improv monologue @ Del Close Asssscat goes way wrong

[Jenamonty]

wow, not only did he do this to her, but he felt so justified/proud that he stood up in an auditorium and bragged about it. And the audience laughed and applauded. What rape culture??

[Jenamonty]

His name is Eric D. Angell.

[CoolIncarnate]

good comedian, this guy is going places, 9/10

wish those idiots stopped trying to ruin his story though

[JustinBieberFoLife]

@CoolIncarnate

i'm starting to smell obvious troll around these parts.

i mean.. how many fans of comedy can actually not think this is funny?

this is pretty much gold in my books.

[devilzangel111451]

what a sick fuck! if he made this up he's a moron and if he did it he's a rapist. end of story.

[Zeldarulah]

Awkward as fuck.

[Ididerus]

Not rape, sounds pretty consensual to me... maybe a crude description, but damn there was no definite "NO" from her.

[whatthehellpeople]

@Ididerus All we get is his version of things. Even so, there are some points I find very disturbing, which place this scenario in a gray area.

[whatthehellpeople]

1. A drunk tourist giver her number to the waiter, who passes it off to another guy. That guy gets her address via FRAUD.

2 He shows up at her door & is told to get lost. After he begs for her to get him his friend's # so he can get a ride home, he LETS HIMSELF IN. She did NOT invite him in.

3. He goes to her bedroom, where she proceeds to tell him to tell him to leave multiple times. He ignores these.

4. There is some poorly-described struggle, ending with on top, telling him to LEAVE.

[whatthehellpeople]

5. (Also, he's said that he is NOT LEAVING TILL HE GETS SOME)

6. While she is telling him to leave this time, he jams his finger up inside her.

7. She asks him to use a condom, then dead-dogs it while he does his business.

[whatthehellpeople]

She knows absolutely nothing about this man except that he doesn't give a rats ass that she said to eave, that he doesn't observe boundaries, that he lied his way into getting her location, &that he's grabbed her in a very tender place.

[whatthehellpeople]

Try to see it from the woman's POV: Nothing this man has done gives her reason to believe he will turn out to be a gentleman. If she IS resisting, she doesn't know if continuing will provoke him. She's either still buzzed from her earlier drinking or hungover, not at 100%, so if she wants out, fighting her way out of this may not work so well. Letting him get off wouldn't provoke him further, &he's said he will leave afterward... if he uses a condom it wouldn't be the end of the world...

[whatthehellpeople]

Again, this is the teller's version of events. That it's so sleazy is very disturbing; it hints that the actual events may have actually been worse.

At best, this is a story of a man fixing his sights on a strange woman and, after ignoring her every demand that he should leave (that's not a no? really?) gets her to relent. Not quite rape, but not quite consent either.

At worst, this is out-and-out rape.

-- And it isn't a NO you should be looking for: it's a very clear, *enthusiastic* YES.

[whatthehellpeople]

Actually no, the best-case interpretation sounds way too close to rape by coercion to be an objectively gray area.

I'm not saying Mr. Angell raped somebody, but the way he tellshis story makes him sound like he probably did. It's entirely possible he's just a bad storyteller. It's possible that it really was a wacky adventure wherein a horny older woman decided that sex with HIM was better than none at all.

But that the police are investigating this is also entirely understandable

[SimplexAnonymous]

@Ididerus How the fuck is telling someone to leave not a "no"?

[RagingPygmy]

*twitch*

[rocketdave]

Stupid son of a bitch deserves to have his genitals removed as painfully as possible.

[denisonM]

this douche should be jailed. creep.

[eldrewto55]

Oh man.

[hotmetaldobermans]

nail this fucker to the cross!

[DrSanjayRape]

Haha, this guy, Eric D. Angell of North Las Vegas, NV sure can tell a funny story!