OWS Changes Tone, Gestapo Takes Names, Manufacturing Consent to the Police State

[francises12]

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[KnowledgeDriven]

1:05 'there's alot of common ground'

i think this guy is definitely on the path to awakening from the divide and conquer rhetoric. he's well-versed in the dividing terminology, yet OWS and other idea-mashup opportunities will certainly help the individual's learning of the contrived (esoteric) World around them.

thx, warren! very interesting vid!

[tjhillgardner]

I disagree that obtaining a non-socialist OWS agenda is a major change. The folks carrying "End the Fed" and Ron Paul signs have been in Zuccotti Park since the very first week. It is a popular MSM slam against OWS that its all a bunch of socialists down there, but its just not the case. But the NYCGA is a democratic institution and the presence of both socialists and Paul supporters has always guaranteed that an agenda capable of obtaining broad-based support will come out of it.

[wepollock]

@tjhillgardner I am talking based on my own observations over time.

[mrzack888]

Beard = terrorism in the eyes of NY cops.

[carefulcarpenter]

HOME RUN~!! Nice one, killer Carew~!

[wepollock]

@watchersx not taped was an exchange with him that "not believing in a divide and conquer ideology" allowed me to see factual causes of the concerns as well as solution sets.

[93or97]

I'm retired first responder. The fed feeds every major city with untold billions $ for overtime training re. civil disturbance. As Warren warns, they are prepared to the X degree for any/every attack.

One week I made a few thousand in forced OT for such a class. The fed outright owns (purchased/bribed) mayors and governors with these funds, your taxes. The fed also owns most first responder (FD, PD) employees with these funds. Every employee in major cities knows this.

[robran53]

@93or97 and that money of ours contributes to our police state and our enslavement - that money without which we wouldnt be facing this fascist monstrosity called the federal govt.

[93or97]

Warren, I finally got a hint of the value in Fuller's Model. I vow to start the book as soon as I finish my current 1150 page tome (on page 1k now).

The most critical thing IMO is clawing against western churchianity's "futurist" theology: the false belief that the Bible teaches the end of the world. This teaching fosters nuclear holocaust and is 180-degrees opposite correct expectation of man's continued existence on earth.

[kileer7]

3:58 motherfucker and his nonchalant attitude.

[MattyS54]

history has now shown that the constitution isn't comprehensive enough to ensure the best solutions for americans in this day and age. sure the moral code can form a basis for the structure of a non corrupt government, but that alone is too easy to reinterpret and ignore if selected interests seek to profit.

i don't think warren's outlook is 'socialistic' in the usual sense of the word, only as far as the ideal, most efficient system by its very nature involves more equality on a global scale.

[MattyS54]

wow @ the comment thread on this one, demonstrates why ideological beliefs need to be pushed aside for concensus on productive reform to ever be reached.

[wepollock]

@MattyS54 i see "ideology" as a barrier to change. its a large part of the divide and conquer approach. many new viewers (and the folks at OWS) did not understand this. I looked to explain how they have (and are being played). The solutions will be based on fact not ideology.

[99tdaug]

Warren, are you changing your tune on civil unrest in the US?

[wepollock]

@99tdaug I am monitoring the situation. Is civil unrest going to occur in advance of collapse or before it? I will report any change.

[99tdaug]

@wepollock My best guess is that TPTB steer us into fighting each other, if people get pissed or war. I'm monitoring it too.

[x8z3]

One VERY IMPORTANT point that failed to be raised as regards America's economic growth in the immediate aftermath of the post-WW2 period is that it was, at that time, the new EMPIRE, having picked up the pieces of the decimated European empires which had dominated the world for centuries, in particular, that of the British Empire.

When two dogs fight over a bone it's always a third dog that gets it.

America was that the third dog.

[wepollock]

@x8z3 good point.

[logick2]

@407buddy - ....if only by relinquishing its functions to predatory Fascist Corporatism.

[mcgrawtim123]

Entitled? Dude, we stole California fair and square using force and lawcap and fincap.

[wilatemodel]

Did i hear you right Warren?..@ 3:16 you said "a higher quality of life than your entitled to"....please explain...Thats almost socialist talk there,...

[wepollock]

@wilatemodel yes "you live in a socialist system" because the US military subsidizes your access to life support, (thereby creating reserve currency) you would have a MUCH LOWER standard of living. We are more or less commissars who think we are entitled by birth to the current standard of livings.

[wilatemodel]

@wepollock so,..i guess im confused,..you want Americans to have a LOWER standard of living?

[DavidAKZ]

@wilatemodel it's just a statement of fact

[wepollock]

@DavidAKZ yes its a statement of fact. Actually your "president" said expect to see a lower standard of living. I find that position unbelievable as a leader should work to build wealth. However, wealth needs to be newly defined! The new idea of wealth is not in the mainstream lexicon.

[TheDaytonDevil]

Beware the peasant! Necesity is a mother! UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL!

[logick2]

Change the Constitution? Beware - that is EXACTLY what the subversives are attempting to do. We need to ENFORCE it, not water it down.  What stupid ass would want to surrender those rights to a body politic that only claims to be working in your interests. Words are cheap. Many people died to give you those rights which have been slowly eaten away at by internal and external enemies of liberty. Freedom is what it is all about. Wise up!

[wepollock]

@logick2 denial - to defend something that is long dead --- There is no liberty in our current society, there is no right to privacy, there is no right to justice (its selective to corporate interests, there is a "phony" electoral process, and there is divide and conquer propaganda. Thinking the constitution remains intact plays into the divide and conquer rhetoric. Paper is paper.

[logick2]

@wepollock - The Constitution is not just "a piece of paper" - it is the culmination of centuries of struggle against oppressive religions, monarchs and other tyrants. It is NOT dead, nor are its ideals. Only fools would surrender their liberty, freedom and lives to liars. Be assured that the the very first thing any ''progressive'' tyranny would do is to disarm the citizens to prevent revolt or any defense against total enslavement by their new masters! It is clear who the enemy is.

[wepollock]

@logick2 What about the current oppression based on the divide and conquer corruption of the Democratic and Republican Parties combined with corporate media? How do you explain the fact we prosecute wars in every country? How do you explain a huge military as a percentage of GDP? How do you explain a Supreme Court that sides with Corporations at every turn? How do you explain no right to privacy? How do you explain the inability to take pictures in NY without risk of arrest?

[wepollock]

@wepollock The jingoism of American exceptionalism does not apply today. American exceptionalism refers to the theory that the United States is qualitatively different from other countries. Alexis de Tocqueville, the first writer to describe the United States as "exceptional" in 1831 and 1840

[logick2]

@wepollock - It is easily explained when one understands the concealed, but obvious, subversive agenda of the NWO elitists - the destruction of individual and national sovereignty, the co-ordinated repression of liberty and freedom, the disarmament of all free men, and the global centralization of economic and military power. All the very things that our forefathers fought against, but which the current cowardly, dumbed-down, propagandized generation fails to see.

[wepollock]

@logick2 You have been told NWO but that has been in place since the 1600's and is the OWO.. you need to see a set of the videos produced here to get an idea of history and fact.

[logick2]

@wepollock - I understand that the NWO is just the modern version of the OWO. They have been at it a long time. I will view the videos. Have you ever read "The Occult Technology of Power?" Interesting read.

[chop98]

@logick2 You said it right, logick. The CONstitution isn't just a piece of paper. It's a slavery document. Ask Patrick Henry. The CONstitution is a contract drawn up by British lawyers of the time and approved by the King. Where do you think all the land taxes go? Have a look at my one minute video on my page about immigration. It'll show you what that slavery document really means. This contract was written by wealthy elitist for those elite to maintain power. Who gives you rights? God or gov?

[intlkeyboards]

@logick2 Well said. Does this guy really think he will have more rights after Michael Moore, Rachael Maddox, or whatever stooges they pick to write a new constitution? The people who rule this world want to loot this country to the extant they have Greece, or even Libya, and the Constitution is an obstacle. They would love to replace it with something written by misguided ideologues and supported by dupes chanting simplistic slogans.

[KeepItSimplePC]

they need more footage of police like the one in this video so that people kn

ow that not all of them are bad.

[p3u3g3]

taru illegal hanshu act, corporate break ups has been done before with phone monopoly MaBell, seperation of investment and savings banks was part of the "new deal" under FDR admin. and ended by Reagan. And while we are at it "term limits" mayor of nyc it was only passed twice by voters to be overturned by city hall

[bar50]

Oh, and I forgot to mention that I felt very safe here in Vermont watching that cop. If he was around every day protecting me I might even stop my conceal carrying!

[bar50]

Great vid. The cop @ 5:30 should be the poster cop and trainer for all law enforcement in how to deal with the non violent public.

[GoatRoper911]

That black cop was cool. Sidewalk cleared and no feelings hurt.

[intlkeyboards]

One of the most effective tools in the world in combating tyranny and corporatism is the U.S. Constitution. The reason why we have so many of these problems is it hasn't been utilized. Anyone advocating scrapping this is either a dupe or a plant.

[SpraYeRS77]

The speaker is distorted. He sounds like he is talking about technocracy.

[intlkeyboards]

The system was designed to fail by the people who created the system, They have a more totalitarian system they want to impose.

[TheUrbanDharma]

first video ive seen of yours and im really impressed. Good stuff!

[ethankegley]

great video, thanks so much

[nikto2000]

@26libertarian I am not disagreeing with you...but a dog on a chain that can bark all he wants is not free. Free speech is not freedom. If they allow to say anything you want, but throw you in jail for drinking raw milk, running a lemonade stand, exercising your right for petition and redress...etc etc etc. I would rather be free...than have free speech but live in a police state.

[lizadfuel]

I love listening to your point of view and how you explain the causes of our current crisis.

[nikto2000]

Can we drop the "land of the free" bullstuff?..............we used to be the most free...but that was a long time ago. There are many many things in America that are illegal...that are legal in other countries. America incarcerates more than in nation on earth. The phones are bugged, the e-mails read....and regulations are strangling Americans and American industry. The police state is growing exponentially. Saying you are "free" doesnt make it so.

[wepollock]

@26libertarian the closest analogy today is Singapore, and to a certain extent its a technical problem. Presently government slices the pie smaller and smaller.. the idea is to "create more" which can be done by use and design efficiency.

[ycmgh]

wow! the first guy is articulate to the max! good job.

[MUSTBUYRIGHT]

these same n.y. cops just got arrested running guns into n.j.!

[alto100]

Great! Glad to hear libertarians are on the block too. Just End The Fed you ninnies. What's so difficult about that? The commies want fiat currency so they can suck on the trough while the slaves pay taxes. You are all wasting your time!

[robran53]

Hey Warren "No reason to be defensive" said the man with the drug-sniffing attack dog, the walkie-talkie and the gun.

[wepollock]

@robran53 violating my constitutional rights. NOW you have to defend the constitution a million times over. that is why its a "dead" document and needs to be rewritten. Its been diluted too far to be useful with nobody able to defend it. The ACLU is overwhelmed

[1adadada]

@robran53 lol !!

[RoberTastic]

that dude at 1:11 talking about our past economic performance.. get real man, those days are gone gone gone, and will never return

[dablommer2010]

To the guy who said there was no reason to be defensive when he asked about the filming...wake the hell up.

[demented669]

end the fraud =  the fractional reserve banking system

[SonofCastille]

Warren, If I had a time machine, I would send you back in time to the Continental Congress!

[chop98]

At 3:10 the man says, "Do the corporations change or does the government change?". That says it all. America doesn't realize it IS a corporation since the start. I have a scanned copy of a 1799 case which calls the USA a corporation. Our Federal Government is nothing more than a contract corporation. Without cutting ties completely from England and the City of London, there will be no real change. Good luck wrestling the cash cow from the City of London. There would be total devastation.

[wepollock]

@chop98 that is a really good point.

[JFKlone]

@chop98 The man asking the question of whether to change the corporation or the government is himself an agent of chaos using the Hegelian dialectic to divert the issue. The last thing he would want you to know and disseminate is the very fact that the people living in North America (and the whole "new world order" over for that matter) are in actuality GOVERNED BY CORPORATIONS. And they're trying to corral everyone into DEMANDING Freemason Ron Paul become President....of the Corp, of course.

[logick2]

@chop98 - Washington D.C. was created as a sovereign corporate entity by the Act of 1871. It is one of the 3 sovereign city states that exist - The City of London (the financial center), Vatican City (the religious power), and Washington D.C., or Columbia (the military power).

[chop98]

@logick2 I thought this 1871 date to be significant at one time as well. Turns out it goes all the way back to the first feet hitting the ground and the King of England giving grants to make the ventures happen. 1871 was just another nail in the coffin. USA has been corporate since it's inception. Government, republic, state, county, city, etc. They're all just little umbrella corporations. They've let us "think" we're free for far too long now. That's their problem.

[freddietz96]

Buckminster Fuller Comprehensivism. It’s interesting; in the 8 strategies of such taught at MIT back in the 1950’s, the first deals w/ universal definitions meant to overcome conflicting diktats, meant to prevent corruption w/in the rationale for the system & prevent it from being subverted due to conflicting theories. “How cost of living is interpreted & how often”. It should be considered, but realistically: there is no economic science that allows a Rockefeller lifestyle for 300mil citizens.

[TTomni]

I'd like to ask you guys why do you belittle, mock, disagree, disregard etc. the zeitgeist movement and/or the venus project. I personally support them and would like to have some feedback from clear thinking people. Please be specific if you are to answer my request. Thanks in advance :).

[Richtar244]

What are you sick fuck know about Gestapo you degenerated sack of shit. You just know gestapo from the sick fucking jew rats movies. German Gestapo was the good guys . The bad guys was the american army of idiots who kill they white brothers to save the jewish communism and jew rats banking mafia who rules the United States of Antichrist for last 100 years.

[TTomni]

@Richtar244 :D :D :D. Nice joke.

[gibbo675]

Your ideas fries that poor chaps head especially when you told him that you not a libertaria but followed comprehensive anticipatory design science, his argument deflated faster than the economy!

[TonyUnplugged]

In Afghanistan, our troops set up check points to take pictures of everyone's face and scan any identifcation cards. They built a database of everyone that they came in contact with. I guess each United State in America already has that info based on our driver's license pictures.

[1betrman]

Pollock did you say "take down the Constitution"and "rewrite the Constitution"?

[slobomotion]

A good point brought up here about the destruction of WWII and basically, the US profited and did a lot of environmental damage. The middle class was manufacturing toxic stuff. Sorry to sound like such a hippie but I'm old enough to be one, almost. Americans felt entitled and took the lion's share of the planet's resources. I know. I was one of them, born in '57. Very good video. Uprated.

[mlong5151]

we are doomed ,prepare for war

[cpswyl2]

Fascinating video Warren. Besides the solutions-vids, these are the best, getting out and about.

[Will224000]

1. End the FED - take back our money from the private Corporation and create our own Treasury Notes, providing 0% interest loans to the Cities, States, Small Businesses, and Students to get our Economy back on it's feet.

2. End the era of PAC influence in Washington, eliminating them entirely.

3. De- Personhood Corporations. They are not people and should not be allowed these privileges .

[Will224000]

4. Eliminate Fractional Reserve Banking - If a bank does not have the money they will not be allowed to loan it.

5. Re-install Glass- Steagall - separating the function of Savings Banks from Investment Banking.

6. Major Wall Street investment reform that outlaws Derivitives, Short Selling, Hedge Fund, and Algorithmic Trading.

7. Redefine Federal limits back to the Constitution, giving most of it's present powers back to the States, back to pre- Feb. 17, 1871.

[wepollock]

@Will224000 good ideas, once we pull back the military how do we get our energy?

[mapleleafs182]

@wepollock I think the transportation system needs to be rethought. Cars and planes aren't very efficient. Maybe allowing oil prices to skyrocket will make people realize that we need to end our dependency on fossil fuels and try something different.

I got a question, what are your thoughts on the Venus Project?

[freddietz96]

@wepollock People need to start downloading Stan Meyer HHO generator plans, testing their own water fuel cell engines, modifying them, then freely exchanging/aggregating the results on the internet. The gov’t, energy companies & automakers can’t be expected to do this; they’re all empire-driven, and oil is an empire-centric energy supply. Should also be attention given to extracting nat. gas w/o hostile effects to surrounding environment, as well as research into dense plasma fusion generators.

[dpla5762]

@Will224000 I agree with all but the short selling. It is the same thing as buying a stock but in reverse. You can not outlaw it without outlawing loans completely.

[DavidAKZ]

@dpla5762 and naked short selling ?

[dpla5762]

@DavidAKZ Now that's a different ball game.

[DavidAKZ]

@dpla5762 watch?v=gpWzOjB8qtU

[ILLct]

I talked to that exact same guy in the first couple minutes of your video about 3 weeks ago. He came down from the building across the street because he was humored by one of the signs near me. The sign said something about Jesus, and he asked the man "Did you know Jesus was the world's greatest socialist?" I interjected, "but also happened to be viewed as the greatest threat to the Roman Empire during his time." Funny, it was not a religious conversation at all.

[wepollock]

@ILLct In a small set there will be repetition. Please see the MSNBC video in the link.. you will see some "core" young folks.

[wepollock]

@wepollock he was in the meet and greet area..

[sotthapana]

I voted NDP (socialist) in Canada, and I've supported Ron Paul's campaigns for 2008 and 2012... it's not about Left vs Right, you tards!

Ron Paul is the Peace candidate in 2012

Ron Paul is the Economy candidate in 2012

Ron Paul is the Liberty candidate in 2012

[TacticalCitySlicker]

Warren your starting to sound like a type of zeitgeist/resource based economy guy... Tell me I'm wrong please.

[wepollock]

@TacticalCitySlicker The best way to understand where I am coming from is The Critical Path by Buckminster Fuller. MY CNBC speech (link on this video) at OWS covers a great deal of ground. I don't really look at Zeitgeist for more than entertainment.

[wepollock]

@wepollock Beyond that I try to speak to Fact.. Where things are, who has them, how much do we really need, what do we consider wealth. Its what is necessary to solve problems.

[jloppy]

@wepollock Check out Electoral Reform 2012

[TacticalCitySlicker]

@wepollock That was great speech Warren, definitely to many big words for the hope and change crowd out there, but two years ago I would have had a blank stare as well. The tragedy in the Greek sense about democracy is that the leaders always have to appeal to the lowest common denominator in that society which will in turn handicap that movement. I know your not a fan of politicians but take Paul for example in every speech he gives he's got to dumb down his message to fit the crowd.

[CanNotType]

GJ Warren

[slhines7]

I personally think that one of the main contributing factors that brought us to this point was the outsourcing of jobs to slave labor paying countries, such as China.

[DavidAKZ]

@slhines7 yes and that's how jobs will return to the US - @ 37c an hour.

[slhines7]

@DavidAKZ Well, I personally don't think that the outsourced and so called missing jobs will come back, let alone pay .37 cents per hour, especailly since we have crappy minimum wage laws and the FED printing our currency into oblivioun. Who knows, maybe the USD will ultimataley end up having the same fate as Zimbabwe, Argentina, Spain, Germany, etc's fiat dollar system.

[mah29732]

Warren,

What's the point with debating with a Ron Paul person or an O-bot who happens to be involved there? Are they not the obvious no different from a mainstream Republican or Democrat bot? I am doubtful they'd listen to you.

[wepollock]

@mah29732 there were lots of young folks who know something is wrong, they are thinking, and they are mostly a "empty sponge." The fellow looked to "frame" me into an ideology and I would not buy the bait. If your economic structure is broken and someone tells you 9-9-9 or hope and change will fix it, you better run.

[nwopuppet]

Buckminster Fuller invented the Geodesic dome. I'm looking at "Spaceship Earth". I remember a video recommending a book to learn more about Fuller, but i'm not able to recall it.

[wepollock]

@nwopuppet A simple book to read is Bucky Works by J Baldwin. A hard book to read (which I consider a core resource- its hard because he has his own hyphenated language). Grunch - Which is easy to read online and is free. SYNERGETICS - which is very very very hard to read but is also free on the internet. (its a list of core ideas)

[wepollock]

@wepollock The hard book to read is the Critical Path.

[riethc]

I'm curious why you believe resources are fixed, Warren? Don't you believe that humanity can develop new technologies that use new resources?

[wepollock]

@riethc yes.. presently we are not using resources very efficiently; we have convinced ourselves that depletion backed up by the gun is the solution (and the glue holding us together) By redefining wealth from money to time and life support, and through design-efficiency (ephemeralization - which we see all the time) we can provide more life support with less depletion. We can create more healthcare.. We can create more effective education. We can stop some of our paper pushing.

[a2zhandi]

@riethc The only way that will happen without greed & control interfering is to join The Free World Charter .org

Then we can develop clean energy without straps from gov. and energy tycoons.We can evolve faster than ever by making everything free. The benefits are endless. There are enough earth resources to go around for EVERYBODY. Not just a select silver spoon fed elites.

[riethc]

@a2zhandi This is a branch of Zeitgeist?

[a2zhandi]

@riethc Similar I think. But not Zeitgeist.

[riethc]

@a2zhandi Jacque Fresco and Peter Joseph wrote the charter:

w w w .freeworldcharter. org/?a=more

This is Zeitgeist.

[NWOIS666]

revolving barricade ? I'm sure taxpayers paid for this too

[kileer7]

You're way too intelligent for this nation Warren.

[DavidAKZ]

@kileer7 He's too intelligent in any case, but I bet he gets the girls ;-)

[wepollock]

@DavidAKZ I cannot speak to that.. (lol)

[73cupcake]

@DavidAKZ Poor Warren....his selection is probably limited to the singles pool at Mensa...where else could he possibly hope to find someone on his level......and instead of bringing her roses on the first date, he hands her a nicely wrapped copy of The Critical Path. Nothing says romance like Bucky! ;)

[cyaard]

"We're just having a conversation, there's no reason to be defensive" . Fucking pigs.

[wepollock]

@cyaard he was a "rent a pig" So far I have been confronted 1) At the Rosa Parks transport center, 2) at the freedom tower 3) at my local park, 4 and today.

[DavidAKZ]

Thanks Warren - well argued. At least the cop with the hat at the end was using a sense of humor in a potentially difficult situation. This one needs to be fought with intelligence and appeal. So many people still unconscious .

[wepollock]

@DavidAKZ We were not on a "street" where his statements would make sense. We were in a park! with no through traffic. Most people wanted to see the Wall Street Bull but because of the barricades they had to stand in the street which was a hazard.

[moonshadow93924]

Warren, there is no reason to be defensive to an ass.

[wepollock]

@moonshadow93924 just spread the video far and wide if you would. lets get more people thinking. (I did not include some content which talked about propaganda) and how frozen people are into sound-bites, and media spin.

[cmsingerbill]

People are so tired of the corruption !!!!!!!

[kileer7]

Good job. You're doing a thankless service.

[petsatcom]

A=L+C in traditional accounting. What does the Buckminster Fuller Accounting look like?

Great content in this video. Great dialogue, Keep up the good work

[1x93cm]

your level of thought and Fullers' is so beyond the base level of consciousness but there are a few seeds out there

[wepollock]

@1x93cm I was standing on a box today. I gave three speeches, of which one was gathering a large crowd amazing at more than a sound bite.

[moonshadow93924]

@wepollock Keep doing that!

[1x93cm]

@wepollock i'd hate to say it- but in these times, people like you that can articulate your thoughts with such efficiency that even a person like myself can understand, are desperately needed. I remember reading something awhile ago that seemed that in all great times of change, the intelligensia was always cut down first- not so much because of thier oratorical prowess but because they understood a deeper picture of reality. Unfortunately as you enlighten folks you make yourself a target- and i

[DavidAKZ]

@1x93cm that's the skill I think - not to try and wake people up. They have to come to their own level of awareness which is hard enough to deal with when they do.

[DavidAKZ]

@1x93cm +1

[petsatcom]

A=L+C in traditional accounting. What does the Buckminster Fuller Accounting look like?

[wepollock]

@petsatcom America is not producing any physical life protection, life support, or development accommodation, which physical life support alone constitutes real wealth. He talks about it in his book "Critical Path."

[YouSayYouWantA]

That's a pretty fancy gate. Thanks for getting down there Warren.

[wepollock]

@YouSayYouWantA not enough people there.. based on the overwhelming police presence, overwhelming technology, tone, and clamp down, I have to say the police state is so entrenched it will be very difficult to gather momentum.