Agreeing with @DoItYourself42069 below - All the shielding has to be connected to ground. That's where all the extraneous electronic "noise" gets shunted.
Can some1 answer this question plz:Im installing a 1 meg vol pot,4 wire Bucker ...I bought 26awg single shielded wire.A single shielded wire has the Inner wire,AND the shielding which will be GROUND.thats 2 wires.I want to instal them to my Output jack one Hot,One ground ...yet each has a center & a ground thats 4 wires total for just to lugs on output jack ...HOW do I do this correctly? Anyone?
1 is the pickups. Better wire has better enamel coating
2 is gain which is amplifying unwanted frequencies
3 is nearby appliances
The superior fixes are getting pickups that aren't noisy and this can mean a $10 no name Brand-X just as much as a $100 commercial build. I hear tons of both that are clean or sloppy
The second fix is your gains. Get a custom pedal, nothing commercial. Proper filtering in a gain stage eliminates most noise. Last is appliance isolation
You are suppose to connect all the shielding tape to the ground wire and that would help the guitar cause less noise and copper is a better conducter and cheaper at home depot in the garden section.
@DoItYourself42069 I've just drove and looked at both Home Depot & Lowes stores, they don't carry cooper tape only sheets of copperr....I than walked over to the near by Radio Shack and they also don't sell cooper tape for shielding usage...
I talked to employees whom worked at each store and neither had the copper shielding materail....any other bright ideas where to find it?
@caulinrocker Fender uses alumimun tape as shielding and just about all shielded cables use steel. The object is to make a faraday cage around the signal path and you can make it out of any conductive metal. The reason copper tape, or paint, is used vs aluminum is not due to it's better conductivity, its because you can't solder aluminum tape, it burns and solder won't stick well to aluminum or you get galvanic corrosion . Copper tape is just as malleable as alunimun tape and its solderable.
That aluminum tape from hardware stores is a great cheap way. Thats what I use. However, the glue side of the tape is non-conductive so you must make sure to strategically place the pieces so there's always conductivity and make sure to properly gound the tape in "all" the cavities, or it won't work. If proper cunductivity is achieved and proper grounding, the noise reduction is just as good as the expensive copper tape. Difference is, you can't solder aluminum tape as you do copper.
one more thing. you do have humbuckers, as the other dudes said. but they are not impervious to hum either. virtually no hum will come from a humbucker. excepting one of two things. first is as they said, a simple grounding issue. make sure the bridge is grounded. the other and im betting on this one is the infamous crt. cathode ray tube. quick question...are you playing your guitar in front of your pc monitor? or maybe an older tv? theres no pickup in the world that can buck those signals.
figure it like this. youre making a box of metal to go around your electronics to "catch" all the outside interference from other electrical sources(t.v.s, radio waves, wireless shit, cell phone, amps, speakers, etc...) and then your sheilding takes those unwanted signals and sends them to ground and out of your signal. without the solder to connect all the metal, all the signal being picked up is not being grounded properly. and make sure you run your ground wire to the shielding. hope this
your number one problem is this. after your done sheilding the cavity, you have to tac solder all the pieces that over lap. i have shit tons of experience building and repairing guitars and that was one of the best things i ever learned. got three super quiet strats to prove it.:) you dont need to solder a full line everywhere...just a drop on every overlapping piece. the metal is conductive, however the adhesive backing is not.
your number one problem is this. after your done sheilding the cavity, you have to tac solder all the pieces that over lap. i have shit tons of experience building and repairing guitars and that was one of the best things i ever learned. got three super quiet strats to prove it.:) you dont need to solder a full line everywhere...just a drop on every overlapping piece. the metal is conductive, however the adhesive backing is not.
You have to do the hole for the stereo jack as well. And painting helps to. Somthing maybe grounding out in there. cheack my video on my Jackson that I did. It is so quite now its no even funny.
I'll check for grounding issues. But I suspect as you said that they're just cheap pickups. This guitar is only $99 new. I've since bought another inexpensive guitar that also seems to be noisy with distortion. (An Epiphone SG for $179.) Now I'm going to save my money and get an EMG81/85 combo and wire it in myself.
i have been wiring guitars for the last couple months now and it is quite fun, but you need to set aside a lot of time and not rush through it or you will get frustrated. one thing that just occurred to me... do you know if the wall outlets where you are plugging your amp are well-grounded? (you can check proper grounding w an outlet ground tester) - another thing is, you need some really nice quality guitar cables - the cheap cables are sometimes to blame for unexplained hum
you should not be having the hum due to shielding problems, because that is primarily an issue with single-coil pickups. what you have are humbuckers (or hum-canceling) pickups - these types of pickups have no hum. you either have cheap pickups which you can just replace with some nice dimarzios OR you could have a grounding problem. neither of these issues have anything to do with shielding.
not right there mate tuns of distortion makes humbuckers buzz and wen u stop playing it makes un wanted nois and u have to put ur hand over the string to stop it
I heard that you have to ground the shielding for it to actually work.
snowaterider 4 days ago
its the same
tyson1ize 1 month ago
is it possible to use aluminum instead? (please excuse my noobish question)
Zero10814 2 months ago
@Zero10814 Yes :)
EGIL94 2 weeks ago
Agreeing with @DoItYourself42069 below - All the shielding has to be connected to ground. That's where all the extraneous electronic "noise" gets shunted.
dytakeda 3 months ago
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Can some1 answer this question plz:Im installing a 1 meg vol pot,4 wire Bucker ...I bought 26awg single shielded wire.A single shielded wire has the Inner wire,AND the shielding which will be GROUND.thats 2 wires.I want to instal them to my Output jack one Hot,One ground ...yet each has a center & a ground thats 4 wires total for just to lugs on output jack ...HOW do I do this correctly? Anyone?
97warlock 3 months ago
Noise has 3 essential sources
1 is the pickups. Better wire has better enamel coating
2 is gain which is amplifying unwanted frequencies
3 is nearby appliances
The superior fixes are getting pickups that aren't noisy and this can mean a $10 no name Brand-X just as much as a $100 commercial build. I hear tons of both that are clean or sloppy
The second fix is your gains. Get a custom pedal, nothing commercial. Proper filtering in a gain stage eliminates most noise. Last is appliance isolation
JonDeth 6 months ago
noise suppressor.
ghostinthesnow11 9 months ago
You are suppose to connect all the shielding tape to the ground wire and that would help the guitar cause less noise and copper is a better conducter and cheaper at home depot in the garden section.
DoItYourself42069 11 months ago
@DoItYourself42069 I've just drove and looked at both Home Depot & Lowes stores, they don't carry cooper tape only sheets of copperr....I than walked over to the near by Radio Shack and they also don't sell cooper tape for shielding usage...
I talked to employees whom worked at each store and neither had the copper shielding materail....any other bright ideas where to find it?
JBL8863 5 months ago
@caulinrocker Fender uses alumimun tape as shielding and just about all shielded cables use steel. The object is to make a faraday cage around the signal path and you can make it out of any conductive metal. The reason copper tape, or paint, is used vs aluminum is not due to it's better conductivity, its because you can't solder aluminum tape, it burns and solder won't stick well to aluminum or you get galvanic corrosion . Copper tape is just as malleable as alunimun tape and its solderable.
zer0dahero 1 year ago
That aluminum tape from hardware stores is a great cheap way. Thats what I use. However, the glue side of the tape is non-conductive so you must make sure to strategically place the pieces so there's always conductivity and make sure to properly gound the tape in "all" the cavities, or it won't work. If proper cunductivity is achieved and proper grounding, the noise reduction is just as good as the expensive copper tape. Difference is, you can't solder aluminum tape as you do copper.
zer0dahero 1 year ago
one more thing. you do have humbuckers, as the other dudes said. but they are not impervious to hum either. virtually no hum will come from a humbucker. excepting one of two things. first is as they said, a simple grounding issue. make sure the bridge is grounded. the other and im betting on this one is the infamous crt. cathode ray tube. quick question...are you playing your guitar in front of your pc monitor? or maybe an older tv? theres no pickup in the world that can buck those signals.
bigtubeocaulk1 1 year ago
helps. ive tried posting the last word of that 3 times now. what the fuck???:)
bigtubeocaulk1 1 year ago
....helps. 500 character limit bullshit! keep rockin!
bigtubeocaulk1 1 year ago
(hope this) helps. who the fuck puts a 500 character limit on this shit anyway? cant a guy ramble a bit? ha! keep rockin!
bigtubeocaulk1 1 year ago
figure it like this. youre making a box of metal to go around your electronics to "catch" all the outside interference from other electrical sources(t.v.s, radio waves, wireless shit, cell phone, amps, speakers, etc...) and then your sheilding takes those unwanted signals and sends them to ground and out of your signal. without the solder to connect all the metal, all the signal being picked up is not being grounded properly. and make sure you run your ground wire to the shielding. hope this
bigtubeocaulk1 1 year ago
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your number one problem is this. after your done sheilding the cavity, you have to tac solder all the pieces that over lap. i have shit tons of experience building and repairing guitars and that was one of the best things i ever learned. got three super quiet strats to prove it.:) you dont need to solder a full line everywhere...just a drop on every overlapping piece. the metal is conductive, however the adhesive backing is not.
bigtubeocaulk1 1 year ago
your number one problem is this. after your done sheilding the cavity, you have to tac solder all the pieces that over lap. i have shit tons of experience building and repairing guitars and that was one of the best things i ever learned. got three super quiet strats to prove it.:) you dont need to solder a full line everywhere...just a drop on every overlapping piece. the metal is conductive, however the adhesive backing is not.
bigtubeocaulk1 1 year ago
ehhh kinda helped
guitarkid6342 2 years ago
Oh and check your cables cheap cables are VERY noisey. Or you just might have a noisy amp. Also in the pup cavitys you
HAVE TO paint them or put so rubber cement down if the back of your pups are metal. Check me out.
brib333 2 years ago
You have to do the hole for the stereo jack as well. And painting helps to. Somthing maybe grounding out in there. cheack my video on my Jackson that I did. It is so quite now its no even funny.
brib333 2 years ago
I'll check for grounding issues. But I suspect as you said that they're just cheap pickups. This guitar is only $99 new. I've since bought another inexpensive guitar that also seems to be noisy with distortion. (An Epiphone SG for $179.) Now I'm going to save my money and get an EMG81/85 combo and wire it in myself.
connolm 2 years ago
i have been wiring guitars for the last couple months now and it is quite fun, but you need to set aside a lot of time and not rush through it or you will get frustrated. one thing that just occurred to me... do you know if the wall outlets where you are plugging your amp are well-grounded? (you can check proper grounding w an outlet ground tester) - another thing is, you need some really nice quality guitar cables - the cheap cables are sometimes to blame for unexplained hum
floydcerati 2 years ago
you should not be having the hum due to shielding problems, because that is primarily an issue with single-coil pickups. what you have are humbuckers (or hum-canceling) pickups - these types of pickups have no hum. you either have cheap pickups which you can just replace with some nice dimarzios OR you could have a grounding problem. neither of these issues have anything to do with shielding.
floydcerati 2 years ago
not right there mate tuns of distortion makes humbuckers buzz and wen u stop playing it makes un wanted nois and u have to put ur hand over the string to stop it
dizzygunner 2 years ago