@jemp31 I know what you mean. I feel like his has more Liszt-ian weight to it. It just feels more solid and meaty. But I love Argerich's for the same reason I love all of her other interpretations; endlessly inventive, exciting, and almost always ingeniously executed. I'd like a recording of both.
As always, Argerich made it seem so easy... Another truly electrifying performance. If I had been born a couple of decades before and been rich, I would have traveled all over the world following her concert schedule. At least I have YouTube and the generosity of those willing to share with me these digital gems. Thanks for posting.
God, I love this...exactly what it should be...apparently, she has the same idea of the piece that I had when I played it...the last movement is RELENTLESS. It should just build and build until the audience is about to lose it's mind...it should sound like the pianist is possessed. She nailed it.
She does not play fast, just what is should be. That night was unforgettable thanks to Martha. The orchestra is the worst in the world, if she was waiting for them the performance was a disaster. Instinctively she continued her way, she could not expect anything from those mediocre musicians.
This orchestra was formed for this concert and was composed by musicians of the Philharmonic Orchestra of Buenos Aires and National Symphony Orchestra
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I've recently learned this piece. Liszt marked this movement "marziale". In my opinion it loses the stately feel of a march if begin at too quick of a tempo, as is done here, not to mention that the continual accelerando would force ridiculous tempi that obscure many of the colors that Liszt is using. I do trust that Argerich is, in fact, playing all the notes, but at times near the end I can only hear about half of them clearly, which is as much as can be done at this tempo.
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By itself, this concerto is already an awesome masterpiece conceived by a genius. But Martha brings it up to a still higher dimension with incredible brio. Everything is there, power, emotion, sensitivity. The very best rendering of that concerto I have ever heard. Martha, you're simply the best.
mostly yes. but he does have his moments of extreme emotion. not in this movement though. this is mostly about virtuosity imo so saying this here is meaningless really.
Well, there is no doubt he was a genius. I love Liszt with all my heart and I have recordings of almost all his piano works but this concerto really is a lot of virtuosity and catchy tunes. This concerto is one of my favorites but you simply can't equate Liszt with being a terribly emotional person. Even pieces like the transcriptions Widmung (which Schumann disliked) and Liebestraum, although beautiful, are largely so effective because of crashing chords. I love him to death but he's no Faure.
Liszt was too brilliant to write something so "ordinary", grotesque and rambling. The first movement is so short and quite odd, then section after sections, there are many moods and too many elements all mixed together... (think of the perfection of Sonata, a "severe" work). Both Liszt Concertos must be seen simply as a parody of all typical Concertos examples and standards, ingenious caricatures, like Mozart's "Musical Joke"...
Well, Liszt's work often captured Romantic music perfectly. While this may be of little innovation and nuances, I find the melodies lovely and stirring. It's not really expressive, I think. It's just music for music's sake. :)
What some people fail to realize is that virtuosity itself evokes certain values, like vitality, energy, and grace. There can be plenty of emotions involved. (Of course, there have to be nontrivial underlying themes for it to mean anything.)
I'm not accusing you, but I wanted to say this. The people who denigrate virtuosity remind me of the people who deem that any building taller than 3 stories is just "vanity on part of the architect." These are the people I hate.
Naturally virtuosity does evoke these values but is excitement really an emotion? Perhaps I didn't explain myself clearly but this piece, to me, does not seem like "serious music" but more like a crowd-pleaser. There's nothing wrong with that but it really isn't an emotional piece because it focuses so much on technicality and you don't really need to spend hours thinking about where you'll play something rubato or where you'll dwell on a certain chord sentimentally.
Eloquently stated. Moritz Rosenthal said [paraphrase] 'I've found that those that insist that technique is unimportant to music-making simply lack it themselves.'
This was a landmark in Buenos Aires musical life. This was captured on June 1986 live from the Teatro Colón and broadcasted through the official tv network to the whole country. Martha had not played in BA for 14 years and came only to play one single evening at which she performed Beethoven´s second, Liszt first and Prokofiev´s third. The conductor was (polish born)the late Maestro Simón Blech. A truly marathonic evening!
another recommended albums to pure appreciators : Arnaldo Cohen's recently released one including Totentanz. Jorge Bolet-Robert Irving partnership in 1960 on Everest (or Bescol) label would be a pure joy. :-)
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is this really great? i am afraid i don't think so. her tempi, rubato, excessive bravura is too radical to my ears. and her interpretation is straitforward. i agree to some comments below about Richter. His version is phenomenal. Lazar Berman's on Lazar Berman Edition(Brillian Classics, NOT DG version) and A.Watts-A.Litton partnership on Telrac is excellent too.
to answer your question - yes this really great. The triangle man's interpretation was a little straightforward and he uses too much rhubarb but Martha stands alone...
different ppl have ways in putting their styles out ... i think she has focused a bit too much on her "presto" playing, but i think her style in the previous movements are great, and her playing throughout the concerto is of exemplary standard :)
Of course she's a great player, but has anyone heard Richter's recording of this concerto with Kondrashin? He plays with insight such as I've never heard in anyone else's interpretation. I doubt one can find Richter's performance on video, but anyway the CD is amazing.
very true. But I have to say, the best recording I've heard is Krystian Zimerman's. He's absolutely perfect for this concerto. Richter's recording of the Second is also mindblowing, definitely the most intriguing recording i've heard of that concerto.
tendrian que comparar solo las versiones de estudio....Argerich grabo este concierto con Abbado y en hace unos año lo volvio a grabar con Dutoit, ambas versiones son perfectas y muy superiores a las de Richter y Zimermann
Holy mother of God, Argerich would absolutely destroy any pianist currently out there. That was extraordinary. Please anyone, if Argerich has any more intense recordings, let me know.
Yes, we can expect the end to applaud. But when it is playing the best pianist in the world, our compatriot, we do not want to wait until the end of the piece. Ana prikrasna, krasavitsa!!!
I can't think of a better version of this concerto... I'm surprised when people don't recognize her as the greatest pianist of our time... incredible...
The only one that culd hve played thispiece any better is FRANZ LISZT himself. Give this woman 100000 stars, then again; why should anyone be surprise? This is MARTHA ARGERICH. Have have only twenty different version of this piece, the only one who even come close is the old Steven Douglas version. She makes the rest sound like beginners.
"then again; why should anyone be surprise? This is MARTHA ARGERICH."
Lol, that's the best way I've heard it put so far.
This performance has all the bravura needed for Liszt, but still is musical, breathless, and exciting. My favorite passage is at 3:00. Absolutely thrilling. Then, when you think she's at her limit, she brandishes her octaves (3:06), and even more miraculous is when she actually SLOWS DOWN her final diverging chromatic octaves (3:31) so the orchestra can keep up.
This is SO fabulous! I just can't imagine anyone playing that better. Does anyone know when this was done? Venue? Conductor and orchestra? Thanks so much for posting.
i LOVE this performance! usually when you play with an orchestra, you're trying to catch up to the orchestra and not fall behind...but towards the end of this movement, it's the other way around. haha
a masterpiece from a master... The best sound that my ears could ever hear!!!
horozcorc 1 month ago
Increíble la parte de 00:50 y malísima la parte de 3:46...
grinschpun 2 months ago
all four videos are magnificent. I love Franz Liszt !
guava96 7 months ago
Argerich has always played in the most EFFORTLESS way possible. Just look at how she executes those fast octaves.
jjg7 8 months ago
absolutely fantastic
ueblondon 9 months ago
OH MY GOD!!! I Love Martha!!!! Kyaaaaaa!!!
ochaken0katsu 10 months ago
Overall, I think Richter's version is better, but Argerich's fourth movement makes me wanna explode from excitement. Beyond extraordinary!
jemp31 1 year ago
@jemp31 I know what you mean. I feel like his has more Liszt-ian weight to it. It just feels more solid and meaty. But I love Argerich's for the same reason I love all of her other interpretations; endlessly inventive, exciting, and almost always ingeniously executed. I'd like a recording of both.
mmoynan 1 year ago
As always, Argerich made it seem so easy... Another truly electrifying performance. If I had been born a couple of decades before and been rich, I would have traveled all over the world following her concert schedule. At least I have YouTube and the generosity of those willing to share with me these digital gems. Thanks for posting.
chu10rro 1 year ago 4
omfg <3
SuckerSove 1 year ago
God, I love this...exactly what it should be...apparently, she has the same idea of the piece that I had when I played it...the last movement is RELENTLESS. It should just build and build until the audience is about to lose it's mind...it should sound like the pianist is possessed. She nailed it.
brolobear 1 year ago 5
@brolobear post yours i would love to hear it
afertyus1000 1 year ago
She does not play fast, just what is should be. That night was unforgettable thanks to Martha. The orchestra is the worst in the world, if she was waiting for them the performance was a disaster. Instinctively she continued her way, she could not expect anything from those mediocre musicians.
federicoxxl 2 years ago 3
Who is the orchestra, please?
salviati 2 years ago
This orchestra was formed for this concert and was composed by musicians of the Philharmonic Orchestra of Buenos Aires and National Symphony Orchestra
federicoxxl 2 years ago
Look at the triangleist at 2:03
sKiiLYNE 2 years ago
the audience couldn't let her finish could they
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzander 2 years ago 11
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I've recently learned this piece. Liszt marked this movement "marziale". In my opinion it loses the stately feel of a march if begin at too quick of a tempo, as is done here, not to mention that the continual accelerando would force ridiculous tempi that obscure many of the colors that Liszt is using. I do trust that Argerich is, in fact, playing all the notes, but at times near the end I can only hear about half of them clearly, which is as much as can be done at this tempo.
maddpianist 2 years ago
It's such a shame that Argerich didn't have a tutor like you who could have taught her how to play this concerto...'correctly'
fionasapple 2 years ago 2
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radioelargentino 2 years ago
Last 30 seconds=epic.
mowmowmow9 2 years ago
fantastic~!!!
rainyIrene 2 years ago
2:00 to 2:11 little tarantella!
Love Liszt!!!!!!
francisco6050 3 years ago 2
By itself, this concerto is already an awesome masterpiece conceived by a genius. But Martha brings it up to a still higher dimension with incredible brio. Everything is there, power, emotion, sensitivity. The very best rendering of that concerto I have ever heard. Martha, you're simply the best.
shangqinli 3 years ago
she's incredible,she's a monster of music and piano.
Ellinidara 3 years ago 2
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Clarity? yes. Technique? oh, most certainly? Emotion? some, but Emotion by the standards of Liszt's music? none!
JListhename 3 years ago
Since when is emotion a prerequisite for playing Liszt? Wasn't Liszt a showy virtuoso?
alexkonow 3 years ago
mostly yes. but he does have his moments of extreme emotion. not in this movement though. this is mostly about virtuosity imo so saying this here is meaningless really.
fionasapple 3 years ago
Perhaps but I suppose it's all a matter of taste anyway.
alexkonow 3 years ago
ignorant! go studying to realize that Liszt was one of the biggest musical genius.
liszt80 3 years ago
Well, there is no doubt he was a genius. I love Liszt with all my heart and I have recordings of almost all his piano works but this concerto really is a lot of virtuosity and catchy tunes. This concerto is one of my favorites but you simply can't equate Liszt with being a terribly emotional person. Even pieces like the transcriptions Widmung (which Schumann disliked) and Liebestraum, although beautiful, are largely so effective because of crashing chords. I love him to death but he's no Faure.
alexkonow 3 years ago
Liszt was too brilliant to write something so "ordinary", grotesque and rambling. The first movement is so short and quite odd, then section after sections, there are many moods and too many elements all mixed together... (think of the perfection of Sonata, a "severe" work). Both Liszt Concertos must be seen simply as a parody of all typical Concertos examples and standards, ingenious caricatures, like Mozart's "Musical Joke"...
liszt80 3 years ago
Well, Liszt's work often captured Romantic music perfectly. While this may be of little innovation and nuances, I find the melodies lovely and stirring. It's not really expressive, I think. It's just music for music's sake. :)
alexkonow 3 years ago
reminds me of stravinsky tho he didnt exist yet
callenishss 3 years ago
What some people fail to realize is that virtuosity itself evokes certain values, like vitality, energy, and grace. There can be plenty of emotions involved. (Of course, there have to be nontrivial underlying themes for it to mean anything.)
I'm not accusing you, but I wanted to say this. The people who denigrate virtuosity remind me of the people who deem that any building taller than 3 stories is just "vanity on part of the architect." These are the people I hate.
thejerk00 3 years ago 3
Naturally virtuosity does evoke these values but is excitement really an emotion? Perhaps I didn't explain myself clearly but this piece, to me, does not seem like "serious music" but more like a crowd-pleaser. There's nothing wrong with that but it really isn't an emotional piece because it focuses so much on technicality and you don't really need to spend hours thinking about where you'll play something rubato or where you'll dwell on a certain chord sentimentally.
alexkonow 3 years ago
Ah. Fair enough... it is more of a 'fun piece' than a deep statement. But dang, it is fun.
thejerk00 3 years ago
Eloquently stated. Moritz Rosenthal said [paraphrase] 'I've found that those that insist that technique is unimportant to music-making simply lack it themselves.'
demosj 2 years ago 2
Liszt had little option but to finish up with a proper cadence and all, but the audience can't wait for that nonsense... Love it!
anthonyvlawson 3 years ago
Argerich is a love - hate performer for me. This however is definately in my "love" perfromances.
Snappers3 3 years ago
Props to the Triangle player.
drumbumgh87 4 years ago 4
Wow, that is pure FIRE! Martha Argerich is definitely one of the best pianists ever, hands down, absolutely, no questions asked.
thepianomaniac 4 years ago 8
great!!!
leandrobeikes 4 years ago 3
Demigod
floydrharper 4 years ago 2
the audience is amazing!!!!!!!!!
jghamm 4 years ago 3
This was a landmark in Buenos Aires musical life. This was captured on June 1986 live from the Teatro Colón and broadcasted through the official tv network to the whole country. Martha had not played in BA for 14 years and came only to play one single evening at which she performed Beethoven´s second, Liszt first and Prokofiev´s third. The conductor was (polish born)the late Maestro Simón Blech. A truly marathonic evening!
Even the rehersals were "sold out"!!!!
She came again in 1999...
beklopt 4 years ago
another recommended albums to pure appreciators : Arnaldo Cohen's recently released one including Totentanz. Jorge Bolet-Robert Irving partnership in 1960 on Everest (or Bescol) label would be a pure joy. :-)
MusicaAntiqua71 4 years ago
whooa~ i must be careful about those snipers behind my back or voluntarilly shut my mouth up. :-)
MusicaAntiqua71 4 years ago
yo estuve presente en esta maravillosa performance de Martha Argerich en el Teatro Colon de Buenos Aires.Fue sin duda,la gran experiencia de mi vida.
kreutzo1 4 years ago
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is this really great? i am afraid i don't think so. her tempi, rubato, excessive bravura is too radical to my ears. and her interpretation is straitforward. i agree to some comments below about Richter. His version is phenomenal. Lazar Berman's on Lazar Berman Edition(Brillian Classics, NOT DG version) and A.Watts-A.Litton partnership on Telrac is excellent too.
MusicaAntiqua71 4 years ago
to answer your question - yes this really great. The triangle man's interpretation was a little straightforward and he uses too much rhubarb but Martha stands alone...
glenngould99 4 years ago 3
different ppl have ways in putting their styles out ... i think she has focused a bit too much on her "presto" playing, but i think her style in the previous movements are great, and her playing throughout the concerto is of exemplary standard :)
arthurchan1993 4 years ago 2
grande Martha, my friend
abbjorko 4 years ago
Simply....OH MY GOD.
aldebussy 4 years ago 3
Wow, what an amazingly responsive audience there is on the web....
JasonERAU 4 years ago
Of course she's a great player, but has anyone heard Richter's recording of this concerto with Kondrashin? He plays with insight such as I've never heard in anyone else's interpretation. I doubt one can find Richter's performance on video, but anyway the CD is amazing.
debchik 4 years ago
very true. But I have to say, the best recording I've heard is Krystian Zimerman's. He's absolutely perfect for this concerto. Richter's recording of the Second is also mindblowing, definitely the most intriguing recording i've heard of that concerto.
paolohudson 4 years ago
tendrian que comparar solo las versiones de estudio....Argerich grabo este concierto con Abbado y en hace unos año lo volvio a grabar con Dutoit, ambas versiones son perfectas y muy superiores a las de Richter y Zimermann
juajua28 4 years ago
What orchestra and conductor is this?
JasonERAU 4 years ago
Holy mother of God, Argerich would absolutely destroy any pianist currently out there. That was extraordinary. Please anyone, if Argerich has any more intense recordings, let me know.
JasonERAU 4 years ago 2
Wow, I don't think i've seen or heard a better female pianist, ever.
JasonERAU 4 years ago
Finally, a non 'pussy' performance of this movement!!!
Snappers3 4 years ago 3
What city is that?
Public that can't wait with clapping until the end of the piece is ridiculous.
oboistru 4 years ago
certainly not a city of conservative, anal poeple. Common this is Liszt not Mozart!
Nataliena 4 years ago
must be somewhere in china..lol..
whatiskungfan 4 years ago
I say that's gotta be some arrogant Americans, only Americans scream like pigs..lol..
whatiskungfan 4 years ago
Americans generally don't yell "bravo." They whistle and clap and go "wooooo."
jzer21 4 years ago
Yes, we can expect the end to applaud. But when it is playing the best pianist in the world, our compatriot, we do not want to wait until the end of the piece. Ana prikrasna, krasavitsa!!!
1810fox 2 years ago 4
There are but a handful of pianists (living and dead) who could deliver this kind of white hot bravura. This is the stuff of legends.
richterfreak 5 years ago 2
I like the version that Richter plays on better, but this is simply stunning to watch.
Hindustu 5 years ago
amazing...
meowoow 5 years ago
I can't think of a better version of this concerto... I'm surprised when people don't recognize her as the greatest pianist of our time... incredible...
disolk 5 years ago
Me neither! This is the best version of this concerto I've ever seen! Man oh man!!!
cuteshox 5 years ago
larga vida a la hermosisima y genial martha argerich, diosa absoluta del piano de todos los tiempos...
anblanco333 5 years ago
The only one that culd hve played thispiece any better is FRANZ LISZT himself. Give this woman 100000 stars, then again; why should anyone be surprise? This is MARTHA ARGERICH. Have have only twenty different version of this piece, the only one who even come close is the old Steven Douglas version. She makes the rest sound like beginners.
admiralkirk2286 5 years ago 2
"then again; why should anyone be surprise? This is MARTHA ARGERICH."
Lol, that's the best way I've heard it put so far.
This performance has all the bravura needed for Liszt, but still is musical, breathless, and exciting. My favorite passage is at 3:00. Absolutely thrilling. Then, when you think she's at her limit, she brandishes her octaves (3:06), and even more miraculous is when she actually SLOWS DOWN her final diverging chromatic octaves (3:31) so the orchestra can keep up.
homoe87 5 years ago
This is SO fabulous! I just can't imagine anyone playing that better. Does anyone know when this was done? Venue? Conductor and orchestra? Thanks so much for posting.
globalmuse 5 years ago
i LOVE this performance! usually when you play with an orchestra, you're trying to catch up to the orchestra and not fall behind...but towards the end of this movement, it's the other way around. haha
iamakkarin 5 years ago
THIS IS OUT OF THIS WORLD!!!
LightFinder 5 years ago
GOD!!! I'M SPEECHLESS!
LightFinder 5 years ago
wow that blew me away just like it did when I watched her live in LOndon.There was a current that went through the whole audience.just like then.
chad410 5 years ago