both Kurds and Armenians have lived in van.together in peace for a long time before the disgusting turks came in.we all know van is Armenian its part of our identity as Armenians to say otherwise is blatantly foolish we Armenians have always shared our country with other ethnicity and most of the time in peace even now with others in our country we don't treat people as less than a human because of their ethnicity. no doubt that van is ours but politics and truth don't work well together.
@SultanOfSwords you dumb fuck how can it be if where ever you go you see armenian alphabets or churches cemantarys wath your homes its is all writen in armenian how can it be that the history leads to armenian and no kurt how do you think i dont know kurds i ahev been to van kurds explain why van is armenian eaven kurds explain that can you imagne that explain yerevan tatvan vanadzor van
Wonderful collection of pics and music. I wish Armenians had never made an attempt of treachery in the past, and so these wouldn't have to be buried in pics only.
@cmelan I wish we actually did the 'treachery' you claim. Half of Anatolia would be split between Armenia, Kurdistan and Pontics if you did as we claim if your bullshit stories.
However it seems fairly reasonable to conclude with this, that Armenians were definitely the majority population North of Lake Van for thousands of years. History clearly proves this. But there were probably Kurds who lived there too. I believe in ancient times, our relations were good, in general, so we kind of intermingled to some extent. Also Arabs have nothing to do with Kurds. When Kurds have lived nearby Van for at least 5,000 years, then we have good historical foundations. Peace aper. =)
The Turks fooled the migrant, pastoralist Kurds to kill the sedentary, civil Armenians.
Honest Kurds will admit VAN was the main city--the center of the ARMENIAN NATION -- the Armenian people. They regret how Turks duped them.
Industries, the cat, the architecture, churches, people, homes, the vinyards, all stolen and converted "Turkish" ( food and apricot industry) or thrown into shredders. My mother's parents were orphaned, shredded: one grew up in an orphanage.
I respect Armenians who respect my people, even though we do have conflicts of interests. I won't deny that Armenians have been in Van for thousands of years, they most likely have, but I Kurds have lived there for just as long. Even the Sumerians wrote about a people living in or around Van, this was around 3,000 BC. I'm not saying Armenians don't belong there, just saying I think we've lived in relative peace for ages and both should respect the others historic legitimacy.
@donthakiller That is not true. All records of Kurds before Arab invasions were of areas south of Van. I think there should be a strong Kurdistan but not including our Lake, or our Mountain. Areas like Dykranbyr, Ourfa and such where Kurds were always the dominate culture.
@handsomeboyad How can you say that Kurds didn't live north also? You didn't live then did you? Lake Van and Mount Ararat are in every Kurds heart. Many Kurds are of Armenian descend, so if you look at it that way maybe? Plus there are almost no Armenians left there now anyway. Is it better that 100,000 people get it or 20,000,000 +? I think we should keep Lake Van and Mount Ararat neutral, share it between us both and use it as a boundary or something. Read about The Republic of Ararat bro. =)
@donthakiller lol ararat or van is not kurdish to share kurds many kurds say that i saw a documantary how kurds explain why van is armenia or aratat van is not eaven a kurdish word van tatvan yerevan vanadzor
@MshoSultanKarapet So what? Maybe Van is a word in Kurdish. What do you know? Our name for Ararat is Ciyaye (Chiyaye) Agiri, Ciyaye Alavhat and Gridax (Gridakh). All 3 names are used, but many Kurds simply just use Ararat, the Armenian word. I've already explained my view, Van and Ararat should be used as a uniting element for Kurds and Armenians, not opposite. You're acting like Turks now. They are more busy taking and claiming than sharing. Let's not follow the Turkish model. Hangistitun aper.
@donthakiller lol why share if something belongs to use i told you eaven kurds say that van is armenian van is the real word for van eaven kurds say van becouse its an armenian word van tatvan vanadzor yerevan we are not like turks believe me we armenians have no problem with sharing but this is armenian land see i have no problem with kurds have you went to van the whole city like whole eastern turkey is full of armenian cemantarys churches buildings our alphabet is writen on all houses
@o1OpTiMuS1o what the fuck are you talkign about stop talking nosens they need to slide the throath of all skinheads racist i dont hate jews and i dont like them that much
both Kurds and Armenians have lived in van.together in peace for a long time before the disgusting turks came in.we all know van is Armenian its part of our identity as Armenians to say otherwise is blatantly foolish we Armenians have always shared our country with other ethnicity and most of the time in peace even now with others in our country we don't treat people as less than a human because of their ethnicity. no doubt that van is ours but politics and truth don't work well together.
TheMsAni 1 month ago
Van = WESTERN ARMENIA
818zLilKrazy 1 month ago
Van is Kurdistan. Armenia dont exist
SultanOfSwords 2 months ago
@SultanOfSwords you dumb fuck how can it be if where ever you go you see armenian alphabets or churches cemantarys wath your homes its is all writen in armenian how can it be that the history leads to armenian and no kurt how do you think i dont know kurds i ahev been to van kurds explain why van is armenian eaven kurds explain that can you imagne that explain yerevan tatvan vanadzor van
MshoSultanKarapet 2 months ago
@SultanOfSwords lol kurdistan does not exist loooooool not armenia
MshoSultanKarapet 2 months ago
es ekxexecin atrpatakani hay araqelakan ekxexecin ci atpratakan temi?
arbugoadmin 3 months ago
Wonderful collection of pics and music. I wish Armenians had never made an attempt of treachery in the past, and so these wouldn't have to be buried in pics only.
cmelan 3 months ago
@cmelan I wish we actually did the 'treachery' you claim. Half of Anatolia would be split between Armenia, Kurdistan and Pontics if you did as we claim if your bullshit stories.
handsomeboyad 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
However it seems fairly reasonable to conclude with this, that Armenians were definitely the majority population North of Lake Van for thousands of years. History clearly proves this. But there were probably Kurds who lived there too. I believe in ancient times, our relations were good, in general, so we kind of intermingled to some extent. Also Arabs have nothing to do with Kurds. When Kurds have lived nearby Van for at least 5,000 years, then we have good historical foundations. Peace aper. =)
donthakiller 3 months ago
xzxc1256
aha i see:)
VioletKurdistan 5 months ago
van kaxak nerir mrz chkaroxatsank pahel kez amot mezi
Fedayin1915 5 months ago
Van, Vasbouragan, Hayastan.
The Turks fooled the migrant, pastoralist Kurds to kill the sedentary, civil Armenians.
Honest Kurds will admit VAN was the main city--the center of the ARMENIAN NATION -- the Armenian people. They regret how Turks duped them.
Industries, the cat, the architecture, churches, people, homes, the vinyards, all stolen and converted "Turkish" ( food and apricot industry) or thrown into shredders. My mother's parents were orphaned, shredded: one grew up in an orphanage.
VANArmenya 8 months ago 3
I respect Armenians who respect my people, even though we do have conflicts of interests. I won't deny that Armenians have been in Van for thousands of years, they most likely have, but I Kurds have lived there for just as long. Even the Sumerians wrote about a people living in or around Van, this was around 3,000 BC. I'm not saying Armenians don't belong there, just saying I think we've lived in relative peace for ages and both should respect the others historic legitimacy.
donthakiller 5 months ago
@donthakiller That is not true. All records of Kurds before Arab invasions were of areas south of Van. I think there should be a strong Kurdistan but not including our Lake, or our Mountain. Areas like Dykranbyr, Ourfa and such where Kurds were always the dominate culture.
handsomeboyad 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@handsomeboyad How can you say that Kurds didn't live north also? You didn't live then did you? Lake Van and Mount Ararat are in every Kurds heart. Many Kurds are of Armenian descend, so if you look at it that way maybe? Plus there are almost no Armenians left there now anyway. Is it better that 100,000 people get it or 20,000,000 +? I think we should keep Lake Van and Mount Ararat neutral, share it between us both and use it as a boundary or something. Read about The Republic of Ararat bro. =)
donthakiller 3 months ago
@donthakiller lol ararat or van is not kurdish to share kurds many kurds say that i saw a documantary how kurds explain why van is armenia or aratat van is not eaven a kurdish word van tatvan yerevan vanadzor
MshoSultanKarapet 3 months ago
@MshoSultanKarapet So what? Maybe Van is a word in Kurdish. What do you know? Our name for Ararat is Ciyaye (Chiyaye) Agiri, Ciyaye Alavhat and Gridax (Gridakh). All 3 names are used, but many Kurds simply just use Ararat, the Armenian word. I've already explained my view, Van and Ararat should be used as a uniting element for Kurds and Armenians, not opposite. You're acting like Turks now. They are more busy taking and claiming than sharing. Let's not follow the Turkish model. Hangistitun aper.
donthakiller 3 months ago
@donthakiller lol why share if something belongs to use i told you eaven kurds say that van is armenian van is the real word for van eaven kurds say van becouse its an armenian word van tatvan vanadzor yerevan we are not like turks believe me we armenians have no problem with sharing but this is armenian land see i have no problem with kurds have you went to van the whole city like whole eastern turkey is full of armenian cemantarys churches buildings our alphabet is writen on all houses
MshoSultanKarapet 3 months ago
Van = Armenia
KirkKirkorian 8 months ago 4
@MshosultanKaraper oow, i know that.. there live Kurdisch ppl!
VioletKurdistan 8 months ago
it's very nice :)
Van is Yerevan right?
VioletKurdistan 8 months ago
@VioletKurdistan because van armenian name
xzxc1256 5 months ago
Jaaan Hayastan
DjArman1991 8 months ago
respect to Armenians remember the Genocide of Armenians by Jews never forget long live brothers we must fight together for our peoples
o1OpTiMuS1o 8 months ago
@o1OpTiMuS1o jew have not genocide us?!
MshoSultanKarapet 8 months ago
@MshoSultanKarapet wow you dont know your own history Armenian genocide by Jews educate yourself
o1OpTiMuS1o 8 months ago
@o1OpTiMuS1o jews have never genocide us stop makeing propaganda
MshoSultanKarapet 8 months ago
@MshoSultanKarapet haha what are you a a Crypto Armenian Jew its a documented fact
o1OpTiMuS1o 8 months ago
@o1OpTiMuS1o what the fuck are you talkign about stop talking nosens they need to slide the throath of all skinheads racist i dont hate jews and i dont like them that much
MshoSultanKarapet 8 months ago
@MshoSultanKarapet your ignorant
o1OpTiMuS1o 8 months ago
@o1OpTiMuS1o haha whats your problem man dont bring you jewish problem to me i dont suport any nazis
MshoSultanKarapet 8 months ago
JANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN <3
LONG LIVE PEOPLE ARMENIAN <3
LONG LIVE PEOPLE FAMILLY OKAV ARMENIAN <3
38ARMENIA 8 months ago