OLTL - The Kyle and Oliver Story - Dec. 7, 2009 - Part 2

[pirates09rock]

i burst out laughing when John said "we'l get these punks" at 2:45 lmao

[MrAudienceMember]

how nice to do his residency in a boring little sleepy backwater hospital that has only one patient.

Fish was looking a little hurt and ignored there at the end. Him being the only officer capable of finding three gay bashers and bringing them in.

[LoserJunkie]

That's a bit unsettling. Did I miss something or does John McBain think that all gay men somehow know each other?

[PandaLoLzZ]

6:29 FORM OF! ...tammys tampon!

[kklok15]

i like angry oliver, looks sexy

[suerteeterna]

I hate Nick in this episode! He stole them a magic moment. Everything was perfect before Nick. I am starting to think that they don't know how turn off a mobile. Please next time do it, seriously!!!

[tonyinlb]

@suerteeterna i have to agree with you about turning off the cell phones.

[denny0604]

Oh please, dont get jealous Oliver..

[DaBrain930]

Okay, I'm sorry, but I have to call foul. There was an obvious gross-misconduct of the roommate-code: the couch is not the do-it place.

Granted, it was among two of the roommates, but Oliver still lives there too and I don't think he, or any other roomate, would feel comfortable or appreciate having known the couch was the vehicle to make whoopie.

Cris and Layla should've moved their hormones into one of their respective bedrooms.

Not cool guys... not cool.

[chardy2024]

Wahhhh love triangle :(

[ArayKoDahandahanLang]

going back to the old clips, i cant help asking myself why is it that nick and kyle's kiss looks more intense and believable than that of oliver & kyle's kiss? sheeeessssh.

[ZephyrFate]

except, well, the kiss on monday was definitely far more passionate than any kiss between kyle and nick

[bluete21]

I agree. Unfortunately. I would even go as far as to say that Kyle and Nick have more chemistry than Kyle and Oliver. But as the story is not going into this direction I try to see more passion between Kyle and Oliver. And I must say they're getting better. Maybe the actors just needed time to warm up to each other. Also the kisses between Luke and Noah got more passioned with time.

[LaraMcK]

John: It is not going to be like this forever

Oliver: I am not so optimistic

Time is a hard to measure when you are a participant. Oliver can't be optimistic because this was very personal. What John had to say is true too. 10 years ago you wouldnt have seen a gay couple having any PDA's.  1 year ago beating someone because they were gay wouldn't have been considered a hate crime.

Acceptance will happen even if the wait is difficult. I hate being reminded that we arent there yet.

[cmaj129]

I don't think Kyle and Oliver will ever get it on. I think that Kyle will now realize that he really loves Nick and poor Oliver will lose after finally coming out and being with the man he loves. Kyle seems to have forgotten Oliver is there and paying a little too much attention to Nick. I hope it works in reverse but, I'm seeing something else here

[Suzanne78]

Beautiful. I was shocked, but pleasantly so, at how OLTL is approaching the Kish relationship. Yes, their scenes have been interrupted, but I feel it's a function of gradually leading the more conservative audience to accept the idea of two men falling in love and being romantic with each other.

I like how we're seeing their "first love" stages unfold too, despite the fact that they were in a relationship in college. Brilliant work, OLTL--I called the comment line to give my support.

[sugardaddyification]

ooohhh men

now i dont know who to feel sorry for

oliver or nick

[XenoIncognitos]

Typical... the heteros can get hot and heavy and the gay guys barely make it past kissing with their clothes on... :(

[kwraikarn]

Thanks for the Cayla scenes!

[mycatfox]

I really hate comparisons but I think Kish is nowadays the most daring and realistic American soap opera gay storyline by far...

It was upsetting that the very promising sex scene was interrupted (though the excuse was credible and understandable, no bull shit), but I think the hot scene was more like a teasing. The next time will be for real, and there won't be interruptions whatsoever...

Thanks Anthony!

[skyemcleod1]

lol Bravo tv should also do a soap! They'd show the others how/ ok- I do feel sorry for Oliver! Poor thing,watching his bf comforting another man,on the night of their dream date :( That's tough.

[ahmad123987]

I love Nick always have and always will!

[GFGirl27]

Oh i'm so with you here:) he is such a hottie!

and take into account that Scott Evans (Oliver) and Nicolas Rodriguez (Nick) are both gay in real life and single they would be a very hot couple,lol

[ftlaudcarl]

Call ABC and Disney or write a letter and tell them how disgusting their banning of Adam Lambert is: ABC, Inc. Attn: Anne Sweeney, President Disney-ABC Television Group 77 W. 66th St. New York, NY 10023 Direct Line to Anne Sweeney: 212-456-6019 (Thank you Darren Gomez!) Switchboard: 212-456-7777 Fax: 212-456-1424 The Walt Disney Company Robert Iger, President & CEO 500 S. Buena Vista St. Burbank, CA 91521 Phone: 818-560-1000 Fax: 818-560-1930

[ftlaudcarl]

Join the facebook group "Boycott ABC Until the Adam Lambert Ban is Lifted".

[ftlaudcarl]

While I do love this OLTL storyline I believe that instead of writing to ABC to tell them how wonderful they are we should be writing to them to tell them how disgusting they are for their blatant, homophobic witch hunt of Adam Lambert, a real homosexual person... Why is Kyle and Oliver making out in bed any more tolerable than what Adam did and how long do you think it will be before ABC gets 1,500 complaints from the bible thumping homophobes and they are banned too??

[justlifeacoustic]

i see you point and i totally agree but abc got the backlash from the fcc and the FCC is the fcc you cant mess with them...it is fair but sometimes the corps dont have a choice cuz of who is paying their bills....BUT I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!!!

[ftlaudcarl]

I believe that is a lie that Disney/ABC is hiding behind justlifeacoustic. No pressure from the FCC. They don't monitor shows after 10PM and Adam performed at almost 11PM.

[PlatypusRising55]

Viewers can do both.

OLTL producers did not ban Adam from ABC. Like Jimmy Kimmel who stated HE did not want Adam to be canceled, the producers of OLTL are not responsible for Adam being blackballed.

The responsible thing to do as viewers is to praise people who are doing the right thing AND criticize the people who are not. It's not all or nothing.

Change takes work and happens in stages.

Barbara Walters openly stated that she disagreed with banning Adam (as did Whoopi Goldberg).

[ftlaudcarl]

Yes, Platypus, viewers can do both. Just last night my comment was on what a good job OLTL is doing with this storyline, but that has nothing to do with Diney/ABC who deserve no praise and OLTL is on ABC. Not banning Adam for doing the same as heteros have done requires no work. It just requires backbone and fairness and Disney/ABC is lacking in both.

[ftlaudcarl]

But you know Platypus, I do find your timing odd. At the same time that ABC is being called out for their blatant homophic banning of Adam Lambert by bloggers, newspapers, etc. you are calling for OLTL viewers to praise them. One might think you are trying to counteract the negative publicity they so rightly deserve... BTW, since viewers can do both, did you also write to ABC to protest the ban on Adam Lambert?

[tihkon2]

ftlaudcarl,

Originally after the American Music Awards performance, they cancelled all his future appearances on their network. BUT as of last Friday, December 4th, it was announced, (First by Adam himself by the way) that he would be appearing on Dec. 10th on "The View" on ABC. So I guess that ban got partialy lifted pretty quickly. The only thing I know of that he won't be appearing on is Dick Clark's Rockin' New Years Eve. And I ain't boycotting them for that.

[ftlaudcarl]

Yeah tihkon2, but no... The appearance on the view is taped when the view is a live show. It is an ingenuine gesture by ABC to ease the pressure that is being put on them. He was also scheduled to perform on Jimmy Kimmel Live and NYRE and both of those were canceled. What does that mean when you say that the only thing you know of thatt he won't be performing on is NYRE and you aint boycotting them for that?

[tihkon2]

ftlaudcarl,

Adam himself tweeted about "the View" appearance. I know it's not live as he has another engagement that day. But I gathered that it was taped AFTER the "ban".

re: NYRE

Dick Clark owns that show. Just like he owns the AMA's. So, maybe Dick doesn't want Adam on. And that's his right. People say this is all about the kiss, but I'm thinking it's more about the face in crotch thing myself... And since I really don't believe this is a gay rights issue, I'll stop commenting on it.

[ftlaudcarl]

Well tihkon2... If you say it is not a gay rights issue then it must be true. LOL There are a lot of people, bloggers, newspapers, etc. that have a different opinion, including me...

[PlatypusRising55]

You really need to figure out how to direct your anger at the Corps who control these networks and shows and not take it out on other folks who came to this channel to watch OLTL and the KISH storyline.

Whatever people do or don't feel about what happened to Adam Lambert, this isn't the place for that kind of discussion.

It's one thing to SUGGEST that folks take a particular action (in an encouraging and informative manner) it's another to berate people for not agreeing with your opinion.

[PlatypusRising55]

You are incredibly presumptuous and rude.

There is no need to lash out at strangers because you feel powerless. I am 1 of Adam Lambert's biggest fans and have been since note #1 on A.l. I'm simply not a reactionary. I believe in being focused with a clear direction regarding protests. I have been JUST AS vigilant about contacting ABC/Disney and GLAAD regarding the "ban".

This isn't the Adam Lambert show. Out of respect for OLTL/KISH fans I don't see the need to discuss it further with you.

[ftlaudcarl]

Well Platypus, I tried to stay awake while reading your comments, but you are so boring and long winded, as always, that I could hardly keep my eyes open. To be honest, I really couldn't care less what you or anyone else here thinks of me. I was making a point. While I also like where the Kyle and Oliver storyline is going my opinion is that we should not be asking people to reward ABC for it while they are blatantly discriminating against a real member of our community.  Period. GO ADAM!!!!

[camus81]

I think Scott Evans is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO sexy... wowo..... does he have a fan page?? or something like? best regard from Peru!

[jwsm2]

very interested in the stories that OLTL has done the last couple of months.Kyle & Oliver starting to make love was really nice and the same-sex marriage story and now Nick with the hate crime.very happy thatan american soap can be so bold.don't watch ATWT anymore.

[jlhva09]

I've really enjoyed this story since I discovered it recently. I started watching Luke and Noah on ATWT months ago and I just wish they would get scenes like some of the one Kyle and Oliver have had.

[Nikedawg]

I'm just glad they showed what they did with Oliver and Kyle, I thought it was A LOT more romantic / passionate then anything I've seen on a soap (American anyways).

I feel sorry for Oliver because I know hes jealous but he really shouldn't be, I think Kyle is just worried about Nick in a friend way. If one of my friends got the crap beat out of them I'd be by their bed.

[PlatypusRising55]

Please contact ABC/OLTL and tell them how much you support these actors and the K'NISH storyline.

Counteract the homophobes.

EMAIL

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OR

Brian Frons - President, ABC Daytime - brian[dot]frons[at]abc[dot]com

CALL IN US

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[z6mrocker]

as bad as gay bashing is, some countries perform public executions of people even thought to be gay!!! A father killed his son and was released from prison after authorities found out that he killed his son since he was gay! He personally executed his son and was released. Discrimination is all around the globe, however, the degree of savarity varies.. and recover and getting over racism and discrimnation will not be seen in our life time, since it will take a couple of hundred years.

[GFGirl27]

It's so obvious that Nick still loves Kyle,who could blame him for that?and obvious Kyle still cares about Nick,i think Nick did the right thing called Kyle,doesn't he deserve some sympathy and care after terrible attack? it's could happens to Kyle or Oliver,they have to support each other.Of course there is more than that,and i think writers build up kinda situation when Kyle gonna torn between two men, no doubts Oliver is love of Kyle's life,but Nick is so damn gorgeous! Kyle is lucky guy,lol

[PlatypusRising55]

I don't think Nick could have reached Amelia at the jail. They would have confiscated her phone before she went in to visit Dorian and the phone would most likely be turned off. I think that's be normal procedure even in a small precinct.

I think Nick was correct to call Kyle. He could have been killed. I'm sure he's traumatized.

It was a brutal beating.

Even if Nick still wants to be with Kyle, Kyle still has free will.

Kyle only has eyes for Oliver.

I don't think KISH is in any trouble.

[velwal]

well.... atleast some people are getting some sexy time.

MEH

[faindt]

In the Video at the End you can read "One Live to Live". I thought it was "One Life To Live"... ;)

*just-kidding*

[mppy126]

I'm getting kind of sick of Fish's preachiness. It seems every episode he rants about some profound gay understanding. Still love him but its getting really annoying.

[TheEroopable]

I know we're all upset about Kish.. but can we talk about Cristian and Layla for a minute... that was hot!

[50930]

Oh yeah it was. :D Love them as well <3

[tihkon2]

Who's upset about Kish? I'm not. That was a damned good love scene today. Pretty much more than any other gay couple on American daytime television has ever gotten to show. So I say congratulations to One Life To Live, and obviously, when the boys finally do have sex, we'll get a really hot scene then too.

[fchamagen2008]

am not upset a bit saddened though anyway once they actually do it, it will definitely worth the wait

[PABWECG]

I would have seriously disappointed in both Kyle and Oliver if they COULDN'T put aside their date-stuff to be there for Nick!

My God, this could be them...and he's their friend!

There's nothing more important than friendship.

[jiki5480]

"Who the hell is Mitch Lawrence?"

Indeed...lol

[Gufy7174]

Noooo povero Fish..... Kyle vai da lui!!! Speriamo ch gli autori....

[TheEroopable]

Gli autori di questa storia d'amore ci fa attendere!

[50930]

I love angry Oliver ;) <3 thanks for posting! :D

[eXXXotica]

TY for the vids!

[PlatypusRising55]

SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR KNISH

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[populartoboot]

that's pissed

[populartoboot]

I felt bad for Nick but OMG Kish's first date and possible love making was ruined. What's worst is that Kyle is focusing his attention on Nick and neglecting Oliver.

I was really upset at the end when Oliver was standing outside the hospital room obviously upset and sad and Kyle remained inside the room taking care of and comforting Nick when he should have been outside taking care of and comforting Oliver.

The writers better not break them up or I will really be missed....

[fiamma90]

spero che questo comportamento di Kyle non vada oltre...povero Oliver alla fine è proprio triste ç_ç

[axelnelson]

I don't know why, but I get a kick out of the fact that the sexually experienced one is played by a straight guy, and the nervous one played by a gay dude.  They must have an interesting chemistry on set.

[JBlover200]

@axelnelson i know thats wat i was thinking

[Schlappi]

Oh, so Scott Evans is in fact gay? I'm german, don't really get the news here...^^

[axelnelson]

@Schlappi

Yes. Although, he seems similarly nervous in real life.

[Schlappi]

Aha, interesting.

Do you know him? Or how can you tell? ;-)

[alwaysuseless]

Schlappi, Scott's older brother is also an actor. In an interview in the February 2009 Advocate, his brother said that Scott is gay.

In Deutschland ist Fernsehen besser, nicht wahr?

[Schlappi]

Yepp, I know of Scott's brother but not of the interview you mentioned.

I'm working on becoming an actor myself therefor I can tell you that the generel opinion about German soaps isn't the best.

Genereally speaking it's okay I guess but there's a reason why we import all kinds of American shows from you guys...^^

You been to Germany before? ;-)

[alwaysuseless]

Ja trampte ich um Deutschland, bevor die Berliner Mauer unten kam. Ich möchte zurück eines Tages gehen.

[Schlappi]

Wow, so you've been here a while ago, then! I live in Hamburg, a little further in the north, almost the absolute north of Germany.

Where would you like to go back to if you had the chance? ;-)

[kklok15]

@axelnelson lol so kyle irl is straight? lol xD... well at least im thankful Oliver's gay <3

[lawandorderking]

@axelnelson yeah true point haha. but then again their character histories are completely different making for the current storyline and the guy who plays kyle is very good and convincing.

[JBlover200]

his friend amelia?

why didnt you call ur friend and not kyle when you knew hat they had their first date

[frozenbaby2004]

Exactly. Not like her "wife" is going anywhere in jail. And the straight couple, confused and whatever, get to have sex on their first date, while the Gay couple has romantic "interuptus." Tired that every Gay couple on every daytime American soap can't have a happy bedroom scene.

OLTL writers, you really want to be groundbreaking? Cut out the crap back story-lines and let a couple really be a couple for once.

[PlatypusRising55]

He wouldn't have been able to reach Amelia at the jail. She wouldn't have been allowed to keep her phone on her and it would definitely have been turned off. You can't take electronic devices back into where the cells are to visit a prisoner.

There's no way he could have reached Amelia .

Kyle still cares about Nick but he's in love with Oliver. He already chose Oliver over Nick. I don't think there is anything to worry about.

Nick is a mess, I don't blame him for calling Kyle.

[billydabilly6]

@JBlover200 because he wanted to be a little bitch.

[TLBBPRO1]

aww a bit jealousy there trout? XDD hes so cute

[luisdiaz]

thanks for also posting Chris and Layla's relationship!

[lunahermosa]

ok...i know that nick is a nice guy and everything..but...i really dont like him...i guess its just cause im programed to block anything that gets in the way of Kish...but ugh

[solitude4]

i agree i'm sorry he got attacked and i'm really glad that they caught the thugs but i'm not interested in him at all and I'm

getting tired of there always being a gay

bashing in soap operas when there are gay characters.We had it recently in eastenders and i just thing it is a bit lazy of the writers

[PlatypusRising55]

When people in real life stop getting bashed and/or murdered for being gay (as has happened just this past couple months in New York, Philadelphia and Puerto Rico) then that's when they should stop writing it into storylines about being gay.

Gay bashing, discrimination are an unfortunate fact of life for gay people in most countries (including very liberal countries like Canada and in Europe).

OLTL has showed 3 different gay men with 3 very different experiences of being gay.

That's progress.

[KEN0690]

Ex's are X's for a reason ;-].. Kyle sooo needs to decide which bed he wants to be beside and stick with it.. Yes, sadly, quite aware it is a soap.. opera. Thanks, Anthony ;-)

[turkleton05]

Think Kyle knows he wants to sleep with the fishes, so to speak. ;)

He's just trying to be there for Nick. I don't think OLTL is dumb enough to bring up a needless triangle that already over.

[ETSINTERIORS]

So none of your ex's are friends? I am friends with most of mine. Sometimes people break up because it's the right thing to do-not because they hate each other.

[mimaroon]

thanxxx for your videooo...

[matou2406]

Thanks for the video!! KISH forever!!!!!