Stan Brakhage - Preludes - Acid Mothers Temple - Planet of Somnolence

[immonowar]

Porque le meten sonido!!!!!!!

Brakaghe trabajaba sin sonido

[acepeeter]

@immonowar get over it

[hereitgosagain12]

wtf have you done?

[acepeeter]

@hereitgosagain12 shut up, dickface

[hereitgosagain12]

@acepeeter oh, that explains it

[acepeeter]

@hereitgosagain12 errr yeah, i'm slightly bored of people commenting in outrage at what i've done to the almighty stan brakhage's work, all i did was add some colour, patterns and music to it, so it could be used as some visual stimulation whilst using hallucinogenics, i'm not saying i "improved" his work in any way, i just warped it for my own amusement, i don't understand why people get so offended by what i've done to it

[hereitgosagain12]

@acepeeter 1: if you need drugs to enjoy this then i feel sorry for you.

2: if you need this to enjoy drugs, then you havnt took enough.

and 3: ppl get pissed off because it is someones art youre fucking with, if you think his vision isnt good enough for you then go make your own and not rob his

[acepeeter]

@hereitgosagain12 i never said i was improving it, don't be so precious about it, the internet is full of people taking other people's work and playing around with it, i just did it for my own amusement, i don't even particularly give a shit about it, i did it like 3 years ago, and i don't need this to enjoy drugs or visa versa, just fuck off, there's plenty of his films untampered with on youtube and elsewhere for you to watch

[Skraboing649]

Good choice of music to accompany this.



[LOBSTYCLAWS]

Why would you do this to a Brakhage film? You've completely destroyed it.

[u33sun]

This song has some remarkable similarities to Zoviet-France's "Ascending a Fall"

[sairgrace25]

obviously they are a huge part of tripping but, they arent the only reason to do it. I was just trying to say its about the experience as a whole :)

[MsPsycho29]

The sound does not belong to the film. Brakhage said  sound in film is a blind alley.

[juliettelazareth]

brakhage never took lsd. he had problems with his eyes, see.

[mojozeppy]

lovely! Both sound and vision....

[sairgrace25]

LSD tripping isnt about seeing visual things.. its all about what you experience and who you are experiencing it with.

[acepeeter]

@sairgrace25 that's such a stupid thing to say, it clearly is about seeing visual things that aren't there, obviously there's more to it than that, this is just some visual stimulation to watch whilst tripping, it's really not that complicated

[trojanlol]

@sairgrace25 I guess it depends on the dose and the sets and settings too. Visual aren't the whole of the trip but it's commonly reported

[roddymuyank]

some people know shit about what they talk about; surrealism, in this case

@ all the people who start youtube arguments.

[jing479]

This should be on prime time TV - every night.

[saynitso]

ooops didn't mean to multi post, didn't realize it was going up there... but maybe it was Stan's hand pushing that post button. Now I'm sure, he doesn't like this ghost though he may be, even though as an old hipster, personally I see some Postmodernist (however lazy) worth to it. simone lazzeri ellis

[saynitso]

I have to admit that this is beautiful and enhanced by the color and the music, but I knew Stan, and I know for a fact he would be so freakin pissed off that you did this to his work, it would have sent him into an apoplectic fit!! Why don't you make your own meticulously hand painted film, and do this to you own freakin film instead of ripping off the Master who was more upset by such appropriation than you'd ever know. If you must rip off a Master, do Burroughs instead, WSB was cutup King.

[rzbloh]

this is insulting to the original work. The color, music, and cheap imovie effects really don't add anything except dumbing it down to mindless 'psychedelia'.

[saynitso]

@rzbloh I agree. I knew Stan, and I know for a fact he would be so freakin pissed off that you did this to his work,  it would have sent him into an apoplectic fit!! Why don't you make your own meticulously hand painted film, and do this to you own freakin film instead of ripping off the Master who was more upset by such appropriation than you'd ever know. If you must rip off a Master, do Burroughs instead, WSB was cutup King.

[reelden]

Stan Brakhage's movies were always silent. I doubt he would approve of this...but still a trip

[Robtds]

Art does not have to justify itself. 

[Lommy1337]

I really like watching these type of movies

[Apis4]

Is anyone watching this actually aware this doesnt happen when you take LSD, I have been trying to explore experimental film for a while now... but it all seems both obvious and simplistic, as well as pretentious... as if the makers wished to Hi jack the medium, listening to interviews with experimental film makers, or reading those not commited to film, most seem to be slightly unbalanced. This is something.. fine. art? Maybe.. brilliant? People must be stupid, if this is to them, brilliance.

[acepeeter]

@Apis4 it doesn't "happen" when you take LSD, how could it? It's not an event being depicted on screen, its psychedelic imagery set to psychedelic music, which under the influence of hallucinogenics the viewer can appreciate far more, there's nothing pretentious about this, what you see on screen is not intended to convey any particular meaning, its just visual and aural stimulation whilst hallucinating

[leemcdeviant]

@acepeeter You took him out of context. He was making a very valid point. People pretend they know about acid by making up stories of green gremlins etc, but the truth is, it's nothing like most people say it is.

The best example I can think of is that I was at a party and got a 1/4 tab. A bit later, I went to another "party" that only had 3 people. I was smoking outside, and this camp asian came to chat me up. I thought we were on a club dancefloor. I left, the kerb drop felt like 2 feet deep.

[acepeeter]

@leemcdeviant i don't really give a shit

[leemcdeviant]

@acepeeter Which is why you went to such lengths to argue your point.

[Apis4]

@acepeeter Thats the whole point.. making 'pretty picture' with oil in water, thats what this is.. adding some music.. trying to do something.. not sure what.. which expresses something. I find pretnetious and abusive of the medium. I look at Brakhage.. I am sorry..it just make no sense.. the absence of realism in abstraction renders it void as we experience life in 'realist' terms, not surrealist, or abusrudist ones. I dont know, just seems less valid than othe rundergound film...

[Apis4]

@Apis4 I mean early porn, ultra violence.. and unclassfiable mixes of real sex and violence in era's past? Sure.. you can understand them and go on to become Leornard Lake.. to me, if I had to choose between watching a movie called simply 'M-Lady 1' and this? it would be very hard to choose this.. which might be sad indictment upon me, but it would be one of my own making if I had too choose to watch too much of films such as this.

[roddymuyank]

@Apis4

goya said “Fantasy, abandoned by reason, produces impossible monsters; united with it, she is the mother of the arts and the origin of marvels.”

so what is reasonable anyway?

[Apis4]

@roddymuyank OK sure.. but coming from an Artist, idk how valid that is really. Goya does rank amongst the more..valid..artists... painting things which one really should have painted, but few ever did, to me, thats a short list... him and Carvagio, pretty much, were the only two, which links back into this film. Underground sex, ultraviolent, supernatural or subversive films.. true orginal 'underground' film.I get, but his? Ironically Goya's words and art are poles appart, I get his latter...

[Apis4]

@Apis4 ...maybe thats why I dont get this? Is it just me, or most 'experimental' film simplistic? I dont know.. all I know is it strikes me as similar to the early 20thC literary classics.. or so called.. I will use something like To Kill a Mockingbird or Catcher in the Rye since I most recently reread them, how can they be so.. legendary? To me, they are obvious.. simplistically so.. I honestly just cant believe preople are so.. basic.. as to be amazed..provoked..just like Exp. Film.

[pushdontpull1]

why would you make this?

[acepeeter]

@pushdontpull1 It's by Stan Brakhage, look him up. Why does anyone make any type of art? What a stupid, pointless question

[Orf]

@acepeeter

I don't think there's anything wrong with that question. I think he made it because painting on film strip is a good time consuming hobby to distract you from depression.

[VicensStudios]

@acepeeter he was just asking a question man, i asked myself the same thing, what is this?

[acepeeter]

@VicensStudios what does it look like?

[TheNEWfilmfanatic99]

Out of interest, what alum is this song on? I wish to check out more of their music.

[acepeeter]

@TheNEWfilmfanatic99 its off the album called - Do Whatever You Want Do Whatever

[TheNEWfilmfanatic99]

@acepeeter

Thanks. Wikipedia was unhelpful (as usual) :D

[TheNEWfilmfanatic99]

what is the name of the film?

[acepeeter]

its called Preludes by Stan Brakhage

[TheNEWfilmfanatic99]

Woah, did I just trip acid?

[XylenRoberts]

what song by amt is this?

[acepeeter]

its called 'planet of somnolence' from the album Do Whatever You Want Do Whatever

[johnnywoodcrest]

Incredible. I love the subtle changes you've made. Brakhage's films are even better without music, I just mute the AMT and the images create their own music. I do think the music itself is an excellent choice

[RyanWatson]

I love Acid Mothers Temple, and this short film is pretty crazy.