just off of research bc i wanted to know what happened to them all...alice and tracy are fine oreo is no where to be found jessica got into a car accident under the influence and passed away jake, oreos girlfriend, tracys first boyfriend are all dead :(
When they said that Jake got a girlfriend, were they talking about a transvestite or something? I could have sworn that kid was queer as blazes, and it's hard to believe that heroin made someone gay and once that person got clean he became straight all of the sudden.
@Mafila or is it that they will stoop to the lowest of lows and will do anything for a fix...even allowing a same sex sexual transaction ... these people have no boundaries when it comes to finding a $ for their drug of choice! So sad!
Given the subject matter and the spread of HIV in the documentary, you think the person who made this update when writing about Alice could have used a better phrase than "sounded positive".
This mirrored peoples experiences I know. In getting clean tolerance to the drug lowers making their next hit deadly. People coming out of prison clean and dying within days is an example of the danger, especially when clean of all types of opiates. That relapse tends to be done alone, because they know how much they will disappoint others. So it becomes a sneaky hit, and potentially deadly. The irony of heroin is most people dont O.D when in it hard, they OD relapsing and its usually fatal.
@Masychefx2 To quote Johnny Rotten when he spoke about Sid Vicious... "He was too young for that shit". I just feel such compassion for Jake, because he died so young and pretty much most of the time it seemed like he was suffering or being abused. The one good thing to take away from this is that a young vulnerable person will see this documentary, see Jake and never fucking touch heroin. RIP Jake!
I noticed a few people commented that Tracey gained weight. Tracey is very lucky. She can gain weight and still doesn't lose her gorgeous face! Plus we all gain weight as we get older. I'll probably always have my "mummy tummy". At the beginning of the documentary when I first saw Tracey, my first impression was that she was so gorgeous even as a hard core addict. This documentary was so good. Check out "through a blue lens". It's canadian. Really good as well.
@59impalakid yeah it is a shame, but i can definitely say congratulations to her for being one of the stronger ones, simply because most heroin users dont even come close to making it as far as she has so far, so hopefully she will be able to stay away from heroin for good this time?! you both have kids now so that, in alot of cases, can be the true motivational factor in helping someone to get clean and stay clean. she also has someone like you to stick by her...good for her, and you!
@59impalakid Aside from your wife, did you know any of the people in this documentary? Were they the way they were portrayed? Best wishes to your wife on her recovery.
Alice is doing very well, and physically she looks as if she never was a heavy heroin user. (Say what you want about the tats, she has a great body)
Jake's story really made me sad, I really felt for him. I'm currently on a methadone maintenece program for physical pain and, at this point, addiction as well. I was originally prescribed it for pain, though.
It's good to know that Tracy was able to crawl out of the hellhole that is heroin and make something of her life. It's sad to know that three of these people died and that Oreo is nowhere to be seen but it shows just how easily this drug tears lives apart from the inside out. Hopefully one day the government will realize that the war on drugs can't possibly be a permanent solution and will work on treating the root of the countries drug problem rather than continuing to fill prisons to capacity.
@tylerdanieltothemax Really? I think it looks exactly like her. There is even a scene in Black Tar Heroin: Dark End where you can see "Alice McMunn" written in blood on her wall.
3 of them died, one is still on the game and one is a pole dancer. If they'd been given clean legal heroin, they'd all be alive, probably working and studying and paying taxes. Like the addicts of Switzerland. Instead the cruel war on drugs has killed them.
its been 13 years, 10 months since i used drugs. not missing them. i still think about using but more the way you think about something that happened so long ago, it doesnt seem like me. i would use drugs if i could but it is much easier to stay clean that get clean so i leave it all alone.
I feel for jake the most he was never given a chance from the start. Even though he acted crazy anyone would with the drugs he was on. I have been clean for 5 years now and the hardest part is accepting that i didnt know everything and that i had made my own bad choices. To live is to suffer but a person makes the choice of how bad it will be.
There are no "happy endings" to a Heroin Addiction. The ones that are strong enough, and have enough people to care for, and about them may kick their addiction but there's nothing "happy" about it. Just SURVIVING is the best you can hope for. Methadone is a God's Send! There should be free, "No Questions Asked" Methadone Clinics in every city. With free Methadone available there would be far less Hep-C, HIV and disease related to being an addict. Methadone vastly reduces Crime (thefts).
@randy95023 Methadone is by no way a "God Send" by any means. I have been clean from heroin for almost 5 years and never used methadone as a ways and means to stop. My opinion, a 12 step program is what works. Using methadone is just replacing one drug with another.
@brandon32807 I won't dispute what you say. QUITTING all opiates is, of course, the best and wisest course. However, many people are just plain not capable of quitting. Methadone is the best course for someone who cannot quit opiates. To them it IS a "Godsend". I used the 12 steps to quit drinking and haven't had a drink (not even a beer) in two years next month (January 18th). I drank heavy for 28 years and was able to quit. But not everyone can succeed with the "12 steps"...
If you ever come to sf, mostly of the places featured in the video look totally different. Aaron K, another person featured briefly in the video (he offers to get me drugs when I get out of jail) died recently of renal failure. He has very young. Addiction sucks. Whatever you have to do- methadone, Jesus, 12-step, suboxone, residential- stay safe friends.
@traceyh415 Ive recently read that in some countries they prescribe addicts to pure heroin. Im not sure if youve looked in to that matter but if so would you prefer to get off heroin by a methadone clinic or the diacetylmorphine program ? How did you get off ?
@traceyh415 This is heartbreaking but also inspiring that some had the strength to climb out. Jake's story was the hardest for me to watch, I think because there was no detail about his family, other than why he was born. With the others, you knew there was someone out there who loved them and was hoping for their health. Tracey, do you know any more about Jake's background or did his mom come to his memorial? Thank you for posting and sharing.
@Meow116 Jakes memorial was in the bay area. His mother died years prior. Some distant family claimed his ashes and took them back to where he was from. Alabama I think. I'm not the best historian for all this information.
@traceyh415 Thanks for answering. I don't know why his story specifically stuck with me so much. No close family and then hooking up with that predator in that apartment. I am glad things went well for Jake for at least a while towards the end. Do you know what the reaction was at the time to the video from the people in it? I wish there was more follow up. You will get tired of answering questions!
Alice was the only person of the five with a good strong attitude and had the best outlook in spite of her young life, so I have to credit her with the most likely to succeed in life... Glad she did good in spite of her beer swilling boyfriend who tries to panhandle for drug money...She must have dumped him off at Tracey's place,
@josephtuohy1 Did you know him before or after the period in this video? I think he's the only one in the video who didn't say why he ended up in san francisco and how he got into drugs and I wondered.
@Meow116 I first met him in 1988, He was picked on by most kids,and was bullied all the time.I took the time to know him, and he had a heart of gold.Saw him from time to time, but didnt really keep up with what was going on with him,then he just disappeared. The story hit me pretty hard, goes to show that anyone is game.I myself battled with addiction,and still survive.
@josephtuohy1 Why on earth would be be bullied? I don't get it. Where did you/he grow up? Given that he said his mom was an addict, I wondered if that had something to do with him starting heroin, or if she just didn't have the ability to take care of him.
@traceyh415 Thats terrible. Incredibly dope sick ? Or in bad health ? Or both ? How do you know all this ? I know youre Tracy from the vid but do you contact these people personally ? Also I just got busted for heroin posession and I have a felony staring at me in the face. Did you ever get busted with a felony ? If so did it effect things like getting a job ?
@mnmfreak502 Yes, I knew all these people personally. SF is a small place 7x7 miles. I had a felony conviction but it hasn't been a barrier getting a job because i primarily have worked in social work settings. i believe somehwere close a quarter of the US population has been arrested so many people m,ake accomodation Alot of places also have expungement or ability to seal your record after a period of time. I never got that done though.
@traceyh415 I live 20 miles west of Cincinnati Ohio in Indiana and I know that Ohio MIGHT do it since its my first charge. But Indiana would laugh in my face if I asked for an expungement.
@traceyh415 Hi Tracey, I put a link to your article in the video description of this video. Thanks for giving us a heads-up to your great article!!!!!
@traceyh415 When I was watching this documentary for the first time, I thought "there isn't going to be a happy end for most of these people... it's going to be death by overdose/ aids related death or just decades of awful life on the street". But the one person I thought out of all them who could make it out of that cycle of addiction and survive it was Tracey. And if you're the same Tracey that's in this documentary you're an amazing person. I'm a recovering boozer, but this is something else
@tracey415, do you have any advice for parents with teenagers? I have a 13 year old girl, do you think there is something specific I could do so she doesn't do drugs? I am really scared for her.... thanks and congratulations on your recovery and new life////
@tgrazgirl1 As an addict in recovery ( 11 years now) with my own kids i'm probably about to go through the same as you. I'm pretty damn terrified my kids are going to end up doing the stuff i did.
I plan on taking the harm minimisation route as opposed to zero tolerence, my parents tried zero tolerence on me and it had the opposite effect. I cant really give you much more advice than if they want to do it, were not going to be able to stop them. Educate her, hell show her the hbo special.
Anyone know what happened to Jessica? She is on my mind and in my prayers. Addiction really does take over people. I never knew how strong a hold it has on people until I watched this.
I don't like how jessica, is having sex without telling her partners about her status. i know a lot of people, but she is putting people lives in danger and possibly already destroyed a few. makes you really think about who your laying in bed with...
Wow, Tracey is definitely a strong woman, and so intelligent. I am so glad she got off the heroin and graduated university. So much help can come from people in Tracey's position.
We have to remember not to judge those who take drugs, watching Black Tar Heroin was so disturbing to me , that instead of looking down on drug users, I find I have compassion. We do not know how difficult life is for others until we are in their shoes. God Bless all those in this program
@ElleCM2 The real problem whit drug users is that their self-esteem is really really low. With a little confidence they can stop taking these shit but people make them feel like garbage. You are right, we must not judge them but help them.
@rockytheafg intolerance with drugs comes from 1930s more or less. people have been using drugs since 4000 BC, and in all the cultures where drugs were tolerated, no addicts existed, very few people died or had damage, and mostly every person using cannabinoids, opium and other things could have a normal, respected and satisfying normal life. now the world put the matter in the way that if you use drugs you are a bad person or you have a problem, but historically drugs are just normality.
Im confused why people would come on here to say negative things about drug users. Prescription drug abuse not kills more people than car accidents. Drug and alcohol abuse touch everyone in a very personal way.
Im confused why people would come on here to say negative things about drug users. Prescription drug abuse not kills more people than car accidents. Drug and alcohol abuse touch everyone in a very personal way. I
@scotchvelo Jake was clean and sober and going to college in sf with a nice girlfriend. He relapsed and died a short time later. He was a volunteer at Gillman, a good friend. He died about 7 years ago. There were tons of people at his memorial. His death had nothing to do with HIV .
You can check Alice out here on youtube : Strip city promo -where she teaches girls how to poledance.She is the girl with the black mohawk dyed hair.She is 36 years old now,has been clean for more than 10 years,and still visits meetings.Or you can check her on facebook-Malice Mc Munn....she is a stripper,performer,etc...she has her own website where you can pay for her to...show things...anal,vaginal,porn stuff....you know....whatever,she is clean and it is all that matters!:-)
@wannaknowit Wow. I remember during BTH when Alice was claiming that she could never see herself turn tricks to earn money for drugs; she also claimed that women 'possess a power that men just do not have.' Strip City really puts things in perspective. That's situational irony if there ever was some...
At least she's clean now. And if stripping makes her happy--more power to her. I'd never pay to see someone pole dance but I don't pass judgement on those who do. I bet she makes good money.
so funny. The movie ended in 1997 when i was 27. It was filmed over the course of 2 1/2 years. I stopped using Feb 27, 1998 a few months shy of my 28 birthday. I WISH this was someone elses life, but alas, that was me. Now, I am 41. Such a long time ago! Im not sure some people realize how long ago this film was made...
@traceyh415 you were one of my favorite on the video. i liked oreo too he was so cute. Really depressing documentary especially the girl and guy who became hiv+ they were tragic especially back then when HIV was a very difficult disease to live with much more than today./
traceyh415 is not the tracey from the documentary. it is an imposter. on one of traceyh415's posts she says she has been clean for 13 years. the imposter is only 32. the tracey in the documentary is in her 20's. if she had 13 years clean, she would have had to get clean at 19-impossible. imposter, expose urself
@MrTheEvilgerman - u have2cease being a sexist loser. And making jokes where ur the only person who lols. From the sounds of it ur the sort of sad bastard who does it all the time.
@MrTheEvilgerman what are you trying to say i cant read a word of this ,,are you illiterate ,,all i can understand is something about you gassing jews or something
I had Hep c but cleared the virus. They have tested me at least 20 times- I don't have it anymore. i still have the anti-bodies but no virus It really depends on what genotype of hep c you get- some are worse than others. Never got HIV or an STD. I used needle exchange. Its really works. I worked at needle exchange giving out naloxone (generic narcan to addicts to prevent overdoses for many years until i got preg with #1
yes, I'm fat now. put down the spoon and picked up the fork. Of copurse, i was 119 pounds here and Im 5"8" so anything is going to look fat compared to that.
@invisibleisolation SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU JEWISH NIGGER. HOW ABOUT YOU SLIDE YOUR STINKY STICKY SHITTY PANTIES OFF SO I CAN SLIDE MY INDEX FINGER UP YOUR SMELLY DISCHARGED FRESHLY SHAVEN SNATCH OF YOURS OK. I BET YOUR COOTER IS ACHING FOR A GOOD HARD FUCK, TELL THE TRUTH YOU UGLY SLAB OF JEWISH SHIT.
@invisibleisolation YOU MOTHERFUCKING JEWISH HEROIN ADDICTED SCUM BAG. I HOPE YOU FUCKING DIE ALONG WITH YOUR STREET PROSTITUTE OF A MOTHER. FUCK THE BOTH OF YOU SCUM FUCKS.
@invisibleisolation You're an uneducated heroin addicted street prostitute. Just look at you, you fucking disgust me you Jewish piece of shit. Fucking die.
@invisibleisolation You seriously seem mentally challenged. You need to seek mental help immediatly. Like I was saying, if you don't want to blame the junkies, blame their parents. I'd blame both to be honest. You can't blame the dealer, the users weren't forced at gun point to try drugs. It was their own fucking choice to lead and live the junkie life. Dealers are wrong but junkies are worse. No junkies, no dealers. Think about it you fucking stupid idiot. You uneducated mentally disabled goof.
@invisibleisolation You're a fucking goof. I don't know where i'll be in 5 years? Of course I do you fucking moron, i'll be here in this same house, at the same job i've been at for 8 years, and with my same significant other i've been with since 93. And I will NEVER try any sort of drugs, NEVER. I'm not like you, you fucking scum bag. And you want us to blame the drug dealers and not the users? PMSL ROFL. Funniest shit i've ever heard. If you don't want to blame the junkies, blame their parents
Thank you Tracey for sharing a part of your life that most will never face. It took courage and a deep drive for you to change... you deserve that happy soccer mom life.. enjoy it.. and rejoice in your strength..
@invisibleisolation i've never done any sort of drugs, never. when i tell people i've never even put a cigarette in my mouth, most don't believe. however, i do drink occasionally. so i don't see the above ever happening to me =) hell, i've never even tried coffee.
I always wanted to know what happened to Theresa.... The lady with abscesses in the black dress who was at Ben and Tracey's
ashleajade86 3 days ago
Great to see Tracey back on her feet.
cadaveresquisito 6 days ago
just off of research bc i wanted to know what happened to them all...alice and tracy are fine oreo is no where to be found jessica got into a car accident under the influence and passed away jake, oreos girlfriend, tracys first boyfriend are all dead :(
pritycoco61608 1 week ago
How did Oreo's girlfriend die?
Mafila 1 week ago
@Mafila it said...drug overdose in a doorway
ucla4eva 2 days ago
When they said that Jake got a girlfriend, were they talking about a transvestite or something? I could have sworn that kid was queer as blazes, and it's hard to believe that heroin made someone gay and once that person got clean he became straight all of the sudden.
Mafila 1 week ago
@Mafila or is it that they will stoop to the lowest of lows and will do anything for a fix...even allowing a same sex sexual transaction ... these people have no boundaries when it comes to finding a $ for their drug of choice! So sad!
blancogurrl 1 week ago
@traceyh415 do you know what happened to oreo? and did jessica passed away? answer please, i'm searching for this information for a long time...
AnaHifenTrema 1 week ago
tracey looked better when she was on the horse, she's fattened up a bit, but I guess when you are feeding your body food instead of junk...
HackSlashKill 1 week ago
I just posted this video as well as a question in a FB group and got several responses people who remembered him.
josephtuohy1 2 weeks ago
@josephtuohy1 If you want to share good memories, it would be nice
Meow116 2 weeks ago
I knew him as baby new year, but I didn't actually know him.
ghostinthema 2 weeks ago
Jake's story is just so fucking sad..
SethHesio 2 weeks ago
Given the subject matter and the spread of HIV in the documentary, you think the person who made this update when writing about Alice could have used a better phrase than "sounded positive".
SethHesio 2 weeks ago
@theiceman, i wish a kid were enough to not use,
futurekill13 2 weeks ago
alice's real model mayhem number is 2015099 the above posting is wrong
Jagoda2103 3 weeks ago
This mirrored peoples experiences I know. In getting clean tolerance to the drug lowers making their next hit deadly. People coming out of prison clean and dying within days is an example of the danger, especially when clean of all types of opiates. That relapse tends to be done alone, because they know how much they will disappoint others. So it becomes a sneaky hit, and potentially deadly. The irony of heroin is most people dont O.D when in it hard, they OD relapsing and its usually fatal.
outofslumber 3 weeks ago
jake was the nicest guy i feel terrible sadness
RIP jake
Masychefx2 1 month ago 10
@Masychefx2 To quote Johnny Rotten when he spoke about Sid Vicious... "He was too young for that shit". I just feel such compassion for Jake, because he died so young and pretty much most of the time it seemed like he was suffering or being abused. The one good thing to take away from this is that a young vulnerable person will see this documentary, see Jake and never fucking touch heroin. RIP Jake!
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TheJrlocc 1 month ago
nice
TheJrlocc 1 month ago
I noticed a few people commented that Tracey gained weight. Tracey is very lucky. She can gain weight and still doesn't lose her gorgeous face! Plus we all gain weight as we get older. I'll probably always have my "mummy tummy". At the beginning of the documentary when I first saw Tracey, my first impression was that she was so gorgeous even as a hard core addict. This documentary was so good. Check out "through a blue lens". It's canadian. Really good as well.
smokedabowl31 1 month ago
The girl with glasses shooting up jake is now my wife and spent 18 months in rehab and was clean 6 years then went back to Heroin in 2006.
After getting her AA, BA, and going to graduate school.at SF state.
We have 2 kids....9 y/o and 12 y/o
She is now on methadone trying again.
I've never done that stuff but it must be more powerful than the devil.
The drug effected her so much that she can't keep a train of thought for more than 5 mins without spinning..it's a shame
She is on methidone again
59impalakid 1 month ago
@59impalakid yeah it is a shame, but i can definitely say congratulations to her for being one of the stronger ones, simply because most heroin users dont even come close to making it as far as she has so far, so hopefully she will be able to stay away from heroin for good this time?! you both have kids now so that, in alot of cases, can be the true motivational factor in helping someone to get clean and stay clean. she also has someone like you to stick by her...good for her, and you!
TheIceman515069 3 weeks ago
@59impalakid Aside from your wife, did you know any of the people in this documentary? Were they the way they were portrayed? Best wishes to your wife on her recovery.
Meow116 2 weeks ago
Oreo has been clean for many years living back east and has a wife and kids!
Good for you Andy!!!!......Ray
59impalakid 1 month ago
@59impalakid
Really? It's a good thing he didn't lose his battle with addction.
reesescupbrandy1 3 weeks ago
Alice is doing very well, and physically she looks as if she never was a heavy heroin user. (Say what you want about the tats, she has a great body)
Jake's story really made me sad, I really felt for him. I'm currently on a methadone maintenece program for physical pain and, at this point, addiction as well. I was originally prescribed it for pain, though.
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bechmann82 1 month ago
It's good to know that Tracy was able to crawl out of the hellhole that is heroin and make something of her life. It's sad to know that three of these people died and that Oreo is nowhere to be seen but it shows just how easily this drug tears lives apart from the inside out. Hopefully one day the government will realize that the war on drugs can't possibly be a permanent solution and will work on treating the root of the countries drug problem rather than continuing to fill prisons to capacity.
Mafila 1 month ago
Heroin's dilema... It is both the cure and the cause! How to solve that?
humbertojimmy 1 month ago
anyone know what happened to jessica?
heylilbunny 1 month ago
@heylilbunny she's passed away now. :/
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sephorus 1 month ago
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EastynGrey 1 month ago 10
@EastynGrey idk if thats her. it doesn't really look like her. i could be wrong though
tylerdanieltothemax 1 month ago
@tylerdanieltothemax Really? I think it looks exactly like her. There is even a scene in Black Tar Heroin: Dark End where you can see "Alice McMunn" written in blood on her wall.
PharodWormhair 3 weeks ago
I wonder how the people features responded to seeing themselves in this video.
Meow116 1 month ago
3 of them died, one is still on the game and one is a pole dancer. If they'd been given clean legal heroin, they'd all be alive, probably working and studying and paying taxes. Like the addicts of Switzerland. Instead the cruel war on drugs has killed them.
littleniyah 1 month ago
Tracy is strong & looks so well here. Glad she beat the odds too many don't. Lesson don't ever start.
jasmin11263 1 month ago
I generally forget about counting the time until it gets close to my recovery annivesary again
traceyh415 1 month ago
@traceyh415 oh ok
Sheenious 1 month ago
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MrLadyjack 1 month ago
so does anyone know where oreo is? this story is really touching
Ckypwnd 1 month ago
its been 13 years, 10 months since i used drugs. not missing them. i still think about using but more the way you think about something that happened so long ago, it doesnt seem like me. i would use drugs if i could but it is much easier to stay clean that get clean so i leave it all alone.
traceyh415 1 month ago
@traceyh415 can drug addicts forget counting the time since they last used or is it not possible? and why?
Sheenious 1 month ago
even If I wasn't going to school and work at the same time i don't know what the fuck i would do with my life, i would have just died !
Sheenious 2 months ago
I feel for jake the most he was never given a chance from the start. Even though he acted crazy anyone would with the drugs he was on. I have been clean for 5 years now and the hardest part is accepting that i didnt know everything and that i had made my own bad choices. To live is to suffer but a person makes the choice of how bad it will be.
jrose2020 2 months ago
thanks a lot for posting this.
UnionKid15 2 months ago
There are no "happy endings" to a Heroin Addiction. The ones that are strong enough, and have enough people to care for, and about them may kick their addiction but there's nothing "happy" about it. Just SURVIVING is the best you can hope for. Methadone is a God's Send! There should be free, "No Questions Asked" Methadone Clinics in every city. With free Methadone available there would be far less Hep-C, HIV and disease related to being an addict. Methadone vastly reduces Crime (thefts).
randy95023 2 months ago
@randy95023 Methadone is by no way a "God Send" by any means. I have been clean from heroin for almost 5 years and never used methadone as a ways and means to stop. My opinion, a 12 step program is what works. Using methadone is just replacing one drug with another.
brandon32807 2 months ago
@brandon32807 I won't dispute what you say. QUITTING all opiates is, of course, the best and wisest course. However, many people are just plain not capable of quitting. Methadone is the best course for someone who cannot quit opiates. To them it IS a "Godsend". I used the 12 steps to quit drinking and haven't had a drink (not even a beer) in two years next month (January 18th). I drank heavy for 28 years and was able to quit. But not everyone can succeed with the "12 steps"...
randy95023 2 months ago
tracey is one of the lucky ones... I like her, good for her
vinniemosher92 2 months ago
I knew Jake had died before it said it...so sad!!!!!
xmanclyx 2 months ago
That video doesn't even look close to what Alice looked like.
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pukekilljoy 2 months ago
Jake appeared as a self destructive individual.
Rittisan 2 months ago
Tracey is full of herself
Rittisan 2 months ago
If you ever come to sf, mostly of the places featured in the video look totally different. Aaron K, another person featured briefly in the video (he offers to get me drugs when I get out of jail) died recently of renal failure. He has very young. Addiction sucks. Whatever you have to do- methadone, Jesus, 12-step, suboxone, residential- stay safe friends.
traceyh415 2 months ago
@traceyh415 Ive recently read that in some countries they prescribe addicts to pure heroin. Im not sure if youve looked in to that matter but if so would you prefer to get off heroin by a methadone clinic or the diacetylmorphine program ? How did you get off ?
mnmfreak502 2 months ago
@mnmfreak502 I got off in jail, resdential treatment and 12 step so no opiate replacement therapy
traceyh415 2 months ago
@traceyh415 Thats how I did it also with no opiate replacement. The way to go I think. Thank you !
mnmfreak502 2 months ago
@traceyh415 This is heartbreaking but also inspiring that some had the strength to climb out. Jake's story was the hardest for me to watch, I think because there was no detail about his family, other than why he was born. With the others, you knew there was someone out there who loved them and was hoping for their health. Tracey, do you know any more about Jake's background or did his mom come to his memorial? Thank you for posting and sharing.
Meow116 2 months ago
@Meow116 Jakes memorial was in the bay area. His mother died years prior. Some distant family claimed his ashes and took them back to where he was from. Alabama I think. I'm not the best historian for all this information.
traceyh415 1 month ago
@traceyh415 Thanks for answering. I don't know why his story specifically stuck with me so much. No close family and then hooking up with that predator in that apartment. I am glad things went well for Jake for at least a while towards the end. Do you know what the reaction was at the time to the video from the people in it? I wish there was more follow up. You will get tired of answering questions!
Meow116 1 month ago
What a heartbreaking documentary.
Chastrie 2 months ago
im so glad tracey kicked it alice too. they were by far my favs from the film
AllThingsManly 3 months ago 3
Alice was the only person of the five with a good strong attitude and had the best outlook in spite of her young life, so I have to credit her with the most likely to succeed in life... Glad she did good in spite of her beer swilling boyfriend who tries to panhandle for drug money...She must have dumped him off at Tracey's place,
Rittisan 3 months ago
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Wow...I knew Jake ....have not seen or herd from him in 20 years till i saw Black Tar: the dark end....then i found this update.
josephtuohy1 3 months ago
Wow...I knew Jake ....have not seen or herd from him in 20 years till i saw Black Tar: the dark end....then i found this update.
josephtuohy1 3 months ago
@josephtuohy1 Did you know him before or after the period in this video? I think he's the only one in the video who didn't say why he ended up in san francisco and how he got into drugs and I wondered.
Meow116 2 weeks ago
@Meow116 I first met him in 1988, He was picked on by most kids,and was bullied all the time.I took the time to know him, and he had a heart of gold.Saw him from time to time, but didnt really keep up with what was going on with him,then he just disappeared. The story hit me pretty hard, goes to show that anyone is game.I myself battled with addiction,and still survive.
josephtuohy1 2 weeks ago
@josephtuohy1 Why on earth would be be bullied? I don't get it. Where did you/he grow up? Given that he said his mom was an addict, I wondered if that had something to do with him starting heroin, or if she just didn't have the ability to take care of him.
Meow116 2 weeks ago
@Meow116 why? because kids are cruel and mean. Jacob had kinky curly hair and huge ears,they called him baby new year. we grew up in Mobile Alabama.
josephtuohy1 2 weeks ago
@josephtuohy1 well, thanks for responding. I don't know why what happened to him stayed with me so much.
Meow116 2 weeks ago
@Meow116 His name was Jacob Butler.
josephtuohy1 2 weeks ago
Jake looked like an Angel suffering in hell
Sheenious 3 months ago 9
Can't say i feel sorry for any drug addict, there are enough warnings out there, ignore them at your own peril.
ThePetalbluelite 3 months ago
@ThePetalbluelite That's very compassionate of you.
YouAndOpenFlames 3 months ago
I want an update on Spanky.
mnmfreak502 3 months ago
@mnmfreak502 if u think he made it a week past his last clip ur on heroin lol
flashfire320 2 months ago
@flashfire320 I'm actually a recovering heroin addict. But I said that cuz when I seen spanky I couldn't help but pause & laugh. Haha
mnmfreak502 2 months ago
@mnmfreak502 Spanky is very sick and in the hospital and need some positive thoughts
traceyh415 2 months ago
@traceyh415 Thats terrible. Incredibly dope sick ? Or in bad health ? Or both ? How do you know all this ? I know youre Tracy from the vid but do you contact these people personally ? Also I just got busted for heroin posession and I have a felony staring at me in the face. Did you ever get busted with a felony ? If so did it effect things like getting a job ?
mnmfreak502 2 months ago
@mnmfreak502 Yes, I knew all these people personally. SF is a small place 7x7 miles. I had a felony conviction but it hasn't been a barrier getting a job because i primarily have worked in social work settings. i believe somehwere close a quarter of the US population has been arrested so many people m,ake accomodation Alot of places also have expungement or ability to seal your record after a period of time. I never got that done though.
traceyh415 2 months ago
@traceyh415 I live 20 miles west of Cincinnati Ohio in Indiana and I know that Ohio MIGHT do it since its my first charge. But Indiana would laugh in my face if I asked for an expungement.
mnmfreak502 2 months ago
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a blog i wrote published on cnn today in the chart section of health
traceyh415 3 months ago
a blog i wrote published on cnn today in the chat section of health
traceyh415 3 months ago
@traceyh415 Hi Tracey, I put a link to your article in the video description of this video. Thanks for giving us a heads-up to your great article!!!!!
kmrocks69 3 months ago
@kmrocks69 any updates now?
GRAViTYTHR33 2 months ago
@traceyh415 When I was watching this documentary for the first time, I thought "there isn't going to be a happy end for most of these people... it's going to be death by overdose/ aids related death or just decades of awful life on the street". But the one person I thought out of all them who could make it out of that cycle of addiction and survive it was Tracey. And if you're the same Tracey that's in this documentary you're an amazing person. I'm a recovering boozer, but this is something else
SethHesio 1 month ago
@traceyh415, Great job Tracey, you are a continuing source of inspiration!
TheBoxingCannabyte 1 month ago
@traceyh415 I thought it was funny how in your movie both you and your boyfriend scream at someone waiting at your door to go away. Very well timed.
ImoenOfTelengard 1 month ago
@tracey415, do you have any advice for parents with teenagers? I have a 13 year old girl, do you think there is something specific I could do so she doesn't do drugs? I am really scared for her.... thanks and congratulations on your recovery and new life////
tgrazgirl1 3 months ago
@tgrazgirl1 As an addict in recovery ( 11 years now) with my own kids i'm probably about to go through the same as you. I'm pretty damn terrified my kids are going to end up doing the stuff i did.
I plan on taking the harm minimisation route as opposed to zero tolerence, my parents tried zero tolerence on me and it had the opposite effect. I cant really give you much more advice than if they want to do it, were not going to be able to stop them. Educate her, hell show her the hbo special.
Antifaith29 3 months ago
Anyone know what happened to Jessica? She is on my mind and in my prayers. Addiction really does take over people. I never knew how strong a hold it has on people until I watched this.
tgrazgirl1 3 months ago
I don't like how jessica, is having sex without telling her partners about her status. i know a lot of people, but she is putting people lives in danger and possibly already destroyed a few. makes you really think about who your laying in bed with...
X3smileyfaceXD 3 months ago
Wow, Tracey is definitely a strong woman, and so intelligent. I am so glad she got off the heroin and graduated university. So much help can come from people in Tracey's position.
We have to remember not to judge those who take drugs, watching Black Tar Heroin was so disturbing to me , that instead of looking down on drug users, I find I have compassion. We do not know how difficult life is for others until we are in their shoes. God Bless all those in this program
ElleCM2 3 months ago 22
@ElleCM2 The real problem whit drug users is that their self-esteem is really really low. With a little confidence they can stop taking these shit but people make them feel like garbage. You are right, we must not judge them but help them.
rockytheafg 2 months ago
@rockytheafg intolerance with drugs comes from 1930s more or less. people have been using drugs since 4000 BC, and in all the cultures where drugs were tolerated, no addicts existed, very few people died or had damage, and mostly every person using cannabinoids, opium and other things could have a normal, respected and satisfying normal life. now the world put the matter in the way that if you use drugs you are a bad person or you have a problem, but historically drugs are just normality.
fullmetaljaco 2 months ago
@traceyh415 me too im so happy for you congratulations. may god be with you always.
vergealoha25 3 months ago
tracy look like ozzy when he was joung.....:)
wrektalica 4 months ago 2
Spanky kicked his habit and was employed by the CIA to command the task force that took down Osama Bin Laden (shitty bass riff )tuhn tututuhn tunnnnn
Sheenious 4 months ago 7
@Sheenious
lol
KiloByte69 3 months ago
Tracey how did you get to today wow , it a hard road hope ya not no the methadone its hell to get off.
MrFarout88 4 months ago
RiP Jake....wow.
ranae404 4 months ago
Awww Jake rip
7296KAYKAY 4 months ago
sad sad saddd,
DonatellaStar 4 months ago
I have tears in my eyes... :(
reesescupbrandy1 4 months ago
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Im confused why people would come on here to say negative things about drug users. Prescription drug abuse not kills more people than car accidents. Drug and alcohol abuse touch everyone in a very personal way.
traceyh415 4 months ago
Im confused why people would come on here to say negative things about drug users. Prescription drug abuse not kills more people than car accidents. Drug and alcohol abuse touch everyone in a very personal way. I
traceyh415 4 months ago 2
RIP Jake !!!!!!!
italianman004 4 months ago
wow the story about Jake is super sad, hes like amy winehouse, died because of a brokenheart..
yeastu 4 months ago
@yeastu ... No, Amy Winehouse took too much cocaine, like a little girl given a million dollars in a candy store.
Pharenheitz 4 months ago
i hate that about jake, man! i so wanted him 2 succeed in his sober life.
briben116 4 months ago
@briben116 Me too dude. it sucks that he died so young, and so soon after getting clean.
colorfullskittlez 4 months ago
Fuckin' scumbags
orourkeda 5 months ago
@orourkeda Your an ignorant asshole
BoymeetsBass 5 months ago
@BoymeetsBass Fuck off. Junkies are the lowest form of human scum.
orourkeda 5 months ago
Tracey congratulations on getting clean! :) I struggled with the same things you did, it surely wasnt easy but its great to see a success story.
subox245 5 months ago
How sad about Jake. He seems like such a kind soul.
scotchvelo 5 months ago 41
@scotchvelo listen to space needle - never lonely alone and watch jakes full story...you will feel so bad...
flashfire320 2 months ago
@flashfire320 Thanks for the Space Needle suggestion. Where can I find Jake's full story?
scotchvelo 2 months ago
@scotchvelo Jake was clean and sober and going to college in sf with a nice girlfriend. He relapsed and died a short time later. He was a volunteer at Gillman, a good friend. He died about 7 years ago. There were tons of people at his memorial. His death had nothing to do with HIV .
traceyh415 2 months ago
@traceyh415 Thanks for the info, Tracey. I'm glad to see you're doing so well. I hope Jake is resting peacefully.
scotchvelo 2 months ago
i think we can safely say the prostitute gal is dead
dave123c1 5 months ago
@dave123c1 Thats the safest bet of them all
orourkeda 5 months ago
Tracy did, (and still does) have the most incredible blue eyes. I loved her "style" in the early part of the full Doc.
MrMaypole14 5 months ago
I was so scared when Alice showed up, I was afraid if she died or something. She's really cute
Juillardl 5 months ago
@Juillardl
You can check Alice out here on youtube : Strip city promo -where she teaches girls how to poledance.She is the girl with the black mohawk dyed hair.She is 36 years old now,has been clean for more than 10 years,and still visits meetings.Or you can check her on facebook-Malice Mc Munn....she is a stripper,performer,etc...she has her own website where you can pay for her to...show things...anal,vaginal,porn stuff....you know....whatever,she is clean and it is all that matters!:-)
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PharodWormhair 5 months ago
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@wannaknowit Wow. I remember during BTH when Alice was claiming that she could never see herself turn tricks to earn money for drugs; she also claimed that women 'possess a power that men just do not have.' Strip City really puts things in perspective. That's situational irony if there ever was some...
At least she's clean now. And if stripping makes her happy--more power to her. I'd never pay to see someone pole dance but I don't pass judgement on those who do. I bet she makes good money.
PharodWormhair 5 months ago
Tracey is just so superior to anyone that has ever walked the surface of the Earth
ATLjade1 5 months ago
so funny. The movie ended in 1997 when i was 27. It was filmed over the course of 2 1/2 years. I stopped using Feb 27, 1998 a few months shy of my 28 birthday. I WISH this was someone elses life, but alas, that was me. Now, I am 41. Such a long time ago! Im not sure some people realize how long ago this film was made...
traceyh415 6 months ago 2
@traceyh415 you were one of my favorite on the video. i liked oreo too he was so cute. Really depressing documentary especially the girl and guy who became hiv+ they were tragic especially back then when HIV was a very difficult disease to live with much more than today./
TickleMehNancy 5 months ago
@traceyh415,Tracy your such an inspiriation and such a strong women :) !! LOVE YOU !!
kingof206 3 months ago
traceyh415 is not the tracey from the documentary. it is an imposter. on one of traceyh415's posts she says she has been clean for 13 years. the imposter is only 32. the tracey in the documentary is in her 20's. if she had 13 years clean, she would have had to get clean at 19-impossible. imposter, expose urself
Taxi502 6 months ago
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MrTheEvilgerman 6 months ago
@MrTheEvilgerman - u have2cease being a sexist loser. And making jokes where ur the only person who lols. From the sounds of it ur the sort of sad bastard who does it all the time.
Nicktes 6 months ago
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MrTheEvilgerman 6 months ago
@MrTheEvilgerman what are you trying to say i cant read a word of this ,,are you illiterate ,,all i can understand is something about you gassing jews or something
simpleearthling 5 months ago
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MrTheEvilgerman 5 months ago
@traceyh415 I'm glad that you managed to escape without any thing like that. Did you share needles?
rossyboi10 6 months ago
I had Hep c but cleared the virus. They have tested me at least 20 times- I don't have it anymore. i still have the anti-bodies but no virus It really depends on what genotype of hep c you get- some are worse than others. Never got HIV or an STD. I used needle exchange. Its really works. I worked at needle exchange giving out naloxone (generic narcan to addicts to prevent overdoses for many years until i got preg with #1
traceyh415 6 months ago
@traceyh415 did you kick your habit with out contracting a blood borne disease? i.e AIDS,HIV, Hepatitus etc. ?
rossyboi10 6 months ago
yes, I'm fat now. put down the spoon and picked up the fork. Of copurse, i was 119 pounds here and Im 5"8" so anything is going to look fat compared to that.
traceyh415 6 months ago
OREO IS STILL IN THE TL UNLESS HE BACK IN THE PEN
g0tmike 6 months ago
alright its 2011 lets get another update
luckygreen17 6 months ago 58
@luckygreen17 I don't think some of their bodies still exist...
Pharenheitz 4 months ago
Tracey is getting verry fat today, but clean
MrTheEvilgerman 6 months ago
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MrTheEvilgerman 6 months ago
@nWoHallNashHoganSyxx gosh what a silly angry little boy you are.
crapitoutjim 6 months ago
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@invisibleisolation SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU JEWISH NIGGER. HOW ABOUT YOU SLIDE YOUR STINKY STICKY SHITTY PANTIES OFF SO I CAN SLIDE MY INDEX FINGER UP YOUR SMELLY DISCHARGED FRESHLY SHAVEN SNATCH OF YOURS OK. I BET YOUR COOTER IS ACHING FOR A GOOD HARD FUCK, TELL THE TRUTH YOU UGLY SLAB OF JEWISH SHIT.
nWoHallNashHoganSyxx 6 months ago
Can't we block this idiot called @nWoHallNashHoganSyxx as their language and general comments are not just discusting but completely uncalled for.
crapitoutjim 6 months ago
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@crapitoutjim FUCK OFF GIMP BEFORE I BUST YOUR LIP OPEN YOU MOTHERFUCKING PIGTAILED TRANSEXUAL.
nWoHallNashHoganSyxx 6 months ago
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@invisibleisolation MUSLIM SLAB OF SHIT. LET ALLAH FUCK YOU IN YOUR TIGHT SMELLY NIGGER ASS YOU PIECE OF JEWISH MUSLIM SHIT.
nWoHallNashHoganSyxx 6 months ago
@invisibleisolation KEEP SHOOTING HEROIN YOU DRUG ADDICTED JEWISH JUNKIE. I HOPE YOU OVERDOSE TONIGHT.
nWoHallNashHoganSyxx 6 months ago
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@invisibleisolation YOU MOTHERFUCKING JEWISH HEROIN ADDICTED SCUM BAG. I HOPE YOU FUCKING DIE ALONG WITH YOUR STREET PROSTITUTE OF A MOTHER. FUCK THE BOTH OF YOU SCUM FUCKS.
nWoHallNashHoganSyxx 6 months ago
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@invisibleisolation DIRTY FILTHY DRUG ADDICTED JUNKIE, FUCKING DIE YOU JEW.
nWoHallNashHoganSyxx 6 months ago
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@invisibleisolation FUCKING DIE YOU JEW.
nWoHallNashHoganSyxx 6 months ago
@invisibleisolation You're an uneducated heroin addicted street prostitute. Just look at you, you fucking disgust me you Jewish piece of shit. Fucking die.
nWoHallNashHoganSyxx 6 months ago
@invisibleisolation I hope you fucking die you worthless slab of shit. You and your entire Jewish family must die.
nWoHallNashHoganSyxx 6 months ago
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Exactly. I agree with you.
FriXi07 6 months ago
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@invisibleisolation Mentally retarded people who think like you need to die as well. I hope you fucking die.
nWoHallNashHoganSyxx 6 months ago
@invisibleisolation You seriously seem mentally challenged. You need to seek mental help immediatly. Like I was saying, if you don't want to blame the junkies, blame their parents. I'd blame both to be honest. You can't blame the dealer, the users weren't forced at gun point to try drugs. It was their own fucking choice to lead and live the junkie life. Dealers are wrong but junkies are worse. No junkies, no dealers. Think about it you fucking stupid idiot. You uneducated mentally disabled goof.
nWoHallNashHoganSyxx 6 months ago
@invisibleisolation You're a fucking goof. I don't know where i'll be in 5 years? Of course I do you fucking moron, i'll be here in this same house, at the same job i've been at for 8 years, and with my same significant other i've been with since 93. And I will NEVER try any sort of drugs, NEVER. I'm not like you, you fucking scum bag. And you want us to blame the drug dealers and not the users? PMSL ROFL. Funniest shit i've ever heard. If you don't want to blame the junkies, blame their parents
nWoHallNashHoganSyxx 6 months ago
you should find oreo. and jessica :)
TheNichaddox 6 months ago 2
Thank you Tracey for sharing a part of your life that most will never face. It took courage and a deep drive for you to change... you deserve that happy soccer mom life.. enjoy it.. and rejoice in your strength..
Pepi6353 6 months ago
@invisibleisolation i've never done any sort of drugs, never. when i tell people i've never even put a cigarette in my mouth, most don't believe. however, i do drink occasionally. so i don't see the above ever happening to me =) hell, i've never even tried coffee.
nWoHallNashHoganSyxx 6 months ago