DOW-The Horus Heresy

[eltuck1]

aahh i want a dow storry with horusheresy...

[eltuck1]

its "thunderhawk"

[tkutz72]

either dark crusade or winter assult

[Bankai95]

i know this doesnt matter but at 1.45 you call the luna wolves, well, the luna wolves.

but at the end of the horus rising, they changed that to sons of horus XD

[yoyohammer]

@Bankai95 this is the battle errrrr siege or whatever u want to call in on ivanstan 3 right? when that mother fucker lucious betrays whats his name. and then little horus aximand kills torgadon, altho i feel bad for little horus he did want to, but fuck him for doing it. we shall see more of litttle horus when HH moves back to the sons' of horus imo

[CrosNestPainting]

@Bankai95 Except that the Loyalists changed their names back to Luna Wolves, as they were no longer loyal to the Warmaster.

[darkangel0103]

oh and a tip, turn 3d camera on (means you can get really close to the troops and get some good shots).

and also do it in a replay form and hold down ctrl, shift and @ at the same time and a screen will come down.

to remove the HUD type in "taskbar_hide"

and the cursor "cursor_hide"

and to reverse it you need to do the same but with "show" instead of "hide".

it'd increase the awesomeness of your vids dude :)

[ParkourLover13]

Awesome video (Y)

I was wondering were you got/what game of DoW this map is on as i can't fin dit anywere?

awesome vid x

[FifthWindLegion]

This map was Pavonis, I beleive on Dark Crusade.

[Greyknightserve666]

it is defiently pavonis

[BROWNORKMAN]

matthewmcewan the emperor can kill any demon. there hae been lesser humans who have killed/enslaved demon. read Eisenhorn and then post anothe comment

[BROWNORKMAN]

you pointed out that there could be chaos marines becauce of the noise marines that argument of their being chaos maring is not valid. thats all i wanted to point out. im not trying to offend but the video is pretty googd

[FifthWindLegion]

They are Space Marines, they work for Chaos. Thus, Chaos Space Marines.

[BROWNORKMAN]

i no u wanted to make the video badass but none of the primarchs were demons yet so its inacurATE AND AROUND 2:09 THEY were in a monestery/fortress and not attacking the enemy. other way around. annd also there are no noise marines in the game so your argument is invalid. there were no psykers in their retinue and they wore white armor not red. a good video but extreamly inacurate

[FifthWindLegion]

Angron is represneted as a Daeomn Prince only because that was the best way to rperesent a primarch. The loyalists were at the top of the 'fortress' being attacked by the trators at the bottom, with tanks. I know there were noise marines, which of my arguments were invalid?

I also have the World Eaters in white armor. The Berserkers in this game have some automatic red on them, and as I wanted to show them as frotheing at the mouth madmen, that is the way it had to work.

[matthewmcewan]

lol chaos owns u all no1 can beat a demon.......ok im exagerating but a single warrior would have an extremely hard time i think the emperor could kill a lesser demon but not a greater demon

[nignogmctasty]

Mat are you serious? If you knew anything about the lore of 40k..you would know that the emperor was wounded severely before he defeated Horus. He is being kept alive by an extreme version of life support, kind of, and is now battling all of the chaos gods on a psychic plane. If he dies, all of humanity will die. I demon is easily killed, and are huge so there always attacked first.I know you dont play the tabletop game but those who do understand

(info from warhammer 40k rulebook + chaos codex)

[FifthWindLegion]

There are daemons the size of my foot. (Nurglings). There are Daemons the size of me (Bloodletters, Daemonettes, Plaugebearers, Horrors). There are daemons bigger than me (the rest). Daemons fight wars in the material realm, and lose. They fight wars, and win. The Daemon Primarch of the World Eaters and 12 Bloodthristers were killed by Grey Knights.

My source? The fluff for the War of Armageddon and the Daemons Codex.

[nignogmctasty]

i was talking..of course..about the greater demon mat is talking about. Lesser demons, employed by chaos space marines, very powerful, but nothing compared to a greater demon. And the emperor could easily destroy any greater demon

[FifthWindLegion]

Of course, being the most powerful mortal to have walked the universe, I agree.

[twinturboteen18]

the grey nights couldnt kill the world eaters primarch but they managed to banish him for a hundred years i hear dam them ! cant be super powerd by chaos without getting hassled by the cops!

[FifthWindLegion]

The thing though is that no demon, no matter the variety, can be truly killed by mortals. They can be banished to the Warp for some time, but the only way they can ever really die is if their Patron God itself sucks them back into his conisousness.

[Thestuka1]

@twinturboteen18 its a 100years and 1 day mate that must have really pissed him off

[Xomjke]

Have u read ANYTHING ABOUT HORUS HERESY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?On istvaan 3 HSM WERE STILL LOOKED LIKE SM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FifthWindLegion]

LIKE NO REALLY!1!11 [/sarcam]

I am guessing you haven't actually read the book Fulgrim then, as The Emperor's Children had actually taken the step to become Noise Marines by the time of the Dropsite Massacre. Anyway, it was useful to use Khorne Berserkers to represent the World Eaters as a) they were starting to become that anyway, b) it allowed the viewers to see who was good and bad, and c) A Daemon Prince makes a very good Traitor Primarch.

[letherath000]

1. there were no demons yet, so there were no Khorne beserkers.

2. This was a city fight, and i didn't see buildings.

3. Tarkin and loken were hurt but not killed until the Titan stepped on the building they were in, killing both.

4. I ran out of nagging ideas.

5. Nope still nothing.

6 its actually quite good as far as you put the story line, its just the video isnt quite.... acurate.

[FifthWindLegion]

1. Thats wrong. There were always daemons, since even before the rise of Man, a daemon is mentioned in a HH book. The Daemon Prince represents Angron. While they weren't true Berserkers, they represent what Angron wanted them to become, and allowed them to beat the loyalist World Eaters in combat.

2. I thought it was the best map to represent this that I had found.

3. They wouldn't fall down until they were killed in game, otherwise, they would keep on fighting, which wouldn't work either.

[GrEyKnIgHtMaRiNe]

Angron was already a daemon and his troops famed for berserk rage in battle as were the word bearers...

[FifthWindLegion]

No, Angron was not a Daemon Prince during the Istvann II Massacre.

[GrEyKnIgHtMaRiNe]

he was a daemon in mind but perhaps not in body a bit like fulgrim before his mutation it says in the collected visions that angron is under daemonic possesion before istvaan took place and is the reason for his insane brutal berserker rage in battle and that of his legion now i doubt the whole legion where daemons so im guessing it was a mental state not bodily

[FifthWindLegion]

Now that I can agree to.

[GrEyKnIgHtMaRiNe]

One last thing you forgot to put the dies irae standing on the house loken was in lol jk almost impossible to get that into the vid even with mods

[GriffinPilgrim]

All the traitor Primarchs became Daemon Princes (except Horus and the Night Lord's one, who snuffed it), but not until much later, after centuries in the Eye of Terror.

[FifthWindLegion]

Exactly.

[GrEyKnIgHtMaRiNe]

yeah they where basically making themselves the tools of the chaos gods during the HH and by the end of the siege of terra the gods had bestowed their gifts upon quite a few primarchs angron was a full daemon by the time the blood angels famed black rage charge pushed the heretics back away from the palace

[Iamyourcaliph]

Everyone loves bad music running over a game that isn't meant for cinematics! Seriously, these videos are proof that on Youtube people will rate anything highly. Try toning down your obsession with 40k and then look at these again.

[FifthWindLegion]

'Try toning down your obsession with 40k..."

That, my friend, is impossible.

[Jorgon01]

Didn't the Emperors' Children have purple armor highlighted n gold?

[Axnor11]

who was the fifth captain of the sons of horus, forgot that part, Aximand

[Axnor11]

i have a theory, i think that aximand may be the founder of the blood raven chapter, here's why:

1.DoW Dark Crusade chaos(player) vs. space marines epilogue

2. It says on the lexicanum, i tink, that the fifth company of the blood ravens is especially mysterious, and who was the fifth captain

3. Aximand felt regret when he killed torgadon, so maybe he abandoned horus( well, Abaddon, actually) after or maybe even before the heresy

[GrEyKnIgHtMaRiNe]

IF aximand created the blood ravens 1 he would not be the 5th company capt also the heraldry and colours should they not have some referal to aximand or some heraldry to do with him more then likely they are from either the 2nd legion and their primarch or the 11th legion and their primarch

[waxerXX]

Cant be hes Little Horus, he wouldn't of had a part in making a loyalist chapter, he stayed on with horus and pretty sure got killed during the siege of terra

[GrEyKnIgHtMaRiNe]

he is mentioned after the siege of terra but before the 41st millenium in a plot to clone the warmaster... shit my memory is going i have the book somewhere ill find it and quote it for you eventaully haha.

[Axnor11]

i supposse that's a better explanation, but one can always dream, and btw, i know he stayed with horus, but he felt regret, maybe he turned from chaos? I could' t find anything about him, except from the books

[GeneralRevan501]

Tarkin! Loken! No!!

[Maxen89]

Quite funny to see the librarians shoot high above "Loken and Abbadon".

[FifthWindLegion]

I am in complete agreement. The reason one he the librarians moved up to the other was to hopefully stop that and get them into close combat. But then they started shooting high again...

[Xoliar]

LOKEN!!! TARIK!!! DAMN YOU ABADDON AND AXIMAND and FABIUS. DAMN YOU FOR TURNING Emperors children to Chaos.

[Dungbats]

for Abaddnon, u should've used a Terminator Champion, just my imput

[jab725]

u relise that arogon was only a demon prince after 10000 years of wershiping krone

[FifthWindLegion]

Yes, but that was the best way to represent a Primarch.

[sammmfrg]

no angron was the frst primarch to turn daemon prince. he was a d. prince during the siege on emperors palace

[FifthWindLegion]

But he wasnt a D. Prince during the Dropsite MAssacre, which is when this takes place.

[chegers1]

im starting to wonder there may still be a living primarch forgoton and lost on a planet and maybe marines will find him could happen you know

[sioc88]

not likely .... the primarchs unlike the emperor can die of old age and the ones not killed in battle eventually did die many years ago ... the only ones that are still "alive" are the traitor primarchs that rose up to demi-god like status after the horas heresy

[iammjolnir]

actually two primarchs were never found. that or they never survived long enough to be found.

[ImperialFist40k]

Actually thats wrong. GW never said they weren't found. And in The Lightning Towers there is a hint on what could have been happened to them. Dorn is in one scene sorry for the lost 2 primarchs and cant understand how horus can turn against the emperor and why he didnt learn anything from the fate of the 2 (for us) unknown primarchs.

[FifthWindLegion]

And with that, we know that both Primarchs were found, died/disappeared, and forcibly forgotten most before or during the Great Crusade.

[GuntherVonVon]

GW has catorgorically promised that they will never reveal the identity of the two unknown legions. Shame because it could be so cool.

[kannabiskukertaja]

The Marines befor the heresy were much better than the ones now befor their gene seed was all new now its a bit corrupted witch has come to the new chapters losing some of the abilities and are a bit smaller than befor the heresy with bad luck :p

[FifthWindLegion]

Only some of the Geneseed was corrupted, remember. Chapters like the Red Scorpians (Imperial Armor, Vol. 4) take great pride in showing off how pure their Geneseed is.

[Greyknightserve666]

Tarvitz wasnt part of the sons of horus he was a captain in the emporers children

[cardnals100]

by the way what map was this?

[FifthWindLegion]

Pavonis

[cardnals100]

it never really said loken was dead =P

[FifthWindLegion]

Well, he's severly bleeding under tons (literally!) of rubble, while the entire city is being bombed...again. I think he is down for the count.

[Greyknightserve666]

he still was a space marine and before the heresy the marines where so much harder to kill

[FifthWindLegion]

what makes them any different than the ones today, other than having worse armor?

If you cannot move, while being crushed by tonns of rubble, with a freakin spaceship firing at you, when just before getting pummeled by one of the greatest fighters outside of the primarchs, how long would you survive?

[Greyknightserve666]

Angron survived almost the same thing

[chegers1]

well if garro can survive a plumet onto the moon with the lord of the flies ripping his ceremite armour off of his front and having sever burns from his skin being exposed and still kill the ord of the flies and walk back to the silnet sisters sanctuary i think loken just might live

[FifthWindLegion]

Not for very long. Remember, Garro knew he would die soon, and made it a point to finish the fight quickly.

[BloodKnightHinter]

the battle at 1:01 was seriously epic

[viperoxxx]

wait...not all of the emperors children were traitors?I didnt know it...

[FifthWindLegion]

Read the Book "Galaxy in Flames", or for that matter, the entire HH series to learn more.

[chegers1]

read the books mate they r are very good read and yes there were lots of loyalist marines in the trator legions but most were killed by horus

[JoshPWNED]

The only thing I would critise is that Angron wasn't a daemon Prince at that time.. but i guess its hard to find a sub..

[FifthWindLegion]

Only way to represent a Primarch.

[DemonX99]

It'd be epic to have a 4v4 game (all people you know) have each team be the same legion, and have an epic battle ala the ending of Fulgrim.

[FifthWindLegion]

Which, hoping DoW will let me stay online long enough to allow me to do, I will do just that, except 3v5, as there was only 3 Loyalist Legions.

[cardnals100]

why'd you kill loken off? =(

[FifthWindLegion]

Because he died in the end anywaay, and it worked for this vid.

[fixdeluxe1]

I wished someone came out with a horus mod because of the fact i have only seen horus in my rulebook facing the emperor

[FifthWindLegion]

Good luck making him balanced...

[cardnals100]

in begining were the world eaters fighting loyalist world eaters?

[Scotsgit]

In most of the legions there were those who stayed loyal to the Emperor. Horus sent the ones from his and other legions onto Istvan III and then virus-bombed the planet. He then massacred three other loyalist legions at Istvan V.

[FifthWindLegion]

Which, btw, I will have a vid of soon (Isstvan V Massacre)

[BloodDX2]

yeah dreadnaughts are wounded o fallen marines who still have life in them to go on fighting and are thus preserved in a dreadnaught. the first defiler was actually an attepmt at a new imperial vehicle but was found with its crew dead and a daemon bound to it, abbodon had these machines mass produced and each machine hs a daemon bound to it.

[LitttleD94]

I thought Dreadnoughts had a spirit of a Space Marine in them.

[FifthWindLegion]

Nope, just the remains of a Space Marine that didn't want to die yet. Chaos Dreads go nuts because they hate their imprisonment inside a Dread.

[LitttleD94]

Ah. I take it they didn't have much choice in the matter? Hahaha.

[FifthWindLegion]

Pretty much.

[PieMan1018]

I was thinking of a chaos dread shit my bad (I feel like an ass)

[CranisOktar]

All i can say is .

For Khorne!

[rossyeomans81]

Intro says 'Tarvitz, of the Sons of Horus' but Tarvitz is Emperor's Children ;)

[polkjhgfdsaqw]

yeah but a

chaos dreadnaught would pwn

[polkjhgfdsaqw]

how come chaos don;t have chaos dreadnaughts terminators and grey knights?

[FifthWindLegion]

Dreads: Remember, this game is also meant to be played by people who don't normally play Warhammer 40k (which I assume you are, explanation later), so they didn't want Identical armies.

Terminators:Remember, this game is also meant to be played by people who don't normally play Warhammer 40k (which I assume you are, explanation later), so they didn't want Identical armies.

[FifthWindLegion]

Grey Knights: The sole job of the Grey Knights is to hunt down Daemons and Chaos Space Marines. Do you now see why they don't include Grey Knights in the Chaos Space Marine army?

[gunslinger92x45]

if you don't mind me asking when are you going to make the sequel to this about the drop site massacre

[FifthWindLegion]

I really need to do that, I will try soon, but no promises.

I also need to find a good song that I have on my comp.

[PieMan1018]

Dreadnoughts are mortally wounded SM who use the dread as life support...

[PieMan1018]

The chaos have Defilers which are crazed space marines but are chained up instead of just sleeping and will kill on site (in REAL 40k)

[FifthWindLegion]

Lie.

Dreadnoughts are crazed SM's.

Defilers were created by Abbadon the Despoiler that have part of a Daemon bounded to it.

[PieMan1018]

Dreadnauts are mortally wounded space marines and Defilers are still crazed chaos space marines.

[PieMan1018]

I meant CSM

[FifthWindLegion]

No, they aren't. Actually read their entry in the CSM Codex, and you will see how wrong you are.

[PieMan1018]

I was told from a friend who is in to chaos (I play Eldar)

[FifthWindLegion]

I'm telling you as another guy who plays Chaos. If you don't believe me, look at your friend's Codex.

[atemymotorboat]

Angron wasn't the Daemon Prince that time damnit.

[FifthWindLegion]

How else do you think I should have represented a Primarch, who was bigger, stronger, and better in any way to a normal Marine?

[gunslinger92x45]

no but he was close to becoming one he already heard the whispers of chaos

[Rickman112]

wish it was better graphics lol

[tal0n1100]

Dude Saul Tarvitz was of the Emporer's Children

[Horusaxmind]

I was about to type the same thing

[FifthWindLegion]

Yes I made a mistake but it was pointed out a long time ago.

[tal0n1100]

oo cant u make a quick fix tho

[ArcanMaster]

Tarvitz es de los Hijos del Emperador no es ningun hijo de Horus

[grameron]

this is pretty cool but way to run the game on the lowest possible setting. :P

[wingman552]

good job

[hjorturmh]

No, the Legion of the Damned was part of the 21st Founding. The two missing Legions are there because Games Workshop wants people to make up their own Legions. They have no plans Whatsoever to release any info about those two Legions.

[UndergroundRebelArmy]

They wouldn't be able to put the emperor on a Dreadnought because if they take him of his throne his soul will reunite with his body and many people are afraid what will happen if his soul reunites with his body and he would go crazy because is souls was outside of his body for soul long and start klling people. plus if they put him on a dreadnought he would proably lose alot of his powers in the process. But the inquistion wont let anybody take his body off the throne

[Iwillaimaturhead]

thx

[Iwillaimaturhead]

wow, to tell you the truth i just read every comment, but i didn't understand half of it, so it leads me to this question... who at the end of the Horus Heresy are the traitors and the loyalists?

For the EMPEROR!!!

Yes i am new to the W40K universe.

[FifthWindLegion]

Traitors: Sons of Horus (Black Legion), World Eaters, Emperor's Children, Thousand Sons, Death Guard, Night Lords, Alpha Legion, Iron Warriors, Word Bearers.

Loyalists: Ultramarines, Salamanders, Raven Guard, Blood Angels, Iron Hands, White Scars, Imperial Fists, Dark Angels, Space Wolves

[eldrad9999]

Missed Red corsairs for traitors. :)

Nice vid anyway.

[FifthWindLegion]

The Red Corsairs were not part of the Horus Heresy. They were much later during the Badab Wars. Tehre were 9 Loyal and 9 Traitor Legions during the Heresy.

[supajasiu]

Strange... weren't 20 Legions established during the first founding? What about 2 other Legions?

[MKllDark4ngel]

one was legion of the damned i believe the other one remains a mystery

[lifestinkslikepoo]

no te legion of the dammned turned up later after being suked into the warp

[iammjolnir]

two primarchs were apparently never found. the legion of the damned was just a chapter trapped in the warp for a while. they are loyal but act weird. they show up win the battle and leave.

[MKllDark4ngel]

why iron warriors why

[CadianGuard001]

Wow, this really pwns. If olny I could get back into this.

[dragomanser]

you guys r not gonna belive me but...i was the one who was playing as the chaos and the traitors in this vid.

[FifthWindLegion]

It's true, I can vouch.

[tulud]

the emperor should be put on a dreadnought

[polkjhgfdsaqw]

what is a virus bomb?

[FifthWindLegion]

First, they release toxins on the planet that will literally annialate any organic matter it can find, until all it is is a big mush, this includes Space Marines. One crack in the armor is all it takes. Then, with all the flammable gases created because of the virus, a lance strike is sent from orbit, lighting the entire world on fire.

Very happy thought, I know.

[polkjhgfdsaqw]

thnx i know its a very happy thought

[iammjolnir]

god I love the smell of roasted heretics in the mornig. it smells like victory.

[Concretehunter]

please reply if you know whats dawn of war directory and how do you open it

[FifthWindLegion]

Random comment, but you press and hold Ctrl, Tab, ~ in that order.

[UndergroundRebelArmy]

ya wasn't the sons of horus called the luna wolves

[FifthWindLegion]

Before they were the Sons of Horus, yes.

[Ellis307]

u got loads of the legions mixed up

[FifthWindLegion]

No, I didn't. Read the actual book this movie is based off of.

Sons of Horus, Death Guard, World Eaters, and Emperor's children go traitor, and send units to the surface of their own legions that would not have gone traitor. After they realized they've been betrayed, the Sons of Horus go back to being Luna Wolves, and the loyalists fight the traitors, until they are all wiped out.

[starscreamstrooper]

u fucked up at 1.44 thisis a great vid but u said that the traitor legions where fighting the other traitors

[boxxermann]

what? lol

[iammjolnir]

nope those are the loyalist elements holding out against the traitor forces.

[lifestinkslikepoo]

tbh i think it smells more like toast

[christheevilone]

Nice, I like it.

The music was a good choice.

I have to say only that last scene had enough Marines, the others where a bit small I think.

[that0guy0over0there]

It's alright, but i find DOW makes for choppy videos, and chaos units always have oddly proportioned heads on the game... The Daemon Prince's head looks like a walnut on an elephant, same with the defilers...

You ought to try and remove the HUD completely, though im not sure how... Good work anyway though

[HazeWarhammer40k]

Great Vid but Saul Tarvitz was a loyalist Emporer's Children. Your probably thinking of Loken.

[FifthWindLegion]

Yes, I was.

[Seakea]

I loved the HH books I've read so far, it would definitely make for a great movie.

But Abbadon was in a suit of Terminator armor wasn't he? I know that in DoW no termie would beat a captain, but it would've been cool to see regardless.

[DuelCaliber]

The combined might of the emporers children, the luna Wolves and the WORLD EATERS?

[ZelganasAshHeart]

is the pre-chaos alpha legion included?

[FifthWindLegion]

not in this vid, but the Horus Heresy book Legion talks all about the Alpha Legion pre-heresy

[ZelganasAshHeart]

I know thats how I learned about Alpharius and his twin etc, read it like 5 times tryin to get an early copy of the next book

[cardnals100]

is there an editor in dawn of war?

[FifthWindLegion]

no, Google Camcam lite, and you can download it for free.

[guyinpants]

poor solomon demeter kills his own SMs then dies by Lucius

[FifthWindLegion]

yup, that is the trickery of chaos.

[Dudkillah]

Burn The Heretic indeed

[foolycoolykingy]

Great movie, reminds me of the book series alot. And makes me want to smash some Chaos Marines to bits :P

[FullyCuhz]

fight or die, it is all a service to chaos.

[FifthWindLegion]

That is very true, all fighting aids Khorne, all excess aids Slannesh, any hope and change aids Tzeentch, and any disease aids Nurgle.

[fisyr]

The Loyalist focres resisting Horus were true heroes worhty of the Emperor.

The fought their own brothers in His name. What a shame the Emperor's children betrayed Him. I liked them.

[thegold23]

acctualy you should of used the imperial fists for the SM because the imperial fists where the ones that deffended when the horus heresey started

[FifthWindLegion]

Read the book...

When this happened, the Imperial Fists were on Terra. This was on Istvann III. The loyalist forces of the Luna Wolves, Emepror's Children, Death Guard, and Imperial Army were sent down to the surface to be virus bombed by the traitors. At the end, it worked.

[Sindwen]

hey is it true that after the death guard turned to chaos and got the plagues there still is some of the last remaining death guard that still are good and not chaos

[raf0419]

I wish they would make a movie based on the horus heresy... Istvaan would be as sad as order 66 was in star wars. =D

[RED171286]

¡Muerte al falso Emperador!

La Evolución:

Lobos Lunares---->Hijos de Horus---->Legión Negra

[raf0419]

In reference to Angron near the beginning... I thought that the traitor primarchs didn't become daemon princes untill after the heresy. I may be wrong though. Am only using what I have been able to gather from wikipedia. Good vid btw =D