BART Transit Officer Johannes Mehserle Arrested for 2nd Degree Murder for the Oakland Shooting Death of Oscar Grant

[Pnkstr0221]

If the role was reversed and a cop was killed dude would have been on death row

[49502carl]

PUSSY COP.

[panteraman32]

this bullshit about him reaching for a taser is insane. If you've seen the full video, the officer, pulled out the gun, set the barrel on grant's back, lifted it slightly, then fired. A cop who can't tell the difference between a gun and a taser in that amount of time should not be a cop in the first place. I believe full heartedly that he intended to kill. Also did anyone notice that all the cops in the video are white, while everyone they had against the wall were members of minority groups?

[fmnma1]

@panteraman32

Doesn't it make you sick, that the officer here, only served 9 months. That's the reason why the Oakland riots started, however they should have went further, and took a few cops with them.

[FinWolf100]

he should have been given the death sentence!

[fmnma1]

@FinWolf100

Nope, 9 months, ... 9 freaking months, for an excuse to murder someone. He I personally think, wanted to kill someone, and had never had that chance. He wanted to know how it felt, and his compulsions for this, was probably listening to his 'brothers' kill people, and he wanted to feel that power. Again 9 MONTHS!

[FinWolf100]

@fmnma1 what imeant was he deserved the death sentence beauce he sncelessly killed someone

[greg8125]

Now the cops have a perfect excuse when killing people. "Oh, I thought I was holding my taser."

[ndwolstenholme]

cappin niggas in the hood and he gets off....nice. i want to be a cop.

[0515524847]

WOW...A Cop killed an unarmed citizen & got just 2 years in jail. WOW

[ssn708]

It is difficult to make a point in <500 characters. I feel now and then I must state that I do not feel that Grant deserved to die, and I feel that Mehserle was criminally negligent and absolutely deserves prison time. This was proven to be an accident, Mehserle intended to tase, not shoot, Grant. Grant was a career criminal who assaulted officers and resisted arrest but that does not make it ok to kill him. Grant should be alive, and both he and Mehserle should be home with their children.

[jrowe6]

also tasering someone for compliance should be illegal

[jrowe6]

it should not matter if he mistook his gun for a taser. his actions ended in killing someone, are we not all responsible for our own actions?

[ssn708]

@jrowe6 Absolutely. However, we do not punish accidents the same as intentional acts. His actions were criminally negligent and he deserves prison time for sure. My only point is that he did not intend to kill Oscar Grant.

[jrowe6]

@ssn708 if we get rid of the cops being allowed to use tasers in this situation there would be no reason for any weapon to be drawn. tasering for compliance is founded on the basis of torture, it is not a defensive move, it is not to immobilise, it is to put into so much pain you give up your convictions and give in. this is a fundamental flaw in the use of tasers against our own citizens. the system is at fault for allowing this to be how shit gets done, Mehserle's is at fault for incompetince

[jrowe6]

@jrowe6 also, i have seen loads of footage and i do not see much resisting going on here. two grown ass male cops cant keep a hold of a single young man face down on the concrete......? if they are that incompetent i do not want to be paying their salary and i want them off the street. i believe this is murder, sorry, but there is nothing that can make this seem at all accidental or anything that should allow the officer to lower his criminal responsibility. jail for life, or death sentence.

[ssn708]

@jrowe6 First, Grant assaulted 2 officers (Dominici and Pirone) before they even tried to cuff anyone. Then, when they decided to cuff Grant, he rolled halfway onto his back to try and keep them from being able to cuff him. Then they wrestles with him for 30 seconds to try and pull his hands out from under him. It is not whether they can "keep hold" of him, it is whether they can cuff him! Yews, this was 100% accidental as was proven, he intended to tase which was appropriate to the situation.

[ssn708]

@jrowe6 You over-simplify. If we take away tasers, you leave batons which cause considerably more injury on average and leave officers at greater risk than tasers, meaning they will use them more quoickly and brutally. Tasing for compliance is not based on torture, it is based on compliance. Once the police decide you are going with them, that is what is going to happen, your "convictions" are moot. Your only choice is how much it is going to hurt. Do you think beating with a baton is better?

[jrowe6]

@ssn708 pain compliance is torture, not sure how that can be mistaken. i do not think tasers should be abandoned, they are a great defensive weapon. i do not believe in hurting people till they do what you tell them to, that is pathetic.

where did you see Grant assaulting the other officers? or where did the info come from anyway? i would like to see it for myself.

[ssn708]

@jrowe6 Pain compliance is not torture, there is a huge distinction. Mace is pain compliance. Joint locks are pain compliance. Your statement is simply false, they are legal and justifiable tools to bring criminals into custody. I guess cops should just hand them the cuffs, or ask them to please come down to the station when it is convenient? Sorry, but this is the real world. When a criminal resists, they will be forced to comply. Go to any other country, resist arrest, and see what happens.

[ssn708]

@jrowe6 As far as his assaults on officers Dominici and Pirone, this is a matter of court record. There is video of both. The most clear video of the assault on Dominici that I have found was taken down because the poster's account was removed due to numerous copyright infringements. I am still looking for a copy as clear, but for starters you can look here for "Oscar Grant Knees BART officer Tony Pirone in the groin". In the same video you also see Grant violently Grab Dominici's arm.

[jrowe6]

@ssn708 that video does not support what you have said. i think you opinion of the law and police officers is making you biased to whats really happening. you are not seeing what is happening, you are seeing things how you want to see them and twisting the situation. just like the police do all the time to get out of trouble, i do hope you are not an officer. if you are, you may as well stop arguing on here, such a biased point of view is invalid on all counts.

[ssn708]

@jrowe6 Actually, if you knew anything about me you would know my opinion of police would support the exact opposite of what I have been saying about this case. I am an advocate for citizens over police. However, that also means throwing the BS flag when it needs to be thrown, as it does here. The video proves EVERYTHING I have said, all 100% verifiable. My view is not biased, it is solely based on proven facts. Tell me exactly what you think is false, and I will be happy to prove it to you.

[jrowe6]

@ssn708 just to make sure we are on the same page, in my last reply to you i was refering to the video where the officer was "Assaulted" by Grant. in that video it looked quite clear to me that the officer assaulted Grant and Grant attempted to shield himself possibly hitting the officer with his knee.

we obviously see things a bit different, i am also a citizens over police type person so i will assume that we share some common ground on alot of things so i'd rather not argue.

[jrowe6]

@jrowe6 instead, i would like to hear what you think the outcome of the situation should be. what punishment do you see fit for the officer's involved in the situation?

[ssn708]

@jrowe6 It was proven that officer Pirone did not assault Grant. Immediately after Grant grabbed officer Dominici by the arm, Pirone came over, put his hand behind Grant's head, and pushed him to the ground. This is shown in "BART shooting video vindicates officer". Now, Pirone was a fuck, and I would have a lot less problem believing that Pirone intentionally killed someone. As far as appropriate punishment, I feel Mehserle got an appropriate sentence, and no other officer broke the law.

[jemal99]

proper news, can't stand fox 

[jstacks1500]

THIS SENTENCE IS BULLSHIT..........2 YEARS FOR MURDER..........THIS SCUMBAG WILL BE FREE IN 6 MONTHS WITH TIME ALREADY SERVED.......THIS CONFIRMS THAT A BLACK OR BROWN LIFE IS WORTH LESS THAN A CAUCASIAN LIFE IN THE EYES OF OUR COUNTRYS JUDICIAL SYSTEM.....WHICH IS HOW THEY ARE KEEPING US DOWN....LETS IMPLEMENT 3 STRIKES..... LETS BUILD JAILS.......LETS KILL THEM......AND MAKE UP SOME BULLSHIT EXCUSE.....

[ssn708]

@jstacks1500 That is simple fallacy. An accident is punished differently than an intentional act. The father in Wisconsin who pulled the gun from its case and accidentally shot and killed his son, how much prison time should he get? Two years is appropriate for a criminally negligent homicide such as this. Race does not enter into it, only race baiting professional victims would attempt to make the argument that it does.

[biorgymd]

"Who will govern the governors? There is only one force in the nation that can be depended upon to keep the government pure and the governors honest, and that is the people themselves. They alone, if well informed, are capable of preventing the corruption of power, and of restoring the nation to its rightful course if it should go astray. They alone are the safest depository of the ultimate powers of government"

- Thomas Jefferson

[biorgymd]

What I find so odd, is that it appears, to me at least, that CNN keeps going back and forth, acting like they want to try and convince the viewing public that the shooting was justified. I would say the American Media is just as bad as this shooting. I wish the police would taze mike brooks

[gohardproductionzz]

DID THIS FUCKIN COP GET OFF FOR THIS SHIT....

[ssn708]

@gohardproductionzz No, he was convicted of involuntary manslaughter, which this was. He faces 3-14 years when sentenced.

[WorldWatcher9]

@gohardproductionzz yes and its a fuckin shame that black leaders sat back and did nothing. at least shut down that cities highways shut down work, drives some cars on the expressway and turn them off and block it for miles let protestors just walk on the highway interlock and sit. cops can arrest them one by one we have a right to protest its only one night in jail for a boys life. the only law is the law of survival if a cop trys to kill you. your only option is to kill them first

[sincalrider559]

Bart should of used a cross draw pursedure when tazer were given to officers. The central valley had this happen same verdict given. A tazer and gun will fell the same in stressfull incidents. The bay needs to wacth the news more. Grow up pay attention to other agencies. By the way their are more wangstars to officers in the bay. Were was the roits for the four white officers murdered my the pos parolee.

[GunfireGangster]

How could that cop not know what weapon he had in his hand , does a taser got the same feeling as a gun?? i don't think so bullshit lies

[GunfireGangster]

Hes gonna get raped in jail for being a cop.

[chuey115]

You guys are ignorant. Yes there is a tragic loss but it was not murder it was a complete accident. This just means they might want to rethink where they put the tazer. I say issue all police officers a tactical vest and place the tazer on their gun side but on the stomach part of the tactical vest.

[WorldWatcher9]

a mistake how the fuck could you not know your reaching for your gun even after you pull it out and put it up against someones back...these are the people they give deadly weapons to a unleash on citizens? the tazer should have been kept on the other side of your belt. and is he knew he was about to taze the subject he would have made the other officer step back...just bullshit media trying to cloud the fact that it was murder. someones son is dead for no reason thats no fuckin mistake

[ssn708]

@WorldWatcher9 He didn't put the taser against his back, he stood up and fired at the lower back as you would do with a taser. You say if he intended to tase Grant he would have made the other officers step back? So he would shoot a .40 cal downward against a hard surface without making officers step back? Ever hear of ricochet? Much more likely he would fire a taser with officers nearby. Ever watch a taser training video? Cops HOLD the cop in training while he is being tased. No need to back up

[WorldWatcher9]

@ssn708 man dont even wanna hear an excuse for this bullshit after immediatly

hearing the shot the officer didnt seem surprised or remorseful like oh shit i just shot somebody when i intended to tase them, he continued to cuff a lifeless body and left him there without seeking medical attention for the victim. your probably white and just trying to convince black people that what happened was'nt anything less than murder . survival is the only law if a cop aims to shoot you kill them first.

[ssn708]

@WorldWatcher9 You're wrong. Immediately after the shot he had an extremely shocked look on his face, and put both hands on his head like "OH FUCK!". It was not murder, it was a horribly negligent mistake, a criminally negligent one and he deserves prison time. But murder? Bullshit. Aside from the fact that no one would intentionally fire a .40 cal down against a hard surface (RICOCHET) no one would execute someone for no reason in front of a train full of witnesses w/ cameras.Just common sense

[boogiboarder19]

this is bs

[TheNewMusicNetwork]

the cop should fry for what he did. I don't like afro-bozos but it doesn't matter because cops do this same stuff to white people all the fuckin time. I've got youtube videos of it. So no one deserves what happened to that guy.

[dlc208]

fine- let the people in oakland have no police and see how they like it then when criminals take over everything. Isn't it possible the guy made a mistake? so why are you rioting in the street?

[TheNewMusicNetwork]

What good are the police when they are assauliting, murdering and tazering people to death? what good are they????

if they're not doing that, they are giving people traffic tickets and ruining their lives.

I say we ban the police dept, they won't be their when a home invasion happens anyway. only a gun will save you from that.

I say we ban theses criminal cops/scum and start a community policing org that doesn't give tickets(revenue scam) + is hands off approach.

case closed

[baconfat19]

Where are we safe? how many more people died on a "supposedly" accident this is just one guy who made a live mistake but what about the others who are still killing on "accidents"

this worlds going to hell with gasoline draws on

[baconfat19]

I know not everyone is good and bad but honestly it was wrong the only person fault is the person who pulled the trigger he been on the force for 2 years and he can not tell the difference it just makes no sense and just to think i once thought "to protect and to serve" was really intend for the people it hurts because i actually believed in the law but we still have "mistakes" like these wow Some system we have here!! yes wicked awesome death by the Justice System talk about irony

[gladiator1010]

Imagine if this had been a "regular joe" that had pulled this stunt

They would have found him guilty and shot him to death immediately

How many murders happen "off camera" we will never know

[keilyngodson26]

Even a taser would have been excessive, though.

[xHead1Bustahx]

KILL THAT COP AND GUT HIM LIKE THE PIG HE IS!!!!

[DjLuxorXradio]

I just love how the ghetto responds. You guys act like your so put out...that instead of feeling bad for grant...you riot and protest. I just read that there were $200,000 in damages due to protests...like it was the poor store owners fault that a black man was killed...who, by the way, was drunk, high, had been in a fight, tried to run, and has previous prison time for gun and drug charges. I would think you all would be happy hes not around your kids anymore, but no! You damage stores instead.

[keilyngodson26]

@DjLuxorXradio Its not just the ghetto, bitch. There are actually more whites and Latinos putting in work for Oscar Grant in the streets. I know, Im in California shitbrain. Stop watching so much t.v. and get a life dumbfuck.

[gladiator1010]

@DjLuxorXradio "drunk and high" does not warrant death sentence

It shouldn't even warrant jail time unless he actually harmed someone else

People who don't have a clue about common law acting as law advocates...ridiculous!

This kind of attitude is

EXACTLY the reason why there is so much division in our society, it is not helping anyone and certainly is no solution

[mytaylor310]

Four officers are on top of this kid and they can,t get him in cuffs this one cop (coward) pulls his gun and presses it into the kids back and fires his weapon knowingly and intentionally .If you shoot some one accidentally do you think the cops are going to care that it was an accident no your going to prison .But this is just how corrupt this nation has become .Here you have what is CLEARLY an unjustifiable shooting and even so there is a parade of people who will stand up and make excuses

[mytaylor310]

: for his behavior and they are cowards just like meheserly Any one who has ever held a taser and a fire arm cant tell you there very different in weight and shape and size of the grip there is no mistaking one for the other and they wear them on opposite sides if this particular cop is so stupid he does not not know one from the other then who put that gun and badge in his hand and when did stupidity become a license to kill :Tougher punishment for rogue cops should be the issue here!!

[osallent]

I feel bad for the family of the dead man, but this is NOT murder in the 2nd degree. He will be found guilty of no more than manslaughter and serve 5-10 years with good behavior. Murder requires the INTENT to murder (and this was accidental) and/or a killing caused by a conduct that demonstrates an obvious lack of regard for human life. This case is no more than negligent murder (ie. unintentional manslaughter).

[DjLuxorXradio]

On January 7, a protest march of about 250 people[95] in Oakland became violent. Demonstrators caused over $200,000 in damage while breaking shop and car windows, burning cars, setting trash bins on fire, and throwing bottles at police officers.

Real good guys...just showing more reason the cops need to use force more often. All you know to do is fight and cause trouble...

[DjLuxorXradio]

Grant served two state prison terms for various felonies including a conviction for drug dealing.[32] In 2007 he was sentenced to 16 months at Alameda County Jail in Dublin for fleeing "from a traffic stop while armed with a loaded pistol".[9] During that incident, near his Hayward home, San Leandro police shot him with a Taser to subdue him after he threw the pistol into the air and ran.[9] The arresting officers testified that even after being Tased, Grant resisted arrest.

[DjLuxorXradio]

Search this on Wikipedia, it details the incident. Also...this guy Grant was a 2 time felon...multiple charges...and is a criminal. I can tell you that if I had to deal with people like this daily...I would presume they all had guns and would not hesitate to pull mine. I served 2 tours in Iraq with the US Marines...and although I dont agree with the shooting...stop praising this Grant guy before we have another Rodney King criminal made into a hero.

[briashauntay]

@DjLuxorXradio It should not matter, if he was a 2 time felon. The bottom line is, he was an unarmed man, down on his stomach, not resisting at the time he was shot.. If you think that's ok. You have a problem!! You reading the bad things about Mr. Grant, how about he changed his life around. He was a father, he had a job, he did not have a firearm in his posession at the time of his death and again, HE WAS DOWN ON HIS STOMACH, NOT RESISTING!!! THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS CRIME!!!!

[DjLuxorXradio]

@briashauntay changed his life around? lol...you ghetto people are all the same. He was high...drunk...and had been in a previous altercation that night. We in the "civilized" world...do not call that changing your life around.

[MrMakemusicmike]

@DjLuxorXradio cuz a puzzy

[robinhoodintn1]

he is guilty as hell but it will be brokedown to manslaughter charges its murder if it had been one of us but remember he was a cop and that gives the bastard some leeway in court .

[medini2]

The cop didn't know a taser from a gun. ?

The cop needs to to a prison for the criminally insane for murder.

[killakash510]

dass wat yo bitch ass get

rest in peace brah.ima miss u.we all gon miss u

[souljaaagiirl]

shot a man in the back!

wow i can't even get that :0

[aviomaster]

surlagachette2 -- Exactly , Would you do something knowing you will get fired for it ,,, NO ...

Cops do not care cause they know they have COURT behind them ,,, IF you do not have a video of what happened YOU are screwed ...

[aviomaster]

-- Let me tell you what is going to happen ti this police officer , He is going to get a raise and he will be moved to another police station ...

He is not going anywhere close to JAIL. ARE you crazy ..

[surlagachette2]

Sadly this is true. Cops can obviously murder anyone anywere openly. They don´t even care about witnesses or camera footage. They don´t care because they know they can do anything they want.

[davewc39]

They should hang this cop son of the bitch by the balls and also, they should hang the Bart officials by their balls upside down and let their blood rush through their brains. All of the Bart Officials and the cops should be hung by their balls or drag them on chains on back of the truck. Politician are fucked up, Military is fucked up and Police are fucked they are all fucked up

[EztliAztecatl]

Hahahahaaaa this is a great example of big media trying to protect the police state which is the "strong" arm of the NWO, listen to all the excuses they are throwing to people so the sheeple won't get mad when the court uses those excuses BUT they didn't expect this stupid ass cop to cowardly flee from California hahahahaaa! take that big media I know you hate when those biggots you are trying to get off the hook make you look like what you really are a bunch of trained maked up lying monkeys

[rockin982]

I love when people use words like "sad" and "tragic" to try and nullify any sense of personal responsibility for wrongful actions. "Sad" describes how Grants parents feel now that theur son is gone. "Tragic" describes the fact that trying to get everyone to calm down got Oscar killed. "Evil," "murderous," and "criminal" are all much more appropriate descriptions for Johannes Mehserle's actions toward Grant as clearly visible in the videos.

[ssn708]

@rockin982 It wasn't "trying to get everyone to calm down" that got Grant killed. It was his assault on officers and resisting arrest, and it was a dumbass cop who panicked and grabbed the wrong weapon. Take either side out of the equation, he would be alive. Criminal is the only word you got right in your description, it was criminal negligence. Sad. Tragic.

[divad838]

This is horrible. I hope he gets the chair or gas chamber or whatever the fuck they use in CA.

I'm just glad he is actually being charged. The cops started confiscating peoples phones and cameras so they could protect their own. Sick.

The cops raised and paid his 3 million dollar bail! SICK! The cops pay for his lawyer! SICK!!!

[Darkenveloped]

Grant should have said Don't shoot me I have a 4 year old child, maybe the officer thought he wanted him too shoot him? reverse psychology>??

[hellafuckedup]

he did

[michaelmusica]

criminal negligence causing death, that is what happened.

[Mrsilentdays]

Cnn Is bullshit!!! If a cop cant find a tazer on his own belt he shouldnt be a fucken cop.

This isn't even half of what we don't see.

[six6fifty50]

he WAS handcuffed

RIP OSCAR GRANT

[predestant]

haha I like the guy at 4:11, "ooohh I knocked the trash down"

[WOZERD]

No public unrest, ignorant reporters. A community that perpetuates violence by accepting it as a way of life and blaming everyone else and claiming "they" are the victims is doomed to their own destiny. How about asking why the guy was fighting? Was he defending himself? From whom? One of the players was clearly showing a disreagard for the law and certainly was trying to do harm to another. You want to hang this BART officer til dead. Consider this, would you want to be an Oakland cop?

[pshaw61]

If you can not do the job then why be a cop? This is a case where the cop screwed up and killed a guy because the kid was not doing what he said as to giving a lawful order to give him his hands because at this point it looks like the kid was under arrest . I don't think the cop wanted to kill this kid but he did and now he will pay the price of his job and his life will never be the same.

[WOZERD]

I don't disagree with you-- but how do you know you "can't do the job" until you screw up? A friend of mine was involved in a coke bust. They suspected the dealer had swallowed his bags of coke. They wanted to call the EMT to get it out of him but, while in the front yard, a large crowd gathered and became threatening. The perp denied it, his GF denied it. By the time they got him to the station, he was dead.

[WOZERD]

The dept was sued, he was sued. He lost everything. His house, his retirement, his wife. Now he writes me about swallowing his gun. 27 years on the force-- decorated. The perps mama is driving a new Mercedes.

[WOZERD]

Read the top one last. My point is, at some point, a cop has to wonder-- why waste my time? Let the dude deal, let the fight go on. Let the crime continue, let the murders and theft happen. If I try to do my job, I'm despised. If I make a mistake, I'm screwed. I'm just saying-- if the community really wanted to end this, they could. No one is selling crack in front of my run down lower income house. No one has been slain in my neighborhood for years (if not decades). There's a reason.

[charles0rey]

Your presumptions tell on you old man.

If the kid started a fight he should have been reprimanded accordingly. If a man intentionally murders another without provocation he too should be reprimanded accordingly.

End of discussion.

[Fletch828]

If you look closely, you will see him reach for his belt (presumably for the taser) and then return to struggling with the subject before again going to his belt and drawing the gun. That interruption, while seemingly minor to onlookers could be a key point in how this horrible event played out.

[Fletch828]

1. He was not cuffed.

2. It seems pretty clear that there was an intent to use the taser. He was struggling with the suspect, went to draw his taser, stopped to struggle some more and then returned to the draw but ended up with the wrong weapon.

3. Look for this to be dropped to manslaughter as pushing murder 1 will guarantee a not guilty verdict. There is no indication at all of premeditation.

[GettingtotheTruth2]

Well, I think point #1 is very clear.

On point #2, from the reports I heard, the taser and gun are actually on different sides of the belt--but I do not know this for sure.

Regarding #3, hmm, well, I may agree on the "no indication" of premeditation, I think there will be lots of trouble if it starts getting kicked down too far.

[Fletch828]

#2. The TASER is recommended strongly by the manufacturer to be carried on the opposite side as the gun for this very reason. Even if it was in this case, the officer had been carrying it for a very short time (about a month) and could have become confused.

[CaptAdams35]

Or... if you look at the video prior to the contact this officer had with Grant, you'll see that his handcuffs are located directly behind his duty weapon, with a snap flap enclosure, which is difficult to operate in the kneeling position. Having worked patrol, I've been in the exact same shoes and had I tried searching a subject that resisted on 6 different counts, I too would have been on edge, especially when he jerked his left hand free. I think that's what caused the reaction from both cops

[billybob101013]

@GettingtotheTruth2 what if that was your father are brother are friend the cop is right?

[Juancito413]

@GettingtotheTruth2 It is Bart County Police Protocol to have the Firearm & Tasers Apart from one another to avoid these type of confusions!

[ieshaabbey]

his hands were up like 10 times he was waitin to be cuffed if u watch the video da fuckin goof stood up with gun in hand and shot him in the back

[GettingtotheTruth2]

As stated before, I certainly do not condone the officer's actions and certainly feel that the officer needs to be charged.

But since this channel is focused on putting out the truth...

To be clear, from all accounts that I read, seen and heard, Grant was NOT in handcuffs when he was shot. The officers were trying to get him into handcuffs when the unnecessary shooting occurred.

Doesn't make it better or worse, but let's stick with the facts please.

[Scene68]

This just appauled by all of this, directly towards these ignorant news reporters, how dare they #1 defend the cop stating that he was trying to reach for his taser and what not. Excuse me, but the motherfucker shouldn't have tried to taser someone with handcuffs in the first place, you only use it when someone is resisting. I hope that asshole does go for first degree murder, because he knew what he was doing. Allow him to be someone's butt fuck buddy in prison will be justice in a whole.

[carlos123gallardo]

a wave of violence---what the fuck is he talking about! there was no public unrest--that fucking liar

[mariecaye]

Once hand cuffed

Honestly....Did he need to be tassed?

[lilcoco77007]

Good question!

[DanielKeithMorrison]

once hand cuffed and co-perating do you really need to pull out a weapon and unholster a gun.

[freewire1]

I feel sorry for this poor young man. At the height of his career. To be taken out like this, in such unfortunate circumstances. I don't think he even meant to kill that guy. The greatest thing of all is he great hip hop records that will now be released by the brothers, who will cash in on this and make every bastard penny they can, like the vultures they are, same as that dead cunt.

[smashsamus]

I really feel sorry for people who think like you. your mind and soul is so corrupted. but jut think about it for a sec. and actually USE your brain here... what Cop in his right mind and with all his training holds a taser with two hands?? ..tasers don't have recoil therefor there is no need to hold it with force ..he new it was his gun! it looks to me like the moment he fired and hit Oscar he was shock and taken back(from the look on his face) and he instantly regretted his actions. ..think!

[sguardian870]

free wire u bastard do u even hear ur self are u so stupid it ppl like u who shld never ever be in low enforcement

[deeperthanmost1]

Looks like these guys are trying to make excuses. #1. A tazer and a gun are operated in different ways #2 There are other videos that show a clear close up of the murder. It shows the officer get up and shot the young man in the back. It dissapoints me that CNN would use the less visible video to make thier case for the officer. They should have done thier homework.

[dauoo]

You're 100% correct. If anyone's ever fired a gun they know how hard it recoils. As for the tazer defense, aside from the obvious ? of why do you need a tazer in that situation, but how could you become an officer without know the difference? Lastly, this officer better hope that is dept. is not 1 of the many dept. that require their officers to have their sidearms on safety because all tazer talk is dead if that's the case.

[OmarThePug]

the core problem here is that there must be a procedure to follow when an officer shoots a man dead. We have no police report, camera confiscation, protection by the higher up of Mersehle, no accountability until other agents of government moved. We have a "suspect" who takes off to Nevada after there have been riots. Extradition? R U F-ing kidding me.

The officer should have come out immediately and stated that it was a mistake, but instead we see a complete travesty.

[ambitiouzcutz]

What the fuck,,,,,,, A taser... A taser gun has different area where the trigger is located.... and a police officer issued GLOCK weights a whole more than a taser gun... And oh yeah TASER's are located on the LEFT side of there uniforms...OOPS Yall didn't think I knew that....Well everyone who reads this message will know now...stop trying to make up different shit.. And if the fucks thought it was a taser why didnt he perform CPR, or get on his walk-ie talkie and dispatch 911 quick as possible

[kichichica]

Why would he need to reach for his taser?? The man was down on the ground with another officer kneeling on him??? I hope they put him away for a LONNNNGG time.

[Nettoyeur2000]

Magnifique nouvelle! J'espère juste que cet assassin ne s'en tire pas aussi facilement qu'un dangereux membre de la police de Montréal, Dominic Chartier!

[homogenic97]

Don't you agree? Mehserle has already screwed up so do what will lessen your sentence dumbass. People will be more sympathetic if you issue a statement...ANY statement rather say NOTHING. Remeber how Scott Peterson got the death sentence??? His arrogance.

[homogenic97]

However, he committed the worst mistake.He took the advise of his dumbass lawyer to remain silent which will piss everyone off, including the district attorney who now charged him with murder because Mehserle's such an idiot. Now Mehserhle appears just plain arrogant without giving a statement. I have to say if I was the jury, that alone would make me convict him to a much longer sentence because of his arrogance then if he just admitted guilt and said I'm sorry....CONTINUED......

[homogenic97]

But this is the stupidest thing...I think Mehserle's attorny may be his worst enemy and put him in jail for good. I mean, after this happened, Mehserle should've just come forward immediately, offer his apology to Grant's family and said I was sorry, I screwed up, I'm human and I make mistakes and that I'll do whatever it takes to cooperate with this investigation and give his side of the story of why he did what he did.....CONTINUED.........

[homogenic97]

Ok, it's tragic for both Grant & Mehserle no matter how you look at it. Obviously, I don't believe this officer intended to kill Grant because he was summoned to break this fight up in the first place. The thing is, he was inexperienced, freak-out because of all the morons screaming in the back, probably stressed out because of the coming birth of child, confused, scared, probably forgot he had handcuffed him and drew his weapon.....CONTINUED..........

[RATBOY808]

touche mi amie...there was no intent to kill! Going to be a tough case for both sides though; prosecution and defense. People in Oakland are just bitter and mad at the police. Oakland Police has a very young and inexperience police force. Why do you think Mehserle was place in a BART detail. Because the experience cops patrol the bad neighborhoods.

[Olatunje]

Can someone explain why Grant was even pulled from the wall. Also, the men next to him were not handcuffed.

[GettingtotheTruth2]

I believe the officer should be charged fully for the murder and there is obviously issues, major issues with excessive force in this incident and other places.

However, since this channel is set forth to make sure the truth is out there...

To be clear, from all accounts that I read, seen and heard, Grant was not in handcuffs. The officers were trying to get him into handcuffs when the unnecessary shooting occurred.

Doesn't make it better or worse, but let's stick with facts please.

[DimeCG]

Fuck that..the entire media is on the cops side. Im glad he got arrested but i wouldnt be surpriced if he gets released from this charge because now they are making up all this lies about having the tazer for only two weeks.

[jay2thaudy]

Who's this dickhead trying to defend this phychopath?!

[jcarpent]

OMG. The shooting is brutla, but what makes me sick to my stomach is that the media is trying to rationalize the murderer's actions.

[anonprophetorg]

the more i watch the evidence the more i see a psycopathic bully on a petty power trip.

he had no excuse to use the tazer let alone the firearm.

he was going to abuse his position and torture Mr Grant with his tazer, but that backfired at obvious cost to Mr Grants life

justice must be seen to be done, he should get the full penalty the law allows for

[angelinaramon]

I agree. Even if he was going for his tazer it was still uncalled for.

[propheticlivity]

And it is NOT OK that the police now, out of STANDARD PROCEDURE, taze people "for compliance", as they discuss in the final seconds of this video.

We the People do not stand for this fucking abuse of power bullshit that has become commonplace in our society.

[propheticlivity]

It does not matter whether he thought it was a taser or not. If it had been a taser, he would still be guilty of second-degree murder.

You don't pull out a DEADLY WEAPON, which a taser absolutely is, point it into the back of an unarmed and restrained individual, and fire. Accident or not, Johannes Mehserle's wrongful actions led to the death of Oscar Grant, and he must be held accountable.

PS - People aren't gonna fall for the "people want murder-1" bullshit Rick Sanchez spews in this video.

[automaticAEV]

Police violence has been out of control for decades.