I just came home from the war(Nam), music was still great and soon after this group ..EWF and their album came out; WOW was this group " the joint"....... Not only could they sing, but could play instruments and had that special funk as well...... They were like the opening of the 70s and it's great music to come ( Kool & the Gang, Isaac Hayes, Barry White,Tower of Power etc.) just to many to name. Music could never be any better!!! So What In The HELL Happen..........!!!!!
This is their first album with the original members and the writing of Don Whitehead, Wade Flemmons and the bands heart, soul and founder, Maurice White. Truly wonderful.
@Soulman785 , indeed my friend. I fist heard this album at my brothers crib back when I was eleven years old and I've been hooked on EWF ever since then. But, back then EWF was magnificent!
@nubonyx, ah yes my friend and when you think about who their contemporaries where at that time for them to have had the incredible influence they did is truly outstanding!
fall '71 ... UPenn ... Hill Hall freshman dorm... me and my new roommate gettin' acquainted ... Gordon comes along ... .. TAKES OFF THE ALBUM WE'RE PLAYIN' AND PUTS THIS ON !!! ... he dances without a care rite there !!!
when i was a kid my mom would play that song and the other ones on that album too...that whole album was the bomb....they had a woman in the band back then also
lately I've been listening to EWF's earlier stuff and WOW!!! this is jazzy AND funktastic!!! ...born in the 90's and I REFUSE to listen to the Top 40 or whatever's "new" on the radio these days....it's CRAP!
This was a very underrated tune....I used to play it at parties and people would asked if that was EWF's new tune....After a while I said F-it and told them yes it was...lol
hee hee... this album is amazing... their first two for WB are amazing... as well as the pharoahs stuff... i think they remained consistent, but i love their early stuff, straight funk/jazz stuff a lot.
and you can't deny the greatness of 'bad tune'! this album has breaks all over it- wow...
Most people like the later, Pop R&B stuff that EWF did, but I'm more into their earlier Warner Brothers period stuff. More funky, and not as commercial sounding. I think Maurice White was still drumming on this record, continuing where he left off as Ramsey Lewis' drummer during the late 60s
I agree but the sales relegated them, at best, to regional air play and cult status. Remember, they used to be on small venues like college campuses and the coffee house circuit.I think they went pop but sustained their musical integrity and quality for quite some time.
I agree with you Lamont. They did sustain their musical integity, but their goal was too become the biggest band in the world, and they did it. This sound here wasn't going to take them where "All 'N ALL" took them that's why Muarice revamped the group. If you dont evolve then you dont make it in music.
james brown, p funk, ohio players, bar kays, meters, sly stone, hendrix, undisputed truth, gil scott heron, kool and the gang, isaaac hayes all should be thankful for hip hop.
Are you crazy ? Hip hop and Shit ( Rap ) should be thankful to real artists like Funk artists . Without the music they take they can't interest anybody !!
you got that in reverse, hiphop is dead without the kats your mentioned. Hiphop is modern theives. They actually were more creative then any hiphop act out AND they played their own music AND were more original. You can't say that for hiphop
I'm staring at the tattered, overloved album cover right now. I no longer have a turntable. I remember hearing this for the first time in college & running around to records stores trying to sing the song b/c I didn't know the group or title. One brother recognized it immediately--he became my boyfriend!
Great Year for music!! Marvin Gaye "What's Going On?" being the standard for the year in r&b. I believe EWF "Need of Love" came out in 1971. This lp was 1970, their very first.
As strongly as I critized hiphop I have to give them credit for their keeping certain groups and sounds in the conscious mind. Actually, probably earlier hiphop groups like the acts of the 80's and up to the mid 90s
I don't mind change but if it's at the expense of dedication and true creativity then it's just copy -catting , not change. The music behind rap has not changed since it's first sampling. Besides a real artist never confuses being a musician and being a gangstar.
That's the record producing mantra to market a product. "Gangsta" sells!! It's messed up because it's nothing more than modern day minstrel at the expense of the dignity of a people.
This tune was sampled in the early 1990's by a Dutch artst Tony Scott from the album "That's how I'm Living". Lamont maybe it's me but I though after hearing this album that Maurice White established his vocal pitch on the track "C'mon Children". What do you think?
What I hear with "Moment of Truth", the arranging seems centered around an singing ensemble of Maurice White, Wade Flemons, and Jessica Cleaves. Sort of a "call to spritual arms" of love and higher thinking about the plight of men. It fit with the times. Civil Rights Movement, Vietnam, and general worldly issues.
I'll take your word for it that Sherry Scott is on this lp. I was aware that the "Pop Crew" of Bailey and Dunn and the label change to Columbia went more to establish the EWF sound more than anything.
I dig it! There is so much published music that an entire subject matter can be dedicated to where music of now is being sampled from music of before. That's why I love the young people.
I understand what you're saying but artistry is subjective. I remember initially rejecting rap music because I thought it lacked creativity but all I rejected was change. I try to stay open minded with what I may not totally understand.
Ronnie Laws is play horn and flute This was EWF first album Last Days And Time was also the first album that prominently featured Maurice White playing the Kalimba on the instrumental track "Power
Actually this is the very first EWF line up before Phillip Bailey , Larry Dunn , Ronnie Laws , Roland Bautisa...etc...This album and "The Need Of Love" were both released on the Warner Brothers label...However this tune is very underated and didn't get much airplay.
this one of my fav EWF albums in their "modal" period, i like the earthiness of their music then
jody808 2 months ago
NEVER CAN YOU GO WRONG WITH EARTH,WIND AND FIRE.
MrTrackfreek 3 months ago
One of my favorite Earth, Wind & Fire albums and I still got the original vinyl.
**Sampled used in LL COOL J - "Murdergram"**
cfrazier822 4 months ago
I just came home from the war(Nam), music was still great and soon after this group ..EWF and their album came out; WOW was this group " the joint"....... Not only could they sing, but could play instruments and had that special funk as well...... They were like the opening of the 70s and it's great music to come ( Kool & the Gang, Isaac Hayes, Barry White,Tower of Power etc.) just to many to name. Music could never be any better!!! So What In The HELL Happen..........!!!!!
Jazz4Me63 7 months ago
This is their first album with the original members and the writing of Don Whitehead, Wade Flemmons and the bands heart, soul and founder, Maurice White. Truly wonderful.
Soulman785 10 months ago
@Soulman785 , indeed my friend. I fist heard this album at my brothers crib back when I was eleven years old and I've been hooked on EWF ever since then. But, back then EWF was magnificent!
nubonyx 10 months ago
@nubonyx, ah yes my friend and when you think about who their contemporaries where at that time for them to have had the incredible influence they did is truly outstanding!
Soulman785 10 months ago
fall '71 ... UPenn ... Hill Hall freshman dorm... me and my new roommate gettin' acquainted ... Gordon comes along ... .. TAKES OFF THE ALBUM WE'RE PLAYIN' AND PUTS THIS ON !!! ... he dances without a care rite there !!!
garyn1953 11 months ago
Why wasn't this a hit record...????...This is some bad shit....
freein2339 1 year ago
EWF debut lp
1illdrac 1 year ago
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@1Eu4ic and "Murdergram" LL Cool J
Ltron9 1 year ago
@1Eu4ic and "Murdegram" LL Cool J
Ltron9 1 year ago
tight funk music......this is the pre EWF stuff....timeless 2! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
VirginUbiquity 1 year ago
This is sooooo HOT. HItting ROCKIn .. ALL that.. LOOVE IT.. real music.. love the arrangement and instrumentation!!..
vittoriosheridan 1 year ago
Great great song I love this almost as much as Power and Keep Your Head to the Sky. I can hear the beginnings of KLIMBA IN THIS TRACK
mikesuede56 1 year ago
when i was a kid my mom would play that song and the other ones on that album too...that whole album was the bomb....they had a woman in the band back then also
u2delic 1 year ago
lately I've been listening to EWF's earlier stuff and WOW!!! this is jazzy AND funktastic!!! ...born in the 90's and I REFUSE to listen to the Top 40 or whatever's "new" on the radio these days....it's CRAP!
monaj3lisa 1 year ago
The WB albums were great exhibitions of what was to come... Alot of energy and I love hearing Maurice on set which he was on both releases.
eastbrookmusic 1 year ago
That's a badass groove.
beselbic 1 year ago
This was a very underrated tune....I used to play it at parties and people would asked if that was EWF's new tune....After a while I said F-it and told them yes it was...lol
freein2339 3 years ago 7
hee hee... this album is amazing... their first two for WB are amazing... as well as the pharoahs stuff... i think they remained consistent, but i love their early stuff, straight funk/jazz stuff a lot.
and you can't deny the greatness of 'bad tune'! this album has breaks all over it- wow...
lumbia33 2 years ago
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thank goodness they evolved. This sounds crappy for ewf- or anyone
pricean 3 years ago
Most people like the later, Pop R&B stuff that EWF did, but I'm more into their earlier Warner Brothers period stuff. More funky, and not as commercial sounding. I think Maurice White was still drumming on this record, continuing where he left off as Ramsey Lewis' drummer during the late 60s
phillydisco 3 years ago 5
I agree but the sales relegated them, at best, to regional air play and cult status. Remember, they used to be on small venues like college campuses and the coffee house circuit.I think they went pop but sustained their musical integrity and quality for quite some time.
LamontCJ 3 years ago 3
I agree with you Lamont. They did sustain their musical integity, but their goal was too become the biggest band in the world, and they did it. This sound here wasn't going to take them where "All 'N ALL" took them that's why Muarice revamped the group. If you dont evolve then you dont make it in music.
rockjohnson80 3 years ago
james brown, p funk, ohio players, bar kays, meters, sly stone, hendrix, undisputed truth, gil scott heron, kool and the gang, isaaac hayes all should be thankful for hip hop.
michelle2837 3 years ago
Great Point!! Now if they could just pay royalties! LOL
LamontCJ 3 years ago
Are you crazy ? Hip hop and Shit ( Rap ) should be thankful to real artists like Funk artists . Without the music they take they can't interest anybody !!
doomy1975 3 years ago 4
you got that in reverse, hiphop is dead without the kats your mentioned. Hiphop is modern theives. They actually were more creative then any hiphop act out AND they played their own music AND were more original. You can't say that for hiphop
rjam1974 3 years ago 13
I'm staring at the tattered, overloved album cover right now. I no longer have a turntable. I remember hearing this for the first time in college & running around to records stores trying to sing the song b/c I didn't know the group or title. One brother recognized it immediately--he became my boyfriend!
mimmsy123 3 years ago
The first EWF joint...Good post. Listen to Maurice White "The moment of truth is hear...bop bop bey doweoh oh yeah"
rockjohnson80 3 years ago
chuck chillout and kool chip sampled this song also
melodicjs 3 years ago
This came out in like 1971....I was about to arrive to this world
11bryansbaby4lyf 3 years ago
Great Year for music!! Marvin Gaye "What's Going On?" being the standard for the year in r&b. I believe EWF "Need of Love" came out in 1971. This lp was 1970, their very first.
LamontCJ 3 years ago
what's the orig. date on this?
stinso 3 years ago
LL Cool J used this on Murdergram on the Album Momma Said Knock You Out
11bryansbaby4lyf 3 years ago 4
Interesting, but nothing like the original. I am amazed how hip hop people relate to original recordings as samples as reference
LamontCJ 3 years ago
Kid N' Play also sampled this. Earth, Wind & Fire indirectly contributed to hip hop and rap music.
rockjohnson80 3 years ago
And Tony Scott [The Chief].....
rb7007 3 years ago
Awful but true !!
doomy1975 3 years ago
As strongly as I critized hiphop I have to give them credit for their keeping certain groups and sounds in the conscious mind. Actually, probably earlier hiphop groups like the acts of the 80's and up to the mid 90s
rjam1974 3 years ago 2
I don't mind change but if it's at the expense of dedication and true creativity then it's just copy -catting , not change. The music behind rap has not changed since it's first sampling. Besides a real artist never confuses being a musician and being a gangstar.
freein2339 4 years ago
That's the record producing mantra to market a product. "Gangsta" sells!! It's messed up because it's nothing more than modern day minstrel at the expense of the dignity of a people.
LamontCJ 4 years ago
Since you're an EWF fan I thought you might "Zanzibar" from the "Head to the Sky" , I uploading it last week...
freein2339 4 years ago
Good, I'm on it.
LamontCJ 4 years ago
Are you able to upload that tune on YouTube. That's a 13-minute song. I thought YouTube only gives 10 minutes.
eric2181965 4 years ago
Just search it , it's there on two audio tracks..
freein2339 4 years ago
This tune was sampled in the early 1990's by a Dutch artst Tony Scott from the album "That's how I'm Living". Lamont maybe it's me but I though after hearing this album that Maurice White established his vocal pitch on the track "C'mon Children". What do you think?
ristobenjie 4 years ago
What I hear with "Moment of Truth", the arranging seems centered around an singing ensemble of Maurice White, Wade Flemons, and Jessica Cleaves. Sort of a "call to spritual arms" of love and higher thinking about the plight of men. It fit with the times. Civil Rights Movement, Vietnam, and general worldly issues.
LamontCJ 4 years ago
Sherry Scott is the girl singing here. Jess joined for Last Days and Time, along with Bailey, Dunn and company.
mrstep2me 4 years ago
I'll take your word for it that Sherry Scott is on this lp. I was aware that the "Pop Crew" of Bailey and Dunn and the label change to Columbia went more to establish the EWF sound more than anything.
LamontCJ 4 years ago
LL COOL J'S MURDERGRAM
WONDERWORLD19 4 years ago
I dig it! There is so much published music that an entire subject matter can be dedicated to where music of now is being sampled from music of before. That's why I love the young people.
LamontCJ 4 years ago
I actually wish more young people would write they're own music because sampling has given us nothing but a water-down product called music..
freein2339 4 years ago
I understand what you're saying but artistry is subjective. I remember initially rejecting rap music because I thought it lacked creativity but all I rejected was change. I try to stay open minded with what I may not totally understand.
LamontCJ 4 years ago
Ronnie Laws is play horn and flute This was EWF first album Last Days And Time was also the first album that prominently featured Maurice White playing the Kalimba on the instrumental track "Power
loosestudios 4 years ago
Actually this is the very first EWF line up before Phillip Bailey , Larry Dunn , Ronnie Laws , Roland Bautisa...etc...This album and "The Need Of Love" were both released on the Warner Brothers label...However this tune is very underated and didn't get much airplay.
freein2339 4 years ago
Sho' you right. Wade Flemons was the primary songwriter for this LP. Maurice took the reigns, changed labels, and the rest is history.
LamontCJ 4 years ago