the Greece Papanikolis U214 class is equipped with a hoistable radar mast which does not penetrate the pressure hull of the submarine. In the top of the radar mast the radar transmitter is installed. This transmitter is part of the SPHINX Radar System supplied by Thales Defence Deutschland GmbH in Kiel. The radar sensor is a FMCW transceiver which can't be detected by ESM systems in medium terms. This technology is so called LPI radar, which means ". COVERING EAST MEDITERANEAN
It's ridiculous how some people talk about there country. It's more then just comparing tanks, fighter jets and numbers of troops. There many countries that couldn't finance a war. You also need good relationships, like Belgium it doesn't have a large army but many countries cant begin a war against it. I like to see Iran attacking Belgium. In no time the nato will strike back.
Turkey cant just attack Greece !? First of all there both in the NATO (2) Greece is within the EU, If Turkey wants to attack Greece the European Union wont allow that. (3) The main reason why Turkey has this modern army now is because the nato. Many things are financed by the nato, when they didnt were a part of nato many (Turkish) weapons will not bin in the Turkish army because there western. Turkey made alot under license and in corporation with western countries.
"Turkish Armed Forces is the 4th strongest Armed Force in the world and 2nd strongest of NATO"
LMAO!!! What a joke! :D
You Turks don't know how pathetic you look filled with your pride, while everyone else laughs about you. :)
Last time I checked soldier numbers didn’t mean jack-squat, this isn’t the 16th Century mongol retards. And no turkey isn’t that awesome, with few hundred F-4s & F-5, a stock pile of ancient WWII tanks & rusting corvettes, yeah what a fearful army you got. Lol! ;)
@alxxz I think you are stuck in 60's and 70's my friend...Turks have the technology as well as head count. Second biggest F16 fleet in the world after US. Most ships are same age as the ones in US Navy. Mid 80's Frigates. Very deadly and small subs. Very much upgraded battle tanks and new APC's. They are also gearing up for building their own ships and huge merchant marine fleet. Very capable Navy Seal teams. Highly trained soldiers and as you noticed pride and love for their country.
F-16s are already 2 generations behind,none of the advanced European nations invest into that and besides,Egypt has the same amount of F16 if not more than Turkey.As for the "upgraded" tanks,how can you even compare that junk Korean tank to the German Leopard tanks,the battle hardened Abrams or the all-mighty T-90?"Highly trained soldiers" oh, you mean your slave-like poor & uneducated mixed-race people, who can barely speak or write turkish.Navy Seals?!Thats a good one that made laugh
@alxxz Bull shit about F16's. They are all upgraded and they will continue to be upgraded. The difference between Egypt and Turks, if you don't know it by now, go watch movie "Gallipoli"...Then you will see it. Battle hardened Abrams?...You are stupid...You use that term for human, not for tank.... idiot..And yes, Highly trained soldiers...I went to school with Gayreek naval officers and they were the most stupid ones in the class...I had to help them to pass the class...Got it stupid?
And I can only laugh @ your "huge merchant fleet quote" :D Mongols only know about horses not ships! :D You have a long way to go to pass Greece, which has the largest merchant fleet in the world and constantly increasing, currently holding 15,96% of the international fleet and 169.426.690 dwt shipping capacity. Turkey is not even in the Top.20.
@alxxz You know what...you started to really piss me off knuckle head...I can tell you are a fucken GayReek....All your come backs are Gayreek releated...Go feed yourself you son of a bitch...YOU ARE THE MOST CORRUPT NATION IN EUROPE. ...You are surviving based on hand outs from Western European countries. You are bankrupt and will continue to stay down economically. Militarily, you are never and you will never be match to Turks. They will kick your ass every single time...Got it?
Seeing as the majority of turks are poor & live with 5-10$ a day,I can only laugh at your statements.No matter how much they're upgraded,they'll always be 2 generations behind in comparison to other modern fighter jets.I bet you're probably either swiping the floors of one those old turk frigates or you're one of many poor turk immigrants living abroad.Oh No! We're so scared now! :D We piss all over your military.If it's war you want it's war you're have.Come and get it if you dare!
@alxxz Hmm...Seems to me that it is Gayreeks are starving...Not Turks..You are all over the news in US that you are totally fucked up...I am curious what "other modern fighter jets" you are talking about?.
And yes, I used to be in Turkish Navy as an officer and remember very well how we messed around with Gayreek navy and have them run away everytime we change course towards them. And I work abroad as a Program Manager in High Tech company in US..I bet it it is a lot better than what you have.
Sorry, no starving people in Greece! Lol! But I've seen the poor & un-educated people & cities in Eastern & north-Anatolia they're very 3rd world indeed with slums and sewage running across the street. Even Antalia is overwhelmed with shacks (of course away & hidden from the touristic sea-front). Don't worry I'm happily working on my studied field and I don't have to move abroad as a poor immigrant like you.
And if you're so smart & turkey is so cool & rich, why don't you work there?!
@alxxz You really make me laugh.So uninformed and un-educated.There are no slums and sewage runing in the street in Turkey...My brother is merchant marine captain and he has been in Athens.No wonder you are envy of Turks and Istanbul.Athens is fucked up..Dirty and smelly.Just like Gayreeks. We have poors in Turkey..But at least our middle class numbers increasing everyday while gayreek middle class numbers decreasing.What else can I help you to understand other than you realize you are stupid?
Middle class in turkey?!Vast majority of your people are exploited to the bone like any other authoritarian 3rd world country and are paid scrubs,theyre uneducated and can barely read or write turk with that obscure parody Latin alphabet which you adopted only recently.While Greeks are the most educated people in Europe with Uni,masters&Doctora degrees.Your wimp bro most have visited the small prostitute area of Athens trying to score chicks as turk women are fat,ugly&cover their hair
And you lie by the way; all major turk cities have slums, poor houses & unpaved streets, a walk just around the Greek Byzantine Citadel in Ankara, the European degraded part of Constantinople and the city's Byzantine walls where poor live inside them, and even Antalia, will convince anyone.
The US?! Hah, what a joke! Soon they'll have to start giving away their carriers to the Chinese to repay their debts and you'll be out of the job and back in your slams in turkey. Messing around with the Greek navy were you? Last time I checked, all the islands in the Aegean were withing Greek sovereignty, so I would say you did pretty a terrible job at that! :D
Any Euro-fighter, Gripen, or Rafale, MiG-35 and the Sukhoi Su-35.is vastly superior than any "upgraded" F-16.
@alxxz Hey Mr Idiot...Last time I checked all those fighter jets has not shot down shit....They sound sexy, but thats about it...F16's still rule the skys, and they will continue to do so...Eurofighter my ass..
Mr idiot..Just for your info..My job requires me to work, in Turkey, US and England...So, I am not stuck here some poor immigrant as you wish to think..I represent the interest of my company in Turkey.. At the mean time, you are stuck in a country have to beg others to survive...right?
So, just because those modern jets haven't participated in many aerial campaigns to shot down anything, means that they're worse than the F-16?! Wow that's some smart logic! :D My country is one of the most beautiful and most envied lands in the world, with the most vibrant islands and continuous sun-shine with no islamic scum mosques & imamis shouting like dogs from minarets everyday. You only wish you could live here. Now go back to your garbage job and work like a dog that you are!
@alxxz Greece as an envied land?...r u fucking stupid?...I would never live in Greece even if you pay me mega salary...I don't need to live with fucking corrupt people. By the way you have Imam's reading ezans in mosques in Greece...million of muslim population there...I guess you are not alone huh idiot...There are Turks in Greece everywhere///remember Ottoman Empire?...Your mom was probably fucked by Ottoman Turks in the past...Thats why you are so angry...Fuck you asshole....
Athens is the only EU capital without any official operating mosques and that wont be changing any time soon. But I guess you're not dark-skinned and slit eyed after all... ;) Opps, sorry for hitting a sensitive nerve there! ;) But that makes you a mongrel.
For an Islamic nation of pigs, it sure is funny & ironic that you don’t eat them! :)) Lol!
@alxxz eat further your pig meat...Turks destroyed greek army in 2 days and took half cyprus.... by the way greece is fucked up by germany ! good job germany ! fucking greeks want live with the poor tax money of german people...wel im glad that Germany kicked you out...soon greece out of the eurozone ! :-)
Indeed it is envied. You can ask any turk chick that desperately wants to get the hell out of your back-ward islamic nation and flee to Greece, Europe anywhere but turkey. Where men beat up their women and boast about it at cafes afterwards of how energetic they feel for doing so. And how they consider turk men fat & ugly and prefer Greek guys any day of the year! Oh the irony! :D Trust me I know, from experience at our islands during our hot Summers... ;)
And if you were a real officer and the turk navy was actually a modern navy like the US, French, UK, etc... you would have staid to do a carrier there, but you didn't because you and the turk navy are both garbage.
@alxxz I served 10 years for my homeland. I am proud of it...Turkish navy is a lot modern than you think idiot..Your UN-INFORMED comments does not change the reality...The more you open your mouth, the more I realize how stupid the GayReeks are..
Would you like me to provide my GayReek navy classmates names so, you can check on their school performance in US Navy Schools...They were despized by our US Navy teachers, we couldn't believe how stupid they were...Just like you idiot..
Its funny how you of all people, the world’s No.1 US/EU ass-kissers, would talk about economy, when turkey just a few years back was on the verge of bankruptcy, that lead you to the IMF and practically sold off your entire country to foreigners (Both public & private sector)! Greece is currently the top investor in the Balkans and one of the top in Eastern Europe & Turkey. Many Turkish banks, companies are practically Greek owned.
@alxxz Also, you are an internet war hero...aren't you?.You would be the first son of a bitch run away in case of confrantation....You would piss all over Turkish military...?...Man, you really make me laugh now....You must be stupid to think that...Remember Kardak ?...When Turkish Seals landed on Kardak , Gayreek Navy had 6 ships monitoring the area...If you couldn't catch those seals, how to fuck you are supposed to win a war against Turkey...Get a reality check bro...Fuck you.....
As for the Imia incident,all I know is that the Greek military was ready for a full scale war without any hesitation and ready to kick your ass. It was our USA puppet PM simitis who ordered to step back for political reasons.Oh and for the record it was the Greek navy seal who landed on the rock nearest to Asia Minor shores 1st without your patrols noticing.Dont worry Ive served in the army as an officer too,so I would know how to fire a gun at u
@alxxz Mr Gayreek....The guy landed the seals on Kardak was an officer friend of mine...You can say anything you want, all world media saw this as a victory for Turks..I can understand why you don't accept it, because reality hurts...So you blame it on Simitis...He saved your ass big time...Otherwise, you would have been fucked...You were fucked 600 years, you were fucked in Istanbul, you were fucked in Izmir, you were fucked in Cyprus and you would have been fucked in Kardak as well...Got it?
I see that you’re overly emphasizing the word “gay”. I’m sorry but homosexuality is a turkish thing. The gay infested hamam baths with the hairy men that rub / wash each other and the gay oil turk-wrestling, is turkey's greatest contribution to the world.
But the fact is that you’re a soup of nation of mixed raced people made up of Greeks, Kurds, Armenians, Arabs, Persians, Turks who were forcefully converted to Islam through the means of ethnic cleansing & genocide. So if you’re dark skinned with slit eyes then you’re a pure turko-mongol, but if you’re white with oval eyes, then your mom was fucked by a Greek somewhere along the line.
Don't waste your breath trying to scare us. Like I said. No one gives jack-squat about the turks in Greece today. If it’s war you want its war you’ll have. Anytime any place! Come if you dare.
most if not all of Turkey's weapon's systems are either imported or license produced in turkey with most critical components being made in the West.You can't be a major power without your own military industrial complex.Fact is even Sweden a small European country has a far far more advanced military industrial complex.
@krenim786 These are facts that I always point out to many of my Turkish friends. Fact is the secular party and military have ruled the country with a tyrannical grip for the last 80 odd years. The true potential has always been with the Muslim majority of Turkey not the Kemalists. If it were up to the Kemalists the country would be turned into a soviet styled nation.. indications are evident of this with the cult like worship of Mustafa Kemal. Now the true patriots are in power though
Some indians and other similar ill doers change their identity on youtube to stirup problems among muslims. Plz beware of them, esp dirty kafir of india. : )
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Greeks has better pilots..its been proven in nato exercises seeing the Turks have bigger land troops and air force.....Turks keep saying how they kicked Greeks ass..well they should do some home work and see how many times Greeks kicked their ass......Dont count Cyprus they only had 50,000 national guard with no air force.
Turkish 192nd and 161st squadron Pilots became the best Pilots in 8 of 11 NATO Aviation exercises. 3 Tiger Meets, 2 Red Flags and 3 Anatolian Eagles Gold Medals...
Turks and Greeks are fighting Eachother since 445AD and They fought against Eachother 42 times. Turks won 33 of these wars and Greeks won 9 of these Wars. We see everything my friend. Read the books of Lewis who is a foreign historian making searches about Turkic Nation...
Sorry to brake the ice retard, but turks were screwing horses in Mongolia in 445AD! And no, the Huns were not turks! turks 1st fought the Greeks and arrived massly in Anatolia after the battle of Matzikert in 1071. You turks don't know how pathetic you look filled with your pride, while everyone else laughs about you!
BY THE WAY only 47000 Turkish Infantry performed operations in Cyprus 1974. 1200 Tanks and 120 Jets Supported Turkish Troops while 320 Turkish Jets and 3000 Turkish Tanks didn't join the operation.
74 Greek Jets supported Cypriot Guards by the way...
Oh, And Don't Forget that Turkish Armed Forces has the Strongest Tank, APC, IFV and FAV Divisions in Europe ,Middle East and Caucasus with 4400 Tanks, 7600 APC/IFV...
British Navy, Which is the pride of English People for Centuries, now has 17 Frigates, 0 Corvettes and 13 Submarines; where Turkish Navy has 24 Frigates, 12 Corvettes and 18 Submarines.
Take a look at "globalfirepower com" You'll see that Turkish Armed Forces is the 8th in the world. And It is the 4th strongest in the world without respect to Nukes. It is Surely in top 8 and it is in top 4 according to Conventional Weapons.
Let me give you an example about Turkish Fire Power: British Army has 446 Tanks, where Turkish Army has 4400 Tanks and Turkey has MORE TANKS than the SUM of France, Germany, UK, Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Finland and Greece.
Also we get BMP-3 A.I.F.V.and we have M-901 ITV with TOW anti tank missiles not only leonidas and M-113 and BMP-1.And we have the best anti tank sistem the KORNET -E.
The Best Anti Tank system is Javelin Missile(250 in Turkish AF). By the way Search T-129 and Altai Tank before talking again or I'll delete your comments again...
Oh, By the way, Although your comments we nonsence, I was going to answer them instead of removing. I decided to Remove when I heard the "185 Turkish
F-16". TuAF has 246 F-16 and 30 more will join TuAF in 2011. 116 F-35 will start joining in 2011 and finish in 2014...
Another Fact for you: Turkish Air Force operates the 2nd Largest F-16 fleet in the world after USAF. Greece has the 6th largest. But that's also good :D
I'am sory,i remember,you speak about AGM-84 S.L.A.M. EXPANDED RANGE missile[yes,you have that in your air force,i accept that,you get that with the apgreade of F-16 CCIP].But aour SCALP EG is better in range.
But Scalp-EG flies in low altitude and flies very slowly so it can be hit by ASEL-ZKN-T1 while on the way. And it is unguided so it can't hit mobile units such has 1000 Turkish Tanks...
I understand you very well my friend you are working hard every day to take good notes in maths and other lessons. But you should also understand that Turkish Armed Forces is several times stronger than Greek Army in terms of Quality and Quantity and it is about military search not about reading magazines. I know that AH-64 looks very fancy but you should learn about T-129's abilities(For Example).
As a Rookie in the subject, you have to know that you can't change my ideas or thoughts couse truth is always the truth not an ideology Before masturbating at home, ask this quastion to yourself: "Why does Turkey spend 2,5 times more money on Army than Greece?" And You know, We spend 2,5 times more on Arms although we get the weapons cheaper than you do couse we produce them more than you and we buy them from USA for lower prices...
Yeah I know that system but not from books like you.and not Expos :D And Sorry your comments are too wrong to correct... some wrong numbers and wrong info about Turkish Military Units Quality...
And far more advanced with what? 20 Block 52+? Turkish Air Force upgraded their 246 F-16 to Block 50+ Standards with Turkish CCIP projects made by TAI. Turkish Jets are supported by 6 KC-135 Tankers which is someting you don't have. By the way Can you show me a Greek Jet more advanced than F-35? Your only unit that can realize F-35 is
You have 4 EMB-145 Awacs while we have 6 B-737-700 AEW&C MESA Awacs which is faar more advanced than EMB-145. Turkish Airforce is superior to Hellenic Air Force with it's Fighter Jets, Refueling Capabilities, Intelligence Units and Electronic Warfare Capabilities.
Only subject in which HAF is superior is Anti Aircraft Systems.
--Which Armor Units? Turkish Army has 4500 Tanks while Greek Army has 1460. Turkish Army has 11 100 Armor Units while Greek Army has 4400. Our Tanks are more than all your Armored Units.
--Your Leopard 2A6 is better than Our Leopard 2A4 I accept it. But what about our M-60T against your M-60A3 or our Leopard 1T against your Leopard 1A5? Turkish M-60 and Leopard 1 Tanks are superior to yours.
By the way Turkish Invention and Production Altai Tank is superior than your German made Leopard 2A6. Altai Tank is the product of Turkish OTOKAR Company with Technology Transfer from Korean K-2 Tank. Turkish OTOKAR Company will produce 1000 Altai Tank in 2011. 1000 Altai Tank against your 170 Leopard 2A6...
6700 Turkish APC against 2900 Greek APC. Turkish FNNS Pars, Turkish FNNS Akıncı, Turkish FNNS ZPT Turkish Otokar Cobra, Turkish Otokar Yavuz... Pars, Akıncı and Cobra were chosen the best APC in the world with German Puma APC, German Fennek APC and English Warrior APC in 3 Expos made in Germany, England and Turkey(IDEF). Number of Pars, Akıncı and Cobra is 2700 Total. 2700 of worlds best APCs.
And What does Greece have? ELBO Leonidas, ELBO Kentaurus...
AH-1W Super Cobra plus 51 Turkish Invention and Production T-129 Assault Helicopter which is proved to be the most agile Assault Helicopter in the World after RAH-66 Commance. It has the half weight of Apache although it has 2 1350 HP motors.
By their what? 4500 Armor Units? 230 Jets? 90000 Frontline Personell? 9 Billion Dolars Millitary Budget? Better than Turkish Army with 11100 Armor Units, 490 Jets, 1 Million Frontline Personell and 30 Billion Dolars Military Budget, Eh??? Don't believe the guys in the church. They said the same 556 years ago but It's Turks living in Istanbul not Greeks...
I hope even with Turkey building their own weapons Turkey and the United States will remain friends. In my 24 years in the U.S. Navy I visited Turkey many times and found everyone friendly and I always felt welcomed. One of the better countries to visit. Oh and Izmir was probably the cleanest big city I have ever seen.
Which City did they take over can you count me? Only thing they do is hiding in the mountains. Terrorism can't be finished with Military Power, it can be finished with education and the right political moves. US army controlls Afghanistan but still couldn't catch Osama Bin Laden even with NATO support. We cought the leader of PKK so is Turkish Army stronger than US Army?
Im an albanian army officer and i wish to express my respect for the turkish army. Keep it stong and use it against the politicans and the islamic idiots. Keep in mind that great man of Mustafa Qemal Pasha and dont forget his legacy.
It won't last long. I mean the AirCraft not Alliance. We are producing everyweapon with our own technology at the moment except transport helicopter and jets. %90 Our Weapons were American in 1994 and only %15 of them are American Now...
Turkish Armed Forces is the second largest standing armed force in NATO, after the U.S. Armed Forces. Not second strongest. Largest is not always strongest. I time of cold war USSR had about 3 time more solders but still USA has been considered to be stronger.
Largest isn't always the strongest but this time it is. That's becouse Turkish Army isn't only large, but also well equipped and is trained perfectly prooved in NATO competitions and battles. By the way the 2 countries were considered to have the same strenght since they both had enough nuclear weapons to end the life on earth.
1. Turkey has huge and good but not experienced army
2. Very poor nave force against the Greek
3. 1 Greek pilot = 5 Turkish ones (something that is proven between NATO's exercices where two best pilots of them were both Greek)
4. Turkey is a 2nd world country ( eastern turkey 3rd world) and this is good for Greece
BYE
c0mmando96 2 months ago
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the Greece Papanikolis U214 class is equipped with a hoistable radar mast which does not penetrate the pressure hull of the submarine. In the top of the radar mast the radar transmitter is installed. This transmitter is part of the SPHINX Radar System supplied by Thales Defence Deutschland GmbH in Kiel. The radar sensor is a FMCW transceiver which can't be detected by ESM systems in medium terms. This technology is so called LPI radar, which means ". COVERING EAST MEDITERANEAN
JIMY45GR 5 months ago
Bunlar oluyorda noluyor dağda gene şehit veriyoruz
lettmecut36 6 months ago
@lettmecut36 terörle mücadeleyi düzenli orduların mücadelesiyle karıştırdın heralde.
Oguzhanpasa1907 4 months ago
It's ridiculous how some people talk about there country. It's more then just comparing tanks, fighter jets and numbers of troops. There many countries that couldn't finance a war. You also need good relationships, like Belgium it doesn't have a large army but many countries cant begin a war against it. I like to see Iran attacking Belgium. In no time the nato will strike back.
glendelio 9 months ago
Turkey cant just attack Greece !? First of all there both in the NATO (2) Greece is within the EU, If Turkey wants to attack Greece the European Union wont allow that. (3) The main reason why Turkey has this modern army now is because the nato. Many things are financed by the nato, when they didnt were a part of nato many (Turkish) weapons will not bin in the Turkish army because there western. Turkey made alot under license and in corporation with western countries.
glendelio 9 months ago
WE TAKE GREECE IN ONLY 24 HOURS...
Aslnatepe11 9 months ago
"Turkish Armed Forces is the 4th strongest Armed Force in the world and 2nd strongest of NATO"
LMAO!!! What a joke! :D
You Turks don't know how pathetic you look filled with your pride, while everyone else laughs about you. :)
Last time I checked soldier numbers didn’t mean jack-squat, this isn’t the 16th Century mongol retards. And no turkey isn’t that awesome, with few hundred F-4s & F-5, a stock pile of ancient WWII tanks & rusting corvettes, yeah what a fearful army you got. Lol! ;)
alxxz 11 months ago
@alxxz I think you are stuck in 60's and 70's my friend...Turks have the technology as well as head count. Second biggest F16 fleet in the world after US. Most ships are same age as the ones in US Navy. Mid 80's Frigates. Very deadly and small subs. Very much upgraded battle tanks and new APC's. They are also gearing up for building their own ships and huge merchant marine fleet. Very capable Navy Seal teams. Highly trained soldiers and as you noticed pride and love for their country.
mr280zxt 8 months ago
@mr280zxt
F-16s are already 2 generations behind,none of the advanced European nations invest into that and besides,Egypt has the same amount of F16 if not more than Turkey.As for the "upgraded" tanks,how can you even compare that junk Korean tank to the German Leopard tanks,the battle hardened Abrams or the all-mighty T-90?"Highly trained soldiers" oh, you mean your slave-like poor & uneducated mixed-race people, who can barely speak or write turkish.Navy Seals?!Thats a good one that made laugh
alxxz 7 months ago
@alxxz Bull shit about F16's. They are all upgraded and they will continue to be upgraded. The difference between Egypt and Turks, if you don't know it by now, go watch movie "Gallipoli"...Then you will see it. Battle hardened Abrams?...You are stupid...You use that term for human, not for tank.... idiot..And yes, Highly trained soldiers...I went to school with Gayreek naval officers and they were the most stupid ones in the class...I had to help them to pass the class...Got it stupid?
mr280zxt 7 months ago
@mr280zxt
And I can only laugh @ your "huge merchant fleet quote" :D Mongols only know about horses not ships! :D You have a long way to go to pass Greece, which has the largest merchant fleet in the world and constantly increasing, currently holding 15,96% of the international fleet and 169.426.690 dwt shipping capacity. Turkey is not even in the Top.20.
alxxz 7 months ago
@alxxz You know what...you started to really piss me off knuckle head...I can tell you are a fucken GayReek....All your come backs are Gayreek releated...Go feed yourself you son of a bitch...YOU ARE THE MOST CORRUPT NATION IN EUROPE. ...You are surviving based on hand outs from Western European countries. You are bankrupt and will continue to stay down economically. Militarily, you are never and you will never be match to Turks. They will kick your ass every single time...Got it?
mr280zxt 7 months ago
@mr280zxt
Seeing as the majority of turks are poor & live with 5-10$ a day,I can only laugh at your statements.No matter how much they're upgraded,they'll always be 2 generations behind in comparison to other modern fighter jets.I bet you're probably either swiping the floors of one those old turk frigates or you're one of many poor turk immigrants living abroad.Oh No! We're so scared now! :D We piss all over your military.If it's war you want it's war you're have.Come and get it if you dare!
alxxz 7 months ago
@alxxz Hmm...Seems to me that it is Gayreeks are starving...Not Turks..You are all over the news in US that you are totally fucked up...I am curious what "other modern fighter jets" you are talking about?.
And yes, I used to be in Turkish Navy as an officer and remember very well how we messed around with Gayreek navy and have them run away everytime we change course towards them. And I work abroad as a Program Manager in High Tech company in US..I bet it it is a lot better than what you have.
mr280zxt 7 months ago
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alxxz 7 months ago
@mr280zxt
Sorry, no starving people in Greece! Lol! But I've seen the poor & un-educated people & cities in Eastern & north-Anatolia they're very 3rd world indeed with slums and sewage running across the street. Even Antalia is overwhelmed with shacks (of course away & hidden from the touristic sea-front). Don't worry I'm happily working on my studied field and I don't have to move abroad as a poor immigrant like you.
And if you're so smart & turkey is so cool & rich, why don't you work there?!
alxxz 7 months ago
@alxxz You really make me laugh.So uninformed and un-educated.There are no slums and sewage runing in the street in Turkey...My brother is merchant marine captain and he has been in Athens.No wonder you are envy of Turks and Istanbul.Athens is fucked up..Dirty and smelly.Just like Gayreeks. We have poors in Turkey..But at least our middle class numbers increasing everyday while gayreek middle class numbers decreasing.What else can I help you to understand other than you realize you are stupid?
mr280zxt 7 months ago
@mr280zxt
Middle class in turkey?!Vast majority of your people are exploited to the bone like any other authoritarian 3rd world country and are paid scrubs,theyre uneducated and can barely read or write turk with that obscure parody Latin alphabet which you adopted only recently.While Greeks are the most educated people in Europe with Uni,masters&Doctora degrees.Your wimp bro most have visited the small prostitute area of Athens trying to score chicks as turk women are fat,ugly&cover their hair
alxxz 7 months ago
@mr280zxt
And you lie by the way; all major turk cities have slums, poor houses & unpaved streets, a walk just around the Greek Byzantine Citadel in Ankara, the European degraded part of Constantinople and the city's Byzantine walls where poor live inside them, and even Antalia, will convince anyone.
alxxz 7 months ago
@mr280zxt
The US?! Hah, what a joke! Soon they'll have to start giving away their carriers to the Chinese to repay their debts and you'll be out of the job and back in your slams in turkey. Messing around with the Greek navy were you? Last time I checked, all the islands in the Aegean were withing Greek sovereignty, so I would say you did pretty a terrible job at that! :D
Any Euro-fighter, Gripen, or Rafale, MiG-35 and the Sukhoi Su-35.is vastly superior than any "upgraded" F-16.
alxxz 7 months ago
@alxxz Hey Mr Idiot...Last time I checked all those fighter jets has not shot down shit....They sound sexy, but thats about it...F16's still rule the skys, and they will continue to do so...Eurofighter my ass..
Mr idiot..Just for your info..My job requires me to work, in Turkey, US and England...So, I am not stuck here some poor immigrant as you wish to think..I represent the interest of my company in Turkey.. At the mean time, you are stuck in a country have to beg others to survive...right?
mr280zxt 7 months ago
@mr280zxt
So, just because those modern jets haven't participated in many aerial campaigns to shot down anything, means that they're worse than the F-16?! Wow that's some smart logic! :D My country is one of the most beautiful and most envied lands in the world, with the most vibrant islands and continuous sun-shine with no islamic scum mosques & imamis shouting like dogs from minarets everyday. You only wish you could live here. Now go back to your garbage job and work like a dog that you are!
alxxz 7 months ago
@alxxz Greece as an envied land?...r u fucking stupid?...I would never live in Greece even if you pay me mega salary...I don't need to live with fucking corrupt people. By the way you have Imam's reading ezans in mosques in Greece...million of muslim population there...I guess you are not alone huh idiot...There are Turks in Greece everywhere///remember Ottoman Empire?...Your mom was probably fucked by Ottoman Turks in the past...Thats why you are so angry...Fuck you asshole....
mr280zxt 7 months ago
@mr280zxt
Athens is the only EU capital without any official operating mosques and that wont be changing any time soon. But I guess you're not dark-skinned and slit eyed after all... ;) Opps, sorry for hitting a sensitive nerve there! ;) But that makes you a mongrel.
For an Islamic nation of pigs, it sure is funny & ironic that you don’t eat them! :)) Lol!
alxxz 7 months ago
@alxxz eat further your pig meat...Turks destroyed greek army in 2 days and took half cyprus.... by the way greece is fucked up by germany ! good job germany ! fucking greeks want live with the poor tax money of german people...wel im glad that Germany kicked you out...soon greece out of the eurozone ! :-)
dwaler27 3 months ago
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alxxz 7 months ago
@mr280zxt
Indeed it is envied. You can ask any turk chick that desperately wants to get the hell out of your back-ward islamic nation and flee to Greece, Europe anywhere but turkey. Where men beat up their women and boast about it at cafes afterwards of how energetic they feel for doing so. And how they consider turk men fat & ugly and prefer Greek guys any day of the year! Oh the irony! :D Trust me I know, from experience at our islands during our hot Summers... ;)
alxxz 7 months ago
@mr280zxt
And if you were a real officer and the turk navy was actually a modern navy like the US, French, UK, etc... you would have staid to do a carrier there, but you didn't because you and the turk navy are both garbage.
alxxz 7 months ago
@alxxz I served 10 years for my homeland. I am proud of it...Turkish navy is a lot modern than you think idiot..Your UN-INFORMED comments does not change the reality...The more you open your mouth, the more I realize how stupid the GayReeks are..
Would you like me to provide my GayReek navy classmates names so, you can check on their school performance in US Navy Schools...They were despized by our US Navy teachers, we couldn't believe how stupid they were...Just like you idiot..
mr280zxt 7 months ago
@mr280zxt
Its funny how you of all people, the world’s No.1 US/EU ass-kissers, would talk about economy, when turkey just a few years back was on the verge of bankruptcy, that lead you to the IMF and practically sold off your entire country to foreigners (Both public & private sector)! Greece is currently the top investor in the Balkans and one of the top in Eastern Europe & Turkey. Many Turkish banks, companies are practically Greek owned.
alxxz 7 months ago
@alxxz Also, you are an internet war hero...aren't you?.You would be the first son of a bitch run away in case of confrantation....You would piss all over Turkish military...?...Man, you really make me laugh now....You must be stupid to think that...Remember Kardak ?...When Turkish Seals landed on Kardak , Gayreek Navy had 6 ships monitoring the area...If you couldn't catch those seals, how to fuck you are supposed to win a war against Turkey...Get a reality check bro...Fuck you.....
mr280zxt 7 months ago
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alxxz 7 months ago
@mr280zxt
Read my previous comments above mongol.
As for the Imia incident,all I know is that the Greek military was ready for a full scale war without any hesitation and ready to kick your ass. It was our USA puppet PM simitis who ordered to step back for political reasons.Oh and for the record it was the Greek navy seal who landed on the rock nearest to Asia Minor shores 1st without your patrols noticing.Dont worry Ive served in the army as an officer too,so I would know how to fire a gun at u
alxxz 7 months ago
@alxxz Mr Gayreek....The guy landed the seals on Kardak was an officer friend of mine...You can say anything you want, all world media saw this as a victory for Turks..I can understand why you don't accept it, because reality hurts...So you blame it on Simitis...He saved your ass big time...Otherwise, you would have been fucked...You were fucked 600 years, you were fucked in Istanbul, you were fucked in Izmir, you were fucked in Cyprus and you would have been fucked in Kardak as well...Got it?
mr280zxt 7 months ago
@mr280zxt
I see that you’re overly emphasizing the word “gay”. I’m sorry but homosexuality is a turkish thing. The gay infested hamam baths with the hairy men that rub / wash each other and the gay oil turk-wrestling, is turkey's greatest contribution to the world.
alxxz 7 months ago
@mr280zxt
But the fact is that you’re a soup of nation of mixed raced people made up of Greeks, Kurds, Armenians, Arabs, Persians, Turks who were forcefully converted to Islam through the means of ethnic cleansing & genocide. So if you’re dark skinned with slit eyes then you’re a pure turko-mongol, but if you’re white with oval eyes, then your mom was fucked by a Greek somewhere along the line.
alxxz 7 months ago
@mr280zxt
Don't waste your breath trying to scare us. Like I said. No one gives jack-squat about the turks in Greece today. If it’s war you want its war you’ll have. Anytime any place! Come if you dare.
alxxz 7 months ago
GREEK ONLY 12 OURS THAN ITS TURKEY !
11ottoman11 1 year ago
This video without music is like turks: shit
GODDIONYSUS 1 year ago
I hope they have a good supply of white flags. We saw what the Israelis did to these devils. Can you spell 'Decimated'?
todaystemplars 1 year ago
most if not all of Turkey's weapon's systems are either imported or license produced in turkey with most critical components being made in the West.You can't be a major power without your own military industrial complex.Fact is even Sweden a small European country has a far far more advanced military industrial complex.
Those are the facts.
krenim786 1 year ago
@krenim786 These are facts that I always point out to many of my Turkish friends. Fact is the secular party and military have ruled the country with a tyrannical grip for the last 80 odd years. The true potential has always been with the Muslim majority of Turkey not the Kemalists. If it were up to the Kemalists the country would be turned into a soviet styled nation.. indications are evident of this with the cult like worship of Mustafa Kemal. Now the true patriots are in power though
455oldsTARoadHun 11 months ago
Some indians and other similar ill doers change their identity on youtube to stirup problems among muslims. Plz beware of them, esp dirty kafir of india. : )
gaga00114 2 years ago
Оk super!!!!
andponik 2 years ago
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Greeks has better pilots..its been proven in nato exercises seeing the Turks have bigger land troops and air force.....Turks keep saying how they kicked Greeks ass..well they should do some home work and see how many times Greeks kicked their ass......Dont count Cyprus they only had 50,000 national guard with no air force.
pentogram23 2 years ago
Turkish 192nd and 161st squadron Pilots became the best Pilots in 8 of 11 NATO Aviation exercises. 3 Tiger Meets, 2 Red Flags and 3 Anatolian Eagles Gold Medals...
Turks and Greeks are fighting Eachother since 445AD and They fought against Eachother 42 times. Turks won 33 of these wars and Greeks won 9 of these Wars. We see everything my friend. Read the books of Lewis who is a foreign historian making searches about Turkic Nation...
Janissary1991 2 years ago 7
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@Janissary1991
Sorry to brake the ice retard, but turks were screwing horses in Mongolia in 445AD! And no, the Huns were not turks! turks 1st fought the Greeks and arrived massly in Anatolia after the battle of Matzikert in 1071. You turks don't know how pathetic you look filled with your pride, while everyone else laughs about you!
alxxz 7 months ago
BY THE WAY only 47000 Turkish Infantry performed operations in Cyprus 1974. 1200 Tanks and 120 Jets Supported Turkish Troops while 320 Turkish Jets and 3000 Turkish Tanks didn't join the operation.
74 Greek Jets supported Cypriot Guards by the way...
Janissary1991 2 years ago
What I'm trying to say is that Turkish Armed Forces didn't attack Cyprus with full force. More Armored Units solve the problems ;)
Janissary1991 2 years ago
@pentogram23 funny. greek is a 3 hours of work to get them wiped off the map
Bozkurt68400 11 months ago
@pentogram23
hassktirr
immortoal 10 months ago
@pentogram23
youtube . com/watch?v=6C1Yk2KEpLc
See who is better x)..
punkboyful 7 months ago
Oh, And Don't Forget that Turkish Armed Forces has the Strongest Tank, APC, IFV and FAV Divisions in Europe ,Middle East and Caucasus with 4400 Tanks, 7600 APC/IFV...
British Navy, Which is the pride of English People for Centuries, now has 17 Frigates, 0 Corvettes and 13 Submarines; where Turkish Navy has 24 Frigates, 12 Corvettes and 18 Submarines.
Janissary1991 2 years ago
Take a look at "globalfirepower com" You'll see that Turkish Armed Forces is the 8th in the world. And It is the 4th strongest in the world without respect to Nukes. It is Surely in top 8 and it is in top 4 according to Conventional Weapons.
Let me give you an example about Turkish Fire Power: British Army has 446 Tanks, where Turkish Army has 4400 Tanks and Turkey has MORE TANKS than the SUM of France, Germany, UK, Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Finland and Greece.
THANK YOU...
Janissary1991 2 years ago
*remember if you removed my coments again you are a faggot[propably you do removing ha ha].
sailorkostas 3 years ago
If you write insulting comments like this one I'll delete it without hesitating...
And it's us who fucked you in history so don't be funny...
Janissary1991 3 years ago
Also we get BMP-3 A.I.F.V.and we have M-901 ITV with TOW anti tank missiles not only leonidas and M-113 and BMP-1.And we have the best anti tank sistem the KORNET -E.
sailorkostas 3 years ago
The Best Anti Tank system is Javelin Missile(250 in Turkish AF). By the way Search T-129 and Altai Tank before talking again or I'll delete your comments again...
Janissary1991 3 years ago
Oh, By the way, Although your comments we nonsence, I was going to answer them instead of removing. I decided to Remove when I heard the "185 Turkish
F-16". TuAF has 246 F-16 and 30 more will join TuAF in 2011. 116 F-35 will start joining in 2011 and finish in 2014...
Another Fact for you: Turkish Air Force operates the 2nd Largest F-16 fleet in the world after USAF. Greece has the 6th largest. But that's also good :D
Janissary1991 3 years ago
I'am sory,i remember,you speak about AGM-84 S.L.A.M. EXPANDED RANGE missile[yes,you have that in your air force,i accept that,you get that with the apgreade of F-16 CCIP].But aour SCALP EG is better in range.
sailorkostas 3 years ago
Here's a mental Comment. Thanks for this.
But Scalp-EG flies in low altitude and flies very slowly so it can be hit by ASEL-ZKN-T1 while on the way. And it is unguided so it can't hit mobile units such has 1000 Turkish Tanks...
Janissary1991 3 years ago
And by the way,DO NOT REMOVE any of aour comment.HAIL GREECE!!!!
sailorkostas 3 years ago
I would do what you said If you claimed true things.
I mean we develop Leopard 1T from Leopard 1A5 and you say that 1A5 is better than 1T. LoL is this mental???LoL
Janissary1991 3 years ago
We have better air force in all categories,and better navy-army.we are a great european military power.YOU ANDERSTAND NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
sailorkostas 3 years ago
I understand you very well my friend you are working hard every day to take good notes in maths and other lessons. But you should also understand that Turkish Armed Forces is several times stronger than Greek Army in terms of Quality and Quantity and it is about military search not about reading magazines. I know that AH-64 looks very fancy but you should learn about T-129's abilities(For Example).
Janissary1991 3 years ago
So As a Rookie in the subject, you have to know that you can't change my ideas or thoughts couse truth is always the truth not an ideology
Janissary1991 3 years ago
As a Rookie in the subject, you have to know that you can't change my ideas or thoughts couse truth is always the truth not an ideology Before masturbating at home, ask this quastion to yourself: "Why does Turkey spend 2,5 times more money on Army than Greece?" And You know, We spend 2,5 times more on Arms although we get the weapons cheaper than you do couse we produce them more than you and we buy them from USA for lower prices...
Janissary1991 3 years ago
Aour pilots use the JHMCS system [you now that system? propably not].
sailorkostas 3 years ago
Yeah I know that system but not from books like you.and not Expos :D And Sorry your comments are too wrong to correct... some wrong numbers and wrong info about Turkish Military Units Quality...
Janissary1991 3 years ago
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metekhan22 3 years ago
We have 330 jets mongol and far more advance,and A.W.A.C.S. too.
sailorkostas 3 years ago
And better armor units and much more.
sailorkostas 3 years ago
We want technology no numbers
sailorkostas 3 years ago
hail greece!!!!
sailorkostas 3 years ago
I won't write this again...
Hellenic Air Force Has:
122 F-16C/D Block 30/40/52+
43 Dassault Mirage 2000
50 F-4 Phantom 2(7 Retired in 2008)
15 A-7 Corsair(30 Retiring in end of 2009)
Janissary1991 3 years ago
YOU ARE TOTALY RONG
sailorkostas 3 years ago
And far more advanced with what? 20 Block 52+? Turkish Air Force upgraded their 246 F-16 to Block 50+ Standards with Turkish CCIP projects made by TAI. Turkish Jets are supported by 6 KC-135 Tankers which is someting you don't have. By the way Can you show me a Greek Jet more advanced than F-35? Your only unit that can realize F-35 is
S-300 which have a range less than
AGM-84 carried by Turkish Jets.
Janissary1991 3 years ago
You have 4 EMB-145 Awacs while we have 6 B-737-700 AEW&C MESA Awacs which is faar more advanced than EMB-145. Turkish Airforce is superior to Hellenic Air Force with it's Fighter Jets, Refueling Capabilities, Intelligence Units and Electronic Warfare Capabilities.
Only subject in which HAF is superior is Anti Aircraft Systems.
Janissary1991 3 years ago
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sailorkostas 3 years ago
--Which Armor Units? Turkish Army has 4500 Tanks while Greek Army has 1460. Turkish Army has 11 100 Armor Units while Greek Army has 4400. Our Tanks are more than all your Armored Units.
--Your Leopard 2A6 is better than Our Leopard 2A4 I accept it. But what about our M-60T against your M-60A3 or our Leopard 1T against your Leopard 1A5? Turkish M-60 and Leopard 1 Tanks are superior to yours.
Janissary1991 3 years ago
By the way Turkish Invention and Production Altai Tank is superior than your German made Leopard 2A6. Altai Tank is the product of Turkish OTOKAR Company with Technology Transfer from Korean K-2 Tank. Turkish OTOKAR Company will produce 1000 Altai Tank in 2011. 1000 Altai Tank against your 170 Leopard 2A6...
Janissary1991 3 years ago
Let's skip to Armor Units;
6700 Turkish APC against 2900 Greek APC. Turkish FNNS Pars, Turkish FNNS Akıncı, Turkish FNNS ZPT Turkish Otokar Cobra, Turkish Otokar Yavuz... Pars, Akıncı and Cobra were chosen the best APC in the world with German Puma APC, German Fennek APC and English Warrior APC in 3 Expos made in Germany, England and Turkey(IDEF). Number of Pars, Akıncı and Cobra is 2700 Total. 2700 of worlds best APCs.
And What does Greece have? ELBO Leonidas, ELBO Kentaurus...
Janissary1991 3 years ago
12 Greek AH-64D against 41 Turkish
AH-1W Super Cobra plus 51 Turkish Invention and Production T-129 Assault Helicopter which is proved to be the most agile Assault Helicopter in the World after RAH-66 Commance. It has the half weight of Apache although it has 2 1350 HP motors.
Janissary1991 3 years ago
You want Technology, We have Technology.
"We haven't met defeat, But Our Rage met the edge" Chieftain TimurLenk
Janissary1991 3 years ago
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sailorkostas 3 years ago
GREEK ARMED FORCES IS BY FAR BETTER
sailorkostas 3 years ago
By their what? 4500 Armor Units? 230 Jets? 90000 Frontline Personell? 9 Billion Dolars Millitary Budget? Better than Turkish Army with 11100 Armor Units, 490 Jets, 1 Million Frontline Personell and 30 Billion Dolars Military Budget, Eh??? Don't believe the guys in the church. They said the same 556 years ago but It's Turks living in Istanbul not Greeks...
Janissary1991 3 years ago
nice army
i hope that idiots like metekhan22 not in the army
sharbatov 3 years ago
:D Actually they aren't hostile to anyone without a reason but they get angry quickly. It is a turkish habit to get mad quickly :D
Janissary1991 3 years ago
Yes I know that
I love turkie
My mother home leng is a Turkish
But my problem is that Turks don't check twice
And some Turks ( like user metekhan22) are antisametic and anticristian
I know that it's only small amunt of peaple
mobiletrade 3 years ago
It's about education...
Janissary1991 3 years ago
I hope even with Turkey building their own weapons Turkey and the United States will remain friends. In my 24 years in the U.S. Navy I visited Turkey many times and found everyone friendly and I always felt welcomed. One of the better countries to visit. Oh and Izmir was probably the cleanest big city I have ever seen.
ingledude 3 years ago 6
it is the strongest army in europe and now terroist can ever take over turkey!
dogeguy 3 years ago
Which City did they take over can you count me? Only thing they do is hiding in the mountains. Terrorism can't be finished with Military Power, it can be finished with education and the right political moves. US army controlls Afghanistan but still couldn't catch Osama Bin Laden even with NATO support. We cought the leader of PKK so is Turkish Army stronger than US Army?
Janissary1991 3 years ago
Im an albanian army officer and i wish to express my respect for the turkish army. Keep it stong and use it against the politicans and the islamic idiots. Keep in mind that great man of Mustafa Qemal Pasha and dont forget his legacy.
MaoTceTung 3 years ago 2
Thanks for Advice My Friend. It's good to see some European Countries at our back. They All try to bring us down you know...
Janissary1991 3 years ago
is Turkey a United States allie?
Ronix248 3 years ago
yes it is :)
morlaixxx 3 years ago 2
I thought they where since they use american manufactured aircraft.
Thats Good :)
Ronix248 3 years ago
It won't last long. I mean the AirCraft not Alliance. We are producing everyweapon with our own technology at the moment except transport helicopter and jets. %90 Our Weapons were American in 1994 and only %15 of them are American Now...
Janissary1991 3 years ago
nice
Turkwarriorforever 3 years ago
Turkish Armed Forces is the second largest standing armed force in NATO, after the U.S. Armed Forces. Not second strongest. Largest is not always strongest. I time of cold war USSR had about 3 time more solders but still USA has been considered to be stronger.
projekt81 3 years ago
Largest isn't always the strongest but this time it is. That's becouse Turkish Army isn't only large, but also well equipped and is trained perfectly prooved in NATO competitions and battles. By the way the 2 countries were considered to have the same strenght since they both had enough nuclear weapons to end the life on earth.
Janissary1991 3 years ago
@Janissary1991
süpersin kardesim!
ama bu müzik hic olmadi.
yinede güzel bu video ve digerlerin´de ayni sekilde =)
sonosmanli89 3 years ago 2
Mükemmel vidyolar yapıyorsun Janissary.Müziklerde iyi
1stCanberk 3 years ago
Great, i like your videos
İ m turkish soldier too
bordobereliTSK 3 years ago 2
really good thnks to your handsss
ercan2006 3 years ago
offfffff bu ney yaaa cok guzel olmus:)
erenovic66 3 years ago
BOMB, BOMB SERBIA!
SABLJA89 3 years ago 2
2:42 is perfect! :)
Long live Turkey!
Long live Azerbaijan!
AZE033 3 years ago 7
ThAnks
bekovichius 3 years ago
Güzel olmuş. Ellerine sağlik!
CTStyles31 3 years ago
gulze olmus eline saglik
orhanjudas 3 years ago
Gaza geldim :D
Ne Mutlu Türküm Diyene...
okzusu 3 years ago
What kind of bombing is the one at 0:46?
hakan91 3 years ago
ALLAH TÜRKLERI TÜRKIYEYI korusun!
yaa biz TÜRKÜZ iste, kim cikabilir karsimiza!!
TÜRK milleti en serefli en üstün millettir, herkes bunu beynine iyi yerlestirsin!!!
tek bir TÜRK dünyaya bedel!!!
61mmet 3 years ago 2
evet güzel olmus
Turks are Warriors.............
Turkwarriorforever 3 years ago 2
awesome
greeting from Morocco
AlHarasAlAsewad 3 years ago 6
Great Army, great video!
TTK!
Barbarospascha 3 years ago
Great army!!TTK!
HunRia 3 years ago
Güzel Olmuş.Ellerinize sağlık
yhkan 3 years ago
her video sunu favorite lere ekledigim tek insan =) mutis olmus her zamanki gibi
denizhamamcioglu 3 years ago
:D Eyvallah
Janissary1991 3 years ago
süper video olmuş bana bu parçanın adını söylermisin bende kullanmayı düşünüyorum :)
CrazySinan 3 years ago 3
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Janissary1991 3 years ago
Allah Turku Korusun
TURK1SHPRIDE 3 years ago
Harika
semtbizimaskbizim 3 years ago