This is the type of Christian that stalker Innuendoh is, he believes in casting out demons and he even claims to have done so. What he doesn't know is that he is HARMING people with mental illnesses by claiming that they have demons instead of schizophrenia or Dissosiative Identitiy Disorder which are as real as heart attacks and NOT caused by demons.
If you accept the bible as the true word of God, then you must also find slavery, the stoning and burning of heretics, and the sacrifice of children moral as well. Otherwise, you aren't really a believer. You simply masquerade around for it, defending it because of your upbringing and/or culture. You don't need religion to believe that there is something greater than yourself.
@driekone Slavery is never encouraged in the Bible, and where it is tolerated, it is within strict parameters which insist on the proper treatment of slaves and the possibility of slaves to buy their freedom. Where followed correctly, 'slavery' under the mosaic law is more like an employment contract in most cases. There is capital punishment in the Bible for those who defiantly break God's laws within the theocratic community of Israel. Who are you to say this is wrong?
@neilmarcusrichardson However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
@neilmarcusrichardson Here is part of another one, since I cannot fit it....When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son.... (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT) and you can read the rest yourself
@neilmarcusrichardson Here's one of my favorites. When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
@neilmarcusrichardson Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
@neilmarcusrichardson Jesus seems okay with it too. The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
@neilmarcusrichardson Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)
@neilmarcusrichardson weasel words lol...slavery is not a mere employment contract at all or the word for servant would be used and it's not, the word for 'slave' and 'slavery' are thereby implicitly condoning this institution.
@driekone There is no child sacrifice mandated in the Bible. Indeed, one of the reasons God sent the Israelites into Canaan to wipe out the seven tribes there was because they were committing this very deed. The only thing close to child sacrifice is when God asks Abraham to offer up Isaac but he actually prevents Abraham from doing it at the last minute and provides a ram instead, showing that animal sacrifice is the appropriate method of atonement at that time.
@neilmarcusrichardson Apparently God is okay with child sacrifice if he A) sacrificed his only Son, as you believe that he did, and B) even considered to tell Abraham to sacrifice his child in the first place. If I was told to sacrifice my child I'd say "fuck you!" I don't believe in garbage like that. And to believe that suddenly God turned it into a Ram, is funny. Why is it that all this magic happened in the middle nowhere, around uneducated people who were illiterate? Think critically
@driekone God didn't turn anything magically into a ram, He provided a ram caught up in brush. God commanding Abraham to sacrifice his only son was a test of abraham's faith, the faith that Abraham had that God would provide another sacrifice other than his son if he followed through with God's request. Abraham did so and the ram was provided. Being asked to sacrifice his only son was one of many forshadowing symbolisms of what was to take place with Christ upon the cross. No magic there.
@driekone The definition of miracle is as follows - an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause.
Definition of magic is as follows - the art of producing illusions as entertainment by the use of sleight of hand, deceptive devices, etc. These are 2 completely different things, you're comparing apples and oranges so to speak.
@flcn92 Now you are simply playing semantically. Big deal. Okay, I'll conform to your word. But you should get the meaning. The fantastical events from the bible, or any so-called miracle (raising the dead, turning water to wine, walking on water, and so on) do not correlate with the world we live in. SO NOT MAGIC, but the things proposed in the bible has yet to provide any evidence for such fantastical ideas.
@driekone yeah how are these phonies.But you have to understand obviously none of the things you mentioned were done by genuine people of GOD.More freaks and lunatics like this lot.The terminology of how slavery is used and what it means in the context of those civilisations.Slavery still exists
If you have any interest to see whats behind all this besides the obvious.Check out total onslaught/amazing discoveries and also Bible answer man.
What I find funny about Christians is they claim that non-believers are so arrogant, yet there is nothing more arrogant than believing that a Supreme Being, one that supposedly controls the entire universe,has a vested interest in them specifically, and that if they follow all the rules, and praise this being, they will get eternal paradise. It's absolutely silly. Plus, I wouldn't want to believe in a God that is so jealous that he needs to be praised all the time.
@driekone Asking this, not being arguementative, but why does it seem arrogant for a believer to believe and proclaim that there is a Supreme God, something much bigger, more intelligent, and vastly more powerful than me? It's me saying that my existance is not meant to be a self-centered one, my existance is not about me. And if there is a God that created me, shouldn't that Creator be owed my praise. Make no mistake God does not NEED my praise or attention.
@flcn92 To answer this, it's because of the arrogance that Christians proclaim that they have the ultimate truth to existence. You don't hear this in science. On the contrary, they fully admit they don't know, which is why they investigate until they find sufficient evidence. Now, I am not saying that a belief in God holds arrogance. I am saying that a belief in a God of religion fosters arrogance. If you were to believe in the God of say, Spinoza, then the arrogance might die down a bit.
@flcn92 Here you are condemning the notion that God, who is as you say "much bigger, more intelligent, and vastly more powerful" than you, needs worship and is self-centred. It is a straw man to say that God *needs* worship as He (as the only necessary being) clearly has no need of anything from contingent beings he has himself created (see Psalm 50). Your view that self-centredness is a negative trait is something that comes right out of the Bible, not secular thought, as is your view of the...
@flcn92 ...transcendent greatness of God. I think you sound like more of a theist than you realise! Self-centredness is wrong in humans because it is idolatry - we are according worship to things that are not worth that much praise - ourselves. When God requires that we centre ourselves on Him, and says that He does things for His own glory, this is entirely fitting. For God to do anything for any other reason (ultimately) than His own glory would be idolatry, giving worth to something less.
@neilmarcusrichardson I don't see where you correlated what I said to mean that that I condone self-centeredness. On the contrary I thought I made it a point to say that for me to believe in a supreme God is me denying myself all together. That because He is my creator He deserves my full devotion and praise. I merely stated that God does not "need" our praise because He is God, He desires our praise and desires a personal relationship with his creation.
@flcn92 Are Historians ever confused about whether Abraham Linoln was the President of the USA or of Russia? No. Do mathemeticians puzzle over what the circumference of a circle is? (Which the bible got wrong by the way). You are missing the fact that your misinterpretation about Christianity and it's truth is the problem itself. It can never have justification about facts in the world.
@driekone Historians don't puzzle over things that are known facts, and mathemeticians puzzle over mathematical equations. It's what they do, where in scripture did the bible get the circumference of a circle wrong? I haven't mis-interpreted anything.
@neilmarcusrichardson Ultimately in the end we will all bow before Him and profess He is Lord. Says so in scripture "every knee will bow, and every tounge confess that Christ is Lord." To say that God is in "need" of our praise conotates that God seeks something from us that He can't do Himself, which if that is the case then focus is placed on our importance in Christianity instead of Him. See what I'm saying?
@driekone A big misconception is that Christianity is about following a set of rules to attain an eternity in heaven. Christianity is based solely on the belief that God loves His creation so much that He became a final sacrifice to atone for peoples sins against Him. But only after centuries of us trying to atone for them ourselves and God knowing that it wasn't good enough. And by becoming that sacrifice God showed us that He desires a relationship with us, not some medieval heirarchy.
@flcn92 Well first of all, why does God have to be Christian? What if the God of Islam is the one true God? After all, you couldn't prove that it isn't? It has to do with what culture you were brought up in, that's all. Also, by trying to define Christianity, as sort of an apologist would, you fail to observe the doctrine's real teachings, and the messages it really conveys. If it was truly about love, then the history of the faith wouldn't be marked with great death and violence.
@driekone Christianity exists on the beliefs and events that took place by Jesus Christ. Christ was the blood offering from God on peoples behalf to atone for the sins that we can't atone for. from the beginning of time yearly people had to make a sacrifice to God to atone for them for the year, they would take two goats, kill one, and take it's blood and mark the other one and set it free as the symbol of their sins being taken away.
@flcn92 You failed to address my question. It could be true that Islam has the truth. It could be true of any other religion. You can base nothing on facts. It's sheer belief.
@driekone I believe this is so because of what Christ states in scripture, "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father(God) except through me." I can base this on the facts that there was a man, born to a virgin, given the name of Jesus the Nazerene, who wrongfully tried, was found not guilty by the Governer, And though being innocent was crucified, laid in a tomb on a friday, and 3 days later on the sunday 2 women named Mary went to the tomb and found it empty.....
@flcn92 But the muslims believe exactly the way you do, insofar as Allah is the way, the truth, and the life, and they believe their scripture is to be followed (I thought you said there's no rules btw?). And that if anyone is guided astray from Allah, then they will suffer eternal damnation. So I am not content with your round-a-bout answer because as far as Muslims are concerned, Christians are wrong, and as far as Christians are concerned, Muslims are wrong, neither one of you can prove it.
@driekone No, Muslims do not believe the way Christianity does. They do not believe in a Christ or Savior that made the path to Heaven accessible without attempting to attain that passage ourselves. Christianity believes that there is nothing that we ourselves can DO to attain life in Heaven after we pass on. Islam and Jainism believe in one form or fashion that you can attain that either by yourself or by ritualistic acts.
@flcn92 You really are slow aren't you? I never said they had the same beliefs. OMG. I said that they believe the same "way" that you do. Now I really can see that your skills in reading and comprehension are terrible. What I mean is, they are just as passionate as you are in your belief system. Meaning, they believe just as much that their savior is the one true savior, not Jesus. So my point was, you cannot know that it is not the true savior for humanity, just as they cannot know this.
@driekone My skills in reading comprehension are just fine, you are attempting to compare Islam to Christianity in their belief structures. You said "they believe the exact same way Christians do, that Allah is the way, the truth and the life." Those are your words verbatim. If you meant to say that Muslims are as passionate about their beliefs as we are then that's what you should have said. But the belief structures are not the same.
@flcn92 No, Allah is thought of in Islam is how Jesus is thought of in Christianity. My whole point is considering that the two religions have their own separate saviors or prophets, yet they both believe that each of their own prophets are the the way, the truth, and the life, neither religion can ever know which one is correct. Are we clear?
@driekone All those events took place, that is historical fact. After that my faith takes over, just as the faith of the 11 remaining disciples took hold after Jesus appeared to them in the Upper room, on the Sea of Galilea, and on the beach, that's 3 accounts of Jesus appearing to these men and speaking with him days after He was confirmed dead, and laid in the tomb. He also appeared to the 2 Mary's shortly after they found the tomb empty. There's at least 4 accounts there. and several more....
@driekone throughout the New Testament, when descirbed as the Holy Spirit. This is where I base my faith that Christ is the way to God. The God of Islam didn't take my place in the punishment of my sins.
@flcn92 But you don't know that, nor can you prove it. Just because you were brought up with a Christian education in a Christian culture doesn't make your view right, because out there someone grew up with a Muslim education in a Muslim culture. Your argument here is fallacious again.
@driekone I wasn't brought up in a Christian culture or with a Christian education. My education is through public schools where now that is not allowed from fear of offense. The home in which I was raised was not done so by Christian morals or values, my parents are not believers. My arguement is not fallicious in the fact that Christ came to take my place in punishment for sins against God, no where in Islam does it say that this event took place.
@flcn92 It doesn't say that you half-wit! Why would the Koran say that the event took place? They don't believe in Christianity! You are dumber than I thought man, and for this, I can no longer carry on a conversation like this. We are simply talking passed each other, and you're comprehension in reading is so disadvantaged that I feel like I am wasting my time. Keep on believing what you believe, that's fine. Chances are through your faith-glossed lens, you will never think critically.
@driekone You can call me whatever you want, it's not going to hurt my feelings, I didn't say that the Koran would say that Christ died for them. I'm also not the one who tried to prove his point by comparing 2 beliefs based on 2 completely different belief structures. You can continue to insult me as much as you like when you don't have another counter-point. I feel as though I've made attempts to be civil in this discussion and respectful of your position while trying to explain mine....
@flcn92 I apologize for the name-calling. I don't mean to get that frustrated, but I am passionate about what I say, and I feel like I am concise about what I say, and I let my frustrations overwhelm me, but I know it's not okay to call names. I know this, not because I've been told so by some divine being, it just comes naturally that it's not the right thing to do.
@driekone Look I don't blame you at all for being passionate about your stance on these beliefs. So thank you for the apology, if you would like to continue discussing this issue with me I'd be more than glad to exchange email addresses. I think we've taken up enough of the comments section here with our debate. If not I completely understand and pray the best for you sir.
@driekone Therefore if you would like to end this conversation then I will respect that decision,or we could continue in a private avenue, email or private message but I will continue to live my faith and walk in confidence that Christ is the true way. I think it's a bit arrogant of you to presume that you know more about a faith you don't believe in than someone who is living out this faith.......
@driekone I encourage you to seek out the truths of the Christian faith objectively rather than with a critical or cynical heart. I pray that someday God will open your heart to His message, again I don't fault you for not understanding these aspects of the Christian faith. Good day.
@flcn92 Hate to say it but our public school system, along with our politics are completely laced with Christianity, whether anyone cares to admit it or not.
@driekone Our school system is not laced with Christianity, I don't care how you want to spin it public schools are places that over the last 20 years where Christianity or religions of any sort have been phased out by political correctness. Personally that doesn't offend me as much as you would think.
@driekone God saw that this kind of sacrifice was not sufficient as we are all guilty people. So as for His love for His creation, He became man, Jesus Christ, and would be that sufficient sacrifice to cover the multitude of sins that we commit. Now, the faith doesn't just rely on Christ's crucifixion but on the event that He rose from death, and ascended to Heaven as the symbolic "scape goat" that was used for every atonement up to that point.
@flcn92 You're too far gone. I am not asking for a history lesson from the perspective of a believer. It is precisely your premise of the existence of your Christian God in which I do not accept. I am not interested in discussing what God saw, because frankly, I don't wish to propound things of which I can never know. Religion is poisonous to any rational mind because at no point can a religious believer ever correlate his beliefs with actual events in the world in which he lives. Good day.
@driekone If that's the way you wish to leave it then I will respect your choice. I know you didn't ask for a history lesson but I felt it a bit necessary for you to know a little bit about the actual background of true Christianity before you go on claiming that it's about condoning violence and murder. I don't fault you for having such a hard time understanding my belief structure. Though it may not matter to you, I pray that someday God reveals Himself to you in a tangible way. Good day sir.
@driekone The start of Christianity as we know it didn't begin until the book of Acts in the new testament. Chronicling the period of time directly after the crucifixion and ascension. I know plenty about the history of what is true Christianity, it is a faith, not a set of rules and rituals.
@driekone I don't get what's not to understand about that. Christianity as it is known began after 33 A.D. The book of Acts is where you first ever read the faith called Christianity.
@flcn92 No you said it's not a set of rules, but then you talk about Laws of God. Use whatever term you like, but Christianity, just like any religion is full of rules, laws, whatever. DUH
@driekone Love is the reason Christ took the cross, Love is the reason God raised Christ from death, and Love is the reason Christianity exists. If you have truly read any part of the gospels or New Testament you would see that the true doctrines of Christianity are about spreading the name of Christ and the message of love, compassion, and freedom. 10 of the 12 apostles in the new testament died as martyrs for spreading Christianity at the hands of the same leaders who crucified Christ.
@flcn92 If you want to look at a religion that trumps Christianity on Love and compassion, just take a look into Jainism. It's actually where Ghandi got much of his wisdom, and Martin Luther King Jr. got alot of his wisdom from Ghandi. There is not one single way it can be misinterpreted. Oh but wait, that's heresy, according to the bible, that I am guiding you away from the one true God-if the bible is true, I should be punished by death.
@driekone The difference here is, Jainism is based on the belief that we ourselves can do something to actually attain a level of divinity. The thought that people, who have proven over the span of time over and over again that we are inherently selfish and at many times down right evil, can make ourselves divine beings through meditating on relative wisdom seems much more arrogant than believing in a Supreme Creator that deserves my faithfulness.
@flcn92 Name one documented incident of a Jain killing in the name of his or her religion. You can't, because if you actually read their doctrine there is no possible way that it can be misconstrued as to allow violence of any kind. Argument fails again.
@flcn92 Okay, and all my argument was originally was that Jainism contained more compassion and love than Christianity. If it didn't, then we wouldn't have a better result for compassion and love within the context of Jainism. Basically, I was showing you an example of why. You brought in arrogance, which I don't see how arrogance is compatible with compassion. It's really not so bad to believe in the power of oneself. In fact, Christians have to use the self to preach their doctrine also
@driekone Christians do not use "self" to preach the faith, if it were necessary to do so then Christianity would not be about denying dependance on oneself and we would tell Christ "thanks but no thanks, I can handle all this myself."
@driekone I made the choice to follow Christ and His teachings. I believe that I have had a personal encounter with Him, therefore I chose to live a life believing that Christ is the way. I don't think puppets have the luxury of a choice.
@driekone Christianity by definition of what took place on the Cross between God and us is Love(intentional on the capital L). You find Love and a God that welcomes you to come and be with Him, not a god that demands you do this this and this or you're condemned. You find condemnation through people's religion, peoples perversion of the Love that Christ came to show us. I don't mean to seem like I'm going off on you, but I just wanted to set some facts straight about the Christian faith.
@flcn92 Using the New Testament for an excuse for all the slavery and oppressive ideas the Christianity has brought to this world does not hide the fact that the bible itself is an extremely contradictory piece of work, jumbled and mixed up with mixed messages. So if the work was actually overlooked by God in all his omnipotence, and is supposed to be the word of God, you would think that he could do much better than causing a massive amount of confusion which caused many wars and violence.
@driekone I made no excuse for slavery and un-just wars, especially not behind such a thing as the New Testament. Don't confuse what Christians call the work of God to what is really the work of humans. Many wars in history after the crucifixion have been waged "in the name of God" that were merely forged by man's perversion of scripture. That's what I'm trying to convey, in the scriptures Christ is very black and white, the confusion comes by the ignorance of people.
@flcn92 Yeah, how did I know you would say that? There's no sense in having a conversation with you. All I was trying to point out is that given the scriputures we have, I am not impressed.
@driekone You can choose to believe that it's not worth keeping on a conversation of this matter, that makes no difference to me. You can choose to pick and choose single scriptures and read them out of context, by doing this you only perpetuate the point I made about the misconceptions of Christianity. You choose to read what you want to read and believe what you want to believe about it.
@flcn92 Here's where you're wrong about the confusion being simply with the people. John 15:6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch, and is withered; and they gather them (who's they?) and throw them into the fire, and they are burned." Sounds like some Jesus love to me. Wow. Also, Jesus tells us in the New Test. that he is not there to destroy the laws of the Old Test, but rather to "uphold them." So, Jesus seems to be okay with everything from the Old Testament. HELLO
@driekone John 15 in full context Christ is using the symbolism of vines on a tree to explain to His followers that He is the true messiah. As a branch that is attached to a tree is full of life, the branch not attached to the tree dries up and dies. If He is the true spirit of life then apart from Him we die. If we do not abide(or attach our hearts to Him) in Him we are dead. Context my friend.
@flcn92 Yeah, well you can choose to use Jesus' teachings as a metaphor. But you haven't explained why they are to be burned. Perhaps the burning of heretics, which we saw happened in the history of Christianity. What about Matthew's Jesus? He's full of fire and brimstone. And again, you haven't explained why Jesus wants to uphold the laws of the Old testament, and also how you can excuse the hideous aspects of the Old Testament scripture, and feel okay saying the bible is moral.
@driekone Ok, think about it, if a limb on a tree is not "bearing" fruit or leaves what do you do with it? You cut off and burn it, if it's dead to you then it's of no use to you. By using this as a metaphor Jesus is saying that He is the one who is sent by God to be the sacrifice, the key to eternal life with Him in heaven. All you have to do is accept the gift, and profess to people who don't know Christ as the Savior what God has done for them.
@flcn92 You think about it using rationale. I don't need to think about it theologically. You seem to think that your interpretation is the way that Jesus should be read by everyone. In a nutshell, everyone should accept a "metaphor" the way that you do. If Jesus was so great, why didn't he just say what he meant? He had to have known the chaos it would create, and the division of people. Let's face it, the bible could've been written much better than it was in order to enlighten us.
@driekone I can't fully explain why Jesus chose to speak in metaphors, and yes they are confusing even to the most educated believer. But I don't believe it diminishes the message. These people spoke in a much different language than you or I. I think of it as, how many times have we been told a truth, of any kind straight up no metaphors, and still chosen not to understand or believe it because it's not what we want to hear. If you truly seek the truth of Christ you'll find it in his parables.
@flcn92 How many times have you played the simple phone game as a child, and each child whispers something in the ear of the next child, as they all sit in a circle? By the time it reaches the end, it is never accurate.
@driekone If people would follow the scriptures, Christ's words are there in print. There wouldn't be any confusion. There once again you have proven my point in that it is people who are fallable with the faith, not God.
@driekone Written by people inspired by God. 2 Tim. 3 16-17 All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.
@driekone He's very clear about it, the gift was free on our behalf, if we accept that and profess our faith in Him for that then eternity is what we get. But if I am told about all the Christ did and what it meant and I choose to reject it and lead my own life apart from Him, then I will not receive the gift when I die that I refused when I was alive. That's where Christianity becomes a faith, it's not hard to believe and have faith in something I can see, touch, or taste.
@driekone As for the laws of the Old Testament you're refering to, you need to look back to Exodus when God gave Moses the 10 Commandments. That, is the Law Christ refers to. Christ also stated in Matt. 22:33-40 when asked what is the greatest commandment, the greatest is to Love God with all your heart, soul and mind. The second is like it, Love your neighbor as Yourself. These two are the greatest and foremost, on these two depend the WHOLE LAW and the Prophets.
@driekone The whole Law being 1. you shall have no gods before me, 2. you shall not make and worship false idols, 3. don't take the Lords name in vain, 4. keep the sabbath holy, 5. honor your father and mother, 6. do not commit murder, 7. do not commit adultery, 8. do not steal, 9. do not bear false witness, and 10. do not covet your neighbors household. The first 4 laws focus on loving and honoring God, the last 6 are about loving others. That's the Law Christ was upholding.
@driekone You may also reference the Sundry Laws in Exodus 22 and 23. As for excusing the hideous aspects of the Old Testament, you already disregarded my explaination that people are at the root of most heinous acts, there's not much else to attempt to explain. Unless you could be refering to Sodom and Gomorrah, which in that case was the people of those cities were indulged in murder, theivery, sexual immorality you name it. God sent a prophet to warm them and they rejected the call to repent.
@flcn92 Also, you don't have to believe in myths and take a literal reading of the bible in order to believe that there is something greater than oneself. You're simply accepting what organzied religion says about it without considering it for yourself.
@driekone When one is "arrogant", one is "arrogating" to oneself honours which one does not rightfully deserve. It is arrogant to presume that there is no Supreme Being governing this awesomely designed system and these phenomenally complex beings within it. It is arrogant to say that one knows better than the Bible, the most authentic, consistent, widely-attested, time-tested book every written. A Christian is humbling himself to accept God's view of the universe rather than his own.
@neilmarcusrichardson And you're a complete lunatic. Anyone that goes against scientific facts in the 21st century, and still believes that someone can be born of a virgin, and that someone's body can physically resurrect from the dead, is simply ignoring the way that the world actually is. Belivers cannot claim that these are facts. That's why it's called belief. You believe out of hope and comfort, because you are afraid to admit the fate of every man, which is death and nothing more.
@driekone I can not put full faith in science as absolute truth, every year sceince advances on a new discovery that requires revisions to discoveries that were previously thought to be true. That seems completely fallable to me, and it's very unsteady ground to base a foundation of belief on.
@flcn92 What are you talking about? Hey smart guy, that's precisely how we gained knowledge in medicine, astronomy, biology, geology, etc. I tell you what. Next time you get a serious illness. Don't go to the doctor, or better yet, don't take any of the recommended medicine-just pray and hope it all works out. Scientific theories are thought of as the same type of theory as religious ones--nonsense--gravity is a theory but no one would argue that it isn't true. Fail again.
@driekone I said that I can not put my full faith in science, I have no problem going to a doctor for medicine to cure an illness. But to say that science is the search for truth with neglecting what has already been told us through scripture through out the centuries just seems fallable.
@flcn92 It is the search for truth. What else do they do it for? We neglect what has already been said in the Bible because it doesn't make valid claims about the world. It may have a few useful metaphors in it, but there is nothing said in the Bible that prepares us for the modern world we live in. It is simply a ridiculous book for morality or truth. Just look at the hideous acts demonstrated throughout the text. There is no amazing prophecy about the internet, or a cure for cancer...
@flcn92 ...you would think that an all loving, omnipotent, omnipresent being would use the most important book of all time to tell us about the internet, cures for terrible diseases, mathematical equations which surpass anything else out there, etc. What do you find instead? Talk about heresy, not believing in other Gods, and other commandments, of which you don't need to be told are bad anyway. I don't need the bible to tell me that murder is bad. I simply know it is not naturally.
@driekone Why would an all loving, ominpotent(also means omnipresent) God care about a revealing prophecies about a trivial object such as the internet, that obviously does not honor Him or proclaim His glory? As for having to be told right from wrong, no people do not inherently just know right form wrong. As a child you didn't know it was wrong to lie until your parents caught you in one and told you it was wrong, you also didn't know it was wrong to steal, until you took something.........
@driekone that wasn't yours and only then did you learn about stealing. You didn't know it was wasn't right to hit or cause physical harm to someone until you did the first time. So no you don't naturally know right form wrong. You say you don't need them now that you are far along enough in life that you have been taught so, but at some point in your life you had to be taught what was wrong and what was right.
@driekone I'm sorry but that doesn't make any sense, when something it time tested that means it's been tried time and time again, from one year to the next and has either not been proven wrong or been proven that there is anything better than said product. It has nothing to do with whether or not people will let it go.
@flcn92 It makes perfect sense. It hasn't been proven either. Just because religious people gather on Sunday and preach and chant and sing and praise about things they believe to be true, fanatical things I might add, doesn't make it true. You cannot give me one ounce of solid evidence. You can only spew out theology. Well, that is not evidence. Why has science stood the test of time? Gee, maybe because it really has been repeated over and over again. Just because it has flaws...
@flcn92 Just because science has flaws, doesn't mean that the method of acquiring knowledge itself through science isn't accurate. Scientists will fully admit their errors, unlike Christians and other believers. In other words, you cannot pull up a scientific truth of today that has countlessly been tested as accurate over time, and say that it could be wrong. If we left knowledge to religious believers we'd still be living in the Dark Ages, or something just above it, making no progress.
@driekone Just as science continues to push the idea of evolution and a big bang theory without staunch substantial evidence proving that this took place. You can grill me on science as much as you want, but I will tell you right up front I am no science scholar nor will you see me arrogant enough to debate it against my faith. Scripture has never taken revision since Christ's death and the birth of Christianity, different translations yes but no revisions.
@flcn92 Why don't we all just own slaves then? Is that not a revision somehow. In fact, let's all just live like peasants and go back to being uneducated, and thinking the world is flat.
@flcn92 THey have substantial evidence for evolution. You just don't read anything else outside of your little circle of Christianity to know about it.
@driekone What ground hard evidence do they have, evolution has become an excuse to explain developements in nature that science was previously unaware of and are currently unable to explain.
1 Corinthians 2:4-5 My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the spirit's power. So that your faith might not rest on men's wisdom, but on God's power.
This guy is so ridiculous......... u know what I'm not even gonna keep going, I'll just let this phoney keep playing these people like a chess game. Always remember, in the end there's only one king standing and I guarantee it wont be this guy.
all religion is false. we are just a continuing part of life.. like trees and birds, like grass and the ever burning sun that shines down and gives life on this earth. wake up people! god is not real.
i think these people really want to believe it's true.....but don't test the lord they god, don't go around telling god and his spirit that he has to heal you and others.
I think shows like this should be against the law because it is fraud!
Why cant it just be one man,or woman just teaching about the word of God,and not pretending that they are God with all of their false healings and their installation of false hope into people,and who take 1/10(if i remember correctly) of peoples earnings for the church and their operations?Boy,the people who you can truly trust with God,you really can count on one hand,cant you?
Yea mate you need to rewatch this, you've got the complete wrong end of the stick . and Todd Bentley wasn't the be all and end all of everything. God was. Todd Bentley will never be the be all and end all of it. God will be though. Yea Todd messed up. He is human, we all do it. Bu the grace of God will never cease. His Love endures forever. When we surrender and humble ourselves to Him he will forgive us and fill us with the Holy Spirit.
"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
2 Thessalonians 1:
8 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
I'm not sure if anyone really pays attention to these videos or not.. but you guys need to realize this man is not a standard tie and suit type of guy. God created all kinds, and it IS possible for a person who has done bad things to be set free and forgiven. Have you forgotten that in the Bible Jesus talks about one sin being the same as another? Who are you to point fingers and judge this man. The man is light hearted and uses humor in sermons... whats wrong with that?
These people are satanists! Satan can heal and do wonders and signs, but these are false signs and will lead people to hell. No one will tell me to repent on here about these so called men of God. They are blasphemers and the worst type of sinner. They will burn in hell unless they repent and turn toward the true LORD and saviour Jesus Christ for mercy.
What's the difference between a true follower of Jesus (a believer, a Christian--whatever term you want to use) and someone full of baloney? Repentance.
We are supposed to be known by our words and the acknowledgment of God at the same.
This guy I bet couldn't give one scripture of the Bible by memory or any discipline spent.
In everything we are supposed glorify the Lord. This guy glorifies only himself and sometimes he will use God's name, just to not seem totally a blasphemous fool.
If' a man is bent on entering hell, than follow Todd Bently's path. You don't need Todd Bentley to enter the kingdom of heaven or to receive a miracle.
My youtube account name is not musichalloffame. that is musichalloffame baloney. Of course if I say that , I guess I must not believe that my youtube account name is musichalloffame just because I said that and always say that my youtube account name is musichalloffame.
Wow...."christians" according to these comment are harsh!!! Judge not right? It's of no MANS doing that anyone is healed....god can use a donkey so surely he can use people like this man? It's by the faith of the sick that they are healed through Jesus christ not their pastor..I have NO judgment of this man. He's obviously doing great works for god whether his personal life is in tact or not there is no denying that god is using him in an awesome and mighty way. Probably more than what can be s
@torijj17 Are you serious??? Any person filled with the Holy Spirit, knows this man is a False Teacher! Listen to the things he teaches. False Doctrine- he speaks some truth mixed with error....
@princeofroyalty2 Keep talking man. I like it. You prove exactly what is wrong with Christianity in the first place, and why you all are so divided, thus why you cause division in the world altogether. Great job!
Clearly the person who made this video has a chip on there shoulder that goes way beyond merely exposing someone that doesn't look like your run of the mill televangelist.
Anyone who can look at this shaved ape,childmolestor,and believe God preforms miracles through his hiking boots upside little old ladies heads, his violent, angry evil troll looking retarded baboonlike qualities, needs to open a Bible and see what Jesus did,and he never harmed people while healing them.He suffers from severe turrets syndrome, which is why he struggles to try to keep his head from falling off,now his second idiot wife swings her head demonic like, for attention.they are retarded.
your pointing out the details in this video without paying attention to your own. it reminds me of something jesus said. you know, the one about taking the log from your own eye before trying to remove the spec in another's.
Yessereee bob there y'all. I dun got ma tongue caught in ma warsh mashine an' it wer streched out like a floor mat in ma truck. Thein ah got heeled and ma tongue rolled up like a roll of duck tape. The low-rd heeeld ma tongue an now when ah talk it sounds like ah farted.
INDOCTRINATION OF YOUNG MINDS. the game that pussies play.
hashpuppy101 3 months ago in playlist Christian Frauds
This is the type of Christian that stalker Innuendoh is, he believes in casting out demons and he even claims to have done so. What he doesn't know is that he is HARMING people with mental illnesses by claiming that they have demons instead of schizophrenia or Dissosiative Identitiy Disorder which are as real as heart attacks and NOT caused by demons.
changingmyself 4 months ago in playlist Christian Frauds
Bros and chicks... the only thing that can heal anyone is about a few hundred dollars and a doctor getting wealthy on your ass
blaze16789 8 months ago
he repeated the word stuff becaseu the kid said it, leave the man alone, he knows Jesus as truth
MrSlippin22 9 months ago
If you accept the bible as the true word of God, then you must also find slavery, the stoning and burning of heretics, and the sacrifice of children moral as well. Otherwise, you aren't really a believer. You simply masquerade around for it, defending it because of your upbringing and/or culture. You don't need religion to believe that there is something greater than yourself.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone Slavery is never encouraged in the Bible, and where it is tolerated, it is within strict parameters which insist on the proper treatment of slaves and the possibility of slaves to buy their freedom. Where followed correctly, 'slavery' under the mosaic law is more like an employment contract in most cases. There is capital punishment in the Bible for those who defiantly break God's laws within the theocratic community of Israel. Who are you to say this is wrong?
neilmarcusrichardson 9 months ago
@neilmarcusrichardson You're just plain wrong about that. The bible clearly condones slavery. You're a sick person.
driekone 9 months ago
@neilmarcusrichardson However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
driekone 9 months ago
@neilmarcusrichardson Here is part of another one, since I cannot fit it....When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son.... (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT) and you can read the rest yourself
driekone 9 months ago
@neilmarcusrichardson Here's one of my favorites. When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
driekone 9 months ago
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@neilmarcusrichardson Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
driekone 9 months ago
@neilmarcusrichardson Jesus seems okay with it too. The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
driekone 9 months ago
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@neilmarcusrichardson Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)
driekone 9 months ago
@neilmarcusrichardson What was that agian? The bible doesn't encourage slavery?
driekone 9 months ago
@neilmarcusrichardson Buy back their freedom? You are not a real human being in my eyes. What you have to say is repulsive.
driekone 9 months ago
@neilmarcusrichardson proper treatment? it tells you how much you can beat them....
666alilthrowedoff666 8 months ago
@neilmarcusrichardson weasel words lol...slavery is not a mere employment contract at all or the word for servant would be used and it's not, the word for 'slave' and 'slavery' are thereby implicitly condoning this institution.
AlanWattParrot 6 months ago
@driekone There is no child sacrifice mandated in the Bible. Indeed, one of the reasons God sent the Israelites into Canaan to wipe out the seven tribes there was because they were committing this very deed. The only thing close to child sacrifice is when God asks Abraham to offer up Isaac but he actually prevents Abraham from doing it at the last minute and provides a ram instead, showing that animal sacrifice is the appropriate method of atonement at that time.
neilmarcusrichardson 9 months ago
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driekone 9 months ago
@neilmarcusrichardson Apparently God is okay with child sacrifice if he A) sacrificed his only Son, as you believe that he did, and B) even considered to tell Abraham to sacrifice his child in the first place. If I was told to sacrifice my child I'd say "fuck you!" I don't believe in garbage like that. And to believe that suddenly God turned it into a Ram, is funny. Why is it that all this magic happened in the middle nowhere, around uneducated people who were illiterate? Think critically
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone God didn't turn anything magically into a ram, He provided a ram caught up in brush. God commanding Abraham to sacrifice his only son was a test of abraham's faith, the faith that Abraham had that God would provide another sacrifice other than his son if he followed through with God's request. Abraham did so and the ram was provided. Being asked to sacrifice his only son was one of many forshadowing symbolisms of what was to take place with Christ upon the cross. No magic there.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 THe entire doctrine is filled with so-called miracles, which is magic, I hate to break it to you.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone The definition of miracle is as follows - an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause.
Definition of magic is as follows - the art of producing illusions as entertainment by the use of sleight of hand, deceptive devices, etc. These are 2 completely different things, you're comparing apples and oranges so to speak.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 Now you are simply playing semantically. Big deal. Okay, I'll conform to your word. But you should get the meaning. The fantastical events from the bible, or any so-called miracle (raising the dead, turning water to wine, walking on water, and so on) do not correlate with the world we live in. SO NOT MAGIC, but the things proposed in the bible has yet to provide any evidence for such fantastical ideas.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone yeah how are these phonies.But you have to understand obviously none of the things you mentioned were done by genuine people of GOD.More freaks and lunatics like this lot.The terminology of how slavery is used and what it means in the context of those civilisations.Slavery still exists
If you have any interest to see whats behind all this besides the obvious.Check out total onslaught/amazing discoveries and also Bible answer man.
Were going to see radical things this century.
surfmuso 9 months ago
What I find funny about Christians is they claim that non-believers are so arrogant, yet there is nothing more arrogant than believing that a Supreme Being, one that supposedly controls the entire universe,has a vested interest in them specifically, and that if they follow all the rules, and praise this being, they will get eternal paradise. It's absolutely silly. Plus, I wouldn't want to believe in a God that is so jealous that he needs to be praised all the time.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone Asking this, not being arguementative, but why does it seem arrogant for a believer to believe and proclaim that there is a Supreme God, something much bigger, more intelligent, and vastly more powerful than me? It's me saying that my existance is not meant to be a self-centered one, my existance is not about me. And if there is a God that created me, shouldn't that Creator be owed my praise. Make no mistake God does not NEED my praise or attention.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 To answer this, it's because of the arrogance that Christians proclaim that they have the ultimate truth to existence. You don't hear this in science. On the contrary, they fully admit they don't know, which is why they investigate until they find sufficient evidence. Now, I am not saying that a belief in God holds arrogance. I am saying that a belief in a God of religion fosters arrogance. If you were to believe in the God of say, Spinoza, then the arrogance might die down a bit.
driekone 9 months ago
@flcn92 Here you are condemning the notion that God, who is as you say "much bigger, more intelligent, and vastly more powerful" than you, needs worship and is self-centred. It is a straw man to say that God *needs* worship as He (as the only necessary being) clearly has no need of anything from contingent beings he has himself created (see Psalm 50). Your view that self-centredness is a negative trait is something that comes right out of the Bible, not secular thought, as is your view of the...
neilmarcusrichardson 9 months ago
@flcn92 ...transcendent greatness of God. I think you sound like more of a theist than you realise! Self-centredness is wrong in humans because it is idolatry - we are according worship to things that are not worth that much praise - ourselves. When God requires that we centre ourselves on Him, and says that He does things for His own glory, this is entirely fitting. For God to do anything for any other reason (ultimately) than His own glory would be idolatry, giving worth to something less.
neilmarcusrichardson 9 months ago
@neilmarcusrichardson I don't see where you correlated what I said to mean that that I condone self-centeredness. On the contrary I thought I made it a point to say that for me to believe in a supreme God is me denying myself all together. That because He is my creator He deserves my full devotion and praise. I merely stated that God does not "need" our praise because He is God, He desires our praise and desires a personal relationship with his creation.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 Haha. Typical Christian confusion.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone This isn't Christian confusion sir, this is a misunderstanding of interpretation. As in I don't think he/she understood what I meant.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 precisely.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone Percisely what? That had nothing to do with "Christian" confusion.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 You really are clueless. Think about it. If you need to re-read it then do that.
driekone 9 months ago
@flcn92 Are Historians ever confused about whether Abraham Linoln was the President of the USA or of Russia? No. Do mathemeticians puzzle over what the circumference of a circle is? (Which the bible got wrong by the way). You are missing the fact that your misinterpretation about Christianity and it's truth is the problem itself. It can never have justification about facts in the world.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone Historians don't puzzle over things that are known facts, and mathemeticians puzzle over mathematical equations. It's what they do, where in scripture did the bible get the circumference of a circle wrong? I haven't mis-interpreted anything.
flcn92 9 months ago
@neilmarcusrichardson Ultimately in the end we will all bow before Him and profess He is Lord. Says so in scripture "every knee will bow, and every tounge confess that Christ is Lord." To say that God is in "need" of our praise conotates that God seeks something from us that He can't do Himself, which if that is the case then focus is placed on our importance in Christianity instead of Him. See what I'm saying?
flcn92 9 months ago
@driekone A big misconception is that Christianity is about following a set of rules to attain an eternity in heaven. Christianity is based solely on the belief that God loves His creation so much that He became a final sacrifice to atone for peoples sins against Him. But only after centuries of us trying to atone for them ourselves and God knowing that it wasn't good enough. And by becoming that sacrifice God showed us that He desires a relationship with us, not some medieval heirarchy.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 Well first of all, why does God have to be Christian? What if the God of Islam is the one true God? After all, you couldn't prove that it isn't? It has to do with what culture you were brought up in, that's all. Also, by trying to define Christianity, as sort of an apologist would, you fail to observe the doctrine's real teachings, and the messages it really conveys. If it was truly about love, then the history of the faith wouldn't be marked with great death and violence.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone Christianity exists on the beliefs and events that took place by Jesus Christ. Christ was the blood offering from God on peoples behalf to atone for the sins that we can't atone for. from the beginning of time yearly people had to make a sacrifice to God to atone for them for the year, they would take two goats, kill one, and take it's blood and mark the other one and set it free as the symbol of their sins being taken away.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 You failed to address my question. It could be true that Islam has the truth. It could be true of any other religion. You can base nothing on facts. It's sheer belief.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone I believe this is so because of what Christ states in scripture, "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father(God) except through me." I can base this on the facts that there was a man, born to a virgin, given the name of Jesus the Nazerene, who wrongfully tried, was found not guilty by the Governer, And though being innocent was crucified, laid in a tomb on a friday, and 3 days later on the sunday 2 women named Mary went to the tomb and found it empty.....
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 But the muslims believe exactly the way you do, insofar as Allah is the way, the truth, and the life, and they believe their scripture is to be followed (I thought you said there's no rules btw?). And that if anyone is guided astray from Allah, then they will suffer eternal damnation. So I am not content with your round-a-bout answer because as far as Muslims are concerned, Christians are wrong, and as far as Christians are concerned, Muslims are wrong, neither one of you can prove it.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone No, Muslims do not believe the way Christianity does. They do not believe in a Christ or Savior that made the path to Heaven accessible without attempting to attain that passage ourselves. Christianity believes that there is nothing that we ourselves can DO to attain life in Heaven after we pass on. Islam and Jainism believe in one form or fashion that you can attain that either by yourself or by ritualistic acts.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 You really are slow aren't you? I never said they had the same beliefs. OMG. I said that they believe the same "way" that you do. Now I really can see that your skills in reading and comprehension are terrible. What I mean is, they are just as passionate as you are in your belief system. Meaning, they believe just as much that their savior is the one true savior, not Jesus. So my point was, you cannot know that it is not the true savior for humanity, just as they cannot know this.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone My skills in reading comprehension are just fine, you are attempting to compare Islam to Christianity in their belief structures. You said "they believe the exact same way Christians do, that Allah is the way, the truth and the life." Those are your words verbatim. If you meant to say that Muslims are as passionate about their beliefs as we are then that's what you should have said. But the belief structures are not the same.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 No, Allah is thought of in Islam is how Jesus is thought of in Christianity. My whole point is considering that the two religions have their own separate saviors or prophets, yet they both believe that each of their own prophets are the the way, the truth, and the life, neither religion can ever know which one is correct. Are we clear?
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone All those events took place, that is historical fact. After that my faith takes over, just as the faith of the 11 remaining disciples took hold after Jesus appeared to them in the Upper room, on the Sea of Galilea, and on the beach, that's 3 accounts of Jesus appearing to these men and speaking with him days after He was confirmed dead, and laid in the tomb. He also appeared to the 2 Mary's shortly after they found the tomb empty. There's at least 4 accounts there. and several more....
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 OH MY GOD, YOUR EVIDENCE IS SO OVERWHELMING, WOW!!! GEE WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT. HAHAHAHA.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone throughout the New Testament, when descirbed as the Holy Spirit. This is where I base my faith that Christ is the way to God. The God of Islam didn't take my place in the punishment of my sins.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 But you don't know that, nor can you prove it. Just because you were brought up with a Christian education in a Christian culture doesn't make your view right, because out there someone grew up with a Muslim education in a Muslim culture. Your argument here is fallacious again.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone I wasn't brought up in a Christian culture or with a Christian education. My education is through public schools where now that is not allowed from fear of offense. The home in which I was raised was not done so by Christian morals or values, my parents are not believers. My arguement is not fallicious in the fact that Christ came to take my place in punishment for sins against God, no where in Islam does it say that this event took place.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 It doesn't say that you half-wit! Why would the Koran say that the event took place? They don't believe in Christianity! You are dumber than I thought man, and for this, I can no longer carry on a conversation like this. We are simply talking passed each other, and you're comprehension in reading is so disadvantaged that I feel like I am wasting my time. Keep on believing what you believe, that's fine. Chances are through your faith-glossed lens, you will never think critically.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone You can call me whatever you want, it's not going to hurt my feelings, I didn't say that the Koran would say that Christ died for them. I'm also not the one who tried to prove his point by comparing 2 beliefs based on 2 completely different belief structures. You can continue to insult me as much as you like when you don't have another counter-point. I feel as though I've made attempts to be civil in this discussion and respectful of your position while trying to explain mine....
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 I apologize for the name-calling. I don't mean to get that frustrated, but I am passionate about what I say, and I feel like I am concise about what I say, and I let my frustrations overwhelm me, but I know it's not okay to call names. I know this, not because I've been told so by some divine being, it just comes naturally that it's not the right thing to do.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone Look I don't blame you at all for being passionate about your stance on these beliefs. So thank you for the apology, if you would like to continue discussing this issue with me I'd be more than glad to exchange email addresses. I think we've taken up enough of the comments section here with our debate. If not I completely understand and pray the best for you sir.
flcn92 9 months ago
@driekone Therefore if you would like to end this conversation then I will respect that decision,or we could continue in a private avenue, email or private message but I will continue to live my faith and walk in confidence that Christ is the true way. I think it's a bit arrogant of you to presume that you know more about a faith you don't believe in than someone who is living out this faith.......
flcn92 9 months ago
@driekone I encourage you to seek out the truths of the Christian faith objectively rather than with a critical or cynical heart. I pray that someday God will open your heart to His message, again I don't fault you for not understanding these aspects of the Christian faith. Good day.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 Hate to say it but our public school system, along with our politics are completely laced with Christianity, whether anyone cares to admit it or not.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone Our school system is not laced with Christianity, I don't care how you want to spin it public schools are places that over the last 20 years where Christianity or religions of any sort have been phased out by political correctness. Personally that doesn't offend me as much as you would think.
flcn92 9 months ago
@driekone God saw that this kind of sacrifice was not sufficient as we are all guilty people. So as for His love for His creation, He became man, Jesus Christ, and would be that sufficient sacrifice to cover the multitude of sins that we commit. Now, the faith doesn't just rely on Christ's crucifixion but on the event that He rose from death, and ascended to Heaven as the symbolic "scape goat" that was used for every atonement up to that point.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 You're too far gone. I am not asking for a history lesson from the perspective of a believer. It is precisely your premise of the existence of your Christian God in which I do not accept. I am not interested in discussing what God saw, because frankly, I don't wish to propound things of which I can never know. Religion is poisonous to any rational mind because at no point can a religious believer ever correlate his beliefs with actual events in the world in which he lives. Good day.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone If that's the way you wish to leave it then I will respect your choice. I know you didn't ask for a history lesson but I felt it a bit necessary for you to know a little bit about the actual background of true Christianity before you go on claiming that it's about condoning violence and murder. I don't fault you for having such a hard time understanding my belief structure. Though it may not matter to you, I pray that someday God reveals Himself to you in a tangible way. Good day sir.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 You must not know much about the history of Christianity then. Your thoughts surrounding it are laughable.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone The start of Christianity as we know it didn't begin until the book of Acts in the new testament. Chronicling the period of time directly after the crucifixion and ascension. I know plenty about the history of what is true Christianity, it is a faith, not a set of rules and rituals.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 What? Nevermind, just nevermind.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone I don't get what's not to understand about that. Christianity as it is known began after 33 A.D. The book of Acts is where you first ever read the faith called Christianity.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 No you said it's not a set of rules, but then you talk about Laws of God. Use whatever term you like, but Christianity, just like any religion is full of rules, laws, whatever. DUH
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone Love is the reason Christ took the cross, Love is the reason God raised Christ from death, and Love is the reason Christianity exists. If you have truly read any part of the gospels or New Testament you would see that the true doctrines of Christianity are about spreading the name of Christ and the message of love, compassion, and freedom. 10 of the 12 apostles in the new testament died as martyrs for spreading Christianity at the hands of the same leaders who crucified Christ.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 If you want to look at a religion that trumps Christianity on Love and compassion, just take a look into Jainism. It's actually where Ghandi got much of his wisdom, and Martin Luther King Jr. got alot of his wisdom from Ghandi. There is not one single way it can be misinterpreted. Oh but wait, that's heresy, according to the bible, that I am guiding you away from the one true God-if the bible is true, I should be punished by death.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone The difference here is, Jainism is based on the belief that we ourselves can do something to actually attain a level of divinity. The thought that people, who have proven over the span of time over and over again that we are inherently selfish and at many times down right evil, can make ourselves divine beings through meditating on relative wisdom seems much more arrogant than believing in a Supreme Creator that deserves my faithfulness.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 Name one documented incident of a Jain killing in the name of his or her religion. You can't, because if you actually read their doctrine there is no possible way that it can be misconstrued as to allow violence of any kind. Argument fails again.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone Not once did I say anything about Jainism killing in the name of Jainism. Once again you bring fallable people into the equation.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 Okay, and all my argument was originally was that Jainism contained more compassion and love than Christianity. If it didn't, then we wouldn't have a better result for compassion and love within the context of Jainism. Basically, I was showing you an example of why. You brought in arrogance, which I don't see how arrogance is compatible with compassion. It's really not so bad to believe in the power of oneself. In fact, Christians have to use the self to preach their doctrine also
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone Christians do not use "self" to preach the faith, if it were necessary to do so then Christianity would not be about denying dependance on oneself and we would tell Christ "thanks but no thanks, I can handle all this myself."
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 You're a puppet if you think like this.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone I made the choice to follow Christ and His teachings. I believe that I have had a personal encounter with Him, therefore I chose to live a life believing that Christ is the way. I don't think puppets have the luxury of a choice.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 You made a choice, great! But that doesn't mean that you're right simply because you made that choice.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone Still doesn't make me a "puppet" though.
flcn92 9 months ago
@driekone Christianity by definition of what took place on the Cross between God and us is Love(intentional on the capital L). You find Love and a God that welcomes you to come and be with Him, not a god that demands you do this this and this or you're condemned. You find condemnation through people's religion, peoples perversion of the Love that Christ came to show us. I don't mean to seem like I'm going off on you, but I just wanted to set some facts straight about the Christian faith.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 Using the New Testament for an excuse for all the slavery and oppressive ideas the Christianity has brought to this world does not hide the fact that the bible itself is an extremely contradictory piece of work, jumbled and mixed up with mixed messages. So if the work was actually overlooked by God in all his omnipotence, and is supposed to be the word of God, you would think that he could do much better than causing a massive amount of confusion which caused many wars and violence.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone I made no excuse for slavery and un-just wars, especially not behind such a thing as the New Testament. Don't confuse what Christians call the work of God to what is really the work of humans. Many wars in history after the crucifixion have been waged "in the name of God" that were merely forged by man's perversion of scripture. That's what I'm trying to convey, in the scriptures Christ is very black and white, the confusion comes by the ignorance of people.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 Yeah, how did I know you would say that? There's no sense in having a conversation with you. All I was trying to point out is that given the scriputures we have, I am not impressed.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone You can choose to believe that it's not worth keeping on a conversation of this matter, that makes no difference to me. You can choose to pick and choose single scriptures and read them out of context, by doing this you only perpetuate the point I made about the misconceptions of Christianity. You choose to read what you want to read and believe what you want to believe about it.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 Here's where you're wrong about the confusion being simply with the people. John 15:6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch, and is withered; and they gather them (who's they?) and throw them into the fire, and they are burned." Sounds like some Jesus love to me. Wow. Also, Jesus tells us in the New Test. that he is not there to destroy the laws of the Old Test, but rather to "uphold them." So, Jesus seems to be okay with everything from the Old Testament. HELLO
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone John 15 in full context Christ is using the symbolism of vines on a tree to explain to His followers that He is the true messiah. As a branch that is attached to a tree is full of life, the branch not attached to the tree dries up and dies. If He is the true spirit of life then apart from Him we die. If we do not abide(or attach our hearts to Him) in Him we are dead. Context my friend.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 Yeah, well you can choose to use Jesus' teachings as a metaphor. But you haven't explained why they are to be burned. Perhaps the burning of heretics, which we saw happened in the history of Christianity. What about Matthew's Jesus? He's full of fire and brimstone. And again, you haven't explained why Jesus wants to uphold the laws of the Old testament, and also how you can excuse the hideous aspects of the Old Testament scripture, and feel okay saying the bible is moral.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone Ok, think about it, if a limb on a tree is not "bearing" fruit or leaves what do you do with it? You cut off and burn it, if it's dead to you then it's of no use to you. By using this as a metaphor Jesus is saying that He is the one who is sent by God to be the sacrifice, the key to eternal life with Him in heaven. All you have to do is accept the gift, and profess to people who don't know Christ as the Savior what God has done for them.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 You think about it using rationale. I don't need to think about it theologically. You seem to think that your interpretation is the way that Jesus should be read by everyone. In a nutshell, everyone should accept a "metaphor" the way that you do. If Jesus was so great, why didn't he just say what he meant? He had to have known the chaos it would create, and the division of people. Let's face it, the bible could've been written much better than it was in order to enlighten us.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone I can't fully explain why Jesus chose to speak in metaphors, and yes they are confusing even to the most educated believer. But I don't believe it diminishes the message. These people spoke in a much different language than you or I. I think of it as, how many times have we been told a truth, of any kind straight up no metaphors, and still chosen not to understand or believe it because it's not what we want to hear. If you truly seek the truth of Christ you'll find it in his parables.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 How many times have you played the simple phone game as a child, and each child whispers something in the ear of the next child, as they all sit in a circle? By the time it reaches the end, it is never accurate.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone If people would follow the scriptures, Christ's words are there in print. There wouldn't be any confusion. There once again you have proven my point in that it is people who are fallable with the faith, not God.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 And it is people who wrote the Bible.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone Written by people inspired by God. 2 Tim. 3 16-17 All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.
flcn92 9 months ago
@driekone He's very clear about it, the gift was free on our behalf, if we accept that and profess our faith in Him for that then eternity is what we get. But if I am told about all the Christ did and what it meant and I choose to reject it and lead my own life apart from Him, then I will not receive the gift when I die that I refused when I was alive. That's where Christianity becomes a faith, it's not hard to believe and have faith in something I can see, touch, or taste.
flcn92 9 months ago
@driekone As for the laws of the Old Testament you're refering to, you need to look back to Exodus when God gave Moses the 10 Commandments. That, is the Law Christ refers to. Christ also stated in Matt. 22:33-40 when asked what is the greatest commandment, the greatest is to Love God with all your heart, soul and mind. The second is like it, Love your neighbor as Yourself. These two are the greatest and foremost, on these two depend the WHOLE LAW and the Prophets.
flcn92 9 months ago
@driekone The whole Law being 1. you shall have no gods before me, 2. you shall not make and worship false idols, 3. don't take the Lords name in vain, 4. keep the sabbath holy, 5. honor your father and mother, 6. do not commit murder, 7. do not commit adultery, 8. do not steal, 9. do not bear false witness, and 10. do not covet your neighbors household. The first 4 laws focus on loving and honoring God, the last 6 are about loving others. That's the Law Christ was upholding.
flcn92 9 months ago
@driekone You may also reference the Sundry Laws in Exodus 22 and 23. As for excusing the hideous aspects of the Old Testament, you already disregarded my explaination that people are at the root of most heinous acts, there's not much else to attempt to explain. Unless you could be refering to Sodom and Gomorrah, which in that case was the people of those cities were indulged in murder, theivery, sexual immorality you name it. God sent a prophet to warm them and they rejected the call to repent.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 I have so many examples like the one in John 15:6 it's not even funny.
driekone 9 months ago
@flcn92 Also, you don't have to believe in myths and take a literal reading of the bible in order to believe that there is something greater than oneself. You're simply accepting what organzied religion says about it without considering it for yourself.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone When one is "arrogant", one is "arrogating" to oneself honours which one does not rightfully deserve. It is arrogant to presume that there is no Supreme Being governing this awesomely designed system and these phenomenally complex beings within it. It is arrogant to say that one knows better than the Bible, the most authentic, consistent, widely-attested, time-tested book every written. A Christian is humbling himself to accept God's view of the universe rather than his own.
neilmarcusrichardson 9 months ago
@neilmarcusrichardson And you're a complete lunatic. Anyone that goes against scientific facts in the 21st century, and still believes that someone can be born of a virgin, and that someone's body can physically resurrect from the dead, is simply ignoring the way that the world actually is. Belivers cannot claim that these are facts. That's why it's called belief. You believe out of hope and comfort, because you are afraid to admit the fate of every man, which is death and nothing more.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone I can not put full faith in science as absolute truth, every year sceince advances on a new discovery that requires revisions to discoveries that were previously thought to be true. That seems completely fallable to me, and it's very unsteady ground to base a foundation of belief on.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 What are you talking about? Hey smart guy, that's precisely how we gained knowledge in medicine, astronomy, biology, geology, etc. I tell you what. Next time you get a serious illness. Don't go to the doctor, or better yet, don't take any of the recommended medicine-just pray and hope it all works out. Scientific theories are thought of as the same type of theory as religious ones--nonsense--gravity is a theory but no one would argue that it isn't true. Fail again.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone I said that I can not put my full faith in science, I have no problem going to a doctor for medicine to cure an illness. But to say that science is the search for truth with neglecting what has already been told us through scripture through out the centuries just seems fallable.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 It is the search for truth. What else do they do it for? We neglect what has already been said in the Bible because it doesn't make valid claims about the world. It may have a few useful metaphors in it, but there is nothing said in the Bible that prepares us for the modern world we live in. It is simply a ridiculous book for morality or truth. Just look at the hideous acts demonstrated throughout the text. There is no amazing prophecy about the internet, or a cure for cancer...
driekone 9 months ago
@flcn92 ...you would think that an all loving, omnipotent, omnipresent being would use the most important book of all time to tell us about the internet, cures for terrible diseases, mathematical equations which surpass anything else out there, etc. What do you find instead? Talk about heresy, not believing in other Gods, and other commandments, of which you don't need to be told are bad anyway. I don't need the bible to tell me that murder is bad. I simply know it is not naturally.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone Why would an all loving, ominpotent(also means omnipresent) God care about a revealing prophecies about a trivial object such as the internet, that obviously does not honor Him or proclaim His glory? As for having to be told right from wrong, no people do not inherently just know right form wrong. As a child you didn't know it was wrong to lie until your parents caught you in one and told you it was wrong, you also didn't know it was wrong to steal, until you took something.........
flcn92 9 months ago
@driekone that wasn't yours and only then did you learn about stealing. You didn't know it was wasn't right to hit or cause physical harm to someone until you did the first time. So no you don't naturally know right form wrong. You say you don't need them now that you are far along enough in life that you have been taught so, but at some point in your life you had to be taught what was wrong and what was right.
flcn92 9 months ago
@neilmarcusrichardson It's only time-tested because people won't let it go. Being time-tested has nothing to do with its authenticity.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone I'm sorry but that doesn't make any sense, when something it time tested that means it's been tried time and time again, from one year to the next and has either not been proven wrong or been proven that there is anything better than said product. It has nothing to do with whether or not people will let it go.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 It makes perfect sense. It hasn't been proven either. Just because religious people gather on Sunday and preach and chant and sing and praise about things they believe to be true, fanatical things I might add, doesn't make it true. You cannot give me one ounce of solid evidence. You can only spew out theology. Well, that is not evidence. Why has science stood the test of time? Gee, maybe because it really has been repeated over and over again. Just because it has flaws...
driekone 9 months ago
@flcn92 Just because science has flaws, doesn't mean that the method of acquiring knowledge itself through science isn't accurate. Scientists will fully admit their errors, unlike Christians and other believers. In other words, you cannot pull up a scientific truth of today that has countlessly been tested as accurate over time, and say that it could be wrong. If we left knowledge to religious believers we'd still be living in the Dark Ages, or something just above it, making no progress.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone Just as science continues to push the idea of evolution and a big bang theory without staunch substantial evidence proving that this took place. You can grill me on science as much as you want, but I will tell you right up front I am no science scholar nor will you see me arrogant enough to debate it against my faith. Scripture has never taken revision since Christ's death and the birth of Christianity, different translations yes but no revisions.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 Why don't we all just own slaves then? Is that not a revision somehow. In fact, let's all just live like peasants and go back to being uneducated, and thinking the world is flat.
driekone 9 months ago
@flcn92 THey have substantial evidence for evolution. You just don't read anything else outside of your little circle of Christianity to know about it.
driekone 9 months ago
@driekone What ground hard evidence do they have, evolution has become an excuse to explain developements in nature that science was previously unaware of and are currently unable to explain.
flcn92 9 months ago
@flcn92 evolution is a fact the theory of evolution is how why when it happens we know for sure it happens
keaverkite 9 months ago
I don't know how to put this...but...I'm kind of a big deal.
Exlemic 9 months ago
1 Corinthians 2:4-5 My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the spirit's power. So that your faith might not rest on men's wisdom, but on God's power.
slamps 9 months ago
This guy is so ridiculous......... u know what I'm not even gonna keep going, I'll just let this phoney keep playing these people like a chess game. Always remember, in the end there's only one king standing and I guarantee it wont be this guy.
MrMcLovin904 9 months ago
oh what a bunch of retarded mugs
whoareyapauldunn 9 months ago
all religion is false. we are just a continuing part of life.. like trees and birds, like grass and the ever burning sun that shines down and gives life on this earth. wake up people! god is not real.
ryanneglect 9 months ago
todd is bi polar
kidrodeo 9 months ago
@kidrodeo bi-polar is a bullshit term
TheTroubledTroubador 9 months ago
Is Todd Bentley a hobbit?
drshoggothshow 9 months ago
i think these people really want to believe it's true.....but don't test the lord they god, don't go around telling god and his spirit that he has to heal you and others.
aquabat104 10 months ago
I think shows like this should be against the law because it is fraud!
Why cant it just be one man,or woman just teaching about the word of God,and not pretending that they are God with all of their false healings and their installation of false hope into people,and who take 1/10(if i remember correctly) of peoples earnings for the church and their operations?Boy,the people who you can truly trust with God,you really can count on one hand,cant you?
liw213 10 months ago
well i guess rednecks need religion too.
Nickolie56 10 months ago
lol...fail
StingrayX5 10 months ago
When you are severely injured, don't go to the hospital, go to Todd Bentley!!!
openuptheireyes 10 months ago
another fake protestant church
SoCalxHeartbreaker 10 months ago
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Aceskier11 10 months ago
Miracle baloney is right. I don't believe in this stuff. And in my opinion anyone who does is asinine.
MrWagman11 10 months ago
Yea mate you need to rewatch this, you've got the complete wrong end of the stick . and Todd Bentley wasn't the be all and end all of everything. God was. Todd Bentley will never be the be all and end all of it. God will be though. Yea Todd messed up. He is human, we all do it. Bu the grace of God will never cease. His Love endures forever. When we surrender and humble ourselves to Him he will forgive us and fill us with the Holy Spirit.
matt1991ainscough 10 months ago
This Bentley a serious case...must be to pray for him.
magveto1 10 months ago
Todd Bentley needs "kicked in the face"!!! BAM!
Matthew 7:21
"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
2 Thessalonians 1:
8 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
Follow God, not Todd...
rickgigliotti 10 months ago
I'm not sure if anyone really pays attention to these videos or not.. but you guys need to realize this man is not a standard tie and suit type of guy. God created all kinds, and it IS possible for a person who has done bad things to be set free and forgiven. Have you forgotten that in the Bible Jesus talks about one sin being the same as another? Who are you to point fingers and judge this man. The man is light hearted and uses humor in sermons... whats wrong with that?
mRaveKandiKid 10 months ago
@mRaveKandiKid He cons people and gives false hope to, at the of the day, make money! It's all about the money, money ,money!
lofty2210 10 months ago
These people are satanists! Satan can heal and do wonders and signs, but these are false signs and will lead people to hell. No one will tell me to repent on here about these so called men of God. They are blasphemers and the worst type of sinner. They will burn in hell unless they repent and turn toward the true LORD and saviour Jesus Christ for mercy.
jojomarie66 10 months ago
These people are satanists. Satan can heal and do wonders and signs, but these are false and will lead people to hell.
jojomarie66 10 months ago
why are these people still running around they should be locked up for Fraud
Joeyal123 11 months ago
I hope you people notice the back of his shirt at the very top its the all seing eye right?
dboyneo 11 months ago
worst of the worst of the so-called "prophetic Movement" people, and causes people to suspect true prophets, few as there are.
SeattleLA 11 months ago
What's the difference between a true follower of Jesus (a believer, a Christian--whatever term you want to use) and someone full of baloney? Repentance.
rallyts 11 months ago
We are supposed to be known by our words and the acknowledgment of God at the same.
This guy I bet couldn't give one scripture of the Bible by memory or any discipline spent.
In everything we are supposed glorify the Lord. This guy glorifies only himself and sometimes he will use God's name, just to not seem totally a blasphemous fool.
If' a man is bent on entering hell, than follow Todd Bently's path. You don't need Todd Bentley to enter the kingdom of heaven or to receive a miracle.
mamaschristmasbunny 11 months ago
Todd Bentley is the man! I loved that.
neitherben 11 months ago
I watched that show for 4 months straight with only a couple of days missed. I hope we'll soon see even bigger
DanFrederiksen 11 months ago
My youtube account name is not musichalloffame. that is musichalloffame baloney. Of course if I say that , I guess I must not believe that my youtube account name is musichalloffame just because I said that and always say that my youtube account name is musichalloffame.
.....get my point?
musichalloffame 11 months ago
really? "caught red handed"? if you don't like the ministry of Todd Bentley, or anyone else, debunk in the right way.
This proves nothing.
danieljamesbeard 1 year ago
Wow...."christians" according to these comment are harsh!!! Judge not right? It's of no MANS doing that anyone is healed....god can use a donkey so surely he can use people like this man? It's by the faith of the sick that they are healed through Jesus christ not their pastor..I have NO judgment of this man. He's obviously doing great works for god whether his personal life is in tact or not there is no denying that god is using him in an awesome and mighty way. Probably more than what can be s
torijj17 1 year ago
@torijj17 Are you serious??? Any person filled with the Holy Spirit, knows this man is a False Teacher! Listen to the things he teaches. False Doctrine- he speaks some truth mixed with error....
princeofroyalty2 1 year ago
@princeofroyalty2 Keep talking man. I like it. You prove exactly what is wrong with Christianity in the first place, and why you all are so divided, thus why you cause division in the world altogether. Great job!
driekone 9 months ago
""human tattoo-parlour"??
Clearly the person who made this video has a chip on there shoulder that goes way beyond merely exposing someone that doesn't look like your run of the mill televangelist.
Antnj81 1 year ago
i don't know why this guy is coming to my country whit his crap.
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Jacobviregan88 1 year ago
Bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam!
izwanisme 1 year ago
I can't stand Todd Bentley, but dude. Don't take it out of context. You hurt more than help. He was being sarcastic.
Pokygirl2001 1 year ago
Anyone who can look at this shaved ape,childmolestor,and believe God preforms miracles through his hiking boots upside little old ladies heads, his violent, angry evil troll looking retarded baboonlike qualities, needs to open a Bible and see what Jesus did,and he never harmed people while healing them.He suffers from severe turrets syndrome, which is why he struggles to try to keep his head from falling off,now his second idiot wife swings her head demonic like, for attention.they are retarded.
blackfisti64 1 year ago
@blackfisti64 you know what else Jesus DIDN'T do??
HE DIDN'T JUDGE.
perhaps you missed that verse while you were reading your bible.
Antnj81 1 year ago
it's actually spelled bologna. not baloney.
your pointing out the details in this video without paying attention to your own. it reminds me of something jesus said. you know, the one about taking the log from your own eye before trying to remove the spec in another's.
throneroomlush 1 year ago
I hear Todd Bent-out of shape-ly is a CHO-MO. Todd? Are You A CHO-MO??? If you are, you should be castrated and sent to the big house.
BSmenot 1 year ago
It was a reeel merrikel.
BSmenot 1 year ago
Yessereee bob there y'all. I dun got ma tongue caught in ma warsh mashine an' it wer streched out like a floor mat in ma truck. Thein ah got heeled and ma tongue rolled up like a roll of duck tape. The low-rd heeeld ma tongue an now when ah talk it sounds like ah farted.
BSmenot 1 year ago
@BSmenot ROFL!!
JuvieFirst 1 year ago
@BSmenot That's just awful...lol
JuvieFirst 1 year ago
k i have met this guy. . . you're just plan stupid lol
TheDaniel321321 1 year ago