Peace Now is a racist hate group that wants to ethnically cleanse all Jews from their homeland in the West Bank while ignoring all the Arabs in Israel proper.
@TheJoeynewcastle I don't care. Finkelstein is scum but he is one hell of an Israel basher. So those that hate Israel (i.e. Jews), then a thumbs up for this asshole makes perfect sense.
@Dave19141918 Well that's what you think, and many others think otherwise.
And you are completely wrong, completely, and stupid in saying that Israel and Jews are same thing. No wonder you like Martin Indyk. And if your stupid logic is correct, which it isn't at all, then why would Finkelstein, a Jew him self, hate on his fellow Jews? There is a difference between the 2
@TheJoeynewcastle HAHAHA...U are correct that being anti-Israel is not the same as being anti-Jewish. But they often go hand in hand. The 21st century form of Jew bashing is Israel bashing. As for Finkelstein, it is entirely possible to be a Jewish Anti-Semite and he is one indeed. You are the one that is completely wrong so fuck off, bitch.
@Dave19141918 how and where am i wrong mr keyboard warrior? If theres anyone thats wrong, its yourself, saying that its possible for a very religious jewish man to be an anti-semite. He's anti-israeli, but that doesnt make him an anti-semite
@TheJoeynewcastle Hey genius, maybe you can't read very well. I specifically stated that one can be anti-Israel without being an anti-semite. However, I don't believe that is the case with NF. I think he is an anti-semite and he manifests his hatred through his bashing of Israel. There are many others like him. The fact that he is Jewish does not mean he can't be an anti-semite. He is one. Also, NF is not a very religious Jewish man. Stop making shit up to prove your point, Mr. Keyboard Warrior!
@Dave19141918 Well im not the one using foul words, so calling me a keyboard warrior has no meaning. And im not making shit up, u are. He writes books and poems about jewish literature and the religion ffs. Bashing Israel doesnt make you an anti-semite, it makes u an anti-israeli.
@TheJoeynewcastle You calling me a keyboard warrior does mean something. It is laughable. Also, I am always up for proving that I am more than just a "keyboard" warrior. Bashing Israel does make you an anti-semite. Legitimate criticism in the proper context does not. Writing poems does not make NF religious. It merely makes him a poet (or a meager attempt at being one).
@Dave19141918 Bashing Israel does not make you an anti-semite, where is the logic in that? Its like saying that hating Rome makes you an against christianity. There aren't only jews in israel..
and about NF, hes a poet and writer that CHOSE to write about the jewish religion, why on earth would someone that as you say is not very religious, mainly write and focus most of his writing on religion?
and have u even read his work before saying "a meager attempt"? i havent, and I doubt u have
@TheJoeynewcastle LMAO, Joey. Actually, NF has written 7 books in all. They are all political books. None about Poetry or the Jewish Religion. Get your facts straight and stop making up nonsense. NF is virulantly anti-Israel. To the point where he is almost pyschotic about the subject. Underlying his hatred of Israel is his hatred of Jews. I don't doubt that for a second. You can believe whatever you want. I don't really care.
@Dave19141918 He fucking is a poet, stop telling me to get my facts right, ur the one that has to. Go find proof of him "underlying" his hatred of jews, u stop making nonsense. And i dont blame him for being anti-israel, i hate that "country".
Ofcourse i can beleive what i want, and i will. and whether u care or not means nothing to me
@TheJoeynewcastle LMAO!!!!! Hey Moron, the Norman Finkelstein who has published Poetry and is a literary critic is a professor at Xavier University. Not the same as the Israel bashing Norman Finkelstein who only writes about Israel and, lately, the Holocaust. The Norman Finkelstein you are talking about recently was denied tenure at DePaul University. You are hilarious, you fucking idiot. I am really enjoying laughing at you. Keep your stupidity coming, please!
@Dave19141918 hahaha, so what are u trying to say now? there are 2 NFs? lol yeah. go find proof of that, and while ur at it, who knows, maybe it will turn out that there are 6 NFs. that would work well with ur logic, keyboard warrior :)
@TheJoeynewcastle Hey retard, do this simple little trick. Google "Norman Finkelstein Poet" and see what comes up. Then google "Norman Finkelstein Israel" and see what comes up. Take a look at the profile and photos and then tell me if they are one and the same. LMAO. You are hilarious!
@Dave19141918 Hey smarty, good job at finding both. but have u ever looked at what "Norman Finkelstein Israel" did? Go search that, and see what comes up. Take a look at the profile and see all the books he wrote that have to deal with the jewish faith, and how he separates zionism and the jewish religion. Both NFs wrote stuff, smart one.
and if ur finding what im saying in this debate as "hilarious", then u must be really easy to entertain...sad
@TheJoeynewcastle Hey Keyboard Warrior, good job at failing to read the titles of any of the 7 books that he has published. None appear to have anything to do with the Jewish faith. For instance, "Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict" or "This Time We Went Too Far: Truth and Consequences of the Gaza Invasion" or "Beyond Chutzpah: On the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History". I am not so easily entertained but I am having a blast reading your brilliant responses though.
@TheJoeynewcastle ooooooohhhhhh.....you sure showed me, keyboard warrior. LMAO!!!!! That one really hurt, keyboard warrior! LOL. Keep it coming, moron. You are a riot.
and let me explain a little thing about the term "keyboard warrior" to u, mr smart, cuz u seem to have gone out of control with it. it means someone who uses foul language that has no purpose, like u do. "moron, fuck, fucking idiot.." and especially someone who prob wont use those face to face, because if u think about it, if we were talking about this face to face, it would look completely stupid on ur part
@TheJoeynewcastle Actually, if we did meet face to face and you made idiotic, anti-semitic remarks, I would use foul language on you. I am also trained and very confidant in my ability to defend myself, if necessary. If you kept it polite and civil, I probably would not. You really don't seem so bad to me (from what I can gather) but very misinformed. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you are not a jew hater. Therefore, if I offended you then I apologize.
@TheJoeynewcastle I don't agree. I think you are misinformed about the facts and I think you are completely mistaken about the reality of the situation. I think I am not misinformed at all. There is nothing relative here. One is right and the other is wrong.
@TheJoeynewcastle Of course. But that does not change the fact that one of us is correct and the other is wrong. Merely believing that one is correct does not make it so.
Mr. Sharon swears allegiance to the Middle East. “road map,” the plan promoted by the quartet of the United States, The European Union, the United nations and Russia for an eventual peace agreement between Israel and Palestine. But the vision he holds out to his people is not one of a negotiated peace, but rather of an Israel with a robust Jewish majority and an undivided Jerusalem in its hands."
@StyrbjornStarke And the prime minister is already actively turning that vision into reality by building a security barrier around Jerusalem and the major West Bank settlements blocs" From Martin Indyk.
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There was not any debate. Indyk refuse to debate NF on very simple ground He was not informed about debate and its reasonable ground. I'm not fan of NF but he is indeed formidable demagogy and one have to be prepared for debate with him.
Specially on "enemy territory"
Democracy today is left wing counterpart of fox and even more bias.
In fact "seize of fire" is not blank check and not peace. Any attempt to use seize fire as preparation for offensive is in fact deal breaker.
@Mrjaguarpaw1 I am a Palestinian and I think that you are a sick human being who is no worse than the Zionists who view the Palestinians in the same light! it has to be noted that Norman Finklestein A JEW has spoken in defense of the Palestinians better than the vast majority of Arab Muslim leaders. I do smell a rat and that rat is YOU!
It is amazing how Mr. Indyk had established at the start of his speach that he is not a spokesperson for the Israeli government but throughout the discussion he acted more like an Israeli agent than a US official.
thank you for the video. but it is not really a debate. norm speaks quite briefly and then indick recycles his usual nonsense. that is talking in turn, not really debate. but anyway that is a small point.
From the off Indyk is telling lies - Israel broke the ceasefire, not Hamas and this can be checked with several reliable sources. It's starting to come out more and more these days the lies told by these people. Keep up the excellent work Dr Finkelstein.
There is something I don't understand. Martin Indyk was offended upon learning that Norman Finkelstein was his fellow guest. Was Democracy Now ethically obligated to inform Indyk in advance? I am a Finkelstein fan, but I really want to know.
@gulshabbo It was probably already a stretch to get Mr. Indyk, who much prefers to be fellated by the mainstream media, to even appear on Democracy Now. Do you really think he would have shown up had he known that Mr. Finkelstein (who reduces all his opponents, including here Mr. Indyk, to stammering and drooling) would be there?
@fctchk According to a specialist in journalistic ethics, it would have been a courteous gesture to inform Indyk in advance that Finkelstein would also appear. Democracy Now tricked him, but violated no ethical rules.
@gulshabbo Your concern for journalistic propriety is clearly sincere and honourable. If you have some left over, perhaps, we could have it directed at the defacto ban on Mr. Finkelstein appearing anywhere in the US mainstream media other than being portrayed as a pariah borderline lunatic.
@fctchk You are directing your sarcasm at the wrong person. I am one of Finkelstein's biggest fans, and I think that he debated Indyk very effectively.
@samibh100 Everyone knows that Arabs are Muslims kill children and women. Recently, they have their throats cut infant and killed the entire family of Jews. You feel ashamed that you're an Arab?
@samibh100 I don't support Palestinian Terrorist groups like Hamas. They are true children killers and they aim for them too boot. Nobody with any morality could support these lowlife dirtbags.
don't pretend that you like Finklestein, you just hate israel. Nothing in this world would make you happier than for Finklestein to take his children and entire family and throw them in front of an israeli tank, just for the propaganda photos of smashed children. You don't give a damn about anyone, you're so selfish like most muslims all you care about is getting your own way. fuck mohammad
you don't love anyone. you just hate israel. nothing would make you happier than for Finklestein, and his entire family to be run over by an israeli tank. you would dance in the street with joy if that happened because you think it would help to hurt israelis. you muslims never think about anyone but yourselves. selfish bastards
to the lebanese who understands like them: who the hell cares what u understand, who the hell r u to talk on the lebanese behalf... the lebanese like u r the silliest people of all mankind...shame on u... hizbollah nasrallah like lebanese forces of bachir jemayel were both fighting for their existence...it is a shame that U r the byproduct....a true lebanese ...zjk
Israel wants peace? have you seen the expansion of the settlements since 1948? peace yes, peace for Israeli Zionists means Palestinians are sanctioned to 2nd class citizens, all internal political affairs are supervised by Israel, and all settlements continue to expand. In the real world this isn't peace.. it's called OCCUPATION.
You know the only think you care about is that he doesn't care for the fate of the Jewish people, and you just added "Palestinian" to flower up your speech. Of course you can't call him Anti-Simitic.. what Jews in Israel are Semitic? close to none.
@unabomberman Yeah, Amy Goodman (and Alan Nairn) were beaten quite brutally in the early 1990s while reporting in East Timor. That may very well explain that.
@oldjoe5 ... You got that right, Martin Indyk just about shits when he realizes that his total bullshit will be challenged. Finklestein is awesome, but Amy really didn't need to have him there ... she could have ripped Indyk a new asshole on her own. It's very easy to see when Indyk is lying .... it's when his lips are moving.
Indyk show the reaction of Hamass as the main issue! while the reaction is a normal fact of been affected by terror of a country not organization I mean Israel!
@tibherius Im just talking about his physical appearance. The fact that he sold his people (and his parents) so that he could fly around the world to speak at campuses and events is besides the point. No matter what your stance on the Israel - Palestine conflict is, I would be embarrassed to have this man represent my views.
@tomer21today ok i give you that one he is ugly and but he sold his people? he is pointing whats whats wrong with the state of isreal and lets not talk about the parents and think why no one wants to devate him? i tell you why because they cant stand the facts he brings i havent caught him in a lie
@tibherius debate is not about lying or telling the truth. Most debaters would never be caught dead in a lie. Debate is about taking facts and forming them into a stance, or an opinion. If Israel removes all their checkpoints and the blockade, the Hammas will use its new found freedom to attack Israeli citizens. That has always been what the Hammas has said and it is clearly stated in their charter. The day hammas will want peace, this conflict will end. Poor Finkelstein will be out of work.
@tibherius On contrary to what tomer is saying, watch " The Crocodile Tears of Norman Finkelstein ". It's to honour his parents and the suffering of the jew community that Finkelstein is flying around the world to speak. I don't think you could deny that without being a zionist liar...
@TheCesny How is demonizing and denouncing the jewish state "honouring" the jewish suffering?Anyone who lays the blame for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict solely on ONE side is doing a disservice. You can't spend your life blaming Israel without touching upon the Hamas and the mistakes that were made on the palastinian side. In general Israel wants peace and the hammas doesnt. The Palestinian people are caught in the middle. Zionism is not a bad word. Well, maybe for a Finkelstein fan it is
@TheCesny I can. There are gay homophobes, there are african american racists and there are jewish anti-semites. But im not calling him an anti-semite. I don't believe he hates jews. I think he just cares more about his own bank account and ill deserved "prestige", then he does about the fate and well being of the jewish people. Or the Palestinian people for that matter.
@tomer21today On contrary, watch " The Crocodile Tears of Norman Finkelstein ". It's to honour his parents and the suffering of the jew community that Finkelstein is flying around the world to speak. I don't think you could deny that without being a zionist liar...
@catch22112 See, the thing is, you're not constructing a valid, referenced argument. All you're doing is calling him a "rat", It's like a 5 year old calling you a "ha ha, you're a silly billy", it doesn't mean anything and it's all just subjective insults, rather than objective analysis.
@catch22112 indeed i see him only speaking the truth but challeng me with facts tell me when he is liying and how? or do u think bush said the truth too about iraq?
nO he does not say the truth! all he's views comes out of his biased POV, and his self hatred mental syndrom. One can't ignore the given fact that:
The destruction of IL is a central key narrative of the palestinians political policy. I, a citizen of IL who lives in the mid east have a big interest to achieve peace with the palestinians and the countries that surrounds us.
Martin Indyk will be taking part in Intelligence Squared’s live debate entitled “The Middle East peace process is a charade” in London, Sept 2010. Martin Indyk believes that this is not the case, hear him argue against the motion and ask him questions in person. Go to our website Intelligence Squared for info and tickets. For those not in the country you can stream the event online
He said he didn't know he would be in a discussion with a counter-point. I guess he didn't realize he was going on a news network that has more than one point-of-view. "Damn. You mean I'm not just here to deliver talking points?"
@shayshalom Well of course long live the USA - without them there would be NO Israel! Hmmmm I guess I can count on seeing your name spouting the greatness of you illegitimate country everywhere? Tis ok - Canadians like a good debate! I'm waiting to see your responses :0)
Looks like anti rocket interception can be possible and more accurate by spraying steel small bearing balls or sands in front of the rockets path with computerized missile interception assistant. The rockets may be easily missed but the rockets won't miss those steel balls and sands.
How about carpet bombing interception? Can computer assisted spraying interception at high mid air work? I think so.
Finkelstein, is a good, smart respected educated, and he been banned from entering Israel!!!! Just because he speak his opinion????? Where is the Democracy of Israel????? OR JUST Because HE SPEAK THE TRUTH? God Bless you Finkelstein and keep the good job for the sake of humanity.
That's right !!!! Fink, The champion of the people. I would take a .45 to the face for this man. At least I would die for a great cause. People of the world, stand against the Rothschild/Rockefeller cabal. Know your enemy, envision the victory, communicate with your teamates and be prepared. Educate all around you. We must do this or our children and childrens children will be slaves to their whims. Cut down their minions. While we have the numbers, We ARE being slow killed! Viva la Fink!
@kevinherbert: cal them the IAF, bombing civilians, high seas piracy and complete diregard for international law and basic human decency is not defence. They are Israeli Armed Forces not Defennce Forces. Semantics are important
@blue2201 ... Or even the secretary of state. Dont we need one with absolute integrity and adherence to truth. If there were 20 Finkelsteins in this world Palestine would be completely restored to the Palestenians in 90 days. . . .
That Israel continues to kill civilians, read women and CHILDREN, destry houses and fruit trees for decades and refuses to accept peace offerings from Hamas is obvious to anyone with an atom's worth of intellectual honesty. Palestinians are not stupid. Faced with the Israeli military might, supported by the only super power in the world, it is obvious they want peace. Unfortunately for them, Israeli elite are not interested in sharing the pie. They want it all; land, resources, power, MONEY.
@ManACanadian - what a collection of unsubstaintiated allegations & lies you have written. Go & learn your facts & stop using anti-Zionism as the politically correct version of anti-Semitism.
Well done Embassador Indyk, you are a true, well educated Jew! Finkelstien, is a schmok, who capitalises on alleged Jewishness only when he attacks Israel /Jews & respects terrorists. No Jew would have acted in such a dishonest & irrational way as Finkelstein does. Please expell him out of the USA & send him to Gaza, Syria or Iran, where he will feel at home. Indyk has the of education & experience in this field, that truth distorters like Finkelstien can only dream about.
@blessings18 I always wondered how Nazis justified killing innocent people. Thank you for providing the explanation by your distorted and sick understanding of the situation, justifying the killing of innocent Palestinians. Finkelstein is courageous.
@ManACanadian you sound like an ill-informed, truth distorting anti-Semite. My understanding of the situation is based on facts & direct experiences. When the IDF was forced to act in its latest operation in Gaza, it was after civillians in Israel suffered from over 8,000 rockets launched at them by hamas & Co., in te 4 years AFTER Israel withdrew from Gaza. I suppose you believe the Israelis/Jews should have continued suffering raher than defending themselves?
@ManACanadian 2) Just for the record, there has never been a state called Palestine & the Fakestinians are offsprings of Arabs Colonists who moved into the land from other Arabs areas. Israel was re-established as a Modern state in 48 after a UN vote & on the British Mandate which formed most Modern Arab states with the French & Italians. Prior to 67, Gaza belonged to Egypt & the West Bank to Jordan. Learn your facts & return for an insult free debate.
@blessings18 Spoken like a true Zionist! Fortunately those who have an ounce of knowledge realize at no time was there ever a Jew nation, nor was there ever a "Jew" race. Not a single Jew stood before Mount Sinai when God delivered the Law to Israel, and God never made any covenant with the Jews. Those who call themselves Jews today falsely imply they are somehow descendants of the tribes of Israel and chosen of God. ZIONIST should return to their rightful home - Russia!
Indyk "I didnt think i was going to be in some kind of debate" hahahaha what are you worried for, if you speak the truth what problem do you have or is it that because Finkelstein is there you cant spout the usually yank and israeli lies ah boo fucking hoo.
i try not to hate real life trolls but this martin guy is really making me boil.. throughout this so called "debate" he speaks as if his book is above question and as though everyone HAS to read it to be on par with his (biased) knowledge... seriously he treats this thing almost like an add "read my book! read my book! i hope the viewers will read my book"! why would we sponsor someone (buy someone's book) who refuses debate and distorts facts so horribly that cant defend them in an open debate.
c how Martin indyk resorts to self censure by avoiding to say Hamas win a democratically contested elections- he stops and changes his words by saying how they took power by force in a competition. He looks like a recalcitrant bastard
In conclusion, the Court considers that Israel cannot rely on a right of self-defence or on a state of necessity in order to preclude the wrongfulness of the construction of the wall. The Court accordingly finds that the construction of the wall and its associated régime are contrary to international law.
Norman Finkelstein is a neo-Nazi traitor. Every sentence out of his mouth is a lie.
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Peace Now is a racist hate group that wants to ethnically cleanse all Jews from their homeland in the West Bank while ignoring all the Arabs in Israel proper.
JarlaxleArtemis 17 hours ago
I love How Finkelstein cracked Indyk without breaking a sweat. LOL
murssheed 1 week ago
Typical Israeli aggression.
Keep speaking the truth Norm!! Educate the brainwashed US idiots!!!
porty500 1 week ago
@MrLamalo1 fuck off jew supporting uneducated cross between 3 donkeys and 5 turtels
saadi1996 1 week ago
I pray the Arabs cleanse these evil jew motherfuckers
Seigu007 4 weeks ago
Zionist demons!
rodnjac1 2 months ago
Finklestein is one interesting individual
howdofolks 4 months ago
Israeli airforce cowards....pathetic cowards firing into civilian areas...war criminals all....
kevinherbert 5 months ago 3
The fear in his eyes when he found out Finklestein would be a guest. Wow.
7jerryv7 7 months ago 2
mfmvf
jezza1789 7 months ago
Indyk is one lying S.O.B. I can't make sense of what he's saying.
typical zionist.
ZeroBoostBuick 7 months ago 10
GO NORM!!!
37rod37 7 months ago 2
martin indyk is a zionist piece of shit. thumbs up for finkelstein
StyrbjornStarke 8 months ago 21
@StyrbjornStarke finkelstein is a Jew hating Israel bashing piece of shit. Thumbs up for Martin Indyk!
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 bla bla
Maanchild 7 months ago
@Maanchild bla bla bla to you too....manmolestingchild. LOL!
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 where are the thumbs up?
look at the thumbs up for Norman Finkelstein
TheJoeynewcastle 7 months ago
@TheJoeynewcastle I don't care. Finkelstein is scum but he is one hell of an Israel basher. So those that hate Israel (i.e. Jews), then a thumbs up for this asshole makes perfect sense.
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 Well that's what you think, and many others think otherwise.
And you are completely wrong, completely, and stupid in saying that Israel and Jews are same thing. No wonder you like Martin Indyk. And if your stupid logic is correct, which it isn't at all, then why would Finkelstein, a Jew him self, hate on his fellow Jews? There is a difference between the 2
TheJoeynewcastle 7 months ago
@TheJoeynewcastle HAHAHA...U are correct that being anti-Israel is not the same as being anti-Jewish. But they often go hand in hand. The 21st century form of Jew bashing is Israel bashing. As for Finkelstein, it is entirely possible to be a Jewish Anti-Semite and he is one indeed. You are the one that is completely wrong so fuck off, bitch.
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 how and where am i wrong mr keyboard warrior? If theres anyone thats wrong, its yourself, saying that its possible for a very religious jewish man to be an anti-semite. He's anti-israeli, but that doesnt make him an anti-semite
TheJoeynewcastle 7 months ago
@TheJoeynewcastle Hey genius, maybe you can't read very well. I specifically stated that one can be anti-Israel without being an anti-semite. However, I don't believe that is the case with NF. I think he is an anti-semite and he manifests his hatred through his bashing of Israel. There are many others like him. The fact that he is Jewish does not mean he can't be an anti-semite. He is one. Also, NF is not a very religious Jewish man. Stop making shit up to prove your point, Mr. Keyboard Warrior!
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 Well im not the one using foul words, so calling me a keyboard warrior has no meaning. And im not making shit up, u are. He writes books and poems about jewish literature and the religion ffs. Bashing Israel doesnt make you an anti-semite, it makes u an anti-israeli.
TheJoeynewcastle 7 months ago
@TheJoeynewcastle You calling me a keyboard warrior does mean something. It is laughable. Also, I am always up for proving that I am more than just a "keyboard" warrior. Bashing Israel does make you an anti-semite. Legitimate criticism in the proper context does not. Writing poems does not make NF religious. It merely makes him a poet (or a meager attempt at being one).
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 Bashing Israel does not make you an anti-semite, where is the logic in that? Its like saying that hating Rome makes you an against christianity. There aren't only jews in israel..
and about NF, hes a poet and writer that CHOSE to write about the jewish religion, why on earth would someone that as you say is not very religious, mainly write and focus most of his writing on religion?
and have u even read his work before saying "a meager attempt"? i havent, and I doubt u have
TheJoeynewcastle 7 months ago
@TheJoeynewcastle LMAO, Joey. Actually, NF has written 7 books in all. They are all political books. None about Poetry or the Jewish Religion. Get your facts straight and stop making up nonsense. NF is virulantly anti-Israel. To the point where he is almost pyschotic about the subject. Underlying his hatred of Israel is his hatred of Jews. I don't doubt that for a second. You can believe whatever you want. I don't really care.
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 He fucking is a poet, stop telling me to get my facts right, ur the one that has to. Go find proof of him "underlying" his hatred of jews, u stop making nonsense. And i dont blame him for being anti-israel, i hate that "country".
Ofcourse i can beleive what i want, and i will. and whether u care or not means nothing to me
TheJoeynewcastle 7 months ago
@TheJoeynewcastle LMAO!!!!! Hey Moron, the Norman Finkelstein who has published Poetry and is a literary critic is a professor at Xavier University. Not the same as the Israel bashing Norman Finkelstein who only writes about Israel and, lately, the Holocaust. The Norman Finkelstein you are talking about recently was denied tenure at DePaul University. You are hilarious, you fucking idiot. I am really enjoying laughing at you. Keep your stupidity coming, please!
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 hahaha, so what are u trying to say now? there are 2 NFs? lol yeah. go find proof of that, and while ur at it, who knows, maybe it will turn out that there are 6 NFs. that would work well with ur logic, keyboard warrior :)
TheJoeynewcastle 7 months ago
@TheJoeynewcastle Hey retard, do this simple little trick. Google "Norman Finkelstein Poet" and see what comes up. Then google "Norman Finkelstein Israel" and see what comes up. Take a look at the profile and photos and then tell me if they are one and the same. LMAO. You are hilarious!
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 Hey smarty, good job at finding both. but have u ever looked at what "Norman Finkelstein Israel" did? Go search that, and see what comes up. Take a look at the profile and see all the books he wrote that have to deal with the jewish faith, and how he separates zionism and the jewish religion. Both NFs wrote stuff, smart one.
and if ur finding what im saying in this debate as "hilarious", then u must be really easy to entertain...sad
TheJoeynewcastle 7 months ago
@TheJoeynewcastle Hey Keyboard Warrior, good job at failing to read the titles of any of the 7 books that he has published. None appear to have anything to do with the Jewish faith. For instance, "Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict" or "This Time We Went Too Far: Truth and Consequences of the Gaza Invasion" or "Beyond Chutzpah: On the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History". I am not so easily entertained but I am having a blast reading your brilliant responses though.
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 hey how about u read their descriptions, then come back with an acceptable response
TheJoeynewcastle 7 months ago
@TheJoeynewcastle I already did, keyboard warrior. You might try doing the same.
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 i already did, keyboard warrior.
TheJoeynewcastle 7 months ago
@TheJoeynewcastle Then your brain must be limited in its capacity to absorb information, keyboard warrior.
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 coming from you, that doesnt mean anything at all
TheJoeynewcastle 7 months ago
@TheJoeynewcastle ooooooohhhhhh.....you sure showed me, keyboard warrior. LMAO!!!!! That one really hurt, keyboard warrior! LOL. Keep it coming, moron. You are a riot.
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 ?..as if anything u said showed me.
and let me explain a little thing about the term "keyboard warrior" to u, mr smart, cuz u seem to have gone out of control with it. it means someone who uses foul language that has no purpose, like u do. "moron, fuck, fucking idiot.." and especially someone who prob wont use those face to face, because if u think about it, if we were talking about this face to face, it would look completely stupid on ur part
TheJoeynewcastle 7 months ago
@TheJoeynewcastle Actually, if we did meet face to face and you made idiotic, anti-semitic remarks, I would use foul language on you. I am also trained and very confidant in my ability to defend myself, if necessary. If you kept it polite and civil, I probably would not. You really don't seem so bad to me (from what I can gather) but very misinformed. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you are not a jew hater. Therefore, if I offended you then I apologize.
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 Well I've never said anything anti semetic remarks.
And the reality is that we're both never going to agree on anything. I'm misinformed to u but at the same time u are misinformed ro me.
TheJoeynewcastle 7 months ago
@TheJoeynewcastle I don't agree. I think you are misinformed about the facts and I think you are completely mistaken about the reality of the situation. I think I am not misinformed at all. There is nothing relative here. One is right and the other is wrong.
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 i could tell u the same exact thing you just told me
TheJoeynewcastle 7 months ago
@TheJoeynewcastle Of course. But that does not change the fact that one of us is correct and the other is wrong. Merely believing that one is correct does not make it so.
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 of course it doesnt, but none of us is going to accept that the other is right
TheJoeynewcastle 7 months ago
@TheJoeynewcastle I am open enough to reconsider. Sorry to see that you are not. Anyway, who cares.
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@Dave19141918 i wouldnt mind, but ur right who cares. im some random guy on youtube, u shdnt care haha
TheJoeynewcastle 7 months ago
@TheJoeynewcastle You are right and I don't.
Dave19141918 7 months ago
@StyrbjornStarke Quote from an article "Go Your Own Way"
Mr. Sharon swears allegiance to the Middle East. “road map,” the plan promoted by the quartet of the United States, The European Union, the United nations and Russia for an eventual peace agreement between Israel and Palestine. But the vision he holds out to his people is not one of a negotiated peace, but rather of an Israel with a robust Jewish majority and an undivided Jerusalem in its hands."
Sagefrakrobatik 1 month ago
@StyrbjornStarke And the prime minister is already actively turning that vision into reality by building a security barrier around Jerusalem and the major West Bank settlements blocs" From Martin Indyk.
Doesnt sound as evil now does he
Sagefrakrobatik 1 month ago
Let's talk about the crimes of Islamo-fascists and leftists against the Jewish State of Israel
goringorin77 10 months ago
@goringorin77 Turn to FOX news.
finestShorty 9 months ago
@goringorin77 go ahead.
beelzebunge 8 months ago
@goringorin77 zionist tactic no.1324 change the subject.
Sockevollpopcorn1 8 months ago
@goringorin77 Y Finkelstein is entitled to their opinion. But decent people have a right not to listen to his nonsense.
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UniversalTruthTruth 10 months ago
NF is an idiot.
shirehorse9 11 months ago
@shirehorse9
how is he an idiot?
malakoz 11 months ago
@shirehorse9 his left testicle is bigger than your brain.
dsmrider 10 months ago
@dsmrider Your comment sounds like something a 13 year old would say. Why don't you go back to your video games and let the adults talk.
shirehorse9 10 months ago
@shirehorse9 I suppose " NF is an idiot " is adult like. Hypocritical at the very least wouldn't you say?
dsmrider 10 months ago
@shirehorse9
a717575 10 months ago
There was not any debate. Indyk refuse to debate NF on very simple ground He was not informed about debate and its reasonable ground. I'm not fan of NF but he is indeed formidable demagogy and one have to be prepared for debate with him.
Specially on "enemy territory"
Democracy today is left wing counterpart of fox and even more bias.
In fact "seize of fire" is not blank check and not peace. Any attempt to use seize fire as preparation for offensive is in fact deal breaker.
Greywind30 11 months ago
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Mrjaguarpaw1 1 year ago
@Mrjaguarpaw1 I am a Palestinian and I think that you are a sick human being who is no worse than the Zionists who view the Palestinians in the same light! it has to be noted that Norman Finklestein A JEW has spoken in defense of the Palestinians better than the vast majority of Arab Muslim leaders. I do smell a rat and that rat is YOU!
Dvsblue 1 year ago
@Dvsblue you must be a jew
Mrjaguarpaw1 1 year ago
@Mrjaguarpaw1 you really are a waste of oxygen.
Dvsblue 1 year ago
all martin is is a 1st class pussy without facts, arguments, evidence. you know all those things you need to win a debate. what a douche.
when your guy wins its an election. when your guy loses its a takeover, coup, etc. what an asshole
abortfailure7646 1 year ago
all martin is is a 1st class pussy without facts, arguments, evidence. you know all those things you need to win a debate. what a douche
abortfailure7646 1 year ago
Haha...Indyk shit his pants!
MattersofSize1 1 year ago
i think this arab/jew argument that is never ending is all about who has the biggest cock
2200BK 1 year ago
finkelstein murdered this nazionist. funny how pro-israelis always lie.
antekification 1 year ago
It is amazing how Mr. Indyk had established at the start of his speach that he is not a spokesperson for the Israeli government but throughout the discussion he acted more like an Israeli agent than a US official.
razkedo 1 year ago
@razkedo here it would be called conflict of intrests...
Darusdei 1 year ago
thank you for the video. but it is not really a debate. norm speaks quite briefly and then indick recycles his usual nonsense. that is talking in turn, not really debate. but anyway that is a small point.
lilcicero77 1 year ago
From the off Indyk is telling lies - Israel broke the ceasefire, not Hamas and this can be checked with several reliable sources. It's starting to come out more and more these days the lies told by these people. Keep up the excellent work Dr Finkelstein.
rudyell 1 year ago
There is something I don't understand. Martin Indyk was offended upon learning that Norman Finkelstein was his fellow guest. Was Democracy Now ethically obligated to inform Indyk in advance? I am a Finkelstein fan, but I really want to know.
gulshabbo 1 year ago
@gulshabbo It was probably already a stretch to get Mr. Indyk, who much prefers to be fellated by the mainstream media, to even appear on Democracy Now. Do you really think he would have shown up had he known that Mr. Finkelstein (who reduces all his opponents, including here Mr. Indyk, to stammering and drooling) would be there?
fctchk 1 year ago
@fctchk According to a specialist in journalistic ethics, it would have been a courteous gesture to inform Indyk in advance that Finkelstein would also appear. Democracy Now tricked him, but violated no ethical rules.
gulshabbo 1 year ago
@gulshabbo Your concern for journalistic propriety is clearly sincere and honourable. If you have some left over, perhaps, we could have it directed at the defacto ban on Mr. Finkelstein appearing anywhere in the US mainstream media other than being portrayed as a pariah borderline lunatic.
fctchk 1 year ago
@fctchk You are directing your sarcasm at the wrong person. I am one of Finkelstein's biggest fans, and I think that he debated Indyk very effectively.
gulshabbo 1 year ago
God bless you Norman Finkelstein
samibh100 1 year ago 53
When you hear the words 'the record is fairly clear' come out finkelsteins mouth....expect his opponents too look like fools a few minutes later.
SinergyWave 1 year ago
@samibh100 God bless Zionist Jewesh State of Israel! Finkelshtain and Co. go home. to hell
goringorin77 8 months ago
@goringorin77 why do you support children killers?!
samibh100 8 months ago
@samibh100 Everyone knows that Arabs are Muslims kill children and women. Recently, they have their throats cut infant and killed the entire family of Jews. You feel ashamed that you're an Arab?
goringorin77 8 months ago
@samibh100 I don't support Palestinian Terrorist groups like Hamas. They are true children killers and they aim for them too boot. Nobody with any morality could support these lowlife dirtbags.
Dave19141918 7 months ago
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@samibh100 Dr. DUMB Finkelstein support in TERROR TO KILL HIS BROTHER THE JEWS.
HE WENT TO SUPPORT HEZBOLLAH ,IF HE'S JEWS SO HE MADE NEW NAZISM.
WHERE is Palestine in all HOLY books NONE of word.??????
PALESTINIANS NEED TO GO TO THERE HOMES>>>>>>> JORDAN,GAZA.
Palestinians occupied the land ,THAT BELONG TO 12 TRIBES OF Israel.
ISEL333 7 months ago
@samibh100
don't pretend that you like Finklestein, you just hate israel. Nothing in this world would make you happier than for Finklestein to take his children and entire family and throw them in front of an israeli tank, just for the propaganda photos of smashed children. You don't give a damn about anyone, you're so selfish like most muslims all you care about is getting your own way. fuck mohammad
rddaos 6 months ago
@rddaos and you got that form what?!
do you know me?!
and what do you know about Islam?!
why did you called me and most Muslims "selfish"?!
do you know what Muslims done when they Ruled Europe?!
go read some history books pls!
and no I don't wish him or anyone harm except if they harm me or my loved ones :)
samibh100 6 months ago
@samibh100
you don't love anyone. you just hate israel. nothing would make you happier than for Finklestein, and his entire family to be run over by an israeli tank. you would dance in the street with joy if that happened because you think it would help to hurt israelis. you muslims never think about anyone but yourselves. selfish bastards
rddaos 6 months ago
@rddaos Cool story bro. Add more dragons and shit.
SolGios 5 months ago 2
to the lebanese who understands like them: who the hell cares what u understand, who the hell r u to talk on the lebanese behalf... the lebanese like u r the silliest people of all mankind...shame on u... hizbollah nasrallah like lebanese forces of bachir jemayel were both fighting for their existence...it is a shame that U r the byproduct....a true lebanese ...zjk
zjkhaldieh 1 year ago
indyk looks alot like that other dick we had as vise president for eight years .
utupeitupe 1 year ago
Finkelstein you are the best!
Shalilify 1 year ago
Dude looks like Dick Cheney's brother, acts like I would imagine him to also.
tstruss912 1 year ago
Israel wants peace? have you seen the expansion of the settlements since 1948? peace yes, peace for Israeli Zionists means Palestinians are sanctioned to 2nd class citizens, all internal political affairs are supervised by Israel, and all settlements continue to expand. In the real world this isn't peace.. it's called OCCUPATION.
algeriealgerienne 1 year ago
@tomer21today
You know the only think you care about is that he doesn't care for the fate of the Jewish people, and you just added "Palestinian" to flower up your speech. Of course you can't call him Anti-Simitic.. what Jews in Israel are Semitic? close to none.
algeriealgerienne 1 year ago
Finkelpimp rocks hard.
Lady's got one funky eye.
unabomberman 1 year ago 9
@unabomberman Yeah, Amy Goodman (and Alan Nairn) were beaten quite brutally in the early 1990s while reporting in East Timor. That may very well explain that.
meeter 10 months ago
@meeter
Man, that's awful. Thanks for the info, though.
unabomberman 10 months ago
@meeter I WISH i could have seen that! I would love to have seen her get her cunt ass beaten. Hopefully it'll happen again.
solpapisolmook 8 months ago
@oldjoe5 ... You got that right, Martin Indyk just about shits when he realizes that his total bullshit will be challenged. Finklestein is awesome, but Amy really didn't need to have him there ... she could have ripped Indyk a new asshole on her own. It's very easy to see when Indyk is lying .... it's when his lips are moving.
noaid2israel 1 year ago
Indyk show the reaction of Hamass as the main issue! while the reaction is a normal fact of been affected by terror of a country not organization I mean Israel!
dethroned81 1 year ago
Yeah, it is a resistance
debunkingdebunkers 1 year ago
i love all the Finkelstein fanboys that try their hardest to ignore the fact that he looks like a complete retard whenever he opens his mouth.
tomer21today 1 year ago
@tomer21today retard why and how?
tibherius 1 year ago
@tibherius Im just talking about his physical appearance. The fact that he sold his people (and his parents) so that he could fly around the world to speak at campuses and events is besides the point. No matter what your stance on the Israel - Palestine conflict is, I would be embarrassed to have this man represent my views.
tomer21today 1 year ago
@tomer21today ok i give you that one he is ugly and but he sold his people? he is pointing whats whats wrong with the state of isreal and lets not talk about the parents and think why no one wants to devate him? i tell you why because they cant stand the facts he brings i havent caught him in a lie
tibherius 1 year ago
@tibherius debate is not about lying or telling the truth. Most debaters would never be caught dead in a lie. Debate is about taking facts and forming them into a stance, or an opinion. If Israel removes all their checkpoints and the blockade, the Hammas will use its new found freedom to attack Israeli citizens. That has always been what the Hammas has said and it is clearly stated in their charter. The day hammas will want peace, this conflict will end. Poor Finkelstein will be out of work.
tomer21today 1 year ago
@tibherius On contrary to what tomer is saying, watch " The Crocodile Tears of Norman Finkelstein ". It's to honour his parents and the suffering of the jew community that Finkelstein is flying around the world to speak. I don't think you could deny that without being a zionist liar...
TheCesny 1 year ago
@TheCesny How is demonizing and denouncing the jewish state "honouring" the jewish suffering?Anyone who lays the blame for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict solely on ONE side is doing a disservice. You can't spend your life blaming Israel without touching upon the Hamas and the mistakes that were made on the palastinian side. In general Israel wants peace and the hammas doesnt. The Palestinian people are caught in the middle. Zionism is not a bad word. Well, maybe for a Finkelstein fan it is
tomer21today 1 year ago
@tomer21today It's too bad Finkelstein is a Jew, you can not call him an antisemite.
TheCesny 1 year ago
@TheCesny I can. There are gay homophobes, there are african american racists and there are jewish anti-semites. But im not calling him an anti-semite. I don't believe he hates jews. I think he just cares more about his own bank account and ill deserved "prestige", then he does about the fate and well being of the jewish people. Or the Palestinian people for that matter.
tomer21today 1 year ago
@tomer21today and what makes you say that?
TheCesny 1 year ago
@tomer21today On contrary, watch " The Crocodile Tears of Norman Finkelstein ". It's to honour his parents and the suffering of the jew community that Finkelstein is flying around the world to speak. I don't think you could deny that without being a zionist liar...
TheCesny 1 year ago
FInkelstein - what a disgusting RAT!
catch22112 1 year ago
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@catch22112 See, the thing is, you're not constructing a valid, referenced argument. All you're doing is calling him a "rat", It's like a 5 year old calling you a "ha ha, you're a silly billy", it doesn't mean anything and it's all just subjective insults, rather than objective analysis.
hakim0744 1 year ago
@catch22112 rat so telling the truth it is call rat now?
tibherius 1 year ago
@tibherius -
As you already know to well now, "Truth is in the eye of the beholder"
catch22112 1 year ago
@catch22112 indeed i see him only speaking the truth but challeng me with facts tell me when he is liying and how? or do u think bush said the truth too about iraq?
tibherius 1 year ago
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@tibherius -
nO he does not say the truth! all he's views comes out of his biased POV, and his self hatred mental syndrom. One can't ignore the given fact that:
The destruction of IL is a central key narrative of the palestinians political policy. I, a citizen of IL who lives in the mid east have a big interest to achieve peace with the palestinians and the countries that surrounds us.
catch22112 1 year ago
Martin Indyk will be taking part in Intelligence Squared’s live debate entitled “The Middle East peace process is a charade” in London, Sept 2010. Martin Indyk believes that this is not the case, hear him argue against the motion and ask him questions in person. Go to our website Intelligence Squared for info and tickets. For those not in the country you can stream the event online
iqsquared 1 year ago
Go FInkelstein go.. you are the man
AhmedsCorner 1 year ago 2
He said he didn't know he would be in a discussion with a counter-point. I guess he didn't realize he was going on a news network that has more than one point-of-view. "Damn. You mean I'm not just here to deliver talking points?"
IntractableJ 1 year ago
finkelstein is the man
egyptianandproudful 1 year ago 2
Martin Indyk is full of shit..lies lies and more lies..i never herd so much lies
anthonybarrett79 1 year ago 2
@urielrabo yet another Islamophobic message! Israel may be a reality but it will never be legitimate! Face facts!
Morningmist69 1 year ago
I Love Israel - Long Live Israel n the USA
shayshalom 1 year ago
@shayshalom Well of course long live the USA - without them there would be NO Israel! Hmmmm I guess I can count on seeing your name spouting the greatness of you illegitimate country everywhere? Tis ok - Canadians like a good debate! I'm waiting to see your responses :0)
Palestine - the true Judean country!
Morningmist69 1 year ago
@Morningmist69 Without the USA, there's also be no inferiority complex on your part either :)
solpapisolmook 1 year ago
pwnage!
jmzimmerman1984 1 year ago
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Who rules Gaza?
A group of terrorists called HAMAS !
Hamas killed more than 600 members of PLO (Palestinians) - But who's counting? right ?
Please watch this:
youtube.com/watch?v=yi2AvbXXjrk&feature=fvsr
aweinsto 1 year ago
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Who rules Gaza?
A group of terrorists called HAMAS !
Hamas killed more than 600 members of PLO (Palestinians) - But who's counting? right ?
Please watch this:
youtube.com/watch?v=yi2AvbXXjrk&feature=fvsr
aweinsto 1 year ago
Looks like anti rocket interception can be possible and more accurate by spraying steel small bearing balls or sands in front of the rockets path with computerized missile interception assistant. The rockets may be easily missed but the rockets won't miss those steel balls and sands.
How about carpet bombing interception? Can computer assisted spraying interception at high mid air work? I think so.
beancube2010 1 year ago
@urielrabo fuk off bak to israel we dont want u yids in europe warmongering cowards
laline72 1 year ago
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Finkelstein, is a good, smart respected educated, and he been banned from entering Israel!!!! Just because he speak his opinion????? Where is the Democracy of Israel????? OR JUST Because HE SPEAK THE TRUTH? God Bless you Finkelstein and keep the good job for the sake of humanity.
ssharef 1 year ago
str8 off the bat, indick shits his pants with his knowledge of finkelstein's presence. Let the destruction begin!
halflifeproductionz 1 year ago
That's right !!!! Fink, The champion of the people. I would take a .45 to the face for this man. At least I would die for a great cause. People of the world, stand against the Rothschild/Rockefeller cabal. Know your enemy, envision the victory, communicate with your teamates and be prepared. Educate all around you. We must do this or our children and childrens children will be slaves to their whims. Cut down their minions. While we have the numbers, We ARE being slow killed! Viva la Fink!
sssssjjjj1 1 year ago 2
@kevinherbert: cal them the IAF, bombing civilians, high seas piracy and complete diregard for international law and basic human decency is not defence. They are Israeli Armed Forces not Defennce Forces. Semantics are important
barbadamas08 1 year ago
The IDF are war criminals..their leaders should face long gaol terms.
kevinherbert 1 year ago
Finkelstein is the greatest American alive , a Lion of God . May his life be protected and his work be blessed.
rehanajana 1 year ago
Norman Finklestein should be made USA Ambassador to Israel. Wouldn't that be something. Go on Barack...do it!
blue2201 1 year ago
@blue2201 ... Or even the secretary of state. Dont we need one with absolute integrity and adherence to truth. If there were 20 Finkelsteins in this world Palestine would be completely restored to the Palestenians in 90 days. . . .
rehanajana 1 year ago
Indyk is a typical yellow blooded zionist turd, when it's one on one they shit their pants, they are a pathetic bunch.
blowersho 1 year ago
That was an awful few weeks.
trollfinger 1 year ago
That Israel continues to kill civilians, read women and CHILDREN, destry houses and fruit trees for decades and refuses to accept peace offerings from Hamas is obvious to anyone with an atom's worth of intellectual honesty. Palestinians are not stupid. Faced with the Israeli military might, supported by the only super power in the world, it is obvious they want peace. Unfortunately for them, Israeli elite are not interested in sharing the pie. They want it all; land, resources, power, MONEY.
ManACanadian 1 year ago
@ManACanadian - what a collection of unsubstaintiated allegations & lies you have written. Go & learn your facts & stop using anti-Zionism as the politically correct version of anti-Semitism.
blessings18 1 year ago
@ManACanadian you cant be real.
ImTehWord 1 year ago
Well done Embassador Indyk, you are a true, well educated Jew! Finkelstien, is a schmok, who capitalises on alleged Jewishness only when he attacks Israel /Jews & respects terrorists. No Jew would have acted in such a dishonest & irrational way as Finkelstein does. Please expell him out of the USA & send him to Gaza, Syria or Iran, where he will feel at home. Indyk has the of education & experience in this field, that truth distorters like Finkelstien can only dream about.
blessings18 1 year ago
@blessings18 I always wondered how Nazis justified killing innocent people. Thank you for providing the explanation by your distorted and sick understanding of the situation, justifying the killing of innocent Palestinians. Finkelstein is courageous.
ManACanadian 1 year ago
@ManACanadian you sound like an ill-informed, truth distorting anti-Semite. My understanding of the situation is based on facts & direct experiences. When the IDF was forced to act in its latest operation in Gaza, it was after civillians in Israel suffered from over 8,000 rockets launched at them by hamas & Co., in te 4 years AFTER Israel withdrew from Gaza. I suppose you believe the Israelis/Jews should have continued suffering raher than defending themselves?
blessings18 1 year ago
@ManACanadian 2) Just for the record, there has never been a state called Palestine & the Fakestinians are offsprings of Arabs Colonists who moved into the land from other Arabs areas. Israel was re-established as a Modern state in 48 after a UN vote & on the British Mandate which formed most Modern Arab states with the French & Italians. Prior to 67, Gaza belonged to Egypt & the West Bank to Jordan. Learn your facts & return for an insult free debate.
blessings18 1 year ago
@blessings18 Spoken like a true Zionist! Fortunately those who have an ounce of knowledge realize at no time was there ever a Jew nation, nor was there ever a "Jew" race. Not a single Jew stood before Mount Sinai when God delivered the Law to Israel, and God never made any covenant with the Jews. Those who call themselves Jews today falsely imply they are somehow descendants of the tribes of Israel and chosen of God. ZIONIST should return to their rightful home - Russia!
Morningmist69 1 year ago
CNN = Fox News
New York Times = Wall Street Journal
Amy Goodman = Rush Limbaugh
Norm Finkelstein = Glenn Beck
Noam Chomsky = Alan Dershowitz
All American news = Propaganda
Thanks, America.
boobsman69000 1 year ago
@boobsman69000
BOOBS!
Finkelstein = Beck?!?!?!?!?
thanks. that was a good laugh.
18bites 1 year ago
Indyk "I didnt think i was going to be in some kind of debate" hahahaha what are you worried for, if you speak the truth what problem do you have or is it that because Finkelstein is there you cant spout the usually yank and israeli lies ah boo fucking hoo.
GoatRaper09 1 year ago
INDYK pronounced In Dick. He got a vagina.
Apocalypse487 1 year ago
i thinkk indyk sud had nown or told he was gonna get in a dabat.. not on bu respect to finkistien. makes alot ov sence
rudeboywaz 1 year ago
haha, Finkelstein looked PISSED when they announced his name for some reason!
I would absolutely hate to debate the guy though, he's like rain-man in regards to memory and Chomsky in regards to thought.
BlindPacemaker 1 year ago
democracy now is pro Arab, period.
emilram 1 year ago
More Finkelstein and International Law on my Channel Peace.
LSRochon 1 year ago
Martin is obviously intimidated by Norman.
He feels "sand bagged" by Normans presence.
He has no ammo and is utterly defenseless when confronted with the truth. Hmmmmm.
So the truth is his enemy.
What a piece of garbage Martin is.
What a calculating, honest, truthful thinker Norman is.
Long live the truth!!!!!
Junk4Q2 1 year ago 18
Zionists are totally in charge of America...
hamza1947 1 year ago
@hamza1947 first America and then You:)
emilram 1 year ago
i try not to hate real life trolls but this martin guy is really making me boil.. throughout this so called "debate" he speaks as if his book is above question and as though everyone HAS to read it to be on par with his (biased) knowledge... seriously he treats this thing almost like an add "read my book! read my book! i hope the viewers will read my book"! why would we sponsor someone (buy someone's book) who refuses debate and distorts facts so horribly that cant defend them in an open debate.
xephremon 1 year ago 3
Norman Finkelstein is Great man.
Free Palestine
princeym 1 year ago 12
c how Martin indyk resorts to self censure by avoiding to say Hamas win a democratically contested elections- he stops and changes his words by saying how they took power by force in a competition. He looks like a recalcitrant bastard
tareekhnawees 1 year ago 3
More on Finkelstein on my channel
In conclusion, the Court considers that Israel cannot rely on a right of self-defence or on a state of necessity in order to preclude the wrongfulness of the construction of the wall. The Court accordingly finds that the construction of the wall and its associated régime are contrary to international law.
-International Court of Justice in the Hague
Press Release 2004/28
LSRochon 1 year ago
How can anyone go on as long as Indyk does without saying one truthful, reasonable thing?
oldjoe5 1 year ago 13
Because the "People" arent in control, Democracy is BS Propaganda is king.
TheDavidDukeChannel 1 year ago
i agree 100%
yordanosi 1 year ago
Let me see if I got this right.
The Palestinians elected Hamas as their government...but somehow they took it in a "putsch"? How does that work?