As a Ruud Top Contractor(not related to Wohlers) from the start of the program we would like to comment on these issues. The t in the combustion air is required by the manufacturer to prevent condensation from entering the furnace burner compartment. The venting should be supported every 4 feet to maintain 1/4" per foot pitch. The vent termination should not be behind the condenser unit, it will rust the unit out. The combustion inlet elbow is to be terminated horizontally as it is.
Ive never seen a tee in the exhaust before what is it for and also shouldnt you have supports every 10 ft in that unfinished part to maintain your slope?
2:38 where the heck did they do to that exhaust. That tee is not only collecting the condensate...it's also venting exhaust to where ever they tied it into. THAT'S NOT GOOD. YOUR GONNA HAVE PROBLEMS!
LOL... Whats the point of the TEE (pvc) time ? (2:37 ) Oh SHIT i bet you have carbon monoxide . get it check out . That tee is probably running to an opn drain . WRONG and DANGEROUS.
The only thing I would have done differently is locate the AC about a foot or two away from the exhaust PVC and the corrosive flue gases. Even so, the exiting flue vent temperature is likely to be about 100 degrees F on a 90+% efficiency gas furnace. No danger of overheating the capacitor in the AC, especially when you consider that the AC will not be running when the thermostat calls for heat.
Thanks for your comments. Some of the other comments have me concerned that it's just a matter of time before this whole thing goes bad. I think I'll take a piece of Plexiglas and place it between the vent and the a/c next winter to protect the a/c unit. I would think that would do the job.
I can nitpick almost ALL installations. I tried to be fair to the company that installed your system. They did really neat work and that tells me that they're very capable and qualified. Kudos to Southside.
All reputable contractors will correct installation 'issues'. They will be covered by your warranty. I have no doubt that Dan Wohlers will take care of you and put your mind at ease.
Exahust pipe too close to A/C ,will rust a/c cabinet screws the first year then it will get wors and wros every other year .
Dryer filter ( Blue can brazed on the liquid side of line set ) installed too close to outdoor unit ,that will cause the a/c to have high head pressure evantually .
Pros install dryer filters as close as possible to the indoor coil .
"Not to worry" = excuses like arm pits everyone has them and they all stinck
The installer is wrong ! I haver been a HVAC contractor for 20 years. The exhaust from the furnace is very corrosive.
It will eventually attack all the electrical connections in the control box. Will take about 3-5 years. You will then experience a very expensive service call. The capacitor will " blow up" from the overheated connection, or the coil contactor will fail. The exhaust ,at the very least ,needs to be higher than the unit.
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I too thought the same thing. I asked the installer and he said not to worry. I'll see how it does this fall season with leaves and go from there.
I'm not sure what to think about the exhaust vent being so close to the a/c. Maybe I'll give the owner of the company a call and see if he thinks that's a problem. You're the second person who has mentioned that to me. Thanks.
As a Ruud Top Contractor(not related to Wohlers) from the start of the program we would like to comment on these issues. The t in the combustion air is required by the manufacturer to prevent condensation from entering the furnace burner compartment. The venting should be supported every 4 feet to maintain 1/4" per foot pitch. The vent termination should not be behind the condenser unit, it will rust the unit out. The combustion inlet elbow is to be terminated horizontally as it is.
SouthsideHeating 11 months ago
So after a year has anything changed? Did they address any of the concerns?
deckardmech 1 year ago
Never addressed the permit issue. Average install at best. Moving your light and putting a return air grill over the hole?? wtf.
I would have to be 3 sheets to the wind to do an install like that.
dorkyjosh 1 year ago
here in NJ you would fail for the disconnect box being obstructed by the condensing unit. they require a 36 inch clearance.
kidhudi 1 year ago
Ive never seen a tee in the exhaust before what is it for and also shouldnt you have supports every 10 ft in that unfinished part to maintain your slope?
fawn8907 1 year ago
i think its funny how many vans and guys they have i can do these by myself in a day a long day but a day.
fawn8907 1 year ago
2:38 where the heck did they do to that exhaust. That tee is not only collecting the condensate...it's also venting exhaust to where ever they tied it into. THAT'S NOT GOOD. YOUR GONNA HAVE PROBLEMS!
kingmickdagod 1 year ago
LOL... Whats the point of the TEE (pvc) time ? (2:37 ) Oh SHIT i bet you have carbon monoxide . get it check out . That tee is probably running to an opn drain . WRONG and DANGEROUS.
samm01000 2 years ago
the venting is illegal.
simonkc 2 years ago
In what way?
onekgguy 2 years ago
WHAT the FUCK?
relimes 2 years ago
crappy install, those pipes or the ac have to be moved.
fetisov02 2 years ago
That was a VERY neat installation.
The only thing I would have done differently is locate the AC about a foot or two away from the exhaust PVC and the corrosive flue gases. Even so, the exiting flue vent temperature is likely to be about 100 degrees F on a 90+% efficiency gas furnace. No danger of overheating the capacitor in the AC, especially when you consider that the AC will not be running when the thermostat calls for heat.
Liquid line filter dryer location is fine.
PutSome5tankOnIt 3 years ago
Thanks for your comments. Some of the other comments have me concerned that it's just a matter of time before this whole thing goes bad. I think I'll take a piece of Plexiglas and place it between the vent and the a/c next winter to protect the a/c unit. I would think that would do the job.
onekgguy 3 years ago
I can nitpick almost ALL installations. I tried to be fair to the company that installed your system. They did really neat work and that tells me that they're very capable and qualified. Kudos to Southside.
All reputable contractors will correct installation 'issues'. They will be covered by your warranty. I have no doubt that Dan Wohlers will take care of you and put your mind at ease.
PutSome5tankOnIt 3 years ago
Exahust pipe too close to A/C ,will rust a/c cabinet screws the first year then it will get wors and wros every other year .
Dryer filter ( Blue can brazed on the liquid side of line set ) installed too close to outdoor unit ,that will cause the a/c to have high head pressure evantually .
Pros install dryer filters as close as possible to the indoor coil .
"Not to worry" = excuses like arm pits everyone has them and they all stinck
microbubblerr 3 years ago
The installer is wrong ! I haver been a HVAC contractor for 20 years. The exhaust from the furnace is very corrosive.
It will eventually attack all the electrical connections in the control box. Will take about 3-5 years. You will then experience a very expensive service call. The capacitor will " blow up" from the overheated connection, or the coil contactor will fail. The exhaust ,at the very least ,needs to be higher than the unit.
tomcatwilson 3 years ago
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hvacrdude1 3 years ago
A few things I want to point out.
-Intake vent should point downwards to keep rain/snow out of the system.
-Exhaust pipe is too close to the A/C.. The exhaust vaper will collect and freeze on the cold metal in the winter.
jay11j 3 years ago
I too thought the same thing. I asked the installer and he said not to worry. I'll see how it does this fall season with leaves and go from there.
I'm not sure what to think about the exhaust vent being so close to the a/c. Maybe I'll give the owner of the company a call and see if he thinks that's a problem. You're the second person who has mentioned that to me. Thanks.
onekgguy 3 years ago
You better ask them cause apparently the exhaust from the furnace, is really corrosive.
Did you get an inspection and permit?
celeronkevin 3 years ago