Dude, neither device runs on a 4G network, Tmos HPSA+ AWS back haul can deliver 42Mb. Iphone4s is hardware limited to 14Mbps...and for hells sake, if you are going to run a side by side, make sure they are connected to the same server. The Samsung had a lock on a server in Kansas, and the iPhone was on an Oklahoma server.
I feel a bit lucky... My average speeds on my Atrix 2 are between 5-7 mbs down. My highest has been 15 down. AT&T claims that HSPA+ can reach up to 21 down.
why does tmobile brand hspa+ 4g because only Wimax release 2 and LTE advanced have made the requirements to be "true" 4g but at the same time only HSPA+ has fast speeds with good battery life
@moosazoras1 First of all I'm not an idiot and I never claimed the 4S is a 4G device. If you notice in the title it says "HSPA+". The only real 4G is LTE and WiMax, and neither the iPhone 4S nor the Exhibit II are 4G, they are both HSPA+
@syko66613 The average consumer believes HSPA+ is 4G because that's what T-Mobile and AT&T tell them. For the sake of time it's easier to go along with that instead of getting into a deep explanation on a simple video. Usually in my videos I will say "4G" if I'm referencing HSPA+
The modem on the phone makes a difference. The Exhibit II is a low end phone which has a 14.4mbps modem. If you take the Galaxy S II and HTC Amaze, they have 42mbps modems, you'll get speeds on par with Verizon's LTE.
The fact of the matter is, t-mobile has faster speeds than all other carriers right now. Period. I have Verizon and t-mobile right now, and my t-mobile speeds are ridiculous. Look at my videos to see my test, it is four times faster than his in the video. But like he said, it's where you live at. Up state, t-mobile bangs out more than 40mbs. I get at the most 25mbs, on my galaxy s 2. Verizon has pretty good speeds, but not the fastest. Look all over YouTube and you can see for yourself.
People need to stop bitching. HSPA+ offers similar user experience in speed, latency, and reliability of an LTE 4g network so that's why its called 4G
@rwalford1979 3G is a mix of circuit and packet switching network while 4G is only a packet switching network. To be able to qualify as a 4G technology, speeds of up to 100Mbps must be reached for a moving user and 1Gbps for a stationary user. HSPA+ tops out at 84Mbps. American operators are misusing the label 4G. So what will they call real 4G when it arrives?
@Dann054 I stand true to what I say above, speed, user experience, latency, and reliability, QoS and the rest, all fall within what a 4G network can do. Just because some agency makes up unreasonable/unrealistic mobile network requirements that even landline internet cant meet still in the USA isnt being realistic. HSPA+ is realistically a 4G network along side WiMAX and LTE.
@rwalford1979 "... some agency ..." being the *global* standards bodies, I think that gives them complete legitimacy to declare what is 3G and what is 4G. Otherwise why not just chuck around terms in complete abandon just to mislead and make sales. I'm only glad that the European operators are legislated to not be so misleading and downright dishonest. Clearly and very evidently the carriers cannot self-regulate.
@Dann054 In terms of marketing, companies can call it whatever they want in order to compete, regardless if its correct or not. Take a look at the incorrect use of the word "Unlimited" which we know has "limits". Case in point.
@rwalford1979 But regardless of any of that, the use of the term 4G is incorrect by the dictionary definition of the word. To follow the logic of "unlimited" your carriers may as well call their networks LightSpeed, or FTL or anything random at all. I can't find myself endorsing or supporting such blatant misuse of legitimate terms to describe a product. Our carriers got into line with the use of "Unlimited", much better now.
@Dann054 I dont recall seeing "4G" a term in the dictionary. Please provide a link. And use a standard dictionary, not an urban dictionary or an electronic term dictionary.
Dont support it for all I care. I suggest you either fall in line and get used to companies marketing or move to another country that DOES NOT have any technology called 4G at all, and they launch LTE-Advanced and call it that. Heads up. ALL COUNTRIES CALL HSPA+, WiMAX and LTE 4G NOW!
@rwalford1979 I would expect a self-proclaimed Cell Tech to know very much better than you are exhibiting. Anyhoo, try dictionary. reference. com/browse/4G . Then refer to the CCITT, IEEE and other standards bodies, I would have thought that a Cell Tech would know exactly where to look.
Thank you for your kind suggestions, I'll decline from any of them however. You may want to provide some evidence for your outrageous closing assertion.
@Dann054 First, there IS NO actual dentition of what 3G or 4G actually is. It IS a 4th generation technology and is not incorrect by calling itself 4g. HSPA+ is in fact an upgrade to UMTS/WCDMA. But So is LTE! HSPA is 3g, HSPA+ is 4g. That's like saying that after HSPA came out that UMTS was no longer 3g! Newer will always be faster but that doesn't invalidate the tech before it.
@snatale1 As a Cell Technician I am surprised at your comments. HSPA and HSPA+ sit wholly within the 3G standards and definitions. LTE also, although they are both commonly termed 3.9G, but that does not make them true 4G standard.
The 4G standards being developed have key differences from 3G-3.9G or anything else that is pre-4G. Probably the most significant in 4G is the abandonment of circuit switching, that exists in all pre-4G networks.
@Dann054@Dann054 If you use 42mbps HSPA+ devices like the HTC Amaze it's more on par with LTE and even beats out LTE in some cases
When it comes to what's 4G all that matters is what the end user getting and if T-Mobile is delivering on those speeds then they have every right to call it that.
@SaykredCow 4G is not all about speed but the very technology that significantly underpins the defined standard. LTE is an evolution of 3G and is most definitely not 4G. When using speed [only] as the definition when exactly DOES 3G become 4G? And what of HSPA and HSPA+?
Having misappropriated the noun 4G for HSPA+ and LTE I have to wonder what the mobile operators will call 4G for their marketing advantage.Super4G perhaps?
@Dann054 The speeds the industry is delivering to consumers now is a DIFFERENT experience than that of the 3G days. We're in the era of streaming video and video chat. T-Mobile can deliver on that performance to the end user so if their competitor's '4G' delivers a slower experience than what their own 3G network is delivering why should they be at a marketing disadvantage? 4G was never a tech term. But I disagree the use is misleading, it's purpose is to signify a different era of experience.
@SaykredCow The point is that 4G is nothing, absolutely zero, to do with speed. 4G is a wholly packet transmission network whereas 3G networks (including all of the HSPA versions) contains circuit switching. If a mobile operator is selling HSPA+ of any flavour it is not 4G. Marketing, as usual, get it wrong, as wrong as they did when they called tariffs "Unlimited" that were no such thing. I am amazed at how easily people let meaningful language be abused!
@Dann054 I would argue it would MORE wrong to call LTE and HSPA+ 3G because it's vastly beyond what those networks were capable of today. In terms of marketing 'ITU grade' 4G, I think something would have to be accomplished on that great of a speed that couldn't be possible on today's average 4G speed. Only that I would imagine merit a naming of the network other than '4G'. Take T-Mobile, for instance, it's HSPA+42 is a greatly different experience than HSPA+ 14. They're both called 4G.
@SaykredCow They may well both be called 4G but the simple fact is that they are not 4G. And no amount of marketing changes that simple fact. I say again, it is absolutely nothing to do with speed. Otherwise please explain at what speed 3G becomes 4G, 5G, 6G ... 10G. Seriously!
Accepted entirely that LTE, being a packet-only network, is indeed 4G but HSPA(+) most certainly is not.
@Dann054 Watch this to see so-called 'fake' 4G on T-Mobile destroy Verizon LTEwww.youtube.com/watch?v=OWopdoAyQHk&feature=plcp&context=C36169a9UDOEgsToPDskKH0yz-_hU2zVV6B8zhC4HY
BTW you're ignorant. The same standard you use to call HSPA+ fake also dismissed LTE as 4G as well. It was only LTE-Advanced which is 'authentic' anyway. No one has that or will have that anytime soon. T-Mobile will probably deploy nationwide HSPA+ 672mbps before that happens.
I have T-mobile right now and one thing I don't like is that in sparse areas, the data connection is a VERY slow 2G. Eg. When I drive to Tulsa, there are many dead data areas, while on the freeway.
@grgryl LTE is the world standard for 4G and its going to be like GSM Canada Europe and Asia in some parts are going to use and I'm sure other countries are going to follow suite.
I'm also in Norman! I heard that ATT's LTE data is faster than it's HSPA+. But I don't know if LTE coverage is in Oklahoma yet. And the Iphone 4S doesn't support LTE but some of the new Androids support both (LTE and HSPA+). Any thoughts on this? Verizon's LTE is supposedly the fastest '4G' out there.
@grgryl Yes LTE is faster than HSPA+ but AT&T's LTE support is only in a few markets right now (Oklahoma isn't one of them). Verizon does have LTE support here though and it is VERY fast.
@jefresh123 Actually neither network is "4G" they are both HSPA+ so I am testing comparable networks. HSPA+ is technically a fast 3G network but companies are calling it 4G these days to compete with Sprint's WiMax network and Verizon's LTE network
Dude, neither device runs on a 4G network, Tmos HPSA+ AWS back haul can deliver 42Mb. Iphone4s is hardware limited to 14Mbps...and for hells sake, if you are going to run a side by side, make sure they are connected to the same server. The Samsung had a lock on a server in Kansas, and the iPhone was on an Oklahoma server.
exspyguy 8 hours ago
I feel a bit lucky... My average speeds on my Atrix 2 are between 5-7 mbs down. My highest has been 15 down. AT&T claims that HSPA+ can reach up to 21 down.
MACKSnare519 1 day ago
why does tmobile brand hspa+ 4g because only Wimax release 2 and LTE advanced have made the requirements to be "true" 4g but at the same time only HSPA+ has fast speeds with good battery life
TheDougtechcrew 1 week ago
@TheDougtechcrew It's all about advertising, they think it will bring in more customers
mobitureblog 1 week ago
T-Mobile in my area is faster than Brighthouse home service, so I really don't care what number they put before "g".
twistedcross 2 weeks ago
idiot!!!the iPhone 4S is not a 4G phone. the maximum speed of the 4S is 14.4.
moosazoras1 2 weeks ago
@moosazoras1 First of all I'm not an idiot and I never claimed the 4S is a 4G device. If you notice in the title it says "HSPA+". The only real 4G is LTE and WiMax, and neither the iPhone 4S nor the Exhibit II are 4G, they are both HSPA+
mobitureblog 2 weeks ago 3
@mobitureblog you said "i have two 4g devices on hand"... so it kinda sounds to me like you did claim the 4S is a 4g phone
syko66613 2 weeks ago
@syko66613 The average consumer believes HSPA+ is 4G because that's what T-Mobile and AT&T tell them. For the sake of time it's easier to go along with that instead of getting into a deep explanation on a simple video. Usually in my videos I will say "4G" if I'm referencing HSPA+
mobitureblog 2 weeks ago
@mobitureblog so whats hspa 42? 3g?
its faster than wimax and lte
bobby45 1 day ago
@mobitureblog HSPA+ is 4G. LTE is just a different interface. Both are 4G.
dvdmproductions 6 hours ago
The modem on the phone makes a difference. The Exhibit II is a low end phone which has a 14.4mbps modem. If you take the Galaxy S II and HTC Amaze, they have 42mbps modems, you'll get speeds on par with Verizon's LTE.
SaykredCow 3 weeks ago
In Flordia on T-Mobile avg about 15mbps and my AT&T avg around 9 to 12mbps down and 1 to 2 mbps up
flushstuff 3 weeks ago
Tmobile 11mbps northern Chicago area HTC sensation
dmob10 3 weeks ago
Got 9.88 mb/s outside my house...
Tmob SGS2
ACMiLan1113 4 weeks ago
@mobitureblog
will you do a speed test when you get like 1 or 2 bars of 3G on the exhibit please. and tell me the results.
forgetthename16 1 month ago
@forgetthename16 I don't have the Exhibit anymore, I only get it for a few weeks to review
mobitureblog 1 month ago
Fuck AT&T,Love T-Mobile....story said...
ApahloIV 1 month ago 2
hello retard 4s is 3g
coolicup 1 month ago
@coolicup I know this, that's why this video is titled HSPA+ which is a higher speed 3G
mobitureblog 1 month ago
The fact of the matter is, t-mobile has faster speeds than all other carriers right now. Period. I have Verizon and t-mobile right now, and my t-mobile speeds are ridiculous. Look at my videos to see my test, it is four times faster than his in the video. But like he said, it's where you live at. Up state, t-mobile bangs out more than 40mbs. I get at the most 25mbs, on my galaxy s 2. Verizon has pretty good speeds, but not the fastest. Look all over YouTube and you can see for yourself.
mrjlwilliams 1 month ago
People need to stop bitching. HSPA+ offers similar user experience in speed, latency, and reliability of an LTE 4g network so that's why its called 4G
rwalford1979 2 months ago
@rwalford1979 3G is a mix of circuit and packet switching network while 4G is only a packet switching network. To be able to qualify as a 4G technology, speeds of up to 100Mbps must be reached for a moving user and 1Gbps for a stationary user. HSPA+ tops out at 84Mbps. American operators are misusing the label 4G. So what will they call real 4G when it arrives?
Dann054 1 month ago
@Dann054 I stand true to what I say above, speed, user experience, latency, and reliability, QoS and the rest, all fall within what a 4G network can do. Just because some agency makes up unreasonable/unrealistic mobile network requirements that even landline internet cant meet still in the USA isnt being realistic. HSPA+ is realistically a 4G network along side WiMAX and LTE.
rwalford1979 1 month ago
@rwalford1979 "... some agency ..." being the *global* standards bodies, I think that gives them complete legitimacy to declare what is 3G and what is 4G. Otherwise why not just chuck around terms in complete abandon just to mislead and make sales. I'm only glad that the European operators are legislated to not be so misleading and downright dishonest. Clearly and very evidently the carriers cannot self-regulate.
Dann054 1 month ago
@Dann054 In terms of marketing, companies can call it whatever they want in order to compete, regardless if its correct or not. Take a look at the incorrect use of the word "Unlimited" which we know has "limits". Case in point.
rwalford1979 1 month ago
@rwalford1979 But regardless of any of that, the use of the term 4G is incorrect by the dictionary definition of the word. To follow the logic of "unlimited" your carriers may as well call their networks LightSpeed, or FTL or anything random at all. I can't find myself endorsing or supporting such blatant misuse of legitimate terms to describe a product. Our carriers got into line with the use of "Unlimited", much better now.
Dann054 1 month ago
@Dann054 I dont recall seeing "4G" a term in the dictionary. Please provide a link. And use a standard dictionary, not an urban dictionary or an electronic term dictionary.
Dont support it for all I care. I suggest you either fall in line and get used to companies marketing or move to another country that DOES NOT have any technology called 4G at all, and they launch LTE-Advanced and call it that. Heads up. ALL COUNTRIES CALL HSPA+, WiMAX and LTE 4G NOW!
rwalford1979 1 month ago
@rwalford1979 I would expect a self-proclaimed Cell Tech to know very much better than you are exhibiting. Anyhoo, try dictionary. reference. com/browse/4G . Then refer to the CCITT, IEEE and other standards bodies, I would have thought that a Cell Tech would know exactly where to look.
Thank you for your kind suggestions, I'll decline from any of them however. You may want to provide some evidence for your outrageous closing assertion.
Dann054 1 month ago
I'm glad the US Antitrust Division of the Department of Justice block that stupid deal to AT&T's
try to buy t mobile.
georgelewis 2 months ago
Point of order - HSPA+ is not 4G. The reality is that HSPA+ is an evolved 3G technology, that are in fact stepping stones to LTE.
Your carrier's use of the term 4G is misleading (or a deliberate marketing con).
Dann054 2 months ago
@Dann054 I know this, that's why I said HSPA+
mobitureblog 2 months ago
@Dann054 First, there IS NO actual dentition of what 3G or 4G actually is. It IS a 4th generation technology and is not incorrect by calling itself 4g. HSPA+ is in fact an upgrade to UMTS/WCDMA. But So is LTE! HSPA is 3g, HSPA+ is 4g. That's like saying that after HSPA came out that UMTS was no longer 3g! Newer will always be faster but that doesn't invalidate the tech before it.
Cell Technician
snatale1 1 month ago
@snatale1 As a Cell Technician I am surprised at your comments. HSPA and HSPA+ sit wholly within the 3G standards and definitions. LTE also, although they are both commonly termed 3.9G, but that does not make them true 4G standard.
The 4G standards being developed have key differences from 3G-3.9G or anything else that is pre-4G. Probably the most significant in 4G is the abandonment of circuit switching, that exists in all pre-4G networks.
Dann054 1 month ago
@Dann054 HSPA+ 42 Mbps, while not "true" 4G matches the performance of LTE. Enough so that you can say that T-Mobile offers 4G speeds.
310eraser 1 month ago
@Dann054 @Dann054 If you use 42mbps HSPA+ devices like the HTC Amaze it's more on par with LTE and even beats out LTE in some cases
When it comes to what's 4G all that matters is what the end user getting and if T-Mobile is delivering on those speeds then they have every right to call it that.
SaykredCow 3 weeks ago
@SaykredCow 4G is not all about speed but the very technology that significantly underpins the defined standard. LTE is an evolution of 3G and is most definitely not 4G. When using speed [only] as the definition when exactly DOES 3G become 4G? And what of HSPA and HSPA+?
Having misappropriated the noun 4G for HSPA+ and LTE I have to wonder what the mobile operators will call 4G for their marketing advantage.Super4G perhaps?
Dann054 3 weeks ago
@Dann054 The speeds the industry is delivering to consumers now is a DIFFERENT experience than that of the 3G days. We're in the era of streaming video and video chat. T-Mobile can deliver on that performance to the end user so if their competitor's '4G' delivers a slower experience than what their own 3G network is delivering why should they be at a marketing disadvantage? 4G was never a tech term. But I disagree the use is misleading, it's purpose is to signify a different era of experience.
SaykredCow 3 weeks ago
@SaykredCow The point is that 4G is nothing, absolutely zero, to do with speed. 4G is a wholly packet transmission network whereas 3G networks (including all of the HSPA versions) contains circuit switching. If a mobile operator is selling HSPA+ of any flavour it is not 4G. Marketing, as usual, get it wrong, as wrong as they did when they called tariffs "Unlimited" that were no such thing. I am amazed at how easily people let meaningful language be abused!
Dann054 3 weeks ago
@Dann054 I would argue it would MORE wrong to call LTE and HSPA+ 3G because it's vastly beyond what those networks were capable of today. In terms of marketing 'ITU grade' 4G, I think something would have to be accomplished on that great of a speed that couldn't be possible on today's average 4G speed. Only that I would imagine merit a naming of the network other than '4G'. Take T-Mobile, for instance, it's HSPA+42 is a greatly different experience than HSPA+ 14. They're both called 4G.
SaykredCow 3 weeks ago
@SaykredCow They may well both be called 4G but the simple fact is that they are not 4G. And no amount of marketing changes that simple fact. I say again, it is absolutely nothing to do with speed. Otherwise please explain at what speed 3G becomes 4G, 5G, 6G ... 10G. Seriously!
Accepted entirely that LTE, being a packet-only network, is indeed 4G but HSPA(+) most certainly is not.
Dann054 3 weeks ago
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@Dann054 Watch this to see so-called 'fake' 4G on T-Mobile destroy Verizon LTEwww.youtube.com/watch?v=OWopdoAyQHk&feature=plcp&context=C36169a9UDOEgsToPDskKH0yz-_hU2zVV6B8zhC4HY
BTW you're ignorant. The same standard you use to call HSPA+ fake also dismissed LTE as 4G as well. It was only LTE-Advanced which is 'authentic' anyway. No one has that or will have that anytime soon. T-Mobile will probably deploy nationwide HSPA+ 672mbps before that happens.
SaykredCow 3 weeks ago
Mine were 10 mbps.. And im confuses
kentuckyfan2400 2 months ago
thumbs up if your an android user
TheMIKHARI 2 months ago
im getting the exhibit in 2 days!!!!!!!;)
kentuckyfan2400 2 months ago
@kentuckyfan2400 Just got it today its amazing hope you like it too :)
VeryFunnyKid 1 month ago
lol the iPhone 4s isn't 4G!
LongLiveTheDay 2 months ago
I'm in philadelphia *
supertank215 2 months ago
Im philly and tmobile faster than every carrier. With my htc amaze I b getting 15 to 20+ mbps and my friend samsung galaxy s2
supertank215 2 months ago
low 9mb down. in my area low 4mb up. in my area which is New York high 6mb down. 3mb up. in my parents place in Tampa, Florida.
John133465 2 months ago
you held the Iphone wrong :p
dgreatll 2 months ago
@dgreatll Did I? Dang! =P
mobitureblog 2 months ago
I have T-mobile right now and one thing I don't like is that in sparse areas, the data connection is a VERY slow 2G. Eg. When I drive to Tulsa, there are many dead data areas, while on the freeway.
grgryl 3 months ago
Do you think LTE technology will spread to other countries? My impression is that the rest of the world uses GSM only.
grgryl 3 months ago
@grgryl LTE is the world standard for 4G and its going to be like GSM Canada Europe and Asia in some parts are going to use and I'm sure other countries are going to follow suite.
homeboylx 2 months ago
I'm also in Norman! I heard that ATT's LTE data is faster than it's HSPA+. But I don't know if LTE coverage is in Oklahoma yet. And the Iphone 4S doesn't support LTE but some of the new Androids support both (LTE and HSPA+). Any thoughts on this? Verizon's LTE is supposedly the fastest '4G' out there.
grgryl 3 months ago
@grgryl Yes LTE is faster than HSPA+ but AT&T's LTE support is only in a few markets right now (Oklahoma isn't one of them). Verizon does have LTE support here though and it is VERY fast.
mobitureblog 3 months ago
Are you in Oklahoma City?
grgryl 3 months ago
@grgryl I'm in Norman
mobitureblog 3 months ago
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What?? Why do you say you're testing AT&T's 4G network?? You're testing their 3G vs. T-Mobile's 4G... Of course the 4G network will be faster.
jefresh123 3 months ago
@jefresh123 Actually neither network is "4G" they are both HSPA+ so I am testing comparable networks. HSPA+ is technically a fast 3G network but companies are calling it 4G these days to compete with Sprint's WiMax network and Verizon's LTE network
mobitureblog 3 months ago
@mobitureblog Oooohh ok I get it. By the way where did you get HandyLight? That looks like the version that does you-know-what...
jefresh123 3 months ago
@jefresh123 Yeah it tethers. I downloaded it when it was first released before it got pulled from the App Store.
mobitureblog 3 months ago
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jefresh123 3 months ago
Love the new background and lighting!
MrMezzy24 3 months ago
@MrMezzy24 Thanks I appreciate it
mobitureblog 3 months ago
Great videos, hope to see a more frequent stream of videos in the future
redstorm1313 3 months ago
@redstorm1313 Thank you! Don't worry many more videos are on the way
mobitureblog 3 months ago