@LystAP But if you take a small army, defeat a nations powerful disciplined army you demoralize the nation. Just look at what Attila did to Rome's armies.
@SupaTROopa2 True, but also irrelevant. Rome was already in decline, and Attila nearly got himself killed at Chalons. After his death, the Hunnic Empire collapsed on itself.
@LystAP Regardless of Rome's decline, Attila's near death experience or the collapse of his empire prior to his death. The battles he fought against the Eastern Romans scared them shitless.
@SupaTROopa2 It did scare them, but nothing ever came out of it. Attila's empire was held together mostly by fear of the Huns; after he died, no one was afraid of them anymore, and rebellions popped up everywhere.
@LystAP Yes, what you say is true, the point how ever I'm trying to convey is in the few early battles Attila fought against the Eastern Romans were enough to scare them enough into not wanting to engage him anymore, which they showed by trying to negotiate a ceasefire. Thus concluding, "The best way to fight a war, is to not have to fight at all." Can not always be the most common sense course of action.
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@LystAP One of the main reason why the Eastern Roman or Byzantine Empire was able to last for 1000 years was their use of diplomacy. Whenever there are external threats to the empire, they did not immediately sent troops like the old Roman Empire would do. Instead they sent ambassadors to them and had spies to gather as much as intellligence as possible. The empire understood that war was expensive in terms of manpower and resources. War is only fought as a final resort.
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lol. as i watch this, i remember how SunTzu's book was not meant to be learned and mastered by reading it. in the ancient world, books were meant to be a review guide after mastery, from a living master. and also, that it's impossible to translate Sun Tzu accurately. because his ideas were so interconnected and different than how we or the modern Chinese use those words. its not really a simple book, and just merely reading it, you only learn very little of his concepts.
You have to understand that when Sun Tzu wrote his book in 500BC, China (actually Chinese tribes and kingdoms because China did not exist as a unified state) was the superpower of the East. At that time, Europe was ruled by the Greeks and Romans. Other non-GrecoRoman european kingdoms and tribes were simply uncultured barbarian savages without civilisation (literally incapable of any writing let alone producing a book). In that regard, Sun Tzu's book was the best of the best in the east or west.
@Bratcipheo *Ahem* And I quote- "At that time, Europe was ruled by the Greeks and Romans. Other non-GrecoRoman...literally incapable of any writing let alone producing a book." NON CO ROMAN. Who do you think the Iliad was written by?
You expect me to know the iliad, but not know who wrote it?
The comment we talk about is flawed, as the first part is true, but the sentence"In that regard, Sun thu's book was the best of the best in the east or west"
He's disregarding a whole culture to make his point. Even the Egypts, so it's a very situational comment and therefore rubbish.
@Bratcipheo thats just one example of what u can expect from internet trolls, "unitedkorean" that name says it all. also “china did not exist as a whole” is totally irrelevant and false, the collapse of zhou dynasty(during which china was unified) lead to the spring and autumn period
@UnitedKorean I'm sorry but your guidelines for "civilization" are a bit off. Australian Aboriginals, the worlds oldest continuing culture, had a deep culture yet were considered "uncultured" because people misunderstood their culture. Culture does not rely on 1 single point to be relevant. Writing a book is not the only way a people could be considered "cultured".
why am i watching this? well if everyone is informed, u should know china is on the rise to be the next world superpower. i hope china is smarter than how we acted during korea. all it takes is for some monarch asshole who thinks hes smart to overshadow a true genius like sun-tzu. if ever a war of the superpowers, we need the reincarnation of sun-tzu to lead china, and we shall surely win. thank you for this video.
My guess is that Sun Tzu just got really really happy about his achievement and..overdosed on opium. A thing like that would be covered up, i'm pretty sure.
I´m sure that they´re studying Sun Tzu at WestPoint, but the American politicians don´t seem to have learned anything.
They´re behaving like medieval European warlords; forming shaky coalitions and attacking almost at random, wanting the loot here and now. That´s greed, not strategy.
They´ve learned nothing.
China is constructing satellites and aircraft carriers.
I´m eager to see if the Chinese politicians have learned their lesson better.
@MarshalRedDog Look at Afghanistan and Iraq. After defeating the nations' governments, US soldiers and their allies are still fighting the irregulars. Knowing that it is impossible face the US soldiers in a conventional warfare, the insurgents turned to querrila warfare. US military leaders still believe that their superior firepower will bring their enemies to its knee. They had already done that in Vietnam and still lost the war.
@MrLantean The only way to fight an irregular force is to play by their rules and denying them access to the terrain. For instance, the Filipino Battalion Combat Teams(BCTs) learned that the hard way during the Huk rebellion and Moro Uprisings(both 1946-1954). Especially when fighting the North Korean guerrillas after the Battle of Inchon.
@quote3000 One of the most successful campaign against irregulars and insurgency took place during the Malayan Emergency. From 1948 to 1960, British and Commonwealth forces fought against Communist insurgents who aimed to create a Communist state in British ruled Malaya. Soldiers were trained in jungle warfare and learned from aboriginal inhabitants to track down Communist insurgents. British authorities learned to win the support from local population and protect them from the insurgents.
@MrLantean Neat, I didn't know about that the British learning how to fight guerrilla combatants! I always thought that would be more of the Australian/New Zelander turf.
@quote3000 What the Australians learned in Malaya were put to use in Vietnam. British and Commonwealth troops are more successful than the Americans in dealing with guerilla combatants. Australian soldiers were more successful in tracking Viet Cong guerrillas and took time and patient to achieve it. Americans other hand prefered to use their firepower and hoped to destroy their enemies in one strike. They still have such mentality when dealing with insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan.
@quote3000 Fighting guerilla combatants requires patient and perseverance. It is better to win the support from local populations where the guerillas get their supplies and additional manpower. It is also very important to isolate the guerillas from the local populations. The British in Malaya established fenced village communities with curfew to prevent supplies from reaching the Communist guerillas. Various facilities like medical were provided as sign of good will from British authorities.
@MrLantean Indeed. The Filipinos did the same when fighting the Huks. At first the Ninita Unit, a precursor to the BCTs were resorting to guerrilla-style tactics yet resorted to taking out local supporters in the first years(1946-9) of the rebellion until Ramon Magsaysay rose to power and retooled the Unit to simply hitting the mountains, rivers, swamps, plains, grasslands, and jungles; especially with anti-communist propaganda.
@quote3000 The purpose of guerilla warfare is to wear their enemies by exhausting their manpower and supplies. Guerillas always avoid battle that they cannot win and always chose battles that give them the edge. The best way to fight them is to engage them on their own turf. British and Commonwealth troops understood this but not the Americans. Even today, Americans are still having problems with insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan.
@MrLantean Going back to either Sun Tzu, Onasander, Aeneas, or Xenophon, it all comes down to who ever wins over the civilian population in order to achieve total victory in guerrilla and anti-guerrilla combat. BTW have you read the latter three? If not I recommend them all!
@quote3000 True, gaining support from the civilian populations is vital. This how the British managed to defeat Communist insurgents in Malaya. In Vietnam, the Americans were not doing well in winning support from civilian population. Unable to distinguish from friend or foe had led to the disastrious My Lai massacre. After the incident, many neutral and anti-Communist civilians turned to support the Communist insurgents.
@MrLantean Not to mention that 75% of the local civilian population in Vietnam was pretty much against the US troops from the start; at the same time, the American people were against the war too, ultimately leading to the moral of the American army's defeat and high casualty rate.
fair enough everyones goin on about all these strategies in war but likee sun Tzu said the best thing to do is avoid war as their are big consequences.
If anyone truly know about the 300 Spartans, as one may say, I wonder how good Sun Tzu would fair against them. If my memory serves me correctly, they too, made no mistakes as they were trapped and survived longer than any others. Strength and Knowledge or Knowledge is power. I wonder which is representing which? :D
I love the fact how dramatic they make the battle when actaullly it's nothing like that..what really happen they got arrowed to death and then charged at the end...
In many ways Sun Tzu is the Chinese Machiavelli. The end justifies the means. That is why I can't see true Christians can ever be in the ranks of politics, and military ranks. "praise the Lord and pass the ammunition" what blaspheme. But this is what
Sun Tzu taught to establish a moral cause for wars. The reality is war is immoral and his other motives. example, The war between the states was not for freeing slaves. Even current wars. It is so sad lives scraficed by decisions of a few elites.
You can't go to war based on imagination and exercise of thoughts to simulate situations without full comprehension of proven wisdom & knowledge of laws governing successful warfare. Many of Sun Tzu's principles wouldn't have been used if one lacks the insight, self control, and wisdom to execute them. Therefore I disagree with riazera 's comment. late year, General Lee wasn't in the right frame of mind and have not known Sun Tzu, otherwise, a better President than Lying Ape. Hine sight is 100%
Sun Tzu and the art of war is kind of like Einstein and relativity. Einstein didn't create anything new, but rather just recognized an increasingly evident but unrecognized universal truth and went from there. Sun Tzu was both brilliant and lucky enough to be the first to recognize the universal truths of war and to write it down. It's not his truth but rather a universal wisdom that people could eventually realize on their own. Sun Tzu just points you in the right direction.
Notice in 3:21-3:30 Sun Tzu's soldiers follow him but in 3:31-3:39 Nang Wah's (probably misspelled) soldiers stand around and don't follow him. That probably means he's a bad general since his troops hate him.
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FDR vs Hitler. Both took power/office 1933 their countries unemployed 25-30%. 6-8 years later Germany rate 2% USA still 20%. How? Hitler threw off International Bankers they HATE him 4 it still.
@HotZetiGer i think what he says is true somewhat, its true the Mongols were brilliant generals but they were too cruel and ...i dont know to say this one but because of their lack of understanding of the culture of people they conquered they were either assimilated into the culture or were dethroned pretty quickly. the Mongolian empire like Alexanders empire collapsed pretty fast, sure they left a legacy that changed the world but did they succeed in what they wanted to achieve? definitely not.
@eidius1989 Yep foreigners are quit fanatic about their religion and superiority of their way of life known as culture. Yet there are ppl who pollute Mother Earth, grow like rats and corrupt minds of many with their true religion. What can 13th century nomads less than half million can do about it. Make them all nomads? Pagan?
@eidius1989 Am I talking to an idiot? You said Mongols have small brain to understand other`s culture & assimilated into other cultures. =it means Mongols did not keep their culture. You join the culture after you understand and accept it. You also said Mongols were too cruel =means taking no prisoners and no slaves. Taking slaves will slow military compaign.
@HotZetiGer first i never said they had small brains but lacked a strong culture, why else would they become Muslims? did the people they conquered somehow become Mongols? no, they did not. Greeks conquered Persia and Hellenized it, what did the Mongols do? nothing, also, you do not need to wipe out 2/3s of an entire population, thats genocide not conquest. people don't take entire nations as slaves what the fuck are you talking about? you are both ignorant and immature therefore a waste of time
@eidius1989 You said Mongol empire collapsed too quickly =means Mongols were outnumbered, too few Mongols. You said Mongols left a legacy but did not succeed in what they wanted -Oh yeah everyone knows name Mongol. So we did not take enough revenge for our 500 mechants?
@TheServantCharles Maybe you evolved from something else maybe turtle. Tibetians Buddhism claims we are evolved from monkeys. I thought real Chinese use word pig for Mongols. What kind of Chinaman are you? Anywayz why Chinese act like slaves doing all the dirty job for foreigners and pollute homeland?
@TheServantCharles lol You have no shame! any Mianzi? Chinese generals are joke compare to Nomadic rulers like Attila, Genghis khaan, Hubilai khaan, Manchu Nurhachi...etc What a joke art of war for losers.
@TheServantCharles oh yes I was wrong to attack your fortress. I`m so afraid of you, Now I`m running away! Don`t you wanna come out from your wall and chase me? come on come out!
@TheServantCharles Yep you need to give more land to China towns. Sun Tzu's strategic genius, it merely demonstrates your inability to understand the proper context of what they....
This was likely written by Sun Pin 350bc, who made up a "Sun Tzu" in a from his perspective ancient history in order to have its book taken more seriously. Sun Pin was also a brilliant general. In the time of the state of Wu, there were no armies trained well enough to perform actions like in this documentary. However, i've learned things and enjoyed watching and thats what its all about isnt it?
Slapping someone in the face is one thing, facing armies of hundreds of thousand men, before there is even a conflict is another.
What Sun Tzu and later Sun Bin wrote are modern 19th & 20th century military tactics,
Sun Tzu and Art of War is historic because he didn't have access to modern military literature and wrote his work more than a millenia ago. Thats why his work is revered.
@ivarunmehta His book was translated into European languages in the 18th century,when the world was already under European control. Modern warfare is based on the germans:Clausewitz and the Blitzkrieg. Sun Tzu isn't even considered real and even if he was real he couldn't have influenced anything modern outside Asia because during his time there were no flying machines.
I didn't mean to imply that Art of War influenced modern military tactical and strategic decision making.
My point is Art of War is among the very 1st detailed verifiable piece of work on warfare(if not the very 1st in history in its depth, detail, and scope)
and its age makes its valuable hence it is given such prominence.
Wars before it would have had some strategies but we don't have texts for them on such a scale as we have with Art of War & what it details.
@unurautare2 it's not about modern warfare tactics it's all the main principles of war itself doesn't matter if it's ancient or modern warfare it's just strictly on war, no matter what era the of principles war never change only the technology we use to fight them n_n
I am surprised not to see more comments on the clear disregard of the Sun Tsu principles by the americans in the latest, so called wars against Terrorism over the last 7 odd years. I will not be surprised if we see some documentary a few years from now talking about the pathetic fail of the US military in Iraq and Afganistan for the exact reasons mentioned in this series.
war is neccessary by only the means of stablilization in which a particular culture or people are not eradicated. As far as the government is concerned its is for politcal gains. As most of the anti-war critics see war as kill kill kill. In world war 2 that is what war was about for germans and russians. well mainly all. That war was about killing. However, most have a reason and is well thought out. what is peace without war, and what is life without death. We can only learn from the worst
How is this great, all you fucking retards who like war will have war, when the bomb hits your fucking house and rips your kid into four I want to see you smiling and thinking " I love war". Bunch of FUCKING RETARDS.
@Redcaster916 I like war...that is Total War, you knwo the video game series? That shit's awesome but what's funny is that Sun Tzu's principles apply there too, I won a fight with 121 men vs 1100 men and I still won
Happened to me to, Had only three russian infantry divisions and several militia guarding my fort which eventually came under attack by Sweedish rebels. The last part of the fight eventually ended up right in the front door of the fort with what remained of my forces completely surrounded, somehow all of the enemy regiments lost their morale and fled.
@Redcaster916 u don't get it don't u? How do u wish to end something if u don't understand it? Besides the underline of Art of War is to win without fighting if possible. "to fight a thousand battles & gain a thousand victories is not supreme victory, to subdue an enemy without fighting is the acme of the supreme commander" -sun tzu
IDk but i guess the King thought that the purpose of Sun Tzu was over and he secretly executed him for being to powerful for his comfort like Surenas after the Roman defeat at his hands by the Parthians at the battle of Carrhae. Great people dont just disappear into the mist.
and why do we talk so much about the great Hannibal and not somuch about Sun Tzu. Alexander would be a muppet in his face; while he struggled in today's Pakistan with a much larger army waiting to defend itself in the famed but then nacent "Maurya Empire"
I'm working on a board game titled "Art of War" that bases victory upon the principles of Sun Tzu's teachings; battles are won through morale, not destruction; deception through spies and indirect attacks; winning the will of the people, etc, an entire campaign between 2 players trying to achieve 2 very different specific goals.
@jimothy183 But besiege requires some time, and the holder of the elevated position might get reinforcement, that's even more relevant today since the communcation technology is well developed and the reinforcement may come in within hours
For all the emphasis you Americans put on sun tzu, you seem to avoid his advices most of the time. 9 Years in AFG and counting. Then there was Vietnam. And there is also Iraq.
Never go into battle without knowing what's ahead and without knowing your enemy. Well, you guys went in and removed Saddam just for it to be replaced by the Iranian coalition. Bravo!
@badpanda84 yes that might be true, but at the cost of the nation. Also I think the last chapter on spies is important, but however some nations rather spend a million dollars on a temporary artificial lake as that is more important on their agenda. Chapter 9 of art of war relating to the use of spies. Naturally if they pay your run of the mill, civil servant more than they pay a spy; why would that spy want 2 work for that nation??-stupid right?
@Wolfsbane909 Also regarding spys now with new techonlogy such as radars,, survallience drones etc.. it would be alot easier to get information. its all done my robots and machines now adays as oppose to acutal spies
@badpanda84 LOL sure why not, just keep telling urself that. Oh u have no idea how the world has changed but somethings remain the same, its still a fucked-up dog eat dog world out there, yes people will take full advantage of one's charitable nature, like as always this never changes..
Both highest rated comments are, to me, stupidity.
Nobody has to have gone to war, nor has to have read the *said* greatest book on war of all time to know what war is about. People have the power of imagination to simulate situations and exercise their thoughts over things they never lived, and even over things that never happened.
With or without Sun Tzu, many of the principles described in here would have been used when called.
@rlazera - fair coment but thats just it sun tzu's brilliance is that he put down on paper the principles of miltary warfare. Most of it may seem obvious but unfortunately itis not so obvious until someone poins them out , say like gravity and an apple falling to the ground. On top of that the writings shows a very clear and in depth knowledge of warfare and guiding principles, this was written in 500BC over 2500 yrs ago, not in the warm libraries of Harvard or Yale
Yes, I think that the fact that the Chinese were literate and a bunch of warring nations during the time (war being a constant reality) when other groups and nations were mostly illiterate and did think it important to write down a "how to do war" manual better explains why such a book was first put together in ancient China.
Successful ancient generals have deployed the tactics Sun Tzu outlines without ever having read the book or heard of it.
@rlazera Ignorant, the will to learn and to know what you learn is helping you is the only principle and truth to win a war. Lee was obviously a person who did not learn after defeats.
@rlazera This movie makes no sense! At first Chinese dude taught : Put men into life and death situation and they will fight like supermen. American general did so at 0:41 , and everyone tried their best but died! it is not the age of sword and arrow! This is matter of luck. Anywayz this Chinese snake strategy never worked on nomads.
@bluesman89666 If you don't have a wheel and you have the need, BAM! The wheel is a good example because whoever first invented the wheel sure was not the only. Or do you think if that primitive dude had never been born we would never have invented any wheels at all? Sure the wheel as invented for one specific application and then copied into another ones, but then again sure there were another tribes where there were no wheels and once one was needed one was invented. This simple.
these thinks are learned by trial and error in the case of war peoples lives. sun tzu's techniques saved lives and time thats why he was so great. yes eventually someone else would have thought of it but sun tzu DID first .
Blood, hair, and eyeballs everywhere? Sorry that just sounds wierd, anyway am I wrong in thinking that many of his tactics apply to the “underdog” small army fighting a larger army, or would they still be applicable for a larger army fighting a smaller army, it seems things like deception and indirect attacks would hold less importance, but maybe that’s my chess mind talking not GO style?
Blood, hair, and eyeballs everywhere? Sorry that just sounds wierd, anyway am I wrong in thinking that many of his tactics apply to the “underdog” small army fighting a larger army, or would they still be applicable for a larger army fighting a smaller army, it seems things like deception and indirect attacks would hold less importance, but maybe that’s my chess mind talking not GO style?
At around 8:26-27, you can hear a slight sound in the background that sounds like a fart :)). Anyways, Sun Tzu's teachings can be learned but none shall ever practice its methods to perfection. The desire to corrupt his teachings with our pride, and lust for power is always there....
It may have been said already....but, I believe that it would be less American casualties and more flawless victories if the US made it imparative to practice Sun Tzu's methods in modern warfare, you would think because of our advanced technology, they would plan and strategize meticulously, but you know big bad-ass America. But that's just MY opinion.
I respect sun tsus tactics but for Gods sake, i hate it when they make it out as if you will win every single battle if you follow his book. And that if you lost, you most definitely did not follow it.
In a war, there will always be a winner and loser. Just cos one lost, doesnt mean they used crap tactics. it just means the other general was better. Many times the situation determines victory and its beyond ones control.
Sometimes, regardless of the tactics one uses, one will just lose simply cos the siutation was out of his favour or there were unforeseen problems. just cos one tactic worked in one battle, doesnt mean it will work later for another.
I have the book and love it but dont like the fact they are making it out as if sun tsus book is some miracle.
@FeelFree3 Cause the Chinese were not united and were fighting each other in a civil war - the nationalists vs. the communists. They were also technologically more backward in military weapons. The Japanese were united in comparison, more well-equipped and were devoted to the emperor.
@Kr4zyAc3 Yeah, but that was before that. By that time they attacked china, they were unified, while china was still in a constant state of unrest, toppling over the qing gov.t and calling for revolution, then civil war.
The creators of this document make me believe that they were upset that the South lost...and using the Art of War to explain why.....I wonder why they are upset the South lost?
@VenlonianPictures hmmmm? thats weird wasnt the South the wanting to keep slaves so they can mooch money off them while their owners did nothing at all except smoke tobbaco and eat trees? and how is north is power hungry greedy bitches? sure every side has its shares of Power Hungry Greedy Bitches? but Norths objective was to keep the country unified and later to free slaves? thus your comment is very very stupid
@Kr4zyAc3 Actually both sides were keeping slaves at that period of time. Only that the North used the freeing of slaves as political tool as the civil war was dragging far too long. People were expecting the civil war to be a short one.
Another example of how history is written by the victors.
IMHO this is oversimplified to argue a point. Lee initially had no cav, Stuart was off raiding and getting publicity. Bobby Lee had no Jackson but expected men like Ewell who had served under Jackson to pull off the miracles he (stonewall) had. If Lee had an overarching fault it was ego, that's what really caused his defeat. Bobby Lee got emotionally into the battle and Master Sun would have scolded him for it.
that last man can't read for shit
Outofpocket12 1 month ago
shit，vietnam tunnel digging is learn from chinese who cope with jappan from1938-1945.
GeorgeFu555 1 month ago
True intelligence is born from the knowledge and wisdom you may gain from history and not the sham that is mathematics. Remember that, folks.
BadassBigBoss 1 month ago
But hair and eyeballs everywhere.
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Hey i got an idea..shut the fuck up
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The best way to fight a war, is to not have to fight at all.
LystAP 4 months ago 10
@LystAP But if you take a small army, defeat a nations powerful disciplined army you demoralize the nation. Just look at what Attila did to Rome's armies.
SupaTROopa2 4 months ago
@SupaTROopa2 True, but also irrelevant. Rome was already in decline, and Attila nearly got himself killed at Chalons. After his death, the Hunnic Empire collapsed on itself.
LystAP 4 months ago
@LystAP Regardless of Rome's decline, Attila's near death experience or the collapse of his empire prior to his death. The battles he fought against the Eastern Romans scared them shitless.
SupaTROopa2 4 months ago
@SupaTROopa2 It did scare them, but nothing ever came out of it. Attila's empire was held together mostly by fear of the Huns; after he died, no one was afraid of them anymore, and rebellions popped up everywhere.
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@LystAP Yes, what you say is true, the point how ever I'm trying to convey is in the few early battles Attila fought against the Eastern Romans were enough to scare them enough into not wanting to engage him anymore, which they showed by trying to negotiate a ceasefire. Thus concluding, "The best way to fight a war, is to not have to fight at all." Can not always be the most common sense course of action.
It has been a pleasure chatting amongst ourselves kind sir.
SupaTROopa2 4 months ago
@LystAP One of the main reason why the Eastern Roman or Byzantine Empire was able to last for 1000 years was their use of diplomacy. Whenever there are external threats to the empire, they did not immediately sent troops like the old Roman Empire would do. Instead they sent ambassadors to them and had spies to gather as much as intellligence as possible. The empire understood that war was expensive in terms of manpower and resources. War is only fought as a final resort.
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
GG WP Sun Tzu..
theodorejed19 5 months ago
Sunzi! Damnit! why do they keep saying Sunsu? So what if it's spelt Sun-Tzu? It's Chinese, It's pronounced Sunzi!
39unknown93 6 months ago
lol. as i watch this, i remember how SunTzu's book was not meant to be learned and mastered by reading it. in the ancient world, books were meant to be a review guide after mastery, from a living master. and also, that it's impossible to translate Sun Tzu accurately. because his ideas were so interconnected and different than how we or the modern Chinese use those words. its not really a simple book, and just merely reading it, you only learn very little of his concepts.
MrBALLDERDASH 6 months ago
Embrace his wisdom, or you will fight in darkness
Awesomeduud 6 months ago
"IF FIGHTING IS TO ENSURE VICTORY THEN U MUST FIGHT" SUN TZU SAID THAT
doingitforsteamlol 6 months ago
@doingitforsteamlol As long as my neck is on da line, go right ahead...
Houseofthe7gayboys 5 months ago
You have to understand that when Sun Tzu wrote his book in 500BC, China (actually Chinese tribes and kingdoms because China did not exist as a unified state) was the superpower of the East. At that time, Europe was ruled by the Greeks and Romans. Other non-GrecoRoman european kingdoms and tribes were simply uncultured barbarian savages without civilisation (literally incapable of any writing let alone producing a book). In that regard, Sun Tzu's book was the best of the best in the east or west.
UnitedKorean 6 months ago 10
@UnitedKorean Did you forget to mention the Torah and the Tenach?
johnknoefler 6 months ago
@UnitedKorean
Europe wasn't uncultured and barbaric, incapable of writing? The Iliad was written 850 BC, your blabbering sounds like propaganda.
Bratcipheo 1 month ago
@Bratcipheo *Ahem* And I quote- "At that time, Europe was ruled by the Greeks and Romans. Other non-GrecoRoman...literally incapable of any writing let alone producing a book." NON CO ROMAN. Who do you think the Iliad was written by?
MagicMatchsticks007 1 month ago
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You expect me to know the iliad, but not know who wrote it?
The comment we talk about is flawed, as the first part is true, but the sentence"In that regard, Sun thu's book was the best of the best in the east or west"
He's disregarding a whole culture to make his point. Even the Egypts, so it's a very situational comment and therefore rubbish.
Bratcipheo 4 weeks ago
@Bratcipheo thats just one example of what u can expect from internet trolls, "unitedkorean" that name says it all. also “china did not exist as a whole” is totally irrelevant and false, the collapse of zhou dynasty(during which china was unified) lead to the spring and autumn period
VRuNNerV 6 days ago
@UnitedKorean I'm sorry but your guidelines for "civilization" are a bit off. Australian Aboriginals, the worlds oldest continuing culture, had a deep culture yet were considered "uncultured" because people misunderstood their culture. Culture does not rely on 1 single point to be relevant. Writing a book is not the only way a people could be considered "cultured".
GottaBeSaid 2 weeks ago
why am i watching this? well if everyone is informed, u should know china is on the rise to be the next world superpower. i hope china is smarter than how we acted during korea. all it takes is for some monarch asshole who thinks hes smart to overshadow a true genius like sun-tzu. if ever a war of the superpowers, we need the reincarnation of sun-tzu to lead china, and we shall surely win. thank you for this video.
ervin920 6 months ago
My guess is that Sun Tzu just got really really happy about his achievement and..overdosed on opium. A thing like that would be covered up, i'm pretty sure.
Zandonus 6 months ago
I´m sure that they´re studying Sun Tzu at WestPoint, but the American politicians don´t seem to have learned anything.
They´re behaving like medieval European warlords; forming shaky coalitions and attacking almost at random, wanting the loot here and now. That´s greed, not strategy.
They´ve learned nothing.
China is constructing satellites and aircraft carriers.
I´m eager to see if the Chinese politicians have learned their lesson better.
MarshalRedDog 7 months ago 3
@MarshalRedDog Look at Afghanistan and Iraq. After defeating the nations' governments, US soldiers and their allies are still fighting the irregulars. Knowing that it is impossible face the US soldiers in a conventional warfare, the insurgents turned to querrila warfare. US military leaders still believe that their superior firepower will bring their enemies to its knee. They had already done that in Vietnam and still lost the war.
MrLantean 2 months ago
@MrLantean The only way to fight an irregular force is to play by their rules and denying them access to the terrain. For instance, the Filipino Battalion Combat Teams(BCTs) learned that the hard way during the Huk rebellion and Moro Uprisings(both 1946-1954). Especially when fighting the North Korean guerrillas after the Battle of Inchon.
quote3000 1 month ago
@quote3000 One of the most successful campaign against irregulars and insurgency took place during the Malayan Emergency. From 1948 to 1960, British and Commonwealth forces fought against Communist insurgents who aimed to create a Communist state in British ruled Malaya. Soldiers were trained in jungle warfare and learned from aboriginal inhabitants to track down Communist insurgents. British authorities learned to win the support from local population and protect them from the insurgents.
MrLantean 1 month ago
@MrLantean Neat, I didn't know about that the British learning how to fight guerrilla combatants! I always thought that would be more of the Australian/New Zelander turf.
quote3000 1 month ago
@quote3000 What the Australians learned in Malaya were put to use in Vietnam. British and Commonwealth troops are more successful than the Americans in dealing with guerilla combatants. Australian soldiers were more successful in tracking Viet Cong guerrillas and took time and patient to achieve it. Americans other hand prefered to use their firepower and hoped to destroy their enemies in one strike. They still have such mentality when dealing with insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan.
MrLantean 1 month ago
@MrLantean Perhaps the US army should get a few pointers from the Australian, New Zeland and Filipino armies, eh?!
quote3000 1 month ago
@quote3000 Fighting guerilla combatants requires patient and perseverance. It is better to win the support from local populations where the guerillas get their supplies and additional manpower. It is also very important to isolate the guerillas from the local populations. The British in Malaya established fenced village communities with curfew to prevent supplies from reaching the Communist guerillas. Various facilities like medical were provided as sign of good will from British authorities.
MrLantean 1 month ago
@MrLantean Indeed. The Filipinos did the same when fighting the Huks. At first the Ninita Unit, a precursor to the BCTs were resorting to guerrilla-style tactics yet resorted to taking out local supporters in the first years(1946-9) of the rebellion until Ramon Magsaysay rose to power and retooled the Unit to simply hitting the mountains, rivers, swamps, plains, grasslands, and jungles; especially with anti-communist propaganda.
quote3000 1 month ago
@quote3000 The purpose of guerilla warfare is to wear their enemies by exhausting their manpower and supplies. Guerillas always avoid battle that they cannot win and always chose battles that give them the edge. The best way to fight them is to engage them on their own turf. British and Commonwealth troops understood this but not the Americans. Even today, Americans are still having problems with insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan.
MrLantean 1 month ago
@MrLantean Going back to either Sun Tzu, Onasander, Aeneas, or Xenophon, it all comes down to who ever wins over the civilian population in order to achieve total victory in guerrilla and anti-guerrilla combat. BTW have you read the latter three? If not I recommend them all!
quote3000 1 month ago
@quote3000 True, gaining support from the civilian populations is vital. This how the British managed to defeat Communist insurgents in Malaya. In Vietnam, the Americans were not doing well in winning support from civilian population. Unable to distinguish from friend or foe had led to the disastrious My Lai massacre. After the incident, many neutral and anti-Communist civilians turned to support the Communist insurgents.
MrLantean 1 month ago
@MrLantean Not to mention that 75% of the local civilian population in Vietnam was pretty much against the US troops from the start; at the same time, the American people were against the war too, ultimately leading to the moral of the American army's defeat and high casualty rate.
quote3000 1 month ago
is the reason why you're fighting worth the total cost of going to Iraq, or is there another way?
Pikazilla 7 months ago
fair enough everyones goin on about all these strategies in war but likee sun Tzu said the best thing to do is avoid war as their are big consequences.
franr003 7 months ago
Thanks for writing "FINAL" for this video - so that those of us downloading know that it is the final part!
penguinskywalker 7 months ago
If anyone truly know about the 300 Spartans, as one may say, I wonder how good Sun Tzu would fair against them. If my memory serves me correctly, they too, made no mistakes as they were trapped and survived longer than any others. Strength and Knowledge or Knowledge is power. I wonder which is representing which? :D
furyberserk 7 months ago
@furyberserk Being trained in melee combat, deception and ''squad based combat'' from like.. birth might have had an impact on that fight
Zandonus 6 months ago
This didn't tell me how to kill... Amazing!
furyberserk 7 months ago
I love the fact how dramatic they make the battle when actaullly it's nothing like that..what really happen they got arrowed to death and then charged at the end...
hotpopcorncake 8 months ago
In many ways Sun Tzu is the Chinese Machiavelli. The end justifies the means. That is why I can't see true Christians can ever be in the ranks of politics, and military ranks. "praise the Lord and pass the ammunition" what blaspheme. But this is what
Sun Tzu taught to establish a moral cause for wars. The reality is war is immoral and his other motives. example, The war between the states was not for freeing slaves. Even current wars. It is so sad lives scraficed by decisions of a few elites.
Standingwithfeast 8 months ago
You can't go to war based on imagination and exercise of thoughts to simulate situations without full comprehension of proven wisdom & knowledge of laws governing successful warfare. Many of Sun Tzu's principles wouldn't have been used if one lacks the insight, self control, and wisdom to execute them. Therefore I disagree with riazera 's comment. late year, General Lee wasn't in the right frame of mind and have not known Sun Tzu, otherwise, a better President than Lying Ape. Hine sight is 100%
Standingwithfeast 8 months ago
Sun Tzu and the art of war is kind of like Einstein and relativity. Einstein didn't create anything new, but rather just recognized an increasingly evident but unrecognized universal truth and went from there. Sun Tzu was both brilliant and lucky enough to be the first to recognize the universal truths of war and to write it down. It's not his truth but rather a universal wisdom that people could eventually realize on their own. Sun Tzu just points you in the right direction.
deinekes9 8 months ago 3
@deinekes9 exactly!
lilsm555 8 months ago
great documentory, but the graphics/cut scenes and acting is truely terrible, several scenes look like they were directed by a ten year old ;)
123456789impossible 9 months ago
1:53 This guy loves the gore.
campbpar 9 months ago
Notice in 3:21-3:30 Sun Tzu's soldiers follow him but in 3:31-3:39 Nang Wah's (probably misspelled) soldiers stand around and don't follow him. That probably means he's a bad general since his troops hate him.
TheChip3 10 months ago
@TheServantCharles Why did you even bother to reply such an empity comment?
rlazera 10 months ago
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2ndSamuel710 10 months ago
@TheServantCharles I`m a MAN(=Barbarian), YOU ARE NOT A MAN that is all :)
HotZetiGer 11 months ago
@HotZetiGer i think what he says is true somewhat, its true the Mongols were brilliant generals but they were too cruel and ...i dont know to say this one but because of their lack of understanding of the culture of people they conquered they were either assimilated into the culture or were dethroned pretty quickly. the Mongolian empire like Alexanders empire collapsed pretty fast, sure they left a legacy that changed the world but did they succeed in what they wanted to achieve? definitely not.
eidius1989 11 months ago
@eidius1989 Yep foreigners are quit fanatic about their religion and superiority of their way of life known as culture. Yet there are ppl who pollute Mother Earth, grow like rats and corrupt minds of many with their true religion. What can 13th century nomads less than half million can do about it. Make them all nomads? Pagan?
HotZetiGer 11 months ago
@HotZetiGer dude that doesnt make any sense...what the fuck are you talking about? hows that even related to what i said?
eidius1989 11 months ago
@eidius1989 Am I talking to an idiot? You said Mongols have small brain to understand other`s culture & assimilated into other cultures. =it means Mongols did not keep their culture. You join the culture after you understand and accept it. You also said Mongols were too cruel =means taking no prisoners and no slaves. Taking slaves will slow military compaign.
HotZetiGer 11 months ago
@HotZetiGer first i never said they had small brains but lacked a strong culture, why else would they become Muslims? did the people they conquered somehow become Mongols? no, they did not. Greeks conquered Persia and Hellenized it, what did the Mongols do? nothing, also, you do not need to wipe out 2/3s of an entire population, thats genocide not conquest. people don't take entire nations as slaves what the fuck are you talking about? you are both ignorant and immature therefore a waste of time
eidius1989 11 months ago 3
@eidius1989 You don`t have a sense of time. We are talking about dark ages. I wonder why Europe having problem with making Muslims into Europians? gl
HotZetiGer 11 months ago
@eidius1989 You said Mongol empire collapsed too quickly =means Mongols were outnumbered, too few Mongols. You said Mongols left a legacy but did not succeed in what they wanted -Oh yeah everyone knows name Mongol. So we did not take enough revenge for our 500 mechants?
HotZetiGer 11 months ago
@TheServantCharles In ancient times China was one big forest full of monkeys. 80% forest. Thanks to your art of war now China 8-10% forest.
HotZetiGer 11 months ago
@TheServantCharles Maybe you evolved from something else maybe turtle. Tibetians Buddhism claims we are evolved from monkeys. I thought real Chinese use word pig for Mongols. What kind of Chinaman are you? Anywayz why Chinese act like slaves doing all the dirty job for foreigners and pollute homeland?
HotZetiGer 11 months ago
@TheServantCharles lol You have no shame! any Mianzi? Chinese generals are joke compare to Nomadic rulers like Attila, Genghis khaan, Hubilai khaan, Manchu Nurhachi...etc What a joke art of war for losers.
HotZetiGer 11 months ago
@TheServantCharles oh yes I was wrong to attack your fortress. I`m so afraid of you, Now I`m running away! Don`t you wanna come out from your wall and chase me? come on come out!
HotZetiGer 11 months ago
@TheServantCharles Yep you need to give more land to China towns. Sun Tzu's strategic genius, it merely demonstrates your inability to understand the proper context of what they....
HotZetiGer 11 months ago
This was likely written by Sun Pin 350bc, who made up a "Sun Tzu" in a from his perspective ancient history in order to have its book taken more seriously. Sun Pin was also a brilliant general. In the time of the state of Wu, there were no armies trained well enough to perform actions like in this documentary. However, i've learned things and enjoyed watching and thats what its all about isnt it?
AlfrinkStef 11 months ago
rlazera says "With or without Sun Tzu, many of the principles described in here would have been used when called."
Thats like saying with or without Newton, Laws of motion would have been laid down by someone else in time anyway.
The fact is Newton DID lay those laws.
Similarly Sun Tzu was a pioneer hence his legacy will remain unrivaled forever just for that simple fact.
ivarunmehta 1 year ago 21
@ivarunmehta yeah because people never waged wars before Sun Tzu,or were just slapping themselves over the face,he invented the proper way. *sarcasm*
unurautare2 5 months ago
@unurautare2
No one before him made it sound like a formula.
Slapping someone in the face is one thing, facing armies of hundreds of thousand men, before there is even a conflict is another.
What Sun Tzu and later Sun Bin wrote are modern 19th & 20th century military tactics,
Sun Tzu and Art of War is historic because he didn't have access to modern military literature and wrote his work more than a millenia ago. Thats why his work is revered.
No sarcasm needed for that.
ivarunmehta 5 months ago
@ivarunmehta His book was translated into European languages in the 18th century,when the world was already under European control. Modern warfare is based on the germans:Clausewitz and the Blitzkrieg. Sun Tzu isn't even considered real and even if he was real he couldn't have influenced anything modern outside Asia because during his time there were no flying machines.
unurautare2 5 months ago
@unurautare2
I didn't mean to imply that Art of War influenced modern military tactical and strategic decision making.
My point is Art of War is among the very 1st detailed verifiable piece of work on warfare(if not the very 1st in history in its depth, detail, and scope)
and its age makes its valuable hence it is given such prominence.
Wars before it would have had some strategies but we don't have texts for them on such a scale as we have with Art of War & what it details.
ivarunmehta 5 months ago
@unurautare2 it's not about modern warfare tactics it's all the main principles of war itself doesn't matter if it's ancient or modern warfare it's just strictly on war, no matter what era the of principles war never change only the technology we use to fight them n_n
grungetitis69 5 months ago
@grungetitis69 bullshit.
unurautare2 5 months ago
sorry for mispelling ur name cookeladoo
Marine9210 1 year ago
@cookleado
I dont think it really needs to be said. Im pretty sure tht crossed everyones mind
Marine9210 1 year ago
eat lead rebs....
whatthehell3001 1 year ago
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whatthehell3001 1 year ago
I am surprised not to see more comments on the clear disregard of the Sun Tsu principles by the americans in the latest, so called wars against Terrorism over the last 7 odd years. I will not be surprised if we see some documentary a few years from now talking about the pathetic fail of the US military in Iraq and Afganistan for the exact reasons mentioned in this series.
Great post btw TitusL... Subscribed
cookeladoo 1 year ago 4
pickets charge was one of the dumbest military tactics thingy in the civil war......
no stragedy in this shit.......
TeKnO2BaEr 1 year ago
Be interesting turn out if the South had won the civil war.....
ccrich100 1 year ago
Booya. Nang Wa got owned,
Kanjilearner 1 year ago
war is neccessary by only the means of stablilization in which a particular culture or people are not eradicated. As far as the government is concerned its is for politcal gains. As most of the anti-war critics see war as kill kill kill. In world war 2 that is what war was about for germans and russians. well mainly all. That war was about killing. However, most have a reason and is well thought out. what is peace without war, and what is life without death. We can only learn from the worst
antsanders08slot 1 year ago
7:20 I think this guy wants to see a dead body really bad or something.
campbpar 1 year ago
1:54 LISTEN To this guy- he loves it!
campbpar 1 year ago
thanks for the upload found it very interesting
jaxkizzy 1 year ago
How is this great, all you fucking retards who like war will have war, when the bomb hits your fucking house and rips your kid into four I want to see you smiling and thinking " I love war". Bunch of FUCKING RETARDS.
Redcaster916 1 year ago 5
@Redcaster916 ,
One of the funniest comments of all time LOL!
zedwid3000 1 year ago
@Redcaster916 I like war...that is Total War, you knwo the video game series? That shit's awesome but what's funny is that Sun Tzu's principles apply there too, I won a fight with 121 men vs 1100 men and I still won
AngelSilasTV 1 year ago 13
@AngelSilasTV
Happened to me to, Had only three russian infantry divisions and several militia guarding my fort which eventually came under attack by Sweedish rebels. The last part of the fight eventually ended up right in the front door of the fort with what remained of my forces completely surrounded, somehow all of the enemy regiments lost their morale and fled.
Virgil077 1 year ago
@Redcaster916 u don't get it don't u? How do u wish to end something if u don't understand it? Besides the underline of Art of War is to win without fighting if possible. "to fight a thousand battles & gain a thousand victories is not supreme victory, to subdue an enemy without fighting is the acme of the supreme commander" -sun tzu
Wolfsbane909 8 months ago
This is terrible. Fuck war!
ashthegreat 1 year ago
IDk but i guess the King thought that the purpose of Sun Tzu was over and he secretly executed him for being to powerful for his comfort like Surenas after the Roman defeat at his hands by the Parthians at the battle of Carrhae. Great people dont just disappear into the mist.
Ty TitusLabenius for the post it was awesome.
sushanalone 1 year ago
and why do we talk so much about the great Hannibal and not somuch about Sun Tzu. Alexander would be a muppet in his face; while he struggled in today's Pakistan with a much larger army waiting to defend itself in the famed but then nacent "Maurya Empire"
sushanalone 1 year ago
I'm working on a board game titled "Art of War" that bases victory upon the principles of Sun Tzu's teachings; battles are won through morale, not destruction; deception through spies and indirect attacks; winning the will of the people, etc, an entire campaign between 2 players trying to achieve 2 very different specific goals.
WritingFighter 1 year ago
@WritingFighter Cool
MrStrawhatlegend 1 year ago
screw simon says let's play sun tzu says
y2taner 1 year ago
@y2taner Damn!! Great!! Well said!! I LOVE IT!!
usteeler81 1 year ago
Great leader of war!
JO1E1 1 year ago
if you think about Afghanistan, it is all about high ground battles, commonly termed as mountain warfare.
MNGazar 1 year ago
The high ground is advantageous, this is proven in every war, unless the holder of the high ground is extremely less powerful than the other
MNGazar 1 year ago 3
@MNGazar You can also defeat the holder of the elevated position by besieging them.
jimothy183 1 year ago
@jimothy183 But besiege requires some time, and the holder of the elevated position might get reinforcement, that's even more relevant today since the communcation technology is well developed and the reinforcement may come in within hours
MNGazar 1 year ago
For all the emphasis you Americans put on sun tzu, you seem to avoid his advices most of the time. 9 Years in AFG and counting. Then there was Vietnam. And there is also Iraq.
Never go into battle without knowing what's ahead and without knowing your enemy. Well, you guys went in and removed Saddam just for it to be replaced by the Iranian coalition. Bravo!
nimrooo 1 year ago
@nimrooo "no country has ever benefited from prolonged war" -sun tzu
Wolfsbane909 8 months ago
@Wolfsbane909 True but indivuial people have benefited from prolonged war.. ie arms dealers and other corporations that supply the army
badpanda84 8 months ago
@badpanda84 yes that might be true, but at the cost of the nation. Also I think the last chapter on spies is important, but however some nations rather spend a million dollars on a temporary artificial lake as that is more important on their agenda. Chapter 9 of art of war relating to the use of spies. Naturally if they pay your run of the mill, civil servant more than they pay a spy; why would that spy want 2 work for that nation??-stupid right?
Wolfsbane909 8 months ago
@Wolfsbane909 Also regarding spys now with new techonlogy such as radars,, survallience drones etc.. it would be alot easier to get information. its all done my robots and machines now adays as oppose to acutal spies
badpanda84 8 months ago
@badpanda84 LOL sure why not, just keep telling urself that. Oh u have no idea how the world has changed but somethings remain the same, its still a fucked-up dog eat dog world out there, yes people will take full advantage of one's charitable nature, like as always this never changes..
Wolfsbane909 8 months ago
the tactic of sun tzu near ying is repeated by hanibal against rome
raininglegos 1 year ago
Absolutely well thought and genius.
CandyVolcano 1 year ago
Thanks for the upload TitusLabienus. I just finished all 9 parts. I must buy this book.
moninnYem 1 year ago 3
Both highest rated comments are, to me, stupidity.
Nobody has to have gone to war, nor has to have read the *said* greatest book on war of all time to know what war is about. People have the power of imagination to simulate situations and exercise their thoughts over things they never lived, and even over things that never happened.
With or without Sun Tzu, many of the principles described in here would have been used when called.
rlazera 1 year ago 22
@rlazera - fair coment but thats just it sun tzu's brilliance is that he put down on paper the principles of miltary warfare. Most of it may seem obvious but unfortunately itis not so obvious until someone poins them out , say like gravity and an apple falling to the ground. On top of that the writings shows a very clear and in depth knowledge of warfare and guiding principles, this was written in 500BC over 2500 yrs ago, not in the warm libraries of Harvard or Yale
takewhole 1 year ago 50
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xxSilverPhinxx 1 year ago
Yes, I think that the fact that the Chinese were literate and a bunch of warring nations during the time (war being a constant reality) when other groups and nations were mostly illiterate and did think it important to write down a "how to do war" manual better explains why such a book was first put together in ancient China.
Successful ancient generals have deployed the tactics Sun Tzu outlines without ever having read the book or heard of it.
xxSilverPhinxx 1 year ago
@rlazera Ignorant, the will to learn and to know what you learn is helping you is the only principle and truth to win a war. Lee was obviously a person who did not learn after defeats.
Sun6Tzu 1 year ago
@rlazera one principle on one war or all principles on one war???
cspoker 1 year ago
@rlazera This movie makes no sense! At first Chinese dude taught : Put men into life and death situation and they will fight like supermen. American general did so at 0:41 , and everyone tried their best but died! it is not the age of sword and arrow! This is matter of luck. Anywayz this Chinese snake strategy never worked on nomads.
HotZetiGer 11 months ago
@rlazera
Why reinvent the wheel?
bluesman89666 11 months ago
@bluesman89666 If you don't have a wheel and you have the need, BAM! The wheel is a good example because whoever first invented the wheel sure was not the only. Or do you think if that primitive dude had never been born we would never have invented any wheels at all? Sure the wheel as invented for one specific application and then copied into another ones, but then again sure there were another tribes where there were no wheels and once one was needed one was invented. This simple.
rlazera 10 months ago
@rlazera
these thinks are learned by trial and error in the case of war peoples lives. sun tzu's techniques saved lives and time thats why he was so great. yes eventually someone else would have thought of it but sun tzu DID first .
bluesman89666 10 months ago
@rlazera You have really no idea what you are talking about.
murmurrrr 11 months ago
@murmurrrr no, we're all pretty sure he does. who the fuck are you?
thebludoc 10 months ago
@thebludoc I'm Sun Tzu
murmurrrr 10 months ago
@murmurrrr Please, enlighten me then.
rlazera 10 months ago
@rlazera His book was more about philosophy rather than war. Its how to conquer oneself wrapped in war analogy.
pheonixshaman 7 months ago
@rlazera Hopefully, nobody will ever employ you to a job that requires leadership.
RyuuzakiBr 7 months ago
@CHRISTIANSOLDIER101
Hahaha, the irony of your comment and your username is fantastic, nice one mate.
thaidozy 1 year ago
Thank you soo much for this TitusLabienus!
You have rekindled an old flame of mine.
gargamel6699 1 year ago
Blood, hair, and eyeballs everywhere? Sorry that just sounds wierd, anyway am I wrong in thinking that many of his tactics apply to the “underdog” small army fighting a larger army, or would they still be applicable for a larger army fighting a smaller army, it seems things like deception and indirect attacks would hold less importance, but maybe that’s my chess mind talking not GO style?
jjjhernandez 1 year ago
@jjjhernandez it would definately work imo, really in the perspective of a general you want to win , with as least casulties as possible.
eza08 1 year ago
Blood, hair, and eyeballs everywhere? Sorry that just sounds wierd, anyway am I wrong in thinking that many of his tactics apply to the “underdog” small army fighting a larger army, or would they still be applicable for a larger army fighting a smaller army, it seems things like deception and indirect attacks would hold less importance, but maybe that’s my chess mind talking not GO style?
jjjhernandez 1 year ago
wat does this have to do with the illuminati ?? \_=/_/ ??
WESTS1DE1NGLEWXXD 1 year ago
At around 8:26-27, you can hear a slight sound in the background that sounds like a fart :)). Anyways, Sun Tzu's teachings can be learned but none shall ever practice its methods to perfection. The desire to corrupt his teachings with our pride, and lust for power is always there....
redknightricky 1 year ago
amazing! a true strategic mastermind! chinese should be proud of such an ancestor!
steveharrismetalgod 1 year ago 5
no he would wait for until the army has come across the hard ground and when tied and week he would the attack as he sees fit
proudmanm1224 1 year ago
It may have been said already....but, I believe that it would be less American casualties and more flawless victories if the US made it imparative to practice Sun Tzu's methods in modern warfare, you would think because of our advanced technology, they would plan and strategize meticulously, but you know big bad-ass America. But that's just MY opinion.
boomtomb 1 year ago
Very informative, and insightful.
rahxephon52 1 year ago
I respect sun tsus tactics but for Gods sake, i hate it when they make it out as if you will win every single battle if you follow his book. And that if you lost, you most definitely did not follow it.
In a war, there will always be a winner and loser. Just cos one lost, doesnt mean they used crap tactics. it just means the other general was better. Many times the situation determines victory and its beyond ones control.
womblewandering 1 year ago
@womblewandering
Sometimes, regardless of the tactics one uses, one will just lose simply cos the siutation was out of his favour or there were unforeseen problems. just cos one tactic worked in one battle, doesnt mean it will work later for another.
I have the book and love it but dont like the fact they are making it out as if sun tsus book is some miracle.
womblewandering 1 year ago
@womblewandering A battle doesn't need to be win. Whoever can survive the battle (or war) without defeat, is also good enough.
Know the enemy and yourself, a hundred battles you won't in peril. Know this, in peril.
ltmikepowell 1 year ago
How comes the Chinese not good at defending the Japanese forces in WW2 even they know about Sun Tzu Strategies?
FeelFree3 1 year ago
@FeelFree3 Just because you KNOW about Sun Tzu's principles doesn't mean that you actually are FOLLOWING them.
RapidCityJM 1 year ago 20
@FeelFree3
1. The Japanese knew them too
2. There is a difference between knowing and applying something
MDK775 1 year ago 4
well in ww2 mao zedhong would not trade with any other country because he was a dumbass
Landofwoads 1 year ago
cuz they cant see the army attacking them
KakashiTheWorrier 1 year ago
@FeelFree3 Cause the Chinese were not united and were fighting each other in a civil war - the nationalists vs. the communists. They were also technologically more backward in military weapons. The Japanese were united in comparison, more well-equipped and were devoted to the emperor.
KingRichard86 1 year ago
@KingRichard86 true but the japanese had their good share of Civil Wars lol
Kr4zyAc3 1 year ago
@Kr4zyAc3 Yeah, but that was before that. By that time they attacked china, they were unified, while china was still in a constant state of unrest, toppling over the qing gov.t and calling for revolution, then civil war.
KingRichard86 1 year ago
@FeelFree3 poor equipment, unstable government, inadequate preparation.
flaviulus 1 year ago
@FeelFree3 Study the Chinese history first, then speculate what's going on.
ltmikepowell 1 year ago
@FeelFree3 Actually they did defend against the japanese good in the beginning was rough but in like 1942 then on they did a pretty good job
Kr4zyAc3 1 year ago
so sun tzu is saying only use your skills and war tactics to defend your country not to conquer other countries
lifes40123 1 year ago
how come the wu state never conquered the other states then?
lifes40123 1 year ago
@lifes40123 since Sun Tzu then left them
Kr4zyAc3 1 year ago
The creators of this document make me believe that they were upset that the South lost...and using the Art of War to explain why.....I wonder why they are upset the South lost?
slvrangel4 1 year ago
i, as a Dutchman, am upset that the South lost.
VenlonianPictures 1 year ago
@VenlonianPictures why?
Kr4zyAc3 1 year ago
@Kr4zyAc3
Because the confederation stood for something they believed in. The Union were only power hungry greedy bitches.
VenlonianPictures 1 year ago
@VenlonianPictures hmmmm? thats weird wasnt the South the wanting to keep slaves so they can mooch money off them while their owners did nothing at all except smoke tobbaco and eat trees? and how is north is power hungry greedy bitches? sure every side has its shares of Power Hungry Greedy Bitches? but Norths objective was to keep the country unified and later to free slaves? thus your comment is very very stupid
Kr4zyAc3 1 year ago
@Kr4zyAc3 Actually both sides were keeping slaves at that period of time. Only that the North used the freeing of slaves as political tool as the civil war was dragging far too long. People were expecting the civil war to be a short one.
Another example of how history is written by the victors.
kudamabuk 1 year ago
@kudamabuk yeah true but the south kept MUCH MUCH more slaves
Kr4zyAc3 1 year ago
IMHO this is oversimplified to argue a point. Lee initially had no cav, Stuart was off raiding and getting publicity. Bobby Lee had no Jackson but expected men like Ewell who had served under Jackson to pull off the miracles he (stonewall) had. If Lee had an overarching fault it was ego, that's what really caused his defeat. Bobby Lee got emotionally into the battle and Master Sun would have scolded him for it.
xKCBEx 1 year ago
@xKCBEx Bobby Lee? From madtv? you Robert Lee mate?
Kr4zyAc3 1 year ago
was this how people fought with swords back then cause its pretty cool... jumping around blocking swords
lifes40123 1 year ago
so are terrorist in afghanistan using sun tzu's art of war on the americans?? cause america is getting pretty pissed at the war right now,
lifes40123 1 year ago
he didnt listen to sun tzu cause he was a racist. racist people will fail...
lifes40123 1 year ago