I just hope someday there will be some hardware manufacturer smart enough to make use again of this smart designed advanced technology that amiga had.
no.. actually its called macintosh cause you see amiga used RISC based cpu's like old macintosh did. But.. i was talking about smart design which both mac's and (especially) pc's lack.
So what do you know about the design after all? Ever programmed x86 assembler? Or 680x0? And ever tried some 1986 PC system? Even the latest PC systems suffer from the bad design of the PC's of the 80's.
Oh, this must be why PCs are still alive and in full health, while Amigas failed miserably to survive the '90s.
Don't misunderstand me: I love Amigas and all old and new computers and consoles, they are both a piece of history and very interesting machines, but you can't seriously deny that the standard based and compatible hardware structure of PC's let them use ever the most advanced solutions.
Amiga also had a standard based and compatible hardware structure, even much better than PCs. The only reason why PCs succeeded: Cheap and clonable without paying fees.
Jokes apart, I find more attractive the respectful point of view: 68xxx were nice CPUs, but why spit on Intel and AMD ones? 386 and 486, they have strong points too. And today, the Athlon X2, Phenom, Core, Core 2 and I7 are all wonderful CPUs. Ok, also the Powerful IBM PowerPC 3.2 Mhz in the Xbox360 is fantastic, the Cell is interesting, and that what proves? These CPUs can peacefully survive togheter.
It's not about the CPU, it's about the entire design. In Amiga you plugged in a card and it automatically had it's AutoConfig stuff going on (plugnplay before plugnplay was invented on PC). It also never had IRQ or memory range conflicts, it had 32 bit address range from day 0 where I had to spend years with 64kB segments on PC, there was a very good multitasking OS when PCs were still using MS-DOS for several years to come etc etc. Several of the AmigaOS features I even miss in todays OS'es.
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On the compatibility issue, the PCs can handle hundred of thousands of peripherals, the Amigas and Macs only the few that were designed specifically for them, this is why you do not have conflicts. Windows is even too efficient to manage such an enormous, unlimited pool of peripherals.
By the way, keep enjoying your Amiga, I have some work to do on my Intel quad core, so I'll stop to respond this post.
No, the conflicts on PC were "by design" with certain slots assigned to certain memory ranges and IRQs. It had nothing to do with the amount of hardware available. I remember that every time you tried to add a new card, you had to swap cards into different slots until there was no harmful conflict anymore. On Amiga you never had to do that.
@Jawattdenn Yes Amigas had autoconfig, automatically assigning unused resources to new cards, so you had no conflicts. It took Windows another decade to get that.
@Jawattdenn its true, unfortunately Jay Miner, don't survive to struggle a war with pc's, and evening Microsoft, ho copy numbers figs from Amiga, last example it's Zune, a word is't patent to Amiga, and Microsoft don't pay. MS sucks.
Hi......=) First WHAT a incredible nice demo, very nice programing and code aswell graphic idea..everything is just awesome..I know it must been lot of log nights to make this and it is done whith a Amiga that is really cool.
Great talent. Massive electronic music.
JackTorranceReDruM 3 months ago
The Fucking Americans killed Amiga now we are stuck with shit Mac and Windows
dazado75 5 months ago 2
AAA chipset would do Avatar back in '93.
makrisj 5 months ago
can some one explain me wtf did i just watched? its cool, but im confused D:
MIDNIGHTCLUB2FAN 5 months ago
This is amazing. I shit my pants
TheSwanies 5 months ago
Awesome. :)
stevieu83 6 months ago
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Coerlin 1 year ago
Hey guys, any ideas about the source of the vocal sample played from 3:40 to 3:50 ??
Atad64 1 year ago
@Atad64 Babylon 5
nlmoreaux 9 months ago
@Atad64 Not a clue, but I'd not bet against either Star Trek (The Borg) or Dr. Who (The Daleks)
Gamegeneral 8 months ago
Does Hewlet-Packard have any kick-ass demos like this? I've never seen any if there are. (-_-)
BluTrilobite 1 year ago
Awesome!!!!!!
ERFJ 1 year ago
wow! this is really great! =)
still love my Amiga!
slimSEBIhamburg 1 year ago
Another great piece...! Amazing demo!
It's good to see, that Amiga still lives!
AMIGA FOR EVER!!!
nszeba2 2 years ago 2
The Amiga "Ball" demo was better! ;-)
kyrkbymannen 2 years ago
just.... WOW!!!
I ever loved Amiga, that's a great demonstration of power...and class.
Maw!!! ( smash XD )
Outlander999 2 years ago
one of the best amiga demos I've ever seen. It even run smoothly on a real amiga with a 060 :)
superturbo2 2 years ago
Just amazing... AMIGA POWA !!!!
djustplc 3 years ago
incredible
Svendsor 3 years ago
TBL simply kickss ass. And now is turn to Atari Falcon version!
vlgtube 3 years ago
Atari Falcon PUNCH!!!!
Xteaphn 3 years ago
I just hope someday there will be some hardware manufacturer smart enough to make use again of this smart designed advanced technology that amiga had.
ClitoriousCeasar 3 years ago
It exist, and is called personal computer.
positron77 3 years ago
no.. actually its called macintosh cause you see amiga used RISC based cpu's like old macintosh did. But.. i was talking about smart design which both mac's and (especially) pc's lack.
ClitoriousCeasar 3 years ago
Well, if Amiga design is smart compared to the PC one, I am Godzilla.
positron77 3 years ago
You are godzilla.
Jawattdenn 3 years ago
No, I am GAMERA, and i will crush Amiga bad design with my ARMOUR-PLATED DORSAL ARMOUR! :)
positron77 3 years ago
So what do you know about the design after all? Ever programmed x86 assembler? Or 680x0? And ever tried some 1986 PC system? Even the latest PC systems suffer from the bad design of the PC's of the 80's.
Jawattdenn 3 years ago
Oh, this must be why PCs are still alive and in full health, while Amigas failed miserably to survive the '90s.
Don't misunderstand me: I love Amigas and all old and new computers and consoles, they are both a piece of history and very interesting machines, but you can't seriously deny that the standard based and compatible hardware structure of PC's let them use ever the most advanced solutions.
positron77 3 years ago
Amiga also had a standard based and compatible hardware structure, even much better than PCs. The only reason why PCs succeeded: Cheap and clonable without paying fees.
Jawattdenn 3 years ago 12
Jokes apart, I find more attractive the respectful point of view: 68xxx were nice CPUs, but why spit on Intel and AMD ones? 386 and 486, they have strong points too. And today, the Athlon X2, Phenom, Core, Core 2 and I7 are all wonderful CPUs. Ok, also the Powerful IBM PowerPC 3.2 Mhz in the Xbox360 is fantastic, the Cell is interesting, and that what proves? These CPUs can peacefully survive togheter.
positron77 3 years ago
It's not about the CPU, it's about the entire design. In Amiga you plugged in a card and it automatically had it's AutoConfig stuff going on (plugnplay before plugnplay was invented on PC). It also never had IRQ or memory range conflicts, it had 32 bit address range from day 0 where I had to spend years with 64kB segments on PC, there was a very good multitasking OS when PCs were still using MS-DOS for several years to come etc etc. Several of the AmigaOS features I even miss in todays OS'es.
Jawattdenn 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
On the compatibility issue, the PCs can handle hundred of thousands of peripherals, the Amigas and Macs only the few that were designed specifically for them, this is why you do not have conflicts. Windows is even too efficient to manage such an enormous, unlimited pool of peripherals.
By the way, keep enjoying your Amiga, I have some work to do on my Intel quad core, so I'll stop to respond this post.
positron77 3 years ago
No, the conflicts on PC were "by design" with certain slots assigned to certain memory ranges and IRQs. It had nothing to do with the amount of hardware available. I remember that every time you tried to add a new card, you had to swap cards into different slots until there was no harmful conflict anymore. On Amiga you never had to do that.
Jawattdenn 3 years ago 5
@Jawattdenn Yes Amigas had autoconfig, automatically assigning unused resources to new cards, so you had no conflicts. It took Windows another decade to get that.
Barry3443 1 year ago
@Jawattdenn its true, unfortunately Jay Miner, don't survive to struggle a war with pc's, and evening Microsoft, ho copy numbers figs from Amiga, last example it's Zune, a word is't patent to Amiga, and Microsoft don't pay. MS sucks.
1NOM155 3 months ago
@positron77 - Amiga architecture is far more efficient that the primitive cobbled together PC hardware.
PCs are dirt cheap though, I just spent $1400.00 on a 15 year old Amiga 4000. :(
I could have purchased two decent pcs new for that. :(
Oh well, you get what you pay for.
JasperAbraxxious 1 year ago
Holy shit.
Kermamorjens 3 years ago
masterclass. biggest respect.
I think we all agree on that one: amiga rulezzz.
so does TBL. (and Nerve Axis. :))
romaneberle 3 years ago
OMFG!
THIS IS JUST AWESOME!
WONDERFUL WORK! THIS IS STATE OF THE ART!
AMIGA WILL LIVE FOREVER
and as i can see now
NOT ONLY IN MY HEART :D
EXCELENT WORK!
cheers!
dia8el 3 years ago 2
OMFG!
THIS IS JUST AWESOME!
WONDERFUL WORK! THIS IS STATE OF THE ART!
AMIGA WILL LIVE FOREVER
and as i can see now
NOT ONLY IN MY HEART :D
EXCELENT WORK!
cheers!
dia8el 3 years ago
Hi......=) First WHAT a incredible nice demo, very nice programing and code aswell graphic idea..everything is just awesome..I know it must been lot of log nights to make this and it is done whith a Amiga that is really cool.
Cnltaf 4 years ago 2
Amiga? Incredible! What type of amiga, just a normal Amiga 1200 with AGA or something with more power?
sacreleases 4 years ago 6
Hi! YES!!! The demo works fine on my Amiga 1200 with 68060 CPU ;-))
amigastar 4 years ago 6