When its down to the final minutes, and your team's only concern is scoring enough to give the fans free tacos, you know you are kicking ass and taking names.
I beg to differ. The 90s was all about the Bulls which is fine with me cause i'm a Bulls fan. But the 00s on up is all about Lakers, Spurs, Pistons, Cavs, Celtics, and Mavs. Bulls with Jordan are always the best and theres damn near no question about a championship coming their way nowadays you don't know whos taking the championship and its more exciting
I agree with Timothy that the 90's was better. I look at it from a playing standpoint. Defense was allowed to be played back then before the NBA handcuffed defenders on the perimeter. You can't even touch offensive players now. Look how Richmond is allowed to manhandle Jordan on defense at 5:47 and 8:08. Jordan doesn't even complain lol. In today's pussified league players cry foul at the slightest bit of contact and it's sad to watch. They don't know what contact truly is.
@KingXfaction1 Speaking of which, did you hear what Jeff Van Gundy said in last night's playoff game between the Magic and Celtics? "The NBA. Where soft happens." lolz funny but true.
well no people thought that the rockets would have beaten the bulls had they met them in the finals with drexler barkley and hakeem. plus there were plenty of elite teams back then including the jazz knicks pacers heat sonics. the comp might be exciting now but its also no where near the same level
2:40 too smooth. LOL @ the girl at the end. Did she say "choke" here 9:17 at the end when the Bulls bench couldn't get tacos? The ball bouncing off Kukoc's head in slo-mo is funny as hell as well. Great upload. Love that Snickers commercial at the end also.
Pippen was clearly a superior defender. Offensively no. Kobe is considerably more skilled as a shooter and scorer. Better free throw shooter as well.
The Kobe to Shaq statement is not completely accurate. Pippen was a great contributor for the Bulls but he was not the closer for the Bulls. Jordan was. Kobe was the primary closer for the Lakers. Kobe carried the Lakers during the 2001 playoffs to the Finals. Shaq took it from there. Shaq was the 1st option but a liability in the clutch.
Yeah he did. Destroyed the Blazer, Kings and Spurs during the Western Conference playoffs. Did not shot well in the Finals against the Sixers but played well on the boards, average 6+ assists and played solid defense. The Lakers would not have won without Kobe or Shaq. They were the stars. They both are dominant players. Sidekicks do not take game winning shots nor carry teams for stretches which Kobe has done with and without Shaq.
Sidekicks are not talented as Kobe are. Amazing no one in the League has ever called or even hinted at Kobe being a sidekick but outsiders. Why not call Pippen a sidekick(which he was more of than Kobe) or young Magic with Kareem. Apparently the bias of people is strictly against Kobe. Has the respect of his peers. Too bad too many fans do not show the same appreciation.
Has anyone ever called Ginobili a sidekick to Duncan? No because there is very little bias towards him. He is the primary closer for the Spurs and Go To Guy when the shot clock is down. Duncan is 1st option and runs the 2 man game. Kobe is more talented and a better player than Ginobili.
Kobe fulfilled the similiar role with the Lakers during the championship year. Shaq was the 1st option as should be but Kobe should not be denied his props for helping the Lakers win. Shaq did not win by himself nor could.
So you're going to ignore how Kobe got his ass carried throughout the 2000 playoffs by Shaq? In the 2000 WCF against Portland Kobe had horrendous games while Shaq was always constant. Kobe in the 2000 Finals 15ppg 4 rebs, and 4 assists on 36% shooting is considered great? Michael Jordan would kill himself if he got his first ring with those numbers. Hell, Pippen would kill himself if he got his first ring with those numbers. Shaq a liability in the clutch? Believe that myth if you want.
Did Shaq take shots in the clutch? No. Due to Hack a Shaq and his lack of perimeter ball skills. Did Shaq guard the best go to guy on the opposition? No. Kobe did the majority of the time. Was Kobe a liability at the line? No. Shaq was. Who was the go to guy with under 6 seconds on the shot clock? Shaq? No. Kobe. Sgaq needs the ball to be fed to him. Kobe can create his own shot. Kobe was injured during that series and still carried the Lakers to the most crucial victory in the series. Game 4
Bullshit Shaq didn't take shots in the clutch lol. You're another simpleton spewing the same myths. Shaq took a ton of shots in the clutch AND free throws AND made them. In Game 7 against the Blazers it was Shaq making clutch free throws down the stretch. Kobe bricked two of his in the final 20 seconds. Against the Kings in an elimation game in Game 6 it was Shaq making buckets and free throws down the stretch. Same goes for Game 7. I watched these games. You obviously didn't.
What clutch shots did Shaq hit? Those beautiful fadeaways from 8-12 feet? No. Technically sound jump hooks across the lane? No. Same old Shaq bull dozing. The most mediocre skill set of any of the all time great centers. Without his size he is an average player at best. Can't shoot, subpar footwork, ugly and technically unsound moves. Free throws and hooks look like shot puts. Nothing compared to Olajuwon or Abdul Jabbar by skill set. Chamberlain as well.
Kobe did not shoot well in that series but him not being there was crucial to the Lakers. His presence was not imporant. Kobes skill set brings alot to the table that has causes adjustments. That is why he has been voted the last several seasons as the players that requires the most adjustments(08: 36%. 09: 63%). Dominated the 01 playoffs. Solid in 02 and 03 playoffs.
Never stated that Kobe never faltered. He has. But Kobes contributions to the winning the championships is unappreciated due to bias from the past on average. Shaq never won anything without another great player. Hardaway in Orlando, Kobe in LA and Wade in Miami. Wade carried the Heat in the 06 Finals. Kobe has the respect of his peers for a reason. He is one of the greatest players of all time. Too bad most fans do not realize this. Then again most have never played against or had real talent.
Kobe wasn't "great" when Shaq led the Lakers to their first title. He was an inconsistent rising star SG that mixed good games with HORRIBLE ones. In the 2000 playoffs Kobe could rarely string two good games together. He would score 25 in one game and then have a game in the low teens (or single digits) in the next while Shaq was throwing in 40. And even with Shaq taking the majority of the defensive attention Kobe still couldn't shoot anything close to a good percentage.
Who hit the game winner aginast Phoenix in game 04 of the Western conference semifinals against a all NBA defender in Jason Kidd? Kobe. Who took over in the crucial gam4 of the Finbals? Kobe. Cant take away from that. Or his dominance in 01 against the Kings and Spurs. Kobe did not win by himself. Shaq did not. No one does. Not Jordan, Magic, Bird. No one.
Kobe is not perfect. He has done things that I do not like. His shot selection at certain times is my biggest peeve. Arrogant but that is to be expected since he is a world class athlete in which the majority are arrogan despite their humble media displays to appease fans. His skill set is abnormally advanced. Dedication to improvement deserves respect and shows that he is professional where most players settle for paychecks and moderate fame. Cant take away from his accomplishments.
No great player has ever won a championship with a great player or players next to him thats why it is a team sport!! But everyone is correct when stating that KB was not the main leader and go to guy on the 2000-2002 championship teams, infact in 2000 Glen Rice was far more important than KB check the fucking numbers reggie miller destroyed KB the whole series sorry but the numbers and video don't lie Those were shaq's teams not KB's Jackson is on Youtube stating it for fuck sake
Sorry no. Phil Jackson was not even wanted by Jackson due to his focus only on offense and reqiment to get his "touches." Why do you think they did not bring him back if he was so valuable? Miller torched KB? What a joke. That is hwy Bryant busted Miller numerous times in game 4 on a bad ankle with Shaq fouled out. Never said he was the main leader for what that is worth. Stated his impact to the game cannot be minimized due to perceptual bias. By talent and adjustment.
Bryant was injured in game 2. Only played 9 minutes. Did not play in game 3. Miller shot horribly in game 1. 1-16. Bryant was 6-13. 7-16 in game 2. Best game was game 3 with 35 on 11-22 when Bryant was injured. Kobe outplayed him in game 4 in the clutch. Had a moderate game 5. Shot subpar overall in game 6. 8-19. Torched him for the series? No. Kobes worse game was game 5 as was the Lakers. Kobe did not shoot well game 6 but grabbed 10 boards and dished 4 assists and made some defensive plays.
Hahaha the Lakers went to Shaq plenty in the clutch situations, game 7 against blazers in WCF is the best example oh and Millers stats were far more impressive than Bryants you look at averages not individual games and Miller played the whole series on a bad ankle as well!!! And game 4 that KB got all the credit for shaq stats: 36 pts 21 brds HAHAHA the only reason KB got to make a couple of crucial shots was because of Shaq FACT. SHAQ 38ppg and 16.7rbds,pg. LOL KB was just a role player FACT
KB just a role player? What an ignorant statment. Role players do nto have the talent that he has. Role players do not put up dominant numbers. Role players do make primary plays and are go to guys. Amazing how you can critique the judgmeent of an Hall of Famer such as Jerry West. Are you in the Hall of Fame? Miller had a mediocre series. He is not better han Bryant. No where near the athlete, nor pure scorer, nor defender. If Kobe retired tomorrow only Jordan would be ahead as a shooting guard.
Who threw the crucial alley to Shaq for the finish against the Blazers? Kobe. As Phil stated in his book The Last Season nobody could set up Shaq better than Kobe. The same paragraph stated he would never tell Bryant that due to using it against Shaq. Cant take away from Kobes talent and presence. The Lakers do not. Apparenlty you believe you know more than Phil or West.
Shaq dominated. When you are that big with no physical peer that is a given. With dump truck back downs, shot puts hooks, ugly footwork and a lazy personality. Maybe you appreciatre that. Kobe still came through in game 4, made key plays as he did agasint the Suns in game 4 of the semis. Still made plays.
How many game winning or game tying attempts has Shaq had in his career? Was he taking those shots in Orlando? No Hardaway and Adnerson(before his decline). Shaq was not the closer for the Lakers. Kobe was. Horry was secondary. Shaq could not create shots in 4 seconds or less.. Kobe can.
Like I said they both won those championships. Without either the Lakers would not have won anything. Spurs and Kings would have been the championships. Shaq was their interior presence and Kobe was their perimeter presence. The other players filled in the rest.
Here is the point you are completely missing and the one that everyone is making, KB was not an elite guard that season, he was a solid starter, there were ten other guards in the league that could have done what KB did for the Lakers that season and many even better, i don't need to quote his stats for this to be made plain, Also anyone could throw a lob to shaq, oh and by the way Game 7 again shaq carries Lakers. It WAS SHAQ'S team the STATS don't lie, and Smith completely outplayed KB in WCF
Kobe was not an elite guard? That is why he was on the All star, All NBA and All NBA Defensive team by not being an elite guard? Please. Apparently your opinion is greater than the GMs, coaches, players nd media that take part in these selections. Please pretell, who was truly a better shooting guard in the NBA that year other the Iverson who made the 1st team? 10 other guards? What a joke.
When i said elite guard i meant intems of comparing him to guys like richmond, drexler, Smith and even Rice when in there primes I don't mention MJ because in my opinion having watched over 800 of his games and 5 live games he is not even in MJ's league these others however WHEN in their primes were around equal IMO and all very underrated when comparisons are made. Anyway that is another topic, But my point is what KB did was nothing 10 other 2 guards in the league at the time couldn't either
Your statement about Shaq I can live with. He was the dominant force and rightfully so. But the 10 other guards statement is garbage. There are not even 10 elite shooting guards in the NBA at that time. A solid starter? Considering his stats were more than solid(22 ppg. 6.5 rpg. 5 apg. 47% FG%. 82% with a broken wrist. missed 15 games).
I am sure Smith would even call you out on that statment. Not the talent that Bryant is and was. Mostly a set shooter used as a set shooter. Not the Blazers primary playmaker or go to guy. Made what 1 all star team? Kobe still put up more rebounds(KB:4.9. SS:2.7), assists(KB:5.9. SS:2.5), steals(KB:1.6. SS:1), and blocks(KB:2.1.SS:1 only) in that saries and season(KB: 5.8 RPG. 4.9 APG. 1.6 SPG. 0.9 BPG. SM: 3.8 RPG. 2.5 APG. 0.9 SPG. 0.4 BPG).
WRONG smith was a Jumpshooter pure as well, infact, he was more than capable of creating his own shot and was a point guard with incredible quickness when he came into the league. In this series Smith played in the post and scored many of his points from there. Next KB averaged 20ppg shooting 46% for the series while Smith puts up 18 shooting 41% LOL 41% is a terrible fg % and 46% is about average for a 2 guard, its also worth noting Smith had worse all round numbers because Pippen was playing
the FG% is the wrong way round there smith shot 46% and KB 41 LOL ooooops. Smiths all round numbers were down because Pippen did everything so well DFENCE, rbd, and was point guard for the bulls teams. Sorry Smith was much more efficient and if called upon could have done much more individually I have the entire series on tape.
Kobe still came up in game 7 against Smith. Outplayed him there. Smith was never a superstar in this league. He was a good player when he was younger but he is not the talent that Bryant is and was. No disputing that by skill set and career. Elite prospects since his underclassmen years in high school. West saw this. You can debate his personality Cannot deny his talent. Skill set is very advanced.
absolutely he is one of the top 10 2 guards ever now, but back then he was a low % shot taker who missed more clutch shots than he made and was called out by tex winter adn Jackson for trying to be too greedy, infact on youtube there is a video of te winter saying "this is shaqs team the ball goes through him" sorry but the point that started this debate is over those were shaq's teams not KB's he was one of if not the best role player what he did was not even close to shaq,numbers n tex dnt lie
Was Shaq the go to guy at the end of the shot clock? No. Kobe was. Did Shaq guard the oppositions go to guy? No Kobe did. Shaq was 1st option as he should have been but if you underestimate Bryants talent and presence than it cleary shows your bias reguardless of fact and professional opinion throughout his career. Glen Rice more imporant? What a joke. Phil did not even want him. Maybe you believe tat Fox or Fisher are better players than Bryant as well? Sorry I will go with the pros.
The Lakers would not have won without either of them. Shaq was not even a primary option with the game on the line since his career in Orlando. Hack a Shaq limited him at the line and lack of sound ball skills limit to create in quick situations. Tex Winter argued with him over his laziness and poor footwork. Unrefined post moves. Size and mass with athleticsim and subpar skills. You apparently are impressed with that. Kobe was the closer for the Lakers. Horry the secondary off of Bryant.
Phil Jackson had great respect for Kobe as a player. Not as a person. Then again Kobe respected Phil as a coach but not as person. Spoke highly of Kobes talent in his book The Last Season. Spoke lowly for hmi as person. I would not either. Narcissistic individual. Then again many players are. Jordan, Magic and Chamberlain were huge egotists as well.
If I didn't know any better I would have thought Pippen was left handed since he seemed to use that hand to finish the majority of his shots.
And it's interesting to see how physical Richmond and Jordan's battle was. Going by today's rules he fouled Jordan like 5 times before he even got a shot up lol.
Great upload, I remember watching this game after I had just got home from playing a leaugue basketball game when I was in H.S. but funny commercial afterwards!!!
I want my tacos!!!
dkthg 1 month ago
Scottie & Mike were so great!!!
carollaihk 1 month ago
link to this comercial at the end????
berserkgatsu10 6 months ago
The only game I ever saw MJ in person! A real experience that I'll never forget!
PetrifiedFungus 11 months ago 4
@PetrifiedFungus Wow, your lucky
TOONG33K 3 months ago
@TOONG33K I know!
PetrifiedFungus 3 months ago
"Burrell for tacos!"
Xrayballer88 1 year ago 2
lol thats my 1st time seeing Mitch dunk a ball at :21
very underrated player who would be very successful in today's league
AgentCirrus 1 year ago
i miss the 90s NBA...but it was good seeing richmond and jordan battling it out....im glad mitch got a ring with the lakers cause he deserved it
midwestking100 1 year ago
When its down to the final minutes, and your team's only concern is scoring enough to give the fans free tacos, you know you are kicking ass and taking names.
inc0gn1t0 1 year ago
0:44 Traditional scene... hehehe
We miss you so much "Red"...
jrbhbr 2 years ago
Pippen was so smooth. I used to love watching him.
joeyyowee 2 years ago 2
Was Pippen left handed or ambidextrous? I notice he finishes alot of plays with his left hand.
SickxxPuppy 2 years ago
Pip was right handed and ambidexterous just like MJ. The greats have that ability to finish with either hand.
spitnificent 2 years ago 2
the nba back then was soo much better
TimothyE 2 years ago 22
I beg to differ. The 90s was all about the Bulls which is fine with me cause i'm a Bulls fan. But the 00s on up is all about Lakers, Spurs, Pistons, Cavs, Celtics, and Mavs. Bulls with Jordan are always the best and theres damn near no question about a championship coming their way nowadays you don't know whos taking the championship and its more exciting
klove20w 2 years ago
I agree with Timothy that the 90's was better. I look at it from a playing standpoint. Defense was allowed to be played back then before the NBA handcuffed defenders on the perimeter. You can't even touch offensive players now. Look how Richmond is allowed to manhandle Jordan on defense at 5:47 and 8:08. Jordan doesn't even complain lol. In today's pussified league players cry foul at the slightest bit of contact and it's sad to watch. They don't know what contact truly is.
KingXfaction1 2 years ago 25
@KingXfaction1 Speaking of which, did you hear what Jeff Van Gundy said in last night's playoff game between the Magic and Celtics? "The NBA. Where soft happens." lolz funny but true.
uberathlete 1 year ago
@KingXfaction1 EXACTLY..COULDN'T OF SAID IT ANY BETTER!
RayHoops22 1 year ago
@klove20w wrong.. in the 00s it was all about the kings and lakers.. kings was robbed...
hmongdude99 2 years ago
well no people thought that the rockets would have beaten the bulls had they met them in the finals with drexler barkley and hakeem. plus there were plenty of elite teams back then including the jazz knicks pacers heat sonics. the comp might be exciting now but its also no where near the same level
noelh98 2 years ago
BURRELL FOR TACOOOOOSSSS!!!!
LOL!!!
Flowerofchaos 2 years ago 4
If a player introduction of Bulls begins this match, I want to look by all means
aak7230 2 years ago
2:40 too smooth. LOL @ the girl at the end. Did she say "choke" here 9:17 at the end when the Bulls bench couldn't get tacos? The ball bouncing off Kukoc's head in slo-mo is funny as hell as well. Great upload. Love that Snickers commercial at the end also.
BrutallyH0nest 2 years ago
Pippen>Kobe
Pippen contributed more to Jordan than Kobe to Shaq.
hPeAiUdLe 2 years ago
Pippen was clearly a superior defender. Offensively no. Kobe is considerably more skilled as a shooter and scorer. Better free throw shooter as well.
The Kobe to Shaq statement is not completely accurate. Pippen was a great contributor for the Bulls but he was not the closer for the Bulls. Jordan was. Kobe was the primary closer for the Lakers. Kobe carried the Lakers during the 2001 playoffs to the Finals. Shaq took it from there. Shaq was the 1st option but a liability in the clutch.
chitownmo 2 years ago
???kobe carried the lakers during the 2001 playoffs?
you must be kidding! it was Shaq who brought the lakers kobe was still a sidekick until shaq left.
as for being liability in the clutch, you were right there but if there's no shaq there, they would have got beaten by the pacers by a large margin..
hPeAiUdLe 2 years ago
Yeah he did. Destroyed the Blazer, Kings and Spurs during the Western Conference playoffs. Did not shot well in the Finals against the Sixers but played well on the boards, average 6+ assists and played solid defense. The Lakers would not have won without Kobe or Shaq. They were the stars. They both are dominant players. Sidekicks do not take game winning shots nor carry teams for stretches which Kobe has done with and without Shaq.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Sidekicks are not talented as Kobe are. Amazing no one in the League has ever called or even hinted at Kobe being a sidekick but outsiders. Why not call Pippen a sidekick(which he was more of than Kobe) or young Magic with Kareem. Apparently the bias of people is strictly against Kobe. Has the respect of his peers. Too bad too many fans do not show the same appreciation.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Has anyone ever called Ginobili a sidekick to Duncan? No because there is very little bias towards him. He is the primary closer for the Spurs and Go To Guy when the shot clock is down. Duncan is 1st option and runs the 2 man game. Kobe is more talented and a better player than Ginobili.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Kobe fulfilled the similiar role with the Lakers during the championship year. Shaq was the 1st option as should be but Kobe should not be denied his props for helping the Lakers win. Shaq did not win by himself nor could.
chitownmo 2 years ago
So you're going to ignore how Kobe got his ass carried throughout the 2000 playoffs by Shaq? In the 2000 WCF against Portland Kobe had horrendous games while Shaq was always constant. Kobe in the 2000 Finals 15ppg 4 rebs, and 4 assists on 36% shooting is considered great? Michael Jordan would kill himself if he got his first ring with those numbers. Hell, Pippen would kill himself if he got his first ring with those numbers. Shaq a liability in the clutch? Believe that myth if you want.
BrutallyH0nest 2 years ago
Did Shaq take shots in the clutch? No. Due to Hack a Shaq and his lack of perimeter ball skills. Did Shaq guard the best go to guy on the opposition? No. Kobe did the majority of the time. Was Kobe a liability at the line? No. Shaq was. Who was the go to guy with under 6 seconds on the shot clock? Shaq? No. Kobe. Sgaq needs the ball to be fed to him. Kobe can create his own shot. Kobe was injured during that series and still carried the Lakers to the most crucial victory in the series. Game 4
chitownmo 2 years ago
Bullshit Shaq didn't take shots in the clutch lol. You're another simpleton spewing the same myths. Shaq took a ton of shots in the clutch AND free throws AND made them. In Game 7 against the Blazers it was Shaq making clutch free throws down the stretch. Kobe bricked two of his in the final 20 seconds. Against the Kings in an elimation game in Game 6 it was Shaq making buckets and free throws down the stretch. Same goes for Game 7. I watched these games. You obviously didn't.
BrutallyH0nest 2 years ago
What clutch shots did Shaq hit? Those beautiful fadeaways from 8-12 feet? No. Technically sound jump hooks across the lane? No. Same old Shaq bull dozing. The most mediocre skill set of any of the all time great centers. Without his size he is an average player at best. Can't shoot, subpar footwork, ugly and technically unsound moves. Free throws and hooks look like shot puts. Nothing compared to Olajuwon or Abdul Jabbar by skill set. Chamberlain as well.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Kobe did not shoot well in that series but him not being there was crucial to the Lakers. His presence was not imporant. Kobes skill set brings alot to the table that has causes adjustments. That is why he has been voted the last several seasons as the players that requires the most adjustments(08: 36%. 09: 63%). Dominated the 01 playoffs. Solid in 02 and 03 playoffs.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Never stated that Kobe never faltered. He has. But Kobes contributions to the winning the championships is unappreciated due to bias from the past on average. Shaq never won anything without another great player. Hardaway in Orlando, Kobe in LA and Wade in Miami. Wade carried the Heat in the 06 Finals. Kobe has the respect of his peers for a reason. He is one of the greatest players of all time. Too bad most fans do not realize this. Then again most have never played against or had real talent.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Kobe wasn't "great" when Shaq led the Lakers to their first title. He was an inconsistent rising star SG that mixed good games with HORRIBLE ones. In the 2000 playoffs Kobe could rarely string two good games together. He would score 25 in one game and then have a game in the low teens (or single digits) in the next while Shaq was throwing in 40. And even with Shaq taking the majority of the defensive attention Kobe still couldn't shoot anything close to a good percentage.
BrutallyH0nest 2 years ago
Who hit the game winner aginast Phoenix in game 04 of the Western conference semifinals against a all NBA defender in Jason Kidd? Kobe. Who took over in the crucial gam4 of the Finbals? Kobe. Cant take away from that. Or his dominance in 01 against the Kings and Spurs. Kobe did not win by himself. Shaq did not. No one does. Not Jordan, Magic, Bird. No one.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Kobe is not perfect. He has done things that I do not like. His shot selection at certain times is my biggest peeve. Arrogant but that is to be expected since he is a world class athlete in which the majority are arrogan despite their humble media displays to appease fans. His skill set is abnormally advanced. Dedication to improvement deserves respect and shows that he is professional where most players settle for paychecks and moderate fame. Cant take away from his accomplishments.
chitownmo 2 years ago
u suck i bet u like the kings who suck really big cock like wat u do too look who killed the jazz and are 3-1 2009 nba champions
mjfanz23 2 years ago
Not a Kings fan. Before you attempt to ignorant insult a person without just due, learn how to type and type your thoughts coherently.
chitownmo 2 years ago
No great player has ever won a championship with a great player or players next to him thats why it is a team sport!! But everyone is correct when stating that KB was not the main leader and go to guy on the 2000-2002 championship teams, infact in 2000 Glen Rice was far more important than KB check the fucking numbers reggie miller destroyed KB the whole series sorry but the numbers and video don't lie Those were shaq's teams not KB's Jackson is on Youtube stating it for fuck sake
mj45jh23sp33 2 years ago
Sorry no. Phil Jackson was not even wanted by Jackson due to his focus only on offense and reqiment to get his "touches." Why do you think they did not bring him back if he was so valuable? Miller torched KB? What a joke. That is hwy Bryant busted Miller numerous times in game 4 on a bad ankle with Shaq fouled out. Never said he was the main leader for what that is worth. Stated his impact to the game cannot be minimized due to perceptual bias. By talent and adjustment.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Rice was not wanted by Jackson. Typo. My apologies.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Bryant was injured in game 2. Only played 9 minutes. Did not play in game 3. Miller shot horribly in game 1. 1-16. Bryant was 6-13. 7-16 in game 2. Best game was game 3 with 35 on 11-22 when Bryant was injured. Kobe outplayed him in game 4 in the clutch. Had a moderate game 5. Shot subpar overall in game 6. 8-19. Torched him for the series? No. Kobes worse game was game 5 as was the Lakers. Kobe did not shoot well game 6 but grabbed 10 boards and dished 4 assists and made some defensive plays.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Hahaha the Lakers went to Shaq plenty in the clutch situations, game 7 against blazers in WCF is the best example oh and Millers stats were far more impressive than Bryants you look at averages not individual games and Miller played the whole series on a bad ankle as well!!! And game 4 that KB got all the credit for shaq stats: 36 pts 21 brds HAHAHA the only reason KB got to make a couple of crucial shots was because of Shaq FACT. SHAQ 38ppg and 16.7rbds,pg. LOL KB was just a role player FACT
mj45jh23sp33 2 years ago
KB just a role player? What an ignorant statment. Role players do nto have the talent that he has. Role players do not put up dominant numbers. Role players do make primary plays and are go to guys. Amazing how you can critique the judgmeent of an Hall of Famer such as Jerry West. Are you in the Hall of Fame? Miller had a mediocre series. He is not better han Bryant. No where near the athlete, nor pure scorer, nor defender. If Kobe retired tomorrow only Jordan would be ahead as a shooting guard.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Who threw the crucial alley to Shaq for the finish against the Blazers? Kobe. As Phil stated in his book The Last Season nobody could set up Shaq better than Kobe. The same paragraph stated he would never tell Bryant that due to using it against Shaq. Cant take away from Kobes talent and presence. The Lakers do not. Apparenlty you believe you know more than Phil or West.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Shaq dominated. When you are that big with no physical peer that is a given. With dump truck back downs, shot puts hooks, ugly footwork and a lazy personality. Maybe you appreciatre that. Kobe still came through in game 4, made key plays as he did agasint the Suns in game 4 of the semis. Still made plays.
chitownmo 2 years ago
How many game winning or game tying attempts has Shaq had in his career? Was he taking those shots in Orlando? No Hardaway and Adnerson(before his decline). Shaq was not the closer for the Lakers. Kobe was. Horry was secondary. Shaq could not create shots in 4 seconds or less.. Kobe can.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Like I said they both won those championships. Without either the Lakers would not have won anything. Spurs and Kings would have been the championships. Shaq was their interior presence and Kobe was their perimeter presence. The other players filled in the rest.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Here is the point you are completely missing and the one that everyone is making, KB was not an elite guard that season, he was a solid starter, there were ten other guards in the league that could have done what KB did for the Lakers that season and many even better, i don't need to quote his stats for this to be made plain, Also anyone could throw a lob to shaq, oh and by the way Game 7 again shaq carries Lakers. It WAS SHAQ'S team the STATS don't lie, and Smith completely outplayed KB in WCF
mj45jh23sp33 2 years ago
Kobe was not an elite guard? That is why he was on the All star, All NBA and All NBA Defensive team by not being an elite guard? Please. Apparently your opinion is greater than the GMs, coaches, players nd media that take part in these selections. Please pretell, who was truly a better shooting guard in the NBA that year other the Iverson who made the 1st team? 10 other guards? What a joke.
chitownmo 2 years ago
When i said elite guard i meant intems of comparing him to guys like richmond, drexler, Smith and even Rice when in there primes I don't mention MJ because in my opinion having watched over 800 of his games and 5 live games he is not even in MJ's league these others however WHEN in their primes were around equal IMO and all very underrated when comparisons are made. Anyway that is another topic, But my point is what KB did was nothing 10 other 2 guards in the league at the time couldn't either
mj45jh23sp33 2 years ago 2
Your statement about Shaq I can live with. He was the dominant force and rightfully so. But the 10 other guards statement is garbage. There are not even 10 elite shooting guards in the NBA at that time. A solid starter? Considering his stats were more than solid(22 ppg. 6.5 rpg. 5 apg. 47% FG%. 82% with a broken wrist. missed 15 games).
chitownmo 2 years ago
I am sure Smith would even call you out on that statment. Not the talent that Bryant is and was. Mostly a set shooter used as a set shooter. Not the Blazers primary playmaker or go to guy. Made what 1 all star team? Kobe still put up more rebounds(KB:4.9. SS:2.7), assists(KB:5.9. SS:2.5), steals(KB:1.6. SS:1), and blocks(KB:2.1.SS:1 only) in that saries and season(KB: 5.8 RPG. 4.9 APG. 1.6 SPG. 0.9 BPG. SM: 3.8 RPG. 2.5 APG. 0.9 SPG. 0.4 BPG).
chitownmo 2 years ago
WRONG smith was a Jumpshooter pure as well, infact, he was more than capable of creating his own shot and was a point guard with incredible quickness when he came into the league. In this series Smith played in the post and scored many of his points from there. Next KB averaged 20ppg shooting 46% for the series while Smith puts up 18 shooting 41% LOL 41% is a terrible fg % and 46% is about average for a 2 guard, its also worth noting Smith had worse all round numbers because Pippen was playing
mj45jh23sp33 2 years ago
the FG% is the wrong way round there smith shot 46% and KB 41 LOL ooooops. Smiths all round numbers were down because Pippen did everything so well DFENCE, rbd, and was point guard for the bulls teams. Sorry Smith was much more efficient and if called upon could have done much more individually I have the entire series on tape.
mj45jh23sp33 2 years ago
Kobe still came up in game 7 against Smith. Outplayed him there. Smith was never a superstar in this league. He was a good player when he was younger but he is not the talent that Bryant is and was. No disputing that by skill set and career. Elite prospects since his underclassmen years in high school. West saw this. You can debate his personality Cannot deny his talent. Skill set is very advanced.
chitownmo 2 years ago
absolutely he is one of the top 10 2 guards ever now, but back then he was a low % shot taker who missed more clutch shots than he made and was called out by tex winter adn Jackson for trying to be too greedy, infact on youtube there is a video of te winter saying "this is shaqs team the ball goes through him" sorry but the point that started this debate is over those were shaq's teams not KB's he was one of if not the best role player what he did was not even close to shaq,numbers n tex dnt lie
mj45jh23sp33 2 years ago
More individually? Doubtful. Not as athletic, skilled in isoaltions. Coutd not create off the dribble like Bryant.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Was Shaq the go to guy at the end of the shot clock? No. Kobe was. Did Shaq guard the oppositions go to guy? No Kobe did. Shaq was 1st option as he should have been but if you underestimate Bryants talent and presence than it cleary shows your bias reguardless of fact and professional opinion throughout his career. Glen Rice more imporant? What a joke. Phil did not even want him. Maybe you believe tat Fox or Fisher are better players than Bryant as well? Sorry I will go with the pros.
chitownmo 2 years ago
The Lakers would not have won without either of them. Shaq was not even a primary option with the game on the line since his career in Orlando. Hack a Shaq limited him at the line and lack of sound ball skills limit to create in quick situations. Tex Winter argued with him over his laziness and poor footwork. Unrefined post moves. Size and mass with athleticsim and subpar skills. You apparently are impressed with that. Kobe was the closer for the Lakers. Horry the secondary off of Bryant.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Phil Jackson had great respect for Kobe as a player. Not as a person. Then again Kobe respected Phil as a coach but not as person. Spoke highly of Kobes talent in his book The Last Season. Spoke lowly for hmi as person. I would not either. Narcissistic individual. Then again many players are. Jordan, Magic and Chamberlain were huge egotists as well.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Pippen learned from MJ through practice while Kobe learned from MJ through videos!
hPeAiUdLe 2 years ago
Kobe learned from alot of players. From Oscar Robertson to Dr. J to Magic to Jordan. He is a student of the game as has been documented before.
chitownmo 2 years ago
where did he learn ballhugging???? To NBA players also???LOL
smegma24 2 years ago
This really matters to you doesn't it? Must have no talent. Grow up.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Great video!
xzver 2 years ago
The last minute of this clip is hilarious. Poor Kukoc lol and I remember that Snickers commercial. I love when the kid runs off with the ball.
OneGloriousBastard 2 years ago
If I didn't know any better I would have thought Pippen was left handed since he seemed to use that hand to finish the majority of his shots.
And it's interesting to see how physical Richmond and Jordan's battle was. Going by today's rules he fouled Jordan like 5 times before he even got a shot up lol.
OneGloriousBastard 2 years ago
Great upload, I remember watching this game after I had just got home from playing a leaugue basketball game when I was in H.S. but funny commercial afterwards!!!
jaboo82681 2 years ago