4. Dr. Subramanyam Swami at WAVES'08 - The word 'Dravidian'

[hero1234378]

u are proving your knowledge about dravidians.

[prabavelu]

this are a stupid guess there is a chance for dravidian to be a king

[MrBharath14]

bull-crap..adi-shankara lived in around 730ADs..ashoka rock edicts in 320BCs clearly mentions about sangam n dravidian kingdom in south..get a fuckin life u suckers...

[harish2309]

@MrBharath14 MrBharath, you seem quite knowledgeable from your comments on this video, so can you please tell me who is a "Dravidian". Is Rajnikanth a man with roots in Maharashtra a Dravidian or Vidya Balan from the southermost part of India, a dravidian? See the thing is, South Indians can never be fully called Dravidians and North Indians can never be fully called Aryans.

A dravidian, IMO is a dark-skinned person with caucasian features(big eyes, prominent nose and a non-prognathic mouth)..

[harish2309]

@MrBharath14 Also, most Dravidians are mixed with Weddid(the Original Indian population before Dravidians arrived). Weddid = Blue black skin with Negroid Features. This is the most common population of Southern India.

Northern Indian people are a mixture of Dravidian + Indo European. That is why they are usually lighter and have more caucasoid features. Southern Indian brahmins like this man also fall under this group.

So, now can you tell me what you are? Weddid? Dravidian? Or Indo European?

[MrBharath14]

lets see how long these wuss will supress us..

[MrBharath14]

the whole of 'ramayana' n 'mahabarata' are twisted stuff..every character has meaning...like 'monkey-men' is metaphor for south-indians(aborigins of india),10 heads of ravana for his vast knowledge,why was ram potrayed black?jus a simple reason for ppl to make aborigins to buy their BS...brahmins can twist anything to any extend..now these asshole are out selling our history to northies...

soon their true colors 'll be out...pathetic a-holes...these sacrifice crap is totally borrowed from tamil

[ajvarath]

hahaha..what an idiot swamy is..he don't even know how to speak tamil some 20 yrs ago. However he is giving defination for "dravidan"..

"dravidan" comes from tamil words "Thirai aavidar" meaning "sea rulers". plain and simple. those hundu brahmin chauvanists of india can shove it up their ass..

[arnotkaling]

u got it wrong. sinhalese are not dravidian. dravidian only refers to the indigenous tamils of india, pakistan and bangladesh as well as most of the tamils in S.E.A. The Tamils of Eelam and Maldives are not dravidian

[BoxerMonkey]

are u stupid, eelam tamils not dravidian?

damn you talk alot of shit

[arnotkaling]

now u find a another topic after I whooped your ass on the first. Eelamese are NOT Dravidian, Dravidian MEANS SOUTH INDIA. NOT EELAM.

[BoxerMonkey]

the word dravidian is older then the division of india and sri lanka

[arnotkaling]

no its not. People in India and Sri Lanka only share a common language. Before u know how Tamil langauge was created I would stop typing nonsense and go read a history book.

[BoxerMonkey]

the creation of tamil wasn't documented, the languages is older then all the classical languages that the first documents of history ever arised from, so nobody would be able to read a book about how tamil language was created

[arnotkaling]

Actually it was retard. Go read Skanda Puranam it will say it. Your an ignorant fuck, who comes here trying to be smart only to be taken back to your level.

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

Drav means liquid, Vid means knowledge in Sanskrit.

Its a name used by Marathi Brahmins pertaining to a ritual they use...

Later this name became a designation for all Brahmins south of Vindhya. Thats why Brahmins from South became Pancha Dravida and Dravida became South.

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

Dravidian isn't an ethnic group. "Dravidian" was a term coined by Robert Caldwell to designate with languages found in the South based on SANSKRIT literature. "Dravida" is used to refer to persons from the Southern regions. Its a SANSKRIT word not found in any Tamil literature.

HAHAHA even anti-Brahmins are slaves of Brahmins subconciously.

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

You hold us Brahmins with the same contempt you hold Jews don't you?

[BoxerMonkey]

it is true that sinhalese are mixed with dravidian

they are the combination of to ethnic groups, dravidian heluwe people, and aryan sindhi people, forming sindh hela, sinhala

but the difference between the tamils and sinhalese is that the sinhalese are ruled by aryan's, all the ruling sinhalese parties were of aryan blood, while the tamils were dravidian.

Tamils have a festival in the north where they burn an ephigy of ravana, and sinhalese have a festival where they burn ephigy of ram

[blackkat888]

shut ur mouth u crixtian cunt

[BoxerMonkey]

ehh there's somethin wrong here

u are referring to ravana as a tamil, ravana is of the sinhalese ancestors, he was an Asura, therefore with the aryan's

sinhalese people still retain names like Uderawanna, and Taraka (ravan's brothers name), yet tamil people are always connected with Rama, and Anjaneyan

[arnotkaling]

you are a retard. sinhalese people copy most things from Tamils yet claim it as sinhalese. sinhalese have portugese surnames like peirerer, de silva doesn't meant the portugese copied it from them.

[BoxerMonkey]

you will never find a tamil with the name taraka, or uderawana, or mahaasura

it doesn't line up, we have names like Devar, Mahaveeran, anjaneyan, ramanathan

[arnotkaling]

Sinhalese "language" was only created less than 1000 years ago so how could Ravana be sinhalese? Learn some history! BTW sinhalese like to copy names, especially good sounding names. Sinhalese have names like tenakoon, dissanyake, kumaratunga r u saying Tamils copied these names from sinhalese?

[BoxerMonkey]

tamils don't copy sinhalese

[arnotkaling]

now where did I say that? If u actually read my channel description u would find the opposite was said.

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

Ravana was an evil Brahmin. Like all Brahmins, full of sexual desire. Kidnapping women and raping them if need be.

Only men full of lust and sexual vigour will create Kama Sutra. A book that talks about a Brahmin man having sex with women of men from other races.

Brahmins are evil bro, even the women are. Bad race just like Jews. India must get rid of them by chasing them out.

We cannot assimilate them into our gene pool, its parasitic DNA.

[arnotkaling]

Ravana was both good and bad. Good as he did severe austerities to Shiva and gained his boon. Only after that his pride, power and lust brought his downfall.

[arnotkaling]

I'm a Malaysian and have gone to India many times, and the brahmins there have treated my family very well, and infact most of our friends would be brahmmin. But I've heard of the mistreatment of lower castes by brahmins. Basically they use the ignorance of the others to their advantage. God never said your born a brahmin to perform rituals, but many in this 'caste' have made it an exclusive club , which no one else can enter.

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

"and the brahmins there have treated my family very well"

Brahmins are the most polite of Indians but that doesn't mean they allow a Shudra to eat with them.

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

correct, sinhalese are no true people. they are a bastard mixed up people.

[arnotkaling]

So tell me when Ravana existed? I bet you won't even know the time frame.

[arnotkaling]

You're a Singaporean? You can't fool me you're either a northie or a sinhalese. All your comments prove you're either one, u talk like a typical northie or even a sinhalese as you claim sri lanka is a sinhala land. Who are these paki scientists, these pakis have no brains to make their outstanding claims. The indus valley script is the old Tamil script and how do you explain the existance of Tamil speakers brahui all the way up to Turkmenistan?

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

Theres absolutely no evidence to prove that Indus Valley script was "Dravidian".

[arnotkaling]

I never said Dravidian dumbass.

[arnotkaling]

so you're saying TAMILS AIN'T BRAHMIN? You're an imbicile and a nut. what are you a pariah? ha ha( must be cos, you're jealousy to brahmins).

[BoxerMonkey]

ok idiot, for you to say he was CERTAINLY the tamil emperor of eelam, where are ur cited resources and facts, can you show me something to prove this? for you to say certainly out of something fabricated like that just shows how unintellegent you are.

how can someone who is not tamil be the empereror of a tamil empire, the emperor of the tamil empire was Ellaran

[arnotkaling]

read the ramayanam if u want a resource. Honestly read a little before comming here and typing crap. Then u try and make a statement which requires a factual premise to back it up and . Grow up asshole.

[TanjongTiram]

How can Ravana b a brahmin when he was a ruler of Sri lanka ?

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

amen

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

what are you talking about?

[atd87atd]

omg..wat a huge fuck this guy is

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

south indian brahmins ARE dravidian... I'm a telugu naidu and have family members with blue eyes and olive skin still I'm dravidian... coloured eyes and hair are also a dravidian trait.

[sooriya4utube]

S Swamy is a typical example of those set of people in TN with these standard features.

1. A decent english knowledge

2. No love for Tamil. (In fact they hate Tamil)

3. Having a profound love for Sanskrit

4. Talk like Geeks.. But are perfect comedians

5. Talk like Perfectionist/Conformist. But bribe everyone at every possible situation for their gains

6. Over talk about social injustice but still being the reason for injustice

7. You raise ur voice, they fall on ur feet!!!

Got it???

[dadarocks]

Evee heard of a logical fallacy ad-hominem .. You are clueless can't defend your view point hence the easy route is character assassination

[sooriya4utube]

Heee.. Hee...dear..

He doesnt have a character worth assasination.. I m just saying the fact.. Cant you get it??

Like Goundamani's dialogue, 'Indha moonjiyila acid oothanumaa, erkanavae 7-8 thadava oothinamaadhiri dhaan irukku'

Similarly there is nothing new that I am trying to make a joke out of him.. He is a comedian by himself..

'When S-Swamy is in full swing, full entertainment guaranteed!!!'

[sooriya4utube]

Mr Swamy says Ravana is a Brahmin since he got boon from Shiva.. Silly fellow.. most of who got boon from Shiva are ashuras or dravidans, to put it straight. So he means Nagasura, Kamsan, Bageerathan, Mahabali etc are all Brahmins.. No wonder he is still considered a clown in south India.. Cholas built temples for the Dravidian god Shiva and muruga.. and not for Aryan gods like Rama..

[dadarocks]

Again idiot he didn;t say he is brahmin because he got boon.. ravana is brahmina because his father is brahmin. that boon thing was to suggest he was scholar learned too..

[sooriya4utube]

Dear Dadarocks,

Am I an Idiot, just because I had a diff Opinion????

This is what I call typical Aryan intolerance.. U r a typical example..

Ravana is Aryan.. This easily qualifies for the best joke of all times.. If he is son of a Brahmin he cannnot be RavanaASHURA..

What about the others I told?? Are they all sons of Aryan rishis and Dravidian women??? Sure you have more jokes ahead..

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

rama is no more an aryan god then shiva dickhead. the only dravidian god in hinduism is what ancient indus valler dravidians worshipped as goddess of fertility. the rest are all fabrication of aryan mythology. shivan AND rama are dravidian looking gods. just because north indians prefer vishnavism doesnt make rama an aryan. you're just a shivite advocate. tell me that rama doesnt have dravidian facial features?

[sooriya4utube]

Thala....enna mannichu vittidu..

enakku thala suthudhu...

I am not sure how Rama looks.. May be we should consult Sita or Sugreeva.. May be you know him better by face.. not me..

One thing I am sure..

Subramania swamy is far better...

[sooriya4utube]

subramaniaswamy paavam,.. andha aala edhukku thittara???

[BoxerMonkey]

shiva is the god of dravidians tho, original Saivarism is a dravidian religion, and isn't a form of hinduism really, Vairava, Kalima are all dravidian gods, if you look at the first civilizations, you will see hindu gods were not worshipped, except for the ones i mentioned

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

Yeah sure whatever dalitistan. Rudra is an Aryan god as much as Vishnu.

[BoxerMonkey]

ashuras are not dravidian

[arnotkaling]

dumbass Asuras are a demonic type of people, but still human. Hiraynakasipu one of the first asuras was a dravidian. U want to be intellectually trashed some more?

[BoxerMonkey]

they aren't dravidian

Asuras are of persian origin, the priest of the aryan zorastrian religion, that's why in hinduism, the evil people are the Asura's, and the in there religion, the evil poeple are the Deva's, our gods, and the King of all Deva's is the Devil which is why lord shiva looks alot similar to the western concept of satan

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

asuras means australoid.

[arnotkaling]

Asuras ARE NOT australoid. They are either Tamil or from North British India.

[Gr8Dravidian]

This Subrmaniya Swamy tells last 10 years that Ravanan is a Brahmin. After 10 Years he will say that Ravanan is a Sathirian and After 10 years he will say that Ravanan is a vaishnavan. He wants to confuse people.

[dadarocks]

He is right Ravana's father was certain brahmin sage so he has to be brahmin.. hsi mother was rakshasi..

[sooriya4utube]

Dear Dadarocks..

Thats a nice aryan technique.. to convert all powerful and popular dravidians to Aryans.. If he is Brahmin then you mean all his brothers are brahmins.. All his relatives are brahmins.. so u mean I am an Aryan as well.. You are a 'Mini-SubramaniyaSwamy'.. No doubt..

[rajparadise]

He claims Dravidians are Idiots. It is true that dravidians accepted idiot Ramayan, Mahabharat, stupid Vedas , Bhagavat gita and accepted all idiot idols and idiot Aryan rituals into Tamil land. Therefore Tamils are idiots according to this genious racist Subramanian Swamy.

[parthsna]

He did not say that in any way. He is just against the tamil exclusivity propoganda spread by politicians and correcting the stupid divisive syllabus written by british macaulayists. You still think the cholas made all those temples for jokes? Offcourse you wont understand this if you are say....christian or muslim for some matter.

[rajparadise]

He did say in that sense. However, just to clarify, Cholas built Siva temples to glorify Tamil God and not a Vedic God. Vedic people were just parasites to absorb all dravidian Gods and claim to be their Gods. Vedic God is AGNI and there is no temple for Agni in India. This idiot does'nt know from the where the word Dravidian came from. First he should learn linguistics and history of India.

[sooriya4utube]

Dear raj,

I guess S-Swamy should first visit a psychiatrist and get himself cured.. By the way, the psychiatrist should take enough precautions before admiting this guy..

S-Swamy is the only person in the whole world who can explain, 'How the U.S election results could affect the shape of the Masal Vada at my home?'

Dont talk too much to his Sishyans!!!.. You may get a free ride to Kilpauk for the sin of chatting with them :-)

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

vedic gods are dravidian gods that spread to europe and became greek gods. only sky gods are aryan like indra and vayu.

[dadarocks]

He claims he himself is dravidian shanakaracharya used the word for the first time and he meant by it the fact that he was from souht iindia. he is calling idiot those people who out of ignorance narrowing he meaning of word dravidian and chanign their names to ravana thinking it to be some anti brahmin gesture hardly knkowing the fact that ravana was brahmin

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

thats right why are all these brahmins saying that he's making fun of dravidians. the man in the video is clearly a dravidian.

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

vedas are a dravidian creation. sanksrit is a dravidian language. ramayana and mahabhrata are dravidian epics.

[rajparadise]

Have you got any evidence to prove that Sanskrit is a dravidian language? let me know please

[xXBlackxRebelXx]

sanskrit and dravidian languages had a proto origin. but sanskrit was aryanised with the arrival of iranians to the indus. dravidian language AND sanskrit language are dravidian creations. I'm currently researching it myself.

[dadarocks]

Brothet it has bene rpiven through genomics no aryans came from elsewhere