Pretty clear that Chopin, in his orchestration sensibilities, was on his way to becoming another Ravel, but was distracted from this path by something or rather, probably women. Never happened to Ravel.
@fredericfranc I think what happened with Chopin wasA)He could achieve more immediate success as a pianist B)He was basically a refugee from 1830 onwards after Poland was takin over by Russia.C)His illness got worse and worse as time went on,and he lacked the energy to write large scale scores.(Look at his early output/1st 22 opuses: There was this piece(OP 2),Piano concerto #1(OP 11)Rondo Krakowiak(OP 13),Fantasia on Polish Airs(OP 14)Piano Concerto #2(Op 21) and Op 22(Andante Spinato
@brianbela ...your explanation is a bit weird. Re. A. Chopin hated performing in public all his life and did this rarely. Re.B. what does being a "refugee" have to do with interest in orchestration? Re.C. he DID write "large scale scores" like the 3 multimovement sonatas, probably harder to do than Op.2, 13, 14, 22...the work on the cello sonata damn near killed him in 1846-47...I suspect women killed his interest in orchestration because they don't appreciate it...
@fredericfranc Well,you only talked about one part of my explanation.Writing OPERAS is a much bigger project than a chamber piece or a piano sonata.And a man suffering with TB might not have had the energy to do that.Also,remember that Chopin spoke Polish,not Italian----and Italian opera was all the rage.My guess is that Chopin MIGHT have felt that he wasnt able to write well for the italian language.(And a "polish opera" probably wouldnt have been well attended.)
Pretty clear that Chopin, in his orchestration sensibilities, was on his way to becoming another Ravel, but was distracted from this path by something or rather, probably women. Never happened to Ravel.
fredericfranc 1 year ago
@fredericfranc I think what happened with Chopin wasA)He could achieve more immediate success as a pianist B)He was basically a refugee from 1830 onwards after Poland was takin over by Russia.C)His illness got worse and worse as time went on,and he lacked the energy to write large scale scores.(Look at his early output/1st 22 opuses: There was this piece(OP 2),Piano concerto #1(OP 11)Rondo Krakowiak(OP 13),Fantasia on Polish Airs(OP 14)Piano Concerto #2(Op 21) and Op 22(Andante Spinato
brianbela 1 month ago
@brianbela ...your explanation is a bit weird. Re. A. Chopin hated performing in public all his life and did this rarely. Re.B. what does being a "refugee" have to do with interest in orchestration? Re.C. he DID write "large scale scores" like the 3 multimovement sonatas, probably harder to do than Op.2, 13, 14, 22...the work on the cello sonata damn near killed him in 1846-47...I suspect women killed his interest in orchestration because they don't appreciate it...
fredericfranc 1 month ago
@fredericfranc Well,you only talked about one part of my explanation.Writing OPERAS is a much bigger project than a chamber piece or a piano sonata.And a man suffering with TB might not have had the energy to do that.Also,remember that Chopin spoke Polish,not Italian----and Italian opera was all the rage.My guess is that Chopin MIGHT have felt that he wasnt able to write well for the italian language.(And a "polish opera" probably wouldnt have been well attended.)
brianbela 1 month ago
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fredericfranc 1 month ago
@brianbela ...with all the women on his hands, Chopin never got a chance to COMPOSE an opera, he already had an opera GOING...
fredericfranc 1 month ago
Splendid! I heard it today on the public radio! Superbe! Thanks for posting this!
Velasquezregreso 1 year ago
@Velasquezregreso
Splendida, anch'io oggi l'ho ascoltata in Radio ( la stessa?). Un grazie a chi l'ha pubblicato
VTSFOCUS 1 year ago
@VTSFOCUS Thank's for clarifying!
007captainobvious 1 year ago
Great performance - very musical, which is rare. Thanks for posting!
mozart2711756 2 years ago