Ninjitsu is beautiful and I would love to learn it. I am particularly interested in the balance and body control aspects (if anyone has seen fight science).
I notice a lot of people saying "this or that" isn't ninjutsu. Ninjutsu consists of many parts, taijutsu, kenjutsu and many other aspects.
To say that a particular technique isn't ninjutsu is somewhat misleading. It certainly is not "ALL" there is to ninjutsu but many other martial arts have taken individual techniques from ninjutsu.
Ninjutsu has also evolved over the centuries (as have all combat) and added techniques from other styles and forms.
i have looked up Ninjitsu a lot here. lol And i am not races or anything but a lot of the masters i have found where black i cant find one Asian master just something funny i noticed. The masters are great though.
@LryuzakilightX Dude the one Grandmaster I am aware of (ninjas can be really sneaky) that teaches Ninjitsu happens to be Asian and in fact lives in Japan. :)
I think that the techniques taught and learned in this system are very viable. They have almost everything. Sensei Duncan has put together a system for today's world. The ninja mystique created by Hollywood clouds the perception of a solid martial system founded on traditional japanese systems. I'm a 16 year student of Aikido and a prison guard. Sometimes the most effective means are the simplest and most difficult grasp.
Ur kinda breakin ur posture...Leaning foward on that elbow n not staying centered..U lose power n control by not keeping ur back straight..N also u can be reversed easier like that..If ur opponent has that sensitivity n feeling they can feel that slightest off set..
computron dont try to trick these people with that bs. its true you may lose balance but he's leaning in for a sweep besides the elbow he's throwing has all of his body weight. enough to drop a lot of people....whats strong a punch with your back straight or a punch with a twisting hip with you body weight behind it. nough said
No need to waste your time with worthless philosophical and egoistical views with detractor on the outside looking. Let the result of your effective training be the proof of your claims.Naysayers are involve in the paralysis of analysis, useless rhetoric that has no bases in reality of true Budo. Respect and Honour is the principle that bound a true Bushi and allows him to excel in his art of fighting not having to indulge always in the privilege of lineage. The truth comes with its own rewards.
I also hope you realise that groin strikes, small joint manipulation and eye gouging are a very minor part of self-defensive skills (nowhere near as important as having solid bases in all three ranges of combat) and that any art that claims their art is inhibited by the disallowance of their use is probably a very weak one indeed...
Thats makes no sense. If you constantly train to attack parts of the human body that inflict immediate damage, and then your put in a situation where you are restricted as to what you can do, of course your gonna be put at a disadvantage, because you cant do what you have been trained to do. And eye gouging, strikes to the throat etc are in no way minor parts. Those are effective and necessary parts. So that doesnt make that art weak. How silly and clearly unawares a claim.
You have no true reality base then, if you think those types of applications are weak. Any art that doesnt even consider uses them is in fact the weak one. because when someone uses them against you you will be injured and then see the reality of your weakness.
It seems you train in a sport application and this explains your total lack of knowledge of what is really effective. Most self defense ( NOT SPORT FIGHTING) systems always incorporate such types of strike because they work. Why? well you cant strengthen you groin, eyes, or throat. They are always vulnerable areas and can instantly shock and stun a person.
And do me a favor. Since you seem to know about fighting and self defense so much could you post some vids of you doing your art so we can critique what you do and see if you really know what your talking about.
someone once said to me "don't stick it out if your afraid to get it cut off." any thoughts? do you know what karim1950 meant when he said "paralisis on analysis"? Just curious what that means....Thanks.
lol it looks like you've made it a job to go around disproving other forms of martial arts.
Groin strikes and eye gouging are minor part of self defensive skills?
Well a groin strike got my G/F out of being raped. And she has no martial arts experience. So I think you're the one who lives in fantasy land. Not ninjutsu practitioners.
And our techniques aren't designed for toe to toe fair fight combat in some duel. It's supposed to get rid of our opponent "in and out" efficiently.
I am a 6th dan in Bujinkan Ninjutsu (which means I'm still a beginner!)
I have been to japan to train with Hatsumi Sensei and I have never heard him insult othe martial artists. Your movement speaks for itself. Defend your position if you must, but I suggest (and I'm nobody!) that you take the high ground when others take the low ground.
My question is, why do you spend time and words discrediting Hatsumi Sensei? Has he said anything about you? Have you met him in the dojo personally and trained with him?
If you have nothing to prove then perhaps demonstrate that.
I know that there are some goofs that are disrespecting you and using Hatsumi Sensei's name to do so, but they're clearly not qualified to do so!! Don't sink to their level.
I am a 6th dan in Bujinkan Ninjutsu (which means I'm still a beginner!)
Its always members of the bujinkan who start with the disrespect to us and those who taught us. But I do agree , sinking to their level is'nt good , but its hard sometimes as the constant disrespect gets to a person.
I am willing to bet that anyone claiming to be Bujinkan who is being disrespectful towards you is of a very low rank.
None of the ranking practitioners I know would do so.
I do understand that being attacked can get to you though! It is always a test of our own character! Can we maintain the heart of a warrior in the midst of external chaos.
I always wanted to learn ninjutsu, but in India even a karate teacher can call himself a ninjutsu master and nothing will be done about it......so cant trust any of the schools around here! I just practice things given in the book ' secrets of the ninja' by grand master Ashida Kim...
Well, there's you first problem. Ashida Kim has been extensively debunked as a liar and a fraud. He has been taken up on his $10,000 challenge many times and backed out for various highly dubious reasons.
There is an ongoing investigation into this individual at Bullshido.
Not to mention the fact that he's more or less a joke to X-Kan Ninjutsu members, which is saying something considering their own systems.
danm this is so awsome im a martial artist and ninjutsu is one style i always wanted to learn but they dont have any schools around the mississippi or lousiana area
You guys are idiots! Goddamn, this guy is real and you shouldn't be questioning him. He's one of the few people that actually have some kind of idea on what ninjitsu is. Sure it may be gone (I do have some of the secrets however from an old japanese friend of mine), but none of those I can say. This man comes as close as it gets, listen to him... you might learn something.
We have every right to question him, especially since there is no evidence of any of it working in a spontaneous situation. I would say anything claiming to teach self-defence should be subject to plenty of questioning.
Provide evidence that they DO work, and I might change my mind. Because no evidence exists at the moment beyond the anecdotal type that Ninjutsu training works under pressure at all.
Yes I am a sensei. Koga ryu ninjutsu comes from the Koga region of Japan . Bujinkan comes from the iga region of Japan said to be of togakure ryu. My experience is that we do more realistic damage such as eye gouging, groin strikes and small joint breaks. Our movement is also swifter and wind like, not slow and stiff.
Where can I see this art in practical use? It seems every martial arts is amazing in the dojo, but which work in practice (ignoring the fact it's dependent on the fighter during the actual fight)?
Go to my video .Ninjutsu,does it work, its on my channel.One of students got into a situation where 2 guys tried to jump him and what we taught worked for him.
Once again,I have to keep repeating my self. You guys keep WRONGLY talking about dead Koga line. Fujita was not the owner or soke of the entire koga ryu. He was only the soke of the wada ha ryu which was a style among 6 families out a total of 53. So stop with this dead koga nonsense. He never claim he was soke of the entire koga line. 53 clans and people say it ends with 1 man who they lied about saying he and unbelievably all his students die together in a bus crash.
There is no historical link between any other Soke and the Koga line. No historical evidence at all. There wasn't even any evidence linking Fujita to Koga Ninjutsu. So unless you can provide actual evidence, stop making this claim.
No the disrespect is evident in the comments from people on Bullshido, and other such sites. WTH are you asking me for. I told you who I learned from.Now i guess you would have to question them. And its easy to question a video after the fact. Im sure you could watch a professional grapple match and question things that were done. Its easy to do that after the fact. And Dont quote website hater comment sections its weak and sorry.
Asking for proof is not disrespectful. It is perfectly reasonable if you are claiming your art is effective in a spontaneous and violent scenario.
If someone claims this I expect them to at least provide evidence that it works in some kind of spontaneous and violent scenario. Even sparring footage would demonstrate this to a limited degree.
We already have proof. I myself have 2 videos of testimony from my students who have gotten into real conflicts and say its worked for them. And we have self defense sparring footage as well in the triple R DVD. These are all on my channel.
Yeah, but the stories are not made up. The one with the navy has a police report to back up that the incident happened. Or is that your just on a macho ego trip and thus nothing really will satisfy you?! If so then just go your way.
And thats exactly what it is. Your a 19 year old kid telling us with years and experience in the martial arts. Our system has been used to train Police, marines, navy seals, and your still telling us about what works and doesnt and proof??? Come on man, grow up and get past the egotistical, johnny bad boy , think your bad cause you think your a fighter now, cause you go to an MMA gym twice a week. Really get off it.
And watch your mouth son, They have their credentials. They have been given their accolades,props, and awards for what they do and teach. They have been acknowledged as experts , in self defense,weapons etc. So show some respect. But thats just it, the internet has spawned lil female acting gossip message boards and the computer screen allows you to be disrespectful because you dont have to face that person.
And we have many more testimonies of people who learned from Duncan, Karim and my self who got into REAL conflicts on "Da streets" and it worked for them. So we have our tangible proofs. Thats what we been trying to tell you boys. I have student now who is a former CO from a prison in NY and he said the CO's always were either trained in or looking to train in either Duncans ,Moses Powells, or Vee jitsu styles. thats it. Why, because they work and are proven combat effective.
Well be done already! Your basic fundamentals of grappling are for grappling tournaments and thats cool. But Im not a tournament grappler. When you get into a scrap on the street, do you really think your going to have time to be a damn ace technical grappler? And do you think the theif or thug trying to attack you is going to be a ranking BJJ figher? Come on man. And did you not see the vid of my brown belt who said he used what I taught him and it work IN A REAL situation?! Damnit thats proof
No it is not. Anecdotal evidence is not realiable proof at all.
At least BJJ and "tournament grappling" techniques have been shown to work against resisting opponents who are trying to win. Not to mention closer approximations to street fights, such as MMA competition.
Yeah with rules that protect them on the ground and from being seriously injured Against guys who aren't trying to kill or disable thier opponent, but to win a "sportsman" combat That doesn't seem like evidence to me either... Seems like evidence that BJJ will win sport combat, because it doesn't require serious injury to win. So you don't have to worry about violating rules or being frowned upon. BJJ in a street fight I could see applicable if it's one on one and no weapons involved
You see this a where soo many people are wrong. Any art that calims to teach you how to fight against Multiple opponents with weapons is bullshit - you cant train for that realistically.
Arts like BJJ work because they train Alive against fully resisting opponents, not just compliant drills and forms.
I think most kata, especially from japanese arts, can be applied to more than one opponent. Not just ninjutsu, but karate, jujutsu, aikido and others as well.
Dunno about other countries' arts however- they may also include "multiple opponents" applications in their pattern/forms/whatever equivalent.
Then again, it's difficult in the extreme to actually train for that situation- and even then there's a high chance you'd end up dead. Better to resolve peacefully where possible aye :P
I don't know about BJJ, but regular Jujutsu has plenty of disarming and weapon techniques (keep in mind it was invented by samurai). They just don't use them in MMA because there aren't any weapons.
Well spoken. You are well informed on your martial history. To add to that, MMA is sport and and although there ar weapons in sport, the intent to learn behind it, is for the sake of demontration and form
Your wrong about Koga. You guys keep repeating the lie as if Fujita claimed to have all the Koga knowledge. He only represented the Wada ha Family which was said to be among 6 out of the 53 clans. So all of the koga did NOT die with him.
And you know I find this whole new trend of internet nobodies demanding proof quite funny. Like who the hell are you or any body on that site or anywhere else to be demanding proof like your some kind of martial arts police. You want to see some proof. Come to my dojo and see the certificates of my ranks and permission to teach from my sensei hanging on the wall. LOL provide proof to some wankers on a damn internet message board like they are some kind of authorities. GTFOH!!
What do I need to provide proof to some guys on a website message board for?! I could careless. We get positive feed back all the time from people who see the benefit in our techniques. So Im not worried about internet message board haters. Like NAS said " hate me now, but wont stop now!" I studied under Master Ali Karim, and he studied under Grand Master Duncan. Thats my line of transmission. Take it or leave it.
Its didnt die. Only Fujitas wada ha families style. All koga ryu is was not from his family only. There were said to be 53 clans and even sub groups. So just give it up. Plus Kawakamai sensei is said to be 21 soke of a Koga ryu line different than Fujitas and He is endorsed by the Ninja Museum in japan and so far No disputes on it. Even the japanese Government has him do demos of Koga ryu. So please cut it. You bujinkulters and your commercial ploy to corner the market wont work!
@SuubUrbanNinja yeah that pretty much should sum everything up even today i still get criticized by iga guys saying when i learned way of the winds from Prof. Karim it was a scam but i dont pay attention because i have the unique ability to think for myself lol. N i believe the system itsself is very unique and very very deadly, very complicated to learn its no mcdojo art, dedication, pain, sweat n tears all the proponnets of a REAL martial art.
...interesting,so hatsumi's ninjutsu isnt authentic?so where can i find a REAL dojo,cause im interested in learning...can you give me a link SuubUrbanNinja,nice technique btw
Did you know that in reality, the only historical ninjutsu techniques on record are only details about how spy, gather information, and how to break and enter without detection? In other words there is no record of actual Ninjutsu combat techniques. Most of what people teach as ninjutsu is a mix of samurai arts, jutjutsu, aikijujutsu etc. So in reality, what is an authentic ninjutsu school unless they are teaching spy, and information and breaking and entering lessons.
There may be some fakes out there, so I suggest you visit the dojos and see what they are teaching. What I do is put stealth in our techniques since ninjutsu is the art of stealth. We blind opponents with eye gouging, we make evasive moves that put us in the blind spot of an opponent etc. We do bone breaking etc. So see whats being taught,and see if its combative stealth .If they teach you to kick box, or stand face to face with no evasion, then leave it alone.
Then why keep calling yourselves a "ninjutsu" school? It just seems really confusing to me... Any women's selfdefense class can teach eye-gouges and such.
But most dont. Thats where we stand out. Most who claim to teach historical ninjutsu, teach some unrealistic stiff moving nonsense. You see how we move, we move at swift speeds, we have evasion, blinded opponents, groin stikes, joint breaks etc. Real combat applications, real art of stealth combat =ninjutsu.
If you're going to go to great lengths to make people believe that what you are doing is ninjutsu (which clearly it isn't), you should at least bother to look up the word and spell it correctly!!
LOL, how do you spell correctly a word that comes from another language, that has totally different symbols not even letters for its words?! Take a hike, and mind your business. It clearly is way of the winds koga ryu ninjutsu/ninjitsu.
How about you spell it the way the grandmaster of Ninjutsu says you should spell it? Also, Koga Ryu is a dead school, and anyone who claims to teach is clearly a fraud because it never got passed down. But your karate looks great, keep it up.
LOL , now I know your a joke, "HOW the grand master says you spell it"?? LOOOL. Who is the grand master of all ninjutsu and since when did he become the expert on how to spell it in english? And koga ryu is not dead, thast just a myth created for commercial gain. Kawakami in Japan is said to be a 21st soke of Koga ryu today,he is currently curator of the Nina Museum in Japan. LOL and you dont even know what karate is either.
The grandmaster of ninjutsu is Masaaki Hatsumi, read any of his books and you'll see that he spells it "ninjutsu". I realize that the spelling of a foreign, non roman language word can be spelled different ways, but does that mean that anyone can spell the word however they want? So you're saying if I were to spell the word "neenjootsu", it would be correct? Also, anything that is not Bujinkan Taijutsu is not directly under Takamatsu Sensei, therefore it's not authentic ninjutsu. Read some books
I have read and Bujinkan has not authenticated itself. Your out of loop,Dr. Hatsumi was asked many years ago to provide documentation of some of his lineage for admittance to the Kobudo Shinkokai, perhaps the most reliable of the major organizations of traditional Japanese martial arts, and according to Donn Draeger, he was not able to provide documentation which proved his lineage to their satisfaction. Thus, there are uncertain areas in Dr. Hatsumi's lineage.
Dr Karl Friday wrote "Hatsumi's titles to most of the ryuha he claims to be soke for come from Takamatsu Toshitsugu, who in turn claimed to have inherited them from Toda Masamitsu. It's worth noting, in this context, that in the third edition of the Bugei ryuha daijiten Watatani Kiyoshi stated that Takamatsu (who was, BTW, a personal friend of his) had created his "ninpo" ryuha and teachings from "ninja-gokko" ("childhood ninja games")..." So much for authentic ninjutsu. You need to read, I have
Only 3 out of the 9 families in the Bujinkan are Ninjutsu families, but these 9 schools are still taught together. This happened as a result of Japan's history. A lot of Ninja were given Samurai status and Samurai arts and Ninja arts became one. Hatsumi sensei gives themes every year and I have had the chance to train for a couple of years in Ninjutsu Ryuhas, and I have to say I wasn't too fascinated with the style as it is mostly evasion techniques of one or two strikes and running away.
If the majority of the ryuhas are not ninjutsu but Samurai,how could you claim whats real ninjutsu is , thats my point since its mixed. But since you claim only a background bujinkan, you have no position to judge the arts from Koga. Even Sensei tenemura of the genbukan says he has Koga ryu in his line. Thus again koga is not dead. Like I said that was a lie created to try and corner the market , but it didnt work and its not working.
So about the authentication of Hatsumi's Ninjutsu. Some Gaijins asked Hatsumi to prove that his martial art is authentic and what he had as proof didn't convince these Gaijins.... hmm... Why don't you go to Japan and have Hatsumi perform something on you and you can judge for yourself if he really did just invent this martial art from "Child Ninja games"?
LOL gaijin, you were'nt paying attention to what you read. The Koryu association, and the Kobudo Shinkokai are not a bunch of gaijin. They are major traditional JAPANESE martial arts organizations. But it appears you are dooped by a japanese face. As long as you see a japanese face you believe it must be true. LOOL. And and Todo Masamitsu is not a Gaijin. Even Tanemura sensei a former student of Bujinkan left the bujinkan and said Hatsumi was not teaching true ninjutsu. So give it up!
You mentioned two names contesting hatsumi's authenticity, Donn Draeger and Karl Firday... and I found the article you got that quote from online by the american professor who claims to know more about ninjutsu and its history than Hatsumi Sensei. Keep practicing your Koga Karate, your movement reminds me of Ashida Kim.
You keep ignoring the Japanese Martial arts groups , and the statements of Todo Masamitsu, and Tenemura sensei, all japanese themselves who dispute it as well. You go on then and keep being a sucker for a japanse face, and stay in the bujin kult believing the myths. Too bad I dont see any videos of what you practice. You probably dont practice anything, just a lame internet wanna be martial art critic who wishes he could do what we do. And karate looks nothing like whats in this video.
Hey yellow,do me a favor, post some videos of you doing what you call your style of ninjutsu.. You guys always criticise but never show any example of what you do or what you believe in ninjutsu.
Thats not what I asked you! I asked you for videos of YOU doing so called real ninjutsu. And I already know about Hatsumi, and it says majority of their ryu are SAMURAI arts, so what is really ninjutsu?
Where did I say quickly after I had just said slow? I did'nt hear that part. We do show the techniques fast or at combat speed 1st, then slow it down for the students to see and learn the details.
Good, but not as comprehensively dominating as bjj. It seems to me that if someone were to move in an unexpected direction the whole routine would be thrown off. Besides, what if your training causes you to sidestep and go for the elbow when they were actually just feinting? I dunno, I'm always sceptical of any technique that tells you to respond to a strike with a complex grab.
This is just training. The joy of ninjutsu is the ability to react to any situation. These are just examples of what can be done. It's all feeling in a real experience. Training to know what that feels like is what we do in the Bujinkan. Plus, that ground fighting can get you into trouble. If you rely to heavily on one element and it is taken from you, then you lose any advantage your training ever gave you.
Yep, it's possible. Usually you have to be a pretty good martial artist before you can learn it the first time correctly, but most untrained people try and do it wrong.
too much movements while hitting the attacker. could do same damage or worse with pressure points and a throw. Remember, ninja's are lazy and don't like to use a lot of their energy
Pressure points are highly ineffective in the grand scheme of things, because not all pressure points are the same on all people.. Ninjitsu is serious because it doesn't always use pressure points, but NERVE ENDINGS, which are universal.. too much movement? He's not being attacked man, he's teaching a class.
its not that were lazy,we use the right amount of energy for the right situations,and keep calm in life or death situations.anyway i always thought that mma guys use too much energy,thats just my opinion.
" ninja are lazy " -you said-... When you are going to carry a ton of gravel, do you use a truck? or would you rather do it by carrieng shovel-by-shovel ( just as to "not be lazy") ?, Why shovel my way out of trouble, when I OWN a DUMPSTER TRUCK?
Remember? Remember from where? or What? Do you know that ninjitsu includes meditation and other practices for harnessing and focusing energy? Agreed excessive movements are to be avoided, but that's where you bridge the gap between forms and practical application.
I agree so many things these "experts" don't teach you,which are just not going to work under heat, adrenaline pumping, and moving at full speed its really hard to hit, becasue your blood pressure increases and causes loss of balance, basically the training isn't adequate for the job. do boxing or kickboxing MMA and Judo are also really helpfull.
if you really want to learn how to defend yourself, learn Krav Maga, Silat, or some other self defense system used by a major police or military establishment.
Forget boxing/kickboxing, MMA, and especially Judo. You'll end up getting yourself killed.
Yes, I've been saying that forever to these people.. yoshinkan aikido, japanese jiujitsu, krav maga, hapkido, combat 56, silat is cool too.. those are where it's at. Ninjitsu is some good stuff too.
What are your credentials? What kind of attack are you talking about defending? How many opponents? Are you saying that your ability to trade blows to the head wouldn't be improved by being in a ring? Or that kickboxing in the ring wouldn't condition you and your ability to defend/attack the body? Sure once weapons are involved a more militaristic style would be better to train for that area. But that can't replace the unarmed combat experience gained from Full contact Karate/boxing/kickboxing
hello, although I respect your point of view, i think, was your comment appropiate? I think NOT. I am a 40 year old handicapped man, Im missing one foot and therefore walk crooked. My experience with ninjutsu has saved my life ( in the streets) many a time. Now, Me think if a one-footed man can ( like they say) " kick your...", Me think this is no "superman" thing, but rahter, a WAY OF LIFE. So I´d like to kindly ask you to apologize to the Sensei. Please, have a great day.
Nice counters. I like the Samurai / Ninja related arts (Japanese Jujitsu, Taijitsu, Aikido etc.) mostly for their weapon defenses.The problem with many MMA and BJJ schools is that they do not teach weapon defense training.
How many years do you trained? In my country there is Ninjutsu school too. Teachers have bujinkan degree, i don't really know what that means, and if it's good. I think i wan't to learn this. By the way, is there and any age restriction to this? I guess none.
This doesn't look like Ninjutsu at all. More like a hybrid karate/jujutsu style while wearing a black gi. Furthermore, this dude keeps busting out the "Oss!" line after the completion of every move, which is indicative of karate and not ninjutsu (at least, if you consider Bujinkan the "real" ninjutsu, as they don't use the "Oss" line in Bujinkan). Don't get me wrong, this guy could certainly kick some ass and "get out the way" as he so eloquently states. But it doesn't look like ninjutsu.
saying ous has become common place among the people in many of the seminars we have attended. And these seminars have practitioners of different arts. So judging if its real or not by saying or not saying ous is really silly.
And can you tell me exactly what ninjutsu is supposed to look like? I mean Genbukan looks different than Bujinkan but they both claim to be ninjutsu. Robert Bussey, Stephen Hayes both students of Hatsumi yet look different in their styles of ninjitsu. Are they not real?
I completely agree - a lot of technique in Eastern arts are interchangable with some inevitable variation. But he is wrong.. this doe not look like karate to me at all with the style of blocking performed and the takedowns/throws. Most karate is a hard-blocking, blow for blow type of style.. this is far more elusive and circular in terms of counter-striking.
I agree.. looks nothing like karate to me at all. The blocking style, breaking your opponent off his center, the throwing, etc. Looks entirely foreign from karate. I do aikido, so I enjoy ninjitsu.. the anticipation and coordinated energy is where it's at, in my opinion.
Wing Chun, Shaolin, Chin na etc all look different in application but all are said to be kung fu. There were dozens of Ninja Clans, from the iga and koga regions of the japan, do you think they all looked the same, you dont think they had diferent styles of ninjutsu?? Is all ninjutsu supposed to look the same? Is Koga supposed to look the exact same as Iga?
You are absolutely right, and I apologize. As you suggested - what is "real"? I guess all this "ninja" hype is the problem. People that assume that only Hatsumi is a "real" ninja and everyone else is a fraud. But in the end, who cares whether or not an art is 1,000 years old or 10 years old? As long as it works, right? But my argument is - why call it ninjutsu then?
shaolin is not a style of kung fu... same as this isnt ninjutsu... if it is ninjutsu it must be passed down from a school master to master uninterupted... im assuming as you claim teaching rank you can back up your claim with the lineage and your authentication and certification? what regions ninjutsu do you claim to study?
I just checked your page. ONCE AGAIN ANOTHER internet expert with no videos of their own to show whats real ninjutsu or real what ever martial arts. Forget it , I dont want to hear any further from you , So disregard my question to you. Your done hear.
I have read 8 pages of your comments and peoples ignorance in which the seem to defend and fight for. I never could understand why people fight with pride to maintain such strong degrees of stupidity. You are well versed and truly knowledgeable in your art. You respond a lot to these empty heads.
I also applaud you on your constant effort in teaching......putting effort to teach even the well closed minds of the many that express mostly a multitude of cliched comments. In all of your knowing know this, those that want to see will see as well as those that want to stay blind will stay blind no matter how good the light(truth) is. I will be keeping a lookout for your vids.
i agree, you cant rely too heavily on technique becuase its not perfect, and it doesnt help with every situation, you need wits and guts to improvise and change it up to stay alive
yes technique is kinda like a game plan. remember what tyson said. "everyone has a gameplan until they get punched in the face" or something like that.
of course in a real fight it wudnt go perfect like in the demostration given here but it can be done. the evasion and the elbow would be more than enough to help win a fight without the throw. tbh trying to throw someone who is bigger than you in a real fight isnt ideal unless your controlling the fight- aka he's already gone/ko'd.
actually that type of throw that the guy does, is easy. If youu do it properly yo can throw pretty much any1 of any size because you are pushing in his central area of gravity, with yours, upsettin his balance, making him easy to just throw or trip him. your hip is kind of like a lever too when your throwin him. making big guys a breeze to throw
holy fuck, its like "k, do this, and hold like this and *BOOM* " -body implanted in the mat. everytime i heard that noise i shook a bit. too bad theres no shit like this in canada where i live..
hey lew, how r u doing man? great video I spoke with u a Few months back {bujinkan guy mel } from chicago. your videos are getting better brother keep up the good work.
everyone has theory in combat we shouldn't discredit anyone its all about understanding whats works repetition on small guys quick guys big guys and the strong ones u really dont have to prove urself to anyone except urself and the weak and to me thats budo
ive been in a shit load of meaningless street fights, but once i had my first real fight (yes cage fights are far more real) i had to register my body as a legal weapon and could no longer go out looking for trouble. i can assure you that your boney ass would get raped on the streets by a large, atheletic, and aggressive attacker. keep fantasizing about the effectiveness of all your fancy crap, you've never been in a real fight. and your rediculous throw at the end leaves your back open.
LOL " register your body as a legal weapon" Now I know for sure that a you BSer! And how the hell is cage fight (that has referee, rules) far more real than a fight on the street ( that has no rules and no referee to stop the fight when your getting your ass beat bad? If a large ,atheletic, and agressive attacker came at me, Im pulling out one of my weapons and even up the odds. Remember this ,you FAKER, I do ninjutsu, we use weapons too!
And the throw at the end leaves nothing open as the attacker just got forearmed to the back of his neck which would most surely have either knocked him out of with out a doubt dazed him making it a cake walk for the throw. That forearm to the back of the neck is so dangerous your "Far More Real" cage fight rules dont even allow such strikes to the back of the head neck area. See once again you show you lack knowledge of martial combat and sciences.
Lastly you proved your a joke with that "register my body as a legal weapon" BS! LOL . Its supposed to be as a "Lethal weapon" not legal weapon and in reality there is no such requirement by law in any state in the US or any nation I know of to register a person as a lethal weapon LOL. Take a hike kid, your done here!
SuubUrbanNinja, you are correct. You never have to "register" your body as a lethal weapon, thats an urban myth. You know "nicerebound" saw that shit on "Three's Company" when Mr. Furley said he knows karate and his hands are registered as a lethal weapon. Haha, you called his bluff!
Great!
ceranegliocchi 7 months ago
i can use a gun :D
frinchboy 1 year ago
i can not get enough of this video, this is a really good demo sensei lewis!
thank for sharing with all of sensei lewis!
tripshop420 1 year ago
but what if i wanna use genjutsu?
ig33ve 1 year ago
I WANT TO DO NINJUTSU IN MIAMI WHERE SHOULD I GO
teddynozza 1 year ago
Ous!
NINJA 4 LIFE -N4L
sadiyqnaji 1 year ago
Ninjitsu is beautiful and I would love to learn it. I am particularly interested in the balance and body control aspects (if anyone has seen fight science).
LHSStuntman 1 year ago
I notice a lot of people saying "this or that" isn't ninjutsu. Ninjutsu consists of many parts, taijutsu, kenjutsu and many other aspects.
To say that a particular technique isn't ninjutsu is somewhat misleading. It certainly is not "ALL" there is to ninjutsu but many other martial arts have taken individual techniques from ninjutsu.
Ninjutsu has also evolved over the centuries (as have all combat) and added techniques from other styles and forms.
mmacconn069 1 year ago
this looks alot like akido O.o" but w/e ive never really seen ninjutsu we need more of this in the octagon haha XD
04ozful 2 years ago
pretty much everything a ninja would actually do is illegal in MMA
plus the fight wouldn't last that long
ninjas don't spar
ucihapokujin 1 year ago
@04ozful The problem is that Ninjustu is a martial art designed to kill people. MMA is just for entertainment.
HAL0RULES63 1 year ago
i have looked up Ninjitsu a lot here. lol And i am not races or anything but a lot of the masters i have found where black i cant find one Asian master just something funny i noticed. The masters are great though.
LryuzakilightX 2 years ago 16
LryuzakilightX.. Choson is asian but I notice that too. I'll learn from anyone that makes sense in what they're teaching.
judgement357 2 years ago
kind of like boxing, most legendary boxers are black, roy jones jr is my favorite-- xD
dirkofyork 2 years ago
Maybe you've got "black master" tinted glasses on.
worryphree 1 year ago
@LryuzakilightX Dude the one Grandmaster I am aware of (ninjas can be really sneaky) that teaches Ninjitsu happens to be Asian and in fact lives in Japan. :)
Dice23456789 1 year ago
@LryuzakilightX the grandmaster is azn i believe but he is really old he was an apprentice to the last ninja in their period dont quote me on this
attackmike 11 months ago
Well said, yarddogpirate. I see a lot of practicality in this system as well: that's what counts.
Lachdenan 2 years ago
I think that the techniques taught and learned in this system are very viable. They have almost everything. Sensei Duncan has put together a system for today's world. The ninja mystique created by Hollywood clouds the perception of a solid martial system founded on traditional japanese systems. I'm a 16 year student of Aikido and a prison guard. Sometimes the most effective means are the simplest and most difficult grasp.
yarddogpirate 2 years ago
Ur kinda breakin ur posture...Leaning foward on that elbow n not staying centered..U lose power n control by not keeping ur back straight..N also u can be reversed easier like that..If ur opponent has that sensitivity n feeling they can feel that slightest off set..
computron808 2 years ago
computron dont try to trick these people with that bs. its true you may lose balance but he's leaning in for a sweep besides the elbow he's throwing has all of his body weight. enough to drop a lot of people....whats strong a punch with your back straight or a punch with a twisting hip with you body weight behind it. nough said
circutwolf 2 years ago
This is really handy. Thank you so much :3
silverkitsune95 2 years ago
i dont beileve anyone will you do these techniques on them u would have to truly gain the oppurtunity on an unsuspecting person
bajanninja 2 years ago
Is Kawakami Sensei Koga or Iga. I don't know but his physical appearance really pulls me toward Koga :)
MyoushinRyuNinjutsu 2 years ago
No need to waste your time with worthless philosophical and egoistical views with detractor on the outside looking. Let the result of your effective training be the proof of your claims.Naysayers are involve in the paralysis of analysis, useless rhetoric that has no bases in reality of true Budo. Respect and Honour is the principle that bound a true Bushi and allows him to excel in his art of fighting not having to indulge always in the privilege of lineage. The truth comes with its own rewards.
karim1950 2 years ago 13
Your so right shihan.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
I also hope you realise that groin strikes, small joint manipulation and eye gouging are a very minor part of self-defensive skills (nowhere near as important as having solid bases in all three ranges of combat) and that any art that claims their art is inhibited by the disallowance of their use is probably a very weak one indeed...
ilikeaeroplanejelly 2 years ago
Thats makes no sense. If you constantly train to attack parts of the human body that inflict immediate damage, and then your put in a situation where you are restricted as to what you can do, of course your gonna be put at a disadvantage, because you cant do what you have been trained to do. And eye gouging, strikes to the throat etc are in no way minor parts. Those are effective and necessary parts. So that doesnt make that art weak. How silly and clearly unawares a claim.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
They are not necessary parts. You can knock someone out more easily on the street than you can in the ring.
They are not necessary at all. Most fights do not end due to these techniques. Any art which depends on them to be effective will be weak.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 2 years ago
You have no true reality base then, if you think those types of applications are weak. Any art that doesnt even consider uses them is in fact the weak one. because when someone uses them against you you will be injured and then see the reality of your weakness.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
It seems you train in a sport application and this explains your total lack of knowledge of what is really effective. Most self defense ( NOT SPORT FIGHTING) systems always incorporate such types of strike because they work. Why? well you cant strengthen you groin, eyes, or throat. They are always vulnerable areas and can instantly shock and stun a person.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
And do me a favor. Since you seem to know about fighting and self defense so much could you post some vids of you doing your art so we can critique what you do and see if you really know what your talking about.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
someone once said to me "don't stick it out if your afraid to get it cut off." any thoughts? do you know what karim1950 meant when he said "paralisis on analysis"? Just curious what that means....Thanks.
RekLawXeRo 2 years ago
It mean one who is involve in just criticism alone with no solution of their own. All questions with no answers.
karim1950 2 years ago
@SuubUrbanNinja And I say you are also correct. Thank you for sharing your are with us.
Hsitmuh 1 year ago
lol it looks like you've made it a job to go around disproving other forms of martial arts.
Groin strikes and eye gouging are minor part of self defensive skills?
Well a groin strike got my G/F out of being raped. And she has no martial arts experience. So I think you're the one who lives in fantasy land. Not ninjutsu practitioners.
And our techniques aren't designed for toe to toe fair fight combat in some duel. It's supposed to get rid of our opponent "in and out" efficiently.
ProfessorOhms 2 years ago 2
Right...
ilikeaeroplanejelly 2 years ago
continued from previous post...
I am a 6th dan in Bujinkan Ninjutsu (which means I'm still a beginner!)
I have been to japan to train with Hatsumi Sensei and I have never heard him insult othe martial artists. Your movement speaks for itself. Defend your position if you must, but I suggest (and I'm nobody!) that you take the high ground when others take the low ground.
discipleoftruth 2 years ago
"I am a 6th dan in Bujinkan Ninjutsu (which means I'm still a beginner!)"
6th Dan is Rokudan. That is an extremely high rank. Not everyone has it. 6th Kyu?
MyoushinRyuNinjutsu 2 years ago
My question is, why do you spend time and words discrediting Hatsumi Sensei? Has he said anything about you? Have you met him in the dojo personally and trained with him?
If you have nothing to prove then perhaps demonstrate that.
I know that there are some goofs that are disrespecting you and using Hatsumi Sensei's name to do so, but they're clearly not qualified to do so!! Don't sink to their level.
I am a 6th dan in Bujinkan Ninjutsu (which means I'm still a beginner!)
discipleoftruth 2 years ago
Its always members of the bujinkan who start with the disrespect to us and those who taught us. But I do agree , sinking to their level is'nt good , but its hard sometimes as the constant disrespect gets to a person.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
Thank you for your respectful reply.
I am willing to bet that anyone claiming to be Bujinkan who is being disrespectful towards you is of a very low rank.
None of the ranking practitioners I know would do so.
I do understand that being attacked can get to you though! It is always a test of our own character! Can we maintain the heart of a warrior in the midst of external chaos.
Blessings to you friend.
Peace
discipleoftruth 2 years ago 4
I always wanted to learn ninjutsu, but in India even a karate teacher can call himself a ninjutsu master and nothing will be done about it......so cant trust any of the schools around here! I just practice things given in the book ' secrets of the ninja' by grand master Ashida Kim...
spectraldistortion 2 years ago
Well, there's you first problem. Ashida Kim has been extensively debunked as a liar and a fraud. He has been taken up on his $10,000 challenge many times and backed out for various highly dubious reasons.
There is an ongoing investigation into this individual at Bullshido.
Not to mention the fact that he's more or less a joke to X-Kan Ninjutsu members, which is saying something considering their own systems.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 2 years ago
danm this is so awsome im a martial artist and ninjutsu is one style i always wanted to learn but they dont have any schools around the mississippi or lousiana area
gameproer 2 years ago
This is awesome!..
xxQu33nxb33xx 2 years ago
You guys are idiots! Goddamn, this guy is real and you shouldn't be questioning him. He's one of the few people that actually have some kind of idea on what ninjitsu is. Sure it may be gone (I do have some of the secrets however from an old japanese friend of mine), but none of those I can say. This man comes as close as it gets, listen to him... you might learn something.
demigod1010 2 years ago
We have every right to question him, especially since there is no evidence of any of it working in a spontaneous situation. I would say anything claiming to teach self-defence should be subject to plenty of questioning.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 2 years ago
Who told you there is no evidence of it working in any real situation?!
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
Provide evidence that they DO work, and I might change my mind. Because no evidence exists at the moment beyond the anecdotal type that Ninjutsu training works under pressure at all.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 2 years ago
I have evidence on my channel . Actual testimony.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
first I want to thank you.
1-are you a sensei?
2-Can you explain me plz where comes from the ninjutsu koga, koga yamabushi, and bujinkan plz? (I am more interested in Koga)
well and if you can tell me your opinion or experience in ninjutsu that will be great
thnaks again and have a good day
XLedahX 2 years ago
Yes I am a sensei. Koga ryu ninjutsu comes from the Koga region of Japan . Bujinkan comes from the iga region of Japan said to be of togakure ryu. My experience is that we do more realistic damage such as eye gouging, groin strikes and small joint breaks. Our movement is also swifter and wind like, not slow and stiff.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
Where can I see this art in practical use? It seems every martial arts is amazing in the dojo, but which work in practice (ignoring the fact it's dependent on the fighter during the actual fight)?
zjrykoa 2 years ago
Go to my video .Ninjutsu,does it work, its on my channel.One of students got into a situation where 2 guys tried to jump him and what we taught worked for him.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
Really? Can your lineage be historically traced to the believed-dead Koga line?
ilikeaeroplanejelly 2 years ago
Once again,I have to keep repeating my self. You guys keep WRONGLY talking about dead Koga line. Fujita was not the owner or soke of the entire koga ryu. He was only the soke of the wada ha ryu which was a style among 6 families out a total of 53. So stop with this dead koga nonsense. He never claim he was soke of the entire koga line. 53 clans and people say it ends with 1 man who they lied about saying he and unbelievably all his students die together in a bus crash.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
There is no historical link between any other Soke and the Koga line. No historical evidence at all. There wasn't even any evidence linking Fujita to Koga Ninjutsu. So unless you can provide actual evidence, stop making this claim.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 2 years ago
Wrong, Kawakami Sensei is a 21 soke of koga ryu from a form from the banke family. In japan he is accepted and recognized as such.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
No the disrespect is evident in the comments from people on Bullshido, and other such sites. WTH are you asking me for. I told you who I learned from.Now i guess you would have to question them. And its easy to question a video after the fact. Im sure you could watch a professional grapple match and question things that were done. Its easy to do that after the fact. And Dont quote website hater comment sections its weak and sorry.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
Asking for proof is not disrespectful. It is perfectly reasonable if you are claiming your art is effective in a spontaneous and violent scenario.
If someone claims this I expect them to at least provide evidence that it works in some kind of spontaneous and violent scenario. Even sparring footage would demonstrate this to a limited degree.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 2 years ago
We already have proof. I myself have 2 videos of testimony from my students who have gotten into real conflicts and say its worked for them. And we have self defense sparring footage as well in the triple R DVD. These are all on my channel.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
Anecdotal evidence is not applicable. Anyone can make up stories.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 2 years ago
Yeah, but the stories are not made up. The one with the navy has a police report to back up that the incident happened. Or is that your just on a macho ego trip and thus nothing really will satisfy you?! If so then just go your way.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
And thats exactly what it is. Your a 19 year old kid telling us with years and experience in the martial arts. Our system has been used to train Police, marines, navy seals, and your still telling us about what works and doesnt and proof??? Come on man, grow up and get past the egotistical, johnny bad boy , think your bad cause you think your a fighter now, cause you go to an MMA gym twice a week. Really get off it.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
And watch your mouth son, They have their credentials. They have been given their accolades,props, and awards for what they do and teach. They have been acknowledged as experts , in self defense,weapons etc. So show some respect. But thats just it, the internet has spawned lil female acting gossip message boards and the computer screen allows you to be disrespectful because you dont have to face that person.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
And we have many more testimonies of people who learned from Duncan, Karim and my self who got into REAL conflicts on "Da streets" and it worked for them. So we have our tangible proofs. Thats what we been trying to tell you boys. I have student now who is a former CO from a prison in NY and he said the CO's always were either trained in or looking to train in either Duncans ,Moses Powells, or Vee jitsu styles. thats it. Why, because they work and are proven combat effective.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
Well be done already! Your basic fundamentals of grappling are for grappling tournaments and thats cool. But Im not a tournament grappler. When you get into a scrap on the street, do you really think your going to have time to be a damn ace technical grappler? And do you think the theif or thug trying to attack you is going to be a ranking BJJ figher? Come on man. And did you not see the vid of my brown belt who said he used what I taught him and it work IN A REAL situation?! Damnit thats proof
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
No it is not. Anecdotal evidence is not realiable proof at all.
At least BJJ and "tournament grappling" techniques have been shown to work against resisting opponents who are trying to win. Not to mention closer approximations to street fights, such as MMA competition.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 2 years ago
Yeah with rules that protect them on the ground and from being seriously injured Against guys who aren't trying to kill or disable thier opponent, but to win a "sportsman" combat That doesn't seem like evidence to me either... Seems like evidence that BJJ will win sport combat, because it doesn't require serious injury to win. So you don't have to worry about violating rules or being frowned upon. BJJ in a street fight I could see applicable if it's one on one and no weapons involved
ProfessorOhms 2 years ago 3
You see this a where soo many people are wrong. Any art that calims to teach you how to fight against Multiple opponents with weapons is bullshit - you cant train for that realistically.
Arts like BJJ work because they train Alive against fully resisting opponents, not just compliant drills and forms.
tillerbear 2 years ago
actually ninjutsu katas are usually specialized for mutiple opponents, you shouldnt be so ignorant towards others forms of martial art
jillybean180 2 years ago 5
I think most kata, especially from japanese arts, can be applied to more than one opponent. Not just ninjutsu, but karate, jujutsu, aikido and others as well.
Dunno about other countries' arts however- they may also include "multiple opponents" applications in their pattern/forms/whatever equivalent.
Then again, it's difficult in the extreme to actually train for that situation- and even then there's a high chance you'd end up dead. Better to resolve peacefully where possible aye :P
Agnostagan 2 years ago
I don't know about BJJ, but regular Jujutsu has plenty of disarming and weapon techniques (keep in mind it was invented by samurai). They just don't use them in MMA because there aren't any weapons.
uberjim83 2 years ago
Well spoken. You are well informed on your martial history. To add to that, MMA is sport and and although there ar weapons in sport, the intent to learn behind it, is for the sake of demontration and form
owenspence 2 years ago
And this is my last comment. You have my dojo address on my channel, come and see my certificates on the wall, and speak to me in person if you want.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
Your wrong about Koga. You guys keep repeating the lie as if Fujita claimed to have all the Koga knowledge. He only represented the Wada ha Family which was said to be among 6 out of the 53 clans. So all of the koga did NOT die with him.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
And you know I find this whole new trend of internet nobodies demanding proof quite funny. Like who the hell are you or any body on that site or anywhere else to be demanding proof like your some kind of martial arts police. You want to see some proof. Come to my dojo and see the certificates of my ranks and permission to teach from my sensei hanging on the wall. LOL provide proof to some wankers on a damn internet message board like they are some kind of authorities. GTFOH!!
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
What do I need to provide proof to some guys on a website message board for?! I could careless. We get positive feed back all the time from people who see the benefit in our techniques. So Im not worried about internet message board haters. Like NAS said " hate me now, but wont stop now!" I studied under Master Ali Karim, and he studied under Grand Master Duncan. Thats my line of transmission. Take it or leave it.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
Have you been to koryuDOTcom? They have an article that Says Hatsumi has NOT been able to prove any direct transmission.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
Its didnt die. Only Fujitas wada ha families style. All koga ryu is was not from his family only. There were said to be 53 clans and even sub groups. So just give it up. Plus Kawakamai sensei is said to be 21 soke of a Koga ryu line different than Fujitas and He is endorsed by the Ninja Museum in japan and so far No disputes on it. Even the japanese Government has him do demos of Koga ryu. So please cut it. You bujinkulters and your commercial ploy to corner the market wont work!
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
@SuubUrbanNinja yeah that pretty much should sum everything up even today i still get criticized by iga guys saying when i learned way of the winds from Prof. Karim it was a scam but i dont pay attention because i have the unique ability to think for myself lol. N i believe the system itsself is very unique and very very deadly, very complicated to learn its no mcdojo art, dedication, pain, sweat n tears all the proponnets of a REAL martial art.
88RaiZo 1 year ago
...interesting,so hatsumi's ninjutsu isnt authentic?so where can i find a REAL dojo,cause im interested in learning...can you give me a link SuubUrbanNinja,nice technique btw
kingaddies1 2 years ago
When you say REAL dojo, what do you mean? Also where is your location?
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
I guess i meant im looking 4 a authentic ninjutsu school(I hear there's alot of fakes out there)im in da baltimore area...MD
kingaddies1 2 years ago
Did you know that in reality, the only historical ninjutsu techniques on record are only details about how spy, gather information, and how to break and enter without detection? In other words there is no record of actual Ninjutsu combat techniques. Most of what people teach as ninjutsu is a mix of samurai arts, jutjutsu, aikijujutsu etc. So in reality, what is an authentic ninjutsu school unless they are teaching spy, and information and breaking and entering lessons.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
There may be some fakes out there, so I suggest you visit the dojos and see what they are teaching. What I do is put stealth in our techniques since ninjutsu is the art of stealth. We blind opponents with eye gouging, we make evasive moves that put us in the blind spot of an opponent etc. We do bone breaking etc. So see whats being taught,and see if its combative stealth .If they teach you to kick box, or stand face to face with no evasion, then leave it alone.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
Then why keep calling yourselves a "ninjutsu" school? It just seems really confusing to me... Any women's selfdefense class can teach eye-gouges and such.
slamurai 2 years ago
But most dont. Thats where we stand out. Most who claim to teach historical ninjutsu, teach some unrealistic stiff moving nonsense. You see how we move, we move at swift speeds, we have evasion, blinded opponents, groin stikes, joint breaks etc. Real combat applications, real art of stealth combat =ninjutsu.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
isnt this Aikido?
dontdrunkimtalk 2 years ago
No, aikido is softer. They would'nt do such strikes.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
If you're going to go to great lengths to make people believe that what you are doing is ninjutsu (which clearly it isn't), you should at least bother to look up the word and spell it correctly!!
goingyellow 2 years ago
LOL, how do you spell correctly a word that comes from another language, that has totally different symbols not even letters for its words?! Take a hike, and mind your business. It clearly is way of the winds koga ryu ninjutsu/ninjitsu.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
How about you spell it the way the grandmaster of Ninjutsu says you should spell it? Also, Koga Ryu is a dead school, and anyone who claims to teach is clearly a fraud because it never got passed down. But your karate looks great, keep it up.
goingyellow 2 years ago
LOL , now I know your a joke, "HOW the grand master says you spell it"?? LOOOL. Who is the grand master of all ninjutsu and since when did he become the expert on how to spell it in english? And koga ryu is not dead, thast just a myth created for commercial gain. Kawakami in Japan is said to be a 21st soke of Koga ryu today,he is currently curator of the Nina Museum in Japan. LOL and you dont even know what karate is either.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
The grandmaster of ninjutsu is Masaaki Hatsumi, read any of his books and you'll see that he spells it "ninjutsu". I realize that the spelling of a foreign, non roman language word can be spelled different ways, but does that mean that anyone can spell the word however they want? So you're saying if I were to spell the word "neenjootsu", it would be correct? Also, anything that is not Bujinkan Taijutsu is not directly under Takamatsu Sensei, therefore it's not authentic ninjutsu. Read some books
goingyellow 2 years ago
I have read and Bujinkan has not authenticated itself. Your out of loop,Dr. Hatsumi was asked many years ago to provide documentation of some of his lineage for admittance to the Kobudo Shinkokai, perhaps the most reliable of the major organizations of traditional Japanese martial arts, and according to Donn Draeger, he was not able to provide documentation which proved his lineage to their satisfaction. Thus, there are uncertain areas in Dr. Hatsumi's lineage.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
Dr Karl Friday wrote "Hatsumi's titles to most of the ryuha he claims to be soke for come from Takamatsu Toshitsugu, who in turn claimed to have inherited them from Toda Masamitsu. It's worth noting, in this context, that in the third edition of the Bugei ryuha daijiten Watatani Kiyoshi stated that Takamatsu (who was, BTW, a personal friend of his) had created his "ninpo" ryuha and teachings from "ninja-gokko" ("childhood ninja games")..." So much for authentic ninjutsu. You need to read, I have
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
Only 3 out of the 9 families in the Bujinkan are Ninjutsu families, but these 9 schools are still taught together. This happened as a result of Japan's history. A lot of Ninja were given Samurai status and Samurai arts and Ninja arts became one. Hatsumi sensei gives themes every year and I have had the chance to train for a couple of years in Ninjutsu Ryuhas, and I have to say I wasn't too fascinated with the style as it is mostly evasion techniques of one or two strikes and running away.
goingyellow 2 years ago
If the majority of the ryuhas are not ninjutsu but Samurai,how could you claim whats real ninjutsu is , thats my point since its mixed. But since you claim only a background bujinkan, you have no position to judge the arts from Koga. Even Sensei tenemura of the genbukan says he has Koga ryu in his line. Thus again koga is not dead. Like I said that was a lie created to try and corner the market , but it didnt work and its not working.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
So about the authentication of Hatsumi's Ninjutsu. Some Gaijins asked Hatsumi to prove that his martial art is authentic and what he had as proof didn't convince these Gaijins.... hmm... Why don't you go to Japan and have Hatsumi perform something on you and you can judge for yourself if he really did just invent this martial art from "Child Ninja games"?
goingyellow 2 years ago
LOL gaijin, you were'nt paying attention to what you read. The Koryu association, and the Kobudo Shinkokai are not a bunch of gaijin. They are major traditional JAPANESE martial arts organizations. But it appears you are dooped by a japanese face. As long as you see a japanese face you believe it must be true. LOOL. And and Todo Masamitsu is not a Gaijin. Even Tanemura sensei a former student of Bujinkan left the bujinkan and said Hatsumi was not teaching true ninjutsu. So give it up!
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
You mentioned two names contesting hatsumi's authenticity, Donn Draeger and Karl Firday... and I found the article you got that quote from online by the american professor who claims to know more about ninjutsu and its history than Hatsumi Sensei. Keep practicing your Koga Karate, your movement reminds me of Ashida Kim.
goingyellow 2 years ago
You keep ignoring the Japanese Martial arts groups , and the statements of Todo Masamitsu, and Tenemura sensei, all japanese themselves who dispute it as well. You go on then and keep being a sucker for a japanse face, and stay in the bujin kult believing the myths. Too bad I dont see any videos of what you practice. You probably dont practice anything, just a lame internet wanna be martial art critic who wishes he could do what we do. And karate looks nothing like whats in this video.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
Hey yellow,do me a favor, post some videos of you doing what you call your style of ninjutsu.. You guys always criticise but never show any example of what you do or what you believe in ninjutsu.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
There are plenty of videos of real ninjutsu here. Look up Masaaki Hatsumi on youtube.
goingyellow 2 years ago
Thats not what I asked you! I asked you for videos of YOU doing so called real ninjutsu. And I already know about Hatsumi, and it says majority of their ryu are SAMURAI arts, so what is really ninjutsu?
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
hello man, I am studying ninjutsu Koga, can you tell me about Koga?
XLedahX 2 years ago
We can talk, just send me a message to my youtube message box.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
No such thing as Koga anymore... You're getting scammed.
slamurai 2 years ago
You dont know what your talking about, your trying to scam.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
at :54 secs in the instructor asks the guy to attack slow, then responds quickly. Is this a normal practise in this art you study?
(No disrespect meant, just curious)
RekLawXeRo 2 years ago
Where did I say quickly after I had just said slow? I did'nt hear that part. We do show the techniques fast or at combat speed 1st, then slow it down for the students to see and learn the details.
SuubUrbanNinja 2 years ago
ahhh Thank you.
RekLawXeRo 2 years ago
Nice techniques, is that ninjutsu? Looks familiar though...LOL, check out Ali Shabazz
sleepyfattiger 2 years ago
Yep, ninjitsu.
SeijiiNakamaru 2 years ago
Excellent technique, articulated very well and freaking devastating thanks for letting us into your Dojo!
SACREDFIREDOJOSHOW 2 years ago
lol i think that guy will tap out if you just punch in the groin xD
Martialsmash 3 years ago
Good, but not as comprehensively dominating as bjj. It seems to me that if someone were to move in an unexpected direction the whole routine would be thrown off. Besides, what if your training causes you to sidestep and go for the elbow when they were actually just feinting? I dunno, I'm always sceptical of any technique that tells you to respond to a strike with a complex grab.
ironmanalasdair 3 years ago
But Doesnt BJJ have you respond to strikes with grabs and grappling? So I dont understand what you mean by being skeptical.
SuubUrbanNinja 3 years ago
in real life it may only take one ore two strikes to end it
stri8ted 3 years ago
This is just training. The joy of ninjutsu is the ability to react to any situation. These are just examples of what can be done. It's all feeling in a real experience. Training to know what that feels like is what we do in the Bujinkan. Plus, that ground fighting can get you into trouble. If you rely to heavily on one element and it is taken from you, then you lose any advantage your training ever gave you.
Ironbullet07 2 years ago
Is it possible to learn these things by observing it? LOL what a stupid question!
ray1042 3 years ago
Yep, it's possible. Usually you have to be a pretty good martial artist before you can learn it the first time correctly, but most untrained people try and do it wrong.
SeijiiNakamaru 2 years ago
Those Black Panthers are getting good!
TNUCARU 3 years ago
wow that shit is intense damn
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coolest shit ever
123xmaster 3 years ago
i first read Ninjitsu evasion and counter strike
O.o do you understan? COUNTERSTRIKE!
BastuBasti 3 years ago 3
that was probably the nicest koshinage ive ever seen.
really impressive, great video
ninjiujitsu1 3 years ago
obviously Orbitronio you nkow nothing. ninjistzu
is the art of perfectly focusing the right amount of energy to disable your opponent. and also he is just demonstrating not full on fighting
krevv1 3 years ago
too much movements while hitting the attacker. could do same damage or worse with pressure points and a throw. Remember, ninja's are lazy and don't like to use a lot of their energy
Orbitronio 3 years ago
Pressure points are highly ineffective in the grand scheme of things, because not all pressure points are the same on all people.. Ninjitsu is serious because it doesn't always use pressure points, but NERVE ENDINGS, which are universal.. too much movement? He's not being attacked man, he's teaching a class.
richp860 3 years ago
its not that were lazy,we use the right amount of energy for the right situations,and keep calm in life or death situations.anyway i always thought that mma guys use too much energy,thats just my opinion.
PhoenixNinjaBlack 3 years ago
" ninja are lazy " -you said-... When you are going to carry a ton of gravel, do you use a truck? or would you rather do it by carrieng shovel-by-shovel ( just as to "not be lazy") ?, Why shovel my way out of trouble, when I OWN a DUMPSTER TRUCK?
miguelhernandez7 3 years ago 2
lmao to ur last sentence
TranceRocker227 3 years ago
Remember? Remember from where? or What? Do you know that ninjitsu includes meditation and other practices for harnessing and focusing energy? Agreed excessive movements are to be avoided, but that's where you bridge the gap between forms and practical application.
brooklyninja 3 years ago
In gym everyone is a superman i want to see you in real situation!!!!
supertiler 3 years ago
I agree so many things these "experts" don't teach you,which are just not going to work under heat, adrenaline pumping, and moving at full speed its really hard to hit, becasue your blood pressure increases and causes loss of balance, basically the training isn't adequate for the job. do boxing or kickboxing MMA and Judo are also really helpfull.
krakalin 3 years ago
What you say is bullshit! your blood pressure increases if you hold your breath dering the proses lol. And youl lose balance if you dont train hard.
threat645 3 years ago
erm.. that's what training is for.. you push your body beyond its current limits. understand?
Ontite 3 years ago
if you really want to learn how to defend yourself, learn Krav Maga, Silat, or some other self defense system used by a major police or military establishment.
Forget boxing/kickboxing, MMA, and especially Judo. You'll end up getting yourself killed.
50crowley 3 years ago
Yes, I've been saying that forever to these people.. yoshinkan aikido, japanese jiujitsu, krav maga, hapkido, combat 56, silat is cool too.. those are where it's at. Ninjitsu is some good stuff too.
richp860 3 years ago
What are your credentials? What kind of attack are you talking about defending? How many opponents? Are you saying that your ability to trade blows to the head wouldn't be improved by being in a ring? Or that kickboxing in the ring wouldn't condition you and your ability to defend/attack the body? Sure once weapons are involved a more militaristic style would be better to train for that area. But that can't replace the unarmed combat experience gained from Full contact Karate/boxing/kickboxing
brooklyninja 3 years ago
hello, although I respect your point of view, i think, was your comment appropiate? I think NOT. I am a 40 year old handicapped man, Im missing one foot and therefore walk crooked. My experience with ninjutsu has saved my life ( in the streets) many a time. Now, Me think if a one-footed man can ( like they say) " kick your...", Me think this is no "superman" thing, but rahter, a WAY OF LIFE. So I´d like to kindly ask you to apologize to the Sensei. Please, have a great day.
miguelhernandez7 3 years ago
Excellent
sallee5 3 years ago
Nice counters. I like the Samurai / Ninja related arts (Japanese Jujitsu, Taijitsu, Aikido etc.) mostly for their weapon defenses.The problem with many MMA and BJJ schools is that they do not teach weapon defense training.
haszK 3 years ago 6
or multiple opponent scenarios
chefkoo 3 years ago 4
How many years do you trained? In my country there is Ninjutsu school too. Teachers have bujinkan degree, i don't really know what that means, and if it's good. I think i wan't to learn this. By the way, is there and any age restriction to this? I guess none.
Serdzass 3 years ago
dude hit him in the nuts
shortgiant21 3 years ago
This doesn't look like Ninjutsu at all. More like a hybrid karate/jujutsu style while wearing a black gi. Furthermore, this dude keeps busting out the "Oss!" line after the completion of every move, which is indicative of karate and not ninjutsu (at least, if you consider Bujinkan the "real" ninjutsu, as they don't use the "Oss" line in Bujinkan). Don't get me wrong, this guy could certainly kick some ass and "get out the way" as he so eloquently states. But it doesn't look like ninjutsu.
TigerGJG 3 years ago
saying ous has become common place among the people in many of the seminars we have attended. And these seminars have practitioners of different arts. So judging if its real or not by saying or not saying ous is really silly.
And can you tell me exactly what ninjutsu is supposed to look like? I mean Genbukan looks different than Bujinkan but they both claim to be ninjutsu. Robert Bussey, Stephen Hayes both students of Hatsumi yet look different in their styles of ninjitsu. Are they not real?
SuubUrbanNinja 3 years ago
I completely agree - a lot of technique in Eastern arts are interchangable with some inevitable variation. But he is wrong.. this doe not look like karate to me at all with the style of blocking performed and the takedowns/throws. Most karate is a hard-blocking, blow for blow type of style.. this is far more elusive and circular in terms of counter-striking.
richp860 3 years ago
I agree.. looks nothing like karate to me at all. The blocking style, breaking your opponent off his center, the throwing, etc. Looks entirely foreign from karate. I do aikido, so I enjoy ninjitsu.. the anticipation and coordinated energy is where it's at, in my opinion.
richp860 3 years ago
Wing Chun, Shaolin, Chin na etc all look different in application but all are said to be kung fu. There were dozens of Ninja Clans, from the iga and koga regions of the japan, do you think they all looked the same, you dont think they had diferent styles of ninjutsu?? Is all ninjutsu supposed to look the same? Is Koga supposed to look the exact same as Iga?
SuubUrbanNinja 3 years ago
You are absolutely right, and I apologize. As you suggested - what is "real"? I guess all this "ninja" hype is the problem. People that assume that only Hatsumi is a "real" ninja and everyone else is a fraud. But in the end, who cares whether or not an art is 1,000 years old or 10 years old? As long as it works, right? But my argument is - why call it ninjutsu then?
TigerGJG 3 years ago
shaolin is not a style of kung fu... same as this isnt ninjutsu... if it is ninjutsu it must be passed down from a school master to master uninterupted... im assuming as you claim teaching rank you can back up your claim with the lineage and your authentication and certification? what regions ninjutsu do you claim to study?
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
Come visit our dojo, and I'll talk to you about what you want to know.
SuubUrbanNinja 3 years ago
Explain to me why it isnt nijutsu?
SuubUrbanNinja 3 years ago
I just checked your page. ONCE AGAIN ANOTHER internet expert with no videos of their own to show whats real ninjutsu or real what ever martial arts. Forget it , I dont want to hear any further from you , So disregard my question to you. Your done hear.
SuubUrbanNinja 3 years ago
Handled like a TRUE martial artist (that wasn't sarcasm so don't worry)
~Pete
navysealboy62 3 years ago
I have read 8 pages of your comments and peoples ignorance in which the seem to defend and fight for. I never could understand why people fight with pride to maintain such strong degrees of stupidity. You are well versed and truly knowledgeable in your art. You respond a lot to these empty heads.
teop 2 years ago
I also applaud you on your constant effort in teaching......putting effort to teach even the well closed minds of the many that express mostly a multitude of cliched comments. In all of your knowing know this, those that want to see will see as well as those that want to stay blind will stay blind no matter how good the light(truth) is. I will be keeping a lookout for your vids.
teop 2 years ago
in the end its all bout reflex and wits and guts.. technique is just an idea to inflict pain..
afiqsince86 3 years ago
i agree, you cant rely too heavily on technique becuase its not perfect, and it doesnt help with every situation, you need wits and guts to improvise and change it up to stay alive
DriftRoach 3 years ago
yes technique is kinda like a game plan. remember what tyson said. "everyone has a gameplan until they get punched in the face" or something like that.
switchfooted1987 3 years ago
of course in a real fight it wudnt go perfect like in the demostration given here but it can be done. the evasion and the elbow would be more than enough to help win a fight without the throw. tbh trying to throw someone who is bigger than you in a real fight isnt ideal unless your controlling the fight- aka he's already gone/ko'd.
joereidy3 3 years ago
actually that type of throw that the guy does, is easy. If youu do it properly yo can throw pretty much any1 of any size because you are pushing in his central area of gravity, with yours, upsettin his balance, making him easy to just throw or trip him. your hip is kind of like a lever too when your throwin him. making big guys a breeze to throw
dude1rules 3 years ago
holy fuck, its like "k, do this, and hold like this and *BOOM* " -body implanted in the mat. everytime i heard that noise i shook a bit. too bad theres no shit like this in canada where i live..
Kyle17880000 3 years ago
hey lew, how r u doing man? great video I spoke with u a Few months back {bujinkan guy mel } from chicago. your videos are getting better brother keep up the good work.
maceioninjutsu 3 years ago
everyone has theory in combat we shouldn't discredit anyone its all about understanding whats works repetition on small guys quick guys big guys and the strong ones u really dont have to prove urself to anyone except urself and the weak and to me thats budo
bujinkan0 3 years ago
ive been in a shit load of meaningless street fights, but once i had my first real fight (yes cage fights are far more real) i had to register my body as a legal weapon and could no longer go out looking for trouble. i can assure you that your boney ass would get raped on the streets by a large, atheletic, and aggressive attacker. keep fantasizing about the effectiveness of all your fancy crap, you've never been in a real fight. and your rediculous throw at the end leaves your back open.
nicerebound 3 years ago
LOL " register your body as a legal weapon" Now I know for sure that a you BSer! And how the hell is cage fight (that has referee, rules) far more real than a fight on the street ( that has no rules and no referee to stop the fight when your getting your ass beat bad? If a large ,atheletic, and agressive attacker came at me, Im pulling out one of my weapons and even up the odds. Remember this ,you FAKER, I do ninjutsu, we use weapons too!
SuubUrbanNinja 3 years ago
And the throw at the end leaves nothing open as the attacker just got forearmed to the back of his neck which would most surely have either knocked him out of with out a doubt dazed him making it a cake walk for the throw. That forearm to the back of the neck is so dangerous your "Far More Real" cage fight rules dont even allow such strikes to the back of the head neck area. See once again you show you lack knowledge of martial combat and sciences.
SuubUrbanNinja 3 years ago
Lastly you proved your a joke with that "register my body as a legal weapon" BS! LOL . Its supposed to be as a "Lethal weapon" not legal weapon and in reality there is no such requirement by law in any state in the US or any nation I know of to register a person as a lethal weapon LOL. Take a hike kid, your done here!
SuubUrbanNinja 3 years ago
SuubUrbanNinja, you are correct. You never have to "register" your body as a lethal weapon, thats an urban myth. You know "nicerebound" saw that shit on "Three's Company" when Mr. Furley said he knows karate and his hands are registered as a lethal weapon. Haha, you called his bluff!
TheRealDrache 3 years ago