@michiyoyoshiku Evolution is one of the most (if not the most) strongly supported theories in science. Archeology shows the bible to be very inaccurate and even fraudulent.
@michiyoyoshiku You really are just a miserable person who can't take criticism aren't you. And just because you can't understand evolution, doesn't mean it isn't true. And please explain how intelligent atheist is an oxymoron. Oh, and please no more insults. Unless you are just trolling and in that case how bout you do something easy, like your mom
That isn't my job. You are the one who believes in it, therefore, YOU have to provide the evidence. Don't fall back on that because I pointed out that you were incorrect.
Yeah, the New Testament also stated that Jesus committed the Seven Deadly Sins in addition to breaking the Jewish ten commandments and being a big hypocrite.
PS, the ten commandments can be summarized into three:
Aw shit! He's on to us guys. How are we supposed to make AOWO now? (Atheists Only World Order) I bet he found out at the end of our lord Charles Darwin's "On the Origin of Species". It was a genius plan, no Christian reads it to the end.
I like the way the one religious guy has all those overlapping voices. It's funny because that's how god-wads roll. They just drown out reason with numbers.
@fekinel Yeah well until they improve the public school system the jesuits are the only chance non rich kids have of geting a good education. Almost every kid that goes to a parochial school graduates and almost every one of those go to college. Catholic schools also teach evolution straight up so for your money there really isnt a better value.
@exor55 Calm down man, we're just trying to fulfill prophecy and give your book some credibility. Being a member of the New World Order isn't so bad either, we get great retail and travel discounts.
Early/sudden death thousands of years ago was not the big deal that is nowadays, these old verses are what you athiests cling to in the 20th century. All I'm hearing are excuses. The really annoying thing is that according to the Bible, you athiests are about to do exactly what you're acting all high and mighty about which is to start chopping Christians heads off because they do not wish to participate in your New World Order.
@exor55 oh? do you agree and believe in all the positive scriptures displayed in the video? how about the negative ones? you said: "these old verses are what you athiests cling to in the 20th century" correct? your god says to believe every word of the bible, rather you feel its good or bad. if you go against or refuse any scripture in the bible, you'r going against god. if you are to stand by what the bible says do it. if you'r going to be a christian, be a christian.
@danieldvs100 Yes, I believe in all the examples that came from the Bible, good or bad. Some unpleasant stuff happened thousands of years ago, but unless we actually lived there, we won't fully understand the context. If it's in the Bible, then it happened for a reason or will happen. Some things are metaphors etc. It is designed to be difficult in order that those with little faith will not take the time to understand it.
@exor55 "according to the Bible, you athiests are about to ... start chopping Christians heads off because they do not wish to participate in your New World Order."
Well, I'm glad we're being sensible about things, then. Thanks for that wonderful display of reasoned common sense.
@NonStampCollector I would really like if you put the actual verses in the video, like you did in "quiz show (bible contradictions)" I think it would be fair to let people look the precise verse up. Anyway, good job!
@exor55 According to the Bible serpents and donkeys can talk. As for chopping heads off, please go to any part of the history of Western civilization and see how Christians have treated non-believers. Better still, see how they treated other Christians who believed a little bit differently.
@AmericanAviator I love when Christians say how the Pilgrims, Puritans, Quakers and others came over here because of religious persecution but NEVER tell you that the persecution was from other Christians.
@itsonlymepeople When a text has to make sense to an audience spanning some 7000 years, creatures will be used to represent other things. Metaphors. You are now at the sharp end of civilization where we have lot's of technology and people believe they are very intelligent which causes you to say this. That is by design because one must have faith, otherwise your faith is in the government. Why are the history books issued by whoever any more believable than the Bible?
@exor55 Whats wrong with having a new world order? Speaking for myself I am almost at the 33rd level as are many atheists, all I have to do is beat that giant Bowser and rescue the princess and I can get my Illuminati pin and scroll.
Then its a big slap up meal of baby meat washed down by the menstrual blood of a virgin, then under our plate is a redeemable code you enter online and get the chance to be antichrist for a day.
Come over to the dark side Luke, John, Mathew and Mark too.
@exor55 Well the old world order had a bunch of bible thumpers like you running around telling us all about the commands of your invisible friend in the clouds - what exactly is bad about a "new world order", so long as it gets rid of all you nut-bags....?
@exor55 No, personally I can't stand a beheading, too messy. My Christians will just be turned into smelly human centipedes if they won't participate in my New World Odor.
@exor55 "annoying thing is that according to the Bible, you athiests are about to do exactly what you're acting all high and mighty about which is to start chopping Christians heads off because they do not wish to participate in your New World Order."
So to summarise: Doing that would bring us down to your level. Thank you, but I politely decline. I'll leave fanatical death stares to the believers. The rest of us can have a nice afternoon tea (and possibly a biscuit).
@exor55 what a crock of shit! i can't speak for all atheist but all i want is for yall coo coo birds to keep your ridiculous beliefs to yourselves. believe what u want but don't get upset because we choose not to oppress ourselves with some self hating "no no" list from an imaginary dictator. u know whats funny; if u had a 16 year old child that talked to an imaginary friend, u would seek help for that child, but for some reason, u can't see how believing in a god is just as crazy?
@exor55 "...start chopping Christians heads off..." There those Christians go again claiming persecution where there is none. New World Order? What in the heck are you talking about?
@exor55 Lol, wut!? "...according to the Bible, you athiests ..." Where in the bibbli is atheism mentioned (give me no interpretations plaese)... new world order?! is that what reason is called by your likes?
@ExtrackterYT Revelation 20:4 - You are wasting time debating semantics my friend. Let's call them Anti-Christians then ok? It's not Christians cutting off Christian heads.
@exor55 Two words: Inquisition and Crusades. Christians have been beheading other people for centuries. You're the bad guys in this movie, DEAL WITH IT.
Hm... This video's argument is that Christians deny the need to look for context in what appears to be the pleasant parts of the bible but believe that parts that seemingly show cruelty or hatred need to have the context proven. Think about it. What context could you get out of the phrase "Love one another." or "Every word of god is flawless, he is a shield to those who take refuge to them." Those are pretty straightfoward, right? What context could you possibly get out of phrases such as those?
of course atheists take everything out of context, for example: after every passage where god orders someone to kill, the very next passage always says "NOT!!!" Such as Luke 19: 27 But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be their king, bring them here and slaughter them in front of me!. Luke 19:28 Not!!! See? you have to read the whole thing.
@gen77c That clears it all up. If you read the bible backwards it tells us to not do these things, but then tells us to do them. Or did I take your comment out of context?
I can make a solid case from their bible, that their Jesus is the one that god called the devil, the dragon, the one to rule your hell that he hath created for those that do not buy into all the insane contradictions.
OR it could just be a fraud written by hebrews mixing others legends and myths into their own self proclaimed superiority complex. NO, you ain't all that hebrew.
There is a tale of Jesus telling "the one without sin cast the first stone" and he stood there not throwing any stones. Get it, he was a sinner, and disobeying his father command to stone the adulteress,,, that boy was a rebel.
@ISamuelII hey man, I forgot about that! You'd think if Jesus thought he was blameless, he'd be chucking rocks. Maybe he was just a nice guy, but then... He WAS the guy who introduced the idea of thought crime and eternal torture for any crime against him, so I don't know if he was really that nice. >_>
@TheSamuraiGoomba As I said, I can make a strong case that the jesus of their bible is the dragon his daddy gave the boot to.
Or it is just a bunch of garbage some hebrewish type made up to trick the gullible minions into thinking they will be given a special place in the lands of desert dwellers. If they had known about Hawaii so long ago, they would not be in Palestine at the moment.
@ISamuelII Think about this: one of the sign of the antichrist's coming is supposed to be WORLD PEACE and prosperity. How awful, clearly Jesus needs to save us from that terrible fate! I mean, nobody was even thanking God for that peace! O_O
... Not to mention if you read Revelations, it's GOD who causes most of the world's suffering and pain. Again, the antichrist brings peace and God brings burning rivers and scorpions. >_>
@TheSamuraiGoomba If the world had peace, who could they kidnap to work their brothels, that an average whore would never do for even extra cash these days.
@lewiss1100 And never actually read the bible? I don't know about you, but to me that sounds like it will never be anything but ignorant. Truth be, nothing has had more success at turning people away from following Christianity than the bible it's self. Many times before, I have forced myself to watch videos to emphasize the importance of things to myself, for example, I forced myself to watch a video where Muslim radicals cut off the heads of living people to emphasize the dangers of radicalism
Obviously, God instilled into the real Christians to read the bible in the right context. He told us to cherry pick the good ones, and explain what appears to be "evil". Actually, we don't even cherry pick when we have the right thorough context of the good and bad parts of the bible.
apologists are slitting their own throats with their excuses
in the light of their excuses, they have chosen which verses whey want to listen to - effectively saying their bible is full of shit. they excuse corrupt priests saying 'oh, that's just people'
christianity's sources ARE priests and the bible. the apologists are showing that both of these are unable to be adhered to since the bible is the religion and priests are the mouthpieces. they are where you learn the religion from
soon the apologists will make one excuse too many which will effectively render the bible useless, the priests as frauds and storytellers, and the religion will be seen only as an idealistic refuge for the feeble-minded and the 'unloved' who needed to create an imaginary friend in a desperate act of revenge.
apologists show me christianity is failing in no small way. they are desperately trying to hold it together, but they fix decaying stone with stickers
my point is that christianity was received from bible passages and the priests who would mouth them off. with the apologists' constant excuses, BOTH are being discredited. christianity no longer rests upon ANY ground whatsoever. the religion has become such a parody in and of itself that the word of a christian is not even worth a penny - in fact, their word is probably a debt!
Brilliant as usual. But to make the conclusion that because the 2- 4,000 year old attempt to describe the nature of God is not only flawed but barbaric and even sometimes evil, we should be atheists or whatever else is not Christian (how about football players) is not logical. Just because they described IT wrong does not mean that there is not an IT out there and that we should not continue the effort to get it right. Democracy did not top the charts at #1 with its first single either.
Yeah, the "out of context" argument is the main fraudulent trick the fundamentalists have for getting out of every hideous thing the Bible says. I knew theologians and theology students and studies with them carefully. In the end, the could not really sustain the "out of context" trick, which is really the most cowardly theological crutch ever.
"millennias ago these people abandoned their belief in the supernatural, now you're asking me to sabotage that achievement. To send them back into the dark ages of superstition, ignorance and fear. NO!" Captain Jean-Luc Picard
"God is love." "You don't care about the context of that?" "Nope, that's fine." Joshua quote comes up 5 seconds later "omg wtf you're taking that out of context you have a selfish agenda omg wtf" lmfao. Fuckin Christians, can't wait till humans evolve past the need to believe in an imaginary God just so their pathetic lives can have "meaning".
Having debated Christians on Facebook, it's scary just how accurate this can be at times. The bit about the she bears being sent, for instance, was explained away as okay because 'youths' doesn't mean children, they were apparently a gang aged up to about 30, rather like the gangs we get on streets today. Quite where they got this or how it justifies them being ripped to shreds for calling Elisha a slaphead is beyond me though. Gotta love apologetics.
@opinionatedprimate The justification is that Elisha "saw them," meaning he saw their essence and what he saw was that their was no good in the gang, they were very bad people and wouldn't do anything good for mankind. According to the text though G-d did not send the bears, Elisha cursed the gang which caused the bears to attack them. G-d thought this unjust and punished Eisha later on for the action.
I was initially offended by this video, but the quotes of the verses are accurate. To my understanding they do mean what they sound like they mean. A few of the verses quoted here do need a small amount of explaining but the meaning in the verse does not change. For the record, I still do not think these verses illegitimate the text. Trust me, these are not the controversial verses.
I challenge every one to read the so called "harsh verse in the quran" and just, not only do you not have to read it in its context, just finish that same sentence, the same sentince because in the same sentence it usally dismiss the punishment (which are the most is 100 slashes for adultory) in that same sentince saying "But if that person were to repent it would be wise and Allah is the most merciful and gracious" their is no such thing as stoning. stoning has to do with culture not religion
@OkamsRazer ....are you deleting my comments, you can delete them from here but know those information are still with me and i know lots and lots more, i'm just getting harmed up, trust me islam has so much knowledge IF ONLY YOU KNEW
maybe it's not a new concept but it has been proven their have been verse in the bible that were deleted and PLEASE TELL me that ezekiel 23 is not pornography...read it before you answer
XD Islam: one of the only religions where the prophet can sleep around and make excuses claiming his god said he could sleep around while married(banging his adopted son's wife). Then later on say to his followers that his god allowed this, but they cant do the same.
@TheDreadedlife the prophet(p.b.u.h) never slept around he had 11 or 13 wives, but then again didn't Abraham(a.s) have like 90 something and Salamon(a.s) like hundreds, and he never did nor think of his adopted wives in any such way
@abashammusba XD actually the god of the bible blackmarks this very kind of act Matthew 5:27-28 Malachi 2:13-16 And actually Allah commanded adopted children be called by their known biological parent. If not known they would be known as servants or brothers in faith. Sura 33 ayat 5
@TheDreadedlife O.K your basiclly telling me that Allah said to call those adopted kids by their real parents name (which is true) O.K SO I said "and the phrophet(..) encoraged muslims to adpot and treat them like as if they were your own, islam encorages adoption" (again i said, Islam encorages muslims to ADOPT and TREAT them like as if they were your own) what does that have to do with what i said, and Allah did say call them by their parents but what does that have to do with what i said
@abashammusba Because to Allah these children werent really your children they were still the bastards from other parents and werent worthy of your name. And you completely ignored my point it seems, well thats ok. I mean we can ignore how this doesnt actually account for how magically Allah wanted Mohammed to take his sons wife. Then commanded that Mohammed tell his followers that they could not do the same, even after Mohammed seduced some of their family.
@TheDreadedlife Sir, where are you getting your "facts(opinions)" from a muslim's last name is the name of his/her father's first name, (that is the concept in islam) that does not have to do with not being worthy enough or not (and their is no such word as worthy among islam or muslim's) and what makes you think these kids are basterds or not( where are you getting your facts from???) as for mohamed(p.b.u.h) he married her and than Allah said not to be intemadated by people....
@abashammusba You can keep reading it how you want thats plain facts good sir. You either kept your fathers name, servant, or brother in faith. Mohammed convinced his adopted son to leave his wife to take her for himself. Nothing about that seems to be morally correct. Why would a person even flirt with their sons daughter in the first place then warn their kid to them them away?
@TheDreadedlife ...Again their is a whole story behind the marriage, and you shouldn't jump in to conclutions..(by the way i'm a logical person, and islam teaches me to think with our brain's because we have them for a reason...and not to except without having proof and verifying it.) for example if the Prophet did something, i wouldn't automatically say that right and i will follow that NO, islam say not to follow the religion blindly..(by the way i will not ignore any question)
@abashammusba So logically would you flirt with your sons wife in a way that is passive aggressively telling him you want her, then tell everyone Allah said its ok?
@TheDreadedlife omg, read the story and then comment, you know nothing of what happened, and he did not flirt with her nor did he tell his son he wanted her. once you actually now the topic meaning this story then, question me one the points, but NOW YOUR JUST RAMBLING ALONG, and the part about Allah you will not understand UNTIL you read the story....don't be scared i heared all it takes is around 10 minutes to read it, IF YOU CAN, but you'll probable speak more rubbish, instead
@abashammusba No, I've read the passage and the story you on the other hand just seemed to be making excuses :) thats fine and dandy, do as you please I guess.
@TheDreadedlife If you read the passage then you would understand under what conditions the marriage took place, why it was done, and i'm not trying to delay anything, we can bring the whole story up, as muslims we follow every-bit of our religion, but lets have this discussion since you read the story, why did he marry her and what were the cercomstansis
@abashammusba :3 It seems now you are playing the "oh you cant understand my text better than me" game. Im sorry dude its right in the passage that he flirted with the mans wife. Then suddenly Allah told him that he should marry her. Its ok if you dont like that idea and you want to think of it differently but thats pretty much what happened. Also Zayd married her after she was forced to basically by Mohammed after he "insisted" she take him. Nothing about this story really seems
@TheDreadedlife To be moral. First forcing someone to marry someone then deciding that you instead want her. This magically all happens after Allah sends a message to Mohammed that nobody should disobey his or Allahs decisions.
@TheDreadedlife the Prophet(saw) does not flirt with people, and no to my understanding he married her and Allah assured him to not conceal it, Also NO, their is no you can look at it this way, i will look at it this way, the information is their, you don't need opinions for it. wheter she was forced or not (miraculously ), the Prophet would never forced anything upon anybody,neither religion, (their is no compulsion in islam)
@abashammusba The fact he miraculously got a vision that he should marry his sons ex right after he convinced him to dump her says nothing to you? If Allah wanted to save his prophet's son;s marriage he easily could of, yet he didnt, and allowed Mohammed to marry the girl he forced to marry his son. The information is there you are just choosing to ignore this one major problem. All of this after getting word from Allah that nobody should resist his wishes. Seems very suspicious
@TheDreadedlife "convinced him to dump her.." buddy to my understanding, when it comes to marriages women have more rights and more to say ( don't be steriotipicle) this whole thing has to do with what she wanted( thats a little info for you, read the actual story) again the prophet(saw) never forced anyone to do anything in his life and as for your miraculously "vision"- it was a verse assuring him to not be distressed about the situation.
@TheDreadedlife Your telling me that in the bible it say looking at someone with lust is the same as commiting adultory(which i already new it says that in the bible) but what does the Prophet(p.b.u.h) married marring his adopted son to someone have to do with that...the prophet never hade lusty ways, he did not care for sex, he was married
@abashammusba The Koran takes its reassurance as a holy book but equating its self to the other holy books thats why some of its teachings come right from the first two. However, its clearly marked in the bible that the person who remarries someone who was just divorced has committed adultery. And also theres the fact he did lust after his sons wife, another lovely "sin"
@TheDreadedlife Your telling me that in the bible it say looking at someone with lust is the same as commiting adultory(which i already new it says that in the bible) but what does the Prophet(p.b.u.h) marring his adopted son to someone, have to do with that...the prophet never hade lusty ways, he did not care for sex, he was married, for goodness saked he has the title messenger of "GOD" or prophet of "GOD"...if he was like that he wouldn't have these titles
@abashammusba Are you seriously trying to say a married man had no desire for sex? Wow haha well I guess The Confederate Tribes, 33:37, 38 Dawood means nothing. And getting engaged to a 6 year old and having sex with her at 9 means nothing. There have been many who claimed they were a messenger from god the Mormons believe their leader was a prophet even though the evidence he had was from mistranslated hieroglyphics.
@TheDreadedlife i said "HE" the prophet was a married man and was a succeful man in marriage...the story of Aisha(r.a) is not a small matter....their marriage was indeed amazing....people always complain about their spouse but never once did she Aisha(r.a) had any problem, nor any distress towards the prophet not a single dislike about the prophet....
@abashammusba Do you really expect a child to be completely ok with marrying an old man? Do you seriously think that? Nothing was amazing about their relationship thats statutory rape on so many levels. Many cultures did have child marriages but the children were pressured into the marriages out of tradition any objections they made were silenced. Please dont try and say that he was honorable in this act, he was marrying a kid.
@TheDreadedlife infact their is a story of Aish(r.a) losing her neckless which she got as a gift from Abubakar(r.a) or his wife and she lost it and it was at a time of war, right in the middle of the war time, she told the Prophet about her losing her neckless and what did he do, HE STOP THE ENTIRE WAR, and put it on hold, and told his army, soldiers, men to look for her neckless.what person would do that..A WHOLE WAR for a neckless??? but his compastion, and kindess spread islam
@abashammusba Do you really think a grown man would stop a war to actually hunt down a necklaces? Wow, she was accused of adultery because of where it was found then Allah magically told him that no shes clean and everything was fine after. Completely compassionate except for the people being beat after just because they connected the dots.
@TheDreadedlife about the verse 33:37-38 please make your question understandable,and i will answer no offince, i really don't get what your asking and i now that verse and it story, so ask me the question and i'll answer
@abashammusba Questioning? Im wondering why you are denying the context of that passage. He flirted heavily with his sons wife and told him to watch out. This is coming from their leader, so he basically convinced his son to leave his wife then scooped her up because Allah for some reason would want him to marry his sons ex wife. Because a perfect being such as Allah would want his follower to do something that cold.
@TheDreadedlife Infact it was the Prophet(b.b.u.h) who married his adopted son's wife to his adopted son....and the phrophet(p.b.u.h) encoraged muslims to adpot and treat them like as if they were your own, islam encorages adoption
@abashammusba When thou saidst to him whom God had blessed and thou hadst favoured, 'Keep thy wife to thyself, and fear God,' and thou wast CONCEALING WITHIN THYSELF what God should reveal, FEARING OTHER MEN; and God has better right for thee to fear Him. So when Zaid had accomplished what he would of her, THEN WE GAVE HER IN MARRIAGE TO THEE,
@TheDreadedlife so that there should not be any fault in the believers, touching the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished what they would of them; and God's commandment must be performed. S. 33:37
@TheDreadedlife "when they have accomplished what they would of them means (after they get married then they do not have to be ashamed and can have sexual activities with the ex-wife of their adopted son's" if one relationship did not work then what stops other who are not related from trying to make it work...its not talking about anything wierd it's saying you can marry the ex-wife your adopted son and are allowed to have interaction, as if it were a normal marriage
@abashammusba You apparently arent seeing the point that he stole his sons wife. He lusted after her then told him basically you better watch your woman. Then allah magically told him it was ok to lust after her and that he should marry his sons ex. This actually back then was seen as a bad thing because once married into the family the daughter in law was seen as your own daughter. He then later on got a message that his followers couldnt do the same.
The numerics we use may have their origins in Arabia (hence Arabic numerals) but thats not to say you somehow "invented" the concept of them, we merely use the characters you chose to use. We could just as easily have used ancient Chinese if Europeans had mor direct contact with them.
Alot attribute the concept of 0 and algebra to Arabic invention when really the Hindu's of India first thought up 0 btw.
"These are two adversaries who have disputed over their Lord. But those who disbelieved will have cut out for them garments of fire. Poured upon their heads will be scalding water. By which is melted that within their bellies and [their] skins. And for [striking] them are maces of iron.
Every time they want to get out of Hellfire from anguish, they will be returned to it, and [it will be said], "Taste the punishment of the Burning Fire!" (Quran 22:19-22)
About the Quran part....some word were added but ingeneral do you think hellfire is a jolly good show ??? of course not its hell fire, HELL FIRE what do you expect will happen to those in hell maybe swim around in chocolate and dance to music....NO
@abashammusba so are you suggesting its a true indication of God as a vindictive Master to make people suffer for a lack of belief in Him even while he Himself has provided no proof beyond the book itself, and that he has allowed murderous rampages in his name. It seems that you are supporting the concept of Hell as if its a good idea that such a place should exist....
Unless you are being sarcastic and I am taking you too literally.
@OkamsRazer actually i was admitting to the fact that hellfire exsists and that people who are admitted well not have a great time but the worst time of their life. Anways we as human were made for the purpose of praiseing and worshiping the all mighty not so we can do drugs, fight, or go to clubs and party out...and your statement that HE has not provided any proofs ??? im sorry buddy but their are over 1,000 verses of scientific facts and evidences....
care to show even one of these supposedly irrefutable "proofs" of yours OTHER than whats in the alleged Holy Book. Show one piece of evidence or proof that can be proven to be of Supernatural origin. If the Divine God was so keen on miracles 1000, 2000 years ago to prove his powers then why not now? Where's Moses with the 10 plagues or is that only reserved for an ancient parable where people can easily be misled into believing natural events are caused by a man with a magic stick.
Why would the almighty Lord of the Universe need US to sit around and praise him, when he had already created the Angelic Hosts long before us in your belief. Weren't the Angels sufficient to sing his glory and praise him on his magnificence?
And bearing in mind that he is allegedly the Creator of the Universe why does he need praise? You would think the Ultimate Being would be above such petty wants or desires to be praised by his Creation. Being a Good human being I think would be more than sufficient in any such being's eyes.
Do YOU think you would want someone sitting there praising YOU for eternity?
Yes? Then you're the one thats got an insecure ego.
@OkamsRazer Whether we praise him or not it does not harm him in any way but it will harm us. we are told in the Quran constantly that god does not need our praises and that it won’t in any way harm him but haram us if we don’t. we were given free-will for a reason, to do as we please but if we live life according to his ways then we will be rewarded with a life beyond our imagination and that this life is nothing compared to the next.
@OkamsRazer but if we don’t live the way he want us to (he says go ahead but be warned), this life could be hard on us and the next would be much worse. In the end the choice is ours but (this life is nothing but the deception of enjoyment) and it up to use like it say’s in the Quran there is no composition in religion. it's only for the better of us.
Frankly? I don't give a flying pigshit for what your God says for his morality is corrupt.
IF he exists? Then I want to go to Hell for I refuse to bow a knee to a Monster.
Since I don't think he does, then I choose to live this one life I am guranteed to be a kind, compassionate human. Of course that also doesnt mean I have to be passive and accept your fellow believers nonsense.
Nothing about Islam is unique, nor is Chrisitianity, Nor is JUdaism, nor is any current religion.
Embryology, astrology, poetry, pros, the numeric numbers 0-9 that we use each and every day of our life’s is by the way and Islamic invention and I think so is “Darwin’s(mohhamedians)” theory of evolution, first compass made by us, first model of the earth made by use. over centuries and centries we had brought alot to the table but it’s in the recent years we have lost our stability but we will bring it back (promise), geometric designs us, medicines basic tools us more and more.etc
I don't endorse murder. But I don't endorse stupidity like that of the commenters here either.
michiyoyoshiku 4 days ago
You idiots say Christianity is mythology but archeologists have proven otherwise.
Nobody has ever proven evolution.
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michiyoyoshiku 5 days ago
@michiyoyoshiku Evolution is one of the most (if not the most) strongly supported theories in science. Archeology shows the bible to be very inaccurate and even fraudulent.
Pinage 4 days ago
@Pinage
Think again dumbass
michiyoyoshiku 4 days ago
@michiyoyoshiku How very mature of you. It is very difficult to educate people who are only interested in their own opinions.
Pinage 4 days ago
@Pinage What I got from that is: "Evolution is ... inaccurate and even fraudulent."
Context!!!!1!
skat1140 2 days ago
@michiyoyoshiku You can't be for real. Why you trollin, son?
zeperx 4 days ago
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@michiyoyoshiku
You idiots say EVOLUTION is mythology but SCIENCE have proven otherwise.
Nobody has ever proven GOD.
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kas00078 4 days ago
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@michiyoyoshiku "Christianity is mythology but archeologists have proven otherwise." No. They haven't.
"Nobody has ever proven evolution" All aspects of evolution have been observed and demonstrated. Deal with it.
ScientificBob 3 days ago
@michiyoyoshiku If it isnt mythology then show me proof of god. Idc about the bible, I'd like to know if there is a god.
Denchanter357 2 days ago
Oxymoron- Intelligent Athiest
michiyoyoshiku 5 days ago
I should start saying Hmmm just like that guy anytime somebody says anything to me.
eyeonwashparish 6 days ago
Jesus rectified all the horrible things in the old testament.
You iditos. Flagged as hateful
michiyoyoshiku 6 days ago
@michiyoyoshiku Then shouldn't the old testament be irrelevant and only the new testament be part of christianity.
shnibly12 6 days ago
@shnibly12
The Laws of the old testament you science fellating simpleton.
michiyoyoshiku 6 days ago
@michiyoyoshiku That means that the old testament is imperfect. Meaning an omniscient being could not have authored it.
shnibly12 6 days ago
@shnibly12
Your mom is inperfect youf uck
michiyoyoshiku 5 days ago
@michiyoyoshiku You really are just a miserable person who can't take criticism aren't you. And just because you can't understand evolution, doesn't mean it isn't true. And please explain how intelligent atheist is an oxymoron. Oh, and please no more insults. Unless you are just trolling and in that case how bout you do something easy, like your mom
shnibly12 5 days ago
@shnibly12
Your mom says hi also I'll kill you
michiyoyoshiku 4 days ago
@michiyoyoshiku You mad bro
shnibly12 4 days ago
Except that.....he didn't. Infact, he did quite the opposite. Stop assuming that just because we're Atheists, we aren't educated in your mythology.
PappeH 5 days ago
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michiyoyoshiku 5 days ago
@PappeH
Prove it;'s myth then
michiyoyoshiku 5 days ago
That isn't my job. You are the one who believes in it, therefore, YOU have to provide the evidence. Don't fall back on that because I pointed out that you were incorrect.
PappeH 5 days ago
228 people identifies with the left dude.
Axxorz 1 week ago
Grotesque
Obsolete
Demon
fekinel 1 week ago
Yeah, the New Testament also stated that Jesus committed the Seven Deadly Sins in addition to breaking the Jewish ten commandments and being a big hypocrite.
PS, the ten commandments can be summarized into three:
1: You must build "God"'s ego
2: You must honour your parents
3: You must be honest
TheRojo387 1 week ago
Aw shit! He's on to us guys. How are we supposed to make AOWO now? (Atheists Only World Order) I bet he found out at the end of our lord Charles Darwin's "On the Origin of Species". It was a genius plan, no Christian reads it to the end.
Slagtheangry 1 week ago
@NonStampCollector Excellent video. I love the part where the trickery is used in citing the Qur'an instead of the Bible. ;-)
zthomasack 1 week ago
This describes my dad and I anytime we have a conversation about the bible.
1bzoe 1 week ago
I like the way the one religious guy has all those overlapping voices. It's funny because that's how god-wads roll. They just drown out reason with numbers.
Snakepliskinist 1 week ago
Hi all ,
if you are in the UK ,
please sign the e-petition to ban faith schools.
Google 'e-petitions , it's easy to find .
Thanks.
fekinel 1 week ago
@fekinel Yeah well until they improve the public school system the jesuits are the only chance non rich kids have of geting a good education. Almost every kid that goes to a parochial school graduates and almost every one of those go to college. Catholic schools also teach evolution straight up so for your money there really isnt a better value.
mucephi1 1 week ago
lol
not25yet 1 week ago
@exor55 Calm down man, we're just trying to fulfill prophecy and give your book some credibility. Being a member of the New World Order isn't so bad either, we get great retail and travel discounts.
NWSurvival81 1 week ago
Amazing
SquareOFortune 1 week ago
I have to say, I like NonStampCollector's vidios better than DarkMatter2525's.
SinnFein4ever 1 week ago
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Early/sudden death thousands of years ago was not the big deal that is nowadays, these old verses are what you athiests cling to in the 20th century. All I'm hearing are excuses. The really annoying thing is that according to the Bible, you athiests are about to do exactly what you're acting all high and mighty about which is to start chopping Christians heads off because they do not wish to participate in your New World Order.
exor55 1 week ago
@exor55 oh? do you agree and believe in all the positive scriptures displayed in the video? how about the negative ones? you said: "these old verses are what you athiests cling to in the 20th century" correct? your god says to believe every word of the bible, rather you feel its good or bad. if you go against or refuse any scripture in the bible, you'r going against god. if you are to stand by what the bible says do it. if you'r going to be a christian, be a christian.
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@danieldvs100 Yes, I believe in all the examples that came from the Bible, good or bad. Some unpleasant stuff happened thousands of years ago, but unless we actually lived there, we won't fully understand the context. If it's in the Bible, then it happened for a reason or will happen. Some things are metaphors etc. It is designed to be difficult in order that those with little faith will not take the time to understand it.
exor55 10 hours ago
@exor55 "according to the Bible, you athiests are about to ... start chopping Christians heads off because they do not wish to participate in your New World Order."
Well, I'm glad we're being sensible about things, then. Thanks for that wonderful display of reasoned common sense.
NonStampCollector 1 week ago 38
@NonStampCollector I would really like if you put the actual verses in the video, like you did in "quiz show (bible contradictions)" I think it would be fair to let people look the precise verse up. Anyway, good job!
alelp 4 days ago
@alelp They're right there in the lower right.
cengime 2 days ago
@exor55 Retarded comment is retarded. Nice job.
dioseolo 1 week ago
@dioseolo Ditto
exor55 11 hours ago
@exor55 So if we do not end up doing that then your bible is inaccurate about us?
SephieRothe 1 week ago
@SephieRothe Correct. It's not my Bible by the way.
exor55 11 hours ago
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exor55 11 hours ago
@exor55 According to the Bible serpents and donkeys can talk. As for chopping heads off, please go to any part of the history of Western civilization and see how Christians have treated non-believers. Better still, see how they treated other Christians who believed a little bit differently.
itsonlymepeople 1 week ago 3
@itsonlymepeople Hell, you don't need to pick up any book of history, just look around today, specifically places like Uganda.
AmericanAviator 1 week ago
@AmericanAviator I love when Christians say how the Pilgrims, Puritans, Quakers and others came over here because of religious persecution but NEVER tell you that the persecution was from other Christians.
itsonlymepeople 1 week ago 2
@itsonlymepeople When a text has to make sense to an audience spanning some 7000 years, creatures will be used to represent other things. Metaphors. You are now at the sharp end of civilization where we have lot's of technology and people believe they are very intelligent which causes you to say this. That is by design because one must have faith, otherwise your faith is in the government. Why are the history books issued by whoever any more believable than the Bible?
exor55 10 hours ago
@exor55 Whats wrong with having a new world order? Speaking for myself I am almost at the 33rd level as are many atheists, all I have to do is beat that giant Bowser and rescue the princess and I can get my Illuminati pin and scroll.
Then its a big slap up meal of baby meat washed down by the menstrual blood of a virgin, then under our plate is a redeemable code you enter online and get the chance to be antichrist for a day.
Come over to the dark side Luke, John, Mathew and Mark too.
123backinyerface 1 week ago 11
@exor55 Well the old world order had a bunch of bible thumpers like you running around telling us all about the commands of your invisible friend in the clouds - what exactly is bad about a "new world order", so long as it gets rid of all you nut-bags....?
1n354a 1 week ago
@exor55 No, personally I can't stand a beheading, too messy. My Christians will just be turned into smelly human centipedes if they won't participate in my New World Odor.
lolraptourz 1 week ago
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100Amida 1 week ago
@exor55 Congratulations. You have single-handedly made me forget about all the troubles of the world and laugh for 3 consecutive minutes.
EpicPhalosophy 1 week ago
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@exor55 "annoying thing is that according to the Bible, you athiests are about to do exactly what you're acting all high and mighty about which is to start chopping Christians heads off because they do not wish to participate in your New World Order."
So to summarise: Doing that would bring us down to your level. Thank you, but I politely decline. I'll leave fanatical death stares to the believers. The rest of us can have a nice afternoon tea (and possibly a biscuit).
FalseBarber 1 week ago
@exor55 DURRRRRRRP
TheLuckySaGe 1 week ago
@exor55 I have space on my mantle- when do i get to decorate my house with yours?
mucephi1 1 week ago
@exor55 what a crock of shit! i can't speak for all atheist but all i want is for yall coo coo birds to keep your ridiculous beliefs to yourselves. believe what u want but don't get upset because we choose not to oppress ourselves with some self hating "no no" list from an imaginary dictator. u know whats funny; if u had a 16 year old child that talked to an imaginary friend, u would seek help for that child, but for some reason, u can't see how believing in a god is just as crazy?
mandel29 1 week ago
@mandel29 I'm just responding to a video ridiculing my beliefs. I'm not upset, the choice is totally yours to make.
exor55 11 hours ago
@exor55 "...start chopping Christians heads off..." There those Christians go again claiming persecution where there is none. New World Order? What in the heck are you talking about?
ManikinROT 1 week ago
@exor55 Lol, wut!? "...according to the Bible, you athiests ..." Where in the bibbli is atheism mentioned (give me no interpretations plaese)... new world order?! is that what reason is called by your likes?
ExtrackterYT 1 week ago
@ExtrackterYT tbh I'm pretty sure atheists are mentioned somewhere in the Bible... Just not directly referred to as atheists.
Pirate44444 1 week ago
@ExtrackterYT Revelation 20:4 - You are wasting time debating semantics my friend. Let's call them Anti-Christians then ok? It's not Christians cutting off Christian heads.
exor55 11 hours ago
@exor55 Two words: Inquisition and Crusades. Christians have been beheading other people for centuries. You're the bad guys in this movie, DEAL WITH IT.
dioseolo 11 hours ago
Hm... This video's argument is that Christians deny the need to look for context in what appears to be the pleasant parts of the bible but believe that parts that seemingly show cruelty or hatred need to have the context proven. Think about it. What context could you get out of the phrase "Love one another." or "Every word of god is flawless, he is a shield to those who take refuge to them." Those are pretty straightfoward, right? What context could you possibly get out of phrases such as those?
yopperpo2 1 week ago
We just need to get this up to about 2 billion views to reach all the brainwashed Christians with it!
antichyrst123 1 week ago 3
>:O "Otherwise.. It's ok" :-)
bluerap04 1 week ago
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of course atheists take everything out of context, for example: after every passage where god orders someone to kill, the very next passage always says "NOT!!!" Such as Luke 19: 27 But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be their king, bring them here and slaughter them in front of me!. Luke 19:28 Not!!! See? you have to read the whole thing.
gen77c 2 weeks ago
@gen77c That clears it all up. If you read the bible backwards it tells us to not do these things, but then tells us to do them. Or did I take your comment out of context?
NoNeedForGod 1 week ago
This is so true!
TheRojo387 2 weeks ago
I can make a solid case from their bible, that their Jesus is the one that god called the devil, the dragon, the one to rule your hell that he hath created for those that do not buy into all the insane contradictions.
OR it could just be a fraud written by hebrews mixing others legends and myths into their own self proclaimed superiority complex. NO, you ain't all that hebrew.
ISamuelII 2 weeks ago
There is a tale of Jesus telling "the one without sin cast the first stone" and he stood there not throwing any stones. Get it, he was a sinner, and disobeying his father command to stone the adulteress,,, that boy was a rebel.
ISamuelII 2 weeks ago
@ISamuelII hey man, I forgot about that! You'd think if Jesus thought he was blameless, he'd be chucking rocks. Maybe he was just a nice guy, but then... He WAS the guy who introduced the idea of thought crime and eternal torture for any crime against him, so I don't know if he was really that nice. >_>
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@TheSamuraiGoomba As I said, I can make a strong case that the jesus of their bible is the dragon his daddy gave the boot to.
Or it is just a bunch of garbage some hebrewish type made up to trick the gullible minions into thinking they will be given a special place in the lands of desert dwellers. If they had known about Hawaii so long ago, they would not be in Palestine at the moment.
ISamuelII 2 weeks ago
@ISamuelII Think about this: one of the sign of the antichrist's coming is supposed to be WORLD PEACE and prosperity. How awful, clearly Jesus needs to save us from that terrible fate! I mean, nobody was even thanking God for that peace! O_O
... Not to mention if you read Revelations, it's GOD who causes most of the world's suffering and pain. Again, the antichrist brings peace and God brings burning rivers and scorpions. >_>
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@TheSamuraiGoomba If the world had peace, who could they kidnap to work their brothels, that an average whore would never do for even extra cash these days.
ISamuelII 1 week ago
@ISamuelII They thrive on terror and black market crime.
ISamuelII 1 week ago
Wisdom & Knowledge Comes from God above, Just as King Solomon asked for wisdom & recieved it from God, so can we.
Also, God gives us the gift of discernment.
We can understand the whole bible, but only with the Holy Spirit living in us & guiding us.
lewiss1100 2 weeks ago
@lewiss1100 did you even watch the video?
OriginalTurgeis 2 weeks ago
@OriginalTurgeis I watched as much as I could stomach of these pack of lies!
As for me & my house we shall Praise the LORD JESUS!!!!!!!
lewiss1100 2 weeks ago
@lewiss1100 Ahhh, so you prefer to remain ignorant. Typical
Kain5th 1 week ago
@lewiss1100 what lies
Spoonkiller15 1 week ago
@lewiss1100 And never actually read the bible? I don't know about you, but to me that sounds like it will never be anything but ignorant. Truth be, nothing has had more success at turning people away from following Christianity than the bible it's self. Many times before, I have forced myself to watch videos to emphasize the importance of things to myself, for example, I forced myself to watch a video where Muslim radicals cut off the heads of living people to emphasize the dangers of radicalism
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@lewiss1100 Did you even watch the video?
OriginalTurgeis 1 week ago
True idiocy below me.
dkthg 2 weeks ago
@dkthg True idiocy above you as well LOL
Vottaro 2 weeks ago
Obviously, God instilled into the real Christians to read the bible in the right context. He told us to cherry pick the good ones, and explain what appears to be "evil". Actually, we don't even cherry pick when we have the right thorough context of the good and bad parts of the bible.
MulattoZygote 2 weeks ago
apologists are slitting their own throats with their excuses
in the light of their excuses, they have chosen which verses whey want to listen to - effectively saying their bible is full of shit. they excuse corrupt priests saying 'oh, that's just people'
christianity's sources ARE priests and the bible. the apologists are showing that both of these are unable to be adhered to since the bible is the religion and priests are the mouthpieces. they are where you learn the religion from
infernalone666 2 weeks ago
@infernalone666
soon the apologists will make one excuse too many which will effectively render the bible useless, the priests as frauds and storytellers, and the religion will be seen only as an idealistic refuge for the feeble-minded and the 'unloved' who needed to create an imaginary friend in a desperate act of revenge.
apologists show me christianity is failing in no small way. they are desperately trying to hold it together, but they fix decaying stone with stickers
infernalone666 2 weeks ago
@infernalone666
my point is that christianity was received from bible passages and the priests who would mouth them off. with the apologists' constant excuses, BOTH are being discredited. christianity no longer rests upon ANY ground whatsoever. the religion has become such a parody in and of itself that the word of a christian is not even worth a penny - in fact, their word is probably a debt!
infernalone666 2 weeks ago 3
Brilliant as usual. But to make the conclusion that because the 2- 4,000 year old attempt to describe the nature of God is not only flawed but barbaric and even sometimes evil, we should be atheists or whatever else is not Christian (how about football players) is not logical. Just because they described IT wrong does not mean that there is not an IT out there and that we should not continue the effort to get it right. Democracy did not top the charts at #1 with its first single either.
TheReasonTroll 2 weeks ago
Yeah, the "out of context" argument is the main fraudulent trick the fundamentalists have for getting out of every hideous thing the Bible says. I knew theologians and theology students and studies with them carefully. In the end, the could not really sustain the "out of context" trick, which is really the most cowardly theological crutch ever.
melvinbrand 2 weeks ago 6
don't you just LOVE double-standards?
infernalone666 3 weeks ago
This is fucking brilliant! xD
InfinityDz 3 weeks ago
I'm kind of disappointed we didn't see this guy's reaction to "good" verses in the Quran.
IoEstasCedonta 3 weeks ago 13
mmmh. My favorite part of all his videos is the "mmmh".
BER2ERKER 3 weeks ago
This is wonderful.
DGneoseeker1 3 weeks ago
"millennias ago these people abandoned their belief in the supernatural, now you're asking me to sabotage that achievement. To send them back into the dark ages of superstition, ignorance and fear. NO!" Captain Jean-Luc Picard
baldurus1 3 weeks ago 9
mm :)
B1aDK 3 weeks ago
hmmmm
Seannyskillz 3 weeks ago
If you look at their heads you cant see their hips, its just yellow
CDPuffer 3 weeks ago
@CDPuffer oh my!
MarsRover24 3 weeks ago
"God is love." "You don't care about the context of that?" "Nope, that's fine." Joshua quote comes up 5 seconds later "omg wtf you're taking that out of context you have a selfish agenda omg wtf" lmfao. Fuckin Christians, can't wait till humans evolve past the need to believe in an imaginary God just so their pathetic lives can have "meaning".
BTUpr0ductii0nz 3 weeks ago 6
Best part, "Mmmm"
n0neCheaper 3 weeks ago 72
Ah, yes special pleading for god... the go to argument of all theists.
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Having debated Christians on Facebook, it's scary just how accurate this can be at times. The bit about the she bears being sent, for instance, was explained away as okay because 'youths' doesn't mean children, they were apparently a gang aged up to about 30, rather like the gangs we get on streets today. Quite where they got this or how it justifies them being ripped to shreds for calling Elisha a slaphead is beyond me though. Gotta love apologetics.
opinionatedprimate 1 month ago
@opinionatedprimate The justification is that Elisha "saw them," meaning he saw their essence and what he saw was that their was no good in the gang, they were very bad people and wouldn't do anything good for mankind. According to the text though G-d did not send the bears, Elisha cursed the gang which caused the bears to attack them. G-d thought this unjust and punished Eisha later on for the action.
Mrsirjr 1 month ago
I was initially offended by this video, but the quotes of the verses are accurate. To my understanding they do mean what they sound like they mean. A few of the verses quoted here do need a small amount of explaining but the meaning in the verse does not change. For the record, I still do not think these verses illegitimate the text. Trust me, these are not the controversial verses.
Mrsirjr 1 month ago
@Mrsirjr yes, i trust every random internet person. lead me thou wisest of saviors
ureatowel15 3 weeks ago
Wait this video is completely OUT OF CONTEXT!!!
ColaPac 1 month ago 82
Thanks for this video. Love it!
dragonruler978 1 month ago
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I challenge every one to read the so called "harsh verse in the quran" and just, not only do you not have to read it in its context, just finish that same sentence, the same sentince because in the same sentence it usally dismiss the punishment (which are the most is 100 slashes for adultory) in that same sentince saying "But if that person were to repent it would be wise and Allah is the most merciful and gracious" their is no such thing as stoning. stoning has to do with culture not religion
abashammusba 1 month ago
@OkamsRazer ....are you deleting my comments, you can delete them from here but know those information are still with me and i know lots and lots more, i'm just getting harmed up, trust me islam has so much knowledge IF ONLY YOU KNEW
abashammusba 1 month ago
maybe it's not a new concept but it has been proven their have been verse in the bible that were deleted and PLEASE TELL me that ezekiel 23 is not pornography...read it before you answer
abashammusba 1 month ago
damn, now I watched this video out of context! What was it all about again? ;-)
Strange that only atheists can quote from the bible out of context never theists...
AllKilian 1 month ago
People do this to me on topics other than the bible :I
unassumption 1 month ago
XD Islam: one of the only religions where the prophet can sleep around and make excuses claiming his god said he could sleep around while married(banging his adopted son's wife). Then later on say to his followers that his god allowed this, but they cant do the same.
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@TheDreadedlife the prophet(p.b.u.h) never slept around he had 11 or 13 wives, but then again didn't Abraham(a.s) have like 90 something and Salamon(a.s) like hundreds, and he never did nor think of his adopted wives in any such way
abashammusba 1 month ago
@abashammusba XD actually the god of the bible blackmarks this very kind of act Matthew 5:27-28 Malachi 2:13-16 And actually Allah commanded adopted children be called by their known biological parent. If not known they would be known as servants or brothers in faith. Sura 33 ayat 5
TheDreadedlife 1 month ago
@TheDreadedlife O.K your basiclly telling me that Allah said to call those adopted kids by their real parents name (which is true) O.K SO I said "and the phrophet(..) encoraged muslims to adpot and treat them like as if they were your own, islam encorages adoption" (again i said, Islam encorages muslims to ADOPT and TREAT them like as if they were your own) what does that have to do with what i said, and Allah did say call them by their parents but what does that have to do with what i said
abashammusba 1 month ago
@abashammusba Because to Allah these children werent really your children they were still the bastards from other parents and werent worthy of your name. And you completely ignored my point it seems, well thats ok. I mean we can ignore how this doesnt actually account for how magically Allah wanted Mohammed to take his sons wife. Then commanded that Mohammed tell his followers that they could not do the same, even after Mohammed seduced some of their family.
TheDreadedlife 1 month ago
@TheDreadedlife Sir, where are you getting your "facts(opinions)" from a muslim's last name is the name of his/her father's first name, (that is the concept in islam) that does not have to do with not being worthy enough or not (and their is no such word as worthy among islam or muslim's) and what makes you think these kids are basterds or not( where are you getting your facts from???) as for mohamed(p.b.u.h) he married her and than Allah said not to be intemadated by people....
abashammusba 1 month ago
@abashammusba You can keep reading it how you want thats plain facts good sir. You either kept your fathers name, servant, or brother in faith. Mohammed convinced his adopted son to leave his wife to take her for himself. Nothing about that seems to be morally correct. Why would a person even flirt with their sons daughter in the first place then warn their kid to them them away?
TheDreadedlife 1 month ago
@TheDreadedlife ...Again their is a whole story behind the marriage, and you shouldn't jump in to conclutions..(by the way i'm a logical person, and islam teaches me to think with our brain's because we have them for a reason...and not to except without having proof and verifying it.) for example if the Prophet did something, i wouldn't automatically say that right and i will follow that NO, islam say not to follow the religion blindly..(by the way i will not ignore any question)
abashammusba 1 month ago
@abashammusba So logically would you flirt with your sons wife in a way that is passive aggressively telling him you want her, then tell everyone Allah said its ok?
TheDreadedlife 1 month ago
@TheDreadedlife omg, read the story and then comment, you know nothing of what happened, and he did not flirt with her nor did he tell his son he wanted her. once you actually now the topic meaning this story then, question me one the points, but NOW YOUR JUST RAMBLING ALONG, and the part about Allah you will not understand UNTIL you read the story....don't be scared i heared all it takes is around 10 minutes to read it, IF YOU CAN, but you'll probable speak more rubbish, instead
abashammusba 1 month ago
@abashammusba No, I've read the passage and the story you on the other hand just seemed to be making excuses :) thats fine and dandy, do as you please I guess.
TheDreadedlife 1 month ago
@TheDreadedlife If you read the passage then you would understand under what conditions the marriage took place, why it was done, and i'm not trying to delay anything, we can bring the whole story up, as muslims we follow every-bit of our religion, but lets have this discussion since you read the story, why did he marry her and what were the cercomstansis
abashammusba 1 month ago
@abashammusba :3 It seems now you are playing the "oh you cant understand my text better than me" game. Im sorry dude its right in the passage that he flirted with the mans wife. Then suddenly Allah told him that he should marry her. Its ok if you dont like that idea and you want to think of it differently but thats pretty much what happened. Also Zayd married her after she was forced to basically by Mohammed after he "insisted" she take him. Nothing about this story really seems
TheDreadedlife 1 month ago
@TheDreadedlife To be moral. First forcing someone to marry someone then deciding that you instead want her. This magically all happens after Allah sends a message to Mohammed that nobody should disobey his or Allahs decisions.
TheDreadedlife 1 month ago
@TheDreadedlife the Prophet(saw) does not flirt with people, and no to my understanding he married her and Allah assured him to not conceal it, Also NO, their is no you can look at it this way, i will look at it this way, the information is their, you don't need opinions for it. wheter she was forced or not (miraculously ), the Prophet would never forced anything upon anybody,neither religion, (their is no compulsion in islam)
abashammusba 1 month ago
@abashammusba The fact he miraculously got a vision that he should marry his sons ex right after he convinced him to dump her says nothing to you? If Allah wanted to save his prophet's son;s marriage he easily could of, yet he didnt, and allowed Mohammed to marry the girl he forced to marry his son. The information is there you are just choosing to ignore this one major problem. All of this after getting word from Allah that nobody should resist his wishes. Seems very suspicious
TheDreadedlife 1 month ago
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@TheDreadedlife "convinced him to dump her.." buddy to my understanding, when it comes to marriages women have more rights and more to say ( don't be steriotipicle) this whole thing has to do with what she wanted( thats a little info for you, read the actual story) again the prophet(saw) never forced anyone to do anything in his life and as for your miraculously "vision"- it was a verse assuring him to not be distressed about the situation.
abashammusba 1 month ago
@TheDreadedlife Your telling me that in the bible it say looking at someone with lust is the same as commiting adultory(which i already new it says that in the bible) but what does the Prophet(p.b.u.h) married marring his adopted son to someone have to do with that...the prophet never hade lusty ways, he did not care for sex, he was married
abashammusba 1 month ago
@abashammusba The Koran takes its reassurance as a holy book but equating its self to the other holy books thats why some of its teachings come right from the first two. However, its clearly marked in the bible that the person who remarries someone who was just divorced has committed adultery. And also theres the fact he did lust after his sons wife, another lovely "sin"
TheDreadedlife 1 month ago
@TheDreadedlife Your telling me that in the bible it say looking at someone with lust is the same as commiting adultory(which i already new it says that in the bible) but what does the Prophet(p.b.u.h) marring his adopted son to someone, have to do with that...the prophet never hade lusty ways, he did not care for sex, he was married, for goodness saked he has the title messenger of "GOD" or prophet of "GOD"...if he was like that he wouldn't have these titles
abashammusba 1 month ago
@abashammusba Are you seriously trying to say a married man had no desire for sex? Wow haha well I guess The Confederate Tribes, 33:37, 38 Dawood means nothing. And getting engaged to a 6 year old and having sex with her at 9 means nothing. There have been many who claimed they were a messenger from god the Mormons believe their leader was a prophet even though the evidence he had was from mistranslated hieroglyphics.
TheDreadedlife 1 month ago
@TheDreadedlife i said "HE" the prophet was a married man and was a succeful man in marriage...the story of Aisha(r.a) is not a small matter....their marriage was indeed amazing....people always complain about their spouse but never once did she Aisha(r.a) had any problem, nor any distress towards the prophet not a single dislike about the prophet....
abashammusba 1 month ago
@abashammusba Do you really expect a child to be completely ok with marrying an old man? Do you seriously think that? Nothing was amazing about their relationship thats statutory rape on so many levels. Many cultures did have child marriages but the children were pressured into the marriages out of tradition any objections they made were silenced. Please dont try and say that he was honorable in this act, he was marrying a kid.
TheDreadedlife 1 month ago
@TheDreadedlife infact their is a story of Aish(r.a) losing her neckless which she got as a gift from Abubakar(r.a) or his wife and she lost it and it was at a time of war, right in the middle of the war time, she told the Prophet about her losing her neckless and what did he do, HE STOP THE ENTIRE WAR, and put it on hold, and told his army, soldiers, men to look for her neckless.what person would do that..A WHOLE WAR for a neckless??? but his compastion, and kindess spread islam
abashammusba 1 month ago
@abashammusba Do you really think a grown man would stop a war to actually hunt down a necklaces? Wow, she was accused of adultery because of where it was found then Allah magically told him that no shes clean and everything was fine after. Completely compassionate except for the people being beat after just because they connected the dots.
TheDreadedlife 1 month ago
@TheDreadedlife about the verse 33:37-38 please make your question understandable,and i will answer no offince, i really don't get what your asking and i now that verse and it story, so ask me the question and i'll answer
abashammusba 1 month ago
@abashammusba Questioning? Im wondering why you are denying the context of that passage. He flirted heavily with his sons wife and told him to watch out. This is coming from their leader, so he basically convinced his son to leave his wife then scooped her up because Allah for some reason would want him to marry his sons ex wife. Because a perfect being such as Allah would want his follower to do something that cold.
TheDreadedlife 1 month ago
@TheDreadedlife Infact it was the Prophet(b.b.u.h) who married his adopted son's wife to his adopted son....and the phrophet(p.b.u.h) encoraged muslims to adpot and treat them like as if they were your own, islam encorages adoption
abashammusba 1 month ago
@abashammusba When thou saidst to him whom God had blessed and thou hadst favoured, 'Keep thy wife to thyself, and fear God,' and thou wast CONCEALING WITHIN THYSELF what God should reveal, FEARING OTHER MEN; and God has better right for thee to fear Him. So when Zaid had accomplished what he would of her, THEN WE GAVE HER IN MARRIAGE TO THEE,
TheDreadedlife 1 month ago
@TheDreadedlife so that there should not be any fault in the believers, touching the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished what they would of them; and God's commandment must be performed. S. 33:37
TheDreadedlife 1 month ago
@TheDreadedlife "when they have accomplished what they would of them means (after they get married then they do not have to be ashamed and can have sexual activities with the ex-wife of their adopted son's" if one relationship did not work then what stops other who are not related from trying to make it work...its not talking about anything wierd it's saying you can marry the ex-wife your adopted son and are allowed to have interaction, as if it were a normal marriage
abashammusba 1 month ago
@abashammusba You apparently arent seeing the point that he stole his sons wife. He lusted after her then told him basically you better watch your woman. Then allah magically told him it was ok to lust after her and that he should marry his sons ex. This actually back then was seen as a bad thing because once married into the family the daughter in law was seen as your own daughter. He then later on got a message that his followers couldnt do the same.
TheDreadedlife 1 month ago
Algebra....is also a muslim invention hence the name...."Al-Gebra" so is "Al-Chem"
abashammusba 1 month ago
The numerics we use may have their origins in Arabia (hence Arabic numerals) but thats not to say you somehow "invented" the concept of them, we merely use the characters you chose to use. We could just as easily have used ancient Chinese if Europeans had mor direct contact with them.
Alot attribute the concept of 0 and algebra to Arabic invention when really the Hindu's of India first thought up 0 btw.
OkamsRazer 1 month ago
The Quran -
"These are two adversaries who have disputed over their Lord. But those who disbelieved will have cut out for them garments of fire. Poured upon their heads will be scalding water. By which is melted that within their bellies and [their] skins. And for [striking] them are maces of iron.
Every time they want to get out of Hellfire from anguish, they will be returned to it, and [it will be said], "Taste the punishment of the Burning Fire!" (Quran 22:19-22)
abashammusba 1 month ago
About the Quran part....some word were added but ingeneral do you think hellfire is a jolly good show ??? of course not its hell fire, HELL FIRE what do you expect will happen to those in hell maybe swim around in chocolate and dance to music....NO
abashammusba 1 month ago
@abashammusba so are you suggesting its a true indication of God as a vindictive Master to make people suffer for a lack of belief in Him even while he Himself has provided no proof beyond the book itself, and that he has allowed murderous rampages in his name. It seems that you are supporting the concept of Hell as if its a good idea that such a place should exist....
Unless you are being sarcastic and I am taking you too literally.
OkamsRazer 1 month ago
@OkamsRazer actually i was admitting to the fact that hellfire exsists and that people who are admitted well not have a great time but the worst time of their life. Anways we as human were made for the purpose of praiseing and worshiping the all mighty not so we can do drugs, fight, or go to clubs and party out...and your statement that HE has not provided any proofs ??? im sorry buddy but their are over 1,000 verses of scientific facts and evidences....
abashammusba 1 month ago
care to show even one of these supposedly irrefutable "proofs" of yours OTHER than whats in the alleged Holy Book. Show one piece of evidence or proof that can be proven to be of Supernatural origin. If the Divine God was so keen on miracles 1000, 2000 years ago to prove his powers then why not now? Where's Moses with the 10 plagues or is that only reserved for an ancient parable where people can easily be misled into believing natural events are caused by a man with a magic stick.
OkamsRazer 1 month ago
Why would the almighty Lord of the Universe need US to sit around and praise him, when he had already created the Angelic Hosts long before us in your belief. Weren't the Angels sufficient to sing his glory and praise him on his magnificence?
OkamsRazer 1 month ago
And bearing in mind that he is allegedly the Creator of the Universe why does he need praise? You would think the Ultimate Being would be above such petty wants or desires to be praised by his Creation. Being a Good human being I think would be more than sufficient in any such being's eyes.
Do YOU think you would want someone sitting there praising YOU for eternity?
Yes? Then you're the one thats got an insecure ego.
No? Then you're lying (see previous).
OkamsRazer 1 month ago
@OkamsRazer Whether we praise him or not it does not harm him in any way but it will harm us. we are told in the Quran constantly that god does not need our praises and that it won’t in any way harm him but haram us if we don’t. we were given free-will for a reason, to do as we please but if we live life according to his ways then we will be rewarded with a life beyond our imagination and that this life is nothing compared to the next.
abashammusba 1 month ago
@OkamsRazer but if we don’t live the way he want us to (he says go ahead but be warned), this life could be hard on us and the next would be much worse. In the end the choice is ours but (this life is nothing but the deception of enjoyment) and it up to use like it say’s in the Quran there is no composition in religion. it's only for the better of us.
abashammusba 1 month ago
Frankly? I don't give a flying pigshit for what your God says for his morality is corrupt.
IF he exists? Then I want to go to Hell for I refuse to bow a knee to a Monster.
Since I don't think he does, then I choose to live this one life I am guranteed to be a kind, compassionate human. Of course that also doesnt mean I have to be passive and accept your fellow believers nonsense.
Nothing about Islam is unique, nor is Chrisitianity, Nor is JUdaism, nor is any current religion.
OkamsRazer 1 month ago
Embryology, astrology, poetry, pros, the numeric numbers 0-9 that we use each and every day of our life’s is by the way and Islamic invention and I think so is “Darwin’s(mohhamedians)” theory of evolution, first compass made by us, first model of the earth made by use. over centuries and centries we had brought alot to the table but it’s in the recent years we have lost our stability but we will bring it back (promise), geometric designs us, medicines basic tools us more and more.etc
abashammusba 1 month ago