While I am Pagan, I truly believe that if people spent more time focusing on "who" they are, rather than "what" they are, in reference to religions and/or spiritual belief systems, this world would be so much better off...I personally choose to spend my time practicing my beliefs, rather than trying to prove their authenticity to other people. Blessed Be.
@MRMETHOS1 if u know the truth and u dont present it to others, its selfish, expeshly when u know that ppl will go HELL if they don't follow the command of God and as a Muslim i have to tell non Muslims about Islam at least one which is, translate in english, thers no GOD but ALLAH(GOD) and Muhammed is his servent n messagenger, if we dont, da day of Judgment non believers will say we never heard of u my Lord then ALLAH will look at us n say why did;t u tell them ECT thers much more
@MRMETHOS1 if u know the truth and u dont present it to others, its selfish, expeshly when u know that ppl will go HELL if they don't follow(TRUTH) the command of God, and as a Muslim i have to tell non Muslims about Islam at least one which is, translated in English, thers no GOD but ALLAH(GOD) and Muhammed is his servent (SLAVE)n messenger, if we dont, on da day of Judgement non believers will say we never heard of u my Lord then ALLAH will look at us n say why did;t u tell them about me.
@numani12345 Sorry, I apologize ahead of time, but on the second page of the quran (countiong the opener as the first) it explains (in clear language) that non-believers can't be argued with because God has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing and there is a covering over their eyes, and there is a great punishment for them.
In the opener God is said to be merciful.
Both can't be right and both are on adjacent pages.
In my case, there is no book that teaches my beliefs because my beliefs are my own, personal beliefs. I did read a bunch of other books about other religions, mostly different version of holy scriptures, because I was curious why so many people seem to be unable to live without religion (started reading such books around age 12). I came to the conclusion that all scriptures dictate unfair and cruel things. Still don't have a faith - and now I know why I don't need one. I am FREE.
Great video KT45. I'm not an atheist, I'm a new ager. But I did research my own ideas, since I was raised catholic. . .and had many unanswered questions. But I think your questions are legitimate questions for any belief system. Hell it's great questions to ask for any subject up for debate as well. Great job.
I reject the premise of the video, though I think it would be good for those who lack good critical thinking skills (as well as those who identify w/ a specific religion).
It's like the people that tell you you need to have read Descartes and Plato before you can create your own philosophy. If you're a critical thinker, you should work from the bottom up while vigilantly searching for flaws.
When you've done that, then look for other work to test or elaborate your beliefs.
Other literature has mostly only helped me describe my perspective, not significantly chang it (but it did give food for thought).
Anyway, unless you're an atheist (as I am), I'd think twice about examining your beliefs too closely, because any religion can be poked full of holes. Even bare deism is on shaky ground. So unless you could accept and be happy with atheism/agnosticism (& its social/familial consequences, never mind the uncertainty of damnation)...it's called "faith" for a reason.
Don't be too confortable thinking that atheism has no holes in it. Have you seen the research that Van Lommel has done on near death experiences? It proves that human consciousness is not centered in the brain as origionally thought. And that survival of human consciousness beyond bodily death is possible.
Well as an MRI technician that has worked with many neurologists, I think I have a pretty good understanding of brain trauma. So you don't need to worry about my lack of knowledge on the subject. And I would be interested to hear your convincing evidence for the "opposite." Awaiting your reply. . .
@SuperMerlin100 "When you harm the brain you harm the consciousness."
I'm assuming I'm talking with someone with absolutely no knowledge of neurology(otherwise you would not have said that), but in exactly what way does brain damage "harm" consciousness? Awaiting your reply. . .
@tristenmc Stop playing like you have actually studied neuroscience. If you had, you wouldn't challenge him to explain how consciousness is constructed through mental processes. Sounds like you need to get your ignorant self to a library or a college course and read up on cog sci. You're embarrassing the rest of us.
@jeunimedia Well since they test for neuro processes through fMRI. And since I am a MRI tech, I think I have a pretty good understanding of neuroplasticity, being one of the many subjects that is associated with my profession.
@tristenmc Who is talking about neuroplasticity? This is about the effects of trauma, not how the brain later repairs itself. If you've gotten to the point where consciousness is affected, there's very little left which neuroplasticity will be able to address.
@jeunimedia Well unfortunately you jumped into the conversation and added very little to it. The point I was making was how does brain damage harm consciousness. Certainly it affects it, but in order to determine whether it harms consciousness, you need to have some way to measure it. To date, we have no mechanism for measuring consciousness. In fact, there is no evidence that anyone is in fact conscious. All we have are first person perspectives of BEING conscious.
@jeunimedia In fact we normally determine consciousness by brain wave patterns, such as if a person is in the delta and theta wave level they are generally considered unconscious. Yet in many meditative states people frequent these levels and can converse with people from them, so obviously that's not a very good method for determining consciousness.
Hey, As you know, I will respond via video as soon as I can. But- just a thought on free will here- Don't you think that God allows you to go in whatever direction you choose? If you REALLY want to go away from God, he lets you.
@numani12345 OK my comment has typos but yours has more.
"wat r u trying to say man say it properly wat ever u trying to say"
Depending on which comment you are replying to. God as described in the bible and quran has the power to destroy hell or free the people in it after they have served their time, but does neither. And belonging to the wrong religion can get you sent there, yet he has gone off the radar.
Or if you are replying to my other comment, (see the reply to this one).
4) Yes as well as post on a forum that challenges me every day on my beliefs.
5) No
6) Read Quran and ask question
7) Holy bible, some part of hindu texts, and atheist texts.
8) Nope I grw up xtian.
I'm a muslim by the way. I also applaud you sincerity and it takes guts to make prayers like you did. May Allah guide you to the truth on your spiritual journey.
What this happened again!! I post my answers 3 times now and they still are not showing? Damn you, You Tube. This is getting to be more trouble than it is worth.
Sorry KT45. That said, I can see that your motives are well intentioned, but there is a huge discrepancy I am finding. Critical analysis as you describe it here seems to only exist from a consensual perspective, yet I am sure that you are aware that most people's beliefs are very unique even within highly structured systems. Consensus isn't validity.
I didn't think my questions really had anything to do with consensus. Its not really about seeing how MANY other people agree with your beliefs, but to instead honestly looking at varying ideas other than your own but most importantly learning your own beliefs. Its about always learning.
Great video. I really can't wait to respond. You've chosen some questions that I feel many people are eager to answer, and I think I am eager to answer them honestly. I hope I can contribute well to this discussion in video.
TY. Intelligent. Well-developed. I consider myself pandenominational, so I don't have any one book, but I do try to study and compare religions on a regular basis. Now that I think on it, Comparative Religion is all I do. Sad, huh? It can be a daunting study, but it can be rewarding. Symbology alone is one of the most fascinating sub-branches of comparative religion. Through it, one realizes that everyone is more connected than they're willing to admit.
I actually want to study many religions as well. I want to start collecting religious text. Maybe you could make a vid response and show the different books you study?
In other words, adopt the naturalistic belief system to understand other belief systems. A rather flawed argument. A faith-based, or a spiritual-based belief system is best understood through faith and the spirit. The intellect should only be a tool to strengthen faith and the spirit, not to supplant them.
No my video isn't saying that. Its basically saying read your holy book, analysis arguments against religion and investigate other faith based systems. I'm not telling anyone to take naturalistic beliefs, I'm just telling people to study. Why don't you make a video?
Good questions. I will have to think about them because I don't base my beliefs on a single source of information, nor do I hold anything I believe to be indisputable (skeptic/rationalist.) My beliefs are based on the comparrison of different information and the use of analysis to determine what information is more reliable.
That's a great idea! The theists can talk about book. We can talk about all kinds of bookssssssssss. With lots of s'es. If we had to live in a world where there was only one truly reliable book and every word in it was absolute truth, fuck that, count me OUT!!
While I am Pagan, I truly believe that if people spent more time focusing on "who" they are, rather than "what" they are, in reference to religions and/or spiritual belief systems, this world would be so much better off...I personally choose to spend my time practicing my beliefs, rather than trying to prove their authenticity to other people. Blessed Be.
MRMETHOS1 3 years ago
@MRMETHOS1 if u know the truth and u dont present it to others, its selfish, expeshly when u know that ppl will go HELL if they don't follow the command of God and as a Muslim i have to tell non Muslims about Islam at least one which is, translate in english, thers no GOD but ALLAH(GOD) and Muhammed is his servent n messagenger, if we dont, da day of Judgment non believers will say we never heard of u my Lord then ALLAH will look at us n say why did;t u tell them ECT thers much more
numani12345 1 year ago
@MRMETHOS1 if u know the truth and u dont present it to others, its selfish, expeshly when u know that ppl will go HELL if they don't follow(TRUTH) the command of God, and as a Muslim i have to tell non Muslims about Islam at least one which is, translated in English, thers no GOD but ALLAH(GOD) and Muhammed is his servent (SLAVE)n messenger, if we dont, on da day of Judgement non believers will say we never heard of u my Lord then ALLAH will look at us n say why did;t u tell them about me.
numani12345 1 year ago
@numani12345 Sorry, I apologize ahead of time, but on the second page of the quran (countiong the opener as the first) it explains (in clear language) that non-believers can't be argued with because God has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing and there is a covering over their eyes, and there is a great punishment for them.
In the opener God is said to be merciful.
Both can't be right and both are on adjacent pages.
SuperMerlin100 1 year ago
In my case, there is no book that teaches my beliefs because my beliefs are my own, personal beliefs. I did read a bunch of other books about other religions, mostly different version of holy scriptures, because I was curious why so many people seem to be unable to live without religion (started reading such books around age 12). I came to the conclusion that all scriptures dictate unfair and cruel things. Still don't have a faith - and now I know why I don't need one. I am FREE.
Gomba13 3 years ago
stay clear of this operating thetan 3.
orgasmuses 4 years ago
why?
WhereIsMyZen 4 years ago
Good advice on analyzing a belief system.
Thank you
ladaghini 4 years ago
I love the way you talk !!
headhead9 4 years ago
Great video KT45. I'm not an atheist, I'm a new ager. But I did research my own ideas, since I was raised catholic. . .and had many unanswered questions. But I think your questions are legitimate questions for any belief system. Hell it's great questions to ask for any subject up for debate as well. Great job.
tristenmc 4 years ago
Done...
gospelmaestro 4 years ago
I reject the premise of the video, though I think it would be good for those who lack good critical thinking skills (as well as those who identify w/ a specific religion).
It's like the people that tell you you need to have read Descartes and Plato before you can create your own philosophy. If you're a critical thinker, you should work from the bottom up while vigilantly searching for flaws.
When you've done that, then look for other work to test or elaborate your beliefs.
addendumb 4 years ago
Other literature has mostly only helped me describe my perspective, not significantly chang it (but it did give food for thought).
Anyway, unless you're an atheist (as I am), I'd think twice about examining your beliefs too closely, because any religion can be poked full of holes. Even bare deism is on shaky ground. So unless you could accept and be happy with atheism/agnosticism (& its social/familial consequences, never mind the uncertainty of damnation)...it's called "faith" for a reason.
addendumb 4 years ago
Don't be too confortable thinking that atheism has no holes in it. Have you seen the research that Van Lommel has done on near death experiences? It proves that human consciousness is not centered in the brain as origionally thought. And that survival of human consciousness beyond bodily death is possible.
tristenmc 4 years ago
Some people son't see anything.
SuperMerlin100 2 years ago
@tristenmc Atheism only means lack of believe in gods not afterlifes.
Also people's consciousnesses being impaired by brain trauma is far more convencing evidence for the opposite.
You should always learn the definition of something before you argue it.
SuperMerlin100 1 year ago
@SuperMerlin100
Well as an MRI technician that has worked with many neurologists, I think I have a pretty good understanding of brain trauma. So you don't need to worry about my lack of knowledge on the subject. And I would be interested to hear your convincing evidence for the "opposite." Awaiting your reply. . .
tristenmc 1 year ago
@tristenmc I kind of did. When you harm the brain you harm the consciousness.
On top of this there must be a natural mechanism for the after life inorder for it to work.
Supernatural beings transcend time. This means they are immutable. They can't be effected by anything including their own thoughts.
Signal communications would be easily spotted.
And quantum entanglement between so many particles would be damn near impossible to form or maintain, letalone without being noticed.
SuperMerlin100 1 year ago
@SuperMerlin100 "When you harm the brain you harm the consciousness."
I'm assuming I'm talking with someone with absolutely no knowledge of neurology(otherwise you would not have said that), but in exactly what way does brain damage "harm" consciousness? Awaiting your reply. . .
tristenmc 1 year ago
@tristenmc Stop playing like you have actually studied neuroscience. If you had, you wouldn't challenge him to explain how consciousness is constructed through mental processes. Sounds like you need to get your ignorant self to a library or a college course and read up on cog sci. You're embarrassing the rest of us.
jeunimedia 1 year ago
@jeunimedia Well since they test for neuro processes through fMRI. And since I am a MRI tech, I think I have a pretty good understanding of neuroplasticity, being one of the many subjects that is associated with my profession.
tristenmc 1 year ago
@tristenmc Who is talking about neuroplasticity? This is about the effects of trauma, not how the brain later repairs itself. If you've gotten to the point where consciousness is affected, there's very little left which neuroplasticity will be able to address.
jeunimedia 1 year ago
@jeunimedia Well unfortunately you jumped into the conversation and added very little to it. The point I was making was how does brain damage harm consciousness. Certainly it affects it, but in order to determine whether it harms consciousness, you need to have some way to measure it. To date, we have no mechanism for measuring consciousness. In fact, there is no evidence that anyone is in fact conscious. All we have are first person perspectives of BEING conscious.
tristenmc 1 year ago
@jeunimedia In fact we normally determine consciousness by brain wave patterns, such as if a person is in the delta and theta wave level they are generally considered unconscious. Yet in many meditative states people frequent these levels and can converse with people from them, so obviously that's not a very good method for determining consciousness.
tristenmc 1 year ago
Hey, As you know, I will respond via video as soon as I can. But- just a thought on free will here- Don't you think that God allows you to go in whatever direction you choose? If you REALLY want to go away from God, he lets you.
CadenceDG 4 years ago
But he sends you to hell for choosing the wrong religion just like any loving father would. Ya, right.
SuperMerlin100 2 years ago
@SuperMerlin100 wat r u trying to say man say it properly wat ever u trying to say
numani12345 1 year ago
@numani12345 OK my comment has typos but yours has more.
"wat r u trying to say man say it properly wat ever u trying to say"
Depending on which comment you are replying to. God as described in the bible and quran has the power to destroy hell or free the people in it after they have served their time, but does neither. And belonging to the wrong religion can get you sent there, yet he has gone off the radar.
Or if you are replying to my other comment, (see the reply to this one).
SuperMerlin100 1 year ago
@SuperMerlin100 Not everyone who has a near death experience sees something.
SuperMerlin100 1 year ago
1) Yes
2) Yes several times
3) Yep
4) Yes as well as post on a forum that challenges me every day on my beliefs.
5) No
6) Read Quran and ask question
7) Holy bible, some part of hindu texts, and atheist texts.
8) Nope I grw up xtian.
I'm a muslim by the way. I also applaud you sincerity and it takes guts to make prayers like you did. May Allah guide you to the truth on your spiritual journey.
orenishii28 4 years ago
no matter what u or i say, the truth is the truth, think on that, test God himself and see.
tantricbelle 4 years ago
This video isn't about testing god
KT45 4 years ago
@tantricbelle wat r u trying to say, by testing god ?
numani12345 1 year ago
@numani12345 I'm not sure about tantricbelle, but basically testing God means that you see if a given god is interally consistent.
And if said God is naturalisic, looking for physical signs of weither or not they exist.
SuperMerlin100 1 year ago
ahahaha rhad... haha..
TheRealLadyChaos 4 years ago
Thou Shalt Not Question The Word of God.
Because critical analysis leads to evil, and things like that.
Rhademanthus 4 years ago
Damn You Tube, I answered all these questions last night. So where is my comment with my answers?
mrgionni 4 years ago
I want to hear them. Please post them again, or make a video!
KT45 4 years ago
What this happened again!! I post my answers 3 times now and they still are not showing? Damn you, You Tube. This is getting to be more trouble than it is worth.
mrgionni 4 years ago
From mrgionni by request
no
no
no
yes, various religious books and texts
no
Don't believe everything you read or hear
Bible, various versions/translations, and a small amount of the Book of Mormon.
Yes if you call growing up without religious beliefs a belief system.
KT45 4 years ago
After watching all I can say is that every relious book or text goes against my "beliefs".
mrgionni 4 years ago
Sorry KT45. That said, I can see that your motives are well intentioned, but there is a huge discrepancy I am finding. Critical analysis as you describe it here seems to only exist from a consensual perspective, yet I am sure that you are aware that most people's beliefs are very unique even within highly structured systems. Consensus isn't validity.
jimmysteve72 4 years ago
I didn't think my questions really had anything to do with consensus. Its not really about seeing how MANY other people agree with your beliefs, but to instead honestly looking at varying ideas other than your own but most importantly learning your own beliefs. Its about always learning.
KT45 4 years ago
Oh this video is also just getting people to give me book recommendations. I really want to learn all beliefs. So yeah, I'm just being greedy :)
KT45 4 years ago
Great video. I really can't wait to respond. You've chosen some questions that I feel many people are eager to answer, and I think I am eager to answer them honestly. I hope I can contribute well to this discussion in video.
HopefullyUnexpected 4 years ago
I look forward to it :)
KT45 4 years ago
TY. Intelligent. Well-developed. I consider myself pandenominational, so I don't have any one book, but I do try to study and compare religions on a regular basis. Now that I think on it, Comparative Religion is all I do. Sad, huh? It can be a daunting study, but it can be rewarding. Symbology alone is one of the most fascinating sub-branches of comparative religion. Through it, one realizes that everyone is more connected than they're willing to admit.
vundertowv 4 years ago
I actually want to study many religions as well. I want to start collecting religious text. Maybe you could make a vid response and show the different books you study?
KT45 4 years ago
What an intelligently posed challenge. Very good and pertinent questions for Believers / Followers.
RjThisper 4 years ago
A good set of questions, hopefully some people will make some responses. :) Those set of questions could start some meaningful conversations.
keithguh 4 years ago
In other words, adopt the naturalistic belief system to understand other belief systems. A rather flawed argument. A faith-based, or a spiritual-based belief system is best understood through faith and the spirit. The intellect should only be a tool to strengthen faith and the spirit, not to supplant them.
ypsineil 4 years ago
No my video isn't saying that. Its basically saying read your holy book, analysis arguments against religion and investigate other faith based systems. I'm not telling anyone to take naturalistic beliefs, I'm just telling people to study. Why don't you make a video?
KT45 4 years ago
A fine bit of insight, and I thank you for expressing it.
jimmysteve72 4 years ago
good show!
gospelmaestro 4 years ago
Good questions. I will have to think about them because I don't base my beliefs on a single source of information, nor do I hold anything I believe to be indisputable (skeptic/rationalist.) My beliefs are based on the comparrison of different information and the use of analysis to determine what information is more reliable.
Godlesspanther 4 years ago
I would actually love to get a video from you explaining this. Also you can show us a bunch of books that you can recommend for others to read!
KT45 4 years ago
That's a great idea! The theists can talk about book. We can talk about all kinds of bookssssssssss. With lots of s'es. If we had to live in a world where there was only one truly reliable book and every word in it was absolute truth, fuck that, count me OUT!!
Godlesspanther 4 years ago
Man, that's a great series of questions. Excellent analysis.
hanniballecturer 4 years ago
I wanted this video to get people to start giving book recommendations. The other questions are just for my curiosity. Thanks
KT45 4 years ago