WWE buries WCW whenever it gets the opportunity. It did miss far too much. I disagree with Bret Hart being a total bust. His late 98 run was damn good. Also, you focus way too much on the negative: The "Fall" of WCW. You need to understand that WCW changed wrestling forever on Sept. 4. WCW forced the WWF to change; it made wrestling cool and mainstream again. There were issues but up until 1999 I would argue superior to RAW: rawwrestlingrants.blogspot.com.....my show by show history.
they need to just make a JCP dvd.. and it should be done by someone outside.. like world class heroes dvd. ( which i still haven't seen) but it misses out on a lot of stuff you pointed out.. and not to give sting a section when he was one of the thriving forces behind the company when they got rid of Flair was wrong.. I am going trade this dvd in for the Starrcade even though neither has great matches
@TFoundation i wouldnt say in ring wise as in star power and storylines yes. The only how i can say it was a better in ring product was the cruiserweight division. While u had goldberg vs hogan or roddy piper and hogan in the main event u had shawn or steve austin or the rock in the main event. WCW relied on there midcard to take over
I would love to see a DVD of just Jim Crockett Promotions because that was the most entertaining wrestling in the history of the business in my book. That was by far the best part of the DVD. What they didn't talk about is when Turner purchased JCP in late 1988, JCP was still selling out arenas all over the Southeast US. If JCP would have expanded slower, I think they would have eventually won the war. They were more innovative than Bishoff and McMahon ever have been.
Am I the only person that just wants to see Wrestling with a minimum of story lines, tournaments, no.1 contenders, rankings, I know its fake but I want it to seem competitive
They skipped alot on the Monday Night Wars DVD. I think they should put in more late WCW things and what WCW was trying. Your right though, they should make a FULL WCW dvd.
Also,They have blurred the lines between a face and a heel and are trying to clarify them with story lines and shoots and we can see how that is working out. When some one in TNA or WWE figure this out is when you will see wrestling make a come back.
Also,They have blurred the lines between a face and a heel and are trying to clarify them with story lines and shoots and we can see how that is working out. When some one in TNA or WWE figure this out is when you will see wrestling make a come back.
Also,They have blurred the lines between a face and a heel and are trying to clarify them with story lines and shoots and we can see how that is working out. When some one in TNA or WWE figure this out is when you will see wrestling make a come back.
@kpny1961 you have to have a clear bad guy and good guy, there's just so many unwritten rules like you should long and hard before having a heel cleanly win over a face in the main event, yeah sure it could happen in the real world but this is wrestling, all major factions should be heels etc.
Lets face it,wrestling sucks now and lack of any kind of knowledge to what the "fan" wants to see is what killed WCW.
What made wrestling popular was basic " good vs bad" and its that simple. All the high flying moves, shoots , gimmics or girls dressed in lingerie will not bring wrestling back to what it was during the NWO yrs.
Also, they have blurred the lines between a face and a heel and are trying to clarify them with story lines and shoots and we can see how that is working out. When some one in TNA or WWE figure this out is when you will see wrestling make a come back.
Well what happened, Vince Russo, David Arquette, Eric Bischoff, Hulk Hogan, Master P, gimmick matches, anything after 1998 pretty much sucked and killed wcw.
and vince russo killed WCW with matches like viagra on a pole and the hogan vs. jarrett fiasco. when you piss off the fans and don't give them what they want you're doomed to fail
@metalmadness: Hogan wasn't a booker he had creative control but he didn't book matches, that was kevin sullivan. he was main eventing because he put the asses in the seats. I'm sick of people saying he refused to put anybody over he lost to Goldberg, the giant, DDP, sting, kidman, ric flair, and more. he even lost to jay leno. anybody who watched the WCW and not just repeat what they've heard would know that.
So let me ask u dis, u gunna take ur hottest star (Goldberg) take the belt off of him by Nash then a week later, Nash hands Hogan the belt??? That was hogan pulling B.S strings and killed Goldbergs mometum and turned off fans to more WWE
@KingOfRock8887 idk man people were booing Goldberg every night. They needed to get some heat on him. Hell just watch when Nash beats him that crowd goes crazy.
hogan is their biggest you really think vince wants everyone to know about the real hogan & all shit he did in wcw like giving himslefs fat paychecks & booking himself on top no
Good video man, its the first one that I have watched all the way through on this particular topic. I was thinking of buying the DVD, but wasn't sure, this made my decision, thanks
bring it back i mean they brought ecw witch shouldnt bean brought back wcw had way better talent sting , and yes undertaker was in wcw before his wwf days and i agree wwf and wwe are the same there are no differences why ecw is the only one to come back
realy if wwe brings back wcw ,wcw is goin to b shitty just like ecw so let wcw rest in peace or have eric bishop bring back wcw then wcw would b somthin but tna is prolly goin to b the closest to wcw we will ever get like they have xpac and kevin nash in sum shit called "the band" or cover up for "nwo"
I remember when Flair left. It was after I got my GMB tickets in Baltimore where he was supposed to wrestle Lex Luger. The whole crowd chanted "WE WANT FLAIR! WE WANT FLAIR!".
That's when the NWA truly died for me and WCW took off..
Bischoff does not speak in this DVD in new interviews! Thats what sucks, I want to here everything from the man who made it big himself!! not fucking Vince Mcmahon's watered down version.
They totally dropped the ball on this dvd. The doc shouldve went to about 3-4 hours. You thought the doc was bad, the matches they included were terrible. there were other matches that were more deserving to be on this DVD; Rey Mysterio Vs Eddie Guerrero Havoc 97, DDP Vs Randy Savage, Ultimo Dragon vs Dean Malenko (Starrcade 96), War Games 97 just to name a few. Very Disappointing.
Yeah WCW was much better than WWF. Only kids liked WWE because they thought the Attitude era stuff was cool but WCW was more wrestling oriented which was great for people who liked wrestling.
I agree, WCW had the better wrestling to be honest, looking back when the WWF boomed in 98 with Austin and Vince it sucked in my opinion, apart from that Feud, The Rock and The Undertaker everything else was dull, the In-Ring Wrestling was crappy.
I agree, "The Attitude Era wasnt about wrestling. it was just bout sex, violence, blood and other shit, WCW took wrestling more seriously, and ppl act like the attitude era was the best thing and only era in wrestling
Every time I have ever heard Mike Graham talk, he comes across as one of those extremely bitter guys who has an axe to grind and who has a very selective memory.
People this isn't the ECW dvd. If anything, some of you got lucky on that! Now that we've established it can we just move on and actually focus on WCW? lol
Let's not forget The No-Limit Soldiers and the "Rap is Crap" storyline with Hennig and the other redneck cats. You can say what you want about how corny it was, but it was a nice crossover attempt from WCW and made some headlines. Dare I say, Hennig's Country music style song made more news than Jarrett's from WWF. I mean, if that doesn't count for something, I don't know what does. It's still worth mentioning.
Wow I was about to go out and buy this DVD but after watching this I don't think I will. So they skipped out on the Alliance to End Hulkamania AND the Hogan/Sting feud? The whole storyline with Sting vs. the NWO was epic and extremely entertaining. If the WWE won't even acknowledge that then I've lost even more respect for them. And the Alliance to End Hulkamania...I don't think much needs to be said about that other than what you said, it was kind of an old 80s type storyline.
Its too bad that the DVD didn't meet expectations.
I'm not a fan of WCW, but became interested in how a company with many star power in Hogan, Nash, Sting, etc, became a failure and met its demise to the WWE.
I've noticed throughout the years kevin Nash is a jerk all he cares about is his wallet not about making aj better or making Mick foley look like a hardcore legend but just really carting about winning and away being in the top spot and having the highest pay when it comes down to it and it's his gimmick also but he's real asshole
i shoulda waited for ur review b4 i bought this dvd....it felt so incomplete and if i had a webcam or something of that nature to make my youtube uploads easier, i woulda done a review last week. the matches are good, but the documentary portion sucked. i also felt the Jim Crockett portion and the early WCW coulda been explained a bit better, but i got the jist of it.
I haven't seen the dvd but it sounds like somebody wants to pat themselves on the back. It sounds more glorious to fight back and turn the tables on one who is healthy as opposed to turning the tables on a cancer ridden foe.
the Best Buy in my town has three disc WWE dvd's for pretty cheap, I saw the WCW one yesterday for seventeen dollars, and I got the Randy Savage dvd for 11 bucks with a coupon
No he meant WWE 2009. Quit trying to hate on TNA for no reason. WWE is doing abysmal stuff that WCW in 2000 was doing. And TNA right now isn't doing anything abysmal if you've watched the product over the past few weeks. They've been heading in a great direction since they took JJ & Dutch off of the creative team.
u serious, WWE is business, WCW 2000 was nothing but garbage, i know wwe aint like it used to be but comparing WWE to WCW in 2000 where they did a viagra on a pole match is retarded
Man you don't like Hogan do you, and dont get your facts wrong Hogan was getting booed when he left WWF, when he was first in WCW the crowd loved him. Don't let your anti Hogan mindset block the truth. I agree with you 90% of the time but with Hogan I gotta disagree with the concept that he's some monster of wrestling, sucking it's life force.
When he first showed up YES...but then what happend he started getting booed again. Also he was not the savoir of the company like the DVD said he was. Again the skiped most of the BAD stuff when hogan was there.
Until wwe puts aside their various agendas and feuds for the sake of quality dvd's, we will never get the full story on any dvd. They were on a roll there for a while with products like Self Destruction of Ultimate Warrior, Jake Roberts: Pick Your Poison and The Triumph and Tragedy of World Class. Everything that followed those has considerably sucked.
Needed Benoit matches to me. The comments and TS's review makes me not wanna buy the thing. Might as well buy the M.N.W.'s DVD. Cause really the book was good and the shoot interviews with Nash and others who have made one still shyts on this DVD from what people ave projected on here.
Rise and Fall of ECW was a damned good DVD and I expected for WWE to completely shyt on it. Now i'm leery about the Rise and Fall of WCW cause Nash is not there to tell his side of it and I don't think they even contacted Hall for it. Hell is it worth buying?
The Rise and Fall of ECW is way, way, way better than the Rise and Fall of WCW. The WCW documentary was half assed. You'd be better off reading a book about the history of WCW. Read the Death of WCW. I heard it's good.
You want WWE to document unconsqeuntial things? Bad booking happens. If WWE hammered home on it then it would have been stupid as WWE and other promotions have had tons of shit booked over the years. There are however MAJOR booking flaws that are huge turning points for a company. Coal Miners glove was stupid but it was not a turning point like: The finger poke of doom, Bash 2000 shoot, NWO forming, Russo booking,
I also love how people say WWE never takes shots at people and get mad when Borash made the comment about Raw. Yet WWE took a shot at the co-founder of TNA in this dvd. I guess thats different?
Before watching I was worried they were going to bury WCW. Being a huge WCW fan I felt this DVD was for me. Not for wwe fans but for WWE to try and sell a dvd to fans that stopped watching wrestling when wcw ended.
Looking back I think the reason they didnt bury the company is because this company almost killed them. And it looks bad saying:
This company was a piece of shit......but we were worse then them for 64-84? weeks? When we lost the ratings war and almost died because of them
You make some good points Tslay. I still enjoyed the DVD but I think Bishoff refusing to do a new interview for the DVD and just re-using the interview from the Monday Night War DVD hurt the over-all DVD. As far as Hogan goes, if he had not come to WCW in 94 they would have gone under much sooner.
The person who made this DVD was too concerned with not burying WWF - NOT WCW. One of the main reasons that WCW "rose" was due to the WWF being absolutely god awful at the time.
3 squash matches and a Doink main event....that's was Raw used to be.
How on earth did you find that, or anything else that WWF did until about late '97, any good?
You wanna know how awful the WWF was back then? It's easy. Watch the USA network this Monday night at 9pm edt.
I agree with you,but Wrestling is drove Right back In to the 80's again I mean look at it John cena=New Hulk hogan Hornswoggle=The new Doink Familiar Isn't it??
I honestly feel that Disc 2 alone makes this worth the purchase. Full of great matches, plus its got Sting/Luger vs. Steiners from Superbrawl I, which imo is one of the best tag matches Iv ever seen
I hate how WCW now has the reputation of being so bad that nothing good ever came out of it, which isn't true at all IMO (96-97, it was awesome). So obviously, I am very unwilling to pick this DVD up because I just pictured it being a WCW jokefest the entire time.
the rise and fall wcw was a huge failure.... they took most of the material off of the monday night wars dvd and just put it into the rise and fall of wcw dvd.... they didnt talk about the real details, and they skipped way to many important things.
I would say no. The best NWA/WCW matches can be found on the other WCW related DVDs already put out. I get the Starcade DVD for the matches and the Flair DVDs as well.
Oh well..picked this up Tuesday and got it for 5 bucks because I had a gift card. I didnt expect anything great but now I will have to check out that Death Of WCW book. Thanks TSlay.
I thought it was "OMG" through parts of the DVD and it didn't EVEN talk about when NWO beat Rey Mysterio outside in the parking lot. That someone phoned the police from a near by neighborhood thinking a gang WAR was going on...Lol
Also it didn't talk about half the roster being in the NWO cause no one could beat them.
And out of CONTEXT it completely bashed Jeff Jarrett OUT OF nowhere saying he smashed 600+ guitars and couldn't draw a dime. Made no sense... DVD is good but worse than ECW one
The documentary isn't good, its just basically a quick overview. But the matches that I've seen so far on the DVD are pretty damn good. I mean, Flair/Steamboat at Chi-Town for god's sake.
For anyone who doesn't know, Flair vs Steamboat @ Chi-Town Rumble is already out on the Greatest Wrestling Stars of the 80's dvd. I have not seen this new WCW dvd, but from what i'm hearing, Stars of the 80's is more worth your money
i got it because i didnt watch much wcw back in the day and wanted the matches on the 2nd and 3rd disc, the documentary is interesting but its like josh says, its a blown opportunity
i watched the dvd and yes the documentary fucking sucks, just skipping through stuff and relying on old footage of guys like hogan and bishcoff weve heard before, the matches on the dvd are good though
ECW WCW ALLIANCE
paranormalguy77 1 month ago
I agree with you, while this is one of the weakest of the wwe documentaries, but I still like it. Could of had more to do with what you said
gbphilster2004 2 months ago
WWE buries WCW whenever it gets the opportunity. It did miss far too much. I disagree with Bret Hart being a total bust. His late 98 run was damn good. Also, you focus way too much on the negative: The "Fall" of WCW. You need to understand that WCW changed wrestling forever on Sept. 4. WCW forced the WWF to change; it made wrestling cool and mainstream again. There were issues but up until 1999 I would argue superior to RAW: rawwrestlingrants.blogspot.com.....my show by show history.
dukesjude 8 months ago
they need to just make a JCP dvd.. and it should be done by someone outside.. like world class heroes dvd. ( which i still haven't seen) but it misses out on a lot of stuff you pointed out.. and not to give sting a section when he was one of the thriving forces behind the company when they got rid of Flair was wrong.. I am going trade this dvd in for the Starrcade even though neither has great matches
schooldaze21 10 months ago
@TFoundation i wouldnt say in ring wise as in star power and storylines yes. The only how i can say it was a better in ring product was the cruiserweight division. While u had goldberg vs hogan or roddy piper and hogan in the main event u had shawn or steve austin or the rock in the main event. WCW relied on there midcard to take over
WadaTrey 11 months ago
I would love to see a DVD of just Jim Crockett Promotions because that was the most entertaining wrestling in the history of the business in my book. That was by far the best part of the DVD. What they didn't talk about is when Turner purchased JCP in late 1988, JCP was still selling out arenas all over the Southeast US. If JCP would have expanded slower, I think they would have eventually won the war. They were more innovative than Bishoff and McMahon ever have been.
bull864 1 year ago
Now quick question did you have a cold when you made this video or were you on coke? just a quick question just wondering.
swsanders 1 year ago
WCW>>>>>>>>>WWE
hustleking17 1 year ago
WCW had the better in ring athleticism and wrestling. WWF just had better entertainment and showmanship.
hustleking17 1 year ago
Am I the only person that just wants to see Wrestling with a minimum of story lines, tournaments, no.1 contenders, rankings, I know its fake but I want it to seem competitive
blakdust3 1 year ago 3
They skipped alot on the Monday Night Wars DVD. I think they should put in more late WCW things and what WCW was trying. Your right though, they should make a FULL WCW dvd.
FRANKS92 1 year ago
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Also,They have blurred the lines between a face and a heel and are trying to clarify them with story lines and shoots and we can see how that is working out. When some one in TNA or WWE figure this out is when you will see wrestling make a come back.
kpny1961 1 year ago
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Also,They have blurred the lines between a face and a heel and are trying to clarify them with story lines and shoots and we can see how that is working out. When some one in TNA or WWE figure this out is when you will see wrestling make a come back.
kpny1961 1 year ago
Also,They have blurred the lines between a face and a heel and are trying to clarify them with story lines and shoots and we can see how that is working out. When some one in TNA or WWE figure this out is when you will see wrestling make a come back.
kpny1961 1 year ago
@kpny1961 you have to have a clear bad guy and good guy, there's just so many unwritten rules like you should long and hard before having a heel cleanly win over a face in the main event, yeah sure it could happen in the real world but this is wrestling, all major factions should be heels etc.
12ozshark 1 year ago
Lets face it,wrestling sucks now and lack of any kind of knowledge to what the "fan" wants to see is what killed WCW.
What made wrestling popular was basic " good vs bad" and its that simple. All the high flying moves, shoots , gimmics or girls dressed in lingerie will not bring wrestling back to what it was during the NWO yrs.
kpny1961 1 year ago
Also, they have blurred the lines between a face and a heel and are trying to clarify them with story lines and shoots and we can see how that is working out. When some one in TNA or WWE figure this out is when you will see wrestling make a come back.
kpny1961 1 year ago
Well what happened, Vince Russo, David Arquette, Eric Bischoff, Hulk Hogan, Master P, gimmick matches, anything after 1998 pretty much sucked and killed wcw.
GekkoStar 1 year ago
damn man... you are always complaining. Have you ever worked in the industry?
fanofbengals 2 years ago
and vince russo killed WCW with matches like viagra on a pole and the hogan vs. jarrett fiasco. when you piss off the fans and don't give them what they want you're doomed to fail
leetexterror 2 years ago
@metalmadness: Hogan wasn't a booker he had creative control but he didn't book matches, that was kevin sullivan. he was main eventing because he put the asses in the seats. I'm sick of people saying he refused to put anybody over he lost to Goldberg, the giant, DDP, sting, kidman, ric flair, and more. he even lost to jay leno. anybody who watched the WCW and not just repeat what they've heard would know that.
leetexterror 2 years ago
@leetexterror
So let me ask u dis, u gunna take ur hottest star (Goldberg) take the belt off of him by Nash then a week later, Nash hands Hogan the belt??? That was hogan pulling B.S strings and killed Goldbergs mometum and turned off fans to more WWE
KingOfRock8887 2 years ago
@KingOfRock8887 idk man people were booing Goldberg every night. They needed to get some heat on him. Hell just watch when Nash beats him that crowd goes crazy.
ak47523 11 months ago
thanks for recommending the death of WCW way more detail it was great
CMmarez 2 years ago
hogan is their biggest you really think vince wants everyone to know about the real hogan & all shit he did in wcw like giving himslefs fat paychecks & booking himself on top no
metalmadness00 2 years ago
i demand a part 2 to this WCW dvd
madant22 2 years ago
Good video man, its the first one that I have watched all the way through on this particular topic. I was thinking of buying the DVD, but wasn't sure, this made my decision, thanks
ResQ198 2 years ago
WWE still kiss Hogan ass by telling then he wasn't respnsible for WCW's death when oblivosly he was
metalmadness00 2 years ago
yeah but sadly we can't do shit cause WWF(won't refer to E) owns the rights to it.
Jose01wwe 2 years ago
bring it back i mean they brought ecw witch shouldnt bean brought back wcw had way better talent sting , and yes undertaker was in wcw before his wwf days and i agree wwf and wwe are the same there are no differences why ecw is the only one to come back
animefanx04 2 years ago
realy if wwe brings back wcw ,wcw is goin to b shitty just like ecw so let wcw rest in peace or have eric bishop bring back wcw then wcw would b somthin but tna is prolly goin to b the closest to wcw we will ever get like they have xpac and kevin nash in sum shit called "the band" or cover up for "nwo"
djmac3005 2 years ago
Your the only person on youtube who actually knows your wrestleing
fisherlibermannutsc 2 years ago 3
I remember when Flair left. It was after I got my GMB tickets in Baltimore where he was supposed to wrestle Lex Luger. The whole crowd chanted "WE WANT FLAIR! WE WANT FLAIR!".
That's when the NWA truly died for me and WCW took off..
Kenro200x 2 years ago 4
are you ever pleased? too negative man, its just wrestling!
Cobretti20001 2 years ago
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haha
I finally saw this. It isn't as bad as some people made it. While, I was never a big WCW fan, it's nice to see what the other side was doing. lol
What's funny is how they blame the celebrity spots. Yet a decade later, WWE's doing the same gimmick.
BeginnningoftheEnd 2 years ago
Also NWO back in Black DVD was a great detailed look into them.
WCW dvd didnt have jack shit. Didnt even mention wolfpac!! WTF? they talked more about Goldberg more then anyone. Fuck that i was pissed
DWAmichigan 2 years ago
they didnt even talk bout sting he was one of the reasons ratings rised
KingOfRock8887 2 years ago 3
This DVD was not that good and they left too much out alot.
mightyblack1 2 years ago
You'll like the book. It's that awesome.
vivalaestero 2 years ago
The Death of WCW book is a great read. It tells the story of WCW in great detail.
vivalaestero 2 years ago
Few years time it will be rise and fall of TNA LOL
paulk360 2 years ago
tru dat.
drewey07 2 years ago
@paulk360
That DVD will not sell. There has to be a rise before the fall.
hustleking17 1 year ago
@paulk360 or just the fall of TNA
inunaruharu 10 months ago
Eric Bischoff's book was better than the DVD.
JudgeValkenheiser 2 years ago
I thought the dvd sucked...I saw most of that footage back when I watched the Monday night wars show.
Kuronji 2 years ago 3
Bischoff does not speak in this DVD in new interviews! Thats what sucks, I want to here everything from the man who made it big himself!! not fucking Vince Mcmahon's watered down version.
Traebo18 2 years ago 13
They totally dropped the ball on this dvd. The doc shouldve went to about 3-4 hours. You thought the doc was bad, the matches they included were terrible. there were other matches that were more deserving to be on this DVD; Rey Mysterio Vs Eddie Guerrero Havoc 97, DDP Vs Randy Savage, Ultimo Dragon vs Dean Malenko (Starrcade 96), War Games 97 just to name a few. Very Disappointing.
allday87 2 years ago 4
Mate theres only sooo much they can shove on a DVD.I thought it was a very good DVD myself.
suckyamomma30 2 years ago
noo..... It's just a DVD about WCW's life-span.
knightruelz 2 years ago
The sports show feeling is what I liked about WCW. It felt like a major league promotion imo.
kob456 2 years ago
Yeah WCW was much better than WWF. Only kids liked WWE because they thought the Attitude era stuff was cool but WCW was more wrestling oriented which was great for people who liked wrestling.
kob456 2 years ago
I agree, WCW had the better wrestling to be honest, looking back when the WWF boomed in 98 with Austin and Vince it sucked in my opinion, apart from that Feud, The Rock and The Undertaker everything else was dull, the In-Ring Wrestling was crappy.
MrPezzzz 2 years ago
WWF had more brawiling than wrestling. WCW had a balanced of both.
24varner 2 years ago 3
@MrPezzzz
I agree, "The Attitude Era wasnt about wrestling. it was just bout sex, violence, blood and other shit, WCW took wrestling more seriously, and ppl act like the attitude era was the best thing and only era in wrestling
KingOfRock8887 2 years ago 5
Yeah it could have been better.
irock4you04 2 years ago
syke im playin waddup ts
pinglatin 2 years ago
the supervirgin is back!!!
pinglatin 2 years ago
Every time I have ever heard Mike Graham talk, he comes across as one of those extremely bitter guys who has an axe to grind and who has a very selective memory.
TNAROHfan 2 years ago
whats the name of the song in the intro?
Juve4Lyfe4Eva 2 years ago
Only 105 mins of documentary?
That is horrible.
shuxion 2 years ago 3
i think they've rather not bash wcw, in fear of losing more fans, and i can also understand that.
kevhey5 2 years ago
i thought the mondaynight wars movie was great and then i saw this and was like this. but ecw was the best.
rkontna 2 years ago
People this isn't the ECW dvd. If anything, some of you got lucky on that! Now that we've established it can we just move on and actually focus on WCW? lol
BeginnningoftheEnd 2 years ago 3
didn't Jarrett try to buy wcw but vince convinced them to sell it to him
K1LLAGAME2 2 years ago
Bischoff tried to and he had a lot of money and some good investors to buy it, however AOL sold it to Vince.
shuxion 2 years ago
getting mine signed signed by nash then selling it on ebay
K1LLAGAME2 2 years ago
Let's not forget The No-Limit Soldiers and the "Rap is Crap" storyline with Hennig and the other redneck cats. You can say what you want about how corny it was, but it was a nice crossover attempt from WCW and made some headlines. Dare I say, Hennig's Country music style song made more news than Jarrett's from WWF. I mean, if that doesn't count for something, I don't know what does. It's still worth mentioning.
abut 2 years ago
bad review..it was a good dvd. truth slayer its time you get a girl friend
DenGual10 2 years ago 3
Why, DenGual10? Because his opinions are different from yours? Idiot.
ReneO93V2 2 years ago
You misspelled *buy in the sidebar.
RDizzle12345 2 years ago
Wow I was about to go out and buy this DVD but after watching this I don't think I will. So they skipped out on the Alliance to End Hulkamania AND the Hogan/Sting feud? The whole storyline with Sting vs. the NWO was epic and extremely entertaining. If the WWE won't even acknowledge that then I've lost even more respect for them. And the Alliance to End Hulkamania...I don't think much needs to be said about that other than what you said, it was kind of an old 80s type storyline.
ShockWave7500 2 years ago 5
I am not sure If I am gonna get the DVD..Is it good? Cuz I like WCW
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y2taner 2 years ago
Its too bad that the DVD didn't meet expectations.
I'm not a fan of WCW, but became interested in how a company with many star power in Hogan, Nash, Sting, etc, became a failure and met its demise to the WWE.
Good review!
hideouszombie 2 years ago 5
The AOL-Time Warner merger, Russo, Bischoff. There were many factors.
godanselmo 2 years ago
I've noticed throughout the years kevin Nash is a jerk all he cares about is his wallet not about making aj better or making Mick foley look like a hardcore legend but just really carting about winning and away being in the top spot and having the highest pay when it comes down to it and it's his gimmick also but he's real asshole
francomafia99 2 years ago 5
i really enjoyed the "Monday Night Wars" DVD and i bought it for fife Australian dollars
TheWrestlingNerds 2 years ago
i shoulda waited for ur review b4 i bought this dvd....it felt so incomplete and if i had a webcam or something of that nature to make my youtube uploads easier, i woulda done a review last week. the matches are good, but the documentary portion sucked. i also felt the Jim Crockett portion and the early WCW coulda been explained a bit better, but i got the jist of it.
bighustle 2 years ago
Despite the controversy, they didn't mention to authentic beef between Kevin Sullivan and Chris Benoit.
worldsuvfun 2 years ago
I haven't seen the dvd but it sounds like somebody wants to pat themselves on the back. It sounds more glorious to fight back and turn the tables on one who is healthy as opposed to turning the tables on a cancer ridden foe.
thisherethatthere 2 years ago
How can you do a dvd about wcw and not include Sting vs Hogan? and they never talked about war games.
The matches were really good though on the other 2 discs. and they did have a war games one
Peej814 2 years ago
thanks, you saved me £20-30
eamonnrko1991 2 years ago
the Best Buy in my town has three disc WWE dvd's for pretty cheap, I saw the WCW one yesterday for seventeen dollars, and I got the Randy Savage dvd for 11 bucks with a coupon
omgwtfbbq34 2 years ago
WWE 2009 = WCW 2000
silverbluejc 2 years ago 10
WOW you meant TNA 2009 right?
TSlay1974 2 years ago
No he meant WWE 2009. Quit trying to hate on TNA for no reason. WWE is doing abysmal stuff that WCW in 2000 was doing. And TNA right now isn't doing anything abysmal if you've watched the product over the past few weeks. They've been heading in a great direction since they took JJ & Dutch off of the creative team.
kob456 2 years ago
@silverbluejc
u serious, WWE is business, WCW 2000 was nothing but garbage, i know wwe aint like it used to be but comparing WWE to WCW in 2000 where they did a viagra on a pole match is retarded
KingOfRock8887 2 years ago
Man you don't like Hogan do you, and dont get your facts wrong Hogan was getting booed when he left WWF, when he was first in WCW the crowd loved him. Don't let your anti Hogan mindset block the truth. I agree with you 90% of the time but with Hogan I gotta disagree with the concept that he's some monster of wrestling, sucking it's life force.
jmg3116 2 years ago 3
When he first showed up YES...but then what happend he started getting booed again. Also he was not the savoir of the company like the DVD said he was. Again the skiped most of the BAD stuff when hogan was there.
TSlay1974 2 years ago
Until wwe puts aside their various agendas and feuds for the sake of quality dvd's, we will never get the full story on any dvd. They were on a roll there for a while with products like Self Destruction of Ultimate Warrior, Jake Roberts: Pick Your Poison and The Triumph and Tragedy of World Class. Everything that followed those has considerably sucked.
CallHimManticore 2 years ago
They also switched production companies so that is part of the problem I think.
TSlay1974 2 years ago
it seems that wwe is half assed about their dvds like they are about their current product
daniel3786 2 years ago 5
Yeah man WWE has gotten lazy because of no competition, it was obviously so much better in the 90's when the WWF was competing with WCW and ECW
omgwtfbbq34 2 years ago
Nash was way more over in wcw then the Giant
jb0609 2 years ago
Thanks to your video, i went ahead and bought the book instead. And I haven't put it down since. Simply witty, and it's not partial to WWF or WCW.
survivorguy91 2 years ago
Needed Benoit matches to me. The comments and TS's review makes me not wanna buy the thing. Might as well buy the M.N.W.'s DVD. Cause really the book was good and the shoot interviews with Nash and others who have made one still shyts on this DVD from what people ave projected on here.
antiembishop07 2 years ago
I cant wait for the Rise and Fall of TNA
Norg1 2 years ago 6
The Rise and Fall of TNA sounds great but for that there first needs to be a rise lol
ThaTopDogg13 2 years ago 9
keep waiting
24varner 2 years ago
WWE = making money off of dead companies.
iceman736626 2 years ago 6
Is this as good or better than the Rise and Fall of ECW?
ricane89 2 years ago
Rise and Fall of ECW was a damned good DVD and I expected for WWE to completely shyt on it. Now i'm leery about the Rise and Fall of WCW cause Nash is not there to tell his side of it and I don't think they even contacted Hall for it. Hell is it worth buying?
antiembishop07 2 years ago 4
@antiembishop07
Don't buy it.
hustleking17 1 year ago
@ricane89
The Rise and Fall of ECW is way, way, way better than the Rise and Fall of WCW. The WCW documentary was half assed. You'd be better off reading a book about the history of WCW. Read the Death of WCW. I heard it's good.
hustleking17 1 year ago
You want WWE to document unconsqeuntial things? Bad booking happens. If WWE hammered home on it then it would have been stupid as WWE and other promotions have had tons of shit booked over the years. There are however MAJOR booking flaws that are huge turning points for a company. Coal Miners glove was stupid but it was not a turning point like: The finger poke of doom, Bash 2000 shoot, NWO forming, Russo booking,
tomsmillion 2 years ago 2
That movie as a film is kinda fun.
As build up it's total shit.
ESWEfounder 2 years ago
Death of WCW is wayyyyyyyyyy better. WWE couldn't do what they wanted on their DVD. But if you can't do a good job dont do it
BigDaddy0207 2 years ago
I also love how people say WWE never takes shots at people and get mad when Borash made the comment about Raw. Yet WWE took a shot at the co-founder of TNA in this dvd. I guess thats different?
xcef2005 2 years ago 4
Before watching I was worried they were going to bury WCW. Being a huge WCW fan I felt this DVD was for me. Not for wwe fans but for WWE to try and sell a dvd to fans that stopped watching wrestling when wcw ended.
Looking back I think the reason they didnt bury the company is because this company almost killed them. And it looks bad saying:
This company was a piece of shit......but we were worse then them for 64-84? weeks? When we lost the ratings war and almost died because of them
xcef2005 2 years ago
You make some good points Tslay. I still enjoyed the DVD but I think Bishoff refusing to do a new interview for the DVD and just re-using the interview from the Monday Night War DVD hurt the over-all DVD. As far as Hogan goes, if he had not come to WCW in 94 they would have gone under much sooner.
chriswarden420 2 years ago
What's it like to be a Giant Faggot?
Just curious
homersimpson943 2 years ago
I hope that's a joke. That movie insults me as a fan of wrestling, and as a fan of films
BVader80 2 years ago
Totally disagree with 4:20
The person who made this DVD was too concerned with not burying WWF - NOT WCW. One of the main reasons that WCW "rose" was due to the WWF being absolutely god awful at the time.
3 squash matches and a Doink main event....that's was Raw used to be.
How on earth did you find that, or anything else that WWF did until about late '97, any good?
You wanna know how awful the WWF was back then? It's easy. Watch the USA network this Monday night at 9pm edt.
sonofsarek 2 years ago 2
lol@ the last part. Exactly. That's what Raw is these days.
BeginnningoftheEnd 2 years ago
I agree with you,but Wrestling is drove Right back In to the 80's again I mean look at it John cena=New Hulk hogan Hornswoggle=The new Doink Familiar Isn't it??
undertakerfan1333 2 years ago
I honestly feel that Disc 2 alone makes this worth the purchase. Full of great matches, plus its got Sting/Luger vs. Steiners from Superbrawl I, which imo is one of the best tag matches Iv ever seen
Criminology187 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The Death Of WCW owns The Rise And Fall of WCW anyday.
AntiheroicObserver 2 years ago
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AntiheroicObserver 2 years ago
Maybe wwe made it to be crap so people wouldnt want to bring back WCW? Did you ever think of that??!?! o.0
jijgfidjidhh 2 years ago
I guess this is another classic example of the book being better than the dvd lol
ststriker 2 years ago
If you got the Monday Night War DVD than theres really nothing new in this DVD.
MattitudeStatus 2 years ago 3
Yeah, as I was watching it I was like "I've already seen this".
LightFincher 2 years ago
the Monday Night War DVD is already biased. why even bother putting this up?
kapengmabula 2 years ago
On Amazon, you can purchase The Death of WCW for $13, and it is eligible for free shipping on orders over $25.
kizzilator 2 years ago
how old is trueslayer?
ryanswrestling19 2 years ago
Too old. Like late 30's.
Fresnos 2 years ago
Is the Monday Night Wars better than this?
jollymanbigboy 2 years ago
yes
Anihero69 2 years ago
"By The Death Of WCW MUCH BETTER!!"
Buy*
mickaelx99 2 years ago
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Supes245 2 years ago
I hate how WCW now has the reputation of being so bad that nothing good ever came out of it, which isn't true at all IMO (96-97, it was awesome). So obviously, I am very unwilling to pick this DVD up because I just pictured it being a WCW jokefest the entire time.
NYG4LIFE123 2 years ago
1hr 40 running time? that sucks
PILKK90 2 years ago
I also thought it was odd that they didn't talk about flair/heard. However they had talked about on the flair and horsemen dvd's what is left to say?
dstnarg 2 years ago
the rise and fall wcw was a huge failure.... they took most of the material off of the monday night wars dvd and just put it into the rise and fall of wcw dvd.... they didnt talk about the real details, and they skipped way to many important things.
BREAKTHECODE2222009 2 years ago
I would say no. The best NWA/WCW matches can be found on the other WCW related DVDs already put out. I get the Starcade DVD for the matches and the Flair DVDs as well.
babyface76 2 years ago
At least WCW can take credit for putting out the best wrestling video game ever - WCW/NWO Revenge. To this day, that trumps any WWE Smackdown game.
babyface76 2 years ago 4
Oh well..picked this up Tuesday and got it for 5 bucks because I had a gift card. I didnt expect anything great but now I will have to check out that Death Of WCW book. Thanks TSlay.
killroy687 2 years ago
There's only one reason to buy the Rise & Fall of WCW...getting the nWo retro t-shirt through WWE Shop.
TrueAgendaSetter 2 years ago
this is why i dont buy dvds that are not wwe related....
LV5454 2 years ago
LOL ya the Coal Miner's Glove Match. That is on my Best of Halloween Havok video
CheesyTater 2 years ago
it's about time the wwe did a dvd on wcw
7karekano 2 years ago
Just shows how much vince hates wcw!!
dannybammy 2 years ago
As bad as WCW Nitro was in 2000-2001, if I was forced to pick between that and the current crap that is WWE Raw I'd still watch Nitro.
babyface76 2 years ago 5
LOL, I think WWE pulled a TNA by having more promos/segments than wrestling.
ReneO93 2 years ago
I thought it was "OMG" through parts of the DVD and it didn't EVEN talk about when NWO beat Rey Mysterio outside in the parking lot. That someone phoned the police from a near by neighborhood thinking a gang WAR was going on...Lol
Also it didn't talk about half the roster being in the NWO cause no one could beat them.
And out of CONTEXT it completely bashed Jeff Jarrett OUT OF nowhere saying he smashed 600+ guitars and couldn't draw a dime. Made no sense... DVD is good but worse than ECW one
Stargate174 2 years ago 5
WHAT YOU...!!!!!!!! going to do BROTHER when WWE can't made a descent DVD???
Stargate174 2 years ago
The documentary isn't good, its just basically a quick overview. But the matches that I've seen so far on the DVD are pretty damn good. I mean, Flair/Steamboat at Chi-Town for god's sake.
AmericanNohbuddy 2 years ago
For anyone who doesn't know, Flair vs Steamboat @ Chi-Town Rumble is already out on the Greatest Wrestling Stars of the 80's dvd. I have not seen this new WCW dvd, but from what i'm hearing, Stars of the 80's is more worth your money
BVader80 2 years ago
I know that but the rest of the matches on disc 2 are pretty damn good.
AmericanNohbuddy 2 years ago
goldberg said jericho's name
CharismaticShredder 2 years ago
Dude Tslay the link you sent...is the book.
Not the DVD?
Xera077 2 years ago
Precisely. That's why he said the book is much better. So you will look in to buying it instead of this disappointing DVD.
Frank15982 2 years ago
what is the best wcw documentary? can anyone help me with this...all i got is monday night wars
thegoldenhero 2 years ago
There are no other documentaries just on WCW, but The Definative Ric Flair Collection is probably the best one to get for a lot of great WCW footage
BVader80 2 years ago
thanks i appreciate this man...
thegoldenhero 2 years ago
i watched it on justin tv last night and its a wwe sugarcoated crap,another childhood memory washed down the drain
Johnbuk12345 2 years ago 4
glad u agree man cos when i did my review i was expecting alot of people to disagree with me
themarcpearson 2 years ago
so should i still still buy it just to waste time?
Y2JFanRJ 2 years ago
Well I'd but it for the matches.
AmericanNohbuddy 2 years ago
i got it because i didnt watch much wcw back in the day and wanted the matches on the 2nd and 3rd disc, the documentary is interesting but its like josh says, its a blown opportunity
themarcpearson 2 years ago
I was gonna get it when it came out then something in me said no. My friend brought it and I knew sting and certain other things would be left out.
mhc12k 2 years ago
is dvd rocks
tylerwwe 2 years ago
I started losing interest when Sting got the big push and then again when Hogan was brought in. IMO, it was at its best in the mid 80s.
nextbigthing 2 years ago
I thought they handled Goldberg really well. I dont know about you if you agree, i just watched their a minute ago.
peterohara1 2 years ago
no they didn't he no sold everything i didnt like it
satdaacmys 2 years ago
well jarrett isnt in the same league as hogan for a start, and we wasnt exactly a young or new guy at the time, i found the dvd depressing
666rocko 2 years ago
i watched the dvd and yes the documentary fucking sucks, just skipping through stuff and relying on old footage of guys like hogan and bishcoff weve heard before, the matches on the dvd are good though
666rocko 2 years ago
If WCW was still around, I could choose between watching Nitro instead of RAW on Monday Night
CesarManiaX 2 years ago