gardner engines clagg as well when they were cold - my dad used to be a bus drrver - AEC's, Bristols. when i was at school the school had a Bristol RE - semi-auto and an MW- crash box both had gardners the RE had a 6 cyl and the MW a 5 loverly noises but u cant beat the English Electric for start ups))))))))
@ryanla100 I suspect it's the fuel air mixture varying. As it fires (a bit) it runs the turbo up, and then the turbo slows down, waiting for the next proper exhaust pulse. As the fuel pump is in direct drive from the engine, it's effectively running for a different engine speed to the turbo. As the mixture varies, so will the power, hence the erattic idle until it's warm and firing on all cylinders. (This may be rubbish, but it's possible)
What makes me take extra pleasure from this is I know that any environmentalist watching will be seething with increasing anger, as more and more smoke plumes out Ha Ha
I don't claim to be an expert, but as I understand it, it's the rpm regulator that is affected by oil pressure, and thus over-compensates while the oil is cold. Not the diesel oil, but the engine oil...
not really cause no matter what if the oils alectronicaly injeted or pumped when its on the piston rods its veary thick whitch it wants to bog down then once that oil gets heated it satarts again then when the cold oil comes in again it will bog down and it does it till the oil heats. the eletronic injectors only help oil get through the tubes and into the motor without getting cloged.
Yes this is a 4-stroke; all EE diesels as far as I'm aware are 4-stroke and this is typical of old 4-stroke locomotive engines, even some of the old ALCOs will do this while they are warming up.
There were a very small number of EE class 23 "baby deltics" which used just one 1100bhp 9 cylinder napier engine. It was too heavy for the intended use, and so only 10 were built.
@MrJezza31 This is the trouble with the old Youtube comment system. I was commenting on the two stroke engines which were fitted to English Electric locos.
Its a common start up from what ive seen on the SVR in my time. Thats just cause these machines are left to stand for weeks on end and the 37 i was behind last week was smoking like this all day.
No, definately 4 stroke. 2 strokes are much smoother see class 55 deltic! Remember, it's probably idling at only about 200 rpm or less. It took these old style diesels a while to warm up to a smooth tick-over.
i think someones chimney is on fire
Synthematix 2 weeks ago
Imagine that crossing Belah viaduct 8-)
lewisner 4 weeks ago
Sounds like a unmuffled 1957 caterpillar D7.
You gotta love old school diesel engines...
UCSPanther20 1 month ago
Lovely :-)
irelandbloke 1 month ago
Started from a pallet of batteries by any chance??
DanielW118 1 month ago
I love the dual stacks belching black smoke.
gonetoworkbbackin5mi 5 months ago
I'd like to smell that smoke :)
DoubleM55 6 months ago
gardner engines clagg as well when they were cold - my dad used to be a bus drrver - AEC's, Bristols. when i was at school the school had a Bristol RE - semi-auto and an MW- crash box both had gardners the RE had a 6 cyl and the MW a 5 loverly noises but u cant beat the English Electric for start ups))))))))
burghill1979 1 year ago
sounds like its farting
randomkid21000 1 year ago
Is this one of the slug's she sounds very royston
wollyxl 1 year ago
TAKE THAT GREEN PEACE!
100peppard 1 year ago 27
Greenhouse effect - My arse!
100peppard 1 year ago 3
Sod climate change, I could watch and listen to 37's all day, lol
buckshottfonk 1 year ago
why dose it keep reving up and down?
ryanla100 1 year ago
@ryanla100 Either it's idling or trying to start.
BNSFSD40 1 year ago
@ryanla100 I suspect it's the fuel air mixture varying. As it fires (a bit) it runs the turbo up, and then the turbo slows down, waiting for the next proper exhaust pulse. As the fuel pump is in direct drive from the engine, it's effectively running for a different engine speed to the turbo. As the mixture varies, so will the power, hence the erattic idle until it's warm and firing on all cylinders. (This may be rubbish, but it's possible)
harley333man 1 year ago 2
when does it officially turn over?
fyi, i dont know jack about loco engines
Nightwing690 1 year ago
kopciuch
grzesioczek 1 year ago
Cooooooor lovely sound! Tractor power. Fantastic footage!
Geoffsmeg 1 year ago
What a beast, wish they were used more
EWS37109 1 year ago
What makes me take extra pleasure from this is I know that any environmentalist watching will be seething with increasing anger, as more and more smoke plumes out Ha Ha
1madaboutguitar 1 year ago
love it!! more british diesels on my page if your interested
NOMAD8459 1 year ago
the engine is english electric aswell
kratos32godofwar 1 year ago
i do hope bill oddies not watchin this !!
bugatti9000 2 years ago
@bugatti9000 or Al Gore LOL
whammydoom 2 years ago 3
I'd just like to see his face XD!
steamwally 2 years ago
what type of engine does this carry? it sounds radial..
Helicopterpilot16 2 years ago
Turbocharged V12
puziparrot 2 years ago
5*****
megatwingo 2 years ago
I don't claim to be an expert, but as I understand it, it's the rpm regulator that is affected by oil pressure, and thus over-compensates while the oil is cold. Not the diesel oil, but the engine oil...
zii1965 2 years ago
Ok thanks for the info,
I would love to be next to this beast while start up ..........
mckerraljamie 2 years ago
The erratic idle i understand is caused by heavy oil in the governor, has this now been overcome with electronic injectors on newer diesels?
mckerraljamie 2 years ago
not really cause no matter what if the oils alectronicaly injeted or pumped when its on the piston rods its veary thick whitch it wants to bog down then once that oil gets heated it satarts again then when the cold oil comes in again it will bog down and it does it till the oil heats. the eletronic injectors only help oil get through the tubes and into the motor without getting cloged.
nardp96 2 years ago
FUCK ME==! fix the engine ,its clapped out==!
22mail22 3 years ago
trust me that engine aint clapped out first time it had started in 3 years or so .
loco37674 2 years ago
Just unfurring it's tubes...
BigChris1998 2 years ago
The ones I drive at work usually throw a ball of flames out of the roof once in a while when they are this cold, so belive me, this is a good one!
thunderstruck154 2 years ago
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Pollution...
roooose16 3 years ago
Just think...the clean air act killed off steam!!
penybontshed 3 years ago
glug...glug....glug..glug..glug..glugglug..glugglugglugglugglug
c2c2p1 3 years ago 3
Sigh !! I love an enviromentally friendly engine me!! Not a catalyst in sight. Brilliant! Smoke on......
landyman110 3 years ago
sorry is this a deltic
eniquity123 3 years ago
Nope, this is a Class 37 'Growler'. The Deltics were Class 55s.
TrainBusJaguar 3 years ago 10
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this is a 2stroke its dirty, 4strokes are clean. 2strokes are more powerfull than 4strokes.
eniquity123 3 years ago
Yes this is a 4-stroke; all EE diesels as far as I'm aware are 4-stroke and this is typical of old 4-stroke locomotive engines, even some of the old ALCOs will do this while they are warming up.
douro20 3 years ago
Have you forgotten the English Electric class 55 Deltic? that was a 2 stroke.
The large amount of smoke, is un-burned fuel.
smiffy1071 3 years ago
correct, I think the class 55 was the only mainstream UK loco that used a 2 stroke
mrspivvy 3 years ago
There were a very small number of EE class 23 "baby deltics" which used just one 1100bhp 9 cylinder napier engine. It was too heavy for the intended use, and so only 10 were built.
smiffy1071 3 years ago
oh yes, of course. I've never seen one
mrspivvy 3 years ago
English Electric loco but a Napier engine.
Eccles71B 2 years ago
The engine is English Electric in the class 37. The class 55 Deltic loco's were built by English Electric but had Napier engines.
jbhell27 2 years ago 3
@Eccles71B no no english electric engine!
MrJezza31 1 year ago
@MrJezza31 This is the trouble with the old Youtube comment system. I was commenting on the two stroke engines which were fitted to English Electric locos.
Eccles71B 1 year ago
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lol @ the enviroment! GJ train u prob killed 2 endangered specess good on ya
999jefro 3 years ago
Its a common start up from what ive seen on the SVR in my time. Thats just cause these machines are left to stand for weeks on end and the 37 i was behind last week was smoking like this all day.
andysim212 3 years ago
why is the tickover so erratick like its only firing on a few cylinders ?
i understand its cold but diesels dont normally sound so groggy ?
are these 2 stroke ?
mckerralj 3 years ago
No, definately 4 stroke. 2 strokes are much smoother see class 55 deltic! Remember, it's probably idling at only about 200 rpm or less. It took these old style diesels a while to warm up to a smooth tick-over.
smiffy1071 3 years ago
The erratic idle, is due to cold thick oil in the throttle governor. Oil gets thinner as it warms up, and so the idle will become more even.
smiffy1071 3 years ago
Yeah Baby. "Thrash Queen II" You know it makes sence!!!!!!!!!
thunderstruck154 3 years ago
Thats idling clag, not thrash.
dempsey088 3 years ago