Rachel Maddow Discusses the Michele Bachmann Inspired, Hate-Fueled Murder of Census Worker

[baigandine]

The Census is Constitutionally mandated.

[gombis666]

FYI: Authorities eventually determined that Sparkman's death was a suicide, staged to look like a homicide.

[JonahtheFigPucker]

@gombis666 Yeah, and the SAME Kentucky KOP Klan PIGS decided that when Rand Paul had Lauren Valle STOMPED by your Koward Kentucky Komrades that she was the one who assaulted all three of the Big Brave TeaTard Fucks and the hundreds of equally BRAVE TeaTard Fucks who stood around making sure nobody interrupted. Why don't you get your fucking news from some other source than DumFOX? Your Fellow Pigs said suicide and we have to believe their BIASED report? Fuck them and you and YO MOMMA bitch!

[gombis666]

@JonahtheFigPucker - What I posted was a fact. He hung himself and made it look like a suicide because he wanted to ensure his family got the insurance pay out. What does fox news have to do with it? lol. I followed this story pretty closely.

[splicedenergy]

So the lying deluded loser blocks me so that I cant call bullshit. Well

[splicedenergy]

@Phenylalanine22 The 7 principles of biology cannot be a formula and conjoin to be biological sciences if evolution we not true. You are a liar and deluded and you tried to take me as a fool. I got news for you, I am not a fool. Liar, loser, ass. I'm done

[pbrskater26]

Basicly to reject evolution, we would have to reject all scientific advancements from the 20th centorey, which is what creationists wont, to go back to the dark ages, rely on faith to heal all wounds.

[pbrskater26]

I'm liberal, I shoot guns, I hunt! I dont go along with all of the far left or right. To me Bachmann is too much like sarah palin, like bush and Ronald Reagen, Backmanns trying to shuve the right wing christianity down everyones throught. I dont wont Intelligent deisgn or creationism in schools, I dont wont womens rights taken away to old world religious theology.

[Phenylalanine22]

@pbrskater26 Clearly you don't know anything about politics, nor Christianity.

[pbrskater26]

@Phenylalanine22

I do, I grew up in a christian family, I just went a defforent path, once I took my first biology corse, I relised that all the creation stories dont add up scientificly, why there are deforent variations with in species and how those variations are perfectly adapted to a specific envirnment. Creationist theology dose not explain that, but so meny people hold on to an old world theology, it's intellectualy lazy.

[Phenylalanine22]

@pbrskater26 It's clear to me you don't know much about science either. I am a biology major and chemistry minor and can conclusively say that they can coincide without conflict. To a Christian, Science is the understanding of God's creation. Its where theory comes into play that there is conflict. Just because a Scientist or teacher says its true doesn't mean it is. You shouldn't believe everything you hear.

[pbrskater26]

@Phenylalanine22

I understand alot about biology, creationism dose not explain how biology works, they doint even use the scientific method. Creationism says that all life was already fully formed, there was no decent with modification. Creationism prefers faith in the authority of the bible, no matter what emperical scientific evedance is agienst it,

[Phenylalanine22]

@pbrskater26 Nor does Biology explain how creationism works. You can't really understand one without the other in terms of origin of life and life itself. The scientific method is extremely flawed and is merely based on the "best guess." So who is to say wether or not its true? Creationism states God created each individual species rather than all starting as a single cell. Adaption obviously still occurs from the point when God created that species.

[pbrskater26]

@Phenylalanine22

I dont go along with creationist logic, if the natural world cant explain everything, then it had to be supernatural, or god did it. Thats intellectualy lazy. Basicly to reject science for religious authority is a bad thing. But, I will level with you, if there was a god, how do you know he did not spark the process of evolution, then let nature take its corse.

[Phenylalanine22]

@pbrskater26 There is nothing intellectually lazy about realizing we don't know everything. In fact its more ignorant to say we have an explanation for everything because we simply don't. For somethings we will just never have an answer. Before life existed, God created laws necessary for life to thrive. There is statistically more of a probability of life being created with a God than without one.

[pbrskater26]

@Phenylalanine22

I hope your not talking about pascals wager! I never said that scientists know everything, thats the beauty of science, that we still have things to descover. I'm saying that science, more then religion gave me a better intellectual construct on how our world works, morality, some of my disibilities, ect. With out darwins descovery of evolution, how organisms changed over time, we would not have alot of the medical advances we have, we would still be in the dark ages!

[Phenylalanine22]

@pbrskater26 I'm not referring pascals wager. I'm talking about mere probability. Yes science is a great thing, but the only problem is science is being taught wrong in schools. Science was never meant to prove things, but rather add to our knowledge of things we know. Theories such as evolution are cannot be labeled as fact. Theories are always changing so who is to say wether its right or wrong. By the way, there is no evidence on morality of evolution only speculation.

[pbrskater26]

@Phenylalanine22

Evolution is more science then creationism or intelligent design, which is creationism re-writen to sound more scientific but it's not science but religion. If it wornt for evolution we would not understand AIDS, think if we still went along with creation science, we would probebly say somthing like well this is just part of gods wrath, we can just pray for people to get better, if not thats just gods devine will. Thats what i'm trying to get acrossed!

[Phenylalanine22]

@pbrskater26 Evolution is not really science based. It can not be directly observed or tested. I don't think theories are bad and should all be rejected, i'm saying they should not always be regarded as "fact" and should be looked at with caution to prevent close mindedness. That has not been the case for many years. It is also not necessarily evolution that helps us understand medicine or life, but rather our knowledge that has been accumulating since the beginning of time.

[pbrskater26]

@Phenylalanine22

Not derectly observed? what you mean, we see natural selection happen all the time, for example rattle snakes in texas are being hunted, so eventualy the rattlesnakes stoped rattling because a snake that rattles is a dead snake, thats selective pressure caused the snakes to adapt and pass on those traits. The dodo became extinct because we killed it off, the dodo was isolated and had no natural preditors, there was no selective pressure to develop ways to avoid preditors.

[Phenylalanine22]

@pbrskater26 I'm talkin macro evolution, big scale. Micro evolution makes sense, macro doesn't. We have not observed the evolution from a fish to a human. There is no evidence for that and its just stupid.

[pbrskater26]

@Phenylalanine22

Well, evolution is decent with modification, we all decend from a commen ancester, if thats not the case the evolution is false. Creationist do tend to tweak around words that scientists say. They dont look at homology! It's bad enough that they think the earth is only 10,000 years old, that species are fixed, that means there is no decent with modification all animals were fully evolved at the time of creation, then later they evolved over time by will of god or somthing.

[Phenylalanine22]

@pbrskater26 Yes I know what evolution is you don't need to keep explaining the same stuff to me. Your making your arguments as if its science vs religion. It's wrong to do that and that is not the way I see it at all. Science and religion are both used to explain each other. I don't know where you get your ideas of creationism because they are wrong.

We did not evolve from a fish or a single cell for that matter so i'm telling you evolution is false.

[splicedenergy]

@Phenylalanine22 DNA mapping shows that evolution is a fact. We share chromosome 2 with chimps who are our closest relative and that you cannot deny. A fact is a fact. If you accept DNA evidence in regards to relatives in a court of law you have to accept that chimps are our closest living ancestor

[Phenylalanine22]

@splicedenergy Evolution is not a fact! There is still so much more we don't know about DNA so it is impossible to make any conclusions only speculation. The information that our DNA may be similar to that of another species, is not deniable, however is deceiving. The data is highly interpretive and to jump to conclusions like that is ignorant and foolish.

[Phenylalanine22]

@splicedenergy Don't jump to conclusions so quickly. I am a Biology and Chemistry major. I am certain I know more Biology than a nurse would ever know. DNA is not as straight forward as you think. There is a huge difference in comparing the DNA of one species vs two different species. The research regarding similarities of DNA in humans and chimps is completely biased. Much data is excluded in order to skew the results in their more favorable outcome...

[Phenylalanine22]

@Phenylalanine22 Most of the data that was included includes genes that code for protein which are largely similar across most mammals. But what is not considered and also the reason you can't compare the DNA of two different species is because of gene expression and regulation. Humans are known to have far more of an intricate process for those two factors and is perhaps displays the distinction of humans and animals...

[Phenylalanine22]

@Phenylalanine22 without it, we would not have such a highly complicated brain capable of speech, consciousness, and predict the possibility of future outcomes. The distinction is too great to have been made by mistake due to the process of evolution. I don't buy it and there is no solid evidence for that.

[splicedenergy]

@Phenylalanine22 Now you are just a liar. You actually think I can't tell? You were wrong. Look, if you have to lie to maintain your beliefs just keep the lying towards yourself and no lie to others. It's immoral

[Phenylalanine22]

@splicedenergy Oh really? Please tell me what am I lying about or is this your last futile attempt at attacking me because you have nothing legitimate to say??

[splicedenergy]

@Phenylalanine22 If you were either one but yet claiming both you would know that the 7 principles of biology cannot work in experimentation without evolution being true. Period. Thats how I know you are a fucking loser who is so arrogant as to think you could fool someone, you are the fool. Stop lying and get the fuck out of here.

[splicedenergy]

@Phenylalanine22 You deluded lying tool, because the 7 principles of biology could not conjoin and formulate without evolution being true. You have no clue. You are sitting there and pretending to be something you are not just to make yourself feel better about lying to yourself. Loser

[splicedenergy]

@Phenylalanine22 First you would know that with the right starting elements, ribonucleicotides self-assemble naturally. You would know that evolution is the unifying principle of chemistry, biology, embryology, genetics, medicine, anatomy, microbiology, cellular bio, immunology, and I could go on but I know I would be typing for nothing since you dont know what I am talking about since you are a liar about being a bio chem major.

[splicedenergy]

@Phenylalanine22 Not to mention chem bio unifies also anthropology, paleontology, ecology and so on. You are a lying ass. And FUCK you by the way for thinking that since I am a nurse that I couldn't possibly be educated as much as a bio chem major even though they are both 4 year degrees at minimum. Yet, I did 6. You really thought you had me. Unbelievable. Keep lying to yourself. I call BULLSHIT

[Phenylalanine22]

@splicedenergy Again so quick to jump to conclusions. I have not lied about a thing. I think it kills you inside because you can't accept the fact that a Christian is educated. Your probably used to thinking they are all ignorant and when you come across one who isn't, you can't handle it. I didn't mean to put you down as a nurse and sorry if I did. What I meant was that a Biology and Chemistry majors go much further into depth of certain subjects relating to life...

[Phenylalanine22]

@Phenylalanine22 When you learn enough about Biology or Chemistry you begin to have a backbone and realize that everything your being bought is not always true. Don't get me wrong, I love science and I seek out to understand as much as I can. I look at science as God's creation. I don't need to reject everything in order to avoid conflict. In fact Science and christianity flow together. It is where theory comes in that I have a problem...

[Phenylalanine22]

@Phenylalanine22 If you want to get philosophical about it, Science is not meant to prove things, but rather add to a pool of knowledge and understanding. Many Scientists of today do just the opposite because they seek out to prove just so they can try to disprove creationism. Science is becoming the very thing it was not meant to be. I think that is just sad...

[Phenylalanine22]

@Phenylalanine22 I continue to look upon science the way it should be and was for many years until you get theses arrogant scientists that think they have an answer for everything. There is nothing wrong with theories, other than that they should never be looked up to as fact and should always be looked at with caution and the realization that there may be a better answer.

[JonahtheFigPucker]

@Phenylalanine22 Yeah, like the "Theory" of so called gravity. How did a murder, covered up by the Kentucky Kop Klan who are allied closely to the group who committed that murder, and the unwarranted stomp-down of a woman who dared to question one of their lower-case g gods Rand Paul relate to evolution, other than the apes in Kentucky have apparently inbred enough to outnumber actual humans?

[dwilkymilky]

@Phenylalanine22

Seriously? Creationism doesn't work, it's faith based. Cite some flaws in the scientific method. Also, do you believe your God is infinite?

[Phenylalanine22]

@dwilkymilky Evolution is faith based as well. Here is what is wrong with the Scientific method; The definition of a scientific fact is a repeatedly observed observation. That particular definition significantly reduces the validity of a scientific "fact" because no one can say without a doubt that that data is interpreted correctly. A theory can not be proven. It is merely the best guess that happens to be the most widely accepted. Now please tell me that you think there is no flaw in science.

[dwilkymilky]

@Phenylalanine22

The theory of evolution seeks to disprove your archaic reasoning that posits our coming into existence from literally "dust". There is scientific evidence that proves that solar systems age, how can you deny that 0+0 cannot equal 1! Do you believe God is infinite or finite? Either way you're wrong, there is no monotheistic God (Yahweh/Allah/Lord) just as there is no Son (Isa/Yeshua/Jesus) so quit applying your fantasy to others' reality, life is not a joke.

[dwilkymilky]

@Phenylalanine22

Yes, only believe the writings of Middle Eastern nomads from thousands of years ago through loosely translated plagiarized allegories and fables, nevermind modern breakthroughs and the multitude of lifetimes' dedicated to progress, this guy knows his stuff.

[Phenylalanine22]

@dwilkymilky If you knew anything about the Bible you would know that the book is God's word. Here is the common misconception... yes, the Bible was physically written by man but was inspired by God through the holy spirit to write exactly what He wanted.

In fact todays text of the Bible was compared to that of one of the original scriptures and there are striking similarities. The context of the Bible has not changed since thousands of years. That is fact.

[dwilkymilky]

@Phenylalanine22

I'm not here to personally attack or insult you like others, but I will not be insulted by somebody that thinks a book compiled in the Dark Ages holds more merit than The Odyssey or Beowulf, especially when modern day politics is the topic. Please, enlighten me as to how ancient Mesopotamian mysticism relates to your White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (assuming you're the type of person you sound like) everyday life please! I am curious.

[1tonyLoo]

Lefty women are not as pretty as women on the right and they're not that bright either...wonder why! Could that be ideology is making the difference?

[Hydrocodone]

Thanx for reminding us of whats important. MSNBC/Maddows blatant racism and hate speech won't fly. we're pulling all of our ads from MSNBC.

[MrCreightonian]

Rachel Maddow blaming Bachmann for this incident is about as fair as blaming Maddow for gay rights violence in california because she is a confessed dike.

[ClutchFan1971]

I heard this Maddow has a 12 inch cock on him

[richwfd]

@myOATHmyCREED Did he?? How do you know??

[xinecallaw]

@myOATHmyCREED The investigation(coverup) came to that conclusion based on BS, everything they listed as proof was circumstancial. Insurance policies are often purchased when people think they have poss. terminal cancer because you cant buy it after your dx. All he had to do was stand up to live, thats assuming he was conscious at the time, the perpretrator could have had to much trouble raising him and said fuk it. Bottom to top FED means NOTHING unless you know exactly how HE writes on himself

[ghostfacekhila]

Wow  RIP

[jcbruce2900]

This is stupid. How can you blame this horrible crime on Michele Bachmann? Bachmann simply pointed out that the 2010 Cencus is unconstitutional. How is that conspiracy to murder a census worker? You idiot.  Using your logic, you could murder the milk man because you mother is lactose intolerant. Grow a brain.

[threeddd33]

Well, as it turns out, the man who did it got the death penalty already. Now you have your justice! :-)

[OmarThePug]

I think you probably did it! lol

[chiawatha]

I don't think it is a coincidence that Mr. Sparkman was found on 9/12. I have no doubt this was fueled by right wing nuts like Michele Bachmann and anti-American rhetoric by Glenn Beck.

[tj505]

guess again you fool

[Smartassawhip]

You can Thank Fox News and Michelle Bachmann for the death of this man.

[jace0501]

stupidassadem. you can thank maddcow and your propoganda machine for his death.

[Smartassawhip]

You can buy into that if you want to... You are a softheaded republican so I don't expect you to comprehend anything that isn't on the back of a box of cereal anyway.

[jace0501]

try reading todays news, assuming you can read in the first place instead of being told what to think by Lord God Obomba and Rahm God Not With Us.

[Smartassawhip]

I get plenty of news and I don't get it from right wing blog sites either.

[jcbruce2900]

@Smartassawhip - Try thinking for yourself. And read the constitution once in a while.

[Smartassawhip]

@jcbruce2900 Try keeping up with current events instead of going back to a thread that is several months old. LOL

[gkent101]

@Smartassawhip you should change your username to smartasadip

[darwincity]

@Smartassawhip AND the deep contempt of anything connected to the government of which the American people are becoming champions of the world...

[verstwo2]

i can't wait to hear more about this...my bets is the teabaggers did it...or the butler.

[DukeofSanchez]

YOU LIE!