SCSA #4 - M2K vs MikeHaze

[Keys1281]

Uncharged SB @ 1:36 woulda kept you alive.

[Kryp6]

Great match by the way.

MikeHAZE is an amazing Marth. :]

[Kryp6]

Sandbag! Melee! Melee! Gersh gersh! Sandbag! :D

Sound like anybody? >.>

[GodsDeployment]

this rivalry is pretty bitter

[Snakes0502]

best and fast comeback EVER!!!!

[Kasonnyong]

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buut meta knight is really cheap with the tornadoes..

so for me marth was the winner..

[Kasonnyong]

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i really think that marth should really look for combos..

cause hes just running around and charging..

and meta knight has good combos..

especially the one at 0:08..

[xRogueGeassx]

marth did really good considering how gay and cheap MK is.

[Kaffei4Lunch]

@xRogueGeassx This is by far the most common call of the scrub. The loser usually takes the imagined moral high ground by sticking to his Code of Honor, a made-up set of personal rules that tells him which moves he can and cannot do. Of course, the rules of the game itself dictate which moves a player can and cannot make, so the Code of Honor is superfluous and counterproductive toward winning.

[xRogueGeassx]

@Kaffei4Lunch is there a point in there somewhere? cuz i got bored of reading this about halfway through.

[Kaffei4Lunch]

@xRogueGeassx Clearly, you have an IQ of less than 80.

[xRogueGeassx]

@Kaffei4Lunch Clearly, you like to avoid your point. Either you disagree with me cuz you play as MK or you are just looking for someone to argue with. I dont really care either way so stop with this "code of honor" bullsh*t and STFU. =D

[Kaffei4Lunch]

@xRogueGeassx That's what I have been saying the whole time, if you even bothered to read ANYTHING that I previously stated. In competitive gaming, "honor", being "cheap" (when it really isn't) or anything of the sort is trivial.

I disagree with you because you are a scrub, not because I main MK or because I'm looking for someone to argue with.

[xRogueGeassx]

@Kaffei4Lunch i went back and read what u wrote. i wouldnt call it a "code of honor", its more like an extra rule. I play for fun with a bunch of friends if if you use the same attack more than 3 times in a row, then you are spamming. I would never say you cant use a move or player but if you are going to be an annoying spamming noob, then i am going to play for real and kill you. This is NOT trivial, its escential to make sure that everyone has fun. you're a scrub for defending spammers.

[Kaffei4Lunch]

@xRogueGeassx That's exactly why you are a scrub. A scrub would take great issue with this statement for he usually believes that he is playing to win, but he is bound up by an intricate construct of fictitious rules that prevents him from ever truly competing. It's good that you are having fun with your friends with brawl (everyone should be having fun playing a game) but this is a competitive scene, if you lose you spam, you just suck at adapting and you're a bad player.

[xRogueGeassx]

@Kaffei4Lunch i hardly think that "more than 3 of the same attack in a row is spamming. no spamming" is in any way complicated or intricate. Now, you are the scrub for thinking that one extra rule is in some way complex and for defending spammers. And although i know im not the best, you cant call me a bad player. i never said i lose to spammers, i said they are annoying (i play seriously and kill them because they get so predictable).

[Kaffei4Lunch]

@xRogueGeassx That's not the definition of a scrub. I'm defending spammers, because you think it's "cheap" and "gay" to spam, which is how a scrub thinks. Adapt to spam. I didn't call you a bad player, but if you do lose to spam, then you're probably bad at adapting and a key concept of getting better is learning to adapt as fast as possible.

Also, I find it surprisingly irrational that you are not into the competitive scene.. yet you're trying to get better.

[xRogueGeassx]

@Kaffei4Lunch i can adapt to spam so the first part of yur comment is null. I play with ALOT of people and some of them go to tournaments. im trying to get better so i can play on their level (which i cant right now). you would probably understand my opinion if you knew how we play.

[Kaffei4Lunch]

@xRogueGeassx Then you are into competitive smash. Don't complain about anything. If you feel that MK is disrupting the community, you are pro ban. If you are pro ban, you should fight for the ban of MK.

I am anti ban, so I fight for MK to stay. That was my whole point. No harm intended.

[xRogueGeassx]

@Kaffei4Lunch Ban MK from the game or just competitive play? cuz while i do think that MK is gay, i dont really care about tournament play. my point was that you can play as anyone, even MK, and be good without being a spamming noob faggot.

Btw you said that you dont use MK so why fight for him?

[Kaffei4Lunch]

@xRogueGeassx You can still be good by spamming, just smartly. For example if you are fighting someone and they just run at you liberally, you could just stand there and spam grab. I bet they would ragequit, lol.

I said that I disagreed with you not because I play MK, but because of reasons previously stated. I DO main Meta Knight. I don't believe he should be banned. I would ban Brinstar and Rainbow Cruise, however.

[xRogueGeassx]

@Kaffei4Lunch one of the kids that brings in the wii sucks at brawl. he tries to spam but everyone else can punish spammers so after the kid loses for about 30 mins, he throws all his controls across the room and takes his wii back hahahaha. its hilarious lol.

F*CK brinstar and rainbow cruise!!!!!! Final D. and battlefield and smashville FTW

[Kaffei4Lunch]

@xRogueGeassx You should tell him to stop spamming then, because it's obviously not working lol. He maaaaaaaaaaaad.

[xRogueGeassx]

@Kaffei4Lunch Its worse than you think lol. He yells out curses when he loses and pause-resets right before he loses his last stock so that it technically "doesnt count". He wont give up the controller if he loses either (the first and second place players get to keep playing). We have two other wiis so its fun to watch him rage hahaha

[Kaffei4Lunch]

@xRogueGeassx Wow.... paradigm of sore losers. I would never want to play with that guy,

[LethalXDSSBB]

@xRogueGeassx: What a prick.

[Kaffei4Lunch]

@xRogueGeassx Actually, I'm nor anti ban or pro-ban. I'm neutral.

[Kaffei4Lunch]

@xRogueGeassx One other thing, try not to get annoyed. That will hurt your game.

[Kaffei4Lunch]

@xRogueGeassx If you're not into the competitive scene, then I don't know why you are watching Mew2King vs mikeHAZE

[xRogueGeassx]

@Kaffei4Lunch i may not be into the competitive scene, but i do love brawl. I just stumbled onto these videos while looking for more ways to better myself in the game.

[Kaffei4Lunch]

@xRogueGeassx These "rules" can be staggeringly arbitrary. If you beat a scrub by throwing projectile attacks at him, keeping your distance and preventing him from getting near you—thats apparently cheap. If you throw him repeatedly, thats apparently cheap, too. If you block for fifty seconds doing no moves, thats cheap. Nearly anything you do that ends up making you win is a prime candidate for being called cheap.

[xRogueGeassx]

@Kaffei4Lunch well who is just going to sit back and take projectiles? even if you use fox's blaster, you can only use it a few times before the opponent gets too close and attacks you. sheilding and rolling/spotdodging doent really count cuz its so easy to punish and a good player can chaingrab about 3 times and kill their opponent. its not really what you do, its how you use your moves that makes you cheap. it would probly be easier to understand if you knew how we play.

[wiitubeaccount]

lol i used to main meta knight, but now i play a lot of chars cause meta can too gay sometimes

[wiitubeaccount]

@kyrind0r naw man m2k can get good at any character he puts his mind to, just look at him beasting with 3 chars or more in melee.

[rotkwarrior]

what the heck was that at 2:30....Marth seems to be sliding....=0

[wiitubeaccount]

m2k is sandbagging but not that much. he should focus more of his efforts in mastering melee and beating mango. he is already too good in this game

[xx0Rain0xx]

Yeah really he needs to stop playing Brawl

[giobot]

@wiitubeaccount you call 2 blatant SDs "not that much"?

[wiitubeaccount]

@giobot lol i meant that he wasn't just handing the game over to mikehaze despite him suiciding.

[tuestresfat]

massive sandbagging by both players o.o

[PactFulfillment]

MikeHaze wasn't sandbagging. No one on the west coast had any chance of stopping m2k when he first came over here for scsa.

[tuestresfat]

watch other matches of m2k vs. mikehaze and you'll see why i said mike was sandbagging.

[PactFulfillment]

If you're referring to the evo vids or anything later than scsa, then yes people started catching up a little. But like I said, at the time of scsa, m2k was plowing through everyone on the west coast. During this vid of scsa, mike was definitely not sandbagging.

[6mizu]

GO mikeHAZE!

MK is soooooooooooooooo broken its not even funny.

lol.

[hdrevolution123]

1:29 if he'd have release grab spiked him then he would have blown the faces of the whole crowd, more than it would have done at APEX with ally

[hdrevolution123]

erm wow. I've never seen Mike lose a stock so fast before

[blits4000]

Oh Man 1:27

M2K: Oh no, after 4 rounds with you grab release spiking me, I will NOT ALLOW IT ANY MORE!

/d air

SUCCESS! :D

[Ifeanyi32]

M2k is just to smart for anyone except Ally lol.

[33Madman33]

Unless M2K was sandbagging, him and MikeHaze were basically even when they fought at Evo2k9, and that was more recent than this

[PeachyFoam]

Fox: I don't know what to do about Marth's Edgehogging!

Peppy: Do a Barrel Roll!!!

Fox: Whaaaaaaat?!?

Peppy: The B button Fox, spam the B button!

[Logan9998]

My sandbagging sense is tingling.

[maxdeathGTFO]

lol @ the moonwalk

[ntarps1]

This match was lolful.

[ThePunisher012]

Ouch !!!

[mahoose6]

BEASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[ChurroEmiliano]

0_o

my brain hurts.