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  • I cannot believe these stupid arguments on here. Grow up!

  • This has been proven to be a rock formation many years ago. stop fooling yourselves, religious nutbags

  • @restoremaz ur annazi

    

  • Evangelical Explorers ?!? This should be good.  And they use Carbon Dating !!!

  • A boat at 11000 feet...wow. That must have been one hell of a monsoon, eh?

  • new version: "The Sheep Is Break Down - Noah's Ark in an Ice Cave: Fact or Fiction?" look for it under youtube channel "TravelBeam". Noah's Ark fraud by Parasut and the Chinese NAMI team. Fraud is a felony.

  • There's a much older tale of an ark called the Gilgamesh. In it there's a couple that claim that the Goddess Indra warned them to build an ark. The other Gods wanted to kill all humans. So, I believe in the ark existing, because there are various tales about it, but it does not validate the Bible for me.

  • there's a lot of flood legends because 4K yrs ago ALL civilizations had to live within walking distance of water! DUH!d

  • Now isn't it just fucking hilarious that the same people who say that Carbon dating doesn't work when it shows the world is older than the 10k years allowed by Genesis are the same ones claiming that there's a 4800 year old boat? Irony anyone?

  • @NorthForkFisherman No. There's a reason its wrong. They're using the atmospheric conditions of now to measure items in the antediluvian period. It works up until a certain point before the o-zone layer of the Earth decreased, and the life of men were cut short, and why dinosaurs and giants existed back then, not so far back as science thinks. It also is why they ceased to continue living and other species of plant and animal are smaller.

  • @MrScorn Ah, is that so? You are aware that radioactive decay is a function of the nuclear weak force? And that's only the valence shells of atoms that otherwise come in contact with the "exterior world"? You fail basic physics. Let's cut to that chase shall we? You can't date an ark for a flood that never occurred. End of line. The geology, chemistry, physics, and math of the problem simply rules that out.. This ark thing is simply a sideshow to separate rubes and their cash. Jesus needs cash!

  • @NorthForkFisherman Yes.. I am aware. The world flood would have screwed up carbon dating, as well as the various things to take into account in regards of Cosmic Rays penetrating the atmosphere, and its changes over the years.

  • @MrScorn Er, considering that there never was a global flood, that argument really doesn't carry any weight.

  • @NorthForkFisherman More evidence points towards it, than there is pointing against it.

  • @MrScorn Ah, no. No it doesn't. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you think think there is some particular bit of data that seems to indicate that to you. What might that be? I'm not a geologist, but I do have a very wide background in the sciences and I think we can examine these issues very throughly. Let's keep it just on one subject, the Noachian Flood and proof for or against it.

  • @MrScorn "More evidence points towards it, than there is pointing against it."

    argument from ignorance logical fallacy. There is ZERO evidence supporting a global flood, meanwhile there's a TON of evidence that says it could not have happened. we are certain it couldn't have happened in the past 190 million years.

  • ugh. there's no evidence giants existed. scientists are WELL AWARE of what the atmospheric conditions were back then.

  • The deluge happened 13,000 years ago... not 4,800. There are other writings other than the Bible you know... The Bible is merely filtered versions of old writings, the Epic of Gilgamesh and such...

  • @freiermann7 True, but only the biblical Ark's dimensions were found to be optimal for stability, seaworthiness, and economy of construction effort. Based on it's dimensions given in the epic, Gilgamesh's ark would have rolled around (top over bottom) in the sea. This was confirmed by a SECULAR Korean naval architecture firm.

  • @bellhog246 Utnapishtim's boat was 120 cubits (270 - 300 ft.) with 6 decks, and deep, almost square rather than long like a modern ship. It was more of a submarine, which would make sense considering what was to happen... It was called a sulili which is the same Hebrew word used today (soleleth) for submarine... The Sumerian tales were far more detailed than the Bible. The Council of Nicaea stripped everything away. Luckily we still have the older tablets.

  • @freiermann7 Details of a story do not make them more credible. How does the story of an ancient submarine refute the geometric and structural perfection of Noah's Ark?

  • " but only the biblical Ark's dimensions were found to be optimal for stability, seaworthiness, and economy of construction effort"

    ...or so you read on an idiot creationist website. it's bullshit.

  • @lennyhipp "...or so you read on an idiot creationist website. it's bullshit."

    No, friend. It's called science. If the ark was a made-up story, why are it's dimensions so perfect? I think it's telling that the "skeptical" community is so silent on the issue. I guess it's easier to call names...

  • "It's called science"

    little uneducated child, you don't know the meaning of the word science if you think it has anything to do with it!

    "the ark was a made-up story, why are it's dimensions so perfect?"

    you're pretty fucking stupid to be making this claim. a boat as described in the buy bull wouldn't be sea worthy

    "I think it's telling that the "skeptical" community is so silent on the issue"

    they're silent because it was debunked decades ago!

    "it's easier to call names"

    if the shoe fits...

  • @lennyhipp

    Ad hominem attacks aside, can you cite where my evidence was 'debunked'?

  • If its not the ark, so what it is? Bible says about it!

  • The pictures are terrible quality, too close to the objects they are photographing. This was done intentionally so they could make up some BS. Religious people are so gullible, they'll believe anything if they think it could lead to proof that they aren't wasting their lives praying to an invisible man in the sky.

  • Noahs ark never existed.

  • @Cainkane1 wrong! the ship found is the excact size and diameter of that in bible.

  • @andymcq2509 Its not a ship. Its a boat shaped rock formaion that was never a ship.

  • if they so sure they found it, why dont they put all the fund to that,.... it might change the whole world

  • @regor200 What you are actually seeing is a boat shaped rock formation that was never an ark in the first uld place. This could very well be the origin or the absurd folk fairytale in the first place.

    Some guy said that there is evidence of the flood but thats just superstitious nonsense. What you are actually seeing is evidence of continental drift which is a provable observable scientific phenomena. Unlike the hogwash you read in Genesis.

  • i know dumb ass!!!! im just curious why they are sure about it!

  • ararat means armenia! ararat belongs to armenia! ararat is armenia!

  • yes it is the real ark it is preserved by iced until it was Discovered by men from the Far East. if its was rested downhill the termite and decay might ruin it. so the Lord keep it there for a Purposed. that it remains intact. So its His will'' for this Generation, to see that the Bible is honest and true in its words. oh Lord thank you for keeping the evidence there uphill.

  • Well either they are lying or there is something weird up there.

  • Noah's Ark has been found on the Turkish-Iranian border, 32 kilometres from Mount Ararat. The site is directly below the mountain of Al Judi, named in the Koran as the Ark's resting place.

  • regardless if it was the ark or not, it's pretty remarkable that a boat of any kind could end up on a 13,000 foot mountain.

  • @solearesoul EUHMMM IMPOSIBLE lol

  • @solearesoul but it wasn't a boat... this has been shown to be a hoax, and they bilked some gullible christians out of hundreds of thousands of dollars

  • No.

  • IF GOD SAID IT THATS THE END OF IT BELIEVE ITS WHAT GOD SAYS NOT MAN.

  • Well, if its not the ark, what is it?

  • @tbursee  town built on the mountain? A monastery built on the mountain? An old farm?

    Occams razor my friend...

  • @tbursee its a boat shaped rock formation. Nothing more.

  • @Cainkane1 on a mountain top 2000 meters high made of wood perfectly in shape.

  • @Cainkane1 srry 4000 meters

  • @tbursee A boat shaped rock formation.

  • @tbursee There are three similar rock formations there. google it and you will find that this is not true. These people are evangelical...they place fiction over facts and science. Noahs ark is just a bible story, there are no facts or evidence to back it up what so ever.

  • Funny how anything that might be evidence to prove the Biblical record brings out all the experts(NOT) and the sceptic know-it-alls who think they have all the answers to the point they reject any other opinion than their own ill informed ones.

  • evangelistic propaganda, totally fabrication..fuckin chinese finally made a fake Noa's ark too..bible doesnt say ark was landed on ararat mountain but it says landed aground somewhere in URARTU..thats the originall word urartu!and water didnt not rise that much ,why would it?storm shouldnt have effected the rest of the world either.

  • @shocktrauma13 yeah, but it rained for 40 daysand the sea rose for 150 days, so it could have affected the land.

  • yea its in the epic of gilghamish and it was local to the region..it didnt kill everybody in the world..it was only noa's people being punished for not believing..and he took his family and their domestic animals aboard that ark/boat..water didnot rise 5000 ft high.flood based on bible,dates back about 5000 years ago,and most of todays races and cultures goes way back beyond that flood..based on that biblical data

  • @jhoujhou123 there's no evidence this ever happened. stop trying to prove the bible by using the buy bull.

  • @shocktrauma13 As a fact, I live in the Mojave Desert in California. Over by Bakersfield,Ca. is "Sharktooth Mountain" full of Shark's teeth. We have sea shells on our mountain sides by Littlerock, California. I guess the Skarks walked over 100 miles from the Pacific Ocean to die there. We are at a 2700 ft. elevation. We Evangelistic Christians may not be as smart as you but we are happy believing as we do. Make your choices wisely. We see you as a victim of the "System". Go in Peace.

  • @sandrifter oh pls..you all are the "system"..and what you are saying is nothing about the Noas flood.. totally irrelevant..im sorry to break it to you this way..

  • @sandrifter Those fossils of sea creatures are there because of continental drift . Everything above sea level was once under water and vice versa. Continental drift is a scientifically proven phenomena. No worldwide flood ever happened.

    Incidentally' there is no god.

  • @Cainkane1 proof is everywhere of a worldwide flood,also proof of GOD is also everywhere! we live in an intelligent creation,knowledge does not come from a meaningless so called bigbang,evolution and bigbang are still theorys,never provern.

  • @Cainkane1 It's proven, so we as man have witnessed this? Wow we must have been around for millions of years.

  • @Cainkane1 Also, there are tablets that have been found that are older than the bible, that tell this same story. Made of stone. Wow, you modern scientists with your theoretical science, who needs applied science when you can just guess lol.

  • @Iwasfreeonce - I think I'm agreeing with you on this one. lol. I don't like that scientists put "confirmed" dates on things because if something older is ever found, they can collapse whatever they previously found. Scientists and others then can try to discredit the findings. If you take away the timing... which we should all know doesn't always pan out, and pay attention to the details, people can see the similarities to a "T". The length, the levels, the location all match up. Coincidence?

  • @Iwasfreeonce -I think I'm agreeing with you on this one. lol. I don't like that scientists put "confirmed" dates on things because if something older is ever found, they can collapse whatever they previously found. Scientists and others then can try to discredit the findings. If you take away the timing... which we should all know doesn't always pan out, and pay attention to the details, people can see the similarities to a "T". The length, the levels, the location all match up. Coincidence?

  • @shocktrauma13 you have to shut up sir stop hating

  • @Guidemysoulallah you shut up bitch!

    

  • @shocktrauma13 NO YOU SHUT UP

  • @Guidemysoulallah you are such an idiot !Who are you to tell me to shut up dumbass!

  • @shocktrauma13 im kidding around i was just reading your comments and your are BIAS, i mean comon. what do you know????? Have you studied RELIGION? stop talking like you know it al, GET OVER IT. TURN TO ISLAM, and find faith in your hearth. An again, please do not bash.

  • @Guidemysoulallah oh now you're kidding around! and yes i have academically studied religion(s) as well as science..And youre telling me to turn to Islam ,it is totally irrelevant to this issue..I didnt say im not a muslim.Kur'an says the ark landed in cudi mountain actually not ararat.

  • very recnt evidence found for proven perodicities at close to 3600 yr + or - for profound environmental changes in these time frames,last period was 1628 bc .google this date and see! Then in roughly 3600 yr intervals 1628 bc,5200bc,

    8800 bc(which is by far the most cataclysmic event in a very long time),next is 12,400bc,16000bc,19,600 bc,The ice samples have been found to indicate a

    likely cause being a comet swarm.It is likely the 8800bc flood(biggest)was the

    Biblical flood....

    .

  • If there really is a huge bargelike structure frozen in a glacier at 11,000 feet on Mt. Arrarat, then let's explore and verify it. If true, how did it get there? This is hard science, not infantile fantasy. Even Darwin would entertain that.

  • If this discovery is verified to be the Ark of Noah, the whole Darwinian basis of modern education will need to come under review. Maybe there really IS a God who judges and punishes sin! This will not be a subject the Ivory Tower elites will glady tackle. Stay tuned...

  • "Maybe there really IS a God who judges and punishes sin! "

    BTW how would the "verification" of Noah's Ark prove that? What is Noah's Ark is real, the global flood, the animals, the nephalin, the whole lot are proved to be true. How does that prove God punishes sin any more that it proves God loves football?

    Don't you see how utterly divorced from reason you are?

    "not a subject the Ivory Tower elites will glady tackle."

    More power to them for not indulging credulous infantalism

  • Q: Has Noah's Ark Been Found on Turkish Mountaintop?

    A: No.

  • @ma049 I am not catholic or Christian but i did go to Catholic school and i know the bible well. The bible says the ark came to rest upon the mountains of Ararat. It's interesting.

  • "The bible says the ark came to rest upon the mountains of Ararat. It's interesting."

    You are acting as if this is some kind of amazing coincidence! These people are finding "Arks" up Mt Ararat because that is where the Bible says it came to rest.

    If the Bible had said it landed in Cape Town these nutters would be calling Table Mountain a fossilised boat. If the bible had said the Ark landed in the Himalyas they would be finding Buddist shines and calling them fragments of ships.

  • "The bible says the ark came to rest upon the mountains of Ararat. It's interesting."

    Interesting only in what it tells us about the human minds capacity for self deception.

  • @ma049 the bible also said u got fucked up the ass on Mount Ararat too. Interesting ;)

  • "the bible also said u got fucked up the ass on Mount Ararat too.""

    Mate I'll take you word for it, when it comes to getting fucking in the ass Catholic school boys know what they are talking about.

  • why would it be IN  a cave?

  • 60 months and counting...tic..tic...tic...

  • I think instead of disassembling the ark, they may have used the ark itself for shelter or some sort of boat of a house possibly?

  • @TheJohnFrum Hello, with respect, I'm wondering why you've chosen to attack me with your "smart aleck" reply? I've said nothing offensive, other than offer an "idea" to those willing to entertain the thought. If you don't share such a thought, that's fine. No sweat off my back either way. However to "speak down" to another person, for their opinion, only says who are, as a person. As I "see" you only as a verbal bully. BTW I don't believe in Santa. But I do believe in a good "fairy tale!" ;-)

  • @TheJohnFrum Respectfully I'd like to keep my age from the general public. However I am of adult age. Why do you ask? :-)

  • If this is true. Then it rested on Mt. Aararat when it was still an island at the time. Because the "waters" had not yet "completely" subsided. Hence Noah & his family would still have to continue living on the ark. Once the waters finally subsided, the "family" would (one would reason) use the wood of the Ark to build other shelter. Not only themselves but for stables for some animals & to burn for cooking etc. Hence I would reasonably assume most of Noah's Ark was disassembled after the flood

  • cool if its true what the hell r we going to do and how will they get it out lets hope god can help lol

  • Floods don't make Distinct layers of Different kinds of rock with different fossils in them.

  • @TheJohnFrum "Allah Akbar" is what you say right before you kill someone.

  • Allah Akbar...tell the bible publishers stop foraging Quranic facts and embedding them in the Bible. PLAGIARISM IS ILLEGAL!!

  • Now all there need is some evidence for a global flood.

  • @gregrutz and this isn't evidence enough?

  • @ARKSOLDIER7 Only if you can prove it is Noah's Ark. You can't.

  • @gregrutz wethe Bible does give us a very accurate plan of how the ark should have been so if they can find the whole thing and measure it accurately it might be the actualy ark

  • @ARKSOLDIER7 It is a bible story, it didn't happen.

  • @gregrutz annd yet here is that boat from that so called story that didn't happen if you catch my drift

  • @ARKSOLDIER7 Prove it.

    Geology proves there was no flood. What is the name of the mud layer with all the dead bodies in it?????

  • @gregrutz and how can you be so sure of that? ugh and i believe it's called the crust or the upper mantle. But even if you say there were no human bodies along dinosaurs doesn't mean anything people did well you know, bury their dead instead of leaving them on the ground and plus if the earth did form as many evolutionists says it does we wouldn't have that many layers in the earth and most of them wouldn't even be that strong

  • @ARKSOLDIER7 How did the bodies get buried in the flood? Shouln't there be a mud layer with all the fossils mixed together? There is not.

    Evolutionists? Geologists study the rocks not Biologists. You people know so little about science you don't even know there are different fields of study.

    Go see the Grand Canyon and count the layers and tell me how they got there.

  • @gregrutz yes but it is still evolutionist scientists that inspired to study the earth and also about the bones of the people who drowned were mixed up because of the flood waters making all those fossils of what were supposed to be evolved apes, oh yeah and that's a new kind of science that's get taken into play also known as chiropractic

  • @ARKSOLDIER7 Geologists knew the earth was old before evolution was accepted. They expected to find preflood, flood mud, then top soil but they didn't find any signs of a flood.

    The fossils are in order NOT mixed up.  There are no bunny fossils with the dinosaur fossils.

  • "yes but it is still evolutionist scientists that inspired to study the earth""

    Erm bollocks. The science of Geology developed seperately from and predates evolutionary biology.

  • either way its not worth arguing about it because theres one God and one truth. its not even worth takeing the risk not to believe. look at it this way if your right and there is no God than you didnt get any where except for dead and in the ground. but if you wrong and there is a God there are two ways it could go you could end up excepting christ and ending up in heavan or not and suffering for eternity in hell. YOUR CHOICE!!

  • I haven't read the last four pages of posts, but, has anyone else noticed the spider web hanging down from the horizontal beam in the center of the first piture, just before the scroll starts?

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  • "Und im siebten Monat, am siebzehnten Tage des Monats, ruhte die Arche auf dem Gebirge Ararat" (Gen 8:4)

    And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat. (Gen. 8:4)

  • One way to help support their claim would be if they found several different types of animal dung, If nothing else it would prove that animals did exist there at one time, I for one would be more convinced if they found that the structure had a hull like shape to it, none the less it is still a very interesting find, one that bears further investigation.

  • @4E047RHH FRAUD !!!!!!!

  • Great videos, but wasn't the Ark grounded only 6000 feet up the mountain? Further more, it was well documented in many cultures regarding a global flood where mountains became valleys and vise versa-So these timbers may not be a boat at all but an old building preserved by the ice. Even if it was the Ark it wouldn't float now, and anyway you can put it under the noses of disbelievers and they'll do what they do best-DISBELIEVE. "The wicked shall see NO SIGN!" Jesus said it not me! Are you ready?

  • Nice video!!

  • Isn't it funny how the religious fanatics will totally deny a rock that predates the bibles stories and that's millions of years old, but when it comes to carbon dating a few chunks of wood the data is irrefutable??

  • I don´t believe it´s Noah´s Ark. I prefer disassembly hypothesis, because after the Flood, the natural resources such as plants, wild animal, metals and others were scarce. Likely Noah disassembled the Ark for using its wood and other materials. In other hand, I think the seeds from the Ark would had been very valuable for genetics improving of farm plants. I farming engineer. Almost all current varieties have defects.

  • same as the day of noah if anyone dun belv

    nobody can force them 2 belv. But the finding

    of the ark is interesting to me so visit my blog!

    TQ

  • Science is always wrong until a religious artifact is found then they come running to science to prove its real lol. nice creepy music though

  • @crockoduckevolved: are you talking about science or about the atheism?. The science is a universal process like sports, arts, economy...

  • Impossible to build? It has been proven that animals can "change" within a sort period of time, given the location and food supply available to the animal and I'm not talking about a fish turning into a frog, which IS impossible. We have many species of spiders, frogs, dogs, cats, horses, bears etc, so Noah would have only needed one pair of spider frog, dog, cat, horse or bear to get the many species we have today. How gullible are You to believe a fish can turn into a frog?

  • @egoPlaymaker - That's exactly right :-) ...or that a frog can turn into a prince, given enough time. What a fairy tale evolution really is!

  • @carstenstampe cool..i ever saw the pumpkin

    turn into carriage and the horse turn into ?? in

    cinderella.

  • @egoPlaymaker : well said and well done.

  • Noah`s Ark is childish nonsense. IMPOSSIBLE to build. Impossible to carry what the bible tells it did. No museum in the world has come close to collect all species . But Noah did this in a few months. How gullible can you get ?

  • I guess You forgot fossils still have carbon-14, its going to take more than wikipedia to prove Your case. So You see, no matter what else You use to try and prove Your fallacy, it still Has carbon-14, which means You have a serious contradiction on Your hands. Next

  • Thx for the upload, great to see it. and it will happen again on 21 may 2011.

  • no what it means is we can date things from a biblical perspective, it doesn't have to be 60,000 years old to be dated from a biblical timeline. If fossils have carbon-14 in them, guess what? Its not older than 60,000 years old, which means fossils are not millions of years old. next

  • @egoPlaymaker You are correct on the dating limits of carbon 14. I guess it is a good thing that we have found so many other elements that have longer half lives that can take us back billions of years (see K-ar dating). Or if you don't like that one you can pick any of the dozens of other elements that they use to date things. So for you to say we can't date fossils because they are older than 60k years is absurd. Wikipedia is a good place for you to start. "Next".

  • if this is the real deal than it's been 2790 years from the great flood to Jesus Christ's birth :) but how long since the begining of times till The great flood?...

  • Ron Wyatt. He found the ark...this video is a hoax!

  • well, simple question. is it a true video or a fake movie ? how to prove this an Ark ? any animal shit ? feather ? how to prove this is a true video ? a dozen of reporters , archaologist , hollywood stars ?

    is it an archaological or religious video ? think there would be more evidences in the uture and more disputes.

  • There does not appear to be any correlation between the still images and the video. Why doesn,t the room with the well defined planks, the beam, and the bench feature in the video? Why does the still image on the groups home web site of "space #7" appear to be a macro close-up of something else (open the image and maximise it to see what I mean).

    At least some of this discovery, as presented to the public, appears to be blatantly false. The group does not respond to email inquiries.

  • Let's see,... A massive wooden structure with walls that conform to the shape of a floating vessel, with construction techniques & carbon-14 dated wood that matches the time period, 4800 years ago.

    In ice and volcanic rock 2000 feet above any known human dwelling, with no body of water nearby. No purpose for the structure can be discerned except rooms that appear to be for keeping animals.

    Gen. 8:4 said, "the ark rested...upon the mountains of Ararat." 15 eyewitnesses agree. Pseudo-science?

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  • @promiskept Amen, promiskept.

  • @promiskept carbon-14 dated wood that matches the time period, 4800 years ago.

    OH now carbon 14 dating is valid...............Must only work on religious dating and is impossibly flawed when dating fossils and rock give me a break.

  • @MrMacnova the half-life of carbon-14 is 5,700 years, and is reliable to date something no longer than 60,000 years. If fossils are millions of years old, you cant date them.

    Fail

  • @egoPlaymaker Ok lets assume we cannot ate anything over 60,000 years old thats still 10x older than the bible thumpers claim it is.

  • The group behind the discovery, "Noah's Ark Ministry International"(挪亞方舟國際事工), is under a Hong Kong evangelical Christian group called "The Media Evangelism Limited"(影音使團). They have a history of spreading Creationist pseudo-science. I have been monitoring them for the past years.

    They are also the operators of the Noahs Ark theme park in Hong Kong.

  • It would be enlightening if it was the real deal. May wait and see.

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