I thought that was a really good video and I'm surprised that there are so many negative comments here.
I would guess that many of the people making the negative comments consider themselves "Christians" and believe they are going to "Heaven". Well, isn't "Heaven" another dimension?
Just because you can't see something with your physical eyes doesn't mean it's not there.
@M3t4lManiac 20th-century Dutch artist M.C. Escher. Look him up instead of billiard balls, he painted a lizard that came out of the 2d engraving and became 3d.
@M3t4lManiac Higher dimensions by Etienne Ghys, a French mathematician. I'm unable to post the link but just google the phrase. My calculus professor gave us this link about the dimensions. Scientists have been studying this longer than you've been conscious.
@Wittgensteinism You are committed to remaining locked into your narrow paradigm of 'official' spoon fed reality..I realize that this enables you to draw comfort from feeling any need to spiritually learn and grow..stay within the 'matrix' if you so choose ; you will continue to be one of the establishments useful idiots
@JamesJTraitz lol. I suggest a book called "Everything Bad is Good For You: How Today's Popular Culture is Actually Making Us Smarter" by Steven Johnson.
Talk about narrow minded, do you see the irony in what you're doing? You've been spoonfed some pseudoscientific, pseudoreligious bullshit about how corrupt our modern way of life is. Calling it the "matrix" is yet another example of your own narrow paradigm of reality and society and you say it just like one of the many drones i've heard do so
@JamesJTraitz Your misconception of the soul being some entity beyond the body is not uncommon. In fact, it's source of confusion of metaphysical topics which cause so many people to say nonsensical claims about reality. The word soul/spirit, e.g. as mentioned in the Bible, is literally translated as Breath. When people died they stopped breathing; hence they imagined the breath as the source of all life, hence "God breathed life into Man".
@JamesJTraitz I don't have any problem with people using their imagination, but coming up with fairy-tales and promoting them as truth is just really, really disgusting. You ought to visit a doctor of some kind if you think you are justified in this behaviour.
@JamesJTraitz Oh you mean the fairy-tale that is backed up by mountains of substantial evidence? Yea I see how your bullshit claims superiority over that. If you don't "believe" in evolution you are simply uneducated and I can't help feeling sorry for you for it. You really just don't know any better.
@M3t4lManiac Natural Selection is most certainly subject to debate. What we call "evolution" is the serialized manifestation into the three-dimensional framework of an 'Event' that exists 'at once' at a pre-physical or un-manifest level of being..created as a whole and appearing in our physical experience the way a movie plays out. BTW you should feel sorry for those,like yourself, that are unable(unwilling?) to see beyond the matrix
@JamesJTraitz All I'm reading is bullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshit, you are not even making sense, I find it hard to believe that you wrote that book of yours by yourself. Then again you probably just plagiarised famous scientists and tworted their work to fit your bullshit. No, I should feel sorry for people like you who can't deal with reality.
@M3t4lManiac If it will help you; the physical world that you perceive is composed of invisible patterns which take final form as a result of probabilities directed by consciousness
We are here in our bodies with amazing but limited senses, which cannot perceive beyond certain parts of the wave spectrum. I am a photographer and have used infra-red film - the world looks very different through that. Animals and birds have sense organs that perceive the world differently to us too; some see different colours and parts of the wave spectrum including UV. By extension, who is to say that there is NOT way more beyond our own senses? Our senses and our interpretations create ...
We are here in our bodies with amazing but limited senses, which cannot perceive beyond certain parts of the wave spectrum. I am a photographer and have used infra-red film - the world looks very different through that. Animals and birds have sense organs that perceive the world differently to us too; some see different colours and parts of the wave spectrum including UV. By extension, who is to say that there is NOT way more beyond our own senses? Our senses and our interpretations create ...
I know consciousness exists beyond the confines of the biological self because I've experienced it. Not because I read some book on the paranormal,or because I think the Dali lama is a sweet guy, or because of basic fears of some inevitable cessation of the self. science & spirituality are not oppositional forces. ignorance is the only oppositional force.
@gregrutz the "light cone of physics" is not my creation. It represents a graph with time on one side and space on the other-all of physical existence 'falls' within this 'cone' It is called a "light cone" because light operates within space and time
answer me this,all knowing atheists.ive had a # of precognitive dreams that later happened in the exact same sequence as the later event. same cast of characters, same day or nite setting,etc.a month or so before the actual event.how, you may ask, is that possible?because consciousness is not an object so it not subjected to the laws of three dimensional spacetime.
recently somene sald to me that they would rather read about the history of baseball statistics than what i was reading @ the time, the spirtual crisis in man.people are not aware of the existence of a soul because these matters are too subtle for most exterverted personalities to grasp..
Sir, I think it would also be helpful to use a metaphor that our "waking life" is what we see as balls on the surface of a pool table. Our death is dropping into the pocket where we go back to the entry point and are "re-racked" for another game which, thought it has the same shapes and rules, still has a very different outcome, each and every time.
After all, when confronted with a dilemma/confusion, I believe G instructed to observe the laws of the universe above and/or below.
Via Double Attention...awareness of what you are sensing ,feeling ,thinking in any given moment....We are/have entered the beginning of a new age of dimensional expansion the effects will occur over a time period of some years 2012 represents a critical 'turning point' I do not know if the initial change will happen physically and explosively or first within the 'inner' framework BUT the changes will be physical and clear !
I love listening to you're stuff is there any videos you got on 2012, also I had an experience once I was floating in the midst of a white universe, before floated a great pearly white shere
what I was and where I came from was very clear, I was my soul, it became one in my body after a very pleasurable yawn, or stretch, coming from my tip toes and my head joining in the middle of my stomach, and what seemed like a few seconds I was no longer in my body
however I did'nt recieve the warmest welcome, in fact it was no welcome at all, and from then I knew, God is very serious when he talks about the salvation of our souls, I was a bad soul then, not so bad anymore, just an alcoholic, and i dont quit I fear I will experience a second time of such hostility, only next time I won't have the lively comforts of my body to return to
also what I gathered from that experience was that I've always been around, I did'nt start 29 years ago when my mom and dad joined together and made me, I am begotten from this vast universe of energy, only Jesus was begotten from the Great white sphere, but I just like you and everyone else are etenal, we always have been, only now for a short period we get a body and enter Life 101, when our bodys die, we go back to where wqe came from, only this time as children of God capable of enjoying
well, life, in the spiritual sense, we are no longer mindless forms of energy, we go back as vibrant, capable lively beings, my opinion on the meaning of life is to just live a pious simple life, die and go back where we came from, but if we choose to be ungodly, like myself for now, we will eternally be seperated from God experience a hell no man has ever been capable of enduring on humanity, and if one does'nt believe he wiil a very rude awakening one day
@JamesJTraitz it seems to me that we're coming to the end of an octave whose Mi-Fa was the SuperEffort required by the Allied Powers to overcome the expanding influence of the nazis. Ti-Do, seems to have been 9/11, which has led to, yet again, another super effort to curb the expansion of rising Islamo-fascism (who, by the way, were in cahoots with the Hitler, see: grand mufti and Hitler). It only makes sense that now that we are crossing Ti-Do, 2012 might represent the striking of a new DO
Hey James i would just like to say that i am a big fan. As a young college student i have many questions and am wondering if u give any seminars or formal talks on quantum mechanics or philosophy. Thanks James
I do want it known that this kind of thinking is not that of a visionary, but that of a crackpot hypothesis. You might like to think that you're a great thinker, but believe me, this kind of thinking is not new, it's actually quite outdated. It's seems a clever scapegoat, however, to say that you can't show me the evidence. If that's the case, I nor anyone else has any reason to believe you.
animals and ,indeed ,all 'living' forms have a soul nature...nothing ,not a stone ,nail or anything else appearing in your reality exists but for it's non-physical conscious 'conterpart--Nothing exists outside of consciousness!
No! A nail has 'nail' nature a stone 'stone' nature. I tell you EVERYTHING that you perceive emminates from consciousness and has a conscious 'counterpart' that is unseen and from which it (each 'thing') emerges!
Sane enough not to believe some fantastic idiosy that Our present experience with it's poetry,altruism,love ,philosophy,beauty,wonder,synchronicity and joy all arose from a meaningless,creatorless primordial 'dust' cloud that,itself,is a mindless self ceation devoid of meaning or design ...now THAT is insane thinking!
Not really. I think it all can easily be explained through evolution. I don't think it's meaningless. Granted is has no scientific meaning, but the meaning is what I make it. I'm not a nihilist, Im an atheist.
Evolution appears to be fact on the physical level. What science terms "evolution" is the physical expression of a higher reality that is formed Consciously and than expressed into our physical experience through aaaaaaa purly mental phenomenon that we interpret as time...There are not nor have there ever been found any transitional forms...the varying species abruptly appear or manifest into physicality discontinuously in a form of a 'punctuated equilibrium
You're talking about the Cambrian explosion? You really think the Cambrian explosion is evidence for god? No. It's a period of about 6-9 million years. That's a pretty slow explosion. We have THOUSANDS of transitional fossils. Evolution eliminates the need for a god to have done it, by pure natural processes. You're attaching something to it that need not be there. It's stupidity.
Look,we will not convince oneanother...But you mistate my point. There are no transitional forms at all! The motive force of "evolution" is Ono-physical and lies outside of and beyond space-time. Physicist Max Planck ( the Nobel prize winning 'father' of Quantum physics said : " There is no matter as such. All matter exists only by virtue of (a) force. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind"
Why must you assume an intelligent or conscious mind? Why can't it have a natural explanation? And by the way, science is closer to figuring that out. Heisenberg uncertainty principal. Look it up.
I both read and footnoted his book -Physics and Philosophy_ it is obvious that you have not or you didn't understand it..Will be out of town till tues. June 23rd...I suggest that you 'bone up' on your reading before engaging me again - you begin to bore me
I love how you said wrong and didn't refute the argument. You're like a little kid. LALALALA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. NOPE!!! YOU'RE WRONG!!!
Care to elaborate? Maybe you should read up on evolution, and quit being an ignorant ass coming up with bogus spiritual bullshit that makes no sense to even the semi-educated.
You clearly haven't even looked at WIKI for the definition of evolution. I mean, do a ilttle research. We have thousands of transitional fossils. Get off your lazy shit ass and look.
Well , your use of language reveals your fear and inadequacy ..were your parents as foul mouthed as you ? You don't understand evolution ,it's meaning nor it's limitations...Look ; evolution/natural selection miss the 'forest for the trees'
I don't really know what "foul mouth" you're talking about. At any rate, I understand more about evolution than you know. Enough to probably write a book. I could educate you, but you probably don't give a fuck. (see, now that's foul)
Wow , your ego matches your mouth (big and empty) Why bother with my site...with your huge intellect and superior knowledge why not teach ;in any event please get lost as your immaturity is boorish
Here's a concept. Talking to you didn't convince me to even consider going to your website. If you had established any kind of rapport with me, I might have been interested. Instead, you just seemed to have a complete lack of knowledge about science, which turned me off completely. So it has nothing to do with ego, just *your* lack of salesmanship.
In his younger life he was definitely a Christian, and studied for the Ministry at university. In later life, his belief definitely decreased, particularly with the death of his beloved daughter. He did not talk or write about religion, but he did not attend church in his later days. It would be plausible to believe he died an atheist or agnostic. The story about his deathbed conversion to Catholicism is definitely made up.
I agree that there are other dimensional planes. The metaphor of 2D is understandable but impossible. At any rate, prove that our sould is on another dimensional level and I'd be more inclined to believe you. Our you could first prove that we have a soul. The 4th dimension is time, and we all have more than our known existence in time, much like your metaphor, in time we have height length and width in time. We just aren't aware of it. But where does a soul suddenly come in?
Your Soul is the source of who you are. The known self is You in chemical 'clothes' The true self (soul) 'sits' outside of space-time and projects a portion of what it is into the 'physical' dimension, which projection you recognise as yourself We are in physical reality to learn that our energy,translated into feelings ,thoughts and emotions creates all physical experience-there are no exceptions
But you have no evidence for this? Not only that but you just seem to be labeling the soul as self. We already have a word for "self", and that's "self". We are a product of the chemicals that make us up. Show me the evidence. Also, don't label known things as other things. It's pointless. Like calling god, love. We already have a word for love, and that's love.
I cannot "show" you the evidence you want. Soul is 'more' than self...your soul is composed of selves-yet your soul is more than the sum of it's selves
wow the pool table example is awesome, the ball thought it was disc all its life, untill it fell down the hole and realised it was what it always was, a ball. So what your saying is we dont no what we are but will find out when we die
I would like to stress that actaully being unaware of the larger reality of the soul is quite by design. Moreover, experimenting with such concepts can lead to total catastrophy. Typically occult practices triggers other levels of consciousness which may entirely confuse the order of the soul and cause chaos of the mind. It is extremely dangerous. I was put out of a functional reality for 6 years just by a few moments of experimenting in that field of transcendent practices.
hello there, I would like to know what are your views regarding the BBC documentary:"ATOM:the illusion of reality" (also available here on YOUTUBE). Further, I would like to know how do things like LOVE, HATE and EMOTIONS feature in the mix.
Quantum physics establishes that particles and waves(and therefore physical reality) manifests in 'accordance' with the expectations of the observer. The observer must be beyond/'above'the physical phenomenon that the observer 'meta-programs' and is therefore extant at a 'higher' level
There are many differend ways to prove that we have a soul,but I'm afraid that our energy is unconcious energy,that soul is just a poetic wordt for what we are not able to explain yet.
And who has proven really that there are in fact other dimensions?
Mr. Traitz I had contacted you before. I very much appreciate your lessons when I need a quick dose of enlightenment! Thank you. Great stuff, and thank you for taking the time to articulate, tape and upload this great info in easy to digest bite sized chunks!!!
You need to ask yourself why you are so bothered.I do note what a profound effect I have had on you.Your anger results from my offering views and knowledge that you find threatening to your comfort level.
I knew that I would 'draw you out' by 'poking' you a bit.You well illustrate what Gurdjieff spoke about.Identification,internal considering,expression of negative emotion,self-indulged and self-important-you've got it all!
You offer nothing of value.Sarcastic and intellectually repressed,your fear and imagined self-importance makes you 'lash out' at those who may offer enlightenment
The observer which collapses (Schroedinger) wave functions,the 'dream traveler', the inner voice who "knows", the astounding acts that at times occur at moments of extreme crisis or stress ,experiences with'dead' loved ones,altruism,heroism,'miracle' cures sudden intuitions,life changing realizations,sudden insights/inspirations from the dream state--all acts of the soul-the true self- beyond time ,beyond the brain ,beyond matter,beyond space.
Why do you find the existance of the soul so threatening? Your soul is real-it is your body that is a camouflage pattern of energy produced and created by your soul,out of the electromagnetic 'fabric' of three dimensional reality.
We are not simply playing the movie;we ENTER it and assume a role and not just one movie but many in many 'times' and places throughout the ages all simultaneously. We then 'move on'-the role recurrs as does our body but our higher centers have graduated(hopefully-as it takes work)to higher roles, other individuals will then 'play' our role Just as different actors can portray the same role e.g.Tarzan or robin hood or each of us-the 'new' us will be a different us then what we were in that role!
You continue to misquote me. I suggest that anyone reading your comments carefully re-read my words to judge what I ,in fact, have said! Do you have a philosophy of your own other than parroting what official mainstream science currently believes? What you call "error" is free will and choices. There is ,however,spiritual ignorance. Then again science once,mistakenly,believed that space and time were seperate and independant..once believed that particles and waves were different entities(con't)
Science thought that sub-atomic behavior existed apart from the observer;thought that space extended lineraly,didn't realize that gravity curves space itself. I suspect that you-catherbi2-have an agenda with your invovement here.I do not block you as you provide a platform for me to illustrate the limiting beliefs of the exoteric man-the produt of the influences of others-afraid to even consider the spiritual realm!
Not true.I never said my work is not scientifically based---those were YOUR words. Science is limited.I,like many others,go beyond science's limits into a realm of greater truths that are beyond the reach of science. I am unconcernrd with liability as what I teach is real.Like many critics you offer nothing but adherence to fundamentalist scientific doctrine-is it any wonder that throughout history orthodox scientists resisted,even condemned those that broke through and transformed science
Thankyou for your comment.I agree that my material goes beyond strict conventional science,but it is necessary to do so due to the limits of science. Science itself acknowledges that it does not deal with ultimate beginnings or origins such as what came before the big bang.There are realities beyond the true/false dichotomy-yet science operates in an arena of true vs false verification;therefore there are realities and experiences that are literally beyond the reach and scope of science.
To my 'readers' catherbi2 is usfull to illustrate what Gurdjieff called "man#3"- all intellectual center but an underdeveloped Being.Full of scientific 'fact' he is ready to dismiss all that does not comport -as fanatically fundamentalist as any cult-He holds all the answers ;yet his answers do not satisfy,they offer no solice. All knowledge and no wisdom!
I have answered your questions-you didn't really want to hear the answers. Like the story of the man who sat with a teacher -already so full of himself-the master said we first will have tea; as the master poured the cup he continued-overflowing the cup.When the man asked why he did this the master replied:"Like this cup you are alreary full of your own conclusions-you must first empty your cup if I am to be able to pour in any knowledge"
I am not saying that the universe has free will because of the uncertainty principle.The uncertainty principle merely defines/describes randomness.Before space/time there was cosciousness-the creator of randomness- by virtue of the very nature of consciousness! Space-time is a creation of consciousness for the enjoyment,delight and experience that it provides us, as multi-dimensional souls which then projects a 'portion' of itself into physical/space-time that we experience as our lives here!
the "uncertainty principle" or randomness are the ingredients of free will. Before the universe existed there existed consciousness; before time,before space, before 'thinghood',before particles,before the 'big bang' the "I AM" of consciousness was eternally Present.
There is randomness because the universe and everything in it is composed of living consciousness;the nature of consciousness is 'freewheeling' and spontaneous forming the reality that we experience in accordance with the thoughts and emotions of each,individually and enmass. Without randomness creation would 'smother' itself in a stagnant 'deadend' predictability.
Particle/waves and all events are "statisticaly revealed potentialities" manifesting at the instant of observation or measurement! Young's double slit experiment revealed that ALL interactions behave in a predictable ,verifiable 'pattern'-when as a group or en-mass,however when you 'watch'any given single entity/particle/event it occurs randomly! When photons of light strike a double slit they form interference patterns on the photographic plate,YET, when you shut either of the slits
They behave as tiny pellets. We were firing INDIVIDUAL photons how could they 'know' to strike areas that are 'dark' when both slits are open!? We use to think that electrons were tiny 'bits' of matter called particles we have learned that electrons are 'wave like' AND they 'jump' between shell levels without moving between ,they somehow Quantum Leap between each-discontinuously- Reality 'flashes'on and off between discrete states
Hi James! I just want to say that I find your videos very interesting and I like the approach you use, I think it's very senseful. I'll finish watching them and I'll have a couple of questions to ask you.
vdizhoor, if the brain is all there is to our consciousness then that would mean before we were born we did not exist.
If you do not exist as a conscious entity then you have no position/locality.
This brings up the logical question:
If you had no locality/position before birth then why would you be born in your specific brain/body, instead of any of the countless brain/bodies that preceded your birth?
Its a loaded question, Anduin. When you say "you are born in your specific brain" you are assuming a distinction that you are trying to deduce.
Other bodies and brains also have a "you" or "self" or "I" experience. None is special. Each is a natural result of brain activity.
As an analogy, think of a "self" as a process. Like a waterfall, which is not an object, but a process resulting from interaction of other object - rock, water, earth's mass. Something more than the sum of its parts.
That too is an assumption. The assumption you make is that consciousness must be in the brain, but since science cannot explain how the brain generates consciousness you state 'it must be the sum of the parts.' That's not so different from what I did, you just stated your original hypothesis in other words.
What does the brain consist of? Neurotransmitters, brain cells, electrical impulses, and various chemicals to regulate activity.
You can make some deductions about the brain. First, the neurotransmitters are tools the brain cells use to communicate. Neurotransmitters are not 'you.' Electrical impulses are not 'you' either given electricity is simply electrons in motion. Both neurotransmitters are electricity are then tools for your brain cells to communicate.
Sure, composing parts may change entirely. Their emergent property is what's important.
How can a river remain in its banks while all of its composing parts keep changing? Why do we not change its name when it is frozen, or dried up for a season?
Nations continue existing even when generations die out replaced by new ones over the centuries.
Just because something singular has changing parts, it doesn't mean there is something supernatural behind its singular nature.
If the matter of your brain can be completely replaced, and you can remain the conscious observer then I say bring back your cryogenic analogy. If a froze somebody, removed their entire brain, and replaced their entire brain with an identically structured brain composed of foreign matter, would they be the conscious observer? They would have to be, because what I've done is simply an accelerated process of what happens to us every 7 years.
He is certainly well expressed, but he is not correct, and certainly not "of course". If there were an "of course" about any of this, this wouldn't be a topic for discussion through all of history.
He IS at least trying to discover what is the truth, which none of us ultimately KNOWS by the way.
Although SOME ;) of us do pander personal answers that are supported not by facts but by our desires for them to be correct, offering comforting notions instead of arguments.
Anduin, your questions assume the answer, when you say things like "replace your entire brain" and then go on to ask "would they be the conscious observer"? You are implicitly stating that "they" are somehow outside from "their brain".
Think of it this way: if "they" are a function of a brain
If your "self" is a function of your brain. As my "self" is another "you" that is a function of my brain (ignoring the linguistic possessives of course :) ) then the question is meaningless.
"Jump" implies a separate thing called consciousness which is "inside" the brain somewhere. It can move "from" brain to "somewhere". But a material view is that it is merely a process, emergent from interaction of physical components. A process is not a thing that can jump. Does a river jump somewhere from year to year while its waters change? Does a nation jump as its population is replaced through the centuries?
I am not saying that "we" ARE our brain cells, but that "we" are our brain cells INTERACTING. The process of brain cells interacting is what creates an experience of consciousness.
A loose analogy: People don't make up a nation, but people interacting, making laws, exchanging ideas, trading, etc. make up a nation. Also, waterfall is not water BEING, but water FALLING.
Sure, we are both stating opinions, but I am not supposing anything supernatural about the soul, while you are asserting its dualistic and supernatural properties and then also trying to "argue" for them.
I am simply stating that your present reasoning is circular. You may even be correct, hypothetically, but your current argument is insufficient since it assumes the conclusion, which is, I admit, desirable (perhaps because of the idea of afterlife).
We know that our brains are completely replaced every 7 years, and we know we've lived beyond 7 years and remained the conscious observer. If there is no separation between you being conscious and the brain the interchangability of matter would bring up many questions.
So what I've gathered you're essentially saying from my example is yes, you would regain consciousness if your brain were replaced, because there would be an active brain despite it being composed of different matter. It would simply be an accelerated process of what happens to us every 7 years.
If your brain is replaced by an identical brain there would still be distance between the two brains, but that should not matter right? So it should not matter to the extreme. If your body were to be cloned and taken to the other side of the world and your brain is annihilated, but an exact duplicate is produced and inserted into the brainless body. Following the reasoning from my first example you would regain consciousness on the other side of the world.
What about time? If you freeze somebody and replace their brain with different matter, that still takes a duration of time. So, it should also be repeatable to the extreme. If you annihilate their brain, wait for a few million years, recreate their brain, and revive them, they should have no problem regaining consciousness at that time and place. It would be similar to a cryogenic patient being frozen and revived at a later date.
However our brain is not a static organ, it's constantly changing through life. The structure and data in our brain is entirely different from the structure and data that existed in our brains when we were children. So, if you were to freeze your brain and 'alter' it very slightly, would it still be you?
If not, then one could say we die every moment our brain changes. Boxers die whenever they take a shot to the head, clearly not the case... it would have to still be your 'self'.
So, certain structural changes to the brain can occur, and we will remain the conscious observer. Brain changes are quite normal. So how much change can occur before we no longer are the conscious observer? Before consciousness ceases? If you base that off of medical cases of brain trauma quite a bit. People have recovered from dramatic and violent changes and despite losing memory, abilities, ect, they did not lose their 'self.'
If you follow that line of logic to completion then as long as your brain exists at any time (forward), anywhere, with a structure resembling your brain with a certain amount of allowable change (to the limit!) you will regain consciousness when it is revived.
If time and location do not make a different, and structure is modifiable to an unknown degree, then would the brain even need to be similar to yours? A physical mechanism that contains or creates consciousness is entirely speculatory, therefore it is also unknown what kind of structures could potentially contain a 'self'.
i really enjoy listening to these, thank you for putting these videos onto youtube. i'm very grateful. :)
TheTrustinFreedom 3 weeks ago
@TheTrustinFreedom thank you
JamesJTraitz 3 weeks ago
I thought that was a really good video and I'm surprised that there are so many negative comments here.
I would guess that many of the people making the negative comments consider themselves "Christians" and believe they are going to "Heaven". Well, isn't "Heaven" another dimension?
Just because you can't see something with your physical eyes doesn't mean it's not there.
When I dream, I feel i'm in another dimension.
billsf94131 4 months ago
@billsf94131 Quite right! (the) many worlds theory of quantum physics = " in God's house there are many mansions"
JamesJTraitz 4 months ago
where is your soul?? i ask myself that question everytime i go to a barry white concert!
MrSersant 6 months ago
We are all basically walking memes. Once ideas in our parents consciousness, now physical, coming up with our own ideas and so on.
conquerorofbabylon 8 months ago
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conquerorofbabylon 8 months ago
@M3t4lManiac GENIUS
conquerorofbabylon 9 months ago
@conquerorofbabylon get an education
M3t4lManiac 8 months ago
@M3t4lManiac I'm getting one.
conquerorofbabylon 8 months ago
@conquerorofbabylon Clearly not a real one.
M3t4lManiac 8 months ago
@M3t4lManiac Thank you. Have a wonderful life.
conquerorofbabylon 8 months ago
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@M3t4lManiac He explained the same thing my calculus professor explained. 4d isn't something everyone can grasp. 3d is difficult for most.
conquerorofbabylon 8 months ago
@conquerorofbabylon It has got nothing to do with souls, ghosts or gods you moron.
M3t4lManiac 8 months ago
@M3t4lManiac 20th-century Dutch artist M.C. Escher. Look him up instead of billiard balls, he painted a lizard that came out of the 2d engraving and became 3d.
conquerorofbabylon 8 months ago
@conquerorofbabylon So fucking what?
M3t4lManiac 8 months ago
@M3t4lManiac Higher dimensions by Etienne Ghys, a French mathematician. I'm unable to post the link but just google the phrase. My calculus professor gave us this link about the dimensions. Scientists have been studying this longer than you've been conscious.
conquerorofbabylon 8 months ago
@conquerorofbabylon Dimensions, yes but this pseudo-scientist moron who's making these videos is talking about shit he makes up.
M3t4lManiac 8 months ago
@M3t4lManiac
LMAO! OOOHHHH! I DO NOT EXIST!
MrNytn2001 5 months ago
This ENTIRE video is a strawman, lol.
M3t4lManiac 9 months ago
Professional liar.
M3t4lManiac 9 months ago
You used the same example of Carl Sagan for the explanation of the 4th dimension. Just saying
airrocker001 10 months ago
Blowing my mind man. Awesome explanation.
conquerorofbabylon 11 months ago
@conquerorofbabylon idiot
M3t4lManiac 9 months ago
Where is the soul?
Hm... Good question.
Have you tried looking up your ass by any chance?
Wittgensteinism 11 months ago
@Wittgensteinism not there
JamesJTraitz 11 months ago
@JamesJTraitz Look again, cause that's where you pulled this description of it from.
Wittgensteinism 11 months ago
@Wittgensteinism You are committed to remaining locked into your narrow paradigm of 'official' spoon fed reality..I realize that this enables you to draw comfort from feeling any need to spiritually learn and grow..stay within the 'matrix' if you so choose ; you will continue to be one of the establishments useful idiots
JamesJTraitz 11 months ago
@JamesJTraitz lol. I suggest a book called "Everything Bad is Good For You: How Today's Popular Culture is Actually Making Us Smarter" by Steven Johnson.
Talk about narrow minded, do you see the irony in what you're doing? You've been spoonfed some pseudoscientific, pseudoreligious bullshit about how corrupt our modern way of life is. Calling it the "matrix" is yet another example of your own narrow paradigm of reality and society and you say it just like one of the many drones i've heard do so
Wittgensteinism 11 months ago
@JamesJTraitz Your misconception of the soul being some entity beyond the body is not uncommon. In fact, it's source of confusion of metaphysical topics which cause so many people to say nonsensical claims about reality. The word soul/spirit, e.g. as mentioned in the Bible, is literally translated as Breath. When people died they stopped breathing; hence they imagined the breath as the source of all life, hence "God breathed life into Man".
The word soul is meaningful only as a metaphor
Wittgensteinism 11 months ago
@JamesJTraitz I don't have any problem with people using their imagination, but coming up with fairy-tales and promoting them as truth is just really, really disgusting. You ought to visit a doctor of some kind if you think you are justified in this behaviour.
M3t4lManiac 9 months ago
@M3t4lManiac The real fairy tale is the one you"ve been told by the Darwinian evolutionists and the proponents of Freud
JamesJTraitz 9 months ago
@JamesJTraitz Oh you mean the fairy-tale that is backed up by mountains of substantial evidence? Yea I see how your bullshit claims superiority over that. If you don't "believe" in evolution you are simply uneducated and I can't help feeling sorry for you for it. You really just don't know any better.
M3t4lManiac 9 months ago
@M3t4lManiac Natural Selection is most certainly subject to debate. What we call "evolution" is the serialized manifestation into the three-dimensional framework of an 'Event' that exists 'at once' at a pre-physical or un-manifest level of being..created as a whole and appearing in our physical experience the way a movie plays out. BTW you should feel sorry for those,like yourself, that are unable(unwilling?) to see beyond the matrix
JamesJTraitz 9 months ago
@JamesJTraitz All I'm reading is bullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshit, you are not even making sense, I find it hard to believe that you wrote that book of yours by yourself. Then again you probably just plagiarised famous scientists and tworted their work to fit your bullshit. No, I should feel sorry for people like you who can't deal with reality.
M3t4lManiac 8 months ago
@M3t4lManiac If it will help you; the physical world that you perceive is composed of invisible patterns which take final form as a result of probabilities directed by consciousness
JamesJTraitz 9 months ago
@JamesJTraitz No.
M3t4lManiac 8 months ago
good video man keep up the great work
mattyarnott1 1 year ago
@mattyarnott1 have you hit your head on something?
M3t4lManiac 9 months ago
@M3t4lManiac go crawl under a rock and die....... hater.
mattyarnott1 9 months ago
Wonderful explanation
Arianiuss 1 year ago
Hey James, you must be lucky man and shud be proud that your videos cause so much protests here! haha, well done, man! :)
GeorgeGogle 1 year ago
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We are here in our bodies with amazing but limited senses, which cannot perceive beyond certain parts of the wave spectrum. I am a photographer and have used infra-red film - the world looks very different through that. Animals and birds have sense organs that perceive the world differently to us too; some see different colours and parts of the wave spectrum including UV. By extension, who is to say that there is NOT way more beyond our own senses? Our senses and our interpretations create ...
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We are here in our bodies with amazing but limited senses, which cannot perceive beyond certain parts of the wave spectrum. I am a photographer and have used infra-red film - the world looks very different through that. Animals and birds have sense organs that perceive the world differently to us too; some see different colours and parts of the wave spectrum including UV. By extension, who is to say that there is NOT way more beyond our own senses? Our senses and our interpretations create ...
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silvercat151 1 year ago
I know consciousness exists beyond the confines of the biological self because I've experienced it. Not because I read some book on the paranormal,or because I think the Dali lama is a sweet guy, or because of basic fears of some inevitable cessation of the self. science & spirituality are not oppositional forces. ignorance is the only oppositional force.
vgraham44 1 year ago
What is a soul? How do you know if it is in a Larger dimension?
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz the "light cone of physics" is not my creation. It represents a graph with time on one side and space on the other-all of physical existence 'falls' within this 'cone' It is called a "light cone" because light operates within space and time
JamesJTraitz 1 year ago
answer me this,all knowing atheists.ive had a # of precognitive dreams that later happened in the exact same sequence as the later event. same cast of characters, same day or nite setting,etc.a month or so before the actual event.how, you may ask, is that possible?because consciousness is not an object so it not subjected to the laws of three dimensional spacetime.
vgraham44 1 year ago
recently somene sald to me that they would rather read about the history of baseball statistics than what i was reading @ the time, the spirtual crisis in man.people are not aware of the existence of a soul because these matters are too subtle for most exterverted personalities to grasp..
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@thankqwerty
Quantum physics in neuroscience and psychology: a neurophysical model of
mindbrain interaction 1. Jeffrey M Schwartz1,
2. Henry P Stap
Author Affiliations:
UCLA Neuropsychiatric Institute
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, University of California, Berkeley
funglip 1 year ago
@thankqwerty I do not have a Master"s in physics
JamesJTraitz 1 year ago
what the hell is wrong with you?
footballward 1 year ago
@footballward You tell me
JamesJTraitz 1 year ago
@JamesJTraitz your making up all this scientific lingo to explain a soul. Light cone of reality? Really?
footballward 1 year ago
@footballward Yes really...I did not invent the term 'light cone of physics
JamesJTraitz 1 year ago
@JamesJTraitz Do you know what a light cone is?
gregrutz 1 year ago
@footballward Google the phrase. He didn't make it up. It's well known in physics and marketing. Sheesh.
conquerorofbabylon 8 months ago
Sir, I think it would also be helpful to use a metaphor that our "waking life" is what we see as balls on the surface of a pool table. Our death is dropping into the pocket where we go back to the entry point and are "re-racked" for another game which, thought it has the same shapes and rules, still has a very different outcome, each and every time.
After all, when confronted with a dilemma/confusion, I believe G instructed to observe the laws of the universe above and/or below.
SamFreedom 1 year ago
So do you have any ideas as to how we can become aware of the fourth dimension?
also, do you have any thoughts as to what if anything is going to happen on 2012? Or as some are teaching, is happening already?
cuervo1957 2 years ago
Via Double Attention...awareness of what you are sensing ,feeling ,thinking in any given moment....We are/have entered the beginning of a new age of dimensional expansion the effects will occur over a time period of some years 2012 represents a critical 'turning point' I do not know if the initial change will happen physically and explosively or first within the 'inner' framework BUT the changes will be physical and clear !
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
I love listening to you're stuff is there any videos you got on 2012, also I had an experience once I was floating in the midst of a white universe, before floated a great pearly white shere
maseman04 2 years ago
what I was and where I came from was very clear, I was my soul, it became one in my body after a very pleasurable yawn, or stretch, coming from my tip toes and my head joining in the middle of my stomach, and what seemed like a few seconds I was no longer in my body
maseman04 2 years ago
however I did'nt recieve the warmest welcome, in fact it was no welcome at all, and from then I knew, God is very serious when he talks about the salvation of our souls, I was a bad soul then, not so bad anymore, just an alcoholic, and i dont quit I fear I will experience a second time of such hostility, only next time I won't have the lively comforts of my body to return to
maseman04 2 years ago
also what I gathered from that experience was that I've always been around, I did'nt start 29 years ago when my mom and dad joined together and made me, I am begotten from this vast universe of energy, only Jesus was begotten from the Great white sphere, but I just like you and everyone else are etenal, we always have been, only now for a short period we get a body and enter Life 101, when our bodys die, we go back to where wqe came from, only this time as children of God capable of enjoying
maseman04 2 years ago
well, life, in the spiritual sense, we are no longer mindless forms of energy, we go back as vibrant, capable lively beings, my opinion on the meaning of life is to just live a pious simple life, die and go back where we came from, but if we choose to be ungodly, like myself for now, we will eternally be seperated from God experience a hell no man has ever been capable of enduring on humanity, and if one does'nt believe he wiil a very rude awakening one day
maseman04 2 years ago
@JamesJTraitz it seems to me that we're coming to the end of an octave whose Mi-Fa was the SuperEffort required by the Allied Powers to overcome the expanding influence of the nazis. Ti-Do, seems to have been 9/11, which has led to, yet again, another super effort to curb the expansion of rising Islamo-fascism (who, by the way, were in cahoots with the Hitler, see: grand mufti and Hitler). It only makes sense that now that we are crossing Ti-Do, 2012 might represent the striking of a new DO
SamFreedom 1 year ago
2d duse not work in the ferst person you only see a line
marq46 2 years ago
A poor analogy of "Flatland"; keep trying.
MisterEvil1 2 years ago
Thanks , I will.....Incidently , I never saw /read "Flatland" nor have I drawn any of my ideas therefrom
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
Hey James i would just like to say that i am a big fan. As a young college student i have many questions and am wondering if u give any seminars or formal talks on quantum mechanics or philosophy. Thanks James
Blazen1212 2 years ago
I do want it known that this kind of thinking is not that of a visionary, but that of a crackpot hypothesis. You might like to think that you're a great thinker, but believe me, this kind of thinking is not new, it's actually quite outdated. It's seems a clever scapegoat, however, to say that you can't show me the evidence. If that's the case, I nor anyone else has any reason to believe you.
tubajedimaster 2 years ago
You are free to go
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
I'd like to know at what point during evolution did souls come into play? Do you think every animal has a soul? Or just people?
tubajedimaster 2 years ago
animals and ,indeed ,all 'living' forms have a soul nature...nothing ,not a stone ,nail or anything else appearing in your reality exists but for it's non-physical conscious 'conterpart--Nothing exists outside of consciousness!
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
Another blind assertion. Does it ever end?
riseofatheism 2 years ago
I mean seriously you make it sound as though a nail is aware it's a nail. A stone is aware it's a stone. Bullox.
riseofatheism 2 years ago
No! A nail has 'nail' nature a stone 'stone' nature. I tell you EVERYTHING that you perceive emminates from consciousness and has a conscious 'counterpart' that is unseen and from which it (each 'thing') emerges!
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
Yep. You're insane.
riseofatheism 2 years ago
Sane enough not to believe some fantastic idiosy that Our present experience with it's poetry,altruism,love ,philosophy,beauty,wonder,synchronicity and joy all arose from a meaningless,creatorless primordial 'dust' cloud that,itself,is a mindless self ceation devoid of meaning or design ...now THAT is insane thinking!
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
Not really. I think it all can easily be explained through evolution. I don't think it's meaningless. Granted is has no scientific meaning, but the meaning is what I make it. I'm not a nihilist, Im an atheist.
riseofatheism 2 years ago
But "evolution" is flawed and " Natural selection" is pure fantasy...Darwin believed that God directed evolution-He was quite right
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
Really? How do you figure? I'm betting you know nothing about it. Since that's really what you think. Evolution is fact.
riseofatheism 2 years ago
Evolution appears to be fact on the physical level. What science terms "evolution" is the physical expression of a higher reality that is formed Consciously and than expressed into our physical experience through aaaaaaa purly mental phenomenon that we interpret as time...There are not nor have there ever been found any transitional forms...the varying species abruptly appear or manifest into physicality discontinuously in a form of a 'punctuated equilibrium
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
You're talking about the Cambrian explosion? You really think the Cambrian explosion is evidence for god? No. It's a period of about 6-9 million years. That's a pretty slow explosion. We have THOUSANDS of transitional fossils. Evolution eliminates the need for a god to have done it, by pure natural processes. You're attaching something to it that need not be there. It's stupidity.
riseofatheism 2 years ago
Look,we will not convince oneanother...But you mistate my point. There are no transitional forms at all! The motive force of "evolution" is Ono-physical and lies outside of and beyond space-time. Physicist Max Planck ( the Nobel prize winning 'father' of Quantum physics said : " There is no matter as such. All matter exists only by virtue of (a) force. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind"
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
There are transitional forms. Every generation is transitional. Period.
riseofatheism 2 years ago
Wrong again ! It is difficult to dialogue with a semi-informed indoctrinated individual
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
Why must you assume an intelligent or conscious mind? Why can't it have a natural explanation? And by the way, science is closer to figuring that out. Heisenberg uncertainty principal. Look it up.
riseofatheism 2 years ago
I both read and footnoted his book -Physics and Philosophy_ it is obvious that you have not or you didn't understand it..Will be out of town till tues. June 23rd...I suggest that you 'bone up' on your reading before engaging me again - you begin to bore me
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
I love how you said wrong and didn't refute the argument. You're like a little kid. LALALALA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. NOPE!!! YOU'RE WRONG!!!
Care to elaborate? Maybe you should read up on evolution, and quit being an ignorant ass coming up with bogus spiritual bullshit that makes no sense to even the semi-educated.
You clearly haven't even looked at WIKI for the definition of evolution. I mean, do a ilttle research. We have thousands of transitional fossils. Get off your lazy shit ass and look.
riseofatheism 2 years ago
Well , your use of language reveals your fear and inadequacy ..were your parents as foul mouthed as you ? You don't understand evolution ,it's meaning nor it's limitations...Look ; evolution/natural selection miss the 'forest for the trees'
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
I don't really know what "foul mouth" you're talking about. At any rate, I understand more about evolution than you know. Enough to probably write a book. I could educate you, but you probably don't give a fuck. (see, now that's foul)
tubajedimaster 2 years ago
Wow , your ego matches your mouth (big and empty) Why bother with my site...with your huge intellect and superior knowledge why not teach ;in any event please get lost as your immaturity is boorish
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
Here's a concept. Talking to you didn't convince me to even consider going to your website. If you had established any kind of rapport with me, I might have been interested. Instead, you just seemed to have a complete lack of knowledge about science, which turned me off completely. So it has nothing to do with ego, just *your* lack of salesmanship.
riseofatheism 2 years ago
That"s fine...I respect your opinion
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
@riseofatheism and what do you make of your reply?
SamFreedom 1 year ago
In his younger life he was definitely a Christian, and studied for the Ministry at university. In later life, his belief definitely decreased, particularly with the death of his beloved daughter. He did not talk or write about religion, but he did not attend church in his later days. It would be plausible to believe he died an atheist or agnostic. The story about his deathbed conversion to Catholicism is definitely made up.
riseofatheism 2 years ago
I agree that there are other dimensional planes. The metaphor of 2D is understandable but impossible. At any rate, prove that our sould is on another dimensional level and I'd be more inclined to believe you. Our you could first prove that we have a soul. The 4th dimension is time, and we all have more than our known existence in time, much like your metaphor, in time we have height length and width in time. We just aren't aware of it. But where does a soul suddenly come in?
riseofatheism 2 years ago
Your Soul is the source of who you are. The known self is You in chemical 'clothes' The true self (soul) 'sits' outside of space-time and projects a portion of what it is into the 'physical' dimension, which projection you recognise as yourself We are in physical reality to learn that our energy,translated into feelings ,thoughts and emotions creates all physical experience-there are no exceptions
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
But you have no evidence for this? Not only that but you just seem to be labeling the soul as self. We already have a word for "self", and that's "self". We are a product of the chemicals that make us up. Show me the evidence. Also, don't label known things as other things. It's pointless. Like calling god, love. We already have a word for love, and that's love.
tubajedimaster 2 years ago
I cannot "show" you the evidence you want. Soul is 'more' than self...your soul is composed of selves-yet your soul is more than the sum of it's selves
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
But you don't really know that. You just assert it. You believe that on faith? You're analogy is clever, but really holds no water.
tubajedimaster 2 years ago
i feel you.i understand.i to was like that.you have been enlightened.
youngcatlaflare 2 years ago
wow the pool table example is awesome, the ball thought it was disc all its life, untill it fell down the hole and realised it was what it always was, a ball. So what your saying is we dont no what we are but will find out when we die
codetrooper 3 years ago
I would like to stress that actaully being unaware of the larger reality of the soul is quite by design. Moreover, experimenting with such concepts can lead to total catastrophy. Typically occult practices triggers other levels of consciousness which may entirely confuse the order of the soul and cause chaos of the mind. It is extremely dangerous. I was put out of a functional reality for 6 years just by a few moments of experimenting in that field of transcendent practices.
Casar1973 3 years ago
would also like to know if your book is available in the Czech republic or South Africa (Am originaly from S.A. but Studying in CZ)
imbabazane 3 years ago
hello there, I would like to know what are your views regarding the BBC documentary:"ATOM:the illusion of reality" (also available here on YOUTUBE). Further, I would like to know how do things like LOVE, HATE and EMOTIONS feature in the mix.
imbabazane 3 years ago
How do you know that soul is in larger dimension?
voi7 3 years ago
Quantum physics establishes that particles and waves(and therefore physical reality) manifests in 'accordance' with the expectations of the observer. The observer must be beyond/'above'the physical phenomenon that the observer 'meta-programs' and is therefore extant at a 'higher' level
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
fascinating stuff i will read your book.
But we are only humans and there for very limited in many ways to percept somthing corectly that's why is so many diffrent wiews
on religions,philosophies.... out there.
sorry for my english.
Regards
voi7 3 years ago
There are many differend ways to prove that we have a soul,but I'm afraid that our energy is unconcious energy,that soul is just a poetic wordt for what we are not able to explain yet.
And who has proven really that there are in fact other dimensions?
Pantora10 3 years ago
what about the other 8 dimensions?
rikestard 3 years ago
Great movie thanks for posting!
freethinker77 3 years ago
where is your soul, everywhere sphericaly. yep spheres i like that.
circle559 3 years ago
Mr. Traitz I had contacted you before. I very much appreciate your lessons when I need a quick dose of enlightenment! Thank you. Great stuff, and thank you for taking the time to articulate, tape and upload this great info in easy to digest bite sized chunks!!!
crescentridge 3 years ago
My earlier comment remains.
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
You need to ask yourself why you are so bothered.I do note what a profound effect I have had on you.Your anger results from my offering views and knowledge that you find threatening to your comfort level.
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Why do you fear that others find solace and benefit in my words?
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
You were so easy to reveal.
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
I knew that I would 'draw you out' by 'poking' you a bit.You well illustrate what Gurdjieff spoke about.Identification,internal considering,expression of negative emotion,self-indulged and self-important-you've got it all!
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
You offer nothing of value.Sarcastic and intellectually repressed,your fear and imagined self-importance makes you 'lash out' at those who may offer enlightenment
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
The observer which collapses (Schroedinger) wave functions,the 'dream traveler', the inner voice who "knows", the astounding acts that at times occur at moments of extreme crisis or stress ,experiences with'dead' loved ones,altruism,heroism,'miracle' cures sudden intuitions,life changing realizations,sudden insights/inspirations from the dream state--all acts of the soul-the true self- beyond time ,beyond the brain ,beyond matter,beyond space.
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Why do you find the existance of the soul so threatening? Your soul is real-it is your body that is a camouflage pattern of energy produced and created by your soul,out of the electromagnetic 'fabric' of three dimensional reality.
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
We are not simply playing the movie;we ENTER it and assume a role and not just one movie but many in many 'times' and places throughout the ages all simultaneously. We then 'move on'-the role recurrs as does our body but our higher centers have graduated(hopefully-as it takes work)to higher roles, other individuals will then 'play' our role Just as different actors can portray the same role e.g.Tarzan or robin hood or each of us-the 'new' us will be a different us then what we were in that role!
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Yes a projector,yet much more! You however do seem to get what I am trying to explain.
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
I accept you on your word-no agenda-welcome then.I am not perfect,I do,however try to aim for excellence
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
You continue to misquote me. I suggest that anyone reading your comments carefully re-read my words to judge what I ,in fact, have said! Do you have a philosophy of your own other than parroting what official mainstream science currently believes? What you call "error" is free will and choices. There is ,however,spiritual ignorance. Then again science once,mistakenly,believed that space and time were seperate and independant..once believed that particles and waves were different entities(con't)
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Science thought that sub-atomic behavior existed apart from the observer;thought that space extended lineraly,didn't realize that gravity curves space itself. I suspect that you-catherbi2-have an agenda with your invovement here.I do not block you as you provide a platform for me to illustrate the limiting beliefs of the exoteric man-the produt of the influences of others-afraid to even consider the spiritual realm!
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Not true.I never said my work is not scientifically based---those were YOUR words. Science is limited.I,like many others,go beyond science's limits into a realm of greater truths that are beyond the reach of science. I am unconcernrd with liability as what I teach is real.Like many critics you offer nothing but adherence to fundamentalist scientific doctrine-is it any wonder that throughout history orthodox scientists resisted,even condemned those that broke through and transformed science
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Thankyou for your comment.I agree that my material goes beyond strict conventional science,but it is necessary to do so due to the limits of science. Science itself acknowledges that it does not deal with ultimate beginnings or origins such as what came before the big bang.There are realities beyond the true/false dichotomy-yet science operates in an arena of true vs false verification;therefore there are realities and experiences that are literally beyond the reach and scope of science.
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
To my 'readers' catherbi2 is usfull to illustrate what Gurdjieff called "man#3"- all intellectual center but an underdeveloped Being.Full of scientific 'fact' he is ready to dismiss all that does not comport -as fanatically fundamentalist as any cult-He holds all the answers ;yet his answers do not satisfy,they offer no solice. All knowledge and no wisdom!
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
I am not angry;however I prefer not to waste energy on those with an agenda nor those who become rude e.g.your last comment:"your psuedoscience"
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
I have answered your questions-you didn't really want to hear the answers. Like the story of the man who sat with a teacher -already so full of himself-the master said we first will have tea; as the master poured the cup he continued-overflowing the cup.When the man asked why he did this the master replied:"Like this cup you are alreary full of your own conclusions-you must first empty your cup if I am to be able to pour in any knowledge"
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
I am not saying that the universe has free will because of the uncertainty principle.The uncertainty principle merely defines/describes randomness.Before space/time there was cosciousness-the creator of randomness- by virtue of the very nature of consciousness! Space-time is a creation of consciousness for the enjoyment,delight and experience that it provides us, as multi-dimensional souls which then projects a 'portion' of itself into physical/space-time that we experience as our lives here!
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
the "uncertainty principle" or randomness are the ingredients of free will. Before the universe existed there existed consciousness; before time,before space, before 'thinghood',before particles,before the 'big bang' the "I AM" of consciousness was eternally Present.
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
There is randomness because the universe and everything in it is composed of living consciousness;the nature of consciousness is 'freewheeling' and spontaneous forming the reality that we experience in accordance with the thoughts and emotions of each,individually and enmass. Without randomness creation would 'smother' itself in a stagnant 'deadend' predictability.
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Particle/waves and all events are "statisticaly revealed potentialities" manifesting at the instant of observation or measurement! Young's double slit experiment revealed that ALL interactions behave in a predictable ,verifiable 'pattern'-when as a group or en-mass,however when you 'watch'any given single entity/particle/event it occurs randomly! When photons of light strike a double slit they form interference patterns on the photographic plate,YET, when you shut either of the slits
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
They behave as tiny pellets. We were firing INDIVIDUAL photons how could they 'know' to strike areas that are 'dark' when both slits are open!? We use to think that electrons were tiny 'bits' of matter called particles we have learned that electrons are 'wave like' AND they 'jump' between shell levels without moving between ,they somehow Quantum Leap between each-discontinuously- Reality 'flashes'on and off between discrete states
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Hi James! I just want to say that I find your videos very interesting and I like the approach you use, I think it's very senseful. I'll finish watching them and I'll have a couple of questions to ask you.
abigorswhispers 3 years ago
Very well.
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
James, I think you are just making stuff up on the spot :).
I guess we'll never agree.
But thanks for the discussion.
Take care,
vdizhoor 4 years ago
vdizhoor, if the brain is all there is to our consciousness then that would mean before we were born we did not exist.
If you do not exist as a conscious entity then you have no position/locality.
This brings up the logical question:
If you had no locality/position before birth then why would you be born in your specific brain/body, instead of any of the countless brain/bodies that preceded your birth?
AnduinX 3 years ago
What I mean is, why is the conscious observer bound to one brain instead of any of the others that came before it's conception?
AnduinX 3 years ago
again, you are assuming what you are questioning.
vdizhoor 3 years ago
Its a loaded question, Anduin. When you say "you are born in your specific brain" you are assuming a distinction that you are trying to deduce.
Other bodies and brains also have a "you" or "self" or "I" experience. None is special. Each is a natural result of brain activity.
As an analogy, think of a "self" as a process. Like a waterfall, which is not an object, but a process resulting from interaction of other object - rock, water, earth's mass. Something more than the sum of its parts.
vdizhoor 3 years ago
That too is an assumption. The assumption you make is that consciousness must be in the brain, but since science cannot explain how the brain generates consciousness you state 'it must be the sum of the parts.' That's not so different from what I did, you just stated your original hypothesis in other words.
AnduinX 3 years ago
What does the brain consist of? Neurotransmitters, brain cells, electrical impulses, and various chemicals to regulate activity.
You can make some deductions about the brain. First, the neurotransmitters are tools the brain cells use to communicate. Neurotransmitters are not 'you.' Electrical impulses are not 'you' either given electricity is simply electrons in motion. Both neurotransmitters are electricity are then tools for your brain cells to communicate.
AnduinX 3 years ago
When it gets down to what 'you' could be, from a materialistic point of view it would have to be the brain cells themselves.
If the matter in our brain is replaced every few years, then how can 'we' be our brain if none of the original matter that composes it remains?
AnduinX 3 years ago
Sure, composing parts may change entirely. Their emergent property is what's important.
How can a river remain in its banks while all of its composing parts keep changing? Why do we not change its name when it is frozen, or dried up for a season?
Nations continue existing even when generations die out replaced by new ones over the centuries.
Just because something singular has changing parts, it doesn't mean there is something supernatural behind its singular nature.
vdizhoor 3 years ago
If the matter of your brain can be completely replaced, and you can remain the conscious observer then I say bring back your cryogenic analogy. If a froze somebody, removed their entire brain, and replaced their entire brain with an identically structured brain composed of foreign matter, would they be the conscious observer? They would have to be, because what I've done is simply an accelerated process of what happens to us every 7 years.
AnduinX 3 years ago
In that situation how would consciousness make the jump from one brain to another if consciousness is physical in nature?
AnduinX 3 years ago
AnduinX is of course correct and very well expressed
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
He is certainly well expressed, but he is not correct, and certainly not "of course". If there were an "of course" about any of this, this wouldn't be a topic for discussion through all of history.
He IS at least trying to discover what is the truth, which none of us ultimately KNOWS by the way.
Although SOME ;) of us do pander personal answers that are supported not by facts but by our desires for them to be correct, offering comforting notions instead of arguments.
vdizhoor 3 years ago
Anduin, your questions assume the answer, when you say things like "replace your entire brain" and then go on to ask "would they be the conscious observer"? You are implicitly stating that "they" are somehow outside from "their brain".
Think of it this way: if "they" are a function of a brain
If your "self" is a function of your brain. As my "self" is another "you" that is a function of my brain (ignoring the linguistic possessives of course :) ) then the question is meaningless.
vdizhoor 3 years ago
The "jump" is a dualistic problem, not material.
"Jump" implies a separate thing called consciousness which is "inside" the brain somewhere. It can move "from" brain to "somewhere". But a material view is that it is merely a process, emergent from interaction of physical components. A process is not a thing that can jump. Does a river jump somewhere from year to year while its waters change? Does a nation jump as its population is replaced through the centuries?
vdizhoor 3 years ago
I am not saying that "we" ARE our brain cells, but that "we" are our brain cells INTERACTING. The process of brain cells interacting is what creates an experience of consciousness.
A loose analogy: People don't make up a nation, but people interacting, making laws, exchanging ideas, trading, etc. make up a nation. Also, waterfall is not water BEING, but water FALLING.
vdizhoor 3 years ago
Sure, we are both stating opinions, but I am not supposing anything supernatural about the soul, while you are asserting its dualistic and supernatural properties and then also trying to "argue" for them.
I am simply stating that your present reasoning is circular. You may even be correct, hypothetically, but your current argument is insufficient since it assumes the conclusion, which is, I admit, desirable (perhaps because of the idea of afterlife).
vdizhoor 3 years ago
We know that our brains are completely replaced every 7 years, and we know we've lived beyond 7 years and remained the conscious observer. If there is no separation between you being conscious and the brain the interchangability of matter would bring up many questions.
AnduinX 3 years ago
So what I've gathered you're essentially saying from my example is yes, you would regain consciousness if your brain were replaced, because there would be an active brain despite it being composed of different matter. It would simply be an accelerated process of what happens to us every 7 years.
AnduinX 3 years ago
If your brain is replaced by an identical brain there would still be distance between the two brains, but that should not matter right? So it should not matter to the extreme. If your body were to be cloned and taken to the other side of the world and your brain is annihilated, but an exact duplicate is produced and inserted into the brainless body. Following the reasoning from my first example you would regain consciousness on the other side of the world.
AnduinX 3 years ago
In theory then, as long as an identical brain existed anywhere in the universe you would regain consciousness at that location.
AnduinX 3 years ago
What about time? If you freeze somebody and replace their brain with different matter, that still takes a duration of time. So, it should also be repeatable to the extreme. If you annihilate their brain, wait for a few million years, recreate their brain, and revive them, they should have no problem regaining consciousness at that time and place. It would be similar to a cryogenic patient being frozen and revived at a later date.
AnduinX 3 years ago
However our brain is not a static organ, it's constantly changing through life. The structure and data in our brain is entirely different from the structure and data that existed in our brains when we were children. So, if you were to freeze your brain and 'alter' it very slightly, would it still be you?
If not, then one could say we die every moment our brain changes. Boxers die whenever they take a shot to the head, clearly not the case... it would have to still be your 'self'.
AnduinX 3 years ago
So, certain structural changes to the brain can occur, and we will remain the conscious observer. Brain changes are quite normal. So how much change can occur before we no longer are the conscious observer? Before consciousness ceases? If you base that off of medical cases of brain trauma quite a bit. People have recovered from dramatic and violent changes and despite losing memory, abilities, ect, they did not lose their 'self.'
AnduinX 3 years ago
If you follow that line of logic to completion then as long as your brain exists at any time (forward), anywhere, with a structure resembling your brain with a certain amount of allowable change (to the limit!) you will regain consciousness when it is revived.
AnduinX 3 years ago
If time and location do not make a different, and structure is modifiable to an unknown degree, then would the brain even need to be similar to yours? A physical mechanism that contains or creates consciousness is entirely speculatory, therefore it is also unknown what kind of structures could potentially contain a 'self'.
AnduinX 3 years ago