Bombik83 ! I am very sorry! I really am. I dont think that estonians earn more money than russians in Estonia. I think that better workers get more.. Maybe thats why he didnt get bonuses. But this was only one company.. Yes, there is some estonians who dont like russians, but hey, shut a fuck off.. You cant tell me that all estonians in the world hate russians!! There is some americans, germans, estonians etc. who dont like other countries or people, but its normal, isnt it?!
They dont speak russian because there not "motivated" to learn estonian. Estonia has been a free country for 20 years, they speak russian to show they are not estonian to show they will not accept estonian society. My advice to them would be. fuck off back to russia then. Tallinn is a wonderfull city just avoid lasnaumae and kopoli
Its not about motivation. It is about respecting the country you live in,
And people who live in any country without learning or trying to learn the official languages has absolutely no respect for where they are. Nor do they deserve to live there.
I dont hate russians, but russians, who cant learn estonian, please go back in russia -.- you dont belong here and you even dont want to!?! or if you do, you can stay, learn estonian, have a job, have friends and... Welcome to estonia! :)
I`m estonian and i have some russian friends, who can speak estonian as well as estonians. I can see that they respect us and respect that they can live here. But some russians dont want to learn estonian and they want to have a good job in here?!? no way.. if you dont respect estonia and estonians, why do we have to respect you ? -.-
@MsMissa17 I worked in very good company and I thinked there is no difference between estonians and russians who speaks perfectly in estonian.But you are wrong.The guy who speaks estonian perfectly,he was educated perfectly.But once he saw contracts of guys of the same position.And there was difference with salary(big enough difference),estonians got bonuses,Christmas money.But he didn t.And there are many difference,I wont write it here.SO SHUT THE FUCK OFF
you are funny. we dont have so many russians who cant speak estonian, more or less only adult people,who came here to work, build factories and houses. But almost everyone who was born after 80 can speck estonian and like everywhere we have some people who dosnt want to learn, who can not connect two words in the sentence even in own language not only russians but and estonians too. usualy only estonian politicians love to use such arguments as you did to suck money calling it an integration.
@stellarcreed yeah i'm with u on that, all my Russian friends can speak estonian, only my mum can't ... lol, but i don't blame her she is now 50 (just like u said she doesn't want to learn it). Overall i think it's just a brainwash to create an argument between two nations. People!!! our lives are so short, don't waste ur precious time on hate. x
yes, I think you have to be motivated. the passion is the kety it doens't matter how how hard the language it is maybe even if its is very hard. i have passion for learning russion , so when i learn its like i'm playing rather than working
@Sillilesshells That's right. I like what you said. ''It;s like I'm playing rather than working'' That's how it should be. Thanks for viewing and commenting.
@laoshu505000 You don t everything what s going on here!!!!Many of russians sorry for being born in Estonia.They called occupants by estonians.These people have no homeland.There is always difference in everything between russian and estonian.Russians are the second class of people in estonia.They dont feel at HOME at all.But they have no choice....So tell me would you like lo learn estonian if you were russian.Even if you have russian surname there will be big difference
Propoganda008!am sorr,yea y right!!what about me?am estonian,france,polich and russia have in my blood!!!!but i am born in my country ESTONIA!!!and this is my mother land!!!!and i pretaction my country!!!!!!!!!!!!tnx
I can not see the problem here. If some russians in Estonia want so bad to speak russian, for shure they can move to Russia and speak as much russian as they want. In Estonuia they speak estonian.
I live in Norway where we have many refugees from Pakistan. The Pakistans here must learn Norwegian and no Norwegian people understand Pakistan language.And all people from Pakistan understand that the have to learn Norwegian. It as simpel as that. The Estonians have already been to nice!!
Norwegians in USA are immigrants that came to a fully-functional state with (relatively) long history. If the Russians came in, let's say, '95 it would might sense that everyone should know the state language(might bc it could have impact on trade relations and etc)
The Russians in Estonia did strive to build the country, it was their home as well, or are you trying to blame all the communism/world wars solely on Russians?
So this is a message to russians living in Estonia : You had 20 years to learn Estonian , if you do not learn it now and you still want to speak russian, well... you can move to Russia, where all speak Russian and you will be happy, and the Estonian people will be happy too = good solution!
Hi I am a Norwegian and have been to Estonia a few times the last years. I still notice that the russians that live in Estonia have still not learned Estonian .. ?!
There is 20 years ago now, you russians have now had plenty of time to learn estonian!
I have also been to other destinations in the world where russians also speak russian. Maybe they think that the whole world should speak russian, how arrogant!
@rastamees It is because Estonians do not accept russians into their community. They keep them isolated. Estonians do not accept russian culture, they want Estonian russians to be like estonians.
i have no problem with them myself, but the possible negativity is caused by the occupation, that they still deny. even after deporting tens of thousand of estonians, who they considered to be a threat(military background etc), to siberia, to work(die) in inhumane conditions.
its also the fact that some of them dont consider themselves as estonians, but still russians. and they wont learn our language even after living here for decades, which is just insulting.
Not mentioning the snitches who like the neighbour's farm, I think it's silly to oppose deported estonians to russians, I'd rather call it system slaughtering its own people. While I understand Estonia might have developed at a faster pace had there been no occupation, Estonia as part of the USSR was the frontier and one of its most developed regions.
Even in non-democratic USSR Estonians were not forced to become Russians, why do it backwards?
russian wouldnt learn perfect estonian anyway, accent always remains.
Either way, Russian language is being destroyed, government showed its attitude with the monument, why would you expect Russians to be willing to integrate? If you tell the guy in vid that he would be welcome only if he was white, do you think he would want to become white? No, he wouldn't.
2) I guarantee that new programme to study subjects in Estonian will result in poor knowledge of the subjects
3) The national examinations in Russian have been becoming easier, it used to be 600 word essay only, now it's 400 word essay and answering questions to a few given texts(a task for imbeciles)
4) Gj making teachers of Russian study Estonian
5) Monument was an inflamatory move. Could have been solved in a peaceful reasonable way
they major of our capital Tallinn get al lot of influence from russia(money i guess to buy power or keep it): like building russian church for instance or renovating russian schools before estonian....
Renovating schools? Do you happen to know that some of school's buildings were sold in order to afford the renovation and later on to pay for rent? It's a major theft by Savisaar and his buttbuddies.
Now lets face the facts - estonians schools are in a lot better condition.
@MyFeldsher это для русских он богаче, но это не причина чтобы его не учить. Я думаю причина в том, что русские не очень интегрированы в эстонское общество.
to be honest... I hate every russian person who live in estonia and can't talk in estonian... like realy.. if you live here then you have to talk too when you don't like estonian the go back to russia
Sviiks!!yes you right!!and what about Azerbadzanians,afroamerikans who never learnt ower languege????they even speak that!!but have ower passport!!when i say TERE!!i hear y welcome how i you! WTF??????
@NappFilm Real problem of what? Estonian economy being a disaster? Estonian corruption?Unemployment? Discrimination against russians and other nationalities? Wake up, it is globalization.
@Sviiks They have a lot more choices than you think. Trust me)) and one of the extra choices is you speaking russian. that's what you have left to do.
@MrMidnight09 Per Estonians, they are nothing. I was born in Estonia, and when i went to estonian kindergarden, one of the teaches qiuetly observed when other estonian child bit me on my face. I still have scar on my cheek.
Your not right, and may be racist! At-least listen to what he has to say; He's not forcing his opinion on you, but sharing it with you! His quote: "I wan't to give my opinions to you." This phrase means he's not lecturing you, but wishes to share his opinion with you. Don't pull it out of context and take it so personal by getting racist and calling him a "monkey!" You shouldn't defensively feel he's trying to tarnish your native heritage name; or whatever relationship you have to Europe!
I think people just fail to realize that Estonia has a large population of Russian immigrants due to the past and once it got independent, many continued to live there. If you lived somewhere all your life and then all of a sudden the place changed, you don't always have the option to move to another country or simply don't want to. Learning a new language isn't always that easy either, especially for older people or lack or money and etc.
Russians just try to conquer Estonia by not speaking their language, just like they have done many times to many countries, Swedish also uses that same tactic. That's why I hate Swedish and Russian languages (btw I'm Finnish, not Estonian) but I just can't see how some Russian can live in Estonia thinking that it's still part of Soviet Union where everybody should speak Russia. People should speak Estonian in Estonia, not Russian. Unless if they speak it to other Russians of course
@isokessu they make up to 30 % you idiot, and i am half german and russian so i should know what i am talking about, Russian is an indo european slavic language while estonian is a uralic mongolian language, russian fought against mongolian so hard to get their independence and now they have to learn their language thats not good
@HongKongKanto Estonian is NOT a fucking MONGOLIAN language -.- it's Finno-Ugric language. Estonians were in Estonia BEFORE Russians. Mongols have attacked against everybody, raped few people and then left but Estonians are not Mongols more what Russians or anybody are. Actually Some Russians who live in Siberia are Mongols -.- and hundreds of years later when Soviet Union attacked Estonia, some of the Soviet soldiers were actually Mongols living in Soviet Union. * Estonians are not Mongols
@isokessu Meyers Konversations-Lexikon says so, its clearly that youre a mongolian race your language compare to all other european languages like slavic, german or romanian are completely different, it really sounds like mongolian thats why russian hate to learn such a langauge as we fought so hard for our independence against mongolians, i think estonians are the russian children of the russian womens that were raped and you still using their langauge.
@HongKongKanto: First humans living in Finland and Estonia were Homo Neanderthals (who left Africa way before Homo Sapiens) but they died in ice age. When ice started to melt, Finno-Ugric people came in Europe from Middle-East actually before German, Greek, Russian etc. people ancestors and that was 10 000 years ago -.- when Mongols didn't know anything about Europe. When Mongols first attacked Europe about 2000 years ago, Finnish and Estonians had been here for thousands of years
@isokessu In America so many nationalities, they speak their own language. It is interesting, when I came to Estonia as a tourist, the seller at some small store did not want to help me because I did not speak estonian. then I began to speak english, she did not help either because she did not know english. How idiotic is that?
@sherman630 why don't you teach them? Give them a good job, not some construction job, bug good job. And how many Russians represent Russian community in Estonian parlament ? Probably none.
Out of curiousity, why do you want to learn Estonian? I ask because it's a very tiny country with a small number of people who speak it compared to other languages...and it is a horrifically difficult language for a native English speaker to pick up in adulthood. I am starting to learn it primarily because I am of Estonian blood- my family came from Tallinn and moved to the US after WWII. Do you live there now or something? Or just like it? It is beautiful and unlike most other Euro. languages!
I live in Lithuania for years, but I'm a russian speaker. I'm motivated to learn English, I'm motivated to learn Italian, I'm motivated to learn Japanese, but I'm not motivated to learn my own country's language. And honestly speaking, fuck it :P Lithuanian with its prehistoric grammar just ain't worth it.
International organizations usually report that 9%-17%of the country's population is White. Most of these are the descendants of the Spanish colonial population called criollo. - from wikipedia
and u forgot to add that lot of americans came from spain too ...
International organizations usually report that 9%-17%of the country's population is White. Most of these are the descendants of the Spanish colonial population called criollo. - from wikipedia
and u forgot to add that lot of americans came from spain too ... oh and u forgot africa :D
@klaabu99 your average caucasian yankee has about as much spanish blood in him as he has chinese. Sure there is some but nowhere near enough to call them descendants of the spanish. Besides what does your "point" have to do with anything? spanish is what you call an ethnic group, doesn't have anything to do with spain nor which area they currently occupy. if you dont understand english stay away from the "post" button k?
Hispanic and Latino Americans are Americans with origins in the Hispanic countries of Latin America or in Spain, and in general all persons in the United States who self-identify as Hispanic or Latino.
mine ja paranda enda inglise keele oskust veel enne kui tuled teiste kallal õiendama .. hispanic pole sama mis spanish ...
so your big point was picking on slang that you dont understand? you poor bastard, must be hard living with your brain capacity.. maybe you should go see what wikipedia has to say on mental retardation
Actually, it depends. In Estonia Russians make up about 30 percent and in some places they make up the majority of the population, so they naturally would not learn the Estonian language (at least the older generation). Meanwhile, I live in Siauliai (Lithuania), where Russians make up only about 10 percent or less. So almost every Russian can speak Lithuanian, no problem. It only depends on relative numbers, not because Russians were supposedly arrogant or nationalistic or similar nonsense...
Yes, it's necessary to be able to communicate in the language of the country you live in. But what about discrimination of the Russian-speaking minority (namely, no citizenship for them, ban of Russian cable TV, Russian schools), condemned by the Council of Europe and human rights organizations? There are Russians (mostly elderly ones) who just can't possibly master a Baltic language. And yet there are some Estonians who pretend that they don't understand Russian (which they actually do). Peace.
@klaabu99 For more info on all of these issues, check out Wiki. "Knowledge of Estonian language and history were set as conditions for naturalization". Knowledge of Russian history & language isn't necessary to get Russian citizenship. Since 2007 Russian schools are being reformed. There are Russian communities in Baltic states and it's necessary to provide equal rights for them. Deal with it. B)
P.S. I mean no offence, dude. I'm from Siberia, trying to learn Estonian among other languages.
there is no history test for 10 years already, and language & constitution test - most countries have it even russia ... u have to update u info about russian citizenship
yeah russian schools being reformed to give russians equal chances to get into university after school .. and russia should support education in russian as estonia does with teaching estonian language in regions in russia where lives lot of estonians ... pls find out a bit more about school reform in estonia
@klaabu99 Cool then! Thanks for the info. In fact, in my city knowledge of Russian & Russian constitution is a pure formality for quite a few categories of people who would want to obtain Russian citizenship. And the last thing I want is (God forbid) preventing Estonians from communicating in their language in Russia (or elsewhere). ^_^ Peace out! =)
Muslims have a peculiar belief that any piece of property that was once theirs, bought, borrowed, or stolen, is forever muslim. Slavs must have the same system. Other than an extreme cultural diference, Estonians and the other Finnic people, have had to endure a thousand years of Russian perfidy. So far from God, so close to Moscow.
im sorry for saying that .... what i meant was most of the russians (incredibly racist, i know, but i consider it more a fact then speculation).
for you all i have to say was that how do you even know im estonian, for all you know i could be swedish ..... dont talk about things you dont know are true.
i just commented on status not texture. i have nothing against russians and for the most part your argument of me dying being a slave in the soul is incredibly strange. smiley face
Im 13 years old and i live in Estonia for all my life, Im half russian half estonian and i know estonian very well because im in estonian scool and i have estonian friends.
Please dont listen to people who say dumb things.It is realy cool that a person in America learns estonian.I hope you will visit us someday.
People keep saying that ohh you dont get job in estonia and that prizes are high etc.These are the people who are lazy.It is NOT hard at all to get a job in estonia if you have a brein and you are not lazy.In my opinion estonia is a beutifull small country where im proud to live in :)
@Mihkellt "it's not hard to get a job in estonia" - is that why so many estonians like to work in Europe? Or may be is it not hard to get a job for PURE estonian?
@Propoganda008 The thing is that people have way to high expectations on the payout.People hope to get better life outside the country thats why so many leave.
I totally agree with you. They are not motivated enough because they can get by with speaking only russian. Most of the people who lived here during the times when Estonia was a part of the USSR know russian, but that generation is getting older and soon enough will die out. The younger generation of estonians finds it really hard to learn russian, mainly because there is really no language enviornment. We are taught english from a very early age, but russian comes much later.
There are more and more Russians that live in Estonia and don't speak Estonian -.- I visited Narvav yesterday (i visited my relative) and got beaten up because i don't speak Russian (by some assholes who appeared to be asking for some smoke). All i hear in the streets is Russian, It just pisses me off, i dont know if im living in Estonia or Russia. The posters and advertisments are also in Russian (though their in Estonian aswell) but the national language is Estonian.Just wanted to make mypoint
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@laoshu505000 lets be honest. u crisize russians in estonia while niggers are hated in white countries where they reside. so russians are like white niggers. so if youd live in estonia youd critisize yourself? so be real niggers arnt welcomed a cent more in any white countries as russians. dooooh mister monkey nigger.
@beeqool Yes, you're right. I'm sorry to hear that you've had some bad experiences. When I get to Estonia, let's hook up and have a cup of tea or something. Take care man.
Only Russtonians understand my Estonian , Estonians will almost always start to speak english with me (without missing a beat ). Linguistic integration is well under way....and I might add that hundreds of thousands of Estonians have at least one or two Russian ancestors.
I understand what you are saying but some things still bother me. I have a lot of friends who don't speak estonian and live here and it's chill. But when you are buying a burger in estonia and the lady doesn't understand what you want on your burger cuz she only speaks russian. that's not cool... And I don't get a job cuz I don't speak russian? wtf
Than why do you live in Estonia if you dont know Estonian?
Ishtara1000 4 days ago
Bombik83 ! I am very sorry! I really am. I dont think that estonians earn more money than russians in Estonia. I think that better workers get more.. Maybe thats why he didnt get bonuses. But this was only one company.. Yes, there is some estonians who dont like russians, but hey, shut a fuck off.. You cant tell me that all estonians in the world hate russians!! There is some americans, germans, estonians etc. who dont like other countries or people, but its normal, isnt it?!
MsMissa17 2 weeks ago
They dont speak russian because there not "motivated" to learn estonian. Estonia has been a free country for 20 years, they speak russian to show they are not estonian to show they will not accept estonian society. My advice to them would be. fuck off back to russia then. Tallinn is a wonderfull city just avoid lasnaumae and kopoli
wingman662 2 weeks ago 2
Its not about motivation. It is about respecting the country you live in,
And people who live in any country without learning or trying to learn the official languages has absolutely no respect for where they are. Nor do they deserve to live there.
kurjast 4 weeks ago
what a gay hat ?
slavik850910 4 weeks ago
dude, just stop doin what you r doin. just repeating word motivating. wtf too much spear time ?
Learn estonian instead & learn Estonian history. Please enough you`re empty words you don`t know nothing.
Satc1 1 month ago
Estonians were mean to Russians in early 90's ,then Russians got mad and said fuck it
marinadancin 1 month ago
loll jutt, olen venelane elan eestis räägin eesti kelt ja õppin eesti kelles ja kõik minu sõbrat räägivad ka
fireipad1992 1 month ago
sword, 5 o'clock
Gamer03121993 1 month ago
If you live in Estonia you must learn Estonian!
oi565 1 month ago
Hungarians don´t learn Slovak language in Slovakia and are reluctant to speak it.
Redeky85 2 months ago
I think he is some Popular Dancer that likes some Dance Companies in Estonia. Rly
Kennyzackyy 3 months ago
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I dont hate russians, but russians, who cant learn estonian, please go back in russia -.- you dont belong here and you even dont want to!?! or if you do, you can stay, learn estonian, have a job, have friends and... Welcome to estonia! :)
MsMissa17 3 months ago
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MsMissa17 3 months ago
Hi,
I`m estonian and i have some russian friends, who can speak estonian as well as estonians. I can see that they respect us and respect that they can live here. But some russians dont want to learn estonian and they want to have a good job in here?!? no way.. if you dont respect estonia and estonians, why do we have to respect you ? -.-
MsMissa17 3 months ago 18
@MsMissa17 I worked in very good company and I thinked there is no difference between estonians and russians who speaks perfectly in estonian.But you are wrong.The guy who speaks estonian perfectly,he was educated perfectly.But once he saw contracts of guys of the same position.And there was difference with salary(big enough difference),estonians got bonuses,Christmas money.But he didn t.And there are many difference,I wont write it here.SO SHUT THE FUCK OFF
Bombik83 1 month ago
you are funny. we dont have so many russians who cant speak estonian, more or less only adult people,who came here to work, build factories and houses. But almost everyone who was born after 80 can speck estonian and like everywhere we have some people who dosnt want to learn, who can not connect two words in the sentence even in own language not only russians but and estonians too. usualy only estonian politicians love to use such arguments as you did to suck money calling it an integration.
stellarcreed 4 months ago
@stellarcreed yeah i'm with u on that, all my Russian friends can speak estonian, only my mum can't ... lol, but i don't blame her she is now 50 (just like u said she doesn't want to learn it). Overall i think it's just a brainwash to create an argument between two nations. People!!! our lives are so short, don't waste ur precious time on hate. x
LaFiesta22 3 months ago
@LaFiesta22 great post. I agree with you here.
laoshu505000 3 months ago
Wait what do you know about Estonia? Don't quite look like one...
DenaliMt 4 months ago
yes, I think you have to be motivated. the passion is the kety it doens't matter how how hard the language it is maybe even if its is very hard. i have passion for learning russion , so when i learn its like i'm playing rather than working
Sillilesshells 4 months ago
@Sillilesshells That's right. I like what you said. ''It;s like I'm playing rather than working'' That's how it should be. Thanks for viewing and commenting.
laoshu505000 4 months ago 5
@laoshu505000 You don t everything what s going on here!!!!Many of russians sorry for being born in Estonia.They called occupants by estonians.These people have no homeland.There is always difference in everything between russian and estonian.Russians are the second class of people in estonia.They dont feel at HOME at all.But they have no choice....So tell me would you like lo learn estonian if you were russian.Even if you have russian surname there will be big difference
Bombik83 1 month ago
Propoganda008!am sorr,yea y right!!what about me?am estonian,france,polich and russia have in my blood!!!!but i am born in my country ESTONIA!!!and this is my mother land!!!!and i pretaction my country!!!!!!!!!!!!tnx
MrMidnight09 5 months ago
Estonia is a nazi shithole!Nice hat btw!!
Vetal83 5 months ago
I can not see the problem here. If some russians in Estonia want so bad to speak russian, for shure they can move to Russia and speak as much russian as they want. In Estonuia they speak estonian.
I live in Norway where we have many refugees from Pakistan. The Pakistans here must learn Norwegian and no Norwegian people understand Pakistan language.And all people from Pakistan understand that the have to learn Norwegian. It as simpel as that. The Estonians have already been to nice!!
heltensin 5 months ago
@heltensin
Pakistani immigrant-refugees and Estonian citizens/residents with Russian background are not the same things. /facepalm
mrReiseReise 5 months ago
@mrReiseReise
That is true, the pakistani is not that arrogant to demand that the country they live in shold learn their language!
You russians in estonia ; you are living in ESTONIA and in estonia they speak estonian. Learn Estonian you arrogant Russians.
In fact many Norwegians live in USA, but do they speak Norwegian where they live... ? NOT. OF COURSE"
Russians; Learn it or beat it!
heltensin 5 months ago
@heltensin
you talk yet you have no clue about the issue.
Norwegians in USA are immigrants that came to a fully-functional state with (relatively) long history. If the Russians came in, let's say, '95 it would might sense that everyone should know the state language(might bc it could have impact on trade relations and etc)
The Russians in Estonia did strive to build the country, it was their home as well, or are you trying to blame all the communism/world wars solely on Russians?
mrReiseReise 5 months ago
Yo!Props man!,.why?I think u know that well b,.for pps ho born here tha same as ya there.,da f.colors and so,..
Peace!
beatmars 5 months ago
To nilthgrim id rather have this greater of this video in estonia than russian bastards!!!!
multikribu 5 months ago
ur cool -.-
i can speak estonia perfect
mastercrakor 5 months ago
@mastercrakor I doubt you can speak Estonian perfectly, I've yet to see a person that can.
madlei 5 months ago
If do not have any motivation, you do not learn a shit. He is so right !
aivopark 6 months ago 2
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nice hat, black baboon.
n22rivana 6 months ago
@n22rivana ROLMAO!
laoshu505000 6 months ago 8
@n22rivana
Sorry about this guy, he's a tool and makes me ashamed.
moblaman 5 months ago
@n22rivana This is so wrong, but so funny lmao...
madlei 5 months ago
So this is a message to russians living in Estonia : You had 20 years to learn Estonian , if you do not learn it now and you still want to speak russian, well... you can move to Russia, where all speak Russian and you will be happy, and the Estonian people will be happy too = good solution!
heltensin 6 months ago
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LaFiesta22 3 months ago
Hi I am a Norwegian and have been to Estonia a few times the last years. I still notice that the russians that live in Estonia have still not learned Estonian .. ?!
There is 20 years ago now, you russians have now had plenty of time to learn estonian!
I have also been to other destinations in the world where russians also speak russian. Maybe they think that the whole world should speak russian, how arrogant!
heltensin 6 months ago
@heltensin you're ignorant and prejudiced, some people just don't have any need and motivation to learn estonian and it's not always their fault...
HomoCallidus 5 months ago
@Propoganda008 they dount want to learn !!!!!!
sherman630 6 months ago
@Treknn lot's of russian's speak estonian.
Propoganda008 6 months ago
I'm russian living in Russa and i'm trying to learn estonian. What i'm doing wrong, guys?
Oscillo88 6 months ago
@Oscillo88
that great !
but like, russian people who have lived here for 20 years and still cant speak estonian..
its just really weird and not nice in my opinion
rastamees 6 months ago
@rastamees It is because Estonians do not accept russians into their community. They keep them isolated. Estonians do not accept russian culture, they want Estonian russians to be like estonians.
Propoganda008 6 months ago
By the way, a lot of russians speak estonian.
Propoganda008 6 months ago
@Propoganda008
yeah its mainly the older people who just wont learn it
rastamees 6 months ago
@rastamees estonians are not nice to russians, why russians should be nice to them?
Propoganda008 6 months ago
@Propoganda008
what the fuck ?
i have always been nice to everyone
and all my russian friends are really cool people
why do you think we are not nice to them ?
rastamees 6 months ago 2
@rastamees do all your russian friends have a good job in estonia?
Propoganda008 6 months ago
@Propoganda008
yes
what does a job have to do with us being nice ?
rastamees 6 months ago
@rastamees who cares about your niceness if it is hard to get a good job in estonia for russian.
Propoganda008 6 months ago
@Propoganda008
what the hell are you talking about ?
rastamees 6 months ago
I am talking about discrimination of russians.
Propoganda008 6 months ago
@Propoganda008
there is none that i have seen
why do you think there is ???
rastamees 6 months ago
@rastamees i speak to my russian friends from Estonia. They tell me.
Propoganda008 6 months ago
@Propoganda008
then i have no words.
you could say the same thing about black ppl in the US
maybe its hard for a russian to get a job in estonia, because they cant SPEAK ESTONIAN ?
rastamees 6 months ago
@rastamees
that's the cover - language issue, no balls to shout 'we dont like russians'
mrReiseReise 6 months ago
@mrReiseReise
i have no problem with them myself, but the possible negativity is caused by the occupation, that they still deny. even after deporting tens of thousand of estonians, who they considered to be a threat(military background etc), to siberia, to work(die) in inhumane conditions.
its also the fact that some of them dont consider themselves as estonians, but still russians. and they wont learn our language even after living here for decades, which is just insulting.
rastamees 6 months ago
@rastamees
Not mentioning the snitches who like the neighbour's farm, I think it's silly to oppose deported estonians to russians, I'd rather call it system slaughtering its own people. While I understand Estonia might have developed at a faster pace had there been no occupation, Estonia as part of the USSR was the frontier and one of its most developed regions.
Even in non-democratic USSR Estonians were not forced to become Russians, why do it backwards?
mrReiseReise 6 months ago
@rastamees
russian wouldnt learn perfect estonian anyway, accent always remains.
Either way, Russian language is being destroyed, government showed its attitude with the monument, why would you expect Russians to be willing to integrate? If you tell the guy in vid that he would be welcome only if he was white, do you think he would want to become white? No, he wouldn't.
mrReiseReise 6 months ago
@mrReiseReise
russian language is being destroyed ?
IT IS TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS, MANDATORY IN LOWER CLASSES
seriously you have no idea what the situation is, you dont even fucking live here so how can you assume you know more ?
what attitude did the government show with the monument crap that was blown out of proportion ?
that we dont like russians ? NOT EVERYONE IS A FUCKING RACIST YOU DUMB FUCK
like jesus, we have russians who cant speak proper estonian IN THE GOVERNMENT ITSELF
seriously, stfu
rastamees 6 months ago
@rastamees
1) you don't have russians in central government
2) I guarantee that new programme to study subjects in Estonian will result in poor knowledge of the subjects
3) The national examinations in Russian have been becoming easier, it used to be 600 word essay only, now it's 400 word essay and answering questions to a few given texts(a task for imbeciles)
4) Gj making teachers of Russian study Estonian
5) Monument was an inflamatory move. Could have been solved in a peaceful reasonable way
mrReiseReise 5 months ago
they major of our capital Tallinn get al lot of influence from russia(money i guess to buy power or keep it): like building russian church for instance or renovating russian schools before estonian....
t666nu 5 months ago
@t666nu
Renovating schools? Do you happen to know that some of school's buildings were sold in order to afford the renovation and later on to pay for rent? It's a major theft by Savisaar and his buttbuddies.
Now lets face the facts - estonians schools are in a lot better condition.
mrReiseReise 5 months ago
Русский язык значительно богаче и выразительней чем эстонский. Поэтому единственная мотивация к изучению это то, что язык сделали государственным.
MyFeldsher 6 months ago
@MyFeldsher это для русских он богаче, но это не причина чтобы его не учить. Я думаю причина в том, что русские не очень интегрированы в эстонское общество.
Propoganda008 6 months ago
to be honest... I hate every russian person who live in estonia and can't talk in estonian... like realy.. if you live here then you have to talk too when you don't like estonian the go back to russia
AddictedxtoxPoison 7 months ago
@AddictedxtoxPoison may be you need to have sex, then everything will be ok?
Propoganda008 6 months ago
Sviiks!!yes you right!!and what about Azerbadzanians,afroamerikans who never learnt ower languege????they even speak that!!but have ower passport!!when i say TERE!!i hear y welcome how i you! WTF??????
MrMidnight09 7 months ago
Russians in Estonia should learn unique, lovely Uralic language: Estonian, instead of damn russian.
God bless the Estonians, they would hate mandatory Russian in Estonia.
Same shit for Finland, they should throw "Å" to junk, i mean get rid of mandatory Swedish.
kewelltr 7 months ago
moi je pense mon ami est tres bien. je t'aime ai täh vend!!!
noksu666 7 months ago
Он сказал "Motivated" раз пятьсот.. Если бы я там жил, я бы выучил.
gingerfish07 7 months ago
Russians dont want to learn estonian... :( And its hard to live in estonia when lots of ppl talikng Russian! It sucks!
Rp6ld 7 months ago
@Rp6ld Estonians don't accept them into their circles why would they learn Estonian?
Propoganda008 6 months ago
@Propoganda008 :) What are you doing then?
Rp6ld 6 months ago
i don't understand the video..
iidskuu 7 months ago
i hate russians and estonians
iidskuu 7 months ago
@iidskuu why?
Rp6ld 7 months ago
This is real problem.. hate russians
NappFilm 7 months ago
@NappFilm Why d'u hate me?
Oscillo88 6 months ago
@NappFilm Real problem of what? Estonian economy being a disaster? Estonian corruption?Unemployment? Discrimination against russians and other nationalities? Wake up, it is globalization.
Propoganda008 6 months ago
and what about Russians who was born in estonia????
MrMidnight09 7 months ago
@MrMidnight09 then they have 2 choices, to learn estonian language or get the fuck out of our country, gosh..
Sviiks 7 months ago
@Sviiks They have a lot more choices than you think. Trust me)) and one of the extra choices is you speaking russian. that's what you have left to do.
Propoganda008 6 months ago
@MrMidnight09 Per Estonians, they are nothing. I was born in Estonia, and when i went to estonian kindergarden, one of the teaches qiuetly observed when other estonian child bit me on my face. I still have scar on my cheek.
Propoganda008 6 months ago
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Rather have russians in estonia than monkeys like the creator of this video. You dont belong in either Estonia or Europe.
nilthgrim 7 months ago
@nilthgrim hahahhaah! I love you man.
laoshu505000 7 months ago 11
Your not right, and may be racist! At-least listen to what he has to say; He's not forcing his opinion on you, but sharing it with you! His quote: "I wan't to give my opinions to you." This phrase means he's not lecturing you, but wishes to share his opinion with you. Don't pull it out of context and take it so personal by getting racist and calling him a "monkey!" You shouldn't defensively feel he's trying to tarnish your native heritage name; or whatever relationship you have to Europe!
TheGodmode680 7 months ago
@nilthgrim what the hell is wrong with you?
monkidonkii 7 months ago
@nilthgrim fucking racist
MrIrons4life 7 months ago
@nilthgrim fucking racist
MrIrons4life 7 months ago
@nilthgrim what the fuck is wrong with you?
He is a really nice man not like those russian idiots.
armido110 6 months ago
@armido110 where did you meat russian idiots?
Propoganda008 6 months ago
@Propoganda008 in Estonia ,ofc there are nice russians also but majority of them are idiots
armido110 6 months ago 28
@armido110
I think that's fair for most nationalities, though. Not just russians.
mrReiseReise 6 months ago
@armido110 you can't say that, you're an idiot yourself.
HomoCallidus 1 month ago
I think people just fail to realize that Estonia has a large population of Russian immigrants due to the past and once it got independent, many continued to live there. If you lived somewhere all your life and then all of a sudden the place changed, you don't always have the option to move to another country or simply don't want to. Learning a new language isn't always that easy either, especially for older people or lack or money and etc.
RealityResurge 8 months ago
Russians just try to conquer Estonia by not speaking their language, just like they have done many times to many countries, Swedish also uses that same tactic. That's why I hate Swedish and Russian languages (btw I'm Finnish, not Estonian) but I just can't see how some Russian can live in Estonia thinking that it's still part of Soviet Union where everybody should speak Russia. People should speak Estonian in Estonia, not Russian. Unless if they speak it to other Russians of course
isokessu 8 months ago
@isokessu
1991 republic consisted of Russians and Estonians, they're not immigrants.
mrReiseReise 8 months ago
@isokessu they make up to 30 % you idiot, and i am half german and russian so i should know what i am talking about, Russian is an indo european slavic language while estonian is a uralic mongolian language, russian fought against mongolian so hard to get their independence and now they have to learn their language thats not good
HongKongKanto 8 months ago
@HongKongKanto Estonian is NOT a fucking MONGOLIAN language -.- it's Finno-Ugric language. Estonians were in Estonia BEFORE Russians. Mongols have attacked against everybody, raped few people and then left but Estonians are not Mongols more what Russians or anybody are. Actually Some Russians who live in Siberia are Mongols -.- and hundreds of years later when Soviet Union attacked Estonia, some of the Soviet soldiers were actually Mongols living in Soviet Union. * Estonians are not Mongols
isokessu 7 months ago
@isokessu Meyers Konversations-Lexikon says so, its clearly that youre a mongolian race your language compare to all other european languages like slavic, german or romanian are completely different, it really sounds like mongolian thats why russian hate to learn such a langauge as we fought so hard for our independence against mongolians, i think estonians are the russian children of the russian womens that were raped and you still using their langauge.
HongKongKanto 7 months ago
@HongKongKanto: First humans living in Finland and Estonia were Homo Neanderthals (who left Africa way before Homo Sapiens) but they died in ice age. When ice started to melt, Finno-Ugric people came in Europe from Middle-East actually before German, Greek, Russian etc. people ancestors and that was 10 000 years ago -.- when Mongols didn't know anything about Europe. When Mongols first attacked Europe about 2000 years ago, Finnish and Estonians had been here for thousands of years
isokessu 7 months ago
@isokessu And?
Propoganda008 6 months ago
@isokessu In America so many nationalities, they speak their own language. It is interesting, when I came to Estonia as a tourist, the seller at some small store did not want to help me because I did not speak estonian. then I began to speak english, she did not help either because she did not know english. How idiotic is that?
Propoganda008 6 months ago
if russians dount want to learn Estonian then they should get back to russia!!!!!
sherman630 8 months ago 20
@sherman630
why's that?
mrReiseReise 8 months ago
@sherman630 why don't you teach them? Give them a good job, not some construction job, bug good job. And how many Russians represent Russian community in Estonian parlament ? Probably none.
Propoganda008 6 months ago
Out of curiousity, why do you want to learn Estonian? I ask because it's a very tiny country with a small number of people who speak it compared to other languages...and it is a horrifically difficult language for a native English speaker to pick up in adulthood. I am starting to learn it primarily because I am of Estonian blood- my family came from Tallinn and moved to the US after WWII. Do you live there now or something? Or just like it? It is beautiful and unlike most other Euro. languages!
sonbuhitsunei 8 months ago
@sonbuhitsunei
u should look more of his videos then u will understand that he is learning many languages .. a lot and estonian is just one of them
klaabu99 8 months ago
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I live in Lithuania for years, but I'm a russian speaker. I'm motivated to learn English, I'm motivated to learn Italian, I'm motivated to learn Japanese, but I'm not motivated to learn my own country's language. And honestly speaking, fuck it :P Lithuanian with its prehistoric grammar just ain't worth it.
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utsukushiiOto 8 months ago
russians in estonia are like spanish in the us, aside from cheap labor and stealing your tv they arent good for much more
hazarada 8 months ago
@hazarada are u sure they are spanish? .. u know spain is far from US ... and it's not so cheap labor there :P
klaabu99 8 months ago
@klaabu99 where do you think mexicans came from?
hazarada 8 months ago
@hazarada
where do u think americans came from?
klaabu99 8 months ago
@klaabu99 england, france and netherlands mostly, go back to school.
hazarada 8 months ago
@hazarada
u missed point of my question :P
klaabu99 8 months ago
@klaabu99 which was?
hazarada 8 months ago
@hazarada
International organizations usually report that 9%-17%of the country's population is White. Most of these are the descendants of the Spanish colonial population called criollo. - from wikipedia
and u forgot to add that lot of americans came from spain too ...
klaabu99 8 months ago
@hazarada
International organizations usually report that 9%-17%of the country's population is White. Most of these are the descendants of the Spanish colonial population called criollo. - from wikipedia
and u forgot to add that lot of americans came from spain too ... oh and u forgot africa :D
klaabu99 8 months ago
@klaabu99 your average caucasian yankee has about as much spanish blood in him as he has chinese. Sure there is some but nowhere near enough to call them descendants of the spanish. Besides what does your "point" have to do with anything? spanish is what you call an ethnic group, doesn't have anything to do with spain nor which area they currently occupy. if you dont understand english stay away from the "post" button k?
hazarada 8 months ago
@hazarada
Hispanic and Latino Americans are Americans with origins in the Hispanic countries of Latin America or in Spain, and in general all persons in the United States who self-identify as Hispanic or Latino.
mine ja paranda enda inglise keele oskust veel enne kui tuled teiste kallal õiendama .. hispanic pole sama mis spanish ...
klaabu99 8 months ago
@klaabu99
so your big point was picking on slang that you dont understand? you poor bastard, must be hard living with your brain capacity.. maybe you should go see what wikipedia has to say on mental retardation
hazarada 8 months ago
@hazarada
what a dumb joke, if you try to stereotype, don't take ideas out of your arse
mrReiseReise 8 months ago
@mrReiseReise what a dumb comment, if you try to criticize, don't come off as a whiny whore
hazarada 8 months ago
@hazarada
that many comments for one vid definitely emptied your creativity
mrReiseReise 8 months ago
@mrReiseReise well you had none to begin with
hazarada 8 months ago
@hazarada
have a cookie
mrReiseReise 7 months ago
@mrReiseReise have a hug
hazarada 7 months ago
@hazarada well, if they got paid better, may be they would not steal.
Propoganda008 6 months ago
Actually, it depends. In Estonia Russians make up about 30 percent and in some places they make up the majority of the population, so they naturally would not learn the Estonian language (at least the older generation). Meanwhile, I live in Siauliai (Lithuania), where Russians make up only about 10 percent or less. So almost every Russian can speak Lithuanian, no problem. It only depends on relative numbers, not because Russians were supposedly arrogant or nationalistic or similar nonsense...
zzukizzz 9 months ago 10
Yes, it's necessary to be able to communicate in the language of the country you live in. But what about discrimination of the Russian-speaking minority (namely, no citizenship for them, ban of Russian cable TV, Russian schools), condemned by the Council of Europe and human rights organizations? There are Russians (mostly elderly ones) who just can't possibly master a Baltic language. And yet there are some Estonians who pretend that they don't understand Russian (which they actually do). Peace.
Trashmouseboy 9 months ago
@Trashmouseboy
sry to say but trashmouseboy is talking trash right now ...
1. estonia can't force them to take estonian citizenship ... to get citizenship in russia there are basicly same rules as estonia have
2. i'm estonian and i can watch at least 10 or more russian channels in cable tv .. and there is option to get a lot more russian channels
3. what about russian schools???
and belive me there is ppl on earth who don't speak russian .. even in estonia
klaabu99 9 months ago
@klaabu99 For more info on all of these issues, check out Wiki. "Knowledge of Estonian language and history were set as conditions for naturalization". Knowledge of Russian history & language isn't necessary to get Russian citizenship. Since 2007 Russian schools are being reformed. There are Russian communities in Baltic states and it's necessary to provide equal rights for them. Deal with it. B)
P.S. I mean no offence, dude. I'm from Siberia, trying to learn Estonian among other languages.
Trashmouseboy 9 months ago
@Trashmouseboy
there is no history test for 10 years already, and language & constitution test - most countries have it even russia ... u have to update u info about russian citizenship
yeah russian schools being reformed to give russians equal chances to get into university after school .. and russia should support education in russian as estonia does with teaching estonian language in regions in russia where lives lot of estonians ... pls find out a bit more about school reform in estonia
klaabu99 9 months ago
@klaabu99 Cool then! Thanks for the info. In fact, in my city knowledge of Russian & Russian constitution is a pure formality for quite a few categories of people who would want to obtain Russian citizenship. And the last thing I want is (God forbid) preventing Estonians from communicating in their language in Russia (or elsewhere). ^_^ Peace out! =)
Hope to chat with you in Eesti someday!
Trashmouseboy 9 months ago
@Trashmouseboy Finally! No, estonians can't discriminate anyone, They are Saints.
Propoganda008 6 months ago
Muslims have a peculiar belief that any piece of property that was once theirs, bought, borrowed, or stolen, is forever muslim. Slavs must have the same system. Other than an extreme cultural diference, Estonians and the other Finnic people, have had to endure a thousand years of Russian perfidy. So far from God, so close to Moscow.
cygmx 9 months ago
@taurus1337
im sorry for saying that .... what i meant was most of the russians (incredibly racist, i know, but i consider it more a fact then speculation).
for you all i have to say was that how do you even know im estonian, for all you know i could be swedish ..... dont talk about things you dont know are true.
i just commented on status not texture. i have nothing against russians and for the most part your argument of me dying being a slave in the soul is incredibly strange. smiley face
zebradogxp 9 months ago
Im 13 years old and i live in Estonia for all my life, Im half russian half estonian and i know estonian very well because im in estonian scool and i have estonian friends.
and i very like your hat!:)
janeck123 9 months ago
i'm Estonian!Thx for that you said thanks to you now more and more humans know about Estonia!!!
mr7777leon 9 months ago
Please dont listen to people who say dumb things.It is realy cool that a person in America learns estonian.I hope you will visit us someday.
People keep saying that ohh you dont get job in estonia and that prizes are high etc.These are the people who are lazy.It is NOT hard at all to get a job in estonia if you have a brein and you are not lazy.In my opinion estonia is a beutifull small country where im proud to live in :)
Mihkellt 9 months ago
@Mihkellt "it's not hard to get a job in estonia" - is that why so many estonians like to work in Europe? Or may be is it not hard to get a job for PURE estonian?
Propoganda008 6 months ago
@Propoganda008 The thing is that people have way to high expectations on the payout.People hope to get better life outside the country thats why so many leave.
Mihkellt 6 months ago
How many languages can you speak?(I'm Estonian)
Raiiner55 9 months ago
I totally agree with you. They are not motivated enough because they can get by with speaking only russian. Most of the people who lived here during the times when Estonia was a part of the USSR know russian, but that generation is getting older and soon enough will die out. The younger generation of estonians finds it really hard to learn russian, mainly because there is really no language enviornment. We are taught english from a very early age, but russian comes much later.
Kurgipurk 9 months ago
Of course there is no motivation as the russian media and society is always there. Anyway.. Mr Pigi, Räägi siis eestti keelt ????!!!!!!
santarter 9 months ago
@santarter ma raagin essti kelt, aga ma ei taha.
Propoganda008 6 months ago
There are more and more Russians that live in Estonia and don't speak Estonian -.- I visited Narvav yesterday (i visited my relative) and got beaten up because i don't speak Russian (by some assholes who appeared to be asking for some smoke). All i hear in the streets is Russian, It just pisses me off, i dont know if im living in Estonia or Russia. The posters and advertisments are also in Russian (though their in Estonian aswell) but the national language is Estonian.Just wanted to make mypoint
10dohman 9 months ago
in narva live russia people because this town is close russia
i dont speak english very good
maikfu 9 months ago
@maikfu
there is so few estonians in narva because after WW2 it was forbidden to ppl who was evacuated from city by germans to return
klaabu99 9 months ago
@10dohman these russians are left by estonian government. What do you expect from them? Kiss your ass?
Propoganda008 6 months ago
Hey dont mind the stupid ignorant racist comments - all racists can suck my dog's big shlong!
I liked your other video of the russian language!
Check out my russian accent video :)
watch?v=gKcsG3mmv60
Mitsu25fwd 9 months ago
@FridgeNatious I was just trying to have some fun and be friends with him. I hope he accepts my friendship despite his experiences.
laoshu505000 9 months ago
@laoshu505000 That's really bighearted, most russians here really don't know estonian, respect to what you do and how you think!
sass666 9 months ago
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we estonians even have to learn russian at school and they couldnt learn estonian
vase177 9 months ago
we estonians even have to learn russian at school and they couldnt learn estonian
vase177 9 months ago
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stupid nigger parasite.
beeqool 9 months ago
@beeqool Ouch..that hurts -_-
laoshu505000 9 months ago
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@laoshu505000 lets be honest. u crisize russians in estonia while niggers are hated in white countries where they reside. so russians are like white niggers. so if youd live in estonia youd critisize yourself? so be real niggers arnt welcomed a cent more in any white countries as russians. dooooh mister monkey nigger.
beeqool 9 months ago
@beeqool Yes, you're right. I'm sorry to hear that you've had some bad experiences. When I get to Estonia, let's hook up and have a cup of tea or something. Take care man.
laoshu505000 9 months ago
@beeqool fucking faggot shut up fucking chienese bitch! @Iaoshu505000 dont listen him!
janeck123 9 months ago
Only Russtonians understand my Estonian , Estonians will almost always start to speak english with me (without missing a beat ). Linguistic integration is well under way....and I might add that hundreds of thousands of Estonians have at least one or two Russian ancestors.
permanentkick 9 months ago
I understand what you are saying but some things still bother me. I have a lot of friends who don't speak estonian and live here and it's chill. But when you are buying a burger in estonia and the lady doesn't understand what you want on your burger cuz she only speaks russian. that's not cool... And I don't get a job cuz I don't speak russian? wtf
bigbud4sure 9 months ago
@bigbud4sure well, dont buy a burger there then. Vote with your feet.
Propoganda008 6 months ago
you dont understand.. you need to born here to understand.. understand russians, what bad people they are.
Dungeonn 9 months ago
@Dungeonn I was born in Estonia., I am not bad, and I am Russian!
Propoganda008 6 months ago
Russian in Estonia is different ? Because if there is no more place for Russia we have to go there because it's in Europe Union.
Soudavolstviem 9 months ago
actually some of them are trying to learn.......estonians can speak russian and english
ints85 10 months ago