can someone explain atheism to me, not what it is, but why people follw it. I'm not a christian, but face it, dying and nothing happening, kinda a bad way of seeing life, if it was true, everyone would more or less kill themselves, what's the point of life. I mean if your life doesn't mean anything, why give a hell about crime, so what he killed a guy, that man would have died at some point. Just thinking that doesn't feel right, any atheist want to shed some light on this?
@truelyunforgivable Atheists still value life. We respect others because we want others to treat us with the same respect. If anything we value life more because we believe our time on this earth is limited so we have to make the best out of it.
The point of living life for an Atheist is that once it's over, it's over. There isn't a heaven to go to, so you had better make the best out of the life you're given. Also, lack of religion does not mean lack of morals. I refrain from doing bad things because I know that they're wrong and I understand there are consequences, not because a holy book or god told me it was wrong. Murder and suicide are more heinous a crime when you believe there isn't an afterlife.
@dbzman1985 What are you talking about he lied to build discrimination towards non-christians? This video didn't even point out anything from Ray or Kirk's mouth. It was just pictures and someone giving their opinion. If he was discriminating towards non-christians then he wouldn't be out trying to preach the gospel and telling people to repent.
If you are quoting Hitler to prove religion is bad then you are spot on. Religion isn't True Christianity.
"The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death, When understanding of the universe has become widespread, Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity, Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity, And that's why someday its structure will collapse, the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little, Christianity the liar, We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State." ~ Hitler
The above quote is from Hitler in cased you missed the quotation marks. Sorry but Hitler was not a Christian. Please stop using the same old argument of Hitler was a Christian so Christianity isn't good. You also might want to read mein kampf sometime and see how he used terms in his speeches that would appeal to the masses. It's called propaganda.
Religion doesn't save anyone from their sins, Christ does. Hence Christianity is not a religion.
Hitler WAS a Christian. I'm sorry saying he wasn't doesn't make it the truth. i know you don't like the idea but just because truth threatens your worldview doesn't me we should change it for you.
As far as Christianity as a religion, if you believe that Jesus is a deity and not just a wise man, then yes i am sorry it does fall under the category of a religion.
BTW the whole sin concept is driven by a religious belief of the fall of man.
Did you not read the quote. I'm not simply saying that he wasn't a christian...HE IS HIMSELF!
"Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease." ~ Adolf Hitler himself!
The National Government will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built up. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality and the family as the basis of national life.
The quotes I am using are dated 12/14/1941 & 10/19/1941. Which if I'm not mistaken is during the 2nd World War. Your quote is exactly what was described in Mein Kampf as propaganda. He used Christian terms to win the masses. The truth doesn't threaten my worldview it shapes it.
When I say Christianity isn't religion I am saying it isn't what is regarded as religion these days. There is a lot of crap being sold as Christian religion and it isn't so.
@naj1978 "God the Almighty has made our nation. By defending its existence we are defending His work...."-Adolf Hitler in a radio address, 30 Jan. 1945
@Drgamedood I guess you would win other than the fact that Hitler wasn't a Christian. Like I said he was a big fan of propaganda. Your thinking can't reconcile all of the contradicting quotes of Hitler so you pick one and ignore the rest. I'm so proud that we have become masters of google these days to substitute for real studying.
@naj1978 All of hitler's alleged anti christian statements come from the table talk. Hitler's table talk is considered unreliable by historians because the anti-christian statements don't appear in the original german text. They were made up by french translator François Genoud. The french translations are what english translations rely upon. Furthermore, the talk was heavily edited by martin bormann, a very anti religious atheist.
@Drgamedood Okay I'll let you have that some historians find certain quotes unreliable so that they can reconcile obvious contradictions in Hitlers writings. Let's look at the big picture though, despite quotes about God's providence and condemning atheism his actions speak otherwise. If you are a Christian you will bear fruit (John 15:8). In other words Hitler may have talked the talk but didn't walk the walk. To my knowledge there was no evidence of repentance in his life. Repentance is key.
@naj1978 You're saying he wasn't a "true" christian. This is a "no true scotsman" fallacy. If you're going to say he wasn't christian merely because he did bad things, then lots of christians throughout history wouldn't be christians. The crusaders, inquisitors, etc were all christians. No one seriously argues otherwise on the basis that they "did a few bad things".
@Drgamedood I'm not saying that he wasn't a Christian because he did bad things because I consider myself a Christian but that doesn't change the fact that I'm a sinner. I have sins of commission as well as sins of omission. James 2:14-26 explains my point which is basically faith without works is a dead faith or an empty profession of faith. Even demons believe in God (verse 19) but they will not be in heaven. He may have had a deep faith in God but apart from Christ it is a false faith.
I mean if you don' t like the idea of God which that's all it is, you hate God. The very reason that atheists exist is proof of God. Then come up with a better theory that says our cousins are chimps.
Atheists give themselves a way out of everything so that they don't have to answer to anybody or debate anyone. Then the rest of their time is spent bashing christians and being profane on their blogs and in interviews. And they say christianity is bad for the world. LOL!!
It isn't like we dislike the idea of a a god" personal or otherwise. (which i should point out i do dislike the idea of anyone, god or otherwise looking in on me to see what am doing 24 hrs a day. so that makes me an anti-theist) We, as atheists, reject the concept of a god of any kind as a merit-less claim with no basis in reality. I mean you as Christians do the same thing with ever other religion, we just go one religion further.
Wow this just in it takes money to run a ministry. Christians are still under the same economic rules as everyone else.
I don't understand why people are trying to bash WOTM when they are preaching the Gospel of Christ. How about bash people like Joel Osteen, TD Jakes, Kenneth Copeland, etc.? Oh yeah I know why because those guys aren't preaching the Gospel and aren't worried about telling people the truth.
There are plenty. This is a business and he makes money selling lines of BS to the 'washed' Christian masses in the form of books and other various forms of media. Not to mention, he threatens for donations from those scared of death.
he don't push his books on people out of 100 clips you might find one of him talking about his books and that is not the same. Go see him live at hunting beach he gives money away. The first time I seen him he gave me a free book and he placed $20 in side with out me knowing. I found it the next day
How honest can a person who denies evolution and espouses the lie of Creationism really be?
Furthermore, Jews and Eastern Faiths don't proselytize and their numbers are in the hundreds of millions. Neither do Wiccans and their religion is the fastest growing faith in America at a time when Christianity of all faiths are in decline and the number of non-theists have doubled in the last 15 years (Source: ARIS survey 2008)
If I was a millionare I would do the same I know Ray I been inside his ministry I seen his house and car I know where he eats and how he dresses and he is not after your money. I never seen any one hand out money like him. He walks up to strangers and gives them money with out even telling them who he is. On nov 19 he handed out over a two hundred dollar just in about 2 hours and any one who knows him will tell you this is a every day thing. So this video is out of line and a flat out lie.
Go get a job of your own and don't worry if this hard working man get's paid for his work. TV & Radio Preachers can not be compered to Ray. you know it I know it and God knows it. Your lies don't stand a chance me and Ray are good friends
B. I am only reposting this video, i did not create it.
C. The video speaks for itself, the man is a salesman. Pure and simple. I am sorry that doesn't make you feel all warm and fuzzy. Really, i'll shed a single tear for you.
Interesting. Personally, I don't think that they're in it for money and propaganda. Their objective is more based on religious dillusion and zealotry which amounts to nothing but stupidity and the typical steriotypical religious examples which are a major disservice to the religious people who are nice and decent. Great video.
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svchok 11 months ago
Awesome video is awesome
ReadmanJ 11 months ago
can someone explain atheism to me, not what it is, but why people follw it. I'm not a christian, but face it, dying and nothing happening, kinda a bad way of seeing life, if it was true, everyone would more or less kill themselves, what's the point of life. I mean if your life doesn't mean anything, why give a hell about crime, so what he killed a guy, that man would have died at some point. Just thinking that doesn't feel right, any atheist want to shed some light on this?
truelyunforgivable 1 year ago
@truelyunforgivable
Atheism is not a belief system. It is a rejection of groundless claims of deities.
OxbowisaMstie 1 year ago
@truelyunforgivable Atheists still value life. We respect others because we want others to treat us with the same respect. If anything we value life more because we believe our time on this earth is limited so we have to make the best out of it.
patrickbateman2012 1 year ago
@truelyunforgivable
The point of living life for an Atheist is that once it's over, it's over. There isn't a heaven to go to, so you had better make the best out of the life you're given. Also, lack of religion does not mean lack of morals. I refrain from doing bad things because I know that they're wrong and I understand there are consequences, not because a holy book or god told me it was wrong. Murder and suicide are more heinous a crime when you believe there isn't an afterlife.
kittyqueenofdoom 8 months ago
I love you so much for posting this video I haven't laughed so hard in weeks THANK YOU!
ronaldmonster 2 years ago
@dbzman1985 What are you talking about he lied to build discrimination towards non-christians? This video didn't even point out anything from Ray or Kirk's mouth. It was just pictures and someone giving their opinion. If he was discriminating towards non-christians then he wouldn't be out trying to preach the gospel and telling people to repent.
If you are quoting Hitler to prove religion is bad then you are spot on. Religion isn't True Christianity.
naj1978 2 years ago
@naj1978
I am a subscribing member of Todd Friel's Wretched Radio. Trust me when i say the man is far beyond sane.
Oh and please don't try that "True Christianity" BS. Christianity is a religion. Saying something isn't something does not mean a damn thing.
Hitler was a Christian, historical fact. You don't like it, look to you're own house.
OxbowisaMstie 2 years ago
"The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death, When understanding of the universe has become widespread, Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity, Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity, And that's why someday its structure will collapse, the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little, Christianity the liar, We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State." ~ Hitler
naj1978 2 years ago
The above quote is from Hitler in cased you missed the quotation marks. Sorry but Hitler was not a Christian. Please stop using the same old argument of Hitler was a Christian so Christianity isn't good. You also might want to read mein kampf sometime and see how he used terms in his speeches that would appeal to the masses. It's called propaganda.
Religion doesn't save anyone from their sins, Christ does. Hence Christianity is not a religion.
naj1978 2 years ago
@naj1978
Hitler WAS a Christian. I'm sorry saying he wasn't doesn't make it the truth. i know you don't like the idea but just because truth threatens your worldview doesn't me we should change it for you.
As far as Christianity as a religion, if you believe that Jesus is a deity and not just a wise man, then yes i am sorry it does fall under the category of a religion.
BTW the whole sin concept is driven by a religious belief of the fall of man.
OxbowisaMstie 2 years ago
Did you not read the quote. I'm not simply saying that he wasn't a christian...HE IS HIMSELF!
"Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease." ~ Adolf Hitler himself!
naj1978 2 years ago
The National Government will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built up. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality and the family as the basis of national life.
~spoken February 1, 1933 by Adolf Hitler
(I can quote mine too:P)
OxbowisaMstie 2 years ago
The quotes I am using are dated 12/14/1941 & 10/19/1941. Which if I'm not mistaken is during the 2nd World War. Your quote is exactly what was described in Mein Kampf as propaganda. He used Christian terms to win the masses. The truth doesn't threaten my worldview it shapes it.
When I say Christianity isn't religion I am saying it isn't what is regarded as religion these days. There is a lot of crap being sold as Christian religion and it isn't so.
naj1978 2 years ago
@naj1978 "God the Almighty has made our nation. By defending its existence we are defending His work...."-Adolf Hitler in a radio address, 30 Jan. 1945
hmmmm, guess i win. :D
Drgamedood 1 year ago
@Drgamedood I guess you would win other than the fact that Hitler wasn't a Christian. Like I said he was a big fan of propaganda. Your thinking can't reconcile all of the contradicting quotes of Hitler so you pick one and ignore the rest. I'm so proud that we have become masters of google these days to substitute for real studying.
naj1978 1 year ago
@naj1978 All of hitler's alleged anti christian statements come from the table talk. Hitler's table talk is considered unreliable by historians because the anti-christian statements don't appear in the original german text. They were made up by french translator François Genoud. The french translations are what english translations rely upon. Furthermore, the talk was heavily edited by martin bormann, a very anti religious atheist.
Drgamedood 1 year ago
@Drgamedood Okay I'll let you have that some historians find certain quotes unreliable so that they can reconcile obvious contradictions in Hitlers writings. Let's look at the big picture though, despite quotes about God's providence and condemning atheism his actions speak otherwise. If you are a Christian you will bear fruit (John 15:8). In other words Hitler may have talked the talk but didn't walk the walk. To my knowledge there was no evidence of repentance in his life. Repentance is key.
naj1978 1 year ago
@naj1978 You're saying he wasn't a "true" christian. This is a "no true scotsman" fallacy. If you're going to say he wasn't christian merely because he did bad things, then lots of christians throughout history wouldn't be christians. The crusaders, inquisitors, etc were all christians. No one seriously argues otherwise on the basis that they "did a few bad things".
Drgamedood 1 year ago
@Drgamedood I'm not saying that he wasn't a Christian because he did bad things because I consider myself a Christian but that doesn't change the fact that I'm a sinner. I have sins of commission as well as sins of omission. James 2:14-26 explains my point which is basically faith without works is a dead faith or an empty profession of faith. Even demons believe in God (verse 19) but they will not be in heaven. He may have had a deep faith in God but apart from Christ it is a false faith.
naj1978 1 year ago
I mean if you don' t like the idea of God which that's all it is, you hate God. The very reason that atheists exist is proof of God. Then come up with a better theory that says our cousins are chimps.
Atheists give themselves a way out of everything so that they don't have to answer to anybody or debate anyone. Then the rest of their time is spent bashing christians and being profane on their blogs and in interviews. And they say christianity is bad for the world. LOL!!
naj1978 2 years ago
@naj1978
It isn't like we dislike the idea of a a god" personal or otherwise. (which i should point out i do dislike the idea of anyone, god or otherwise looking in on me to see what am doing 24 hrs a day. so that makes me an anti-theist) We, as atheists, reject the concept of a god of any kind as a merit-less claim with no basis in reality. I mean you as Christians do the same thing with ever other religion, we just go one religion further.
OxbowisaMstie 2 years ago
Wow this just in it takes money to run a ministry. Christians are still under the same economic rules as everyone else.
I don't understand why people are trying to bash WOTM when they are preaching the Gospel of Christ. How about bash people like Joel Osteen, TD Jakes, Kenneth Copeland, etc.? Oh yeah I know why because those guys aren't preaching the Gospel and aren't worried about telling people the truth.
There is a creator. We did not come from chimps!
naj1978 2 years ago
you can't show me one clip of ray comfort asking any one to send him money because he NEVER DID AND NEVER WILL.
michaelgypsy3277 2 years ago
There are plenty. This is a business and he makes money selling lines of BS to the 'washed' Christian masses in the form of books and other various forms of media. Not to mention, he threatens for donations from those scared of death.
OxbowisaMstie 2 years ago
he don't push his books on people out of 100 clips you might find one of him talking about his books and that is not the same. Go see him live at hunting beach he gives money away. The first time I seen him he gave me a free book and he placed $20 in side with out me knowing. I found it the next day
michaelgypsy3277 2 years ago
How honest can a person who denies evolution and espouses the lie of Creationism really be?
Furthermore, Jews and Eastern Faiths don't proselytize and their numbers are in the hundreds of millions. Neither do Wiccans and their religion is the fastest growing faith in America at a time when Christianity of all faiths are in decline and the number of non-theists have doubled in the last 15 years (Source: ARIS survey 2008)
JanusChrist 2 years ago
show me one clip of your god
OrderoftheWhiteHand 2 years ago 3
Maybe you should watch his Origin in schools video, he asks for money there
AtheistAtLARGE 2 years ago
not true I was part of that project we paid $1000 for 1000 books he did not make a profit the books sell for $5 he sells them for $1
michaelgypsy3277 2 years ago
wow gypsy, no wonder he gave you $20 lol
The guy that handed out 1000 books to MSU, didnt pay a dime, he says that Ray sent him the books NO CHARGE !
I dont know yet what Ray paid for the books, but his 09 tax record will be out in a yr or so, I should get confirmation then on what he spent on them
Now he had a millionare donor to double their fund for this project, so this didnt cost ray a penny when you come right down to it.
Ray gets about 1 million bucks a yr from donations
AtheistAtLARGE 2 years ago
If I was a millionare I would do the same I know Ray I been inside his ministry I seen his house and car I know where he eats and how he dresses and he is not after your money. I never seen any one hand out money like him. He walks up to strangers and gives them money with out even telling them who he is. On nov 19 he handed out over a two hundred dollar just in about 2 hours and any one who knows him will tell you this is a every day thing. So this video is out of line and a flat out lie.
michaelgypsy3277 2 years ago
lol
HE MAKES 1MILLION BUCKS IN DONATIONS !
He can afford to throw away money !
lol
Well I guess the trick works, at least on you.
Its a FAMILY BUSINESS, he makes $120k a yr min, EZ makes just over $100k, and Rays son, makes around $90k and there's more
Now answer to your lie that you said he'd never ask anyone for money ... because we've shown you that he has
AtheistAtLARGE 2 years ago
all you showed is that your a jealous God hater.
Go get a job of your own and don't worry if this hard working man get's paid for his work. TV & Radio Preachers can not be compered to Ray. you know it I know it and God knows it. Your lies don't stand a chance me and Ray are good friends
michaelgypsy3277 2 years ago
How can you hate that which you do not believe? The burden of proof is on you.
Oh and if you know Ray, please tell him he needs to debate Matt Dillahunty of the The Atheist Community of Austin.
OxbowisaMstie 2 years ago
@michaelgypsy3277
A. I have a job.
B. I am only reposting this video, i did not create it.
C. The video speaks for itself, the man is a salesman. Pure and simple. I am sorry that doesn't make you feel all warm and fuzzy. Really, i'll shed a single tear for you.
OxbowisaMstie 2 years ago
sick sad sinners
geisler78 3 years ago
I enjoy most sins insofar as they do not damage someone else or their possessions. :D
(it's the Libertarian in me...)
OxbowisaMstie 3 years ago
Interesting. Personally, I don't think that they're in it for money and propaganda. Their objective is more based on religious dillusion and zealotry which amounts to nothing but stupidity and the typical steriotypical religious examples which are a major disservice to the religious people who are nice and decent. Great video.
Chuloloc 3 years ago
Thanks for posting my video.
th3w01fv2 4 years ago
yeah, i can't stand censorship and this vid was too good not to be reposted ^^
baldur26 4 years ago 5