The Catholic Church does not recognize other churches as true churches. The church does not recognize civil authority as having anything to say about its affairs. The church does not recognize civil divorce among Catholics, requiring an annulment in order to remarry. Everyone knows obtaining an annulment takes a long time and a hefty amount of money, but if you are rich you are virtually assured of getting one. Every Kennedy who wanted one has one. The church is corrupt, dishonest, greedy.
Jesus said your sins are forgiven, go and sin no more. The Catholic church is apparently above God, therein lies it's demise. Would Jesus banish a sinner? Of course not! What does Jesus say about Priest pedophiles? What is THEIR precise punishment?
Sorry. This comes from a church filled with SINGLE men who are priests. NONE of them have the anguish of being in a horrible marriage. "Oh yes, divorced Catholic, you can still come to Mass. But if you fall in love, and want to marry someone else, well, please, come to Mass, but you may not receive the Bread and Wine?"
@westsidewarrior1972 There is no 'bread and wine' to be taken. We accept it to be literally, the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ. It is not something to be dealt with lightly.
Hence anyone with grave sin upon their souls is prohibited from recieving it, not only remarried people.
Further these 'single' men do not lack hearts or hormones, their commitment is to God nonetheless. They know relationships, differently perhaps, but they are not aliens.
The problem is, Jesus DID ban divorce. Jesus words remain true today. If he is your father and you are HIS church, you will teach his words. Divorce was (and still is) Banned. Only the pope and priests say it was unbanned. The cannon scripture says no such thing. Grace allows a believer to remain separate, true. After all, you cannot force your wife or husband to convert. This verse is in 1 Corinthians 7:15 (King James Version). But that is mainly for unbelievers, it says so, verse 15 (KJV)
But some civilly divorces are not guilty of the grave sin..2386 It can happen that one of the spouses is the innocent victim of a divorce decreed by civil law; this spouse therefore has not contravened the moral law. There is a considerable difference between a spouse who has sincerely tried to be faithful to the sacrament of marriage and is unjustly abandoned, and one who through his own grave fault destroys a canonically valid marriage.179
2386 It can happen that one of the spouses is the innocent victim of a divorce decreed by civil law; this spouse therefore has not contravened the moral law. There is a considerable difference between a spouse who has sincerely tried to be faithful to the sacrament of marriage and is unjustly abandoned, and one who through his own grave fault destroys a canonically valid marriage.
If u have been civilly divorced by someone but remain faithful to the marriage, u may partake of the Eucharist.
CIVIL divorce may be okay in certain circumstances... when there are no other alternatives and AFTER seeking permission from the bishop (ccc2383 & Can 1151-5)
It is important to note that being civilly divorced does not automatically indicate that you are divorced in your heart and no longer consider yourself to be married. There are many, especially in a "no-fault divorce" society, who are abandoned but remain faithful. Our Catechism makes it clear that these people are not in grave sin. FCG
@spinemelter2000 Msgr. Barr's comment about Jesus banning divorce is in reference to Matthew 19:1-12 - specifically verse 6 which states, "So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, no human being must separate."
@BigGrinStudios But that is if the marriage is RIGHT. If the Church, which is morally right, looks that the marriage wasn't even right at the beginning, then you are entitled to a divorce.
My parents divorced after my father cheated. Would my mother be accepted in the Catholic church? Would my father? I was brought up non-denominational but now that I'm an adult and want to make a decision on religion. I'd really appreciate some advice. Thank you and God bless!
@XxemohorrorxX I’m sorry to hear about your parents’ marriage. Infidelity is devastating. Jesus Christ taught about the indissolubility of marriage and the Church cannot abolish this demand. However, Pope Benedict XVI speaks about “painful situations” and encourages pastors to discern different experiences carefully in order to offer a compassionate response. The Church absolutely accepts your parents and invites them to seek healing within the context of the family and community of God.
Sorry but this is BS? My mother had to get divorced to protect herself and her kids from spouse abuse. She needed help getting back on her feet. She was heavily involved in the Catholic church, but they turned their back on her. Would not help and basically said get lost. You do not let divorced continue to be catholic. It's so hypicritical. The Salvation Army helped, not the Catholics. Shame on you Catholic Church.
Surprised you didn't mention getting an annulment in this answer.
GreatG0dOm 3 days ago
The Catholic Church does not recognize other churches as true churches. The church does not recognize civil authority as having anything to say about its affairs. The church does not recognize civil divorce among Catholics, requiring an annulment in order to remarry. Everyone knows obtaining an annulment takes a long time and a hefty amount of money, but if you are rich you are virtually assured of getting one. Every Kennedy who wanted one has one. The church is corrupt, dishonest, greedy.
chubbtm5 1 week ago
Jesus said your sins are forgiven, go and sin no more. The Catholic church is apparently above God, therein lies it's demise. Would Jesus banish a sinner? Of course not! What does Jesus say about Priest pedophiles? What is THEIR precise punishment?
Siguror6 1 month ago
Sorry. This comes from a church filled with SINGLE men who are priests. NONE of them have the anguish of being in a horrible marriage. "Oh yes, divorced Catholic, you can still come to Mass. But if you fall in love, and want to marry someone else, well, please, come to Mass, but you may not receive the Bread and Wine?"
westsidewarrior1972 2 months ago
@westsidewarrior1972 There is no 'bread and wine' to be taken. We accept it to be literally, the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ. It is not something to be dealt with lightly.
Hence anyone with grave sin upon their souls is prohibited from recieving it, not only remarried people.
Further these 'single' men do not lack hearts or hormones, their commitment is to God nonetheless. They know relationships, differently perhaps, but they are not aliens.
MrWildbill20056 2 months ago
The problem is, Jesus DID ban divorce. Jesus words remain true today. If he is your father and you are HIS church, you will teach his words. Divorce was (and still is) Banned. Only the pope and priests say it was unbanned. The cannon scripture says no such thing. Grace allows a believer to remain separate, true. After all, you cannot force your wife or husband to convert. This verse is in 1 Corinthians 7:15 (King James Version). But that is mainly for unbelievers, it says so, verse 15 (KJV)
unixmanable86 6 months ago
But some civilly divorces are not guilty of the grave sin..2386 It can happen that one of the spouses is the innocent victim of a divorce decreed by civil law; this spouse therefore has not contravened the moral law. There is a considerable difference between a spouse who has sincerely tried to be faithful to the sacrament of marriage and is unjustly abandoned, and one who through his own grave fault destroys a canonically valid marriage.179
As long as they remain faithful to the covenant
FCG
FRANCISCGEORGE 7 months ago
2386 It can happen that one of the spouses is the innocent victim of a divorce decreed by civil law; this spouse therefore has not contravened the moral law. There is a considerable difference between a spouse who has sincerely tried to be faithful to the sacrament of marriage and is unjustly abandoned, and one who through his own grave fault destroys a canonically valid marriage.
If u have been civilly divorced by someone but remain faithful to the marriage, u may partake of the Eucharist.
FRANCISCGEORGE 8 months ago
CIVIL divorce may be okay in certain circumstances... when there are no other alternatives and AFTER seeking permission from the bishop (ccc2383 & Can 1151-5)
It is important to note that being civilly divorced does not automatically indicate that you are divorced in your heart and no longer consider yourself to be married. There are many, especially in a "no-fault divorce" society, who are abandoned but remain faithful. Our Catechism makes it clear that these people are not in grave sin. FCG
FRANCISCGEORGE 8 months ago
The explanation you just gave of Jesus' reason for banning divorce -- is that in the Bible? If so, what passage? I would like to read more about it.
spinemelter2000 9 months ago
@spinemelter2000 Msgr. Barr's comment about Jesus banning divorce is in reference to Matthew 19:1-12 - specifically verse 6 which states, "So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, no human being must separate."
BigGrinStudios 9 months ago
@BigGrinStudios But that is if the marriage is RIGHT. If the Church, which is morally right, looks that the marriage wasn't even right at the beginning, then you are entitled to a divorce.
MarioKartFigure 4 months ago
My parents divorced after my father cheated. Would my mother be accepted in the Catholic church? Would my father? I was brought up non-denominational but now that I'm an adult and want to make a decision on religion. I'd really appreciate some advice. Thank you and God bless!
XxemohorrorxX 9 months ago
@XxemohorrorxX I’m sorry to hear about your parents’ marriage. Infidelity is devastating. Jesus Christ taught about the indissolubility of marriage and the Church cannot abolish this demand. However, Pope Benedict XVI speaks about “painful situations” and encourages pastors to discern different experiences carefully in order to offer a compassionate response. The Church absolutely accepts your parents and invites them to seek healing within the context of the family and community of God.
BigGrinStudios 9 months ago
Sorry but this is BS? My mother had to get divorced to protect herself and her kids from spouse abuse. She needed help getting back on her feet. She was heavily involved in the Catholic church, but they turned their back on her. Would not help and basically said get lost. You do not let divorced continue to be catholic. It's so hypicritical. The Salvation Army helped, not the Catholics. Shame on you Catholic Church.
viperchilli 1 year ago