the ending of this piece makes me think there is more! ahhh and it screws with my head making a piece thats unfinished just like the movie inception. We can never know the ending. Maybe it was mahlers idea to to let our imagination fill in the ending :) classical music does improve spacial-temporal memorization.
mahler151..i guess i can see what you're saying...but quartets like verklarte nacht have been orchestrated..but then again, Verklarte Nacht is more "orchestratable"...good point on your behalf
it's really not even a difference in the way of changing...which would be the mere exclusion of the 5th to make it a performable piece, but more interpretation. It could also be orchestrated
Since the 10th symphony is a product of arranging, it wouldn't be too criminal to change the ending. This would make it more performable...after all, there are so many performances and interpretations that "hacks" Mahler and Wagner.
Elongate the 3 notes, eliminate the 5th..keep it minor i with the 3rd..take out the pizzacatos and stacattos. ...and put a fermata at the end...and you have no problem with this cadence. It's a typical Mahlerian/R. Strauss ending to a 1-movement piece/tone-poem.
@JMillerBayRidge Tbh I think I like it better with such an inconclusive ending. Afterall, we never will know how he would've ended it, or if that was just a transition to another movement.
Mainly the last 2 notes were dumb. Maybe because the ensemble didnt play them together. But since the other movements were never written, theres no closure to the piece, especially with that ending. At least end on the tonic...
I dont know if anyone agrees but I think he got a little more happy in the second part.
Holmes221C 4 months ago
the ending of this piece makes me think there is more! ahhh and it screws with my head making a piece thats unfinished just like the movie inception. We can never know the ending. Maybe it was mahlers idea to to let our imagination fill in the ending :) classical music does improve spacial-temporal memorization.
mrknowledgeman 10 months ago
Thank God for Martin Scorcese or I never would have known this brilliant troubling piece ever existed
sagalat 1 year ago 3
Thanks for sharing. I've never heard this extraordinary work before Shutter Island, although I know a little of Mahler's work. Always learning.
NEFERITAMUN 1 year ago
thanks for video and link to the second part))I very like Mahler.
magiaofpiano 1 year ago
@magiaofpiano Don't we all love Mahler? Hehe.
mahler151 1 year ago
@mahler151 ... no, we don't!
hoesey 3 months ago
@hoesey Then remove yourself, with immediacy.
mahler151 3 months ago
@mahler151 ...okey-dokey, I'm outa here... ;)
hoesey 3 months ago
@hoesey
Farewell.
mahler151 3 months ago
mahler151..i guess i can see what you're saying...but quartets like verklarte nacht have been orchestrated..but then again, Verklarte Nacht is more "orchestratable"...good point on your behalf
JMillerBayRidge 1 year ago
it's really not even a difference in the way of changing...which would be the mere exclusion of the 5th to make it a performable piece, but more interpretation. It could also be orchestrated
JMillerBayRidge 1 year ago
@JMillerBayRidge Boy, I dunno. With an orchestra like Mahler's this piece might just sound real muddy.
mahler151 1 year ago
Since the 10th symphony is a product of arranging, it wouldn't be too criminal to change the ending. This would make it more performable...after all, there are so many performances and interpretations that "hacks" Mahler and Wagner.
Elongate the 3 notes, eliminate the 5th..keep it minor i with the 3rd..take out the pizzacatos and stacattos. ...and put a fermata at the end...and you have no problem with this cadence. It's a typical Mahlerian/R. Strauss ending to a 1-movement piece/tone-poem.
JMillerBayRidge 1 year ago
@JMillerBayRidge Tbh I think I like it better with such an inconclusive ending. Afterall, we never will know how he would've ended it, or if that was just a transition to another movement.
mahler151 1 year ago
@mahler151 I agree with you. It's not even necessarily the ending, it's just where he stopped. Much more intimate, I think.
purplehaze0120 8 months ago
Mainly the last 2 notes were dumb. Maybe because the ensemble didnt play them together. But since the other movements were never written, theres no closure to the piece, especially with that ending. At least end on the tonic...
zooplibob 2 years ago
I can understand that, although I must concur with Azunai, how it's a rather anti-climactic.
mahler151 2 years ago
Stupid ending
zooplibob 2 years ago
What did you find stupid about it?
mahler151 2 years ago
I like the ending, throughout there is this big broad sound, and it just... dies away. Very tasteful in my opinion, if unusual.
MasterAzunai 2 years ago 2
It's beautiful, I cried.
iLoveCombatVets 2 years ago 5