@CheesyGranola Yep. The Movie goes against the established canon however that just makes the movie more interesting since we see Trunks grow as a character. Bye Sigma Slash. See you on gamefaqs. :D
pwnt. lol dragon ball z has 4 timelines with this time travel crapt. doesnt make sense. timline 1, goku dies. 2 trunks comes back and gives heart medicine and then goes back. 3 trunks gets killed by cell in the future, who takes his time machine. 4 trunks went to past, trained, goes back to future and stops cell from stealig his time machine. Cell died 3 times, first in present, then as larva in present, and in the future. wtf.
@katie71224 The movies are not necessarily paradoxes / continuity errors. most are not. Some maybe considered, but when you look at those, you could place them in a lot of spots, or in the right light, it may not be a plot hole. Some movies are possible to confirm, like coolers revenge, you see cooler in GT while escaping hell. The res plenty more examples, and also cut dialogues. The Dragon Ball Z Perfect files help fix some plot holes.
@2583060 Indeed, you are correct. A lot of times it's more just confusing to try to pinpoint exactly when some of the movies would be happening in time with the series. It's more things like a ton of inconsistencies with things like Namekians eating habits, Saiyan's hair color, the entire GT series' existence since Emperor Pilaf should have died when the Earth was destroyed during the Kid Buu saga...you know, little things lol XD
@katie71224 GT still would have happened even without pilaf beause baby would have found Gokus power level. Also, Pilaf was brought back to life, after buu because they wished for all the good people to come back, and apparently he wasnt that bad. officialy. Cpt Ginyu was live as a frog until Buu
@katie71224 There are no paradox's, its the multiverse theory. Trunks explains that in order to travel through time he has to move to another dimension.
@2583060 Nah they are three different cells, technically the last time when trunks kills cell though that would have stopped him going back in time therefore defeat the whole cell saga just there, but he wouldnt have been able to defeat him if cell hadnt of first killed trunks in one time line went back in time to inspire trunks to get stronger... what a paradox lol... i just realised your right
@Master553300 well according to time travel theories one could never go back to the same point in time in the past in the same timeline so once ur gone ur gone. so when he went to the past he just made another universe where Goku didnt die like a bitch and the androids didnt go on that grand ass whooping spree they did in his time
@2583060 Although not ALL the DBZ movies are continuity-deficient, most are. It's incorrect to say that those movies that ARE considered plot-holed can be put in a spot, because they CAN'T. Tree of Might is a perfect example. Goku defeats Turles with a spirit bomb, and uses the Kaio-Ken technique (not to mention he speaks to King Kai). But at the same time, Yamcha, Tien, and Piccolo are present. That is impossible, because those characters are not wished back until AFTER the Frieza saga.
@2583060 And are killed by Nappa. Not to mention Yamcha's fighting apparel bears King Kai's symbol, thus implying that this is AFTER he came back from King Kai's planet. The only explanation is that this movie is an alternate timeline/dimension. I still love Dragon Ball Z, but am just trying to set the record straight. And hell, you may not have been against this argument in the first place, haha.
@katie71224 The History of Trunks and Bardock movie are all that are cannon.in the movies, and really, it's not that hard to follow those time flows is it? I mean I can do it and I'm clinically retarded lol
@2583060 Though no time travel story really holds up to logical analysis, I think DBZ was at least internally consistent on this, in that the point of Trunks' visit from the future was not to alter his own timeline but to give another one a chance. If we extrapolate from this that each incidence of travel goes to a different branch, it makes sense that there'd be different versions of the characters from each—with different outcomes for each at varying points in the timelines.
@Irrenmann possibly, but when you think about it, Cell was still killed 3 times... future, present as super perfect cell, and as a embyro/baby in the lab. Also if that theory was true, it wouldnt make sense if trunks was able to return to his own time since there can be so many timelines. you cannot go back to the future if the past has been altered. DBZ and time makes no sense, the movies logically break the timeline, especially the one with tapion.
@2583060 I think it makes sense in that Trunks could return to his time but it wouldn't have been altered by time travel, or if you like, he returned to one that matched what it had been like when he departed. This is an actual theory of how time travel might work—"sum over histories" and all that.
As for the movies, I am not sure they were ever supposed to be canonical within the TV series timeline, despite certain little nods to them. Continuity-wise, they generally can't be made to fit.
@2583060 that was explained in the episodes... trunks went and gave goku the meds then he found a way to kill the andriods so he wanted to come back after winning his war... but he was killed... this trunks... came back EARLIER than the other supposed trunks wanted to... becuase he wanted to check up on things when the andriods attacked... Cell is literally from the future like Trunks. So basically Trunks bruaght Cell into the past the real Cell never hatched out of the Lab-probly destroyed@lab
FUTURE Cell died at Gohan's hand, that timelines Cell may have died at the explosion at the LAb? that part may be unexplainable.. since the actual character dialog makes no mention of what happened to the underground bunker where Cell was kept as a larva. Also, future Cell dies at Trunks hands when he finally killed the Andriods by his hand (18 and 19).. thats when Cell appears Trunks knew becuase Future Perfect Cell told him how he killed him
@augstw12 yea. Thats what they all do. If you notice, the higher their hair gets, the stronger they get. Obviously never ever become as strong as Guile, but they work hard to get close to his level.
Dr. Gero ruined everything. He lost it all, but doesnt mean the world should have lost it all. Maybe if he put his mind to good use he'd feel happier.
I like this super saying transformation the best. He is like the one who is crying after losing someone he loved. Yah goku lost krillin, but goku didn't cry lol.
Why not build a tele and stop all bad guys?!!!! SERIOUSLY WTF No cell, no friza, no buu, no supah 17 or anything. But wait, paradox, you couldnt defeat if u dont know em. TIME PARADOX
@2583060 Actually it wouldn't do a damn thing in his own timeline. Did you actually watch the show? It just creates a new time line. He could go back in time and do all those things and still come home to a dead world.
@GlitchmasterD Goten was never born In the future because Goku dies and the Androids come and Kill everyone and gohan is the only one left with trucks and Bulma. When Gohan dies Trunks because like Will smith in I Am Legend when his dog dies :D
Go home and be a saiyanman.
microido 3 months ago
@andre30098 Goku died of a disease and since that's a natural cause, Shenron can't bring him back.
Also he can't kill anyone, that was made clear before Nappa & Vegeta arrived.
animeasskicker 4 months ago
wtf???!!!!that scared the mess outa me!!!!!!0-0
trunks470 4 months ago
the death of Gohon
mustacheman300 5 months ago
I didn't know Trunks can yell themes...
00SebastianMichaelis 5 months ago
IT DOESN'T FIT EVERYTHING....IT GOES WITH EVERYTHING!!!!!
happycamperable 5 months ago 3
Cool
RavenKing1267 5 months ago
That was a waste of a theme.
Vergilzelkin 6 months ago
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nitro855 6 months ago
I cried when he died. But laughed when Trunks got pwned by the androids xD
EpicZetaGundam 6 months ago
Go SuperSaiyan.....FOR AMERICA!
ProjectBlackRose 6 months ago
Fun Fact: Trunks could already turn into a Super Saiyan in the manga.
CheesyGranola 6 months ago
@CheesyGranola Yep. The Movie goes against the established canon however that just makes the movie more interesting since we see Trunks grow as a character. Bye Sigma Slash. See you on gamefaqs. :D
CrimsonVermillioneye 6 months ago
idk y trunks didnt go to namek and wish for goku back to life or something. like that.
zeee7 7 months ago
pwnt. lol dragon ball z has 4 timelines with this time travel crapt. doesnt make sense. timline 1, goku dies. 2 trunks comes back and gives heart medicine and then goes back. 3 trunks gets killed by cell in the future, who takes his time machine. 4 trunks went to past, trained, goes back to future and stops cell from stealig his time machine. Cell died 3 times, first in present, then as larva in present, and in the future. wtf.
2583060 7 months ago 9
@2583060 No one ever said Toriyama cared about paradoxes or inconsistencies in the series hahaha the movies are always PRIME examples of such.
katie71224 7 months ago 14
@katie71224 The movies are not necessarily paradoxes / continuity errors. most are not. Some maybe considered, but when you look at those, you could place them in a lot of spots, or in the right light, it may not be a plot hole. Some movies are possible to confirm, like coolers revenge, you see cooler in GT while escaping hell. The res plenty more examples, and also cut dialogues. The Dragon Ball Z Perfect files help fix some plot holes.
2583060 7 months ago
@2583060 Indeed, you are correct. A lot of times it's more just confusing to try to pinpoint exactly when some of the movies would be happening in time with the series. It's more things like a ton of inconsistencies with things like Namekians eating habits, Saiyan's hair color, the entire GT series' existence since Emperor Pilaf should have died when the Earth was destroyed during the Kid Buu saga...you know, little things lol XD
katie71224 7 months ago
@katie71224 GT still would have happened even without pilaf beause baby would have found Gokus power level. Also, Pilaf was brought back to life, after buu because they wished for all the good people to come back, and apparently he wasnt that bad. officialy. Cpt Ginyu was live as a frog until Buu
2583060 7 months ago
@katie71224 There are no paradox's, its the multiverse theory. Trunks explains that in order to travel through time he has to move to another dimension.
Gerfodger 2 months ago
@2583060 Nah they are three different cells, technically the last time when trunks kills cell though that would have stopped him going back in time therefore defeat the whole cell saga just there, but he wouldnt have been able to defeat him if cell hadnt of first killed trunks in one time line went back in time to inspire trunks to get stronger... what a paradox lol... i just realised your right
Master553300 6 months ago
@Master553300 well according to time travel theories one could never go back to the same point in time in the past in the same timeline so once ur gone ur gone. so when he went to the past he just made another universe where Goku didnt die like a bitch and the androids didnt go on that grand ass whooping spree they did in his time
MSdapiedpipa 6 months ago
@2583060 Although not ALL the DBZ movies are continuity-deficient, most are. It's incorrect to say that those movies that ARE considered plot-holed can be put in a spot, because they CAN'T. Tree of Might is a perfect example. Goku defeats Turles with a spirit bomb, and uses the Kaio-Ken technique (not to mention he speaks to King Kai). But at the same time, Yamcha, Tien, and Piccolo are present. That is impossible, because those characters are not wished back until AFTER the Frieza saga.
mshake64 3 months ago
@2583060 And are killed by Nappa. Not to mention Yamcha's fighting apparel bears King Kai's symbol, thus implying that this is AFTER he came back from King Kai's planet. The only explanation is that this movie is an alternate timeline/dimension. I still love Dragon Ball Z, but am just trying to set the record straight. And hell, you may not have been against this argument in the first place, haha.
mshake64 3 months ago
@katie71224 The History of Trunks and Bardock movie are all that are cannon.in the movies, and really, it's not that hard to follow those time flows is it? I mean I can do it and I'm clinically retarded lol
wgarrett1889 1 month ago
@wgarrett1889 You don't seem clinically retarded. Give yourself SOME credit.
RyanKaufman 1 month ago
@2583060 Though no time travel story really holds up to logical analysis, I think DBZ was at least internally consistent on this, in that the point of Trunks' visit from the future was not to alter his own timeline but to give another one a chance. If we extrapolate from this that each incidence of travel goes to a different branch, it makes sense that there'd be different versions of the characters from each—with different outcomes for each at varying points in the timelines.
Irrenmann 4 months ago
@Irrenmann possibly, but when you think about it, Cell was still killed 3 times... future, present as super perfect cell, and as a embyro/baby in the lab. Also if that theory was true, it wouldnt make sense if trunks was able to return to his own time since there can be so many timelines. you cannot go back to the future if the past has been altered. DBZ and time makes no sense, the movies logically break the timeline, especially the one with tapion.
2583060 4 months ago
@2583060 I think it makes sense in that Trunks could return to his time but it wouldn't have been altered by time travel, or if you like, he returned to one that matched what it had been like when he departed. This is an actual theory of how time travel might work—"sum over histories" and all that.
As for the movies, I am not sure they were ever supposed to be canonical within the TV series timeline, despite certain little nods to them. Continuity-wise, they generally can't be made to fit.
Irrenmann 4 months ago
@2583060 that was explained in the episodes... trunks went and gave goku the meds then he found a way to kill the andriods so he wanted to come back after winning his war... but he was killed... this trunks... came back EARLIER than the other supposed trunks wanted to... becuase he wanted to check up on things when the andriods attacked... Cell is literally from the future like Trunks. So basically Trunks bruaght Cell into the past the real Cell never hatched out of the Lab-probly destroyed@lab
True2TheBlueYoViGang 3 months ago
@2583060 part two - the multiple deaths of cell
FUTURE Cell died at Gohan's hand, that timelines Cell may have died at the explosion at the LAb? that part may be unexplainable.. since the actual character dialog makes no mention of what happened to the underground bunker where Cell was kept as a larva. Also, future Cell dies at Trunks hands when he finally killed the Andriods by his hand (18 and 19).. thats when Cell appears Trunks knew becuase Future Perfect Cell told him how he killed him
True2TheBlueYoViGang 3 months ago
he didnt go super saiyan he just turned 2 guile
augstw12 7 months ago 2
@augstw12 yea. Thats what they all do. If you notice, the higher their hair gets, the stronger they get. Obviously never ever become as strong as Guile, but they work hard to get close to his level.
Demoniq 7 months ago
Go home and be a purple haired man
GoldenCenturion 7 months ago 2
Dr. Gero ruined everything. He lost it all, but doesnt mean the world should have lost it all. Maybe if he put his mind to good use he'd feel happier.
2583060 7 months ago
He became a super saiyan...... FOR AMERICA !!!!
Ghaltouni 8 months ago 5
I like this super saying transformation the best. He is like the one who is crying after losing someone he loved. Yah goku lost krillin, but goku didn't cry lol.
zeee7 8 months ago
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nitro855 8 months ago
Press 6 and see trunks hit those beats for AMERICA!!!!!
poopzassshit 8 months ago
OMFG !!!!!
Trunks hit every beat at 0:35
Nice timing.
poopzassshit 8 months ago 2
u sad bro?
skarballs 8 months ago 2
0:36
Trunks:NOW I'LL SHOW YOU!
UburezReturns 8 months ago
Why not build a tele and stop all bad guys?!!!! SERIOUSLY WTF No cell, no friza, no buu, no supah 17 or anything. But wait, paradox, you couldnt defeat if u dont know em. TIME PARADOX
2583060 9 months ago
@2583060 Actually it wouldn't do a damn thing in his own timeline. Did you actually watch the show? It just creates a new time line. He could go back in time and do all those things and still come home to a dead world.
Pilaf1984 8 months ago
Trunks made history for AMERICA!
deerocks100 9 months ago
This was me when my rabbit died
Spec0pleader 10 months ago
5 people went home and cried for saiya man
TunnelSnakesRuIe 10 months ago
Damnit is there a guile's theme vid where Trunks kills the androids? Now that shit would be awesome! "This is for Gohan!" dun dun dun dun dun!
animehater1 10 months ago
Androids: And now we have taken over the World.
M. Bison: OF COURSE!
DemonKingMMA 10 months ago 2
SONIC TIME TRAVEL!
Gigaguy64 10 months ago
GOHAN AND BE A FAMILY SAIYAN
ShadowImperials 10 months ago 3
Sonic Saiyan Boom
KetsuRosataMalnor 11 months ago
DONT CRY....DONT FUCKING CRY...BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW....
FurryXterminator 11 months ago
Go to the past to say at your father he will be family man.
10wazar 1 year ago 6
go to the past and save your family men!
Sakuto2 1 year ago 3
Gohan died... FOR AMERICA!
bthunder75 1 year ago 7
Trunks transforming in to a guile
blacksoldier430 1 year ago
i felt so guilty as i laughed XP
FallingNowhere 1 year ago 2
lol, Why did the theme played when trunks was freaking out?
Musteak 1 year ago
Gohan is Charlie!
squeege57 1 year ago 14
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His mother's worried sick. He knows what he should go home and do...
Diddlemuffins 1 year ago
His mother's worried sick. He knows what he should go home and do...
Diddlemuffins 1 year ago
"Now i'm Blonde Like Guile"
Marshtripping 1 year ago 5
Gohan Should've gone home and be a saiya man!
TheGeekies 1 year ago 4
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go home and be a super saiyan
zeh0the0don 1 year ago
go home and be a super sayan
zeh0the0don 1 year ago
The awesomeness of Guile's theme makes you a Super Saiyan!
Saiyan0X 1 year ago
If they used someone else's theme it would be THE END OF ALL OF US!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DemonPuppet987 1 year ago
wasn't goten his friend?
GlitchmasterD 1 year ago
@GlitchmasterD Goten doesn't exist in Future Trunks's timeline, it's an in-universe alternate continuity from the Buu saga & GT
Kytseo 1 year ago
@GlitchmasterD Goten was never born In the future because Goku dies and the Androids come and Kill everyone and gohan is the only one left with trucks and Bulma. When Gohan dies Trunks because like Will smith in I Am Legend when his dog dies :D
itachisan02 1 year ago 2
when i go supersaiyan i want guiles theme playing
psyco179 1 year ago
Well, shit. That was weird.
FilthyLampost 1 year ago
Go to the past and be a swordsman trunks!
emmeg516 1 year ago 3
Gohan died . . . . . FOR AMERICA !!
startmirca 1 year ago 7
GO HOME AND BE A SUPER SAIYAN
elrolinga77 1 year ago
Gohan? Gohan?! GOHAAAAAN!? *Metal Gear Solid game over music*
AmayirotAkago 1 year ago
If they do a KAI remake of this scene, this is perfect.
zeromk5 1 year ago
At about :50 he goes oh shit. This is new.
NoahOblivion 1 year ago
lol english sub sucks
YUTUBQLIAOMALO 1 year ago
2 people wish they were Guile
bluemew22 1 year ago
Gohan should go home and be a saya-man
squeege57 1 year ago 10
@squeege57 Damnit you beat me to it. XD
cha05kn1ght 1 year ago
Go home and be an alternate future that can never change but pertains to the events of a past that can be changed but wont alter the said future.
JTtheLAR 1 year ago
Go to the past and be a family man!
ObadiahtheSlim 1 year ago 2
WHAT EPISODE IS THIS PLEASE TELL ME !
moh09 1 year ago
@moh09 history of trunks dbz movie
MrSaturnZOOM 1 year ago
Its okay Trunks, Gohan went home to be a family man.
RhinoSea 1 year ago 6
Go home and be a......oh wait he dead
lilsed3 1 year ago 152
@lilsed3 did he died?
hilodragon 1 year ago 4
@hilodragon gohan was killed by android 17 and 18 in this future.
cormeaga 1 year ago
@lilsed3 NOOOOOOO!!!!!
MrBranman718 7 months ago
Go to the future and be a family man
ChefCthulhu 1 year ago 192
yess
kevinbollers2 1 year ago
@kevinbollers2 lol that's exactly what I said as I clicked on this.
nos111790 1 year ago