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  • What a load of deception and manipulations.

  • @IkarusKommt

    Could you please explain where you see deception and manipulations.

  • @Kanguruo "The grammar is not very similar to European languages" — the eo grammar is a calque of other EU languages.

    "it is easy to see, whether words are nouns, advectives, adverbs..." — it does not. For instance, it's not possible to see whether it's a noun, substantivated adjective or gerund.

    "Many people write poetry in Esperanto" — wastepaper does not become literature only because it's written in a certain language.

  • There's many wastepaper and translations. So eo has no quality literature.

    "2000000 people" — it's definitely overstatement. But even it's true, we see that eo failed as international language, due to quality issues.

    "artificial language" — it's artificial, AUXILIARY language. It will never be as good as real human language.

    "all languages are man-made" — wrong, languages are society-made. eo has no society, it's sterile and is to be forgotten, despite of the which real language rules next.

  • @IkarusKommt

    I'd like to know how many books you read in Esperanto to be able to judge that it has no quality literature.

    Thanks for showing us so clearly that you speak about something you know nothing about. Esperanto is a real human language, just that its history is not as long as other languages. Esperanto is certainly not sterile, it has a big community of speakers that influence its evolution.

  • @IkarusKommt

    Wastepaper? Have you read for example La infana raso by William Auld? Have you read Marjorie Boulton? William Auld was nominated for the Nobel prize for literature. You can write very bad poetry in English or very good, exactly the same in Esperanto some people write bad poetry, some are talented and write very

    good poetry.

  • A substantivized adjective is used as a noun, so what term do you use for words that are nouns or words that are strictly speaking not nouns but used as nouns?

  • @Kanguruo The thing is that natural languages, unlike eo, make clear morphological distinction between nouns and other noun-like forms. In eo, you canot determine what you see without a dictionary.

    I hope eo literature does not begin and end in Auld. Where's normal literature? Where's Twilight or Dark Elf in eo? Even shitty Harry Potter books are translated in most niche languages like Macedonian, but not in eo.

  • @IkarusKommt

    I think you are very confused about languages. Why would you need a dictionary to determine what you see? Learning Esperanto is so much easier than learning natural languages.

    We do have lots of translations in Esperanto: Tolkien's lord of the rings, etc. Harry Potter has been translated into Esperanto but if it has not been published it is just because of financial reasons

  • sounds interesting, but how many people actually speak it? six? maybe seven?

  • @GONNASLAPYOMOMMA

    It is hard to say exactly, but more like 2 million. It is used quite a lot. Look at Facebook for example and see how many friends Esperanto speakers do get. The nice thing is that there are some a bit everywhere. If you plan your trips in advance, for example, you can find hosts in about 90 countries, see pasporta servo.

  • @GONNASLAPYOMOMMA 10 000 persons actually

  • @GONNASLAPYOMOMMA 2 millions aprox... well thats what they said..

  • I love Esperanto but the noice of the mic makes me sick.

  • @Sennuba I agree with what have you said about God making languages, but after God made other languages, the languages developed furthermore - God did not create every language, and it is time we come together to strengthen the unity of mankind (look up the Baha'i Faith), and one way we can do this is one universal language - English is becoming the language of popular culture, but I believe that it is time schools start teaching Esperanto and that become our universal language.

  • @Sennuba my good sir, I do believe you're an idiot. As an Esperantist, and an amateur linguist(I only speak 5), I diagnose you as an idiot.

  • I like this language because of Red Dwarf.

  • @PhilNile me too! going to learn it now...

  • Dankon pro la prezentado. Gxi estis tre klara kaj facile komprenebla.

  • Why do we need Esperanto when we have English?

  • @LinkinBoyTV - Because not everyone speaks English and English is a very difficult language to learn as a second language. Also, English is not "neutral" and gives an unfair advantage to the native speaker. Esperanto is learned as an auxiliary language and gives one access to communicating with people all over the world because it can be learned quickly and easily. Oh ... and it's fun!

  • @LinkinBoyTV yes, mate. today we have English. as we yesterday had French, Latin and so on. tomorrow, who knows? well, will you learn that language?

    hyvästi!

  • For someone wo has no or only a limited idea of what esperanto is, this is probably a very informative video. Very good job!

  • Kanguro, I would like to say thank you for a very helpful film. I have just started to learn Eo and so am interested in your viewpoint

    Av

  • What kind of language is that !?! I hope they will not use it again !

  • I wonder who is "they"

    I am using it everyday to communicate with my friends from different countries. Next week we have a Zamenhof day with Esperanto singers from the Netherlands who will entertain us very nicely, I am sure.

    And why should they not use it again when it is a language that enables to communicate so much better than English which takes too long to be mastered.

  • @kd1only - Esperanto is over 100 years old. I've been speaking it with people all over the world for over 30 years.

  • What? An artificial language that is easy to learn was created to equalize the global community? Why haven't I heard of this? THis is the smartest idea I have ever heard!

  • @radbrent

    The Media likes to tell us about bad news, but not so much about good news. But on the Internet there is a lot in and about Esperanto. To start learning it, look for example at the free website lernu dot net

  • @Kanguruo Well thank you for sharing and helping me on my path towards enlightenment. I've told about 5 people about this since I've seen the video and they all though it was remarkably cool !

  • @radbrent - Esperanto is actually not an "artificial" language, but a "devised" or "constructed" language. An artificial language has no etymological roots. Klingon is an example of an "artificial" language. Every word in Esperanto comes from an existing language, mostly Latin, but also German, Greek, and other languages. It is not designed to "replace" any national or ethnic language, but to provide an auxiliary language to allow people to communicate without having to spend years studying.

  • haha 20.. Jerzy DUDEK!

  • @Sennuba Why can't you people keep your ridiculous damn deity out of everything.FUCK!

  • @Sennuba

    I believe in GOD, but even with the tower of Babel situation there has been change in language since then. Some have become more complex (American English for example.) Some have become easier such as creoles and pidgins.

  • Bona laboro!

  • Five stars

  • That is correct. When God mixed the languages at Babel everyone left with a personal language, which is why they had to flee with their families in different directions, and in isolation at least be able to get to know the language of one family member. Usually it was the mother. But then families conjoined into tribes, and the strongest man's mother tongue was taken, so for nations we talk about father's tongues in many languages.

  • @Sennuba

    Let's just say that I don't agree with you about the role of God in languages.

  • Did you understand right, that all children who are native Esperanto speakers are at least bilingual and some are trilingual. I can't see how it can be cruel. I've spoken to several of those children and they all seemed very happy about the experience and that it widened their world, etc. Research does show that it is very beneficial for children to be bilingual. And mostly in Europe there are meetings especially for children where they can speak Esperanto to other children.

  • @Kanguruo Couldn't agree more. Reminds me of a friend whose mother is British and whose father is Lebanese. They moved to France when she was still a baby, and now she speaks English, Arabic and French as if each of those languages was her mother-tongue. The babies' brains are like sponges, the more they learn, the more open to the world they will be.

    P.S.: I'd have liked to say that in Esperanto, but I'm still a beginner ;-) Thanx for the video btw

  • I've recently become interested in Esperanto, and I can see how it might be good as everyone's second language. But allowing it to become a child's native language seems disastrously cruel. If a child has a father who speaks German and a mother who speaks Chinese, better to let the child become fluent in both. Aside from the fact that almost no one speaks Esperanto, I don't think it should be anyone's first language. This reduces its political neutrality.

  • But you are right native speakers should be the exception and the aim is that most people learn it as a second language. There are nevertheless already now quite a lot of opportunities to meet other Esperanto speakers and therefore to practise the language, to make many friends, etc.

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