wow, this are samples? And do they have vibrato, crescendo, and things like that since the recording? Or does the software adds it like it adds reverb?
This is outstanding. It's quite amazing how far this technology has come in the last decade or so. The best tech is no good in the hands of someone with no talent, so the fact that you've produced these results is a great credit to you and shows how much talent for this you have. Thanks for sharing.
This is outstanding. It's quite amazing how far this technology has come in the last decade or so. The best tech is no good in the hands of someone with no talent, so the fact that you've produced these results is a great credit to you. Thanks for sharing.
Great job, beautiful tone, color and through it all a precision you don't get to hear a lot in orchestral performance. I also work with VSL so I can appreciate both the effort and attention paid to control over intonation you get from this wonderful tool. I have both orchestral and piano scores of this work, and one day plan to take it on as well. I've heard other attempts at this piece, and yours is by far the most natural sounding. Out-effin-standing!
This is fabulous. If someone told me it was sampled I would not believe it. BEAUTIFUL ,One of the most complex scores in history.Reading it is a major task.How conductors cue the crazy times and divisions of beats I'll never know.U must count like mad. Now I can get serious and compose for brass and woodwinds since I'm a string player and pianists .Life just became lil' bit of heaven! YOUR WORK IS AWESOME>REVELATORY!!! Try Finnissy or Toovey!
j'adore 0:55, where you make the winds simply come to light. <3 Sooo nice. This is astounding. I believe you when you say this is entirely made by hand and machine, but I'll tell you, it's hard!!
I wish I could pay this guy to compose the Spring Rounds on here. :(
Not bad at all. One can still hear a bit of trouble with the highest bassoon notes (higher than treble-c {Tenor's high-C}), and the 1st-violins' tril on their first entry should be a major, not a minor, 2nd. Nonetheless, it's an excellent sound overall - keep working at it. A few more years and I can see that one truly will be extra-hard-pressed to distinguish between a computer using the Vienna-Symphonic Library and a truly top-notch orchestra, even by the best of ears...
it's so amazing how realistic these samplers can sound now. like AMAZING. i have to listen SUPER CRITICALLY before i can even tell, and it would only be something i'm incredibly familiar with, like piano or certain string sounds.
Well this is selling point for VSL! I too thought he was scamming us but then I could tell it was fake in the middle section - the opening is incredibly well done. Mr Daduh59 you know how to midi this stuff.
Absolutely impressive! VSL should pay you for this!
Please tell me, how many man-hours did it take you produce this? Did you use notation software, e.g. Sibelius or Finale, or simply record each instrument using a sequencer?
When you have instruments crescendo are you automating volume or using the velocity crossfade? This blew me away. You have truly done a remarkable job and should be proud. We seem to be entering the age of the rise of the composer and producer and the fall of the session musician.
Thanks! Hearing this wonderful performance of 'The Rite' has made me realize that I should kill myself now. Being a session musician, I could never have reached the glorious heights of this sublime reconstruction in a million years, so I will give up trying. Please could you also sequence the Bach cello suites and the Elgar violin concerto so I can hear where Fournier and Menuhin went wrong. Thanks.
Just looking at 6:16 blows my mind: that you entered all those little sounds one by one, and that even with reverb, your PC doesn't even hiccup during playback. 21st century technology at its finest.
I fell in love with your rendition of the Razumovsky Op 59 #3 Finale over on the VSL website. Did you use portamento to imitate the shift I heard in the 1st violin part roughly 1 min in? Your attention to detail is so wonderful!
Thanks. Yes, in the Beethoven I used various kinds of slides that VSL variously calls Sul, Zigane, Portamento, and Glissando. A few slides were even created with old-fashioned pitch bending.
I'm impressed!!! Did you "humanize" everything by hand, by a computer plug-in, or did you just play in all the MIDI data on the keyboard to start with. If you automated all the data and velocities by hand, then you are a MIDI God!
I honestly don't believe any other library could pull this off as deftly as VSL. Great job Jay!
majin2912 6 months ago
WOW
lagathy 6 months ago
and WOW :D
liketammysaids 6 months ago
bravo bravo well done! :)
liketammysaids 6 months ago
Do you think this program could play pieces like Berio's sequenzae?
mauriceam 10 months ago
wow, this are samples? And do they have vibrato, crescendo, and things like that since the recording? Or does the software adds it like it adds reverb?
NevinJarek 10 months ago
This is outstanding. It's quite amazing how far this technology has come in the last decade or so. The best tech is no good in the hands of someone with no talent, so the fact that you've produced these results is a great credit to you and shows how much talent for this you have. Thanks for sharing.
adam872 11 months ago
This is outstanding. It's quite amazing how far this technology has come in the last decade or so. The best tech is no good in the hands of someone with no talent, so the fact that you've produced these results is a great credit to you. Thanks for sharing.
adam872 11 months ago
just amazing!
leparditas 11 months ago
Well done!!! and great hard work! You probably learned and sharpened so many different skills doing this. Well done!!!
yanizle 11 months ago
i remember the first day i found this. i think about it a lot. its so amazing
amistrymister 1 year ago
i think about the day i first discovered this quite a lot. it's such great.
amistrymister 1 year ago
fichissimo!!!
Vesdrajo 1 year ago
This is beautifully done Mr. Bacal. Bravo! Are you employing the complete Vienna samples or are you using a limited Vienna sample library?
warpold 1 year ago 2
@warpold This uses the complete (well nearly) Vienna sample library.
MrDaduh59 1 year ago
Great job, beautiful tone, color and through it all a precision you don't get to hear a lot in orchestral performance. I also work with VSL so I can appreciate both the effort and attention paid to control over intonation you get from this wonderful tool. I have both orchestral and piano scores of this work, and one day plan to take it on as well. I've heard other attempts at this piece, and yours is by far the most natural sounding. Out-effin-standing!
solotasq 1 year ago
This is fabulous. If someone told me it was sampled I would not believe it. BEAUTIFUL ,One of the most complex scores in history.Reading it is a major task.How conductors cue the crazy times and divisions of beats I'll never know.U must count like mad. Now I can get serious and compose for brass and woodwinds since I'm a string player and pianists .Life just became lil' bit of heaven! YOUR WORK IS AWESOME>REVELATORY!!! Try Finnissy or Toovey!
lovesGenet 1 year ago
j'adore 0:55, where you make the winds simply come to light. <3 Sooo nice. This is astounding. I believe you when you say this is entirely made by hand and machine, but I'll tell you, it's hard!!
I wish I could pay this guy to compose the Spring Rounds on here. :(
meowkie 1 year ago
Not bad at all. One can still hear a bit of trouble with the highest bassoon notes (higher than treble-c {Tenor's high-C}), and the 1st-violins' tril on their first entry should be a major, not a minor, 2nd. Nonetheless, it's an excellent sound overall - keep working at it. A few more years and I can see that one truly will be extra-hard-pressed to distinguish between a computer using the Vienna-Symphonic Library and a truly top-notch orchestra, even by the best of ears...
LJBSasha 1 year ago
Great Job! List the libraries and email me. I want to buy all of them. BTW, I love Stravinsky.
my email is: mulattostudio@yahoo.com
peppersax 1 year ago
O.o It is incredible
rolldito 1 year ago
that's amazing
kevycanavan 1 year ago
it's so amazing how realistic these samplers can sound now. like AMAZING. i have to listen SUPER CRITICALLY before i can even tell, and it would only be something i'm incredibly familiar with, like piano or certain string sounds.
charvinn 1 year ago
What reverberation did you use?
misterodellafede 1 year ago
@misterodellafede
Altiverb
MrDaduh59 1 year ago
I too am impressed at the quality of the sounds and your sequencing. How many hours did it take you to go from score to this finished product?
codeWormCom 1 year ago
@codeWormCom It took me many months of work.
MrDaduh59 1 year ago
It might be real. Man I want this in Midi.
griggle990 1 year ago
Amazingly realistic. Beautifully executed. I want VSL! (Have Kontakt 4's stripped down version on order.)
homersimpsonIV 1 year ago
Just amazing. I had a go at sacrificial dance but then just gave up. Nicely done here.
amistrymister 1 year ago
I need this library AND Hollywood Strings, haha.
mooreentstudios 1 year ago
That's amazing, but if my orchestra played like that, I'd have to order up some red beans and rice by the ton.
sonicpainter 1 year ago
well done
joojoo1234 1 year ago
Well this is selling point for VSL! I too thought he was scamming us but then I could tell it was fake in the middle section - the opening is incredibly well done. Mr Daduh59 you know how to midi this stuff.
joojoo1234 1 year ago
Wow. Thats all I can say. That program is amazing and that arrangement and programming is crazy.
nusouthentertainment 1 year ago
Thats Fake! Thats an orchestra - no library in the world could sound that real!
inspi1212 1 year ago
@inspi1212 This was created entirely using only VSL sample libraries. But I'm glad you liked it well enough to think it's a real orchestra.
MrDaduh59 1 year ago 7
@inspi1212
yeah man... this is real... is VSL! hahaha EQWLSO platinum sound like that too... =D
Atael 1 year ago
It's samples of real people playing, but it's all triggered via MIDI and software instruments. This is the power of VSL. :)
MikeRoePhonicsMusic 11 months ago
Absolutely impressive! VSL should pay you for this!
Please tell me, how many man-hours did it take you produce this? Did you use notation software, e.g. Sibelius or Finale, or simply record each instrument using a sequencer?
Well done!
NNomad 1 year ago
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iRompler 2 years ago
When you have instruments crescendo are you automating volume or using the velocity crossfade? This blew me away. You have truly done a remarkable job and should be proud. We seem to be entering the age of the rise of the composer and producer and the fall of the session musician.
shaunchasin 2 years ago
Sometimes crescendos use volume increase, sometimes velocity crossfade and sometimes the crescendos are built into the samples themselves.
MrDaduh59 2 years ago
Thanks! Hearing this wonderful performance of 'The Rite' has made me realize that I should kill myself now. Being a session musician, I could never have reached the glorious heights of this sublime reconstruction in a million years, so I will give up trying. Please could you also sequence the Bach cello suites and the Elgar violin concerto so I can hear where Fournier and Menuhin went wrong. Thanks.
blimeyyoureabitthick 2 years ago
absolutely amazing! You did have to at least start with a score right?
enduril122 2 years ago
Yes, Dover edition.
MrDaduh59 2 years ago
outstanding work. sounds great!
thedrumbum1990 2 years ago
2:30 --> Uffff, what a work!!!! You are amazing!!
CarlosDjinn 2 years ago
This is shockin'
Great job!
MonosodicGlutamate 2 years ago
Hi Jay, can you please check your inbox/private messages?
classicfan23 2 years ago
Vienna and Garritan seem to to be the best, but are there any other orchestra samples that can work for Sibelius?
PS
I AM FLOORED by your work, you did such an outstanding job with this.
tsunamipanda05 2 years ago
I don't know the answer to your question. If you post your question on the VSL forum I'm sure that someone there will be able to help you.
Best,
Jay
MrDaduh59 2 years ago
This sold me to VSL. I tip my hat to you, sir.
Just looking at 6:16 blows my mind: that you entered all those little sounds one by one, and that even with reverb, your PC doesn't even hiccup during playback. 21st century technology at its finest.
Bravo!
weas89el 2 years ago
Duuuude!! This is totally unfair. I can't afford to buy the VSL samples, and this mockup simply rubs salt in the wound.
Excellent work. I'd love to hear more.
pulamusic 2 years ago 2
Insane!!!!!
Uprightest 2 years ago
Awesome
montezumasrevenge 2 years ago
I fell in love with your rendition of the Razumovsky Op 59 #3 Finale over on the VSL website. Did you use portamento to imitate the shift I heard in the 1st violin part roughly 1 min in? Your attention to detail is so wonderful!
Burgundia1980 2 years ago
Thanks. Yes, in the Beethoven I used various kinds of slides that VSL variously calls Sul, Zigane, Portamento, and Glissando. A few slides were even created with old-fashioned pitch bending.
MrDaduh59 2 years ago
Do you mind if I ask - where are the A and D piccolo Clarinets?
I swear it's the D Clarinet that plays the descending motif at 00:25, and the A Clarinet doubles the Bb Bass Clarinet in chromatic fourths at 00:22.
RogueRotting360 2 years ago
I used the Eb clarinet to approximate the D clarinet and I used the Bb clarinet for the A clarinet.
Best,
Jay
MrDaduh59 2 years ago
Thanks. Also - what's up with that inaudible Eb7 and C8 at 00:19?
RogueRotting360 2 years ago
They are keyswitches for the bass clarinets.
--Jay
MrDaduh59 2 years ago
That is amazing!
downfader2 2 years ago
I'm impressed!!! Did you "humanize" everything by hand, by a computer plug-in, or did you just play in all the MIDI data on the keyboard to start with. If you automated all the data and velocities by hand, then you are a MIDI God!
saladshootavvv 2 years ago
A bit of all three plus I made many adjustments to the tempo track.
MrDaduh59 2 years ago
AWESOME!!! When are we gonna hear the rest?
saladshootavvv 2 years ago
what reverb did you use ? Altiverb ?
denico12 2 years ago
Yes, Altiverb--Todd AO + Mechanics Hall IR's
MrDaduh59 2 years ago
wow
perromanchado 2 years ago
This may sound odd, but my first thought is...Microsoft and Sonar should chip in to buy this video and get it in a commercial pronto.
pickabar 2 years ago
wonderful
rostyderover 2 years ago
Amazing! congrats again Jay!
felliniflex 2 years ago