The Mark of the Beast Conspiracy Theory Part 1 of 3

[1xThreeDaysGrace1x]

Dude look up FOODSTAMPS there about to start MICROCHIPPING.. A MARK U HAVE TO HAVE OR U CANT BUY OR SELL ITS A CHIP!!

[Jondadon2006]

@1xThreeDaysGrace1x

I believe that the chip will have a part to play but the mark of the beast is not a computer chip. IT has to be the opposite of those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus

[acmad17]

Saba mo bahhhh...

[nofearinlove418]

can someone go to hell if they think Sunday is the sabbath ?

did Saturday die for my sins ?

am I justified by keeping the 10 commandments or by faith in Jesus Christ

Read romans 4:5

[Jondadon2006]

@nofearinlove418

No one goes to hell if they THINK what they are doing is right. The Bible makes it clear that those who don't know the truth are not condemned. That is out of God's character.

No Sabbath didn't die for your sins. Christ died for your sins because the law of was broken so would we want to continue to break His law knowing that it put our saviour on the cross?

Rom 2:13  (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.)

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[Jondadon2006]

@nofearinlove418

Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith WITHOUT works is dead also.

We don't do works to be saved, works is the result OF your faith.

If I love God (faith), I will keep His commandments (works)

If I believe He is coming again (faith), I'll go and tell everyone (works)

Rom 14:23 "... for whatsoever is not of faith is sin."

[Jondadon2006]

There is no arguement that God wants us to keep His commandments. Sin is breaking God's law. (1 Jn 3:4)

1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye SIN NOT. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Thats why Rev 14:12 says

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God (works), and the faith of Jesus (faith).

Faith and works made perfect.

Hope this brings conviction

[nofearinlove418]

@Jondadon2006

I challenge you to to answer my question with a yes or no

is the person who work not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly have faith that is counted for righteousness ?

meditate on that one if you love God's true word of faith alone

NO secret hidden gospel of work is in my message

[Jondadon2006]

@nofearinlove418

Of course I believe that. I answered that in my comment to you

[nofearinlove418]

@Jondadon2006 I challenge you to to answer my question with a yes or no

is the person who work not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly have faith that is counted for righteousness ?

[Jondadon2006]

@nofearinlove418

You asked it again I said:

"Of course I believe that. I answered that in my comment to you"

[nofearinlove418]

@Jondadon2006 but can you have saving faith if you do not work but believe in the one who JUSTIFIES THE UNGODLY!!!!

[Jondadon2006]

@nofearinlove418

Wait...if that is the question you are bringing out of that verse then the answer is No because the saving faith you have automatically works

[Jondadon2006]

@nofearinlove418

I understand where you are cming from but I believe you are getting confused with this verse because this verse is talking of the distinction of faith and works as two separate entities, not faith by works

[nofearinlove418]

@Jondadon2006 but can you have saving faith if you do not work but believe in the one who JUSTIFIES THE UNGODLY!!!! am I wrong or is God just the author of confusion by giving us Romans 4:1-8?

[Jondadon2006]

@nofearinlove418

This is why we need to study not just one point but all points to get an overall answer because the Bible also says faith without works is dead and Romans talks of faith and works in the CONTEXT of justification.

Romans is talking about works and faith in justification. You cannot work to be justified by God because it is His gift. The works and faith made perfect in James is talking about those who say they are Christ but their works don't show

[nofearinlove418]

@Jondadon2006 does the man who doesn't work but believes in God have faith that is counted as righteousness ? or should this verses just be highlighted with a sharpy

[Jondadon2006]

@nofearinlove418

Like I said, study the context. Read the whole chapter to get the context or you will run with this verse and leave out the rest of the Bible which is highly dangerous

[nofearinlove418]

@Jondadon2006 The bible is not confusing and its make its plain and clear for the simptons to understand

you doctrine is not an open catholic doctrine but it is a hidden gospel of works

[Jondadon2006]

@nofearinlove418

Are you even readying my replies or do what want to hear what you want to hear? Thats a preconceived mind. So I will say it clearly one more time.

Romans 4 = Your works don't justify you but faith

James 2 = You can believe all you want but if your works prove it, your faith is dead.

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Jas 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

[Jondadon2006]

I hope this makes more sense, otherwise all I can leave with you is, when studying the Bible, always study the context. Especially with Pauls writings which even Peter said can be hard to understand and it can lead to your own destruction.

Here is what it says

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[Jondadon2006]

"...even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction" 2Pe 3:15, 16

So I hope my comment made sense or like I said, make sure you are studying the Bible in context

[btuck2]

The remnant is the israelites scatter through out the world, left few in number, who wiil be saved, on the great and terrible day- Micah 5:7, Isaiah 10:21, Romans 9:27, Deuteronomy 28:62, 64

[Lysimachus78]

@btuck2

Yes, and that "remnant" of Israel is only "spiritually discerned" 1 Cor 2:14, and are not the "Israel of the flesh" 1 Cor 10:18. It won't be fleshly Jews, it will be Spiritual Jews, regardless of their ethnicity. Romans 2:29. "In this manner, ALL Israel shall be saved" Romans 11:26. The rest of the Protestant World will be looking for Israel after the flesh, not spiritually discerning what is happening around the world. God bless btuck. :)

[btuck2]

Spiritually?

* Has god cast away his people? God forbid( That means no)- Romans 11:1.

* If heaven can be measured, and the earth searched beneath, I will cast off the seed of Israel for what they have done to me- Jeremiah 31:37.

* My kinsmen according to the flesh, who are israelites, to whom pertains the adoption, the glory, (all) the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of god, and (all) the promises- Romans 9:4

* Israel is the only family god Knows- Amos 3:2

[btuck2]

1 cor 2:14;

The Natural man is Carnal- Romans 8:7-8

The spirit is the word- John 6:63

The Law is what is spiritual- Romans 7:14

The carnal man can not recieve the words of god, it is foolishness to him. Neither can he know them because it is of gods law. (15) but he that knows gods law judges all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. (16) For who has known the mind of the lord, that he may instruct his servent? but we have the mind of christ.

[TheOliveTrees]

Search the scripture. There is only one mark that God showed concern with. There is only one mark that God told His people to heed and remember. There is only one way anyone was ever marked on their head or hand. And there is only one mark God said was unclean. There is only one mark that God told His priest to check for in the skin of the children of Israel. Is the fourth beast (kingdom) marked with this mark? And have they lifted it up to be received and made an image to it to be worship?

[TheOliveTrees]

The ten horns (kings/nations) have like minds and conspire together (Rev 17:13); they carry a woman (counterfiet Israel, Church or Christianity); gain control of the world economy (buy or sell); make war with the saints (Dan.7:25, Rev. 7:7-8); think to change the law and time of God or sabbath); the little horn (young nation) is stronger or more powerful and subdue three of the ten horns/nations. The little horn looks like a lamb and speak like a dragon or is a false prophet (Rev 13:10-11)

[TheOliveTrees]

The fourth or last beast (kingdom) with ten horns (kings) and little horn (young nation) will put Christ to death and will be on the earth at the second coming of Christ. The fourth beast (kingdom) is the Roman Empire. It will split becoming the Roman Empire or Holy Roman Empire. And ten nations with kings will arise out of them and roam the earth devouring and breaking into pieces. Satan gave the ten horns their power and great authority (Rev. 12:3 & Rev 13:1-2). They are antichrist.

[TheOliveTrees]

"Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon the earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tead it down, and break it in pieces. And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings." Daniel 7:23-24 & Dan 2:31-45).

[TheOliveTrees]

Before we can uncover the mark we must identify the beast? Who or what is the beast? In the book of Daniel 7:23, God said that the beast is a kingdom. The fourth or last beast is a kingdom. Therefore, we are looking for the mark of the kingdom? Who is the fourth beast (kingdom) with ten horns (kings/kingdoms) and little horn (young nation)? What is the last beast (kingdom) marked with? Are they marked with anything that God warned or showed concern for?

[Verlch]

Could you imagine if all the rfid implants, in all humans, that can control what they buy and sell. Had speakers in them, hooked to a central computer, that blasphemed God day and night? How is God supposed to dwell in us? As our bodies are the temple of God.

And they want to force those into us? For what? To stop the swine flu? To stop terrorists? Both are things they world government can create, for a reaction that they want in the end?

[Verlch]

[15] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

[16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

[Verlch]

[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

See the word "in"? and the stigma, or chip goes "in" the right hand, and it can be swiped like the card reader and you can buy things with it. They say taht if you don't do what you are told, they can simply turn off the chip and they won't be able to buy or sell.

I don't see how a sunday law can stop buying and selling.

[Jondadon2006]

My friend you have already held on to what you believe so we have to agree to disagree. I have told you the Beast is the Papacy, their Mark is making of non effect the Sabbath which identifies the sign of the creative power of God, showing the creator. Did this happen in Daniel? Yes Babylons Mark was idol worship and there was a remnant who kept the Law of God above the law of man. The controversey is about WHO you worship, not a chip.

Read verse 15 because you missed it.......

[Jondadon2006]

"And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not WORSHIP the image of the beast should be killed."

Nothing about those who can't buy and sell will be killed but who don't *worship*. Dan & Rev must be studied together or we will get mixed ideas. I did a video on where buying and selling comes in but I tell you this:

The Mark of the Beast is not a chip, it is forced sunday worship. Please watch the vids

[Verlch]

So you would have no problem sticking a chip in you, with a base code of 666? That the Anti Christ could track your every movement with, figure out where all the humans are, and use it to exterminate Christians and atheists alike? And God fearing Jews.

You have no problem with forced implantation into your right hand, or into your brain. Under penalty of death. Because there is "no" way that could be the mark of the beast, right?

Because EGW said so right?

[Verlch]

Talk about EGW blinders, think man, think.

[Verlch]

This reminds me of this rapture nonsense. The idea that Christians will be whisked away, and not have to endure the time of jacobs trouble.

I don't think so. The Bible isn't clear on that also. It is just one man's interpretation of certain verses. This is going to be painful for Christians because if they are left behind, they are going to think they are lost.

I think most of us will get raptured via the gullotine.

[TheOliveTrees]

We agree that the mark of the beast is not a verichip, microchip, national ID or RDIF because God does not mention it. Give us the scripture were God said that the beast is the papacy. God said that the beast is a kingdom (Daniel 7:23). The fourth beast kingdom with ten horns (kings) and a little horn Daniel 7:7-8. Satan appears having ten horns (kings) and seven heads (seven mountains/city of roman/papacy) Revelation 12:3, Revelation 13:1-3, Revelation 17:3,9,18).

[Verlch]

So are you saying Jordan, that is the implanted RFID chip is implanted in all humans on the earth. And if we don't take it, the penalty is death. And we have to take it by force if necessary.

You don't have a problem taking it, because Sunday law is the mark? Tell us please so that we may understand your 1800's way of thinking.

[Jondadon2006]

no way of thinking just study the Bible line upon line, comparing scripture with scripture

[jsmid]

I understand what your saying about the 3 Hebrew men in the book of Daniel.

The mark has to be physical because the bible says

Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand. I do believe you will get the mark if you stand up for Christ, But I don't believe its in the day Saturday.

[Jondadon2006]

Its not only the day, there is a principle that comes with the Sabbath. If it can be proven that it is a physical mark in Daniel, then it is but the cause was based on the law of God or the law of the beast. I did a reply on the buy and sell

[Verlch]

Enough of this rapture stuff, enough of this SDA sunday law EGW rubbish, enough of this Christ, the One everybody is looking for.

Let's look for the real One(not the earth bound counterfeit one), the real Christ, Jesus Christ of Nazareth to come back a second time in the clouds with great power and glory. Every eye shall see Him, and all His angels with Him!

Get ready for the gulag.

[Jondadon2006]

Thats the same Jesus we are promoting but Christ does say there will be a time of trouble before He comes so it is not rubbish to warn of what it to come my friend. There is a trying time. There will be two classes. Mark of the Beast, Seal of God. Wheat and Tares. Commandment breakers and commandment keepers. Warning of what is to come is not rubbish my friend.

[Verlch]

No but basing your idea on EGW is rubbish. I'm not saying the Anti Christ couldn't make a Sunday law, but don't let the fact the RFID can be implanted "in" every man, slave and free man on the planet. I think the Greek is Stigma.

Def Stigma, and there are more, a mark or spot on the skin.

thefreedictionary . com/stigma

how can a Sunday law stop somebody from buying or selling? A chip under the skin, or a stigma, to track ones movement, in a cashless, goldless, system could and will.

[Verlch]

She is extra biblical and there is no truth in her. Do not fear here. Fear God. Put your faith in the Bible. That is all we have to do.

[Jondadon2006]

My friend I can explain what I believe from the Bible just by following down the line of Prophecy so I don't know why you have a problem especially when Gods last day church will have the Spirit of Prophecy. If you follow the Bible, you would know this

[Verlch]

The Bible doesn't say anything about a sunday law being the mark of the beast. And I'm not going to put my faith in this woman, who didn't get anything right on her prophecies.

Do you not have a problem putting something man made into your body? When our bodies are the temple of God?

Are you saying that you have no problem following forced implantation when the time comes?

Do you really want that much power falling into the hands of a tyrant, despot, or dictator?

[Jondadon2006]

My friend watch the whole 3 parts and see if I used a single quote from EGW

[Verlch]

So what is the mark of the beast then? to you? EGW says it will be the Sunday law, and it will not be. Teh Bible doesn't say it will be. But perhaps the Anti Christ will make a sunday law. After all a lot of sun woship does happen on that day. And the devil will try and get us to worship everything but God.

Of all the things you see out there, what do you think it is?

[Jondadon2006]

My friend just because EGW White says it, does it mean that it will not happen? EGW says that Jesus is God. Is she wrong?

My friend it matters not what I think it is because my thoughts are foolishness in Gods eyes. I have to go on a plain thus sayeth the Lord. I have given a Biblical presentation and it is clealy concluded that the Mark is enforced sunday worship. The Princple is not a sunday law but rebellion against Gods clear word no matter how small it may seem to us like the Sabbath issue

[Jondadon2006]

God says 7th, why are we rebelling choosing the Beast commandments? Thats why those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus (Rev 14:12) are known as the Remnant as they still hold on to Gods word no matter how small some regard it. Do you see the imperativeness of this? If God says stand on one leg, although it is not relative, He would probably test you to see if you would actually obey him while other people are bound to question, why on one leg? God speaks and we obey. Period

[Verlch]

Can you show my which verse in the Bible specifies sunday worship as being the mark of the beast?

Don't you think that is doing much to divide the body of Christ instead of unifying us?

The only one that clearly concludes anything of the sort is EGW. And I have zero percent faith in her.

Jesus is the Son of God. God the father is the head, and the man is the head of the woman. You would be hard pressed to find a scripture that states that Jesus is equal with God.

[Verlch]

The Bible says and it will be put in the right hand, or in the forehead. They have brain chipping, probably eye chipping, and they put the RFID chip "in" your right hand. And they say we can't buy or sell without it!

EGW is buried under an Obelisk, told us to read new age sources, was wrong on almost all of her prophecies. There is no truth in here! And I'm SDA. Or non EGW believing Bible based Christian.

Don't be fooled by her, there is NO truth in her.

[Verlch]

And don't block me please.

I'm a bible based Christian.

Now I am not saying the RFID chip is the Mark. I'm saying that the man who invented the bar code that goes on almost all products embedded in it the No. 666 as the base code. He admits this, but says there is nothing sinister about it. Please confirm this story for me.

But the RFID chip is the closest thing I have seen. Now vaccines are being forced it looks like and I have heard there are computer chips in some batches.

[Verlch]

The Bible says for some people every day is church. ANd that we shouldn't judge people on what day they worship, what food they eat, and what they drink.

Leave the Judging up to God.

I think the Anti Christ could make us worship him on Sunday to spite God. What is the point? The devil will be here and he will demand worship, or he will kill us. What better way to track atheists and Christians than with a computer chip, that controls what we buy or sell, and can track our every movement?

[tuffythetiger]

Jesus never sold the word(cassettes, videos, DVD, any literature).If you don't want to be deceive believe the word of God.Don't study the word to scrutinize preachers, study it to be right with God.Stay away from New age teachings(Law of attraction)a demonic doctrine to create self sufficient and false independence . L.OA practitioners don't thank God they thank the universe.

[tuffythetiger]

I personally don't believe that a Christian should be rich and living in mansions and driving real expensive cars.The world is in too much need for a Christian to be rich and not share.Readmathew19:16-28.Anyon­e who sells anything that has to do with God or their ministry is wrong before God.Don't put your trust in man. Don't look for perfect people seek his word.

[KIKEYANO]

the goverment is planing to microship all of us, will u then get chipped?

find the truth, u can research this

[patienceprence]

The Adventist believe the mark of the beast is worshipping Jesus on Sunday....

Because Ellen G. White said so! It is totally not in the Bible.

Rev 13, # of a man, his name, his mark(?) or the number of his name equals 666. Who knows what his MARK will be? We do know It will be in the hand or forehead because it says so!

Blessings my friend!

Patience Prence Author "Scars" A novel about the last days

[Jondadon2006]

who is the beast? papacy

whats their mark? changing the word of God to the word of man

Is this against Gods law? Remember the 7th day not 1st day

Did I answer from EGW? No Bible

If man cannot keep a simple straight testimony, how will He obey the bigger?

[patienceprence]

Jon,

SDAs have twisted scripture to fit Ellen G Whites false prophecies.  Scripture does not say the first beast is Papacy. SDA say because pope name in Latin equals 666, it is the beast. Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek therefore the beasts name will be Hebrew or Greek Gemetria, NOT LATIN! And besides the Bible says HIS NAME, not title for a pope.

You cannot buy or sell unless you have the mark IN YOUR HAND-- It's NOT worshipping Jesus on Sunday--

[Jondadon2006]

im working on a part two on the buy and sell because alot or people are looking as if that is the mark. The buy and sell is the benefits you get in receiving the Mark. It is not the mark it self. The controversy is not of a computer chip, thats deception. It is about who you worship. The Bible makes it so clear. The WORSHIPED the image

[rickydepths1]

Atleast someone is trying to explain Revelation to people.

Since you have wisdom please share.

What is the BEAST?

What is the WHORE OF BABYLON?

What is the IMAGE OF THE BEAST?

What is the MARK OF THE BEAST?

Here is the one stipulation. Use the Bible and History to prove your point.

[patienceprence]

Hi Ricky,

All of the questions you have asked is addressed on my website: google "Patience Prence." But I will message you with the info you requested.

[Jondadon2006]

It is up. Buying and selling

[kingdomknowledge]

Excellent explanation my brother. You are gifted. Keep doing what you're doing. Blessings.

[koolguy1472]

Amen brother. GBU in Jesus.

[Sledgearts]

hello my friend. It's me Sledge. I'm no longer in Philippines. I've just moved recently to Canada. Have you heard about Battlefield Hollywood. It's an Adventist Seminar with the youth. And they talked about how hollywood movies are used by the enemy to teach his message. And it's a bold bold warning for the youth and for everybody. Check it out. Godspeed my friend.

[Jondadon2006]

Hi there brother S. Long time no speak, I hope all is well with you. I will surely check that one out. I hope you are enjoying the life in canada. I need to visit up there again, its been along time for me lol. God bless and thanks for the recommendation

[Jondadon2006]

thats not what the Bible says. Let the Bible interpet. please watch your language

[paulgem123]

The commandment of God;

Mitvoth H# 4687

Chukkim H# 2706

Misphatim H# 4941

HEAR -Shema H# 8085 as in Deut 6:4 & Mark 12:29-31

Torah- "Devine Instruction" from YHWH to Moshe - John 5:45-47 More than Ten" "devine instruction" on how to live.

Hallelu-YAH to YAH-WEH buy His Son Yah+Shua (Jeusus) = Yah-IS- SALVATION

[BakersBoyz]

Rambling gibberish.... Get with the program...

[paulgem123]

Rambling gibberish.......What program do you want me to get with?

[BakersBoyz]

nothing personal ... look at the star of david my friend ...

[paulgem123]

I think it is personal, I think you are against Jews and anything that is Jewish

[BakersBoyz]

Typical anti-semantic hoigwash. How is the star of david jewish, do your research my brother.

[paulgem123]

House of Israel = Church

[Jondadon2006]

After 34AD according to the 70week Prophecy in Daniel 9, God rejected Israel as a Nation but they can still be saved individually. In the NT God established the church.

"For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; "

Eph 5:23-25

[Jondadon2006]

You can also read Romans 11, Romans 2:28,29 and Gal 3:28-29

[paulgem123]

To read these verses solidifies my case. House of Israel is - the remnant. The gentiles are grafted into and should not boast and claim that God did away and lied about His promise to restore that house of Israel.

[paulgem123]

Mathew 15:24 "House of Israel". The replacement theology is a Greek invention sprouted from Anti-semite theology. Check your history friend. Do studies on early churchmen like Marcion, Tetullian, Ignatius of antioch. Today is Shavuot do you celebrate that in your Greek church? No, because it is a Feast of the God of Israel for the people that follow His commandments. Not traditions of the church. like Matt 15;1-9

[Jondadon2006]

hope you understand

[paulgem123]

I understand completely/ You follow a Christo- Pagan practice that says only the Ten Commandments apply to the church today, You celebrate Sabbath- but throw away the Feasts of the LORD in place of Christmas and Easter, YOU say the the law of Moses is done away with yet your pastors want to "keep the tithes" Your church likes to point the finger at Catholic church as the Anti-Christ and you partake in the some of the same sin by the above....Yes I think I do understand. House of Israel remains

[Jondadon2006]

I take it you don't understand then

1. The feast days were not Part of the Ten Moral Commandments. They were ordinances, nailed to the cross. If you want to keep them, its up to you (Romans 14)

2. There will be wheat and Tares everywhere. Christians should not practice xmas and Easter being pagan days

3. Regarding Tithes Will a man rob God? Thou shalt not steal. Tithe was before Exodus. Abraham paid tithe, Jacob paid tithe. Christ talks on tithe Matthew 23:23

[Jondadon2006]

And then of course youve read in Malachi, the last book of the Old Testament, God promises to open the Windows of Heaven for those who pay their Tithe.

Why would God say that in the last book of the Old Testament you turn the page to Matthew and say well I dont need to worry about this anymore?

[Jondadon2006]

4. We don't point at the Papacy, the Bible does that. We are merely just telling the people about Bible Prophecy. We also don't take part in their sins. Do we keep sunday? say that you burn forever and need to pay for your friend to come out or purgatory? Do we pray to Mary, keep SUNday, worship idols? etc No we don't so I am not fimilar with what you mean by taking part in their sins.

Israel as inidividuals, but Israel as a nation. Waiting for Christ's 1st Advent.

Daniel 9:24-27, Acts 7

[paulgem123]

God also said in the last Book of the OT Remember the law of Moses. If you read from Malachai 4:1 -6 you will see that it is referring to the end times and in 4:5 Behold I will send you Elijah. What will Elijah do? His main purpose is to restore observance to Torah. By the way in the Hebrew Scriptures 2 Chronicles is the last book of the OT.

[Jondadon2006]

Well the part of Elijah, I have a different view on that.

[paulgem123]

I know you do because you have been taught a certain way. But notice the plain language and the order of the text. Remeber the law of Moses and the next verse is Elijah. also see Rev 15:3 And they will sing the song of Moses. Who will sing? The ones that kept the law of Moses and over come. I know SDA's have a Elijah message and a 3 angels message. See Zech 8:23 they will take hold of the Skirt (TZiT TZIT of the prayer shawl) of the Jew also in the last days. Why do they over look these verses?

[Jondadon2006]

It is not actually me being taught in a certain way. I weigh the evidence and let the Holy Spirit lead. This can't be talking about literal Elijah. Was John the baptist literal Elijah? no. John the baptist came in the spirit of Elijah

[Jondadon2006]

But thats another subject in it self.

Now this is what I don't on your view. The tithes were way before Moses and before the ceremonials. Tithe is with the Moral code in principle of thou shalt not steal.

Marriage is a principle in the moral code thou shalt not commit adultery

Hating, gossiping, Health laws (eating wrong food is killing the body) is a principle in the moral code of thou shalt not kill

So if the Bible clearly says will a man Rob God, not returning tithe is still robbing God

[paulgem123]

Friend, Do you own a Strongs Concordanced? Look up Jugments, Statues, you will see that both means ordinances. The fFeast of the LORD Found in Lev 23 says 3 X forever, what is unclear about that? Tithes- if you say all the commandment we have to keep in the TEN them why do they add this one. YAHshua is speaking of the correct tithe in Matt 23:23 of the first friuts paid to the the Levitical priest because there was still a Temple in those days. Animal sacrifices continued till 70AD.

[Jondadon2006]

The strongs concordance does not deal with line upon line precept upon precept. It states what the word mean but you need to study the Bible to gather the context. Col 2:14 says handwriting of ordinances. What happened when Christ died? the temple was rent from top to bottom which shew the ceremonial practices finished

The Ten Commandments are the Standard of righteousness. The bible says will a man rob God? thats known as stealing.

[Jondadon2006]

if you look at the principle are you saying we need not support the church and the ministers? Like I said in last book of the OT it says I will pour you out a blessing. Has that stopped?

Matt 23:23 says that the pharisees did one thing but neglected the other.

Also look at the laws of Health in Lev 11. What has it in connection with the Law? If things are unclean, will they bring goodness or harm to the body? Harm. so if you eat the wrong thing, you are killing the body.

Thou shalt not kill

[paulgem123]

So you don't have one? Strongs concordance although it is slanted to a Greek understanding allows us to see the root of the original word which is crucial if you want proper understanding. Colossians 2:4 is referring to our sin debt that was nail to the cross. History tells us that the animals sacrifices continued till 70 AD Act 21 Nazirite vow from Nubers 6:13-18. Man Robs God that's a OT reference you say ony the TEN are to be followed, Remember.

[Jondadon2006]

Yes only the Ten are to be followed. If God is commanding, anything else besides the Ten Commandments, that it still heeding to thou shalt have no other gods. That is why when eve was told she would be like God, it ment for her to disobey. So in principle she broke that commandment. When you say no to God, that is putting yourself above God, making Self a god.

You are right about Acts 21 but does that mean we have to do that too? Because Paul says let no man judge in Romans 14 and Col 2:16?

[paulgem123]

I would like to respectfully challenge you on "we should only keep the TEN" Read Exodus 20 to 24:3-8 notice something very interesting. The LORD YHWH did not make covenant till Exodus 24:8 Why? Why did he make covenant with blood right after he gave the TEN? Read it carefully, then answer.

[Jondadon2006]

Id like to know your view on when God said should a man Rob God, is that no longer to be kept? Are we robbing God? I dont understand as God says He changeth not.

What is your view on this?

[paulgem123]

Ok, in Malachai 3:8 the words are clear. But you have to know culture and the sacraficial system. In Temple times the Priest got the tithe it was MEAT, e-phah of fine flour mostly. because this was there only means of support. In non Temple times (like today) it is not required to tithe becaquse there are no Levites or Temple BUT, it is OK to give a love offering or gift to the your church but it is not mandatory and you are not robbing God. You can also give to the poor and widow. TEN + ONE =11

[Jondadon2006]

But like I was saying, and as you said in supporting, in principle, are we not to provide for the ministers? How are they going to survive if we don't support them? What do you think?

[paulgem123]

Well, Paul was a tent maker (actualy Prayer shawls which are considered tents) And it is OK to give to your church and your church should be giving back to the poor, windows, people in need in your church. I have heard to many stories of people giving for years and they gat in a situation where they are in need and the church deny them . this is wrong.

[Jondadon2006]

That is wrong but my church has set things in a way that the pastors are supported and help for the needy with organisations such as ADRA etc.

Paul was a tent maker yes but that job was not to further the gospel. It was a trade. What the ministers are doing is for the sake of the gospel and tithe fits in this principle and if in Matt 23:23, Christ is not dismissing tithe, we can't forsake it. It has to be organised as God is a God of order.

[paulgem123]

You could be right, but that would mean you just added to the Ten Commandments. Do you see the contradiction? The Ten are sacred I agree. In Hebrew there are statues, judgments, and commandments all are to be followed (those that apply to you). Also the dietary laws in Lev 11 SDA's believe them and follow them, Why? They are not in the TEN. Either we look to follow and understand all or we pick and choose what instruction we want. This is wrong! God's Torah is forever settled in Heaven.

[Jondadon2006]

Well health laws were not an ordinance. What I am trying to say is that the Ten Commandments are the Standard. What ever happens, what ever God commandments or doesn;t command, the Ten will always be followed. Thats why we don't have a forbidden fruit to be tested with.

So if God is commanding Health laws it is because of an effect (the flood destroyed the veg). So it is not really picking and choosing as the commandments contained in ordinances were nailed.

[Jondadon2006]

In the time of trouble, tithe won't be an issue because when persecution and all that happens, we may even be in groups fleeing etc.

But tithe is to further the gospel and for the work of the Lord. That is what it is used for and so if we no longer need to return tithe, that means there is no need to support the gospel today.

Tithe is also for spiritual growth teaching us not to be selfish. Anyone can give gift but they also don't choose to. Tithe is a test to see your condition with money too

[paulgem123]

My friend the health laws can be ordinance/judgments # Mishpatim Judgments Strongs # Hebrew 4941

Justice, judgment; regulation, prescription, specification, that which is lawful, ordinance(s) as required, ceremonies,

[Jondadon2006]

But the health laws were placed strictly because of the flood. The vegetation was destroyed at the flood. Thats why you see Peter refuse to eat anything unclean when He was shown the vision. It was not in place for an ordinance in the sacrificial system. It was only the sacrificial system nailed to the cross.

[paulgem123]

Sacraficial system was not nailed to the cross (our sins were) They continued sacraficing animals till 70AD when the Temple was destroyed.

[Jondadon2006]

who was doing the sacrifices?

[paulgem123]

All Jews and followers of the Mashiach Yahushua. The temple was fully opperational history tells us this. look it up for yourself in on wikapedia. Josephus also wrote about it.

[bozie09]

Truth is truth. The bible IS the ANSWER. thanks for directing all to the WORD OF GOD ALONE. My the Lord richly increase you in wisdom, knowledge and understanding abundantly. peace.

[ArtfulEve]

Great video

[Sicana1992]

I enjoy your videos!

[Sicana1992]

Part 2. Because the mark of the beast is "KKK" no racist can enter the kingdom. The mark of the beast are those who believe the white race is superior. White culture is known for discreimination in commerce and labor which is the reference that those with the mark of the beast would control commerce and exclude non-whites

[Jondadon2006]

my friend remember what this video is about.

The Mark of the Beast Conspiracy Theory

The Bible does not teach it that way. It has given us clear cut evidence that it is against the Law of God just like it was in the Book of Daniel.

Sin is breaking the Law and as it is satans desire to be in a bondage of sin, he was us to be destroyed. We have to look at the depth of WHY the mark of the beast is sunday. Not just say its sunday.

[Sicana1992]

The mark of the beast perhaps is not as dramatic as the conspiracy theorists want. The 666 beast represents Christendom and the trinity doctrine. The mark of the beast has to do with the conversion of 666 to a name. 6+6+6 is the sum of the numbers, but since there is just one number not 3, just the six, 1 is added to 18 to get 19. Psalms 111 shows 19th letter of Hebrew alphabet is Koph, thus "KKK". So the mark of the beast is white supremacy ideas and actions, thus "Affirmative Action."

[deborahbetty58]

Actually, the whore, who rides the beast and sits on many waters (meaning ppls and nations, dominating them) made ALL nations and kings drink from her wine of false doctrines. (Rev. 17:1-4; 18:3).The WHOLE world marvelled and followed the beast (Rev. 13:1-4). The children of Japheth are the last in line to complete the human history, but they will fail like the children of Ham did (Nimrod) and the Children of Shem did before them. Their ancient empires failed

[deborahbetty58]

failed under the exact same political/social/economic/reli­gious/military conditions; as is the case now a days. They did not obey the Creator, neither will the majority in power of the Children of Japheth. In other words, the moral content of a person is not linked to the amount of visible Melanin, nor to gender, nationality or creed. In other words, do not be deceived by appearance, one way or the other. Yah Bless.

[deborahbetty58]

In fact, salvation is only linked to Christ/The Head/Israel, for Yah'shua means; Yah saves/Is our salvation. As the Head identifies the body and the markers of the identity are: 1) having patience to keep the Commandments of Yah, through faith in Jesus the Christ, as He became known to the rest of the world 2) having/bearing the testimony of Jesus the Christ, through the fruit of the Spirit 3) understanding The Spirit of Prophecy, which testify of Jesus. (Rev. 12:17;14:12; 19:10).

[deborahbetty58]

For the Spirit of Prophecy testify of Him. (John 5:39; Luke 24:44), for He Is the Only true Israel that fulfilled/and will fulfill all the prophecies in Scriptures, as they unfold for our very eye.

[mleonyt]

nice job!

[KevZen2000]

The RFID chip conspiracy is the same as before when the social security number was required,which will turn out to be a lie once again.RFID chips will make you more of a slave,but it is not the mark of the beast.With RFID chips and Real ID it will make it possible to track and stop all transactions of the people who have the seal and those who do not go with the New World Order.

[Lysimachus78]

Good job Jondadon!!! =D

[damianplus]

You are correct but what you have to remember is that they will use these systems of control to prevent us from buying and selling once we do not accept the Mark of the Beast which is in essence accepting there false system of worship.

God bless

[Jondadon2006]

Thats another subject on how it will play along with the Mark of the Beast but I see what you mean and I agree with you.

God bless you too

[damianplus]

Yea you should do a clip with that explanation in it you can also check out ktfministry. org/news/441/credit-card-and-b­ank-transactions-watched

remove the space before org

God bless