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  • Why the dislikes? No, it might not be in an odd time signature, but it sounds really good...

  • did you put any neck stain on that? looks verrryy amber for a affinity

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  • its not in 4/4

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  • Am i completely stupid to say that save for the pickup notes this is clearly three measures of 4/4 followed by 4 measures of 9/4???? Wtf ? Can everyone like this. Asap.

  • 5/4 is the new 4/4 ya ding-dongs!

    

  • If you can feel the quarter note, its not gonna be an "odd" time signature.

  • @GFlow4 Negative, odd times often have quarter note pulses. 3/4, 5/4, 7/4, etc.

  • @sonorpaiste702 Ok. Generally with odd time signatures you won't feel the quarter note pulse (5/8, 7/8, 7/16, 15/16 or something stupid etc. etc. orange juice) I wouldn't say 3/4 is odd but 5/4 and 7/4 is, so I take it back.

  • Just because you're tapping on a guitar doesn't make it "math rock."

    I hate the term math rock anymore, anyway.

    Back to subject, I'm pretty sure it's a 4/4.

  • sounds like solid 4/4 or 2/4 with a slight variation through the sustained notes you begin and end each phrase with...

  • yeah thats totally just 4/4... not too mathy if you ask me lol :D kidding. Lovely riff, check out my buddy Ryan Forrester, he is a G at tapping and fingering etc... 

  • the title should be awesome riff!!

  • i'll collaborate with you.

  • nice ~^^~

  • Some really nice harmony with the notes there. Try and start using two fingers tapping mate, and then eventually three. Don't limit yourself to just one.. Although this was posted two years ago so i'm sure you're probably using six fingers now. Nice work

  • dumb and bad

  • its in 4/4 but u cut it too short or extend it sometimes, practice it with a metronome.

  • definately 4/4 the standard time signature of almost all music ever made. But it was good and creative and had a cool rythym going.

  • pretty cool

    

  • You do 4/4, but you have different endings in it. Sometimes you add beats, sometimes you don't. Ultimately you need more structure to your signatures (and hopefully know what they are) before you can finish a piece. Makes things sound more musical when they are constant and you can feel them.

  • @Drumtome

    Nonsense. A trained ear can feel anything. I felt this, it sounded very organic, it made me pay attention and it was interesting. What you're asking for is too much predictability, something which DOES NOT help musicality, rather it ruins it.

    Furthermore any kind of time signature and metric modulation can be FELT, don't make assumptions based on your limitations.

  • @whatshendrix Rather than limitations I think this a more oppinion based situation. I just don't see the structure for my own personal way of doing things and I assume we all look for something we can relate. I think this is something that is too raw yet and hasn't been fully developed by the man that posted it. When it is fully developed however and there is a longer flow, then I will possibly feel it, but as of right now I can't.

  • @Drumtome

    Looking for something you can relate to instead of looking to outgrow yourself IS a limitation.

  • @whatshendrix But there needs to be a level of relation in order to then relate and grow along with it. I feel as though I've grown past this style of music, where the time signature isn't done while being aware of it or with ability to explain it. I understand that a lot of the time that can be a good thing and you can later define it, but in this case it clearly isn't.

  • @Drumtome

    Of course - that's what I'm talking about. Any time signature can be FELT, it has to be, but just because a piece has an odd meter in it doesn't mean it didn't convey emotions.

  • @Drumtome don't be boring, if everything is too related to the main beat then it makes songs sound generic, a song should have order to it yes, but if the order is too strong then creativity is stifled.

  • @whatshendrix Assumptions made by limitations...is it just me or does that seem to be going rampant in the world

  • @GodMentality

    If you mean "assumptions BASED ON limitations", then - yes... Stupidity and arrogance serve those in power, that's why such qualities have been turned into a standard.

  • @whatshendrix I agree, but man! do you sound like a douche...but i suppose i should take your correction humbly. peace...

  • @GodMentality

    I see what you mean. lol That happens accidentaly sometimes, my bad. I just wanted to check if you meant what I had in mind (even though it seems obvious now).

  • You should always write your signiture with a black pen. Nice melody though son

  • retarded

  • cool :) try sliding up with your tapping finger too

  • Sounds like straight 8s/16s with occasional muck-ups

  • This is not odd time. Your playing is in 4/4, other wise known as common time.

  • Wow I've just remembered this vid, dunno why there's so many dislikes though, sure it's only in 4/4, but some Math bands do some 4/4 breaks in songs, it's an angular melody so it does fit what most people would consider to be Math Rock.

  • no odd time signiture, just playing out of time

  • sounds like Scale The Summit

  • first of all that blows as far as riff go. so you can tap... you didnt even tap sweep or play in an interesting time signature. so go look up more arpeggios and learn to tap them the whole way through instead of tapping four notes on the guitar. then after that get yourself a metronome and learn to play in something other than 4/4.

  • @TheAlexkickbutt Blah Blah Blah, I'm writing this comment to insult you, blah blah, instead of giving real constructive criticism, blah blah blah, I think being a condescending douche nugget makes me sound smart, blah blah.

  • @Nephloid God I know! I agree entirely. What the fuck is wrong with all of you? He's not a bad guitarist at all. Youtube comments are RIDDLED with haters that have no sense of decency. Seriously, if someone plays at 99% they are going to get all kinds of shit. It's either fantastic or terrible with these people.

    Get a life motherfuckers. Give compliments or constructive feedback, if not shut your fucking mouth. Are you 5 years old? Really?

  • @AlecW1234 hey shush you poo poo face... eat some Doritos

  • Affff

  • math rock or not ,this is actually sort of cool.

  • Pretty much 4/4 man, everything is 4/4, if you heard something in 13/8 you would know it.

  • 4/4

  • theres no odd time signatures here...

  • it's 4/4.

  • <.< 16th notes nad 8th notes =/= a different time signature.

  • There's no discernible phrasing so it's 4/4.

  • It's 4/4 dude. ONE two three four ONE two three four.

  • Doesn't look or sound like you're playing it exactly how you wanted to, but when you ARE cycling a consistent riff, it's in 9/4. I'm going off of the part at 0:10-0:19 and 0:27-0:35.

  • PHOUR PHOUR

  • no offense, but its an annoying tapping riff.

  • I like it.

  • Ask Dream Theatre

  • my guess is 2/4 or 4/4 its a lil hard to decipher 

  • I am 12 and what is this

  • 4/4

  • @12HarmonicChaos it definately was lol

  • @TheArtistIsStarving I find that unless I think about what time signature I want to use I almost always go into 4/4.

  • @ixsetf true... i think if it sounds good then it doesnt matter, but i also think that staying in just 4/4 limits the range of what you're playing. and all in all i say fuck music theory. the last thing music needs is rules.

  • @TheArtistIsStarving I often do compose in odd time signatures, but I find that 4/4 is the one that I naturally play during improv without a backing track.

  • @TheArtistIsStarving

    Is it a Joke ?

    hahahahahahahahhaa...

  • @ixsetf Same. That or 3/6, because when I'm thinking about it, that's another I use a lot, so I use it naturally when not thinking about it sometimes.

  • it's math rock?? hahahah! Looks more like mantra...and why the time signature is so important? That means the more complicated, the song is better? Daahh... :p

  • what a dumb video

  • It is every time signature, ever.

  • Constructive criticism:

    If you are asking us what time signature this is in you may be a little lost.

    It depends on where YOU feel the strong beats are. Also it may change from bar to bar and not fit under one time signature.

    Maybe try and tap the strong beats with your foot and see if there is a pattern, then count along ?

  • 10/8 maybe

  • @pedro911212

    put a metronome on it, and count the measures. its 4/4. it's like saying 2+2 is calculus. i don't affirm i am an elitist either. but thanks. :]

  • people need to stop talking shit. this was sick. who gives a shit what genre it is or isn't

  • Fail

  • 5/4?

  • quit

  • Haters gonna hate.

  • ps, its just like mainstream. all the shitty bands get recognition. all the decent players get shit.

  • lmao, let me post my math-rock tapping ... i bet it wont get friggin 20 thousand plays... ... complete.bs.....

  • It's 4/4.  You're welcome.

  • It's in 4/4.

  • Judging from the first repetition... The beginning is in two, then the ascending stuff is in five. So for simplicity's sake, this is how I hear it: (drone E as a pickup) then 2/4 x 3 measures; 3/4x1; 5/8; 2/4; 5/8; 2/4; 5/8; 2/4; 4/8 (pause, slide).

    It's *not* just syncopated common time. Anybody who said that is wrong.

  • technically you can count it however you want

  • sounds like the band Native!

  • sounds like a secondsmile riff

  • well, if this was written on paper, and i could see each measure... I would tell you some possibly time signatures :) I'm sure you and nearly everyone here is well aware that a time signature tells the reader how many notes (and what type of note) are written per measure. What it basically boils down to: time signatures only exist on paper.

  • yeeah thats either in 3/4 or 3/8. buut im leaning on 3/8

  • This isn't even in a time signature. You don't accent enough for it to be in a time signature at all. The only answer I could give you is 3/8 because the only rhythm you're successfully playing is a shuffle in 3/8.

    I know everyone said it already, but this isn't math rock

  • It's all 4/4. ALL OF IT. Or, 1/4.

  • 4/4 for the beginning, a coupld 7/8 near the middle, then 9/4 for the rest; though it's kind of all over the place... not much consistency

  • i think its almost a 4/4 time (common time) you just need to make it more consistent and it will be a 4/4

  • i think it's just in 4/4 with a bunch of mistakes/slips. i dont' mean to be antagonistic but it's just syncopated. a neat riff but i think it's just in 4.

  • It's not math rock if you didn't do the math buddy.

  • It's kinda hard to count because you weren't playing consistantly. But from 0:27 to 0:36 I counted 9. So I'm guessing 9/4, 9/8 maybe. Depending how you want to look at it. I don't see where people are getting 4/4 from.

  • Just because you can count 4/4 over it doesn't make it in 4/4. That's like saying something in 6/8 is in 3/4 because you can count 3/4 over it. They're close, but 6/8 is a duple meter while 3/4 is a triple meter. It's all about how it's played and what's emphasized.

  • @MrWhiskers82 I don't understand what you're trying to say, 6/8 is is the same thing as 3/4.

  • @CherubicGuardian Not really, they have completely different feels. 6/8 is more of a shuffle feel.

  • @guitarmagician05 I get what you mean, but couldn't you technically play a shuffle feel in 3/4 too? When I see 3/4 I see 6/8, 12/16, 24/32, 48/64, etc.. It's all the same to me. Guess it just depends on how you see things.

  • @CherubicGuardian It's to do with how the beats are laid out. 3/4 is simple time but each beat in the bar is divided into two equal parts (two quavers). But 6/8 is compound time because each beat can be divided into three parts (three quavers). And it's to do with how the rhythms are grouped. i.e you wouldn't group if you wanted to three quavers in 3/4 you wouldn't beam them together because it will go across the beat (unless it's a triplet) But in 6/8 it's fine to group three quavers together.

  • @CherubicGuardian What? No it's not. 6/8 is a duple meter while 3/4 is a triple meter. They feel differently.

  • WOOOOOOOOOOOOOAH MATH ROCKS!

  • This isn't math rock at it sounds like nothing anybody would want to listen to... it sound like you turned on the camera and made this piece of shit up on the spot... and if you actually put time into that then you should just give up music and fuckin burn your guitar... This is not complex time as everyone already said its 4/4 with extra random beats at some random spots and sounds stupid... that is all

  • This is 4/4 with shifting emphasis on different beats.

  • I don't understand how this 4/4 at all? the phrases don't line up as if it were 4/4.

  • @MyFlamsAreLethal

    It doesn't have to line up to be counted as a 4/4. Count a regular 4/4 over the riff and you'll see.

  • @ianguidroz, but how would you know where to start. what if the first two notes were a pickup, or not. It doesn't make sense, you'd have to know more.

  • @ianguidroz my bad, I commented twice. But how would you know when to start counting, because what if the first note is a pick up, or the second. Also, 90% of music uses time signatures for phrasing.

  • @MyFlamsAreLethal

    No matter how you count it, he is playing a 4/4. Now, you can do a different time signature over it depending on how you count it as a bassist or a drummer. And I'm pretty sure 100% of music requires a time signature for phrasing. Whatever you do is classified by time.

  • @MyFlamsAreLethal Just tap 4/4 on your leg or on the table or something whilst listening to this. You'll realize it straight away.

  • finger tappin don't make it math rock

  • @brandaddy0 its still mathrock

  • @brandaddy0 It's in an odd timing, so that makes it math rock, Captain Elitism.

  • @brandaddy0 actually math rock can be anything as long as the time signatures are changed and are chained together, so by all means it was math rock :)

  • its not math rock if you dont know the math behind it

  • False and homosexual.

  • nice riff, but it's just 4/4 mate

  • 4/4

    

  • i could do some drums for you but i dont have a good cam :/

  • Here's a comforting thought: all of those time signatures listed below are valid!! Since you play pretty much continuous eighth notes, you can put whatever backdrop you want behind you. Look to Indian classical (Carnatic) music for more inspiration on ways to subdivide and layer rhythmic cycles.

    Or, try a bunch: Put 4/4 behind it (bass and drums playing really simple parts), and figure out what lands on the downbeat. Then do the same for 3/4. Then 5/4. Et cetera.

    Happy tapping.

  • need...to.....download.....thi­s!!! 

  • lame

  • its 4/4, no idea why you keep saying it isnt.

    one-two-three-four

    one-two-three-four

    ""One, two, three, four" does not work."

    yes it does.

  • its mostly in 4/4 with the odd bar where you add or drop a beat. But mostly 4/4

  • 4/4, possibly 2/2, maybe even 8/8.

  • Just a guess:

    7/14 ?

  • @ifhgsfj lol Not possible, bud. Ya, I would say its basically just 4/4 Some bars are Something/8 though

  • yeah it's 4/4 but feels like 5/8 sometimes

  • very nice riff and atmosphere!! reminds some good minus the bear!

    Is it a dog on the bed behind you??? xD

  • hello i see that u know about this can u help me to learn more about mathrock im from costa rica and i hear fall of troy along tima ago and i started to play guitar but, there are rules tu make this music or a special styles thanks ;D

  • @InerRecords wiki that shit, then google from there. that's taught me pretty much everything i know and think i know but probably don't

  • that's just 4/4 man.

  • wouldnt know the sig.... but my god... what i mighty fine telecaster you have their .... im green man.... fucking green.

  • hey man what fret board you got? the one i've got seems quite rough, not rough enough to splinter but doesnt feel varnished and yours seems darker? i was just wondering what yours is thanks man x

  • 78/10000000

  • 4/4

  • its for sure in 4/4. BUT i counted two or three measures in 3/4.

  • i believe its in the time signature of 'easier than it looks'

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  • dude how can u not tell its 4/4? just because ur tapping? u repeat perfectly in 4/4 lol ur trippin man.

  • this looks so simple and it probly is but it sounds great!!. No idea what time signature(s) though!!!

  • If you want to really get technical about it, it's switching between 3/4 and 4/4. If you want to really count the feel of the downbeats. For example, try this: count the opening lick in 3/4, followed by 3/4 again, then 4/4. You'll then see it start falling into place.

  • definitely 4/4

  • 4/4

  • It's 4/4 and the riff sucks

  • It's 4/4 - you just can't count.

  • I'm pretty sure it's four, and you're playing a pattern that doesn't line up with the downbeats. You're also pausing (reassurance pausing? your face makes it seem like you're messing up a little, which is okay), which throws the timing off; but a gp doesn't affect the time signature. - M

  • 4544/64664

  • Count with me: 1-e-and-uh; 2-e-and-uh; 3-e-and-uh; 4-e-and-uh

    Now tell me how this isn't a 4/4. You can disagree but since you place a break in between your bars/measures that not only threw off the timing, it's also misleading you to believe you're playing at different time signatures.

  • 4/4

  • 4/4

  • you can't say what time signature is this because you can say a time signature in a couple of different ways so supposed this riff goes idk like 5/4 4/4 3/4. instead of saying that you could always say that this whole thing is in 12/4 or even if its in 7/8 i have seen people say 3.5/4 instead of 7/8. Its hard to guess a time signature from what your hearing because its completely up to the composer how he/she wants to notate it.

  • it's 4/4 with different accent placements?

  • I'm going to say it is 13/8 just to be a pain in the ass. (It's 4/4)

  • i think its 4/4 as well mabye 4/4 with a extra dotted note

  • It's 2

  • This is 4/4.

  • who the fuck gives a fuck fuck time signatures fuck

  • Yoooo. that was pretty sick. Sounds very russian circles like (If you havent heard them, check out Micah, Death Rides a horse, Harper Lewis, and Campaign, all great songs) Can you post a longer version with different parts for me to jam out to? I need new shit to drum to. hahaha

  • this is gay

  • alternations of 4/4 7/4 and 3/4

  • @XXxESPxXX ok so who else knows that 4/4 and 3/4 is just a weird way of saying 7/4?.......dumb fuck

  • @candlewick163 lol. 1 bar is in 4/4 and then the next one is in 3/4.....dumb shit

  • @XXxESPxXX but if the continuing pattern is 4/4 3/4 7/4 4/4 3/4 7/4 that's just straight 7/4. There's no point in saying 4/4 3/4

  • @candlewick163 thats not true. It depends on many things, including preference, how you specifically express the groups as time signatures. you could say its 7/4 but you could just as easily call it 4/4 and 3/4

  • @candlewick163 yeah... thats 7/4

  • 4/4 with heavy use of the anacrusis! Not anything complex