i know when i was stage 3 zzp and full bolt ons we did a dig and a roll race he the dig i beat my buddies mopar stage 1 srt4 by a front bumper and froma 40 roll i beat him by 4 cars. any car can be fast depends on how deep u pockets are
@srt4slow lets see the magazine your cars in... not talking about thoughs cheep ass $20 chips on ebay that ruin your engine and make it run like shit. talkin about intakes and what not.
@srt4slow telling you you spent hundreds on usless parts cuz you wanted name brand they all basicaly come off the same production line.
you mightev gotten 1hp more then nock off parts and lower class parts and you spend about $200 more that you couldev spent on a ecu or other stuff. wait till my cavi is done it will blow your car out of the watter
engine managment system. 15psi boost ported?decked head bigger intake
@srt4slow you have to many boost controlers msd wires dont do shit exept less chance of arcing k&n intake no better then a cheap aftermarket intake and why would you spend $200 on flashing your computer the gov doesnt kick in till i think 149... the only thing your getting is a diff fuel mix. why not spend it on a programer or ign coils... big waste
@srt4slow uhh,everyone knows they were highly underrated when they came out in 03 dumbass. and you have me mixed up with someone else if you think I ever said a neon is faster than a viper. and just watched a couple of your pathetic vids,you your car and friends are all douchebags.......
@srt4slow hey douchebag- I'm 41 and been doing cars since I was 14,anytime your in daytona,fl. let me know.and btw,my car dynoed 220/265 bone stock on the same dyno..at a corvette meet in orlando..douchebag.
@srt4slow do you know that k&n & bfmic do nothing? I know. maybe you have too many boost controls..and your greddy bov isn't the best.you need to do more research my friend..Anytime your in daytona,fl. let me know and I'll gladly let you "destroy" me..lol. Everyone in town knows my car so I have no reason to tell stories abou it. and.. your a doushebag.
@srt4slow your 05 must be a piece of crap then. my car does make those numbers.Stage 1 comp, Greddy EBC,maxfabb dp no cat, BFMIC that wasnt on the car when dynoed,thats it .stock susp,stock clutch,all season tires. what are you talking about cant put down that much tq? I know of people making alot more tq than that on stage 1,just because yours doesnt dont hate on someones elses.
@FranksTube86bad- yes and no. The ss has a bigger stock turbo then the srt.And the srt has a lower "rated" hp.my 03 rated at 215 put down 265/304 @ the wheels with 2 bolt ons and stage 1.. Also at the end it looked like top of 4th gear the srt was edgin out the balt a little.
@mightymatt14 idk how thats sad being that 09 ss has a bigger turbo stock than a stock srt4s turbo..... leave it to ss drivers though to think they are awesome by beating a stock srt4 when they have a bigger turbo from factory
@Colby4trs did you watch the video? did you hear the SRT-4? its not stock. in no way do i think im awesome because i didnt win this race. i just have fun racing so maybe you should do a little more research before talking smack!
@mightymatt14 i know its not stock. but i like how you said its sad that the srt couldn't pull you. that is what im talking about. gah i hate cobalt drivers.. but love eating them with my gt3076r
@Colby4trs oh and btw watching this video does not let you know that the SRT-4 was on full race gas while I was on shit pump 91 octane. But then again you have a gt3076r and know everything.
amen....slowbalts should go back to racing civic si's and stop wastin the SRT's gas in petty races.... a friend of mine owned an ss topped out at 190km/hr.....lol he traded it in for an SRT the next day took his losses smart man
@mightymatt14 for one the cobalt ss is supercharge not turbo and its sad that the str4 lost its way lighter and has a better tune stock and as you can tell it does have mods the cobalt is stock
@ebach1996 If this was an actual 2009 Cobalt SS it would have been a turbo, GM stopped making the supercharged Cobalts in early early 2008....Get your facts straight before you talk shit ;)
@ebach1996 I can't honestly answer that, but I know ZZP took their twin-charge setup off the market because it wasn't dependable. I don't honestly think its an option, but of course you can always get a Eaton M62 and throw it on there, UNLESS they have totally reconfigured the block.
I have seen some fast cobalts, but I have seen some fast SRT-4s so It's really all in what you like.
@Colby4trs Did you forget the ecotec motor is also smaller than the SRT-4's motor? It's not like all my friends dont drive SRT-4's or anything. I have seen them with 50 trims and meth to 44 delta kits and of course the mopar stage 3R.... But I guess I dont know what I'm talking about huh?
@mightymatt14 just swap the motor out with a grand national motor and youll eat most people on the road, i have a camaro and i even know that that motor is god, cost efficently wise you should buy it
I would just like to say 8Balt is pretty smart and knows what he is talking about. I just put the car on the dyno and put down 286whp and 312lbs of torque(3rd gear pull). I think thats pretty impressive for a 2.0L 4 cylinder FWD Cobalt
@mightymatt14 Your car cost what? 25k or so? What an intake and exhaust cost almost nothing the priciest intake i found was about 300 and exhaust was about 1000 thats still about 3500 short and those bolt ons would add around 35-50 HP. Sucky driver?
@zTeamBiohazardx why do people think intake and exhaust add so much hp, no, they dont, both those maybe net u like 15-20 hp, if that, just cause it says this is what it adds on the part discription, doesnt mean it actually does. lol thats in a best case situation, which almost never happens. U sound like a kid who dont know much about actual machanics of cars, just one of those what u hear and what uv read guys. no offence, but that aint knowlage. to many of those around, get to know for real.
When I had nothing other than stage 2, i mean stock right down to the air filter besides stage 2 I laid down 263 whp on the dyno. So the factory freaks do exist. Now I got just about every bolt on available. and some custom one off pieces I've made myself
You guys are talking about the new cobalt though which is not as nice looking IMO. If i had the option I'd take the supercharged one anyday. I have an SRT-4 because i couldn't find the SS-S on the west coast. Btw SRT-4 stock is about 240 HP and 255 Torque at the wheels too. Mine is at about 264 Hp and 275 Torque so far.
SRT-4 stock is 230-235 WHP and about 250 torque. I owned one and I know alot of guys who still do, I also worked at Dodge as a Tech for 3 years. The SS T/C is between 240-250 HP to the wheels (the average range i've seen) and about 260 torque. It also has no lift shift, identical weight and a more capable closed loop turbo. And btw, the SS T/C and the SS S/C are identical in every way except the Turbo has different wheels and is a bit lower and more powerful. S/C is better for the street IMO.
@PutzkiSniper srt-4 are underrated, im sure they do more then 223 to the wheels, cobalts tc usually do about 245 to the wheels. with a tune about 300 to 315 to the wheels. unless its the gms1 tune then its around 285ish to the wheels.
@tomjw7 Yeah in 03 they made about 225, then 04 and 05 had stage 1 injectors and i was told "05 had a pickier computer" so the 04 and 05 im sure made a little better. But me and the family were in my SRT just after eating another adult and 3 grown kids and we blow off a Turbo SS. So thats about 1000 pounds extra so 3800 pounds with s2 and bolt ons about 20 psi, S2 makes about 300 at the wheels and bolt ons and an extra 5 psi let us smoke a Turbo SS...
@zTeamBiohazardx he must have been in a stock cobalt and not known how to drive. but the s2 srt does not make 300whp, it makes about 280 crank hp, so unless u got dyno sheet to prove that, dont way over estimate, lol maybe with those 25 psi u were running u were over 300hp, which is why ud beat a stock tc cobalt, but also why ur gonna kill ur motor if u keep that up.
Isn't as nic looking? Are you fucking serious? That is the most retarded comment i've yet heard. They are identical in every way except two. Seats and Wheels. And you must have a rare SRT-4 because nobody and I mean nobody (I have well over twenty friends with SRT's) ever made more than 234 whp stock and 244 torque. FYI, the Cobalt weighs almost identical and puts down an average of 242-249 WHP and 275-278 Torque. It also eats stock SRT-4's and stock SS S/C's.
im guessing you never raced a stage 2. i have intake and full exhaust and a weight reduction on my ss/sc, i have a friend with an nsrt-4 stage 1 and intake its the 04 model. when we race i pull a car in 2nd, he pulls ahead to my front bumper in 3rd and i stick to it until 130 mph, every time. i lose by that much to stage 2 ss/sc also...
exhaust and blow off make a difference in the srt-4, as far as being a factory freak, its definetly possible. i've seen some stock 240 whp ss/sc factory freaks, its very rare tho
Nice tight race
fast94stang 3 weeks ago
i know when i was stage 3 zzp and full bolt ons we did a dig and a roll race he the dig i beat my buddies mopar stage 1 srt4 by a front bumper and froma 40 roll i beat him by 4 cars. any car can be fast depends on how deep u pockets are
cutegumbygurl 5 months ago
@srt4slow and exacatly you have 1500 in mods and got 50hp car comes stock with 230 i have less then 1500 in my hole car
ebach1996 6 months ago
@srt4slow lets see the magazine your cars in... not talking about thoughs cheep ass $20 chips on ebay that ruin your engine and make it run like shit. talkin about intakes and what not.
ebach1996 6 months ago
@srt4slow telling you you spent hundreds on usless parts cuz you wanted name brand they all basicaly come off the same production line.
you mightev gotten 1hp more then nock off parts and lower class parts and you spend about $200 more that you couldev spent on a ecu or other stuff. wait till my cavi is done it will blow your car out of the watter
engine managment system. 15psi boost ported?decked head bigger intake
ebach1996 6 months ago
@srt4slow go on car domain type in 98 cavalier its the 2 tone gray and green one.. still under lots of constrution
ebach1996 6 months ago
@srt4slow yes i do
ebach1996 6 months ago
@srt4slow you have to many boost controlers msd wires dont do shit exept less chance of arcing k&n intake no better then a cheap aftermarket intake and why would you spend $200 on flashing your computer the gov doesnt kick in till i think 149... the only thing your getting is a diff fuel mix. why not spend it on a programer or ign coils... big waste
ebach1996 6 months ago
srtforums
kencolle1 6 months ago
@srt4slow uhh,everyone knows they were highly underrated when they came out in 03 dumbass. and you have me mixed up with someone else if you think I ever said a neon is faster than a viper. and just watched a couple of your pathetic vids,you your car and friends are all douchebags.......
kencolle1 6 months ago
@srt4slow hey douchebag- I'm 41 and been doing cars since I was 14,anytime your in daytona,fl. let me know.and btw,my car dynoed 220/265 bone stock on the same dyno..at a corvette meet in orlando..douchebag.
kencolle1 6 months ago
@srt4slow your going to destroy me with 10hp more? hahaha.you read too many magazines..
kencolle1 6 months ago
@srt4slow do you know that k&n & bfmic do nothing? I know. maybe you have too many boost controls..and your greddy bov isn't the best.you need to do more research my friend..Anytime your in daytona,fl. let me know and I'll gladly let you "destroy" me..lol. Everyone in town knows my car so I have no reason to tell stories abou it. and.. your a doushebag.
kencolle1 6 months ago
@srt4slow your 05 must be a piece of crap then. my car does make those numbers.Stage 1 comp, Greddy EBC,maxfabb dp no cat, BFMIC that wasnt on the car when dynoed,thats it .stock susp,stock clutch,all season tires. what are you talking about cant put down that much tq? I know of people making alot more tq than that on stage 1,just because yours doesnt dont hate on someones elses.
kencolle1 6 months ago
its funny he says he got a gt3076r but i see none on youtube getting beat by one
TheOutlawmaniac 8 months ago
that sucks to have an SS and you can't beat a four door four cylinder car, and he still gets 20+ mpg lol....bigger is not always better.
FranksTube86 8 months ago
@FranksTube86it's not a ss camaro,it's an ss cobalt.
kencolle1 8 months ago
@kencolle1 oh, then i apologize and thats kinda bad for the srt-4!
FranksTube86 8 months ago
@FranksTube86bad- yes and no. The ss has a bigger stock turbo then the srt.And the srt has a lower "rated" hp.my 03 rated at 215 put down 265/304 @ the wheels with 2 bolt ons and stage 1.. Also at the end it looked like top of 4th gear the srt was edgin out the balt a little.
kencolle1 8 months ago
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@FranksTube86it's not a ss camaro,it's an ss cobalt.
kencolle1 8 months ago
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@FranksTube86it's not a ss camaro,it's an ss cobalt.
kencolle1 8 months ago
Every one of your videos I watch you waiting to roll up your windows.
Kyler2013 1 year ago
the ss had how many more years research and developing gone into it and costs how much more apples to apples? idk
neonkid98 1 year ago
good race
outcast1011 1 year ago
SRT4 FTW
jzk420 1 year ago
@jzk420 LoL. My car was stock its pretty sad the SRT-4 could not pull me.
mightymatt14 1 year ago
@mightymatt14 idk how thats sad being that 09 ss has a bigger turbo stock than a stock srt4s turbo..... leave it to ss drivers though to think they are awesome by beating a stock srt4 when they have a bigger turbo from factory
Colby4trs 1 year ago 13
@Colby4trs did you watch the video? did you hear the SRT-4? its not stock. in no way do i think im awesome because i didnt win this race. i just have fun racing so maybe you should do a little more research before talking smack!
mightymatt14 1 year ago
@mightymatt14 i know its not stock. but i like how you said its sad that the srt couldn't pull you. that is what im talking about. gah i hate cobalt drivers.. but love eating them with my gt3076r
Colby4trs 1 year ago
@Colby4trs oh and btw watching this video does not let you know that the SRT-4 was on full race gas while I was on shit pump 91 octane. But then again you have a gt3076r and know everything.
mightymatt14 1 year ago
@Colby4trs
amen....slowbalts should go back to racing civic si's and stop wastin the SRT's gas in petty races.... a friend of mine owned an ss topped out at 190km/hr.....lol he traded it in for an SRT the next day took his losses smart man
russnjonazalia 2 weeks ago
@mightymatt14 for one the cobalt ss is supercharge not turbo and its sad that the str4 lost its way lighter and has a better tune stock and as you can tell it does have mods the cobalt is stock
ebach1996 6 months ago
@ebach1996 If this was an actual 2009 Cobalt SS it would have been a turbo, GM stopped making the supercharged Cobalts in early early 2008....Get your facts straight before you talk shit ;)
AnfoTyrant 3 months ago
@AnfoTyrant ill give you that one.. but i belive supercharged is still an option
ebach1996 3 months ago
@ebach1996 I can't honestly answer that, but I know ZZP took their twin-charge setup off the market because it wasn't dependable. I don't honestly think its an option, but of course you can always get a Eaton M62 and throw it on there, UNLESS they have totally reconfigured the block.
I have seen some fast cobalts, but I have seen some fast SRT-4s so It's really all in what you like.
AnfoTyrant 3 months ago
@AnfoTyrant maybe different intake. i would take a cobalt over an srt. srts are just to dinky.
ebach1996 3 months ago
@Colby4trs colby you dont have a 3076R lol shut up
poonannidanny 1 year ago
@Colby4trs Did you forget the ecotec motor is also smaller than the SRT-4's motor? It's not like all my friends dont drive SRT-4's or anything. I have seen them with 50 trims and meth to 44 delta kits and of course the mopar stage 3R.... But I guess I dont know what I'm talking about huh?
mightymatt14 1 year ago 3
@mightymatt14 just swap the motor out with a grand national motor and youll eat most people on the road, i have a camaro and i even know that that motor is god, cost efficently wise you should buy it
BlackSabbathGuy 5 months ago
@Colby4trs if you want to go on the bigger turbo deal.... the cobalt ss is a 2.0 srt4 is a 2.4
CFGS08 1 year ago
SRT4 FTW, COBALTS WILL ALWAYS BE SLOWER!
jzk420 1 year ago
@jzk420 LMAO shaking my head at the ignorent. Thats why i beat every one iv gone up against right? cause my cobalt is always slower? nice.
tomjw7 1 year ago
@jzk420 his car was bone stock, and the srt4 had full bolt ons...do the same to the SS and it would kill the srt
02WRXsuby 1 year ago
I would just like to say 8Balt is pretty smart and knows what he is talking about. I just put the car on the dyno and put down 286whp and 312lbs of torque(3rd gear pull). I think thats pretty impressive for a 2.0L 4 cylinder FWD Cobalt
mightymatt14 1 year ago
haha Chevy blows balls
SRT-4 ftmfw
fishngreen 1 year ago
@fishngreen LoL. My car was bone stock during this video and the SRT-4 had full bolt-ons.
mightymatt14 1 year ago
@mightymatt14 Your car cost what? 25k or so? What an intake and exhaust cost almost nothing the priciest intake i found was about 300 and exhaust was about 1000 thats still about 3500 short and those bolt ons would add around 35-50 HP. Sucky driver?
zTeamBiohazardx 1 year ago
@zTeamBiohazardx why do people think intake and exhaust add so much hp, no, they dont, both those maybe net u like 15-20 hp, if that, just cause it says this is what it adds on the part discription, doesnt mean it actually does. lol thats in a best case situation, which almost never happens. U sound like a kid who dont know much about actual machanics of cars, just one of those what u hear and what uv read guys. no offence, but that aint knowlage. to many of those around, get to know for real.
tomjw7 1 year ago
@fishngreen Yea...barely. Put the balt on corn, meth or nos and its a diff story. Neon is a BITCH car.. nuff said
Work0039 1 year ago
that srt is sittin nice
ksteezy69 2 years ago
That SRT-4 also isn't stock lol.
8BALT 1 year ago
yeah it was a very good race. i cant wait to get out of iraq so i can mod my car.
mightymatt14 2 years ago
looks like you lost to this silver skittle when you guys shut down...
TrentB924 2 years ago
When I had nothing other than stage 2, i mean stock right down to the air filter besides stage 2 I laid down 263 whp on the dyno. So the factory freaks do exist. Now I got just about every bolt on available. and some custom one off pieces I've made myself
2pointwhoa 2 years ago
everyone who posted a comment on this video is pretty much a noob except for 2 people...
TrentB924 2 years ago
stock for stock the same? no way. Srt-4 stock is 220hp and my SS is 260hp.
mightymatt14 2 years ago
Ok well since the SRT is not stock...what's done to it? I just ordered my tune for my SS turbo...can't wait till it arrives!
idiotfieldmouse 2 years ago
You guys are talking about the new cobalt though which is not as nice looking IMO. If i had the option I'd take the supercharged one anyday. I have an SRT-4 because i couldn't find the SS-S on the west coast. Btw SRT-4 stock is about 240 HP and 255 Torque at the wheels too. Mine is at about 264 Hp and 275 Torque so far.
clippersfan2004 2 years ago
SRT-4 stock is 230-235 WHP and about 250 torque. I owned one and I know alot of guys who still do, I also worked at Dodge as a Tech for 3 years. The SS T/C is between 240-250 HP to the wheels (the average range i've seen) and about 260 torque. It also has no lift shift, identical weight and a more capable closed loop turbo. And btw, the SS T/C and the SS S/C are identical in every way except the Turbo has different wheels and is a bit lower and more powerful. S/C is better for the street IMO.
8BALT 2 years ago
I thought the SRT-4 was like 223 hp to the WHEELS tho ranked 230-245hp at the crank, idk about the Cobalts tho
PutzkiSniper 1 year ago
@PutzkiSniper srt-4 are underrated, im sure they do more then 223 to the wheels, cobalts tc usually do about 245 to the wheels. with a tune about 300 to 315 to the wheels. unless its the gms1 tune then its around 285ish to the wheels.
tomjw7 1 year ago
@tomjw7 Yeah in 03 they made about 225, then 04 and 05 had stage 1 injectors and i was told "05 had a pickier computer" so the 04 and 05 im sure made a little better. But me and the family were in my SRT just after eating another adult and 3 grown kids and we blow off a Turbo SS. So thats about 1000 pounds extra so 3800 pounds with s2 and bolt ons about 20 psi, S2 makes about 300 at the wheels and bolt ons and an extra 5 psi let us smoke a Turbo SS...
zTeamBiohazardx 1 year ago
@zTeamBiohazardx he must have been in a stock cobalt and not known how to drive. but the s2 srt does not make 300whp, it makes about 280 crank hp, so unless u got dyno sheet to prove that, dont way over estimate, lol maybe with those 25 psi u were running u were over 300hp, which is why ud beat a stock tc cobalt, but also why ur gonna kill ur motor if u keep that up.
tomjw7 1 year ago
Isn't as nic looking? Are you fucking serious? That is the most retarded comment i've yet heard. They are identical in every way except two. Seats and Wheels. And you must have a rare SRT-4 because nobody and I mean nobody (I have well over twenty friends with SRT's) ever made more than 234 whp stock and 244 torque. FYI, the Cobalt weighs almost identical and puts down an average of 242-249 WHP and 275-278 Torque. It also eats stock SRT-4's and stock SS S/C's.
8BALT 1 year ago
Sorry i meant the SS supercharged has way less power than the SRT-4. Not the new SS.
clippersfan2004 2 years ago
im assuming, stock for stock they should be the same thing.
99Neonrt 2 years ago
stock for stock the ss will pull on teh srt-4 a bit more than a stage 2 ss/sc does
aajaro 2 years ago
stage 2 SS/SC = Stage 0 SRT
srt4acr 2 years ago
im guessing you never raced a stage 2. i have intake and full exhaust and a weight reduction on my ss/sc, i have a friend with an nsrt-4 stage 1 and intake its the 04 model. when we race i pull a car in 2nd, he pulls ahead to my front bumper in 3rd and i stick to it until 130 mph, every time. i lose by that much to stage 2 ss/sc also...
aajaro 2 years ago
actually yes i have ran an S2 SS/SC ...but i think i have a factory freak because my only mods at the time were exhaust and blow off lol :D
srt4acr 2 years ago
exhaust and blow off make a difference in the srt-4, as far as being a factory freak, its definetly possible. i've seen some stock 240 whp ss/sc factory freaks, its very rare tho
aajaro 2 years ago
CLOSE! what was done to the srt-4
slvr05ls22 2 years ago