That's because the issue with Modernism is that God does or may not exist AND INTERACT with the world. Modernism is determinism, that's why science can work and come to conclusions IF ALL VARIABLES ARE KNOWN...this assumes variables don't exist that can't be figured out.
I guess I shouldn't say "purpose." If there is a God, then reality would be ordered, because that's the classical philosophical description of God. This was a "basic" primer to philosophical worldviews...there can be overlap. You can be a combination of modernist/postmodernist, but you also have issues then justifying how you can know God exists and things have purpose, or you postulate a God who isn't really God by the definition of "pure being."
Thanks for the reply. Sorry I didn't mean to be picky, I have heard the statement from theists and was just thinking that you might provide a justification for it, as I don't see it myself. I realise you were not stating it as your own belief.
While I am a theist, I think the issue with purpose is that your existence had its essence in the mind of God from eternity...that's what essentialism deals with. Hence, you do have a purpose, and it must be good (again, based on philosophical definition of God). Many of the arguments for God's existence have been hijacked by parody religions, but they fail, as their gods don't fit the philosophical criteria (i.e. spatially located, etc.).
Yeah, sorry about that. It was the first time I tried using the demo version of this program for power point slides and I don't think I did it too well. Live and learn :-).
'God does exist' doesn't necessarily imply that existence has a purpose.
hilbert54 2 years ago
That's because the issue with Modernism is that God does or may not exist AND INTERACT with the world. Modernism is determinism, that's why science can work and come to conclusions IF ALL VARIABLES ARE KNOWN...this assumes variables don't exist that can't be figured out.
Paleolutheran 2 years ago
Sorry I fail to see how that addressed my comment.
If there is a God then existence has purpose.
What is the justification for that statement?
hilbert54 2 years ago
I guess I shouldn't say "purpose." If there is a God, then reality would be ordered, because that's the classical philosophical description of God. This was a "basic" primer to philosophical worldviews...there can be overlap. You can be a combination of modernist/postmodernist, but you also have issues then justifying how you can know God exists and things have purpose, or you postulate a God who isn't really God by the definition of "pure being."
Paleolutheran 2 years ago
Thanks for the reply. Sorry I didn't mean to be picky, I have heard the statement from theists and was just thinking that you might provide a justification for it, as I don't see it myself. I realise you were not stating it as your own belief.
hilbert54 2 years ago
While I am a theist, I think the issue with purpose is that your existence had its essence in the mind of God from eternity...that's what essentialism deals with. Hence, you do have a purpose, and it must be good (again, based on philosophical definition of God). Many of the arguments for God's existence have been hijacked by parody religions, but they fail, as their gods don't fit the philosophical criteria (i.e. spatially located, etc.).
Paleolutheran 2 years ago
Surely you missed at least 3 possible answers.
4. I know God exists.
5. I know God does not exist.
6. I believe God does not exist.
hilbert54 2 years ago
How would these three answers affect the outcome objectively?
Paleolutheran 2 years ago
Do you mean would they be the basis of different world views from those you go on to list?
hilbert54 2 years ago
I mean would they affect objective reality.
Paleolutheran 2 years ago
I don't think anyones belief or knowledge affects objective reality.
I guess I must be missing your point.
hilbert54 2 years ago
Moves to fast to read properly
JRKelly123 2 years ago
Yeah, sorry about that. It was the first time I tried using the demo version of this program for power point slides and I don't think I did it too well. Live and learn :-).
Paleolutheran 2 years ago
Nice work! :o)
God bless!
Kristusljus 3 years ago