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  • Beautiful words, beautiful woman

  • I'm not going to say much here other than our entire existence is built on a system of control, be it someone controls us or we control each other. Some higher energy force should take over the reigns before complete chaos breaks out. Control doesn't necessarily stem from egotism. It can stem out of necessity. Ego is a word created by humans. It might mean something to you, but it means nothing to me. If I can get the power to control all living beings, at least they would be peaceful.

  • @ladyforest35 Existence is built on sharing and not control. You will never have the power to control all living beings. If that were possible then "god" would be able to do that. Each being has its own perspective and that is where suffering arises, from the mind not from outside the body. Only the individual can find peace by realizing that they have the power to return to zero point silence and stillness at any moment regardless of what appears to be happening in the outside world.

  • lol...cyclic

    

  • I agree with a lot of what you say. Mainly that we are one with the universe. There are a lot of people who think we are separate from it. Some believe humans hold a special place in the scheme of things. That we are above all creation.

    We are not above all creation. We are special, so are all other living beings, no matter the state of development. We humans are subject to all the laws of nature, just like everything else.

  • A lot has been said in the past 10,000 years about immortality and life after death. Many a great thinker has struggled to find the answers to this great mystery. They have come up with all kind of ideas about it too. Alas, they will remain ideas. No one can know the experience of "after life" until one has been committed to death forever. The living can not know the domain of death except by dying.

  • Don't get me wrong about death. Even though we can not know if our consciousness some how remains, we do still exist after death, and we existed even before we were born.

    Every single part of you, even down to the smallest division, has existed in one form or the other always, and will continue.

    I guess that is why, when I look at the bones of one who lived in the past, I still see a person. They are not just dead people's bones. They are still people.

  • They are people who are still traveling the corridors of time. They are people who have walked further than I. They are in the process of becoming a part of something else.

    It is nice to try to gain insight into death. After all, life and death are just two sides of the same coin.

    It doesn't matter if our consciousness persists after death. Take comfort in the fact that you are a part of existence. That you always were and always will be.

  • Cari, have not heard from you in a week...excuses or reasons?

    Here is the email response:

    See Cari, if you were really of the TRUE LIGHT, you would boldly come back to me with an answer. Yin and Yang chick, you met more than your match. I am sickened by the lukewarm, half-baked 'spiritualists' who have no clue on how to attain Immortality. There is NO DEATH in THE LIGHT which is LIFE....DUH.

  • @MichaelBoryAlis Zero density is not a destination. It is a state of being that is the center point of all things. Your atoms have a point of zero density because that is the point where matter becomes matter. You are talking about attaining immortality in your body and that is NOT the goal of a spiritualist. Immortality is what the consciousness achieves when it is not limited by the illusory body. When you are able to move your awareness beyond your physicality and dimensions.

  • @MichaelBoryAlis When we die we achieve immortality if we remain lucid in the awareness of being one with all that is. It is beyond personality and identity. As long as we cling to identity we are deluded. Being immortal does not mean living in the same body forever. That is eternal death because matter is the result of spirit being BLOCKED and seeking a way out. That is why trees stretch out of and into the ground fractal. That is the true nature of life but it is trapped in a death paradigm.

  • @MichaelBoryAlis My delayed response has to do with the fact that I have been living life and I am not glued to the computer.

  • jOHN 8:51 HE THAT KEEPETH MY SAYINGS SHALL NEVER SEE DEATH.

  • Cari, do you know anyone who has attained Zero-Density yet?

  • Matthew 6:22 If your eye is single (focused) your whole body shall be filled with light.

    

  • You look good for a 45 year old. When it comes to manifestations, I myself have yet to speed up the process, but once we are ready to manifest and harness energy from the zero-point field, we will be more honest to our abilities. For now, I try to find jobs, but now all I think is that if I dwell on visualizations, and see it and feel it, I can have it without having to work from what's "out there".

  • Relax about 2012, the only thing that happens is that people get aware of our economic system and that all the focus goes to our love for eachother (I hope I don't sound like a ffn hippy) but this is already happening...

  • ???

  • It so refreshing to see others that realize the reality of Quantum physics and what is considered meta-physical, to me its the real science of spirituality. thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences. Dogma is indeed poisonous and applies to both religion and science when the truth can be found somewhere in between its time we repaired those damaged bridges.

    The elitism within the metaphysical society is as, if not more, damaging than any of the wars or clinical detachment of science. 

  • I like your thoughts. We really do manifest our reality. Desteni misses this point altogether thinking we have no control and we cannot manifest.....which is why most followers of Desteni are young and haven't realized their own power. Reality shaped by intent and thoughts. No worries these young followers will grow and bear children and get with the gameplan of their own energy. Young Disease only...very temporary.

  • We are growing as a species at a very alarming rate, we have advanced more in the last 100 years than we have for the last 2000, obviously we have had some sort of contact recently, we have been found.

  • you are a very beautiful woman. 

  • Beautifully said, hon. Namaste.

  • Well thank you for having the gusto to express your thoughts, I agree with allot that you are expressing. Especially when you spoke on humans continuos desire to deal with dens reality, instead of dealing with a higher reality. It sounds like your idea of how to move forward is stemming from and eastern philosophy. I would like to here your thoughts on that. sunone77@yahoo.com

  • awesome! love your work. thank you for sharing your knowings.

  • 2012 is real but very positive...destini weirds me out she thinks she channels nIETZCSHE??? he wouldnt say ANYTHING that she "channelled" so why trust her about anything else?

  • NEWS: BRAND NEW Desteni Truth on youtube - destenitruth's Channel

  • Incredible, I saw that video for the first time today, before even knowing I would be here, and although much of what was said had validity, the energy that accompanied it was very questionable and leaning towards the negative, this disqualified the video for me.

  • July 11th Rosh Chodesh Menachem Ave, there shall be a great out pouring of frequencies, on this day a total solar eclipse shall occur. The third in a row on this day.

  • Here is another way to understand...Check it out!

    People without center, generally at an early age need to find identity in order to feel they belong on the planet. Hence: Groups

    When an individual is grouped whether it be a certain religion, sport, military etc. they find people to confide in and give meaning. Nothing wrong with that at an early age..Here is where they fall astray: Once grouped they refuse to gain knowledge about other groups on a positive level. The mind becomes LOCKED!

  • There is nothing wrong with connection. It is measuring worth by your connection that leads to suffering as with all things. Attachment casues suffering. Do an enjoy. Be and enjoy. You are eternal and not locked into an identity. Identity is fun but not real. Support groups allow us to break free from the illusion of separation and see that we are not alone, how everything is interconnected. Attaching to identity as a group is as bad as attaching to self. We are notes in a melody. Resonating

  • 2012~You decide>>>This is a private video

    Am I not allowed to watch this video?

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    Life is a dance, meant to sing and laugh and all along the way we waited, we waited for this great thing to happen that society had told us about, school, college, grad school and we are still waiting? -Allan Watts

  • Great video, I agree with all the points you made. Reading the comments has been interesting too. Some pretty unhappy people on here. Whatever happened to just being nice to eachother? lol

  • "Reality is potential shaped by intent."

    Great words there : )

  • Blissweaver, You have a solid grasp of things. Great video.

  • lol

    and you prove my point again

  • Lol shall we show everyone the comment you have just removed? (because I got it in the email!!!) ------- "Frosti2008 has replied to your comment on 2012 Physics Nature of the Universe: @jamblinuk OUT you weak and lazy inactive pathetic parasite. Abnormal shizoid paranoic cursed un-natural depressive self-mutilated life from. Reptilian whore pristesses of the ophionic deseasing dump sadomized. You can reply back by visiting the comments page. " ------- You just prove my point - you talk shit
  • see, you do not really have anything to say ' you just talk shit

  • See how limited you are, completly unable to provide any kind of assistence even though you think that I am somehow a "zombie"

    It is too easy to write like that knowing that you are safe behind your computer right? If you where in front of me, you would not utter any of those words.

    your misery will take care of you.

    enjoy your shit

  • lol

    These words have just revealed who you are as spitefulness - and this has revoked all of your channel.

    You are a hipocrit, and you believe yourself to be god

    how silly you have just revealed yourself to be to the whole world.

    your words have no substance what so ever.

    Your attemp of insult is simply laughable, foolish, pathetic, ridiculous and wacky -- which is who you have BECOME.

    I am not fucking with myself anymore. I suggest you do the same, and start applyign some self forgiveness

  • Self-honesty cannot be defined - self honesty can only be lived -as LIFE can only also be LIVED

    One must find out for oneself what self honesty really means -and this is done through applying self forgiveness -- have you applied self forgiveness??(to "master" your ego/disengage your ego from WHO YOU ARE)

    unless you do it, you will not compreend what self-honesty really means (and you will not "understand" Desteni)

    You will only refuse to apply self forgiveness if you fear letting go your ego

  • "Im not saying what is right or wrong, Im just telling you that your Ego is the cause of suffering in this world."

    I love that dense expression of yours.

  • Pan~Actually Buddha and Jesus said that before I did. That is not a direct quote from me but it IS what I am saying. Imbalanced ego and attachment to desires, judgment of others and ignorance is the cause of suffering. Its not right or wrong its just the affects of polarity. I have to practice non attachment and mastering ego just like everyone else. This is why I am not insulted by rude remarks. I don't have to satisfy my ego by insulting you. Why would I insult someone I consider part of me?

  • You kick ass. You should do more videos:)

  • alrighty....

  • Darryl - Why do you "need" to be acknowledged ? And if you do fix the world (good luck on that one) what if we are so happy to be "fixed" we forget to thank you for fixing us ? Will our being fixed be enough for you,or will we be forced to acknowledge your advanced wisdom that removed "suffering" from the entire universe ? - Dude you really need to have a serious and long think about what you're saying. Your ego is out of control. No really it is !

  • ?? mrnewball?? Who that hell are you and why do you need to post that comment to me under a fake screen name, thus invalidating what you say by not having the courage to address me directly like a man? At least you know my name and the comments I stand for. You're a coward. I shall address you as one. And you know what, I would rather be seen having an "ego" than be seen as what you are; a little coward taking shots at me hiding behind a fake name. Please, astound me more with your "wit."

  • I have no desire to be dragged into an argument with you. I don't agree with what you say,your video is embarrassing,the content is deluded egocentric nonsense. If you believe that my opinion somehow (quite how your logic works,I know not) makes me a coward,so be it. Your opinion of me is your business. However,because you are prepared to judge others,others will obviously judge you and you'd better grow some thicker skin or stop pontificating. This is my last comment. :O)

  • My skin is quite thick, mrfakescreenname. I have to judge you where I find you, fakename, so everyone else can see what you stand for. And what you seem to stand for is to criticize behind the safety of a fake name. Sorry, but that's cowardice in FACT. I know it takes guts to put videos out where everyone can attack you, but you're a little smaller than that, mr. fakey. Crawl back to that anonymous little hole you slithered out of and darken someone else's door who has a fancy towards cowards.

  • Meaning God is projected Ego. Zeno and Anaxagoras almost had it right.

  • Looks like I'll be waiting for a long time, "Frosti."

  • Gee, "Frosti," way to spread the love.

  • You shouldn't hold in your emotions like that Frosti~ :) Peace!

  • All who stand for peace, love (oneness/acceptence of others) creative freedom, the unbridled imagination and immortality of the human soul, LET NO ENTITY LOWER your vibration with their ignorant attacks. We are here to hold a frequency and that frequency is LOVE. It is not a nice idea. It is a LONG wave. SURF'S UP! Master your vessel or drown in a sea of chaos. Sorry for the drama but I've been listening to Sphongle.

  • Thank you Blissweaver for taking the time to make the video. Appreciated!

  • You're welcome! Thanks to everyone that comments and considers opinions objectively.

  • Actually I know exactly why I use the word "hate" I use it because Desteni's agenda makes me puke and it disgusts me and it's repulsive if you are actually alive. I hate things like that. Simple enough. Look, I don't need to do any word games or go explore the deepest depth of every thought. I don't care!. That kind of thing is for the elite of the thinkers. My job is to use my heart and you guys are just messed up is what my heart tells me. So I HATE It. If you don't get it Fuck Off

  • interesting... you agree more with desteni messages than what you think.

  • Hey authmaax, I don't think Blissweaver is a communist at all! What she is saying is nothing like Desteni. Desteni says empty your mind of everything you have ever had so that Desteni can replace it with their mind control software. You aren't aware but when they turn it on, you people will be like night of the living dead. You've been transformed into zombies and you don't even know it.

  • the energys of the mind are visible but as she said the mind must be controlled by the being before 1 is permited to see. in that; god IS the physical body.

    you can also see them after death but then all that is un-subconscious will catch you by surprise.

    control energy's and self direct, using 'symbols'. current tool is SRA course. one uses the body to decode, the words (as symbols of compressed energy) that enslave the being. its done alone, as self responsability. simple silencing energy

  • but as you see in desteni material....

    they went very deep and specific in explaining all the mind energetic designs that are implanted in the body and DNA.

    that is technical knowledge and wont be explained much further, as long as human reveals himself as a abuser of power as knowledge...

    its the original sin.. free-choice as spitefullness...

    choosing to be something other than the silence of the mind (of the energy) that enslaves everything as he simply "percieves"

    remember dr.quantum?

  • No Im not a communist. Communism is a great idea if you don't believe in individuality & freedom of choice. If you like having an elite group telling you what to say & feel&think and you want to depend on them for your existence~ perfect. This idea that we all need the same amount of money is fear based and doesn't solve any problems. It doesn't end hunger, FOOD does (or mind control). It doesn't end hate or suffering. Self control and love (acceptance/connectedness with all) does.

  • What is even more interesting is that most do not realize that~ NOR the IMPORTANT differences between what I am saying and what they are saying. There are two paradigms, Science of Life and Science of Death. Neither is right or wrong.All beings return to potential energy(source) eventually. Science of death is to try to control consciousness of others pushing the lie of mortality. Science of life is controlling your own consciousness and mastering existences until YOU decide to return to source.

  • source is not consciousness... are we speaking with the same knowledge of what is real?

    the source of "enslavement" is seen in reverse by the mind as life living purity.

    so... when you say "return to potential energy(source)" this is what is known by desteni as... stop the mind(ing) stop consciousness.. because knowing its original design "it" cant be trusted to manifest equality.

    "mind" will always see everything as beautiful and perfect... etc... from here darkness IS the source, the ONE.

  • EXCELLENT question finally. Source as in POTENTIAL energy. That is all there is. Potential and Kinetic. There is NOTHING else. And no such thing as nothing if there is potential. It is NOT mind. Consicousness is collected information by a self aware energy system from the information field (space). Energy exists with or without a conscious mind to perceive it. Consiousness expands & shapes energy. Consiousness is a beings awareness/mind system. Awareness=freedom. Ignorance =slave

  • Either we control ourselves and our minds or we don't. DP will insist that we can't. Telling you, you can't do something is a power trip. If we can't then why even bother talking about it? End ones self as energy? That means kill your body. Even then you aren't stopping energy. This is all ignorance. Dark and light are the same thing/energy. One you can see and one you can't. You only see a particular range of frequencies Light is only good because that is where HEAT/LIFE is.

  • well. ok. desteni describes consciousness specificaly as the polar systems that were created to generate move energy as you say... potential and kinetic... i would refer that as ... EVIL-lotion evolution.

    this said to call attention to the point that, all was moved and potentiated to a specificaly designed purpose... and here's the hard part for some..

    feelings thoughts and emotions are ALL kinetic energy and accumulated energy potential.. and lead to abuse and sufering of some beings.

  • Thoughts are potential energy. Actions lead to abuse. Attachment to thoughts cause suffering. Not the thoughts. I can think of being killed or killing and not attach to it to where I am fearful or act on it. This is mind control. Emotions are kinetic in that we release energy from thoughts we have attached to. Tears, laughter. just because we can't control ourselves does not mean thoughts and emotions are evil. Polarity is polarity. North is not worse than south.

  • Polarity was not created to fuck with humans. Fear of loss causes bi polar thinking (discriminating thoughts). Our Self is EGO. When imbalanced due to fear of loss (Illusion) we are not in control of mind. Rather than try to delete, remove or pretend things don't exist, control your mind! This is the whole problem with DP program. They do not promote self empowerment. Their focus is on removing obstacles not mastering them, controlling everything and everyone but self.

  • You know what Bliss...That's all VERY true. We run into those truths everyday in our various experiences. We magnetize experiences that can help us transmute and transcend. But, instead, we can often feel victimized. It's all about the awareness and to appreciate and bless the exercize. Then make use of it. But those who see things in a solely exoteric way want desperately to control the whole world to save THEMSELVES from suffering. That's part of why they self hate.

  • Yes. Esotericism. You can have your ideas about the way things are but to force them on others is the problem. I believe esoterisicm is the result of fear. Self hate is feeling separate,not understanding that you do not need acceptance or love from others. This is where DP is sort of on it. You don't have to feel love from someone to know and experience LOVE (equal as one). Cravings/desire/need for acceptance is not love. Definitions are important for mutual understanding. This is good dialog

  • Transmutation is the trick. If we see where we are, in an instant we can reverse the polar feeling. That's where all as one comes in. " If thine eye is single, thy body will be full of light." When we embrace the positive through the negative we achieve singularity. Singularity is the way to the light. But at times it can be really tough to do depending on how we're feeling it. So much R-complex reactiveness. That where fear, hate, aggression and territoriality originate.

  • So true. When you start talking about the light and they will say that it creates darkness yada yada Missing the point. The egyptians/jesus/buddha weren't making this stuff up because they were bored. He he And it certainly wasn't to be in control of others. Reptilian brain doesn't want hear it.. . . Too bad right?

  • Yup...too bad! Reptilian brain wants complete control of it's environment. Kind of like an alligator. He's at peace if there's no stimulus, but, stimulus causes instant reaction. But hey...there are people who understand the alligator very well and they can handle him with compassion and a bit of love and that being so their awareness is such that they rarely get injured. They see him as he is and they accept that. All of the masters understood that about us and our struggles.

  • Those who "prayed to the gods" were simply deceived, just as those who are deceived by the CandyLand metaphysical deception contained in the opinions of 'authority.' You've been deceived by a lie of your own making.

  • A nice theory, 'ancestral,' but unfortunately, more of the same truth-claim disease that permeates all discussions of spiritualism.

  • Yes...I 'm sure you see it that way. Communists generally do. That would be because they know nothing of what goes on inside of themselves except to hate it. That has to be painfully destructive. You have power beyond your imagining. It's quite linked to the same power used in the martial arts. In wave form it's called superlight. Therein is healing. For you and everyone and everything you choose to touch. But you're never going to know about it if you hate yourself.

  • I am here today in more clarity than ever before with practicing the Self Forgiveness. It is a tool of facing yourself and realizing your own self deceptions. I used to believe in a lot of things, everything else but myself. One of the things I worked on was Self Trust, Self-Confidence and the perception of "love" i had built in my mind. And they were all connected to my "experiences", recorded in my mind that this is just how things are. Well it's not just how things are. Today I stand

  • stronger than ever. When all definitions are let gone off (cuz that is the number one cause of miscommunication), we can talk the same language and still not understand each other bc of the different perspectives and definitions and experiences, that we have been tought, experienced or became subject to since we are born depending on environment, society, culture, blah blah the list can go on forever.

  • So yes deprogramming these meanings makes a lot of sense. And thru self expression there can not be confusion in words and statements as we become the living word, meaning that which I do is what I truly present in self honesty and self expression. See I understand Desteni. It is a transitional point to provide the time for ppl to wake up of their mind state and finally to stand in ONE starting point as truth and not MANY starting points such as opinions. The truth cannot be an opinion.

  • Cari, did you ever consider WHY you invested so much of yourself into something that's not accessible to the eye or relates to the real world?

  • This is where you are completely in the dark about DP - realising who you really are = being in control of yourself, truly in control I mean. It's not to get rid of the mind (the mind in itself is a tool) but about realizing and establishing you are not the mind.

    Really, I read your words and I notice you and me are not different in what we perceive to be true...

  • You know, I have noticed that typically in history, the most evil are truly cowards and wimps. I mean Napolean was a little tiny man and Hitler was too. I mean talk about overcompensating. Another interesting fact is theyr'e always very deep thinkers and always disregard a child's logic. They think and talk about such big things that most people just assume that theyr'e right because they don't understand.

  • It seems the same with these guys. They just sit there and say stuff that doesn't make any sense but they get their friends to jump in and say the same thing to try to bring in some validity to it. You see, when you say things like "War on Love", or when you call people an abuser because they value family or the bonds of marriage, then that is just stupid. Having people jump in and help you out doesn't change that. Up is down, and right is wrong.

  • It breaks my heart just to hear what these people are saying. They have made the good to out to be evil and the evil out to be good. It makes me sick :( Worse yet they are taking people with good in them and twisting them all around so that they start to spew the same thing. I think I'll go throw up now

  • continuing...

    and that encompasses not merely the human race on earth.. but all existence...

    dimensions densitys... etc...

    thus why your view is "perhaps"... viewed as limited in what regards this subjects.

    read "veno story" at desteni... it has some simplistic references to "source".

    not much knowledge is shared... because slef responsability to the being reveal himself and search for awnsers... the being will have to choose to let go of all knowledge to be able to see what source is

  • .... but the being will do it in first person view...

    not simply because someone told him...

    that's a principle that desteni also follows very strictly.

  • but guys tend to be direct and use 'terminology' that is more readable and have a direct bare impact in others attention... along with already putting responsibility in whoever as reactions to those words se the word "death of mind" ( you allow fear to exist = you allow death because fear -also- causes death, mind creates the feared situation befire it happens... right?) ...so... they might "ask" and make an effort to investigate "why this guys speak like this"?

  • Great minds have attempted to teach these things for centuries. Catch phrases won't cut it. If ego can't be mastered as DP insists, anything they say could be coming from ego rather than objectivity. I say you can master ego and must do so to end suffering. Food and money won't end suffering, it is mindful as well as physical. Master mind or be a slave to it. Control your mind & you are not a slave to fear or any thing/emotion. See how compassion is crucial in this case?

  • Bernard Poolman has vast knowledge of principles of physics and the dimensions. That doesn't mean he is incapable of deception. He says"Do not trust Desteni" for a reason. There is information I agree with and that which I don't. I DO NOT agree mind and body cannot be mastered or that compassion is not necessary for peaceful human existence. What happens in this world when we don't consider others? Suffering. What happens when we attach to things and thoughts and emotions? suffering

  • if you are minding what B. does or say..

    its because you are not living.. HERE as self presence as breath in every moment

    minding your self deceptions

    instead you project on others the deception that exists in you by missing the HERE as breath.

    physicallity is a polarity of free will of energy aka consciousness

    do you think you are living? by giving power away to thoughts?

    this problem is the most point with all the guys that are with desteni, they (as me) allowed thought/emotion to rule

  • I limited me in my life. as what i do.

    because who-I-am as life and self movement was completely limited by the thougths/feelings emotions

    every time i mind others around me i miss my breathing and myself stable HERE, and miss what relates to my practicall world and more important what i write and apply SF and what i further study of the material

    while this happens life around me goes by me and nothing happens in my life = stuck.

    in this i also miss SEEing common sense of EQUALITY

    get it?

  • Its just another way of saying you attached to thoughts and emotions. You were distracted by the outside world. Focus on breathing is CONSCIOUS breathing optimizing bodily functions/health. And helps us to detach from thoughts and emotions good or bad.We are saying the exact same thing. The difference is that equality has nothing to do with peace. Humans are NOT equal other than we are all energy/part of the eternal self. Were all learning at different levels independently. Equality in what?

  • If this phrase "equal as one" does not mean we are equal as potential energy then it is implying that we are equal physically. And that is not true. This MUST be defined for anyone to understand exactly what you mean. Common sense has nothing to do with equality. Common sense is "what makes sense to the majority". That's it. It isn't a tangible resource. Phrases like "Equal as one" and "common sense" are not advise. They are words without context.

  • see the video called

    Clarity -- Seeing DIRECT

    watch?v=pzE2f6ID7gQ

    about how the HERE tihng plays a big part in ones expression....

    i also notice that most people around me do it much better than me and their life's simply ... "work".

    my doesn't.

    kembo in the vid... "said it" well ... "man! are we a miss!?!?"

    but he realised it as he spoke it HERE (his here) direct . he saw direct... no consciousness interpretation molding that interpretation!!!!

  • I do understand where you are coming from and appreciate your awakening to these things. But not everyone is on your level of awareness. Some are far beyond you. Others are way beyond. We all struggle but we are not all deluded. Being PRESENT is what this is about. It isn't a big mystery its just difficult to do when you are distracted by thoughts and emotions. Presence stills the mind. True equality is in accepting all as unique individuals and their free expression, without judgment.

  • the context there is:

    I suspect that others that are "beyhond" me will have to come back to lotery fucked programming like the one i had in this life to see really what is real.

    not all deluded yes.. some people -- according to their long time self accepted nature -- currently life lives were their self control and self direction is ok.

    not my case... so to me... self must be first.

    this is not selfishness nor egoism though

    its ONE particular point of common sense.

    RTFM!! dont panic!

  • the equality is life...

    it relates to interdimensional energy source we all are that can take any for ... animal plant object water etc... "essence" (sound) that the cience have identified yet.. although some are starting to get.

    in that one and equal "dimension" (context) that as poles we see that some of us life painfull lifes and others life "blissfull" lifes...

    as existence is one the ones that are creating "bliss" existence manifests the opposite to balance itself out. (polar matrix)

  • Animals kill and eat each other. There is no equality but survival of the fittest. We have a cerbral cortex that gives us the ability to cooporate and act in kindness. The fall from grace is participating in judgment rather than allowing everyone to be what they are. My kids fought over whose toy was best. Giving them the same toys to keep them from fighting is not the answer. They need to learn to appreciate what they have,not judge and control their mind and body.

  • Trying to create a world where everyone has the same things and no one is allowed to be happy because someone else is suffering is BULLSHIT. That is enabling people to not take responsibility for their own mind. Please see my definitions on my channel. Bliss/love is NON attachment. It is not the opposite of anything. It is freedom from polarity and judgement. One is omnipresent lucid and conscious in bliss not oblivious. Oneness of bliss ensures compassion. Fear causes imbalance/judgement

  • Bliss is not a luxury. Everyone can access it. It requires meditation and practice/experience. If you haven't experienced bliss you are still participating in judgement and attachment. When you let go of controlling others and things and allow and accept what is,even yourself, THAT IS forgiveness. This is where DP is fucking with peoples minds. "I forgive myself for allowing and accepting". No! you forgive yourself for being judgemental, not accepting others & for not controlling your SELF!

  • so equality is to be manifested in the physicality for starters between humans

    it must be dealt at acceptances level at the mind level which is the origin of the separation.

  • Not an alternative? It IS an alternative. You meant it isn't an option most likely. Because you are a control freak. Money's a failed system. Indigenous peoples have healthy social structures. Elite controlled societies do not. Life does not depend on or care about money. We know you are not kind. Money was created to divide and conquer, hord and control. You are using the suffering of others to justify the system reponsible for it in the first place. Laughable and tragic. Love and kisses

  • LMy AssOFF

  • Equal money system ? I'd actually prefer no money or desperate clutching,grasping for material wealth,ain't gunna happen I'm afraid. As for laws of attraction,I'm not certain,and I don't think anyone really is,but I tend to believe or at least feel that those you wish to equalise would end up back in poverty pretty quick,of course we can't prove that and it's not a case of blame or guilt. What we can do is be kind,firstly to self,then others. This thread's getting a little out of control..

  • Ahhh selfing ! Better than,lesser than,equal too ! All wrong ? What tugs at me is their raison d'être ?

    Why do they proselytize ? Who are you

    CenkKaptanoglu ? You certainly seem to have your ego working quite effectively ? If you're so enlightened why do you feel the need to judge, compare and equalise ? You are clearly in a state of contradiction or confusion. So who are you ? Don't be shy now :O)

  • If I were not in control of the energies I AM I would react violently to every insult, thought and emotion from the reptilian brain~Kill to survive physically and emotionally. The higher brain allows more control over an organisms energy Energy doesn'y have an agenda Energy is potential and action. Without a consciousness (information) to harness it It simply shapes matter according to the information in a given EM field. I give up on people who presume to know my intentions and state o mind

  • I disagree that manifesting anything by implication means that someone else goes without or suffers as a result of you gaining it. The example of a car was given: from that car came employment in the design,manufacture & assembly,someone sold it and from that transaction a chain of new transactions arose. Who has gone without ? Who has suffered ? Those who look for suffering will never be disappointed. As you thinketh........

  • Perhaps you will actually hear Desteni's true message when absolutely nothing happens on 2012, and all of your spiritual hopes and dreams of escape from REALity through ascension or being taken away by a space ship or whatever of many 2012 spiritual religions you believe in fails. Can you not see how you're all being fucked with by your minds? Only one thing is certain, the physical, that which you can touch and actually see.

  • Can you touch and actually see gamma waves? Do they affect you? Yes they do. Rethink your reality rather than telling others what their reality is. Reality is not what is or is not. It is potential shaped by intention. If you didn't have a mind to receive information you would not be deluded into thinking that "physical" as in solid is all there is. Physical is actually all energy in motion and nothing is really solid. Attaching mindfully to physical causes density. We shape physical with mind

  • You didn't actually hear what I said in the video. The date is not the focus. Control of your own mind and body is. They are trying to distract you form your SELF for a reason. Anyone telling you we do not have control over our own minds and body is trying to control you. The world owes us nothing. We are responsible for creating our own reality. To say we need to be self honest to save the millions who are starving and then deny that compassion necessary is psychotic and irresponsible.

  • Cek.. If you are a victim of the Desteni Mind control project, it makes no difference what you said because your on a mission to destroy but you will fail. Wer'e here to stomp on you and crush you like bugs.

  • He he What? What exactly am I destroying? And what are you crushing? You're funny. . .You've been playing to many violent video games my friend. Im not a victim of anything. Thank you for the warning.Let me guess. . .you have an Austrian Accent? Promoting self control and compassion really doesn't include death and destruction.

  • Actually Desteni's true message is absolute tyranny. They have no interest in spiritual matters or 2012 or anything except for fulfilling their agenda that they were programmed for which is to spread dis information on everything and try to confuse people to the point of your global tryannical agenda of absolute state control. Now James, Take your RFID Chip and shove it!

  • Hi vaprose. You confused my point earlier. I am CEKmusic. I am DP's worst enemy. They have blocked me all over the place He he. The reason for confusion is because they are using subtle messages behind what appears at first to be logic. When you really get down in it you see that these stolen zen principles are dangerous when compassion is disregarded. Zen without compassion is communism. IT was created to brainwash the Asian armies that practiced buddhism. Bernard is a "death science" genious.

  • I empower in order to equalize, Commanding opportunity. I seal the store of death With the overtone tone of radiance. I am guided by the power of timelessness. Equalising Death *

    When operating in the light of my energy, the positive aspects are: Release, Forgiveness, Humility, Death, Spirit, Ancestors, Revelation, Shaman, Multidimensional Transmutation, Surrender

  • When operating in the shadow of my energy, typical symptoms are: Struggle and resistance. Fear of death. Fear of letting go of the old. Feeling the need to be in control.

    Transformation:

    To come out of the shadow: Listen to the part of you that is calling out for death and transformation Receive its wisdom. Look for new people, new ideas and new directions. Forgive, let go.

    My Life Question: How best can I empower myself?

  • "I empower in order to equaliz..."

    Meaningless words, lightworker. You will die and see for yourself just how light and words of power fare against what comes for all.

  • Yes I will. Equal as one is meaningful but empowering to equalize is not? This says everything about what you fear. Empowerment of others. I dont pretend to know what others need to do or think or feel like you do. If consciousness doesnt survive death how will I "see" you were right?If all that matters is material existence then why would I waste my life doing & believing what other people tell me is reality? Reality is potential shaped by intent. These things are not material by the way.

  • If I do SEE for myself after I DIE that means I am conscious after death and see that I exist beyond physical as energy. How do you not see your contradictions? Empower in order to equalize means you have to have self control/to be empowered to put equality into action in this LIFE. Just SAYING we are equal as one does NOTHING. THEY are just meaningless words. Empower to equalize is from the Mayan Oracle which is based on physics not religion. Ego balance not Ego itis Try to focus

  • Desteni Productions is a group of people whose focus is on self hate and world communism. That's what they want the "destiny" to be. It's clear that their feelings are being manipulated by those who are in high powered places and want to say that human beings are "bad" for the earth and therefore for the purposes of improving the earth, humans should be forcefully controlled. David Rockefellar put's funding behind such groups. Sad to see those like them who are so incredibly lost.

  • The message shared by Desteni is clear - It is the Human influence on the Earth that is the cause of Suffering.

    Equality should be a Basic Human Right where everyone has Equal access to the Earths resources

  • When people understand the truth about the function of the Law of Attraction there will be complete equality instead of projecting their reality while asleep at the wheel.

  • The LOA is actually under the Law of Balance. Understand that, when you attract, you attract it from somewhere. You having more means someone else having less. The car doesn't just appear from universal matter, it comes from earth, the money that has been put into making it, labour, time, sweat, tears of other human beings. And you just attracted it. Does that seem fair to you?

  • The Law of Attraction is about human consciousness principles and Universal abundance. It's based in the idea of endless creativity and zero point. Your law of balance is about old world principles of scarcity and dominance. It's lodged in the limbic cortex and is more related to animal behaviors of territoriality and dominance. It's quite time to become fully human embracing HUMAN principles and to grow out of darwinism and scarcity. Darwinism is an elite principle.

  • LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :D ok, you I'm not assisting. Rockefeller... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! (Indignant laugh) see you on the other side, man.

  • The only other side your going to see is the one that you create. If you believe in self hate, which the desteni crowd does, then you'll have all the reasons to keep doing it. That's what religion does pushed along by the elite. Keep you and everybody else hating themselves and needing an exterior control mechanism. That where the " born in sin" nonsense comes from and the self hate people perpetuate it.

  • If you are a desteni robot, then yes your whole existence is serving the Rockefellers.

  • Do you have David Rockerfeller's phone number? He's behindf on his desteni dues.

  • Did you know that while Rockefellar was collecting tax money for weapons production to fight the "red communists" he was also funding Mao Tse Tung saying that China's oppression of it's people was the ideal world control model?  He thought that communism was and is the ideal. Existence at the whim of the state. And it's very clear that your group's prefferred ideology is that very thing.

  • He also Praised Chinese Communism as a model of government that works well. Desteni likes to separate themselves from communism but from what they say is no different. When you finally win the argument on that, then they resort to stupid remarks like, Communism has lost it's bad name it had in the 50's. Well Desteni, Why don't you ask the millions of Tibetan monks who were slaughtered as a result of YOUR Policies.

  • That's would be absolutely right.

     I've had "conversations" with the Destini crowd and clearly they are about communism and all of the ramifications that go with it. That's exactly what serves the elite system.

  • Aaah well, and what about those millions of people slaughtered and starving because of the capitalism system?

    Are you from the US? I noticed on the news and documentaries and so on - US people are quite into this capitalism system, believing it is all about free speech and stuff, but not realising that they themselves are being controlled by this system.

    ps I'm from The Netherlands

  • Ingrid, I apologize for immediately jumping to judgement about you because your'e a desteni supporter. I have had many conversations with them, and I'm a bit tainted. However in regards to capitalist system failing, I made a video a couple ago that talks about why capitalism has failed. Check out my videos titled Capitalism, Corporatism... etc. and Equal Money Solutions:

  • True. BTW way I love The Netherlands. Why doesn't anyone see that it isn't a particular monetary system or social system that fixes the prob. Controlling others and lacking compassion is the problem. As long as we discriminate between what system is right and what is wrong we are playing the game. People can't be judged by the system they are under. We are all controlled by those systems until we break free and say no more. Those who seek control of others~let go.Control your self.

  • I totally agree. The need for control over others and lacking compassion is besides cause also result... I do not believe that simply by having a total new money system all people will be without fear etc. It is a process, for every being in this world to walk through to eventually realize them selves as who they really are. Having enough money for basic needs will solve the problem of survival.

  • Where I differ Ingrid is that we don't need money at all because I know for a fact that we have the technology to feed the world and provide clean water and shelter for all. Not to mention the fact that indigenous tribes don't need money. We just have been programmed to think we need so much. We don't NEED steak, plastic toys, gadgets etc we just want them. We can still have those things but food water and shelter should be freely available. Natural energy systems should be freely available

  • If we need a government for anything it should be to maintain organizations that assist in providing basic needs clean renwable energy and FREE EDUCATION via computers and volunteers. We should do things because we love it not for money. The jobs noone wants can be done by robots and computers. That is what they should be for not for selling shit. Robots don't have to take over the world just help maintain it. WE program the robots. We make the decisions. We are responsible. Nanotech is here now

  • Exactly! Nah, that would be cool - everybody enjoying what they are doing

  • Again LOL I totally agree we don't need all this stuff, just food, water, shelter and stuff like that. I would gladly give up all the extra shit for other human beings to have these basics too. To me an equal money system is just a stepping stone towards a world where people are done with their self interest and we finally actually LIVE - with true compassion for other beings and ourselves. continued

  • Let's be practical - to have such a place we have to take action, just discussing and arguing about it wont get us there. I think equal money for all would be a cool start :)

    btw money in itself is just a tool, an exchanging tool - we've made it to be our main goal in life

  • This is what I am doing. Self sustained farm. Living with less. Learning to survive on native plants. Promoting technologies that balance along the way. The path is multifaceted. There are many ways and many minds to bring ideas to the table. Global oneness infrastructure designed by creative individuals is a great idea. We are moving now (thanx China) to gold and silver backed money and segway into technology and resource based economy. Utopia. My personal favorite system of operation.

  • It isn't like this is all a new idea. But people can't live this way if they are being oppressed by control freaks. We had to wait for critical mass to reach this point of shifting.

  • Hi Darryl

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  • I really don't get why you're at all concerned with whether their 2012 prediction is wrong or not,from what I've seen it's cringe worthy ego driven nonsense based upon silly math. My advice is to stick to your path,compassion exists but don't take on other peoples problems,that ain't compassion,ignore those that take even one moment away from your goal. Be kind to your self,don't look too deeply at life,& remove the need to be right,let them be right if it helps,smile back & know it matters not.

  • can you wake up in the morning as breath as inner silence and remain here

    in and as the "matter-I-all" for ever as the living example of no separation?

    until that -: nice hair for a machine:)

    no offense but this sounded as a pro-pagan-da- from a politician - same stuff.

    be aware: you script up your future specifically even within this video- explore breath and realize:-self as honesty is already here...but where you are?

    enjoy the 'why' as root of separation as (in)validation of self. thx: tala

  • What we have seen in the world the past ten years is a lot of unnecessary suffering....suffering that people did not choose, not want or need to experience, that serves no purpose, that has a bad infuence on the quality of life of everyone.

    If everyone would share their knowledge, wisdom and insights (when it's appropriate, meaningful and valuable to an individual or the world), then this could prevent unnecessary suffering and improve the quality of life of everyone.

  • ehm, nope.

  • What we have seen always in Existence is Suffering - The last ten years we´ve had the internet.

  • We live in Kali Yuga....in this age there is more ignorance, dishonesty consequently more suffering. People tend to be more individual in Kali Yuga. In Kali Yuga, however, everyone gets the opportunity to become enlightened...and the sharing of information can be a catalyst in the process.

    Way back in the past there was Satya Yuga...there was honesty, everyone knew the truth and there was less suffering.

  • There' no need to know in 'which age' we're supposedly living in to see that we have completely disregarded Life itself in all ways and that we are living the consequences of that already -

    Enlightenment - there will be no attaining of light here, but only realizing that we've waited too long to Act upon this Earth and create a Real-Livable solution for everyone involved in this creation -

    Yes info is important, disinformation based on beliefs has a contrary effect on actions to be taken

  • Oh, Cari - there will be a video response. Cheers!

  • LOL

    ...another one who claims to have all knowledge!

    nice try LOL

  • "I don't claim to be all knowing" were my exact words. You are annoying just so you know as a physical human. Laugh Out Loud. Try SLOL. Sarcastic laugh out loud is what you really meant right? The arrogance will bite you in the ass one day.

  • LOL - You must speak from experience!

    Well if you say that 'only a little knowledge is dangerous' - that must mean you have all knowledge - and I assure you, you are not alone.

    too bad that even the dimensional beings have proven that knowledge is useless. oh and - there's no dimensions really - everything is Here, if you dare See.

  • I do. I have been a bitch and it did nothing to bring peace. I said I am not all knowing. How many times you would like me to repeat that? So dimensional beings say there are no dimensions? That's humorous. Which means they don't exist. So beings that don't exist proved (with knowledge) that dimensions don't exit and the knowledge they gave you is useless. Please wake up. I don't dictate. I promote choice and self empowerment, compassion and encourage people to use knowledge wisely.

  • ehm, nope.

  • ehm. "Bad Robot"

  • we all tend to say one thing and live another - that is the dishonesty of man