Same here. Long time Battlefield player on the PC. 1st time BF3 PS3 user. I can't use these friggin dualshock controls so I ordered an eagle eye. Should be in next week. If it does in fact bring the PC style controls to this console my BF stats should skyrocket. ;)
@ThePenguinunited Can you PM one too? I am generally interested and intrigued with this product. Loved BF, TF2 and CS on the PC to death, but due to all the cheaters and high prizes of maintaining a monster rig I moved to PS3. Thnx.
@ThePenguinunited Yup. Btw I think the Wolfking Warrior goes very well with this. Do you NEED that? No. But it doesn't take much space and some buttons seem a tad faster to reach. Not trying to advertise but if that one would be compatible :-P (Doesn't need drivers). now for a good gaming mouse, and later a Turtle Beach headset and we're all set.
@ThePenguinunited I wanna buy it but i'm kinda scared about the input lag, my monitor is vga isn't really good, it's an lcd, but I don't wanna lag much in online and when I play i make many fast movements, is the input lag really annoying?
@SasukeSuperSayayin4 Don't worry about input lag. If you get input lag on your controller, than it'll be the same as that. The device reacts very well, so any lag experienced will probably come from your TV.
Gonna get this for BF3... THEN we shall see who is the most amazingest player.. MWA HA HA. Also does it work with ANY mouse and keyboard, wired of course?
No because there is no universal mouse programming and we can't program for every wired mouse or keyboard, just the most used and those that use similar programming. You can check on our compatibility page that has all the verified working keyboards and mice with our device, which I will msg you.
PenguinUnited, I experience lag even after the 2.0 software. I've bought a new mouse to check if that was the problem. This helped a little, but the lag is still there. I've tuned the deadzone with help from your "remove lag" video, but no... the lag won't get away!!!
This is really pissing me off because I have bought a pc-monitor just for the EEC.
Can you please tell me any suggested solutions? Maybe send me a KeyMap file for MW2 and Black Ops?
Hello so your playing Black Ops I presume. Certain games have different deadzone shapes that are not compatible for our ingame calibration system. In these instances you have to tweak and fiddle around, usually you want to play with DPI first (higher DPI from 2000-4000 tends to work the best with our product). But we have forums and a database (which I will send you a link to) which offers calibration suggestions for the best
@ThePenguinunited I got the Logitech LS1.... This one should do just fine. The video you uploaded from when PenguinUnited was at E3, you was using it as well (the main reason I bought it)
settings for most popular games from experienced users. Now which mouse are you using? I would suggest for the best results, to use a mouse that has a DPI range from 2000-4000. My prefered settings for black ops are as follows (courtesy of Mattbmsu): DPI: 3200, Y and X deadzone: 23, X and Y Sensitivity: 3-4 (preference here)
and an in game senstivity of 3-4. If you have a logitech, I also have advanced mouse suggestions, just let me know.
@ThePenguinunited Hey Penguinunited. Where do you ship from, and do you ship to Denmark? I looked around on your Website without luck. Also, if you have any European internetsellers, it would be even better.
@globalchaos1984 Take a man who's better with a keyboard vs a guy who's more comfortable on a joystick. In the scenario where the man who's better with a keyboard has no access to a keyboard, the guy who performs better on a joystick has an advantage. But this is not unfair. Take the same subjects but in a scenario where the man does have access to a keyboard, it's still fair. You can argue that a mouse and keyboard is more accurate but that's subjective.
Mouse and keyboard being more accurate is not subjective. M/KB is undoubtedly more accurate as well as faster. It's the reason Microsoft cancelled cross platform versus play between xbox and PC players.
Preference is an entirely different matter though.
I thought you guys were going to be showing the Eagle Eye 360 at CES, did you? Are there any videos of it? I also sent you guys an e-mail asking questions regarding whether or not the EEC 360, since it's "V2", will be better than the PS3 one w/ FW 2.0 and/or/if the PS3 will be getting a "V2" like the 360 one as well?
I've been a serious FPS nut on the PC for years now. I have a PS3 just for music and the 'Eye Candy' effects and generally messing around with certain games. because I can't use the PS3 controller.
However, I've just purchased the Penguin Eagle Eye converter and after a couple of days playing I'm totally hooked on the PS3! Blistering speed through the games and always high ranking. Absolutely NO problems when latest firmware installed
@bobray69 Ruined the entire console online? Um you know this isn't the first company to do something like this there have been products like this for the PS1/PS2 and xbox a long time ago.
And there are other products for the PS3 and the xbox360 that has been out a long time now, where you been?
well i just wanna ask coz i heard sum ppl say it got really bad sensitivity even when they but it max...i got a gamin mouse so no probs but can i change the settings....i mean can i change 1 and 2 or just 1 of them....and how much does it goes and when will the final 1 comes....?
@s4k1ng1f It has to do with your DPI, if your dpi is say 1000 there may be a problem. Some 1000 DPI mouse works fine though. We have seen G9/G9X from Logitech works very well, especially with their dpi adjustment buttons. I am sorry, what do you mean by changing 1 and 2?
All of this can be done with the XIM 1 on the PS3 if you know how to configure it properly. The advantage of this being that it seems easier to setup and no need to have a computer hooked up.
My Question is regarding support for left analog controls (hooking up an analog stick as keyboard)? For example, you cannot use digital keys in Uncharted 2. If you use high precision mode in Killzone 2 you can't have refined aim without using the left analog stick to tweak the aim using strafing.
@ThePenguinunited I probably need to clarify. What I'm asking is if you can hook up a device other than a keyboard? Preferably some sort of USB controller with analog support. There are issues with games like Uncharted 2 when you try to play with a keyboard. And by issues I mean that you can't walk. :)
Have you tested Uncharted 2 with your setup? can you confirm that there are absolutely no issues with control?
@sleewok Typically not, unless that particular USB device has the same "data" structure as a HID keyboard. For Uncharted, it has been confirmed that it works. In fact it works with all the games, just obviously some works better then other to play on K/M. I wouldn't play NBA2K with this.
You can visit our forum on our website to find out more.
I really like the idea of this project, cause now i can finally play slitscreen shooter with my friends who only play on computer, so now they have nothing to complain about ;) but i guess there will be a problem of inbalance cause 'normal' players will have a promblem and disadvantage to beat other palyers using the eagly eye converter. I as a Controller player just hope that there wont be be such a big abuse.
but great work though, i guess i'll buy it just for playing slitscreen with friends
thank you SO MUCH for releasing what i've been asking sony to release for years. the money that i pay for this extremely awesome control option is earned 100% some may think that $50-$60 ($50 if on the waiting list) is a bit much, but i would have paid double just so i could play with the best controls possible.
@Permafry42 Let me tell you something about Sony, they've conspired to suppress WASD + mouse controls for A LONG TIME.
It was either EGM or gamepro, way back in the day when SOCOM was first announced for the PS2, they explicitly stated that they were INTENTIONALLY not going to support a keyboard and mouse.
They're trying to keep the good players down, it's time for controllerfags to accept their place on the FPS food chain.
It sure would be nice if you managed expectations via subscribers to your Eagle-Eye email list. For example, letting everyone know an approximate date range when we can submit an order. Plus, it will fan up the flames of anticipation and excitement (which usually leads to more word-of-mouth advertising, conversation, speculation) resulting in higher sales throughput.
This product, like many other products, will fail unless there is a certain level of deadzone changing support for each game. It seems from the video that it looks like it works very well, but I haven't seen anything that suggests that you can change the actual numbers for deadzone, XYRatio, and acceleration.
Take the XIM for example....it is THE BEST Mouse and keyboard converter out there for the Xbox.
@ckebottle We'll Post that video sometime this week! Thanks for the reminder. The Eagle Eye will be out soon. We'd like to thank everyone for all the input. Please stay tuned!
I have used the Eagle Eye Converter. I was at E3 this year and got to try it, I have to say it was pretty smooth and responsive. Played COD MW2, I used what they had set-up; just a regular Micro Soft mouse(wired) if you take a look at the part 2 of this video they show the gaming keyboard and mouse that was on display.
I'm a PC player(mostly FPS) and I have used the FragFX and this felt a lot more smooth and responsive with little to no lag at all. I was also told it's cheaper than the FragFX.
Still no word on the deadzones and the refresh rate. I read in another post someone from your company stated the response time is as fast as a wireless gamepad. Why would a wired device have a wireless delay?
@FATALISTIC4LIFE The response time is as fast as the PS3 controller. We pretty much programmed the quickest response time the controller could give, despite the EE being wired.
Seems perfect on FPS, but what about TPS ? How Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid 4 will be played with the EE since the PS3 left stick makes the character walks or run depending on the way it is pushed. Can we have more info about it please ?
Dead Space and Resident Evil will be ok since the walk/run is controlled by another button. Still I wanna see how it goes with TPS. :-)
@codacious thanks for the suggestions! phone # is not required. you can send the info with just your email. it will be available soon, next couple of months or so. msrp is $59.99.
Why is it that trolls/PC-fanboys bash on a product such as this?
I must say that I enjoy playing MW2 but I'm getting tired of the cheaters, and small amount of players on the PC so I'm looking forward to switching over.
You guys at Penguin United are my saviours. I can't WAIT to get this product. I signed up on your website (not sure if there was supposed to be a confirmation or what). I can't count the number of times I'm playing TF:War for Cybertron and I'm aiming my X12 gatling gun but can't keep it precisely on target because of the analog stick. Now, with this product, if I lose a match, it will be because I screwed up... not because my controller gimped me.
@porkybazz we will ship to the UK. you can purchase it from our website when it is available. sign up on our site to get on the alert list and get a $10off coupon.
What about the maximum rate of movement? When the sticks are used, the maximum speed is very limited. Using the eagle-eye could I turn 180 immediately as I could on a PC or will I be delayed as I would be with a stick? This will be a very important point for many potential buyers, especially the PC gamer market.
Is there any chance of a future firmware update to enable 360 compatibility? Or perhaps a next gen model with both console support?
I'm mainly a PC gamer and taking out my weakness at once for both consoles would make this a day one purchase for me. I've signed up for the email alert and will check out the reviews when it releases.
@krazyxazn whoops, sorry, accidentally clicked the thumbs down! since the EE is programmed to map the PS3 only, there is no way to update it to work for other devices. we do plan to make an xbox version.
This is great but there is one huge problem for ME. When playing multiplayer, using the mouse/keyboard is much easier to kill people than using a controller therefore I will have an almost unfair advantage. I like playing fair and want to use the same set up as everyone else. Now if everyone had this, than it would be awesome but I would imagine very few people using this
If this delivers it will be the answer to my first person shooter dreams on the PS3. I stopped playing Killzone 2 and MW2 just because i hated the controller.
why the hell would you want to use a mouse for any game? id rather have a controller over anything like that.. even on computer games i use a controller not a mouse.. waste of money
@thepenguinunited you could shoot the footage of the TV with the mouse in the same line of sight ( eye level for the mouse with the mouse towards the bottom of the screen and the camera behind the mouse and angled up so the footage will include the TV/monitor as well) so we have a back view of the mouse while its being moved. make sure only your fingertips touch the mouse with your palm lifted so we can actually see the back of the mouse and now your wrist/hand/arm.
@aznvi3tjonny The Eagle Eye will be releasing soon. Sign up on our website to get an email notification along with a $10off coupon when its available. Just click on the Eagle Eye banner at penguinunited. com
Don't know if you answered this but what about the motion sensor? I don't know if Killzone 2 requires the use but I recall times where I need to tilt and rotate the controller. Is there a workaround for this?
@jrsydvl Good catch on this issue. To be honest, that would be a drawback of this product, that we really cannot incorporate the motion technology in this product. The only way to deal with this - which really shouldn't be too hard is to press pause and reconnect your PS3 controller and get pass that part. Most of the games doesn't use the motion portion anyhow, especially the FPS. This is one issue we are planning to address in any future relaunch.
@ThePenguinunited Also, your website does not notify if someone is successfully on the Alert List for the EE. I signed up like you mentioned but I am not sure if I am cool enough to be on the list b/c I did not receive any word. haha
let's hope you penguins will raise the bar and set a standard.
@richabi Don't worry my friend, you are cool enough. Sorry that script was written in a hurry so it did not incorporate any message to say thank you on the alert or anything, it was just a temporary script. But we do have A lot of people on the list already, so as long as you pressed submit, I think you are fine.
@thepenguinunited. Thank you for making another video to cover micromovements. Please make sure to cover zoomed AND non ADS aiming. I'm talking very very slow movements - 1mm movements. Could you also show us like 3 different sensitivity speeds by setting the game to low, med and max then showing how much distance the mouse has to track to complete a 360*. I know every game has different speed but does the EE create some sort of sensitivity/speed standard?
@richabi Great Point, we will go ahead and do a video on those points you mentioned. Its just kind of hard to shoot both the mouse(on a table) and the TV(standing up) so we need to figure out how to do that. we will probably stick a mouse pad on our TV haha..
If you are doing another video to showcase your products micromovements can you do it like you did your second vid? It would be nice to see both the movements onscreen and movements with the mouse at the same time.
I also second godjoeys question. What is the refresh rate and how do y ou deal with deadzones since we can't change them on the fly like the FnS.
When is this releasing I wanna see if this has the deadzones, and the refresh rate problems the other adapters "xfps" has been plagued with. I gotta see how it compares to the only choice Fragfx 1. The Fragfx 1 for the last 2 years has been the only real choice. They are claiming the emulation of console analog movements is 1:1 movement like a pc mouse movement on a console. Have yet to run into any product that is making these type of claims.
One question about really quick 360° turn : is the speed capped by the max mouse sensitivity in game ? So if the game is extra slow, even with your eagle eye converter, we won't be able to quick turn ?
@Paulpaute Yes, the mouse can only move as quick/sensitive as you set it in-game. The EE has no external X and Y-axis adjustments. In other words, the only way to adjust the sensitivity of the mouse is through the game. The Eagle Eye will be releasing soon. Sign up on our website to get an email notification along with a $10off coupon when it becomes available. Just click on the EE banner at our homepage. Yes we will ship to Europe.
Thanks for addressing my questions! Looks very promising. Would suggest the color piano black to match the ps3 =). Are there more videos going to come out?
May be a dumb question, but will our DPI settings on our mouse effect speed or just in-game settings?
@ckebottle Very good question actually. NO DPI will not effect the movement, because it is mapping the analog movement, so everything will be transferred to the same speed. The only way to adjust that is through in game option - sensitivity.
@xombl3 Its a brand called WOLFKING. I dont' know if they are still around or not. But you can goto frys.com to purchase it for a very reasonable price.
Same here. Long time Battlefield player on the PC. 1st time BF3 PS3 user. I can't use these friggin dualshock controls so I ordered an eagle eye. Should be in next week. If it does in fact bring the PC style controls to this console my BF stats should skyrocket. ;)
ajcrm125 1 month ago
Plz. Send me the list too. Many thanks.
sweetbrownsugar 1 month ago
Works this converter with the Logitech G9 Mouse ( wired ) and the Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Keyboard ?
BlackProBasher 3 months ago
@BlackProBasher
The mouse will work but the keyboard won't because it requires to much power and separate drivers. I will pm you our compatibility list.
ThePenguinunited 3 months ago
@ThePenguinunited Can you PM one too? I am generally interested and intrigued with this product. Loved BF, TF2 and CS on the PC to death, but due to all the cheaters and high prizes of maintaining a monster rig I moved to PS3. Thnx.
datsomedimsum 3 months ago
@datsomedimsum
I understand, I left PC gaming for the same reasons. You want me to pm you the compatibility list right?
ThePenguinunited 3 months ago
@ThePenguinunited Yup. Btw I think the Wolfking Warrior goes very well with this. Do you NEED that? No. But it doesn't take much space and some buttons seem a tad faster to reach. Not trying to advertise but if that one would be compatible :-P (Doesn't need drivers). now for a good gaming mouse, and later a Turtle Beach headset and we're all set.
datsomedimsum 3 months ago
@ThePenguinunited I wanna buy it but i'm kinda scared about the input lag, my monitor is vga isn't really good, it's an lcd, but I don't wanna lag much in online and when I play i make many fast movements, is the input lag really annoying?
SasukeSuperSayayin4 1 month ago
@SasukeSuperSayayin4 Don't worry about input lag. If you get input lag on your controller, than it'll be the same as that. The device reacts very well, so any lag experienced will probably come from your TV.
ThePenguinunited 1 month ago
just ordered this 30 minutes ago!! now waiting. woot woot
koripallopelaja 3 months ago
When will the 360 version be available?
fidler12 4 months ago
Gonna get this for BF3... THEN we shall see who is the most amazingest player.. MWA HA HA. Also does it work with ANY mouse and keyboard, wired of course?
ChadMaestrodotcom 5 months ago
@ChadMaestrodotcom
No because there is no universal mouse programming and we can't program for every wired mouse or keyboard, just the most used and those that use similar programming. You can check on our compatibility page that has all the verified working keyboards and mice with our device, which I will msg you.
ThePenguinunited 5 months ago
@ThePenguinunited can u msg me the compatbility page
spidy05 5 months ago
@ThePenguinunited Can you message me the list? I REALLY want to play BF3 with a mouse and keyboard.
BringAaronTehHorizon 2 months ago
We have not actually tried this, so we cannot say for sure at the moment. But I would guess no, only because of the possible power consumption issue.
ThePenguinunited 7 months ago
Is it possible to use it with a wacom intuos 3 with a mouse?
CarDoseS 7 months ago
PenguinUnited, I experience lag even after the 2.0 software. I've bought a new mouse to check if that was the problem. This helped a little, but the lag is still there. I've tuned the deadzone with help from your "remove lag" video, but no... the lag won't get away!!!
This is really pissing me off because I have bought a pc-monitor just for the EEC.
Can you please tell me any suggested solutions? Maybe send me a KeyMap file for MW2 and Black Ops?
SweatMonkeyGaming 8 months ago
@SweatMonkeyGaming
Hello so your playing Black Ops I presume. Certain games have different deadzone shapes that are not compatible for our ingame calibration system. In these instances you have to tweak and fiddle around, usually you want to play with DPI first (higher DPI from 2000-4000 tends to work the best with our product). But we have forums and a database (which I will send you a link to) which offers calibration suggestions for the best
ThePenguinunited 8 months ago
@ThePenguinunited I got the Logitech LS1. I read that it was compatible on a forum
SweatMonkeyGaming 8 months ago
@ThePenguinunited I got the Logitech LS1.... This one should do just fine. The video you uploaded from when PenguinUnited was at E3, you was using it as well (the main reason I bought it)
SweatMonkeyGaming 8 months ago
@SweatMonkeyGaming
Well then you have the DPI for it, let me know how the recommended values work for you.
ThePenguinunited 8 months ago
@SweatMonkeyGaming
settings for most popular games from experienced users. Now which mouse are you using? I would suggest for the best results, to use a mouse that has a DPI range from 2000-4000. My prefered settings for black ops are as follows (courtesy of Mattbmsu): DPI: 3200, Y and X deadzone: 23, X and Y Sensitivity: 3-4 (preference here)
and an in game senstivity of 3-4. If you have a logitech, I also have advanced mouse suggestions, just let me know.
Hope this helps.
ThePenguinunited 8 months ago
pls tell me if the turbo is good.. like is very fast..
Jer0meLey 9 months ago
@Jer0meLey
The turbo works great and is fast. Though some games, like blackops, will not allow you to turn it on online.
ThePenguinunited 9 months ago
@ThePenguinunited but why??? well....... ok thank you for your time
Jer0meLey 9 months ago
@Jer0meLey
They disable it because turbo allows you to by pass firing rates on guns like the shotgun, where you can fire both rounds simultaneously with turbo
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ThePenguinunited 9 months ago
@ThePenguinunited ahahha... that was what i was kinda kidding.. dont tell on me^^... ok i'l take one.. btw .. do you have it in singapore?
Jer0meLey 9 months ago
@Jer0meLey
we currently have one authorized reseller in Singapore and several online resellers like Play Asia, I will private message you the information.
ThePenguinunited 9 months ago
@ThePenguinunited thank you so much sir.. i really appreciate it
Jer0meLey 9 months ago
@ThePenguinunited Hey Penguinunited. Where do you ship from, and do you ship to Denmark? I looked around on your Website without luck. Also, if you have any European internetsellers, it would be even better.
Thanks
Spasserases 5 months ago
@Spasserases
Were based out of California but you can order it from one of our international resellers I will private msg you a link
ThePenguinunited 5 months ago
The FPS on PC was already dying, but this is gonna kill it for good..
zombieinflames 10 months ago
lol at the guy in 7:45... sunglasses indoors. LULZ
TheMango121 1 year ago
@TheMango121 That's how you know he's reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally bad ass ;)
dennisblogg 9 months ago
Isn't this an unfair advantage against people using regular controllers?
globalchaos1984 1 year ago
@globalchaos1984 Take a man who's better with a keyboard vs a guy who's more comfortable on a joystick. In the scenario where the man who's better with a keyboard has no access to a keyboard, the guy who performs better on a joystick has an advantage. But this is not unfair. Take the same subjects but in a scenario where the man does have access to a keyboard, it's still fair. You can argue that a mouse and keyboard is more accurate but that's subjective.
Putrid186 1 year ago
@Putrid186 How are you going to turn 180 degrees with a joypad in a blink of an eye?
dennisblogg 9 months ago
@Putrid186
Mouse and keyboard being more accurate is not subjective. M/KB is undoubtedly more accurate as well as faster. It's the reason Microsoft cancelled cross platform versus play between xbox and PC players.
Preference is an entirely different matter though.
haemogoblins 9 months ago
You have to be blind if you can't see the crosshair is zig-zagging when he moves it diagonal.
Just look when he is scoping and moving the crosshair up and down, and you can clearly see the crosshair jumping a bit to the left.
Pay close attention to the crosshair while he is moving, it's not hard to tell, really.
xzec 1 year ago
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mist4fun 1 year ago
I thought you guys were going to be showing the Eagle Eye 360 at CES, did you? Are there any videos of it? I also sent you guys an e-mail asking questions regarding whether or not the EEC 360, since it's "V2", will be better than the PS3 one w/ FW 2.0 and/or/if the PS3 will be getting a "V2" like the 360 one as well?
FeeLtheHertZ 1 year ago
I've been a serious FPS nut on the PC for years now. I have a PS3 just for music and the 'Eye Candy' effects and generally messing around with certain games. because I can't use the PS3 controller.
However, I've just purchased the Penguin Eagle Eye converter and after a couple of days playing I'm totally hooked on the PS3! Blistering speed through the games and always high ranking. Absolutely NO problems when latest firmware installed
58smellywelly 1 year ago
@58smellywelly Glad to hear you enjoy it! Thanks!
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alizanorrellfht 1 year ago
Any idea when it comes to the 360?
XxSDKinFAMOUSxX 1 year ago
If only the Wolf key board was lite..
lic2kil007 1 year ago
Mouse acceleration is kicking my ass in bioshock 2... it's reeeally heavy and no settings for it..
Sloooowly turn corners in a foots movement-- then all the way around really quick in 1 inchs movement
PedoBearJr 1 year ago
I've experienced delay, how do I fix this? Higher DPI?
1337manz 1 year ago
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mist4fun 1 year ago
Actually its $60
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
wtf 119$
Too expensive....
Moonface00z 1 year ago
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this fucken company ruined the entire console online. if you want to play with keyboard and mouse use a PC.
bobray69 1 year ago
@bobray69 Ruined the entire console online? Um you know this isn't the first company to do something like this there have been products like this for the PS1/PS2 and xbox a long time ago.
And there are other products for the PS3 and the xbox360 that has been out a long time now, where you been?
MajorDisaster4u 1 year ago
@MajorDisaster4u
Got to tell you Dude, if your used to a PC keyboard setup then you will achieve a bistering performance in any FPS!
Bought one two days ago and it's awsome!!
58smellywelly 1 year ago
hey do you guys export it to asia aka singapore does it support asia ps3
lopkong 1 year ago
@lopkong Yes it supports Asia PS3 and confirmed to support PS3 3.5 update.
We have a reseller in Singapore, please check our forum on our website for a list of reseller. Its not complete yet, but its coming.
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
Can you find this for xbox 360? Please respond anyone!
WierdGameplays 1 year ago
well i just wanna ask coz i heard sum ppl say it got really bad sensitivity even when they but it max...i got a gamin mouse so no probs but can i change the settings....i mean can i change 1 and 2 or just 1 of them....and how much does it goes and when will the final 1 comes....?
s4k1ng1f 1 year ago
@s4k1ng1f It has to do with your DPI, if your dpi is say 1000 there may be a problem. Some 1000 DPI mouse works fine though. We have seen G9/G9X from Logitech works very well, especially with their dpi adjustment buttons. I am sorry, what do you mean by changing 1 and 2?
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
Please visit our website and top right hand there is a forum! Thanks!
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
@ThePenguinunited i want to buy one but i live in hungary in europe. is this possible?
Embracedw 1 year ago
@Embracedw Yes, we will ship to your country. Please see our website for shipping info. The EEC will work with European PS3 versions.
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
All of this can be done with the XIM 1 on the PS3 if you know how to configure it properly. The advantage of this being that it seems easier to setup and no need to have a computer hooked up.
My Question is regarding support for left analog controls (hooking up an analog stick as keyboard)? For example, you cannot use digital keys in Uncharted 2. If you use high precision mode in Killzone 2 you can't have refined aim without using the left analog stick to tweak the aim using strafing.
sleewok 1 year ago
@sleewok
Still no answer? Fail.
sleewok 1 year ago
@sleewok The left analog control is also mappable, the up down left right buttons are mapped separately.
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
@ThePenguinunited I probably need to clarify. What I'm asking is if you can hook up a device other than a keyboard? Preferably some sort of USB controller with analog support. There are issues with games like Uncharted 2 when you try to play with a keyboard. And by issues I mean that you can't walk. :)
Have you tested Uncharted 2 with your setup? can you confirm that there are absolutely no issues with control?
sleewok 1 year ago
@sleewok Typically not, unless that particular USB device has the same "data" structure as a HID keyboard. For Uncharted, it has been confirmed that it works. In fact it works with all the games, just obviously some works better then other to play on K/M. I wouldn't play NBA2K with this.
You can visit our forum on our website to find out more.
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
I really like the idea of this project, cause now i can finally play slitscreen shooter with my friends who only play on computer, so now they have nothing to complain about ;) but i guess there will be a problem of inbalance cause 'normal' players will have a promblem and disadvantage to beat other palyers using the eagly eye converter. I as a Controller player just hope that there wont be be such a big abuse.
but great work though, i guess i'll buy it just for playing slitscreen with friends
DaMaysta 1 year ago
I want to get one of these, just to completely decimate controller users.
Fortune2point0 1 year ago
Just ordered it to Norway :D Hopefull my friends would hate me for using this to own them. I would post my own ratings here once i get it.
Greets from PC gamer ^^
elc0n 1 year ago
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Just ordered it to Norway =)
Cant wait for it to arrive! Hopefull my friends will hate me for owning them with this ;)
elc0n 1 year ago
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elc0n 1 year ago
its expensive the delivery international 77$
LiCi2k6 1 year ago
thank you SO MUCH for releasing what i've been asking sony to release for years. the money that i pay for this extremely awesome control option is earned 100% some may think that $50-$60 ($50 if on the waiting list) is a bit much, but i would have paid double just so i could play with the best controls possible.
Permafry42 1 year ago 2
@Permafry42 We hope you like it!
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
@Permafry42 Let me tell you something about Sony, they've conspired to suppress WASD + mouse controls for A LONG TIME.
It was either EGM or gamepro, way back in the day when SOCOM was first announced for the PS2, they explicitly stated that they were INTENTIONALLY not going to support a keyboard and mouse.
They're trying to keep the good players down, it's time for controllerfags to accept their place on the FPS food chain.
Yourebuying 1 year ago
It sure would be nice if you managed expectations via subscribers to your Eagle-Eye email list. For example, letting everyone know an approximate date range when we can submit an order. Plus, it will fan up the flames of anticipation and excitement (which usually leads to more word-of-mouth advertising, conversation, speculation) resulting in higher sales throughput.
Here's wishing you the best of luck.
jimofl 1 year ago
This product, like many other products, will fail unless there is a certain level of deadzone changing support for each game. It seems from the video that it looks like it works very well, but I haven't seen anything that suggests that you can change the actual numbers for deadzone, XYRatio, and acceleration.
Take the XIM for example....it is THE BEST Mouse and keyboard converter out there for the Xbox.
paulrules 1 year ago
When will the next video showcasing the micromovements be released? Comments on how EEC will deal with deadzone issues?
ckebottle 1 year ago
@ckebottle We'll Post that video sometime this week! Thanks for the reminder. The Eagle Eye will be out soon. We'd like to thank everyone for all the input. Please stay tuned!
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
OMG I WANT THIS!!
XWabbit 1 year ago
I have used the Eagle Eye Converter. I was at E3 this year and got to try it, I have to say it was pretty smooth and responsive. Played COD MW2, I used what they had set-up; just a regular Micro Soft mouse(wired) if you take a look at the part 2 of this video they show the gaming keyboard and mouse that was on display.
I'm a PC player(mostly FPS) and I have used the FragFX and this felt a lot more smooth and responsive with little to no lag at all. I was also told it's cheaper than the FragFX.
LevelArtist 1 year ago
@LevelArtist thank you for your comment! thanks for stopping by our booth to try out the EE!
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
can you attatch a wireless keybouard and mouse using one usb dongle ???
ziadshaddy 1 year ago
@ziadshaddy it currently does not support wireless devices.
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
i need this right now!!!!! sell me the prototype i don't care i want it know :D
gameHUD 1 year ago
What's that keyboard being used?
JayEff97 1 year ago
@JayEff97 Its a brand called WOLFKING. I dont' know if they are still around or not. we picked it up at Frys
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
Still no word on the deadzones and the refresh rate. I read in another post someone from your company stated the response time is as fast as a wireless gamepad. Why would a wired device have a wireless delay?
FATALISTIC4LIFE 1 year ago
@FATALISTIC4LIFE The response time is as fast as the PS3 controller. We pretty much programmed the quickest response time the controller could give, despite the EE being wired.
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
Seems perfect on FPS, but what about TPS ? How Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid 4 will be played with the EE since the PS3 left stick makes the character walks or run depending on the way it is pushed. Can we have more info about it please ?
Dead Space and Resident Evil will be ok since the walk/run is controlled by another button. Still I wanna see how it goes with TPS. :-)
gaspaonrocks 1 year ago
Color Scheme=PS3 Black
You can give us 3 or more options or skins, but that will be the one I want.
You're Requiring phone # and address to sign up for $10 coupon and notification of product arrival ?
Bad move... working (confirmed) email addy should have sufficed :-/
Still... I look forward to your product arrival and pricing.
Hope to see more videos with other game compatibility.
codacious 1 year ago
@codacious thanks for the suggestions! phone # is not required. you can send the info with just your email. it will be available soon, next couple of months or so. msrp is $59.99.
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
@ThePenguinunited Ahhh crap it's been pushed back from the end of July then i take it?
aphex187 1 year ago
@ThePenguinunited , I thought the Eagle Eye was slated to be released in July?
Passmossis 1 year ago
@Passmossis should be here by mid august
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
@ThePenguinunited It's mid August. _Please_ send out an update managing expectations to those subscribed to your email list.
jimofl 1 year ago
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Passmossis 1 year ago
@jimofl It should be ready for shipment within a week or sooner!
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
@ThePenguinunited I thought the Eagle Eye was set to be released in July? Has it been scaled back?
Passmossis 1 year ago
Why is it that trolls/PC-fanboys bash on a product such as this?
I must say that I enjoy playing MW2 but I'm getting tired of the cheaters, and small amount of players on the PC so I'm looking forward to switching over.
skeetzo1 1 year ago
Finally.. No more bitching I have to use R2 and L2 to aim/fire.. Fucking hated that.
xDilutedx 1 year ago
You guys at Penguin United are my saviours. I can't WAIT to get this product. I signed up on your website (not sure if there was supposed to be a confirmation or what). I can't count the number of times I'm playing TF:War for Cybertron and I'm aiming my X12 gatling gun but can't keep it precisely on target because of the analog stick. Now, with this product, if I lose a match, it will be because I screwed up... not because my controller gimped me.
elusivellama 1 year ago
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elusivellama 1 year ago
Will this be available in the UK ? if not could it be purchased direct from PenguinUnited or via a distributor or stockist ?
porkybazz 1 year ago
@porkybazz we will ship to the UK. you can purchase it from our website when it is available. sign up on our site to get on the alert list and get a $10off coupon.
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
I want this now!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sdsricky 1 year ago
will this work with Bad Company 2?
YuryArutyunov 1 year ago
@YuryArutyunov It's suppose to work with every PS3 game.
peterthegreat86 1 year ago
PENGUIN
I AM WILLING to buy 100 of them if you ship to worldwide
Moonface00z 1 year ago
If you guys can make one of these for the 360, then I'm sold. I will literally buy it instantly.
KyleAtLarge 1 year ago
What about the maximum rate of movement? When the sticks are used, the maximum speed is very limited. Using the eagle-eye could I turn 180 immediately as I could on a PC or will I be delayed as I would be with a stick? This will be a very important point for many potential buyers, especially the PC gamer market.
phiellaep 1 year ago
PC Gaming. Let me guess, "Comment removed"?
juggernaut94 1 year ago
Looks awesome, but good lord I couldn't hear anything this guy said because of all the background noise. Speak in to the mic!
djbeema 1 year ago 2
I'm looking forward to this one.
Is there any chance of a future firmware update to enable 360 compatibility? Or perhaps a next gen model with both console support?
I'm mainly a PC gamer and taking out my weakness at once for both consoles would make this a day one purchase for me. I've signed up for the email alert and will check out the reviews when it releases.
krazyxazn 1 year ago
@krazyxazn whoops, sorry, accidentally clicked the thumbs down! since the EE is programmed to map the PS3 only, there is no way to update it to work for other devices. we do plan to make an xbox version.
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
@ThePenguinunited Thanks for the update. I'm looking forward to the EE launch later this month.
krazyxazn 1 year ago
This is great but there is one huge problem for ME. When playing multiplayer, using the mouse/keyboard is much easier to kill people than using a controller therefore I will have an almost unfair advantage. I like playing fair and want to use the same set up as everyone else. Now if everyone had this, than it would be awesome but I would imagine very few people using this
TehMaster4life 1 year ago
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gavintricera 1 year ago
How does this fair compared to the XIM360 in terms of deadzone options?
GriffNZ 1 year ago
how does this work in menus? does a cursor show up or do you have to navigate with WASD?
canman14 1 year ago
@canman14 no cursor. you'd have to navigate in WASD, or whichever keys you have mapped for your d-pad.
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
ppl who use this will have a massive advantage over ppl using controllers
0lethalghost0 1 year ago
In 1823, did they say the year was "One thousand, eight-hundred and twenty-three"? Or in 1903, did they say "One thousand, nine-hundred and three"?
No, they said "eighteen twenty-three" and "nineteen oh-three".
It's "twenty ten" right now, not "two thousand and ten"
aaronpaulley 1 year ago
If this actually feels just like a PC mouse and keyboard I will be buying 1st day it's out.
farseer4 1 year ago
If this delivers it will be the answer to my first person shooter dreams on the PS3. I stopped playing Killzone 2 and MW2 just because i hated the controller.
DeltaForceSFODD 1 year ago
I want this for my 360. I refuse to play FPS with a gamepad.
BRING THIS TO 360!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have cash in hand right now.
ZUNECARDSTV 1 year ago
About the motion issue. Why not have 6 more buttons on the keyboard dedicated to it. Push the button in the direction you would lean your controller.
smacky2 1 year ago
Too bad it Penguin company is so selfish that they wont deliver to asia countries..
I would buy 500 of them if it is possible to deliver.
Lots of asians playing PS3 while having problems
Moonface00z 1 year ago
@Moonface00z we will deliver to Asia once it is available
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
why the hell would you want to use a mouse for any game? id rather have a controller over anything like that.. even on computer games i use a controller not a mouse.. waste of money
CustomGundam150 1 year ago
COME ON DELIVER TO INTERNATIONAL ALREADY.
Moonface00z 1 year ago
@CustomGundam150 OMG why would anyone use a fucking control pad?
skeetzo1 1 year ago
@skeetzo1 well nowa days you dont use the pad you use the joy stick..... i personally think its a down grade
CustomGundam150 1 year ago
@CustomGundam150 A controller is your preference.
skeetzo1 1 year ago
I think this makes KZ2 playable finally!
jacobmcr858 1 year ago
@jacobmcr858 That's why i am so excited about it. Finally i can dust off Killzone 2 and get back in it.
DeltaForceSFODD 1 year ago
I had a feeling they'd be showing this with KZ2. I don't know why... but I just did.
Seems like a cool product. I hate switching from mouse to controller just to play an FPS on my PS3.
UnholyMist 1 year ago
What retailers is this coming out to? is it going to be selling on Newegg amazon or Bestbuy?
Hekynn 1 year ago
yes finally a good reason to play an fps on a console
CRAKIZGOOD 1 year ago 17
@thepenguinunited you could shoot the footage of the TV with the mouse in the same line of sight ( eye level for the mouse with the mouse towards the bottom of the screen and the camera behind the mouse and angled up so the footage will include the TV/monitor as well) so we have a back view of the mouse while its being moved. make sure only your fingertips touch the mouse with your palm lifted so we can actually see the back of the mouse and now your wrist/hand/arm.
richabi 1 year ago
this is the most awesome thing ever... perhaps on the same level as the PlayStation Move itself...
OMG! a must have.
when will this come out?
aznvi3tjonny 1 year ago
@aznvi3tjonny The Eagle Eye will be releasing soon. Sign up on our website to get an email notification along with a $10off coupon when its available. Just click on the Eagle Eye banner at penguinunited. com
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
Don't know if you answered this but what about the motion sensor? I don't know if Killzone 2 requires the use but I recall times where I need to tilt and rotate the controller. Is there a workaround for this?
jrsydvl 1 year ago
@jrsydvl Good catch on this issue. To be honest, that would be a drawback of this product, that we really cannot incorporate the motion technology in this product. The only way to deal with this - which really shouldn't be too hard is to press pause and reconnect your PS3 controller and get pass that part. Most of the games doesn't use the motion portion anyhow, especially the FPS. This is one issue we are planning to address in any future relaunch.
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
@ThePenguinunited Also, your website does not notify if someone is successfully on the Alert List for the EE. I signed up like you mentioned but I am not sure if I am cool enough to be on the list b/c I did not receive any word. haha
let's hope you penguins will raise the bar and set a standard.
richabi 1 year ago
@richabi Don't worry my friend, you are cool enough. Sorry that script was written in a hurry so it did not incorporate any message to say thank you on the alert or anything, it was just a temporary script. But we do have A lot of people on the list already, so as long as you pressed submit, I think you are fine.
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
@thepenguinunited. Thank you for making another video to cover micromovements. Please make sure to cover zoomed AND non ADS aiming. I'm talking very very slow movements - 1mm movements. Could you also show us like 3 different sensitivity speeds by setting the game to low, med and max then showing how much distance the mouse has to track to complete a 360*. I know every game has different speed but does the EE create some sort of sensitivity/speed standard?
richabi 1 year ago
@richabi Great Point, we will go ahead and do a video on those points you mentioned. Its just kind of hard to shoot both the mouse(on a table) and the TV(standing up) so we need to figure out how to do that. we will probably stick a mouse pad on our TV haha..
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
If you are doing another video to showcase your products micromovements can you do it like you did your second vid? It would be nice to see both the movements onscreen and movements with the mouse at the same time.
I also second godjoeys question. What is the refresh rate and how do y ou deal with deadzones since we can't change them on the fly like the FnS.
ckebottle 1 year ago
When is this releasing I wanna see if this has the deadzones, and the refresh rate problems the other adapters "xfps" has been plagued with. I gotta see how it compares to the only choice Fragfx 1. The Fragfx 1 for the last 2 years has been the only real choice. They are claiming the emulation of console analog movements is 1:1 movement like a pc mouse movement on a console. Have yet to run into any product that is making these type of claims.
GODJOEYownzU 1 year ago
One question about really quick 360° turn : is the speed capped by the max mouse sensitivity in game ? So if the game is extra slow, even with your eagle eye converter, we won't be able to quick turn ?
When does it come out ?
Will you ship to Europe ?
Damn, I can't wait !
Paulpaute 1 year ago
@Paulpaute Yes, the mouse can only move as quick/sensitive as you set it in-game. The EE has no external X and Y-axis adjustments. In other words, the only way to adjust the sensitivity of the mouse is through the game. The Eagle Eye will be releasing soon. Sign up on our website to get an email notification along with a $10off coupon when it becomes available. Just click on the EE banner at our homepage. Yes we will ship to Europe.
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
@ThePenguinunited Thanx ! I will sign up.
Cheers !
Paulpaute 1 year ago
Please demo with bad company 2 and in multiplayer if possible. That would be greatly appreciated.
ckebottle 1 year ago
Nobody covered micromovements. This is my biggest concern. How are the very slow movements of the mouse? This is crucial for sniping long distance.
I second the piano black color to match the PS3. Or any neutral look - as in shades, not colors.
richabi 1 year ago
@richabi That was my biggest disappointment with the video. Micro-movements need to be discussed.
@ThePenguinunited You really need to blow people's mind with your Eagle Eye. Don't end up being like FragNstein.
skeetzo1 1 year ago
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richabi 1 year ago
Thanks for addressing my questions! Looks very promising. Would suggest the color piano black to match the ps3 =). Are there more videos going to come out?
May be a dumb question, but will our DPI settings on our mouse effect speed or just in-game settings?
ckebottle 1 year ago
@ckebottle Very good question actually. NO DPI will not effect the movement, because it is mapping the analog movement, so everything will be transferred to the same speed. The only way to adjust that is through in game option - sensitivity.
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
@ThePenguinunited Well noted, our next video will be on micromovement. Any other game you have in mind to demonstrate this?
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago
where you get that cool looking keyboard from?
xombl3 1 year ago
@xombl3 Its a brand called WOLFKING. I dont' know if they are still around or not. But you can goto frys.com to purchase it for a very reasonable price.
ThePenguinunited 1 year ago