Thanks for the review. Looks like I'm gonna stick with the decade old 1.1 for now.
It's a shame there aren't more mice with a similar shape. Have you had a chance to try out the Zowie Mico? Supposed to have a really good sensor but with build quality issues. Even the the new 1.1's aren't very good anymore.
hmm arent u sure its just about setting up ur cfg right ? i mean it makes sens it has faster sens if it accelarates alla mouse_accel settings i have tried through my quake xp and other fps is the same result as you the accel is faster so u must adjust ur main sens and adjust the accel. well to be honest dude i must tell from here it seems ur cross is living its own life jumping like crazy that i noticed instant i dont mean any negative about this just want to help HF GL
@proz1 It's a known fact that the Kinzu has mouse acceleration, SteelSeries has listed it as a feature after all of the reviews about it came to the same conclusion. Every Kinzu every produced has mouse acceleration. If you don't notice it, it's because you don't play on a low enough sensitivity for it to kick in. I've reviewed this mouse three different time, with five different Kinzus, and they all had it. This is the only mouse I have tested that has native acceleration.
I recently picked up a MX518 for £17 as I was getting annoyed by my Razer copperhead (very old now)
I know people live by this mouse but for me the shape and placement of the side buttons was just awkward and didnt fit my "claw" grip style. I am now looking for another mouse primarily for fps and wow (hence the need for the side buttons) and I'm torn between this kinzu and the Zowie EC2.
If the Kinzu had the 2 side buttons it wud be perfect!
I finally understand it, douches who can't play cs spend a shit load of money on useless mice, I have a 3 $ logitech and I still pwn half of the css community, and I'll bet that if I will buy a razer mamba, I would still have the same skill, don't you see it???
@fr011000 If you bothered to read the other 168 comments, you would see the amount of people who have NATIVE HARDWARE ACCELERATION in this mouse. It has nothing to do with my computer specifications. I just recently reviewed this mouse AGAIN for ESEA.net and it STILL has acceleration and I am on Windows XP.
@fr011000 I've had four Kinzus in the past like 6 months. Three came from SteelSeries directly and the other from NewEgg. If it was fixed, it would have been posted on FragYou.net and I would have been notified and sent another to review. Read ANY review done by a gamer, they will all say the same thing.
The SteelSeries Kinzu was built with hardware level acceleration which is preferred by some of the top gamers in the world. Although mouse acceleration has been coined as a villain in some gaming circles, it is slowly but surely becoming a valued feature for certain top gamers whom can utilize its benefits to the fullest
@xXUnDeRN3tXx from those choices i'd pick up kinzu (i own one), but im right now deciding to buy a new mouse, maybe roccat kone or logitech g500... i've also tried razer DA but didn't like the shape at all
@pighead5225 If you are talking about acceleration, your Xai can turn it off via the on-screen software. I have had two Xai's and haven't had an acceleration issue with them yet.
@praNkeDbyMe Again, I'm not stupid. This has been covered so many times that this mouse has POSITIVE acceleration. Read the comments before posting useless information. Those commands don't go in your console either, they go in your launch options.
People need to get over the fact this mouse has acceleration. I review products as my side job, so I know what I'm talking about....
@ultimedman No you can't. It is native to the sensor, stop chiming in with things that are incorrect. That "acceleration" is for the operating system and not the mouse itself. This is a FACT that the Kinzu has natural acceleration that CANNOT be fixed by any means.
@Owminator No matter what mouse you have, they will always glide on a hard pad. Having a mice not glide isn't necessarily a bad thing though. However, hard pads will always glide, that is why they are made. When I use my Kinzu, I pair it with the 9HD and it glides a lot.
Steelseries definitely make the best mouse pads, with a pretty wide selection. I used to use the QcK, and when i got the 4D, i was like "HOLY SH-- THIS THING GLIDES ALL OVER THE PLACE FTW!"
Pretty much proving your point, since the QcK is a cloth pad.
@Owminator The QcK isn't a bad mat, but it will have to go through a refresh to compete with the new ones. Going from cloth to hard is a 100% difference.
@salam14111 It is quick, it just looks slower when you are watching someone do it. I don't ever move my hand that fast when using the Kinzu since it has acceleration, lol.
Again, stop with the ignorant comments. The acceleration is NATIVE to the sensor and firmware, no amount of adjustment to the operating system will fix it.
@Shuunz How do I have no idea about it? It is a known fact that there is plenty of mouse acceleration, check other videos. Keep ignorant comments to yourself, thanks.
o and dude, the reason your "positive acceleration" its because when u move your hand fast, you arent moving as accurate as u are when u are moving slow
therefore if you play with higher sensitivity and move your hand a smaller distance u would actually be more accurate.
Sorry to disappoint you, but even if youbwere right, that makes absolutely no sense. If I wasn't being as accurate, the mouse would have "negative acceleration" since I would be missing pixels. Like I demonstrated in the video, the mouse moved the same distance everytime.
This is a know distinction in the mouse.
Even with all of this "acceleration" problems that Kinzu users are having, I still use this mouse as my primary gaming mouse.
I think this mouse is great. Before i used a logitech mx518 and thought it would be good because of its ergonomic shape, but it turns out a plain looking mouse was the best.
The beat mouse out right now is the Xai, but it does not have mature software yet. There are also many defective units too, as I got one. You can't go wrong with an Intellimouse 1.1, 3.0, 518, or Deathadder.
I have never used the 5xx series from Logitech because I don't like ergonomic mice for gaming, but plenty of gamers use them. Everyone goes through their share of mice, I would purchase whatever looks the most pleasing to you and try to stay with that.
Yea, I didn't mean for it to be at the time I did it. I was just going to a tournament and wanted it to be up as early as possible, or I would have to wait another four day. -_-
I updated with firmware 1.0.10 and my god my mouse started skipping pixels. Was working fine with 1.0.6/7 Wish I never updated it. I did support ticket and they didnt replay. I wish I can downgrade my firmware. :((
@sondrek No, this doesn't fix the Kinzu. The only thing that can fix the Kinzu is a firmware update from SteelSeries, not a registry file for Windows 7. If that was the case, why does it happen on XP and Vista. I am removing your post, use a link next time.
It is off, SteelSeries tried to put in an algorithm to reduce the negative acceleration or to make the sensor perform better and they just didn't test it before it was released I guess...
That is great, it really is. However, the majority of users who were having problems before are still having problems. You should actually test it. Do what I did in the video, and I will guarantee that you still have acceleration.
I accidentally deleted the guy's comment above this one. I have always had my hertz jump when I tested it. It actually depended on how fast or slow I moved the mouse in the program. I would test it at a steady speed rather than a varying one. Sorry for deleting your comment, I use my iPhone to post quickly and the delete option is next to the reply button.
No I dont have acc. on Apparently its a comm problem with Kinzu with not stable hzs and +/- acc problem. Its very good mouse for shape and build wise but optical should be tweaked better.
Sorry guys, I am at a LAN right now. I don't know if there will be Internet for me to download the drivers. I will ask an admin if I can't download it and then I will update you guys!
Those won't solve anything as the acceleration is within the mouse. The acceleration persist outside games as well. Only solution for this issue is imo new firmware.
I had a problem with my Ikari laser, and their customer support was fantastic. I opened a support ticket, and they sent me a new mouse within 2 weeks. What I suggest you do if you have to wait longer is either tell them so send you another mouse, or replace the Kinzu that you have with the Xai.
It is hard to do that when they don't respond to their support tickets.
I had a similar problem with my Ikari Laser and it took them over two months to respond to a ticket, in which case was too late because I ended up giving it away.
I would seriously consider the Zowie 1.1 Bundle. If you want a basic gaming mouse with an extraordinary mouse pad, then Zowie is the way to go right now.
steelseries apparently just released new drivers. you try it out yet? According to some guy on gotfrag its supposed to be "good". i believe the newset drivers are 1.0.8
No, they never offered. The only real thing they said is they know if the problem and sent it to their engineering division. It has been about two-three weeks since they updated my ticket.
I got my Kinzu 2 days ago it was on offer on website Kinzu + Qck mini £20 only! So I thought it must be OEM without box and cd.
When I got it it was different than Kinzu you got. Not much diff. Just scroll wheel is black not grey as urs. And cord is not braided its like cord they use on Mx518 :( Disappointed with that BUT mouse itself is very good. I do have slightly +ve accel but I can play easy with it. Just cord is problem coz mouse is light. And it stucks to my workstation drower. :(
Yes I got Armadillo but my cord is still fly in the air. Kinda hard to explain. xd I forget to maintion that side of my Kinzu is not rubberized its as same as top BUT with different color. I attached side rubber grip so it will got little wider and I can hold properly. Glidez are shit doesnt glide at all on my QCK WoW mousepad. I attached 3 taflon feet which I baught for my Deathadder and didnt fit them properly. Now it glides perfect. My aim is like incresed 20% more accurate. XD
When trying this did u use the noforce commands in launch options? (-noforcemparms, -noforcemaccel) I assume that u have the "enchanted pointer precision" box unchecked also or ur results wouldnt be that accurate. Great review btw.
I used all of the noforce commands as well as disabling the "Enhanced Pointer Precision". Just to make sure it wasn't Windows 7, I plugged in my Intellimouse 1.1 and had no positive acceleration, just the negative acceleration that everyone gets from the Intelli series.
I will have a Xai video review up around the beginning of December. Thank you for watching my video and commenting!
i'm a Salmosa user and i'm interested in buying a Kinzu. i use fingertip grip. some things i don't like about salmosa: right mouse button squeaked and i had to spray WD-40 inside. the surface of the mouse wheel is too slippery, imo. and now the plastic on the left mouse button is starting to peel off. i want the kinzu, but i don't like how it doesn't have teflon feet. but i heard they may be making teflon feet for it. and now i hear about some acceleration issues. so i may wait a bit.
I think you will have acceleraion problem only when you move accross the surface with too much speed. We usually dont do it in game. Personally I dont.
I personally use a fingertip grip, only the tips of my finger rest on the mouse unless I am awping. I like it for fingertip grip because it is smaller and a little easier to move around. It does take a little bit to get used to how small it is though.
When I awp I tend to rest a little of my palm on it.
The mouse is technically fine for me, and I play with a medium sensitivity. It is only on rare occasions that I move my mouse so fast that the malfunction speeds kicks in.
I think if you play with high sensitivity, it will be fine for you.
Dont get Salmosa! I have 1 and its way too light and dont have rubber side grips. And lift off distance is high. Kinzu has nice weight balance and rubber grip. Hopefilly they will sort out positive acc in next firmware update. I am buying one for christmas because I dont move mouse that fast on my mat. I have less space for kinda 30 cm so hopefully I might not have much problem with +ve acc.
Good luck with it. Salmosa can go 800 and 1800 dpi only which is nice but I play on 400 dpi ^^ besides I dont find Salmosa as accurate as Mx518 im using. Deathadder also doesnt track as good as Mx518. I also have G9 Lachesis Deathadder IME 3.0! The only one gives me best tracking and accurate aim is Mx518! I optimized usb rate to 250hzs thats it. :) But I dont get proper grip with Mx518 I am finguretip grip used with resting my wrist on mousepad. So I think Kinzu will fit to my hand perfectly!
If your computer cannot handle 1000Hz, you might experience a slight lag the faster you move your mouse. If that is the case, lower your Hz so you can have a more consistent experience. :P
You shouldn't have a problem. I have 6 USB connections and one of them is a four port hub, all being powered by an external PSU, I forget the wattage on it though.
If you're looking for a cloth mousepads, they are all pretty much the same. Some good companies are SteelSeries, Xtrac Pad, and Razer. For hard pads, anything from SteelSeries, Func, or Qpad are good.
I personally use the QCK Heavy, it's a good mousepad for LANs to smooth out the bumps in their desks.
My Kinzu just turns itself off sometimes .... -.-
MUHKehrin 2 months ago
TALK LOUDER!!!!!!!
909emil 2 months ago
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AsianStyled 5 months ago
Thanks for the review. Looks like I'm gonna stick with the decade old 1.1 for now.
It's a shame there aren't more mice with a similar shape. Have you had a chance to try out the Zowie Mico? Supposed to have a really good sensor but with build quality issues. Even the the new 1.1's aren't very good anymore.
rayachheuy 6 months ago
@rayachheuy 7aNYX26Gu8M - just search zowie mico review, i don't post under this account anymore
EthanNixon 6 months ago
@rayachheuy I actually run the website eSports Project, and I reviewed the MiCO. :P
EthanNixon 5 months ago
@Timebubbles Sounds about right.
EthanNixon 7 months ago
does this problem exist for xai too?
tindanian 9 months ago
macro support?
RazorexZ 9 months ago
hmm arent u sure its just about setting up ur cfg right ? i mean it makes sens it has faster sens if it accelarates alla mouse_accel settings i have tried through my quake xp and other fps is the same result as you the accel is faster so u must adjust ur main sens and adjust the accel. well to be honest dude i must tell from here it seems ur cross is living its own life jumping like crazy that i noticed instant i dont mean any negative about this just want to help HF GL
proz1 9 months ago
@proz1 It's a known fact that the Kinzu has mouse acceleration, SteelSeries has listed it as a feature after all of the reviews about it came to the same conclusion. Every Kinzu every produced has mouse acceleration. If you don't notice it, it's because you don't play on a low enough sensitivity for it to kick in. I've reviewed this mouse three different time, with five different Kinzus, and they all had it. This is the only mouse I have tested that has native acceleration.
EthanNixon 9 months ago
@EthanNixon They fixed that my friend has that mouse and hes doesnt have that problem any more
DaMiAn3x4FUN 5 months ago
@proz1 Visit SteelSeries' website, it lists acceleration as a feature... It's in every Kinzu mouse...
EthanNixon 5 months ago
is the problem FIX YET ????
zhemin 10 months ago
So how good is this mouse is in 3200dpi?
Franchan10 10 months ago
I just bought a SteelSeries Xai, i can tell that is the best mouse ever
stixhns 10 months ago
Does anyone think that this mouse is too light?
a4tech357 10 months ago
Acceleration actually helps flickshoting
a4tech357 10 months ago
intellimouse 3.0 or kinzu?
Mastermoviez 10 months ago
@Mastermoviez Two completely different mice, one is ergonomic and the other is ambidextrous. One has prediction, the other doesn't.
EthanNixon 10 months ago
I recently picked up a MX518 for £17 as I was getting annoyed by my Razer copperhead (very old now)
I know people live by this mouse but for me the shape and placement of the side buttons was just awkward and didnt fit my "claw" grip style. I am now looking for another mouse primarily for fps and wow (hence the need for the side buttons) and I'm torn between this kinzu and the Zowie EC2.
If the Kinzu had the 2 side buttons it wud be perfect!
R3aCt0rM1nd 11 months ago
@R3aCt0rM1nd
If the Kinzu had side buttons, it would never be replaced for my personal use. :P
EthanNixon 11 months ago
@R3aCt0rM1nd dude just get a naga it's perfect for everything :P
virremannen11 10 months ago
Dude! Get Call of Duty 4! =D! but i think the Xai seems better and im think im gonna buy it :D! but im serius!! Cs Really sux! i have tryd it :(
stgsweden 1 year ago
@stgsweden cause you suck and pub
MaxCheesy 11 months ago
wn ofe
SuperShinoxD 1 year ago
this or Logitech mx18 ?
masni92 1 year ago
@masni92 PErsonal preference.
EthanNixon 1 year ago
@masni92 MX18!
xjod9 1 year ago
@xjod9
;D yep and its the mx518 btw :DDD
masni92 1 year ago
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expertbot333 1 year ago
you are retard man =D
fharctic 1 year ago
I finally understand it, douches who can't play cs spend a shit load of money on useless mice, I have a 3 $ logitech and I still pwn half of the css community, and I'll bet that if I will buy a razer mamba, I would still have the same skill, don't you see it???
Xcpr1 1 year ago
@Xcpr1 No, I don't understand what you just said. It might be a combination of your low IQ or your horrific grammar though.
What I think you were trying to say is, you don't need a good mouse to be good. If that is the case, you're dumb as fuck.
EthanNixon 1 year ago 6
@Xcpr1 toppplooooord
raygemovies 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
so u like this mouse ?
SuperNiko911 1 year ago
Windows vista and 7 has your acceleration, not the mouse -.-, so fix it and you will see the difference , cpl fix wont work but others do
fr011000 1 year ago
@fr011000 If you bothered to read the other 168 comments, you would see the amount of people who have NATIVE HARDWARE ACCELERATION in this mouse. It has nothing to do with my computer specifications. I just recently reviewed this mouse AGAIN for ESEA.net and it STILL has acceleration and I am on Windows XP.
PLEASE READ FIRST.
Thanks.
EthanNixon 1 year ago 5
@EthanNixon well then you have one of the first version which still has it
fr011000 1 year ago
@fr011000 I've had four Kinzus in the past like 6 months. Three came from SteelSeries directly and the other from NewEgg. If it was fixed, it would have been posted on FragYou.net and I would have been notified and sent another to review. Read ANY review done by a gamer, they will all say the same thing.
EthanNixon 1 year ago
The SteelSeries Kinzu was built with hardware level acceleration which is preferred by some of the top gamers in the world. Although mouse acceleration has been coined as a villain in some gaming circles, it is slowly but surely becoming a valued feature for certain top gamers whom can utilize its benefits to the fullest
gastar89 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
For all the morons out there.
faq.steelseries. com/questions/194/Does+the+Kinzu+have+mouse+acceleration%3F
tch80289gamer 1 year ago
sick mouse! i have one
ShaunDooley 1 year ago
what should i get ... razer DA ,IE 3.0 or kinzu?
xXUnDeRN3tXx 1 year ago
@xXUnDeRN3tXx from those choices i'd pick up kinzu (i own one), but im right now deciding to buy a new mouse, maybe roccat kone or logitech g500... i've also tried razer DA but didn't like the shape at all
MadCrokodile1 1 year ago
@MadCrokodile1 I bought the kinzu.. works perfect ^^
xXUnDeRN3tXx 1 year ago
until now, does the "positive acceleration" had been fix by steelseries ?
hijrah 1 year ago
@hijrah It has not, there have been no updates since my latest comments.
If they have a new update, I will make another video though. :P
EthanNixon 1 year ago
@EthanNixon aitee, thanks. mybe getting one next month :D
hijrah 1 year ago
dude where can i get one of those mushrooms?
paskin36 1 year ago
@paskin36 I got it on eBay, it's a coin bank. :P
EthanNixon 1 year ago
@EthanNixon awesome dude, was it expensive?
paskin36 1 year ago
@paskin36 I think it was a couple of dollars to be honest. Just type "mushroom coin bank" in an eBay search. :P
EthanNixon 1 year ago
@EthanNixon thanks man, cool review by the way. :)
paskin36 1 year ago
my xai is having the same problem...its really annoying...will they release new updates to remove it?
pighead5225 1 year ago
@pighead5225 If you are talking about acceleration, your Xai can turn it off via the on-screen software. I have had two Xai's and haven't had an acceleration issue with them yet.
EthanNixon 1 year ago
Man I want one of those mushrooms !
drasl 1 year ago
@drasl me too
paskin36 1 year ago
@praNkeDbyMe Again, I'm not stupid. This has been covered so many times that this mouse has POSITIVE acceleration. Read the comments before posting useless information. Those commands don't go in your console either, they go in your launch options.
People need to get over the fact this mouse has acceleration. I review products as my side job, so I know what I'm talking about....
EthanNixon 1 year ago
with the kinzu u can turn acceleration on and off with the software
ultimedman 1 year ago
@ultimedman No you can't. It is native to the sensor, stop chiming in with things that are incorrect. That "acceleration" is for the operating system and not the mouse itself. This is a FACT that the Kinzu has natural acceleration that CANNOT be fixed by any means.
EthanNixon 1 year ago
It doesn't glide at all, needs a lot of force to move"
I use it in combo with a ss 4D, works perfectly, minimum friction.
Owminator 1 year ago
@Owminator No matter what mouse you have, they will always glide on a hard pad. Having a mice not glide isn't necessarily a bad thing though. However, hard pads will always glide, that is why they are made. When I use my Kinzu, I pair it with the 9HD and it glides a lot.
EthanNixon 1 year ago
@EthanNixon
Steelseries definitely make the best mouse pads, with a pretty wide selection. I used to use the QcK, and when i got the 4D, i was like "HOLY SH-- THIS THING GLIDES ALL OVER THE PLACE FTW!"
Pretty much proving your point, since the QcK is a cloth pad.
Owminator 1 year ago
@Owminator The QcK isn't a bad mat, but it will have to go through a refresh to compete with the new ones. Going from cloth to hard is a 100% difference.
EthanNixon 1 year ago
yeah, nice mouse
VLAAAAADjA 1 year ago
There hasn't been a firmware update in months, so the acceleration is still there.
EthanNixon 1 year ago
so, did it fix it with the latest firmware? cheers
iSNiPEjust 1 year ago
@iSNiPEjust There hasn't been a new firmware in a while I don't think, so no.
EthanNixon 1 year ago
where did you get that
tushigiinh 1 year ago
@tushigiinh ESEAmarket()com
EthanNixon 1 year ago
LOL thats not even quick !!! and so big acceleration
salam14111 1 year ago
@salam14111 It is quick, it just looks slower when you are watching someone do it. I don't ever move my hand that fast when using the Kinzu since it has acceleration, lol.
EthanNixon 1 year ago
Hi, I wanna ask you a question. Is the Razor DeathAdder a good gaming mouse?
supergod58 1 year ago
Got a XAI yet?
AiDz0r 1 year ago
You got youre fps_max set to 100 lol set that to 300
AiDz0r 1 year ago
So to be clear, positive accel still present even with new firmware?
aUsernameAvailable 1 year ago
@aUsernameAvailable
There hasn't been a new firmware update since December 4, 2009, so to answer your question: No.
EthanNixon 1 year ago
@EthanNixon lolwut.. you can disable accel in registers and in your game startup settings XP
fail.. its not the mouse its ur PC!
xsannyx 1 year ago
@xsannyx
Again, stop with the ignorant comments. I was using Windows 7, and the acceleration is a well-documented problem with the Kinzu.
EthanNixon 1 year ago
@EthanNixon omg you can use mousefix!
i tried it u know!
xsannyx 1 year ago
@xsannyx
Again, stop with the ignorant comments. The acceleration is NATIVE to the sensor and firmware, no amount of adjustment to the operating system will fix it.
EthanNixon 1 year ago
@EthanNixon w0w you really need to go back to school...You have no idea bout the mouse acc.
Shuunz 1 year ago
@Shuunz How do I have no idea about it? It is a known fact that there is plenty of mouse acceleration, check other videos. Keep ignorant comments to yourself, thanks.
EthanNixon 1 year ago
o and dude, the reason your "positive acceleration" its because when u move your hand fast, you arent moving as accurate as u are when u are moving slow
therefore if you play with higher sensitivity and move your hand a smaller distance u would actually be more accurate.
GG *cough*
tragedy866 2 years ago
@tragedy866
Sorry to disappoint you, but even if youbwere right, that makes absolutely no sense. If I wasn't being as accurate, the mouse would have "negative acceleration" since I would be missing pixels. Like I demonstrated in the video, the mouse moved the same distance everytime.
This is a know distinction in the mouse.
Even with all of this "acceleration" problems that Kinzu users are having, I still use this mouse as my primary gaming mouse.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
kinzu support win7?!!!!!! PLEASE TELL ME!!
TheTetza01 2 years ago
off course it does idiot
Hornilope 2 years ago
yes it does, and its pretty sweet, not a steelseries fan for sound but this mouse is worthy for what you pay for.
tragedy866 2 years ago
I think this mouse is great. Before i used a logitech mx518 and thought it would be good because of its ergonomic shape, but it turns out a plain looking mouse was the best.
also what kind of mat do you use?
asdfghjkl2222 2 years ago
The mouse pad I use most is the ZOWIE G-TF. Another pad that works really well is the PureTrak Talent.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
nice review... im playing css 2 and i need a new mouse ...so i also need many opinions about different mices
silklord03 2 years ago
The beat mouse out right now is the Xai, but it does not have mature software yet. There are also many defective units too, as I got one. You can't go wrong with an Intellimouse 1.1, 3.0, 518, or Deathadder.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
i saw many ppl have the 518 from logitech and many many ppl have a good opinion about that mouse
silklord03 2 years ago
I have never used the 5xx series from Logitech because I don't like ergonomic mice for gaming, but plenty of gamers use them. Everyone goes through their share of mice, I would purchase whatever looks the most pleasing to you and try to stay with that.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
thanks man
Hldv12 2 years ago
Yea, I didn't mean for it to be at the time I did it. I was just going to a tournament and wanted it to be up as early as possible, or I would have to wait another four day. -_-
EthanNixon 2 years ago
Oh what?
EthanNixon 2 years ago
Nice review.
SchoolofLuke 2 years ago
I updated with firmware 1.0.10 and my god my mouse started skipping pixels. Was working fine with 1.0.6/7 Wish I never updated it. I did support ticket and they didnt replay. I wish I can downgrade my firmware. :((
Wolf3nStein 2 years ago
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sondrek 2 years ago
@sondrek No, this doesn't fix the Kinzu. The only thing that can fix the Kinzu is a firmware update from SteelSeries, not a registry file for Windows 7. If that was the case, why does it happen on XP and Vista. I am removing your post, use a link next time.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
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sondrek 2 years ago
i did and nearly shat my self when i changed video and my house nearly blew up bacuse i turned it up so much
vinczeee 2 years ago
Yes, sorry about that.
Like the information says, I did it at like 4:30AM and I just woke up. :P
EthanNixon 2 years ago
@EthanNixon this mouse is for baby hands seriously
copperhead88 2 years ago
It is a small mouse, but so is the WMO.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
fix the audio dickhead
vinczeee 2 years ago
The audio is fine, turn up your volume.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
im not sure, but i went to steelseries website and i looked kinzu mouse description and there was..
accerlation on/off
l4pt0p2 2 years ago
It is off, SteelSeries tried to put in an algorithm to reduce the negative acceleration or to make the sensor perform better and they just didn't test it before it was released I guess...
EthanNixon 2 years ago
I actually thought about than when I tried the Xai with the 9HD. It felt like a cloth pad because of its speed, but ha the smoothness of a hard pad.
When I get my own 9HD and Xai, I will be sure to update the video with my experience. Also, all new videos will be posted at eSportsReviews.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
That is great, it really is. However, the majority of users who were having problems before are still having problems. You should actually test it. Do what I did in the video, and I will guarantee that you still have acceleration.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
do you have any acceleration on your kinzu?
mrLANDO 2 years ago
I accidentally deleted the guy's comment above this one. I have always had my hertz jump when I tested it. It actually depended on how fast or slow I moved the mouse in the program. I would test it at a steady speed rather than a varying one. Sorry for deleting your comment, I use my iPhone to post quickly and the delete option is next to the reply button.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
No I dont have acc. on Apparently its a comm problem with Kinzu with not stable hzs and +/- acc problem. Its very good mouse for shape and build wise but optical should be tweaked better.
Wolf3nStein 2 years ago
That is what they say. I still get massive acceleration on any CPI count.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
1.0.10 did not change anything as far as acceleration. I have no idea what they changed at all, because it didn't change my firmware.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
Sorry guys, I am at a LAN right now. I don't know if there will be Internet for me to download the drivers. I will ask an admin if I can't download it and then I will update you guys!
EthanNixon 2 years ago
kk have a nice game ahaha :D
cokie119 2 years ago
the acceleration is STILL not fixed.
utrolig 2 years ago
ye give us the feedback plz :s
cokie119 2 years ago
Ethan, theres new drivers out today. Will you give them a try and give us a feedback?
sondrek 2 years ago
set launch options> -noforcemaccel -noforcemparms -noforcemspd
try it
sondre113 2 years ago
Read through all of the comments before posting, I am sure I covered this.
I have been playing for many years to know to keep those commands on.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
lol...wht ever
sondre113 2 years ago
Those won't solve anything as the acceleration is within the mouse. The acceleration persist outside games as well. Only solution for this issue is imo new firmware.
sondrek 2 years ago
The new drivers, version 1.0.9, has not fixed the acceleration issue.
sondrek 2 years ago
just a heads up, steelseries released new drivers again.
mrLANDO 2 years ago
I am trying them out now.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
1.0.9 did not fix the acceleration problem.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
and what is your opinion now?
cokie119 2 years ago
A new update of kinzu :D whats your opinion about it now?
cokie119 2 years ago
I am trying them out now.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
1.0.9 did not fix the acceleration problem.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
I had a problem with my Ikari laser, and their customer support was fantastic. I opened a support ticket, and they sent me a new mouse within 2 weeks. What I suggest you do if you have to wait longer is either tell them so send you another mouse, or replace the Kinzu that you have with the Xai.
bangcomedy 2 years ago
It is hard to do that when they don't respond to their support tickets.
I had a similar problem with my Ikari Laser and it took them over two months to respond to a ticket, in which case was too late because I ended up giving it away.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
good vid, definitely gonna take this into account when deciding which product to purchase after my mx518 dies.
MiGhtyHealthyy 2 years ago 2
I would seriously consider the Zowie 1.1 Bundle. If you want a basic gaming mouse with an extraordinary mouse pad, then Zowie is the way to go right now.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
steelseries apparently just released new drivers. you try it out yet? According to some guy on gotfrag its supposed to be "good". i believe the newset drivers are 1.0.8
mrLANDO 2 years ago
I just tried it out now, and it did not fix anything with positive acceleration atleast on my mouse.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
so did they send you a new one yet?
mrLANDO 2 years ago
No, they never offered. The only real thing they said is they know if the problem and sent it to their engineering division. It has been about two-three weeks since they updated my ticket.
I will ask for a update from them tonight.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
I got my Kinzu 2 days ago it was on offer on website Kinzu + Qck mini £20 only! So I thought it must be OEM without box and cd.
When I got it it was different than Kinzu you got. Not much diff. Just scroll wheel is black not grey as urs. And cord is not braided its like cord they use on Mx518 :( Disappointed with that BUT mouse itself is very good. I do have slightly +ve accel but I can play easy with it. Just cord is problem coz mouse is light. And it stucks to my workstation drower. :(
Wolf3nStein 2 years ago
I suggest you get a mouse bungee, or the new Razer Armadillo II.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
Yes I got Armadillo but my cord is still fly in the air. Kinda hard to explain. xd I forget to maintion that side of my Kinzu is not rubberized its as same as top BUT with different color. I attached side rubber grip so it will got little wider and I can hold properly. Glidez are shit doesnt glide at all on my QCK WoW mousepad. I attached 3 taflon feet which I baught for my Deathadder and didnt fit them properly. Now it glides perfect. My aim is like incresed 20% more accurate. XD
Wolf3nStein 2 years ago
It has a rubber paint to it, not that it is a rubber material.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
When trying this did u use the noforce commands in launch options? (-noforcemparms, -noforcemaccel) I assume that u have the "enchanted pointer precision" box unchecked also or ur results wouldnt be that accurate. Great review btw.
Thanks in advance.
klimpnn 2 years ago
I used all of the noforce commands as well as disabling the "Enhanced Pointer Precision". Just to make sure it wasn't Windows 7, I plugged in my Intellimouse 1.1 and had no positive acceleration, just the negative acceleration that everyone gets from the Intelli series.
I will have a Xai video review up around the beginning of December. Thank you for watching my video and commenting!
EthanNixon 2 years ago
i'm a Salmosa user and i'm interested in buying a Kinzu. i use fingertip grip. some things i don't like about salmosa: right mouse button squeaked and i had to spray WD-40 inside. the surface of the mouse wheel is too slippery, imo. and now the plastic on the left mouse button is starting to peel off. i want the kinzu, but i don't like how it doesn't have teflon feet. but i heard they may be making teflon feet for it. and now i hear about some acceleration issues. so i may wait a bit.
chaos120 2 years ago
oh yea..and that razer logo that's on the salmosa...that fades and ends up looking really bad
chaos120 2 years ago
I think you will have acceleraion problem only when you move accross the surface with too much speed. We usually dont do it in game. Personally I dont.
Wolf3nStein 2 years ago
what about fingertrip grip for this mouse ?
dose it feel good ?
i play with hight sensitivity speed :
setting in game : 4 (counter strike source )
widows : 6/11
scorpot 2 years ago
I personally use a fingertip grip, only the tips of my finger rest on the mouse unless I am awping. I like it for fingertip grip because it is smaller and a little easier to move around. It does take a little bit to get used to how small it is though.
When I awp I tend to rest a little of my palm on it.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
so Ethan , you thing its good for hight sensitivity player ??
i got steelseries mass and i think IMO that mouse are going to be perfect !
scorpot 2 years ago
The mouse is technically fine for me, and I play with a medium sensitivity. It is only on rare occasions that I move my mouse so fast that the malfunction speeds kicks in.
I think if you play with high sensitivity, it will be fine for you.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
I was thinking of either getting a Salmosa or a Kinzu.
Can you shed any light on which is better?
piggymonsta 2 years ago
I have never used the Salmosa, but I heard it is a pretty good mouse. Both are small and have no side buttons.
If you need a mouse right now I would go with the Salmosa since it doesn't have the issues the Kinzu has.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
Thanks for the response, I already ordered a Salmosa.
piggymonsta 2 years ago
Dont get Salmosa! I have 1 and its way too light and dont have rubber side grips. And lift off distance is high. Kinzu has nice weight balance and rubber grip. Hopefilly they will sort out positive acc in next firmware update. I am buying one for christmas because I dont move mouse that fast on my mat. I have less space for kinda 30 cm so hopefully I might not have much problem with +ve acc.
Wolf3nStein 2 years ago
I ordered a Salmosa because I wanted a light mouse. I don't really need rubber side grips, I can grip plastic fine.
The Salmosa was really cheap, I got it for $19.99; shipped.
The Kinzu is like $40, so I went the half-priced route.
piggymonsta 2 years ago
Good luck with it. Salmosa can go 800 and 1800 dpi only which is nice but I play on 400 dpi ^^ besides I dont find Salmosa as accurate as Mx518 im using. Deathadder also doesnt track as good as Mx518. I also have G9 Lachesis Deathadder IME 3.0! The only one gives me best tracking and accurate aim is Mx518! I optimized usb rate to 250hzs thats it. :) But I dont get proper grip with Mx518 I am finguretip grip used with resting my wrist on mousepad. So I think Kinzu will fit to my hand perfectly!
Wolf3nStein 2 years ago
I've heard 1000 Hz is the best, is it bad to have it too high?
piggymonsta 2 years ago
1000Hz is the ideal number you want to have your mouse at. However, if you feel inconsistency in your mouse, turn the Hz down to 500.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
What do you mean by inconsistency?
piggymonsta 2 years ago
If your computer cannot handle 1000Hz, you might experience a slight lag the faster you move your mouse. If that is the case, lower your Hz so you can have a more consistent experience. :P
EthanNixon 2 years ago
Grrr.
What determines how much Hz my computer can handle?
My computer is about 6 years old, I'm not sure if it can handle 1000 Hz.
piggymonsta 2 years ago
More thank likely your computer can handle it. As long as you don't have too many USB's plugged in.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
I have about 3~4 USB's plugged in. Is that a lot?
piggymonsta 2 years ago
You shouldn't have a problem. I have 6 USB connections and one of them is a four port hub, all being powered by an external PSU, I forget the wattage on it though.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
Thanks a lot for the help.
Can you shed some light on good mouse pads though?
piggymonsta 2 years ago
If you're looking for a cloth mousepads, they are all pretty much the same. Some good companies are SteelSeries, Xtrac Pad, and Razer. For hard pads, anything from SteelSeries, Func, or Qpad are good.
I personally use the QCK Heavy, it's a good mousepad for LANs to smooth out the bumps in their desks.
EthanNixon 2 years ago
I was thinking of getting a QCK Mini because it's pretty cheap.
How much did you get your Heavy for?
piggymonsta 2 years ago