Get Ralph on Larry King Live! Send your viewers choice request to larrykingguests@cnn(DOT)com
If enough people request Ralph, the likelihood of him appearing will be high. Perhaps we could also persuade the LKL producers to host an unofficial one-on-one debate between Ralph and one of the major candidates or an advisor for one of the campaigns.
All it takes is a few seconds of your time. What have you got to lose? Even if you find the debate idea to be unrealistic, it doesn't hurt to try.
I'm an independent candidate for Congress who will be on the ballot with Ralph Nader in Pennsylvania's 16th district. Check out my website: johnmurphyforcongress . org and please request me as your friend on Youtube! I'm on Facebook, too, listed as "John A. Murphy."
wow is this what the Demublicans have come up with in their think tanks? oooh, let's go on youtube and post stupid sex spams, good job.. all that spam looked like it was the same person spending half a day flaunting their ignorance. marked as spam and moving on, forward! go nader '08!! if only everyone would vote for ralph whether in protest or support, it'd be interesting to see how the powers that be countered an uprising by the people...
i live in oklahoma and most likely will not be able to vote for nader :( my question is what do i do? what do i tell other people i convince when the option i'm offering isn't there? "Oklahoma was the ONLY state limited to just two choices for president in 2004." and "Oklahoma is one of only FIVE states that do NOT allow write-ins." these are 2 of 10 REASONS why Oklahoma's ballot access laws are broken...
damn, thats not cool...I'm sorry 2 hear about that--and pissed off too. I wish there was something to do about that, anyhow, don't give up Nader's a man worth fighting for, I'm sure something will turn out :)
The number one teen killer could be eliminated with the swipe of a pen.
Transportation is an industry that needs to be eliminated, but the pen isn't going to do it. Seat belts didn't stop this industry.
I like Mr. Nader very much. I will vote for him more than likely next election. I just wish he would sprout some horns and grow some fangs when it comes to what is truthfully being done to people in this world.
If our representatives cannot bring themselves to honor their oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution as their first responsibility, if the press refuses to call this treasonous betrayal to the attention of the voters, who seem unconcerned about what they do not understand -- what action will enlighten a sufficient number of citizens to apply the pressure necessary to move Press and Politician to principled action?
How will the men who led us into a tragic and foolish adventure in Iraq, who failed to care for the victims of hurricane Katrina, who illegally spy upon us, who vindictively expose undercover intelligence agents, who politically dismiss attorneys in the Justice Department, who claim the right to torture, kidnap, and deny the ancient right of habeas corpus -- how will these men be called to account?
The press seems to be stifled in their pocket as well.
What recourse have I as a citizen if my efforts and the efforts of tens of thousands of my fellow citizens who share the outrage at the abuses of the Constitution committed by the Bush administration cannot move our Representatives in the Congress to undertake investigations into the many credible allegations of impeachable offense?
The amazing lack of response from our elected officials to our call for impeachment hearings suggests it might be due in part to the flaccid ignorance of the majority of our citizens. 98% of citizens have no idea about what the Constitution does for them and what they have lost due to the actions of the Bush/Cheney regime. The politicos stand to benefit from Bush/Cheney's expansion of Presidential powers, as do the corporate funders of the electoral process.
I really dont understand how so many americans can dismiss this hero. He is truly a wonderful politican and a fine statesman. The worl would be a better place if Ralph Nader was to become president.
Raplph Nader is the most honest man to step into the dishonest system of our government. He's not a corporate Democrat, or a corrupt Republican. He's a free thinker who wants whats best for his/our country. Give em' hell Ralph. You got a lotta people who have your back.
Amen doctorkimberly. Ralph Nader has done for the people in this country than any of our bonehead politicians, yet the majority of people don't even know it. Thank goodnes that i can come on the internet and find people who share my views on Ralph. There has to be a way to sell his message.
Get signatures. Speak to whatever groups you belong to that endorsed obama. Have a beer party and show them the last part of the debates when obama couldn't remember his name and he stammered all over the place. Lets endorse Ralph!
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It's tempting as Nader probably would do something about Americas "no-justice system". And I do support Nader's protest against the two party system. But right now we need somebody who will deal with the economy, gas prices and ban Christopher Nolan movies. Seriously, he killed Batman. Not cool. But I simply don't think Nader is up for the challenge. Maybe if his running mate was Superman, but since that's not the case my support goes to Obama. Vote Obama '08!
Give them a run for there money! If the elections are always 49% - 51% we are happy. We will never again see a landslide. Well as long as we keep electronic voting machines. It was so close and the republicans keep coming up on top. Love that DieBold. The Media will not give Ralph any airtime they have too much to lose. Grassroots and the internet are the only way. Stop protesting it only helps commerce. Look at Nepal, they changed there government with a general strike. We can do the same.
do you really think a world with obama as pres of the usa would be the same as a world w mc cain? do you think we'd have gone to irak, destroyed american alliances worldwide, had gore been president and not bush. please don't write, 'you don't understand' because people have a different point of view than you. unless you are 100% sure of being right in 100% of your opinions. in obama's talk on race, he did, indeed blame the coroporate system. stay informed!!
What a shame, such ignorance in this u-tube world. All of you that blame Nader for the loss of the election in 2004, are complete idiots. Jump on a different bandwagon, one that really matters. You hear that on Fox news, and repeat it? Repeat this; Common Sense!! Use your brain, stop relying on Fox News as your resource for smearing Nader.
his candidacy was responsable for bush getting elected in 2000. and will be responsable if mccain is elected this year. is that what we want? 8 more years of humiliation and clownery in a public office. don't just think about abstract principles. think about the one million iraquis and 4000 americans dead. voting nader will be voting for mccain. the people who lost their spouses, children, parents, are not living in abstract ideals, but will have reperucussion for generations. your call!
You are an idiot...everyone with any sanity, knows it was hanging chads and Jed Bush that swung the election in Florida! Becides why is it that Demos always suppose that third party liberals would vote for their canidate if given no choice? Humm to me it was either Nader or Liza Simpson. Fact is two party system has been broken a long time.
Hey... I am totally ready to go Nader's way. What is up with the Democrats not giving Michigan and Florida a say in the Primary? 2000 Gore deserved the whitehouse... 2004 Kerry was the jackass that screwed it up... 2008 the DNC is pushing everyone away.
I will vote for NADER and spread his name everywhere. He is the only candidate that will clean up this mess both parties have gotten us into, by criminally prosecuting these thigs..reopen 911, investigate the USS LIBERTY, expose corporate pillaging of the sheeple that do nothing but complain about high gas prices..blame the crooks on wall street, oil costs about 40 cents per barrel and we are paying over 100.00$..he is not a slave to the crf and will legally prosecute and imprison them
italstal07 - Don't ya just hate that? Nader stands for all of these great things and it would really change this country if he could accomplish them. Sadly though, by spreading his name everywhere you will help McCain get elected who will actually do the exact opposite of what you are hoping to accomplish. Frustrating, eh?
What makes you think that people will vote democrat, plus votes are earned and if Nader earns peoples votes then he should receive them. Personally I'm sick of the democratic party and if Nader wasn't running for president I'd just stay home because whether or not a Dem or Repub wins doesn't matter because they're two sides of the same corporate coin anyway.
All three presidential candidates are CFR. Which means no matter who you vote for you're going to get the CFR. So,vote Nader. Forfreedom
kingkull, if you really believe that there is no difference between any of the candidates, then I say go for it! Don't vote...more power to you! (or less power, depending on how you look at it)! Sure, it makes no difference at all, so why bother? But do you really belive that they are all identical? I don't.
I do think that you are right about them both being two sides of the corporate coin, although I am less inclined to believe it about Obama. In the end, the result will still probably be the same since the democrats are such wuss's that they do not fight for anything to win.
You're still not getting it. All 3 candidates are members of the CFR. Go to the CFR website and see for yourself. It doesn't matter if Obama, Clinton or McCain wins because their agenda/objective will be what the CFR deems it will be. The CFR and the Fed Reserve are the real government in this country, and Obama, Clinton and McCain are apart of it. So in the end it is your vote that won't count because you're acquiescing with this broken system of government or should I say "Failed State"
You're still not getting it. All 3 candidates are members of the CFR. Go to the CFR website and see for yourself. It doesn't matter if Obama, Clinton or McCain wins because their agenda/objective will be what the CFR deems it will be. The CFR and the Fed Reserve are the real government in this country, and Obama, Clinton and McCain are apart of it. So in the end it is your vote that won't count because you're acquiescing with this broken system of government or should I say "Failed State"
You are right, in fact I just saw a list of about 12 candidates that are a member of the CFR. It is a good thing that you brought this to my attention because I was seriously considering voting in the next election. It is good to know that the country will be run exactly the same way regardless of who is elected. I didn't realize that every single decision on the War, economy, healthcare, taxes, supreme court appointments and EVERY single issue is simply handed down by the will of the CFR.
And that's why we should all support Nader. I think it's time to see what he's made of. If he turns out to be a flop at least we tried an alternative choice. I'm not saying that Nader doesn't have any faults, I'm just saying we should give him a chance. If not him then someone else who isn't in the Dem or Repub parties.
okay, kingkull, I would vote for him if it wasn't mathematically impossible for him to get elected, but it is. So now what? Look's like it is back to the CFR gang and since you believe that the outcome for any of the existing candidates will be exactly the same, I guess that it just makes sense not to vote at all.
David you're wrong. What you should be doing is galvanizing friends and family to vote for Nader. The more people that vote for him the better chance we have of scaring the living day lights out of the elite establishment that way they'll have to negotiate with us on our terms. There is strength in numbers and the more people in the right corner the better off we'll be.
KingKull, I am not sure if I see your point. If the candidates are irrelevant because the CFR is running the show, then what will scaring the candidates accomplish?
Besides, there might be strength in numbers, but support for Nader won't give you strenght in numbers since the number will be very small. This is not exactly his first election and each one has had fewer supporters than the last.
Look it's obvious that I'm not going to convince you to do the right thing, but your pessimism is precisely the reason why this country is in entropy. What you should be doing is promulgating Naders message to friends and family. The more people involved the better chance we'll have of shaking things up for the better. Pouting isn't going to fix anything. So do what you want, but in the end you like most misinformed, or apathetic individual will end tanking this country without a fight.
Sorry TYPO: I meant to write: But in the end you like most misinformed, or apathetic individuals will end up tanking this country without a fight, and guess what... we're all going to lose because of it, and this country will fall in the end because you and most Americans don't care enough about the outcome too make a impact/difference.
KingKull, I am not pessimistic at all. I am just following your argument all the way through which leads to not voting at all because it just doesn't matter since all 3 candidates are controlled by the CFR.
The way I see it, voting for Nader is a pretty apathetic act. It means that you would rather make a political statement than voting for a candidate who is on the ballot. It is a protest vote.
KingKull, One big problem with Nader is that even if you start off with "He is Perfect, I hope he gets elected! I am going to vote for him". The next thought is "he doesn't have enough support to win the election..by far", once you start thinking about how he can actually get into office, where he can make a difference.
So is the "Right Thing" to vote for him even though you know he can't win? How will that shake things up for the better? Is that really the same as even being in the fight?
Remember Ross Perot's 1992 presidential run? He won 14% of the vote in a 3 man race. Look David the bottom line is the American people have the power to change things for the better if only they would take responsibility insofar as controlling their own destiny. The problem with you is that you've given up. Sure you're right Nader can't win, but letting the CFR continue to control the White House and the USA without a fight is utter ambiguity. Like I said do what you want but it's people like
you that are letting the next generation down, and leaving them without the American experience/dream. A few people can grow into many if we all band together. I've nothing else to say if you can't figure it out now you never will and America as we know it will indeed die.
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KingKull, you are an idiot. You are supporting a guy who, even you realize, has no chance of winning. If he can't win, he can't make change. Yet you are lecturing me on how I am not doing anything to make change and I will destroy the country.
What you are describing as a formula for change leads to essentially doing nothing and then hoping for change. It looks to me as though you are not a very clear thinker. Good luck with that.
I feel sorry for you dude. I've said all I could say. And believe me I wasn't trying to lecture to you. I was just stating a fact. There comes a time when you have to fight for what you believe in and you're not willing to do that because you obviously don't believe in the ideas/principles of this great nation that is now being usurped before our very eyes.
so don't vote, don't do anything just lay there like a beaten dog.
even with Nader running gore still won the popular vote, and yet the elitist system we live in did not allow him into office. this is exactly the kind of problem that Nader would address, bring democracy to the people. not the corprite elite who keep us enslaved to their private agenda. and btw an exit poll conducted after the election in Florida showed that only 58 percent of the people who voted for Nader would have voted for gore. Vote Nader 08
You have gotten us in for the last 2 elections and we thank you from the bottom of our hearts for helping us in 09. Without you, the democrats would have the majority and we wouldn't stand a chance. Thanks cowboy, John M.
jgtimewarp, I am supporting my dog, Gizmo, for the '08 election. I am entitled to run him, right? Gizmo is running on the ticket of more Bacon Strips for everybody!!! As much as I think he would do a better job than any of the existing candidates, I am afraid that he has the same probabilitiy as Nader does. I would rather support him than any of the presidential candidates. Does this mean that I am involved in the selection of our president? I am supporting a candidate, after all....right?
David, sweetheart, you took a couple of weeks off to come up with the Gizmo argument? Really... I did notice that you have no defense for the fact that Gore DID lose Tennessee on his own. You just blame Nader on other states. There's a novel argument from David the Brain. Back to the drawing board...quickly, quickly!!!
dviesq, there is not enough room here to list all of the reasons that he lost his own state. Losing your own state is a statement all on it's own. But the Nader folks keep making the argument that Nader had nothing to do with the election going to Bush. It is like sticking your foot out and tripping somebody at the finish line of a marathon where two runners are neck and neck and saying, it is not my fault, he should have run faster. I had nothing to do with it!!
Has anyone even considered that the Democrats really need to WORK AT WINNING the votes away from Ralph Nader? I'm tired of hearing how he "stole" the election. Give me a break. Ralph Nader represents those of us voters who would otherwise not be voting in the election rather than choosing the "Anyone but *insert name here*" attitude. Maybe we should all read more instead of following the herd to the slaughterhouse. Read what Ralph Nader really represents. He makes more sense than these bums!
I see, Lubbaducky, you shine some light on things. So you give yourself two basically equal option, do not vote or vote for Nader. I guess that it doesn't matter if nader loses anyway because you would just go with option b and not vote. It makes alot of sense and really does explain alot about the Nader mindset. Nader is the equivalent of not voting, but just getting a chance to vent as an added bonus.
No. I would vote for a Damnocrat or a Repugnican if they made sense and were not corporate-driven. Given the options, however, I would rather vote for Nader and, as you would say, "waste my vote" instead of following the brainwashed masses. And, last I checked, we were all free in this country to do and say and vote as we please without being condemned for it. I still like to exercise my powers of thinking rather than having people think for me.
dviesq, FWIW, just like Ralph Nader, the first thing that he's going to do when he becomes president is Impeach Bush/Cheney. See they have alot in common after all!
I keep telling him that they will no longer be in office, but he fires back with... It is my right!!! Can't argue with that!
Vote Gizmo '08!
I also explained that dogs can't hold office, but he says that he'll just change the system and maybe the entire system will just magically be different between now and the election.
jgtimewarp. You commented that Al Gore lost Tennessee on his own. "On his own" is a necessary qualifier, isn't it? It helps to distinguish it from states where he lost thanks to your spoiler candidate. An example would sound like "Al Gore lost Florida...because of Ralph Nader". So, be sure to add that qualifier to all of the states you talk about when you try to justify to yourself that Ralph Nader did not have a direct cause on electing the guy who represents everything he is against.
David, the Brain. I've already rebutted your "necessary qualifier" a while back. Pay attention, take notes, and don't bother me with broken record postings. Much obliged.
dviesq, you crack me up. Let's have the greatest hits of dviesq:
"Gore Lost his own state"
"Don't Blame others"
"Take control of yours own actions"
You either repeat these same arguments over an over (not just to me) or just dismiss the other person's point completely. And YOU are the one accusing me of being a broken record? :) I don't think that any of the other folks in this thread bought into it. It begs the question, are you trying to connvice everybody here or just yourself?
If anything, he is entering early. The Democratic primary process is still going on. Ralph is not running in a primary, and it is hard to raise enough money to run year long campaigns when he is so hated by people listening to the mainstream media. Ralph's candidacy brings new views to the forefront and challenges the current candidates to address them. Telling a third party candidate not to run is telling America to not be a democracy. Not everyone is red or blue, please accept that. Thank you.
I'm a huge Ralph Nader fan, but I find this video detrimental to his cause. No offense to anyone, but the goofy narration and silly music do not reflect the seriousness of Ralph Nader's message.
We need more clips of Mr. Nader speaking and debating. His words are his most powerful weapon.
U TO HONESY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY LIKE LIER CROOK SCANDAL POLITICS thats why we got screw but most people dumb sucker ..even clintons to many scandal NO HONORS INTEGRITY sold out pardon sold out our worker to china people still TRUST them...
1. There ARE distinctions between the Democrats and the Republicans. Translation: We, Democrats, take your vote for granted and EXPECT it, so be good subjects and comply so that we can win;
2. Voting for Nader is throwing your vote away. Translation: You are one of a minority so small as to be ignored and laughed at.
dviesq, let me help you with your math. Your confusion is caused by not tranlsating the second point correctly and that is why things don't add up for you. The second point should be translated to "You are one of a minority that is far too small to elect the person that you are supporting, but just big enough to potentially help the guy who stands in complete opposition to you." If you need furter clarity on that second point, It was demonstrated perfectly in the 2000 election.
David, first I would like to thank you for your generosity in taking time to bring me out of my confusion. Further, I would like to point out to you that Gore in 2000 did not lose by the few votes that went to Nader, but by the MANY votes he failed to earn by running a lousy, moronic campaign that even lost him his own state. You, my dear friend, are counting the wrong votes in the "not won" column. God's speed!
the problem with the logic that Nader spoiled the election for Gore is that Gore did not stand up for the issues that Nader was campaigning on, for me it is Nader or nobody on election day, Nader a true patriot doesn't steal my vote from any professional politician.
Lazy, your problem and confusion stems from the fact that you don't understand that your vote does not belong to you, it belongs to the Democratic Nominee. So, get with the program, stop thinking for yourself, and don't expect the Democratic nominee to address your concerns. Vote Democrat!
LazyHippi, you just made a perfect argument for why the "votes not won" argument is flawed. You are saying that Gore would have won more votes if he stood up for the issues that Nader stood up for. Well, Nader got roughly 4 percent in one election and 0.3 percent in the next. If those issues are so relevant to winning an election, why isn't he president?
David:. "If those issues are so relevant to winning an election..."
the issues relevant to winning an election seems to be simply who is favored by CNN two years ago when the headl;ines were already focused on Obama and Hillary, who is favored by the Des Moines Register and other debate sponsors when Dennis Kucinich is locked out.
who is nominating our candidates? what are THEIR priorities?
Why are you blaming Nader, what was so good about Gore or Kerry or Obama?
LazyHippi, you are missing the point. It is not that any of those candidates are great (or even good for that matter), it is that come election time, they ecah had enough support to be elected. If a candidate showed up today that represented every single issue of mine perfectly, I would not vote for him if he had 0.03 percent support. It would be a shame for me, but it would still be throwing my vote away. I can make political statements in other ways and not waste my vote doing it.
dviesq, you are right once again, it is not a matter of missing the point. So, let me ask you.... Do you think that Nader can get elected in the 2008 election?
Of course Nader CAN get elected. Will he? in all probability NO, i don't think any one is delusional about that. What matters is that there is very little difference between the mainstream Dems and Republicans in terms of economic policy. They have a monopoly on our government, we must not silence ourselves in the name of the lesser of two evils. If they want my vote they will speak to me as a respectable human being rather than with their crafty political slogans.
neither Obama or Clinton have really laid it out there on how disgusting the politics leading to the invasion of Iraq were, criminal in fact. Nor do they acknowledge U.S atrocities and vow to discontinue such behavior, Ralph Nader is the ONLY mainstream candidate whom i am able to support, Obama disgusts me.Kerry was un electable, so phony and his manner of speaking was to complicated.and Gore talked like a robot and made out on stage?not to mention the lack of muster*in their platformsVOTENADER
So, shouldn't you guys focus your time on Ballot and campaign reform laws prior to the election? Think of all of the resources you are investing in his campaign. Why not invest those resources in campaign reform or in any of the slew of other issues you mentioned? Think of what you could actualy accomplish compared to supporting a candidate that you know can't get elected. You could make an actually difference like Nader used to be able to when he focused on specific issues.
the idea is to reach people and draw attention to the issues, a presidential campaign attracts attention, If Ralph is allowed to the debate then he can ask some tough questions of out corporate candidates, the Nader candidacy is for and by all the people who are working behind the scenes on said issues, i enjoy the privelage of voting, i'm glad that Ralph runs so that i CAN vote for someone who i actually believe will work for democracy.
I realize that it is easier said than done, but unless you make some real campaign reform well before the election, you are just spinning your wheels and you will be doing the same thing in each election. It needs to be done well before this point in the game. This is the 3rd election and I am surprised that Ralph Nader has not been able to accomplish enough to make a difference. If you do, you may one day have a candidate that can compete, not just make you feel good about making a statement.
Wow, his 5th run?!?!? Sounds like a good case that it can't be changed if Ralph Nader has spent 20 years trying. Geez, the man made miracles back in the day. What happened?
Ralph did alot in organizing political action groups, he has quite a work ethic and in the beginning he sort of rode the wave of Auto Safety, he wnt straight to the forefrunt against GM and gained national fame,
Essential to a movement is building public support, that's what ralph is now doing for the issues you hear him speaking about. A presidential campaign is an effective way to reach the public, Nader is CONSTANTLY working on ballot access among other projects...
On the big issues we are up against the big dogs. every time Ralph is on T.V or in the paper, somebody is exposed to critical ideas and they might think....
Well, I would probably be a buzzkill on the Road Trip. I would be the equivalent of the guy in the back seat who keeps telling the drive "Hey, you are going the wrong way!" and would eventually be thrown out of the car.
Although on one level I can appreciate what you guys are doing and it probably is alot of fun if you are into it, I still consider it to be throwing your vote away. I hope that you have success at eventually changing the system.
I live in Washington State so it will be easy to get Ralph on the ballot here, but if you're payin for gas let's go get some signatures!!
p.s is it okay for me to practice articulating my argument and practice typing here? and shouldn't someone defend against unjust accusations and absurd perspectives?
dviesq, you are right, you guys taught the Gore campaign a valuable lesson. If you don't run a campaign that wins in a landslide, we will make sure you don't win at all. That will show you!
So, now that you taught Gore a lesson for not winning more votes, do you like the outcome?
David. *I* didn't teach Gore a lesson. That he learned a lesson, he's better for it and it's his business. You continue to display this egocentric belief that voting for anyone other than Gore was about Gore. The center of the Solar System is the Sun; not Gore. He lost because HE blew it. A lot more independents voted for Bush than for Nader, when Gore was in the perfect position to capture their votes.
dviesq, I don't know how to tell you this, but at some point in the electoral process, you will end up with one of two candidates that WILL become president. As much as you would like to pretend otherwise, it doesn't make it the case. I may have been a Weird Al Yankevic fan in 2000 and hoped that he became president, but if I voted for Gore instead of Weird Al, it doesn't mean that I believed that Gore was the center of the Solar System, it means that if I didn't, I helped Bush win.
David, SHOULD Hillary come back and win the nomination, I can already see you (as an Obama supporter) argue that it was because Republicans voted for her in Primaries like Texas. Is it fun to see yourself as a victim? I reject the arrogance of ANYONE assuming they are entitled to my vote. Gore's own arrogance did him in, NOT my vote.
dviesq, If I am understanding it correctly, you are telling me how you think I will feel in a situation that has not happened yet or may never happen? What does that have to do with ANYTHING discussed here?
Regarding your comment, "Is it fun to see yourself as a victim?", All I can say is....WTF!?!?!? You can discuss being a victim when you see your therapist today, but not with me.
Ah, I get it, you are out of material and desperately want to change the subject.
David, now you're ranting aimlessly. Seeing yourself as a victim is squarely on point. You see yourself as a victim of Nader's supporters who voted for him rather than Gore. You blame the 2000 election outcome on Nader, not Gore's own incompetence.
David, you want to hold on to your (self)righteous indignation the way a toddler holds on to his tantrum. Suit yourself :) I have to get ready for work. Have a great day and I thank you for your interest in Ralph Nader and this forum.
David, taking responsibility for one's failures, rather than blaming others, is very EMPOWERING. So is letting go of anger. Democrats should consider. Still throwing a tantrum about 2000 will NOT help them win in the fall.
dviesq, great advice. Now, why don't you start by taking your own advice. You, along with any other Nader supporter, seem to have a number of reasons explaining why Nader had nothing to do with the election results of 2000. Why don't you take responsibility for Bush being elected? It is very EMPOWERING, you know.
David, my ego isn't big enough, nor am I delusional enough, to take credit for something I didn't do. As a parent, I know a toddler throws a tantrum; you offer him this toy, that toy, this treat, that treat. He categorically rejects each one! Then, it dawns on you: it feels good to him to be throwing the tantrum and he is not interested in having it taken away from him.
dviesq, you are not giving yourself enough credit, you certainly are delusional enough.
Regarding a temper tantrum, that could be the only explanation, right? It couldn't be that you arguments seem to contradictory and void of reasoning.
Now you may not be angry, but remember, the little old lady who sees the car crashes in her rear view mirror is never upset, she just wonders "How did that happen?" It is only the people who she ran off the road that are upset.
nader is a voice of conscience,and that is why he will become no president or even a congressman....people want a monger,a preacher,an enternainer or even a dumb teddy bear when they are afraid(till today) bin laden is the scare of the united states of america.
so many today are in enmity with faintest voice of conscience..so they would love it to shut up,so that they can feel great about themselves....and let the slums dwellers go to hell....
These charitable republican funded organizations put food on Nader's table. .org means tax free with minimal oversight. The republicans like Nader. They give Nader money and then he funnels that money into a book tour. He comes out ahead. I wish I could say the same thing for the American people. Nader is corporate. plain and simple. He wants to be president and change washington? Well I want to inhabit mars so I can expose NASA's corporate greed.The odds are the same. Nader is a money funneler.
Of course they have that right, and I think Ralph would agree.
Research into what any candidate says. With candidates like Ralph and Mike, you'll find that they're always honest, but you should still research them anyway.
Google Naders corporate stock portfolio. Haliburton,Shell Oil,and many other bib big corporate oil companies. That is where your donations go. Nader does not practice what he preaches. I just gave Hillary twenty dollars today.
Actually its all in Mutual Funds. He doesn't own any direct stock, only through mututal and EFTS. It's illegal for a person like Nader to own Direct Stock for the reason you are accusing him of.
Every body is the same. Nazis, Clinton, Obama, Terrorists, Republicans. That is what Nader is saying. He put's everybody but himself in one group. Buy his book. That is what he wants. Look at his wikipedia at his stock portfolio. Use your minds. Nader is really the American Nightmare of today. He does business with Haliburton. Please Wake up!
You're right, dan. What was I thinking to consider voting for an establishment candidate like Nader when I can vote for the people's candidates like Obama, Hillary and McCain.
If you will not vote Obama or McCain, I invite you to learn about Nader and what he stands for. Vote for Nader. If not, vote for the third party candidate of your choice. But, send a message that the Republican/Democratic block does NOT speak for everyone. Let's grow together so that we can be heard!
With no disrespect to him, what qualifications does he have to be the president (in case something happened to Nader). Although I will not vote for Nader, I am confident that he could handle being president even in the post 911 era.
Nader is running so you will buy his book, not because really gives a shit about the state of this country. Who manufactured his book? A corporation. What an asshole.
NADER FOR PRESIDENT 2008 1st PUBLIC ADDRESS BY RALPH NADER AND HIS 2008 VICE PRESIDENTIAL RUNNING MATE - THURS, FEBRUARY 28, 2008 - 6:00pm Doors Open, 6:30pm Start -Harry Harding Auditorium (Room 213), Elliott School of Int'l Affairs - George Washington University -1957 E Street NW) Admission: $2 at the door Following the foreign policy remarks by Ralph Nader and his Vice Pres. running mate, there will be a Q&A and book signing.
Ten times as many registered dems voted republican then green and on top of the gore won the popular vote. You would think the dems would go after the real problem instead of some little party. And by pushing Gore to be more progressive he got gore more votes. The lawsuit is because in 2004 the democrats hired lawyers to get Nader of the Ballots. this is called voter suppression.
Tell me, have the dems done any of that stuff they promised to do when they got elected? Both parties are the same.
Ten times as many registered dems voted republican then green and on top of the gore won the popular vote. You would think the dems would go after the real problem instead of some little party. And by pushing Gore to be more progressive he got gore more votes. The lawsuit is because in 2004 the democrats hired lawyers to get Nader of the Ballots. this is called voter suppression.
Tell me, have the dems done any of that stuff they promised to do when they got elected? Both parties are the same.
Ralph, the YouTube posts made a difference on the WGA strike. It would have been better if the strike leaders could comment, but the public forum was unprecedented despite their media blackout.
You or your staff's direct feedback to comments (positive and negative) would be groundbreaking and could make a significant difference in the election.
ALOHA from MAUI: good luck to ralph and HAU'OLI LA HANAU/HAPPY BIRTHDAY; he is one of amerika's, and the world's, true heroes; i was a delegate from hawai'i at both the 1996 and 2000 green party conventions; if on the ballot, i will vote for ralph; he was not able to get on the ballot in 2004 here in hawai'i, which is 1 of only 5 states which does not allow write-in voting; the rules are stacked against a 3rd party, so the chances of winning are nil; however, he brings up issues no one else does
Aloha! Yes, we missed being on the ballot in Hawai'i by 39 signatures! Many young people are not registered to vote, so that's the first step. Maloha!
Third party canidates get the shaft in our so called Democracy... I think that is why Ron Paul is opting to stay as a republican though his is both a republican and libertarian.... Either Ralph, Dr. Paul or Mike Gravel would be great for our country...
cool. all the right positions on the issues. but you won't win. so effectively anyone who joins your push is waisting their time. the people of this country are to stupid to vote for anything that will actually benefit them. maybe Ralph should convert to some stupid christian bullshit. then people would actually vote for him. no van a hacer nada.
the truth must be spoken and a presidential campaign is an honorable action. If DK or MG were winning primaries i doubt Ralph would run against them, but as it is we have no viable candidate. Ralph! Lo necesitamos.
Hawai'i checking in, more militarized than ever. Some say the forces against us are too many and too powerful. I say to them, go home and hide from this fight. You have no stomach for Democracy. I will vote for Mr. Nader and together we will restore this Democracy without you military-industrial collaborators. If you will not fight to restore the Constitution, you should flee to your international elitist plantations where you belong among your ilk: the faithless, the defeatists and the greedy.
You COULD do both! We would be happy to have Mike's fans help. We also welcome supporters of Dennis Kucinch. We have a large platform of issues that the major parties will not address. We know that not everyone will agree with all of them, but we are happy to collaborate.
Although Ralph has a different platform than the Reform Party on many, many issues, we worked with them, and the Libertarian Party, in 2004 on ballot access. Please stay in touch with us at VoteNader dot org.
Cool. I am signed up on the mailing list. I am waiting to hear how Mike will go about a third party run. I am hoping this will be the summer of the independent.
While I like Nader, him entering slightly lowers Obama's chances because he'll steal some votes from Barack. I can't see that as a good thing, but Barack should still win comfortably over McCain.
NADER/Gonzalez = WE the PEOPLE
Democrats and Republicans = THEY the CORPORATIONS
* They're blocking him from debating because they're quite scared!
* "Spoiler" is a politically bigoted word used by the opposing
parties to keep the independents out of the race.
* The two headed Democrat and Republican monster is not
to be trusted as they've proven over and over!
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blackcatsoda 3 years ago
Get Ralph on Larry King Live! Send your viewers choice request to larrykingguests@cnn(DOT)com
If enough people request Ralph, the likelihood of him appearing will be high. Perhaps we could also persuade the LKL producers to host an unofficial one-on-one debate between Ralph and one of the major candidates or an advisor for one of the campaigns.
All it takes is a few seconds of your time. What have you got to lose? Even if you find the debate idea to be unrealistic, it doesn't hurt to try.
italianmafia23 3 years ago
I talked to Mark this morning, and I should be heading on the road trip to collect signatures in about a week! :D
We need more road trippers! Sign up if you can :)
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nadermatrixs 3 years ago
Go Ralph!!! :)
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1CosmeticSurgery 3 years ago
wow is this what the Demublicans have come up with in their think tanks? oooh, let's go on youtube and post stupid sex spams, good job.. all that spam looked like it was the same person spending half a day flaunting their ignorance. marked as spam and moving on, forward! go nader '08!! if only everyone would vote for ralph whether in protest or support, it'd be interesting to see how the powers that be countered an uprising by the people...
relgstorm 3 years ago
i live in oklahoma and most likely will not be able to vote for nader :( my question is what do i do? what do i tell other people i convince when the option i'm offering isn't there? "Oklahoma was the ONLY state limited to just two choices for president in 2004." and "Oklahoma is one of only FIVE states that do NOT allow write-ins." these are 2 of 10 REASONS why Oklahoma's ballot access laws are broken...
relgstorm 3 years ago
quotes from OBAR Oklahoma Ballot Access Reform website
relgstorm 3 years ago
damn, thats not cool...I'm sorry 2 hear about that--and pissed off too. I wish there was something to do about that, anyhow, don't give up Nader's a man worth fighting for, I'm sure something will turn out :)
loopyloupe 3 years ago
The number one teen killer could be eliminated with the swipe of a pen.
Transportation is an industry that needs to be eliminated, but the pen isn't going to do it. Seat belts didn't stop this industry.
I like Mr. Nader very much. I will vote for him more than likely next election. I just wish he would sprout some horns and grow some fangs when it comes to what is truthfully being done to people in this world.
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Hey Ralph, thanks SO much for running again, with you in the race I'm guaranteed to win this one just like you did for George W.
Psssst -- don't tell anyone the GOP is funding you! We wouldn't want anyone to get the wrong, er, right impression.
JohnMcClone 3 years ago
If our representatives cannot bring themselves to honor their oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution as their first responsibility, if the press refuses to call this treasonous betrayal to the attention of the voters, who seem unconcerned about what they do not understand -- what action will enlighten a sufficient number of citizens to apply the pressure necessary to move Press and Politician to principled action?
WillyboyAt72 3 years ago 2
How will the men who led us into a tragic and foolish adventure in Iraq, who failed to care for the victims of hurricane Katrina, who illegally spy upon us, who vindictively expose undercover intelligence agents, who politically dismiss attorneys in the Justice Department, who claim the right to torture, kidnap, and deny the ancient right of habeas corpus -- how will these men be called to account?
WillyboyAt72 3 years ago
The press seems to be stifled in their pocket as well.
What recourse have I as a citizen if my efforts and the efforts of tens of thousands of my fellow citizens who share the outrage at the abuses of the Constitution committed by the Bush administration cannot move our Representatives in the Congress to undertake investigations into the many credible allegations of impeachable offense?
WillyboyAt72 3 years ago
The amazing lack of response from our elected officials to our call for impeachment hearings suggests it might be due in part to the flaccid ignorance of the majority of our citizens. 98% of citizens have no idea about what the Constitution does for them and what they have lost due to the actions of the Bush/Cheney regime. The politicos stand to benefit from Bush/Cheney's expansion of Presidential powers, as do the corporate funders of the electoral process.
WillyboyAt72 3 years ago
"They SAY a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush.
So, uh, who do I vote for if I wanna vote for Nader?" - David Letterman
abookamongstthemany 3 years ago 2
I really dont understand how so many americans can dismiss this hero. He is truly a wonderful politican and a fine statesman. The worl would be a better place if Ralph Nader was to become president.
leefost 3 years ago 6
Raplph Nader is the most honest man to step into the dishonest system of our government. He's not a corporate Democrat, or a corrupt Republican. He's a free thinker who wants whats best for his/our country. Give em' hell Ralph. You got a lotta people who have your back.
doctorkimberly 3 years ago 7
Amen doctorkimberly. Ralph Nader has done for the people in this country than any of our bonehead politicians, yet the majority of people don't even know it. Thank goodnes that i can come on the internet and find people who share my views on Ralph. There has to be a way to sell his message.
sandyg1955 3 years ago 2
YEAAAAAAHHHH RALPH!!!
Get signatures. Speak to whatever groups you belong to that endorsed obama. Have a beer party and show them the last part of the debates when obama couldn't remember his name and he stammered all over the place. Lets endorse Ralph!
You can help!!!
blackcatsoda 3 years ago
I LOVE YOU RALPH!!!!!!!!!
annnewarrren 3 years ago
Isn't he a little late to get in the race?
We already have a good candidate who might have Ralph as VP
Lkyda 3 years ago
Who would that be?
votenader08 3 years ago
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It's tempting as Nader probably would do something about Americas "no-justice system". And I do support Nader's protest against the two party system. But right now we need somebody who will deal with the economy, gas prices and ban Christopher Nolan movies. Seriously, he killed Batman. Not cool. But I simply don't think Nader is up for the challenge. Maybe if his running mate was Superman, but since that's not the case my support goes to Obama. Vote Obama '08!
JDGawell 3 years ago
Give them a run for there money! If the elections are always 49% - 51% we are happy. We will never again see a landslide. Well as long as we keep electronic voting machines. It was so close and the republicans keep coming up on top. Love that DieBold. The Media will not give Ralph any airtime they have too much to lose. Grassroots and the internet are the only way. Stop protesting it only helps commerce. Look at Nepal, they changed there government with a general strike. We can do the same.
FlowerClown 3 years ago 3
Obama and Clinton are such spoilers. If they would just drop out we would have a great president, Ralph Nader.
Nader can beat McCain, but can Clinton or Obama? I doubt it!
nowellian 3 years ago 4
this video is embarrassing.
sistermaryelaine 3 years ago
do you really think a world with obama as pres of the usa would be the same as a world w mc cain? do you think we'd have gone to irak, destroyed american alliances worldwide, had gore been president and not bush. please don't write, 'you don't understand' because people have a different point of view than you. unless you are 100% sure of being right in 100% of your opinions. in obama's talk on race, he did, indeed blame the coroporate system. stay informed!!
jallenfrance 3 years ago
What a shame, such ignorance in this u-tube world. All of you that blame Nader for the loss of the election in 2004, are complete idiots. Jump on a different bandwagon, one that really matters. You hear that on Fox news, and repeat it? Repeat this; Common Sense!! Use your brain, stop relying on Fox News as your resource for smearing Nader.
THOSE VOTES WOULD
kristamckenna 3 years ago
Obama and Clinton are such spoilers. If they would just drop out we would have a great president, Ralph Nader!
Nader can beat McCain, but can Clinton or Obama?
I am very serious about this. I am afraid the democrats will loose again and I wish they would let Nader have a chance!
nowellian 3 years ago 2
I couldn't have said it better myself.
kingkull0423 3 years ago 2
his candidacy was responsable for bush getting elected in 2000. and will be responsable if mccain is elected this year. is that what we want? 8 more years of humiliation and clownery in a public office. don't just think about abstract principles. think about the one million iraquis and 4000 americans dead. voting nader will be voting for mccain. the people who lost their spouses, children, parents, are not living in abstract ideals, but will have reperucussion for generations. your call!
jallenfrance 3 years ago
You are an idiot...everyone with any sanity, knows it was hanging chads and Jed Bush that swung the election in Florida! Becides why is it that Demos always suppose that third party liberals would vote for their canidate if given no choice? Humm to me it was either Nader or Liza Simpson. Fact is two party system has been broken a long time.
Foxfairy5 3 years ago
Hey... I am totally ready to go Nader's way. What is up with the Democrats not giving Michigan and Florida a say in the Primary? 2000 Gore deserved the whitehouse... 2004 Kerry was the jackass that screwed it up... 2008 the DNC is pushing everyone away.
Nader 2008
jwhat84 3 years ago
I will vote for NADER and spread his name everywhere. He is the only candidate that will clean up this mess both parties have gotten us into, by criminally prosecuting these thigs..reopen 911, investigate the USS LIBERTY, expose corporate pillaging of the sheeple that do nothing but complain about high gas prices..blame the crooks on wall street, oil costs about 40 cents per barrel and we are paying over 100.00$..he is not a slave to the crf and will legally prosecute and imprison them
italstal07 3 years ago 3
italstal07 - Don't ya just hate that? Nader stands for all of these great things and it would really change this country if he could accomplish them. Sadly though, by spreading his name everywhere you will help McCain get elected who will actually do the exact opposite of what you are hoping to accomplish. Frustrating, eh?
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
What makes you think that people will vote democrat, plus votes are earned and if Nader earns peoples votes then he should receive them. Personally I'm sick of the democratic party and if Nader wasn't running for president I'd just stay home because whether or not a Dem or Repub wins doesn't matter because they're two sides of the same corporate coin anyway.
All three presidential candidates are CFR. Which means no matter who you vote for you're going to get the CFR. So,vote Nader. Forfreedom
kingkull0423 3 years ago
kingkull, if you really believe that there is no difference between any of the candidates, then I say go for it! Don't vote...more power to you! (or less power, depending on how you look at it)! Sure, it makes no difference at all, so why bother? But do you really belive that they are all identical? I don't.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
I do think that you are right about them both being two sides of the corporate coin, although I am less inclined to believe it about Obama. In the end, the result will still probably be the same since the democrats are such wuss's that they do not fight for anything to win.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
You're still not getting it. All 3 candidates are members of the CFR. Go to the CFR website and see for yourself. It doesn't matter if Obama, Clinton or McCain wins because their agenda/objective will be what the CFR deems it will be. The CFR and the Fed Reserve are the real government in this country, and Obama, Clinton and McCain are apart of it. So in the end it is your vote that won't count because you're acquiescing with this broken system of government or should I say "Failed State"
kingkull0423 3 years ago
You're still not getting it. All 3 candidates are members of the CFR. Go to the CFR website and see for yourself. It doesn't matter if Obama, Clinton or McCain wins because their agenda/objective will be what the CFR deems it will be. The CFR and the Fed Reserve are the real government in this country, and Obama, Clinton and McCain are apart of it. So in the end it is your vote that won't count because you're acquiescing with this broken system of government or should I say "Failed State"
kingkull0423 3 years ago
You are right, in fact I just saw a list of about 12 candidates that are a member of the CFR. It is a good thing that you brought this to my attention because I was seriously considering voting in the next election. It is good to know that the country will be run exactly the same way regardless of who is elected. I didn't realize that every single decision on the War, economy, healthcare, taxes, supreme court appointments and EVERY single issue is simply handed down by the will of the CFR.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
And that's why we should all support Nader. I think it's time to see what he's made of. If he turns out to be a flop at least we tried an alternative choice. I'm not saying that Nader doesn't have any faults, I'm just saying we should give him a chance. If not him then someone else who isn't in the Dem or Repub parties.
kingkull0423 3 years ago 2
okay, kingkull, I would vote for him if it wasn't mathematically impossible for him to get elected, but it is. So now what? Look's like it is back to the CFR gang and since you believe that the outcome for any of the existing candidates will be exactly the same, I guess that it just makes sense not to vote at all.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
David you're wrong. What you should be doing is galvanizing friends and family to vote for Nader. The more people that vote for him the better chance we have of scaring the living day lights out of the elite establishment that way they'll have to negotiate with us on our terms. There is strength in numbers and the more people in the right corner the better off we'll be.
kingkull0423 3 years ago
KingKull, I am not sure if I see your point. If the candidates are irrelevant because the CFR is running the show, then what will scaring the candidates accomplish?
Besides, there might be strength in numbers, but support for Nader won't give you strenght in numbers since the number will be very small. This is not exactly his first election and each one has had fewer supporters than the last.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
Look it's obvious that I'm not going to convince you to do the right thing, but your pessimism is precisely the reason why this country is in entropy. What you should be doing is promulgating Naders message to friends and family. The more people involved the better chance we'll have of shaking things up for the better. Pouting isn't going to fix anything. So do what you want, but in the end you like most misinformed, or apathetic individual will end tanking this country without a fight.
kingkull0423 3 years ago
Sorry TYPO: I meant to write: But in the end you like most misinformed, or apathetic individuals will end up tanking this country without a fight, and guess what... we're all going to lose because of it, and this country will fall in the end because you and most Americans don't care enough about the outcome too make a impact/difference.
kingkull0423 3 years ago
KingKull, I am not pessimistic at all. I am just following your argument all the way through which leads to not voting at all because it just doesn't matter since all 3 candidates are controlled by the CFR.
The way I see it, voting for Nader is a pretty apathetic act. It means that you would rather make a political statement than voting for a candidate who is on the ballot. It is a protest vote.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
KingKull, One big problem with Nader is that even if you start off with "He is Perfect, I hope he gets elected! I am going to vote for him". The next thought is "he doesn't have enough support to win the election..by far", once you start thinking about how he can actually get into office, where he can make a difference.
So is the "Right Thing" to vote for him even though you know he can't win? How will that shake things up for the better? Is that really the same as even being in the fight?
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
Remember Ross Perot's 1992 presidential run? He won 14% of the vote in a 3 man race. Look David the bottom line is the American people have the power to change things for the better if only they would take responsibility insofar as controlling their own destiny. The problem with you is that you've given up. Sure you're right Nader can't win, but letting the CFR continue to control the White House and the USA without a fight is utter ambiguity. Like I said do what you want but it's people like
kingkull0423 3 years ago 3
you that are letting the next generation down, and leaving them without the American experience/dream. A few people can grow into many if we all band together. I've nothing else to say if you can't figure it out now you never will and America as we know it will indeed die.
"Power To The People"
kingkull0423 3 years ago 5
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KingKull, you are an idiot. You are supporting a guy who, even you realize, has no chance of winning. If he can't win, he can't make change. Yet you are lecturing me on how I am not doing anything to make change and I will destroy the country.
What you are describing as a formula for change leads to essentially doing nothing and then hoping for change. It looks to me as though you are not a very clear thinker. Good luck with that.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
I feel sorry for you dude. I've said all I could say. And believe me I wasn't trying to lecture to you. I was just stating a fact. There comes a time when you have to fight for what you believe in and you're not willing to do that because you obviously don't believe in the ideas/principles of this great nation that is now being usurped before our very eyes.
so don't vote, don't do anything just lay there like a beaten dog.
Have a nice day.
kingkull0423 3 years ago 7
even with Nader running gore still won the popular vote, and yet the elitist system we live in did not allow him into office. this is exactly the kind of problem that Nader would address, bring democracy to the people. not the corprite elite who keep us enslaved to their private agenda. and btw an exit poll conducted after the election in Florida showed that only 58 percent of the people who voted for Nader would have voted for gore. Vote Nader 08
jwronthevlad 3 years ago 2
People are supposed to vote for the BEST candidate. You are the one who is not thinking, much less clearly.
It is not supposed to be vote where everyone else is voting so my candidate wins. It is who is the BEST.
The BEST is Ralph Nader
D Silverlight, you are the idiot and the reason there is corruption in politics. Because of your predictable behavior.
god damn obama and the followers!
God Bless America
God Bless Hillary and Ralph!
blackcatsoda 3 years ago 3
Kingkull0423
Bravo!
Excellent!
Go Ralph!
blackcatsoda 3 years ago 4
To Democrats that are skeptical about Ralph Nader, let me simplify things for you.
Republicans = far right
Democrats = center right (with the exception of Kucinich)
Ralph Nader = left-wing and ready to clean up the mess that the self-righteous right has put us in.
SushiHead20 3 years ago 2
Thanks for laying it out. I agree.
clhSerenity 3 years ago
We love you Ralph. Than you!
You have gotten us in for the last 2 elections and we thank you from the bottom of our hearts for helping us in 09. Without you, the democrats would have the majority and we wouldn't stand a chance. Thanks cowboy, John M.
mailbrian 3 years ago
I love the way the democrats and the republicans feel they are the only ones entitled to run for anything.
The democrats lost because they can't be trusted.And by the way Al Gore lost Tennessee on his own. He couldn't carry the state that knew him best.
jgtimewarp 3 years ago
jgtimewarp, I am supporting my dog, Gizmo, for the '08 election. I am entitled to run him, right? Gizmo is running on the ticket of more Bacon Strips for everybody!!! As much as I think he would do a better job than any of the existing candidates, I am afraid that he has the same probabilitiy as Nader does. I would rather support him than any of the presidential candidates. Does this mean that I am involved in the selection of our president? I am supporting a candidate, after all....right?
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
David, sweetheart, you took a couple of weeks off to come up with the Gizmo argument? Really... I did notice that you have no defense for the fact that Gore DID lose Tennessee on his own. You just blame Nader on other states. There's a novel argument from David the Brain. Back to the drawing board...quickly, quickly!!!
dviesq 3 years ago 2
^for other states
dviesq 3 years ago 2
dviesq, there is not enough room here to list all of the reasons that he lost his own state. Losing your own state is a statement all on it's own. But the Nader folks keep making the argument that Nader had nothing to do with the election going to Bush. It is like sticking your foot out and tripping somebody at the finish line of a marathon where two runners are neck and neck and saying, it is not my fault, he should have run faster. I had nothing to do with it!!
Just own up to it, dviesq
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
Has anyone even considered that the Democrats really need to WORK AT WINNING the votes away from Ralph Nader? I'm tired of hearing how he "stole" the election. Give me a break. Ralph Nader represents those of us voters who would otherwise not be voting in the election rather than choosing the "Anyone but *insert name here*" attitude. Maybe we should all read more instead of following the herd to the slaughterhouse. Read what Ralph Nader really represents. He makes more sense than these bums!
Lubbaducky518 3 years ago 3
I see, Lubbaducky, you shine some light on things. So you give yourself two basically equal option, do not vote or vote for Nader. I guess that it doesn't matter if nader loses anyway because you would just go with option b and not vote. It makes alot of sense and really does explain alot about the Nader mindset. Nader is the equivalent of not voting, but just getting a chance to vent as an added bonus.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
No. I would vote for a Damnocrat or a Repugnican if they made sense and were not corporate-driven. Given the options, however, I would rather vote for Nader and, as you would say, "waste my vote" instead of following the brainwashed masses. And, last I checked, we were all free in this country to do and say and vote as we please without being condemned for it. I still like to exercise my powers of thinking rather than having people think for me.
Lubbaducky518 3 years ago 2
Besides, I thought that my Gizmo argument was pretty good. I almost sprained my arm patting myself on the back for that one.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
Exactly! Your feeling or evaluation of the Gizmo argument says it all. :)
dviesq 3 years ago 2
dviesq, FWIW, just like Ralph Nader, the first thing that he's going to do when he becomes president is Impeach Bush/Cheney. See they have alot in common after all!
I keep telling him that they will no longer be in office, but he fires back with... It is my right!!! Can't argue with that!
Vote Gizmo '08!
I also explained that dogs can't hold office, but he says that he'll just change the system and maybe the entire system will just magically be different between now and the election.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
jgtimewarp. You commented that Al Gore lost Tennessee on his own. "On his own" is a necessary qualifier, isn't it? It helps to distinguish it from states where he lost thanks to your spoiler candidate. An example would sound like "Al Gore lost Florida...because of Ralph Nader". So, be sure to add that qualifier to all of the states you talk about when you try to justify to yourself that Ralph Nader did not have a direct cause on electing the guy who represents everything he is against.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
David, the Brain. I've already rebutted your "necessary qualifier" a while back. Pay attention, take notes, and don't bother me with broken record postings. Much obliged.
dviesq 3 years ago 2
dviesq, you crack me up. Let's have the greatest hits of dviesq:
"Gore Lost his own state"
"Don't Blame others"
"Take control of yours own actions"
You either repeat these same arguments over an over (not just to me) or just dismiss the other person's point completely. And YOU are the one accusing me of being a broken record? :) I don't think that any of the other folks in this thread bought into it. It begs the question, are you trying to connvice everybody here or just yourself?
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
I love this video, we need more like it.
poeboy2 3 years ago 3
That was effin awesome! Nice job on that.
TrickyNickyJay 3 years ago 3
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This is worse then the College Road Trip.
butterquick 3 years ago
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Thanks for helping me get elected.
Did you get my contribution?
John McCain
gator915 3 years ago
Hah, Nader is cool, but my road trips in my channel are totally better. Check them out!
neil1337 3 years ago
If anything, he is entering early. The Democratic primary process is still going on. Ralph is not running in a primary, and it is hard to raise enough money to run year long campaigns when he is so hated by people listening to the mainstream media. Ralph's candidacy brings new views to the forefront and challenges the current candidates to address them. Telling a third party candidate not to run is telling America to not be a democracy. Not everyone is red or blue, please accept that. Thank you.
franklinstower35 3 years ago
I got accepted for the Road Trip!
New Mexico here I come!
Steeplerot 3 years ago 6
Welcome aboard! Many thanks.
votenader08 3 years ago
I'm a huge Ralph Nader fan, but I find this video detrimental to his cause. No offense to anyone, but the goofy narration and silly music do not reflect the seriousness of Ralph Nader's message.
We need more clips of Mr. Nader speaking and debating. His words are his most powerful weapon.
chatelet55 3 years ago
U TO HONESY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY LIKE LIER CROOK SCANDAL POLITICS thats why we got screw but most people dumb sucker ..even clintons to many scandal NO HONORS INTEGRITY sold out pardon sold out our worker to china people still TRUST them...
Notfreeloader 3 years ago
Vote Nader!
kram1210 3 years ago 2
gravel kucinich paul nader
dare speak truth
demand peace
ryanshaunkelly 3 years ago
p.s. Hi Lazy!
dviesq 3 years ago
They argue:
1. There ARE distinctions between the Democrats and the Republicans. Translation: We, Democrats, take your vote for granted and EXPECT it, so be good subjects and comply so that we can win;
2. Voting for Nader is throwing your vote away. Translation: You are one of a minority so small as to be ignored and laughed at.
1 and 2 don't add up, somehow...
dviesq 3 years ago
dviesq, let me help you with your math. Your confusion is caused by not tranlsating the second point correctly and that is why things don't add up for you. The second point should be translated to "You are one of a minority that is far too small to elect the person that you are supporting, but just big enough to potentially help the guy who stands in complete opposition to you." If you need furter clarity on that second point, It was demonstrated perfectly in the 2000 election.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
David, first I would like to thank you for your generosity in taking time to bring me out of my confusion. Further, I would like to point out to you that Gore in 2000 did not lose by the few votes that went to Nader, but by the MANY votes he failed to earn by running a lousy, moronic campaign that even lost him his own state. You, my dear friend, are counting the wrong votes in the "not won" column. God's speed!
dviesq 3 years ago
the problem with the logic that Nader spoiled the election for Gore is that Gore did not stand up for the issues that Nader was campaigning on, for me it is Nader or nobody on election day, Nader a true patriot doesn't steal my vote from any professional politician.
LazyHippi 3 years ago
Lazy, your problem and confusion stems from the fact that you don't understand that your vote does not belong to you, it belongs to the Democratic Nominee. So, get with the program, stop thinking for yourself, and don't expect the Democratic nominee to address your concerns. Vote Democrat!
dviesq 3 years ago
Democrat Good
Republican bad
America great
economy strong
LazyHippi 3 years ago
LazyHippi, you just made a perfect argument for why the "votes not won" argument is flawed. You are saying that Gore would have won more votes if he stood up for the issues that Nader stood up for. Well, Nader got roughly 4 percent in one election and 0.3 percent in the next. If those issues are so relevant to winning an election, why isn't he president?
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
David:. "If those issues are so relevant to winning an election..."
the issues relevant to winning an election seems to be simply who is favored by CNN two years ago when the headl;ines were already focused on Obama and Hillary, who is favored by the Des Moines Register and other debate sponsors when Dennis Kucinich is locked out.
who is nominating our candidates? what are THEIR priorities?
Why are you blaming Nader, what was so good about Gore or Kerry or Obama?
LazyHippi 3 years ago
LazyHippi, you are missing the point. It is not that any of those candidates are great (or even good for that matter), it is that come election time, they ecah had enough support to be elected. If a candidate showed up today that represented every single issue of mine perfectly, I would not vote for him if he had 0.03 percent support. It would be a shame for me, but it would still be throwing my vote away. I can make political statements in other ways and not waste my vote doing it.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
David, everyone but you misses the point.
dviesq 3 years ago
dviesq, you are right once again, it is not a matter of missing the point. So, let me ask you.... Do you think that Nader can get elected in the 2008 election?
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
Of course Nader CAN get elected. Will he? in all probability NO, i don't think any one is delusional about that. What matters is that there is very little difference between the mainstream Dems and Republicans in terms of economic policy. They have a monopoly on our government, we must not silence ourselves in the name of the lesser of two evils. If they want my vote they will speak to me as a respectable human being rather than with their crafty political slogans.
LazyHippi 3 years ago
Ballot access and campaign finance laws need to be reformed.
FCC allotment of broadcast rights need to be reformed.
We must stop importing shoddy, dangerous product.or that was made by unfair labor or in destruction of the ecosystem
We must examine our agricultural and housing structure and plan for the future, we, as a nation should eat better.crack down on....
Why are we working more and earning less than ever before?
Why can Obama not be specific about his ideas of hope and change.
LazyHippi 3 years ago
neither Obama or Clinton have really laid it out there on how disgusting the politics leading to the invasion of Iraq were, criminal in fact. Nor do they acknowledge U.S atrocities and vow to discontinue such behavior, Ralph Nader is the ONLY mainstream candidate whom i am able to support, Obama disgusts me.Kerry was un electable, so phony and his manner of speaking was to complicated.and Gore talked like a robot and made out on stage?not to mention the lack of muster*in their platformsVOTENADER
LazyHippi 3 years ago
So, shouldn't you guys focus your time on Ballot and campaign reform laws prior to the election? Think of all of the resources you are investing in his campaign. Why not invest those resources in campaign reform or in any of the slew of other issues you mentioned? Think of what you could actualy accomplish compared to supporting a candidate that you know can't get elected. You could make an actually difference like Nader used to be able to when he focused on specific issues.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
the idea is to reach people and draw attention to the issues, a presidential campaign attracts attention, If Ralph is allowed to the debate then he can ask some tough questions of out corporate candidates, the Nader candidacy is for and by all the people who are working behind the scenes on said issues, i enjoy the privelage of voting, i'm glad that Ralph runs so that i CAN vote for someone who i actually believe will work for democracy.
LazyHippi 3 years ago
I realize that it is easier said than done, but unless you make some real campaign reform well before the election, you are just spinning your wheels and you will be doing the same thing in each election. It needs to be done well before this point in the game. This is the 3rd election and I am surprised that Ralph Nader has not been able to accomplish enough to make a difference. If you do, you may one day have a candidate that can compete, not just make you feel good about making a statement.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
Ok let's do it! Let's have a real movement, I'm with you.
it's strange that people keep saying that this is Ralph's 3rd run for president when i'm quite sure it is really the fifth time.
though in 92 and 96 the campaign was more limited.
LazyHippi 3 years ago 2
Wow, his 5th run?!?!? Sounds like a good case that it can't be changed if Ralph Nader has spent 20 years trying. Geez, the man made miracles back in the day. What happened?
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
Ralph did alot in organizing political action groups, he has quite a work ethic and in the beginning he sort of rode the wave of Auto Safety, he wnt straight to the forefrunt against GM and gained national fame,
Essential to a movement is building public support, that's what ralph is now doing for the issues you hear him speaking about. A presidential campaign is an effective way to reach the public, Nader is CONSTANTLY working on ballot access among other projects...
LazyHippi 3 years ago 2
On the big issues we are up against the big dogs. every time Ralph is on T.V or in the paper, somebody is exposed to critical ideas and they might think....
LazyHippi 3 years ago 2
Dear LazzyHippi and David - stop all this typing and Come join the Road Trip for Ralph! ;)
votenader08 3 years ago
Well, I would probably be a buzzkill on the Road Trip. I would be the equivalent of the guy in the back seat who keeps telling the drive "Hey, you are going the wrong way!" and would eventually be thrown out of the car.
Although on one level I can appreciate what you guys are doing and it probably is alot of fun if you are into it, I still consider it to be throwing your vote away. I hope that you have success at eventually changing the system.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
I Love road trips :)
I live in Washington State so it will be easy to get Ralph on the ballot here, but if you're payin for gas let's go get some signatures!!
p.s is it okay for me to practice articulating my argument and practice typing here? and shouldn't someone defend against unjust accusations and absurd perspectives?
LazyHippi 3 years ago
dviesq, you are right, you guys taught the Gore campaign a valuable lesson. If you don't run a campaign that wins in a landslide, we will make sure you don't win at all. That will show you!
So, now that you taught Gore a lesson for not winning more votes, do you like the outcome?
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
David. *I* didn't teach Gore a lesson. That he learned a lesson, he's better for it and it's his business. You continue to display this egocentric belief that voting for anyone other than Gore was about Gore. The center of the Solar System is the Sun; not Gore. He lost because HE blew it. A lot more independents voted for Bush than for Nader, when Gore was in the perfect position to capture their votes.
dviesq 3 years ago
dviesq, I don't know how to tell you this, but at some point in the electoral process, you will end up with one of two candidates that WILL become president. As much as you would like to pretend otherwise, it doesn't make it the case. I may have been a Weird Al Yankevic fan in 2000 and hoped that he became president, but if I voted for Gore instead of Weird Al, it doesn't mean that I believed that Gore was the center of the Solar System, it means that if I didn't, I helped Bush win.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
David, SHOULD Hillary come back and win the nomination, I can already see you (as an Obama supporter) argue that it was because Republicans voted for her in Primaries like Texas. Is it fun to see yourself as a victim? I reject the arrogance of ANYONE assuming they are entitled to my vote. Gore's own arrogance did him in, NOT my vote.
dviesq 3 years ago
dviesq, If I am understanding it correctly, you are telling me how you think I will feel in a situation that has not happened yet or may never happen? What does that have to do with ANYTHING discussed here?
Regarding your comment, "Is it fun to see yourself as a victim?", All I can say is....WTF!?!?!? You can discuss being a victim when you see your therapist today, but not with me.
Ah, I get it, you are out of material and desperately want to change the subject.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
David, now you're ranting aimlessly. Seeing yourself as a victim is squarely on point. You see yourself as a victim of Nader's supporters who voted for him rather than Gore. You blame the 2000 election outcome on Nader, not Gore's own incompetence.
dviesq 3 years ago
David, you want to hold on to your (self)righteous indignation the way a toddler holds on to his tantrum. Suit yourself :) I have to get ready for work. Have a great day and I thank you for your interest in Ralph Nader and this forum.
dviesq 3 years ago
David, taking responsibility for one's failures, rather than blaming others, is very EMPOWERING. So is letting go of anger. Democrats should consider. Still throwing a tantrum about 2000 will NOT help them win in the fall.
dviesq 3 years ago
dviesq, great advice. Now, why don't you start by taking your own advice. You, along with any other Nader supporter, seem to have a number of reasons explaining why Nader had nothing to do with the election results of 2000. Why don't you take responsibility for Bush being elected? It is very EMPOWERING, you know.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
David, my ego isn't big enough, nor am I delusional enough, to take credit for something I didn't do. As a parent, I know a toddler throws a tantrum; you offer him this toy, that toy, this treat, that treat. He categorically rejects each one! Then, it dawns on you: it feels good to him to be throwing the tantrum and he is not interested in having it taken away from him.
dviesq 3 years ago
dviesq, you are not giving yourself enough credit, you certainly are delusional enough.
Regarding a temper tantrum, that could be the only explanation, right? It couldn't be that you arguments seem to contradictory and void of reasoning.
Now you may not be angry, but remember, the little old lady who sees the car crashes in her rear view mirror is never upset, she just wonders "How did that happen?" It is only the people who she ran off the road that are upset.
DavidSilverlight 3 years ago
nader is a voice of conscience,and that is why he will become no president or even a congressman....people want a monger,a preacher,an enternainer or even a dumb teddy bear when they are afraid(till today) bin laden is the scare of the united states of america.
so many today are in enmity with faintest voice of conscience..so they would love it to shut up,so that they can feel great about themselves....and let the slums dwellers go to hell....
moderate1 3 years ago
These charitable republican funded organizations put food on Nader's table. .org means tax free with minimal oversight. The republicans like Nader. They give Nader money and then he funnels that money into a book tour. He comes out ahead. I wish I could say the same thing for the American people. Nader is corporate. plain and simple. He wants to be president and change washington? Well I want to inhabit mars so I can expose NASA's corporate greed.The odds are the same. Nader is a money funneler.
danworthj 3 years ago
Nader/Gonzalez '08!
cowdude 3 years ago
cool video. thanks for adding this
shultzIII 3 years ago
So votenader08. Then maybe people should have the right to not believe what ralph nader says.
danworthj 3 years ago
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what the hell is that supposed to mean?
dumbass1984 3 years ago
Of course they have that right, and I think Ralph would agree.
Research into what any candidate says. With candidates like Ralph and Mike, you'll find that they're always honest, but you should still research them anyway.
gravel2008 3 years ago 3
I would rather vote for pfg999 down below. That is a Brilliant Summary.
danworthj 3 years ago
Google Naders corporate stock portfolio. Haliburton,Shell Oil,and many other bib big corporate oil companies. That is where your donations go. Nader does not practice what he preaches. I just gave Hillary twenty dollars today.
danworthj 3 years ago
Not true!
Danworthj, didn't your teachers ever tell you, "Don't believe everything you read?"
votenader08 3 years ago
Actually its all in Mutual Funds. He doesn't own any direct stock, only through mututal and EFTS. It's illegal for a person like Nader to own Direct Stock for the reason you are accusing him of.
haloofsin 3 years ago
Every body is the same. Nazis, Clinton, Obama, Terrorists, Republicans. That is what Nader is saying. He put's everybody but himself in one group. Buy his book. That is what he wants. Look at his wikipedia at his stock portfolio. Use your minds. Nader is really the American Nightmare of today. He does business with Haliburton. Please Wake up!
danworthj 3 years ago
You're right, dan. What was I thinking to consider voting for an establishment candidate like Nader when I can vote for the people's candidates like Obama, Hillary and McCain.
dviesq 3 years ago 2
If you will not vote Obama or McCain, I invite you to learn about Nader and what he stands for. Vote for Nader. If not, vote for the third party candidate of your choice. But, send a message that the Republican/Democratic block does NOT speak for everyone. Let's grow together so that we can be heard!
dviesq 3 years ago 4
Our VP is Matt Gonzalez. To see videos of Matt, please visit our playlist secion.
votenader08 3 years ago
With no disrespect to him, what qualifications does he have to be the president (in case something happened to Nader). Although I will not vote for Nader, I am confident that he could handle being president even in the post 911 era.
pfg999 3 years ago
watch the video he has done a lot.
dumbass1984 3 years ago
HILLARY CLINTON 2008!!!!!!!
brklynmatt 3 years ago
Nader is running so you will buy his book, not because really gives a shit about the state of this country. Who manufactured his book? A corporation. What an asshole.
danworthj 3 years ago
NADER FOR PRESIDENT 2008 1st PUBLIC ADDRESS BY RALPH NADER AND HIS 2008 VICE PRESIDENTIAL RUNNING MATE - THURS, FEBRUARY 28, 2008 - 6:00pm Doors Open, 6:30pm Start -Harry Harding Auditorium (Room 213), Elliott School of Int'l Affairs - George Washington University -1957 E Street NW) Admission: $2 at the door Following the foreign policy remarks by Ralph Nader and his Vice Pres. running mate, there will be a Q&A and book signing.
NaderRaider 3 years ago
You are the best thing that has ever happened to the Republican party. Keep up the good work.
I hope you get alot of money from your lawsuit you filed against the democrats too. Let's go out for drinks some time soon and celebrate.
danworthj 3 years ago
Ten times as many registered dems voted republican then green and on top of the gore won the popular vote. You would think the dems would go after the real problem instead of some little party. And by pushing Gore to be more progressive he got gore more votes. The lawsuit is because in 2004 the democrats hired lawyers to get Nader of the Ballots. this is called voter suppression.
Tell me, have the dems done any of that stuff they promised to do when they got elected? Both parties are the same.
dumbass1984 3 years ago 2
Ten times as many registered dems voted republican then green and on top of the gore won the popular vote. You would think the dems would go after the real problem instead of some little party. And by pushing Gore to be more progressive he got gore more votes. The lawsuit is because in 2004 the democrats hired lawyers to get Nader of the Ballots. this is called voter suppression.
Tell me, have the dems done any of that stuff they promised to do when they got elected? Both parties are the same.
dumbass1984 3 years ago
Wow, it's a good thing this campaign ad speaks to my generation!
...Yeah, that's the air I got out of it.
WVI 3 years ago
NADER + VP
12 noon ET / Thur. 28 FEB 08
gravel kucinich paul nader
Truth Time.
ryanshaunkelly 3 years ago
Unless Mr. Nader gets on the Ballot, And
has a Running Mate that has Media Respects,
His Campaign will suffer from SIDS!
That means We need to Get Petitions,
That means We need to Sign Petitions,
And Mr. Nader will need money for
Court Challenges. (That's how the
opposition keeps good people off the balot)
And That, is just the Beginning!!!
1musichombre 3 years ago
Happy Birthday Ralph! Thanks for running, I can't wait to see you debate the Corporate front runners. YOU HAVE MY VOTE!
Obama can't claim to be an 'agent of change' now with you in the race....
Kold2market 3 years ago
Ralph, the YouTube posts made a difference on the WGA strike. It would have been better if the strike leaders could comment, but the public forum was unprecedented despite their media blackout.
You or your staff's direct feedback to comments (positive and negative) would be groundbreaking and could make a significant difference in the election.
This is almost actually democratic.
Best!
raproducer 3 years ago
The matrix has you:
youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=9zAkngDyPWc
freedomsadvocate07 3 years ago
ALOHA from MAUI: good luck to ralph and HAU'OLI LA HANAU/HAPPY BIRTHDAY; he is one of amerika's, and the world's, true heroes; i was a delegate from hawai'i at both the 1996 and 2000 green party conventions; if on the ballot, i will vote for ralph; he was not able to get on the ballot in 2004 here in hawai'i, which is 1 of only 5 states which does not allow write-in voting; the rules are stacked against a 3rd party, so the chances of winning are nil; however, he brings up issues no one else does
nikhilananda 3 years ago 2
Aloha! Yes, we missed being on the ballot in Hawai'i by 39 signatures! Many young people are not registered to vote, so that's the first step. Maloha!
votenader08 3 years ago
O`ahu checking in! Aloha! We won't let that signature drive miss again.
StratusBlue 3 years ago 2
Third party canidates get the shaft in our so called Democracy... I think that is why Ron Paul is opting to stay as a republican though his is both a republican and libertarian.... Either Ralph, Dr. Paul or Mike Gravel would be great for our country...
maberry21 3 years ago 2
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Oasis endorse Ralph Nader 2008, video proof on my page
velcroFathoms 3 years ago
cool. all the right positions on the issues. but you won't win. so effectively anyone who joins your push is waisting their time. the people of this country are to stupid to vote for anything that will actually benefit them. maybe Ralph should convert to some stupid christian bullshit. then people would actually vote for him. no van a hacer nada.
tevoyadeciralgo 3 years ago
NO ME DICES NADA.
the truth must be spoken and a presidential campaign is an honorable action. If DK or MG were winning primaries i doubt Ralph would run against them, but as it is we have no viable candidate. Ralph! Lo necesitamos.
LazyHippi 3 years ago 2
Hawai'i checking in, more militarized than ever. Some say the forces against us are too many and too powerful. I say to them, go home and hide from this fight. You have no stomach for Democracy. I will vote for Mr. Nader and together we will restore this Democracy without you military-industrial collaborators. If you will not fight to restore the Constitution, you should flee to your international elitist plantations where you belong among your ilk: the faithless, the defeatists and the greedy.
StratusBlue 3 years ago 2
If Gravel wasn't running, I would so do this! Maybe we can collaborate in our efforts. I have some ideas in the works. :)
ChannelMikeG 3 years ago
You COULD do both! We would be happy to have Mike's fans help. We also welcome supporters of Dennis Kucinch. We have a large platform of issues that the major parties will not address. We know that not everyone will agree with all of them, but we are happy to collaborate.
Although Ralph has a different platform than the Reform Party on many, many issues, we worked with them, and the Libertarian Party, in 2004 on ballot access. Please stay in touch with us at VoteNader dot org.
votenader08 3 years ago
Cool. I am signed up on the mailing list. I am waiting to hear how Mike will go about a third party run. I am hoping this will be the summer of the independent.
ChannelMikeG 3 years ago
Let's do this!
LazyHippi 3 years ago
a vote for Nader is a vote for McCain
Thank you Nader For giving us Bush. i would of liked to have Gore but Nader gave us bush
highlander924 3 years ago
While I like Nader, him entering slightly lowers Obama's chances because he'll steal some votes from Barack. I can't see that as a good thing, but Barack should still win comfortably over McCain.
BMVlado 3 years ago