I love how he says they made an unlawful search and seizure of his video tape...LOL, You don't need a warrant to seize property on a suspect's person.
sued for what? he was illegally parked and was interfering with an investigation. If he had not talked or illegally parked he could have legally recorded all day long. you can not break a few laws to attempt to justify things you are allowed to do.
meh. he asked him to leave as he was parked illegally the guy refused by keeping on asking him for id and such. He was identified by a uniformed officer as a police officer. I dont see how this was an illegal arrest. if the guy got back into his car and left he wouldnt have been arrested but his sense of self entitlement got the better of him.
If this is an expressway, most states prohibit stopping your vehicle unless it is an emergency. Stopping to videotape something does not constitute an emergency and would thus be a crime.
This man was given several warnings and it was clearly explained to him that he cannot park his vehicle where he did. It is also unlawful for pedestrians to walk on the highway. He refused the lawful order and was legally arrested.
@FoxeoGames So What is an emergency? Do you have a definition of emergency or is that just yet another "at the officers discretion" BS definition? Is an emergency having a heart attack or dropping a lit cigarette? His job is to record and his skills were needed, perhaps thats his work emergency? And if its unlawful to "walk on the highway" then anyone who pulls over and gets out is breaking the law. An officer who pulls someone over and walks over to them is breaking the law?
@FoxeoGames Its clear after reading your comment and watching the video that you are just sticking up for a fellow cop. The cop told him a couple times he was illegally parked and when the man responded by asking for his information the officer refused to give it to him and said if he didnt leave hed be arrested, the man asked another question and was arrested. Nothing was "clearly explained", it was an arrogant prick cop barking orders demanding compliance and obedience.
@FoxeoGames Huh. Wierd. At 1:22 all i see is the guy saying "Ihave a right to shoot" and the officer saying "I know."..... SO uhhh.... what video were you watching or are you in "stick up for a fellow cop" mode to the point where obvious shit isnt obvious to your eyes?
The officer cant look him in the eyes and explain what hes doing wrong and explain why hes lawfully required t p;eave then first he shouldnt expect compliance and second he shouldnt be a fucking police officer.
@FoxeoGames If you can not explain yourself and your action at ALL TIMES then you should not be doing what you are doing as a police officer. Plain. And. Simple. Officers like you take shortcuts and fuck up the way things should work by taking things into your own hands and issuing out streetside justice. Let people that took more than 6 months of community college classes handle the heavy thinking, just do your jobs and follow the LAW while doing it if you expect citizensto belaqful
@tronclay You do not know me at all, so it would be impossible for you to know if I take "shortcuts," whatever that means. The officer here was very clear.
At 1:22 the cameraman says, "I'm not moving," which indicates he knew he was being asked to move.
Regardless, I've given more than ample proof of the procedures of this officer. If you still refuse to accept it, then you may never understand the law and how it is applied.
@FoxeoGames If i say "Im not taking a shit" does that mean i know ive been asked to take a shit? Of course not, now you are stipulating that you can read this mans mind. Another thing i guess cops are good at, which is why nobody bats an eyelash when they arrest people for things as silly as "talking back". The thing is youve given NO proof. Proof comes in writing from state legislature, not from the mouth of some street cop who knows less law than some smartass college kid.
@tronclay OK, eliminate 1:22 entirely and he still receives 5 warnings prior to arrest.
What proof do you want? The quoted state law? Here's what you're looking for:
Florida Statutes Title XXIII, 316.194 "Stopping, standing or parking outside of municipalities."
I have a feeling you'll still come back with something. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like you just have a general anti-police attitude; you WANT him to be wrong, yes?
@FoxeoGames I want him to be wrong? The guy thats "supposed" to help keep me and my family safe, you think I WANT some of them to be downright lowdown scumbags?
What you call warnings i call orders being barked out by an asshole cop. The cop had no patience or professionalism, he answered no questions for the man whatsoever he simply has the "cop" attitude: "Comply or ill make you pay for questioning my authority". Lose the attitude that I owe you ANYTHING for YOUR job choice.
@FoxeoGames I read your statutes and i see nothing stating that this man was breaking the law as a pedestrian for standing where he was. Keep in mind the TITLE of the legislature or statute means nothing if the definition doesnt back it up. The statute made ZERO mention of pedestrians and laws pertaining to them, unless i missed them.
I also see zero proof that this man was parked on the "paved or main-traveled path" of the highway, he could have been parked on the dirt whichisLegal
@tronclay The statute was about parking on a non-municipal highway. He parked his vehicle on the highway, and both officers mentioned it. Are you saying we should assume he didn't have a vehicle? You're then assuming; this video is not the full story, it's only what it is.
Both officers acknowledged he was in violation. If you insist on believing they are lying, that's your choice to be biased and prejudicial without the evidence to back up your prejudices. It shows your character
@FoxeoGames First off it says "hes pulled off to the sid eof the road illegally". The cop makes no mention of if hes on or off the pavement. Secondly, if you are so adamant that what the officer says goes and if you dont follow it you pay the consequences then why is it that when the man says "I have a right to film" and the female officer says "i know" you dont take that as proof that he IS allowed to record because the god damn officer just SAID he could???
@tronclay You're arguing that there's no horse because we can't see the horse. This video is proof of why video doesn't "speak for itself;" there are numerous questions here we can't answer because video is limited -- you only see what the camera is pointed at. You cannot prove he's not parked on the pavement, I can't prove he is -- but those officers can see if he is.
The act in question is not the recording; the camera is irrelevant. The acts are the two laws I already mentioned
@tronclay You're arguing that there's no horse because we can't see the horse. This video is proof of why video doesn't "speak for itself;" there are numerous questions here we can't answer because video is limited -- you only see what the camera is pointed at. You cannot prove he's not parked on the pavement, I can't prove he is -- but those officers can see if he is.
The act in question is not the recording; the camera is irrelevant. The acts are the two laws I already mentioned
@FoxeoGames The two laws which i responded to already saying that they have no bearing if the camera man was either NOT parked on the pavement OR the cop wasnt acting lawfully. YOU assume both things are the way YOU want them to be as an officer. I look at the VIDEO and derive what i can from it. Video doesnt speak for itself? Tell that to a court of law. The officer was asked for identification, rightfully so as he wasnt in uniform and he refused to show it. Is that now unlawful?
@FoxeoGames The fact of the matter is an officer can SAY whatever he chooses but it does NOT make him correct or even mean hes being truthful. If you are so naive as to think that he couldnt possibly be lying then im afraid your apparent education wasnt worth the government army money that most likely paid for it. You need examples of cops lying ON video? Say the word or just search it yourself, you couldnt possibly avoid them all.
@tronclay So what are you saying? We should just assume that two officers, in broad daylight and to a man with a camera running, are blatantly lying about where he parked his car? What if this man just turned around and videoed his vehicle, wouldn't that settle it? Did the man object to their claim he was parked on the side of the highway?
What are we doing here, just assuming that all officers lie? How is that not prejudicial and judging without the facts? What is your reasoning?
@FoxeoGames why assume anything? IM going by the PROOF and EVIDENCE in the video. Evidence, reasonable suspiscion etc etc.... Things you seem to care nothing about as an officer which is very concerning. Oh the officer say this and yadayadayada... Yeah i guess you are right, cased closed, just because the cop said so.
@tronclay I really shouldn't bother, but here's the other law the officer referenced:
Title XLVI 843.02 Resisting officer without violence to his or her person.—Whoever shall resist, obstruct, or oppose any officer ... in the lawful execution of any legal duty, without offering or doing violence to the person of the officer, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
@FoxeoGames And the part that somehow even officers seem to forget.... "IN THE >>>LAWFUL<<< EXECUTION OF ANY LEGAL DUTY". The video shows zero proof of the camera mans car being on the "paved or main traveled" path of the highway. So at this point, the camera man can make the argument that his car was nowhere near the pavement and who are you to argue? Intelligent people and yes even cops, should go by whats obvious and apparent, not by what they feel like doing at th emoment.
@tronclay I'm an officer and I've had over 6 years of college. I have a BA in Education with dual majors. I speak three languages and taught in public schools in two countries.
This officer explained himself very well. The cameraman had absolutely no business interfering with the lawful performance of the LEO's duties; it *is* a crime in every state to do so. It's known by many names: Obstruction, interfering, disorderly conduct, etc.
@FoxeoGames Ahh here we go again.... "interfering with the lawful performance"???? You mean standing completely off to the side, not getting in the way at all while filming? Now simply doing something an officer does not like is "interfering"? This is exactly why street cops should have more education, because apparently after all yours you are still interested in blowing smoke up my ass.
Seriously, interfering with lawful performance? Talk about a bullshit charge.
@FoxeoGames By the way i have to admit, how fortunate for you and the other officers that you have MULTIPLE things you can charge someone for, for doing the same act. Funny how you can just spin things however you want as an officer and it somehow always seems to work out in your favor.
@tronclay There are two separate acts here. We can assume, although without solid proof, that since both officers told him he was parked illegally that he is indeed parked illegally. This video provides no evidence otherwise, and there's no justifiable reason to think they are lying.
Another charge is the obstructing, in which he is shouting at the officer demanding information while the officer is clearly in the performance of lawful duties.
@FoxeoGames How can you define this situation as "lawful duties"? You have ZERO clue as to whats being done before the video happens. If you are going to believe the officers that the man was parked illegally then you shall also assume that the camera man is not lying in saying that the officer sped up the breakdown lane without his lights on and only turned them on because the female officer almost pulled him over because SHE didnt know he was a cop either.
@tronclay The general public is to assume that an officer, giving the appearance of working, is in the performance of lawful duties. What reason did this cameraman have to approach and question the officer? What is he trying to accomplish?
This is beginning to sound like the cameraman was road raging, pulled over to yell at him, and then go this ass locked up over it. A classic case of why you don't road rage. Anyway, peace out, this is beyond ridiculous.
@FoxeoGames Right, I also assume that some guy wearing a tshirt and short in a red car like my grandmothers in an officer in the course of lawful duties. How fucking stupid of me.Did you not listen to the video or are you just leaving out the parts that dont work for you? He CLEARLY.... CLEARLY states that the officer (in the red car) sped up the breakdown lane with no lights on. The camera man obvious felt that this was a very unsafe situation and decided to film the situation.
@tronclay Yet no proof of that happened. All depending on dept. policy, police dont nessecarily have to have lights on when first catching up to a suspect vehicle. They can accelerate to catch up to the vehicle and then light it up. But unless its a high speed pursuit its a grey area. And honestly the camera guy had no business being there. He was just being a dickhead looking for trouble. That undercover had no reason to present ID or a badge to someone outside the investigation.
@FoxeoGames I also find it funny how instead of replying to my comments regarding people walking on the side of the road and officers walking on the road during traffics, instead you just try and convince me that the officer barked enough orders and he should have been listened to. You probably cant answer my questions because you probably dont even KNOW the answers, just like the officer in the video. maybe hes not the only one who needs a re-education for their job....
@tronclay I ran out of space; it's hard to debunk all of the misinformation in just one comment box.
Definition of "emergency" is up to court interpretation, but you'd be hard-pressed to argue that stopping to videotape someone is an "emergency." Car trouble or significant health problems would constitute an emergency.
Officers are permitted to violate minor laws if required in the performance of otherwise lawful LE duties. Example, "Running a red light on the way to a hold-up"
@FoxeoGames I have seen many people put in the hospital and even killed by police officers stepping over the line. If someone i cared about was being harrassed by an officer i would consider it of the utmost importance to record EVERYTHING. An officer knowing he is being recorded could be the difference between him crossing the line and KILLING someone or not.
Why in gods name would you NOT want someone 20 yards away filming you unless you were trying to hide something?
@tronclay Why on earth would you ever want to be recorded while you go about your day? Why do you think so many celebrities end up attacking paparazzi? It's annoying to have someone following you around videoing you. While it isn't illegal, in this case the cameraman stepped over the line and interfered with the officer conducting lawful duties.
Besides, this idea that he might have killed the person had he not been videoed? Borderline ridiculous assertion; it's extremely remote.
@FoxeoGames Officers record me with their dashcam but i shouldnt record them with my cellphone. Makes perfect sense in assbackwards-cop-land. The camera man was not in the officers way and simply asked who he was because he didnt even know if he was a cop or not. No proof of any laws being broken, just a cop with a short fuse whos camera shy. If you think i assumed he would be killed if not for recording you are just twisting my words like an asshole for the sake of arguing.
ur a dumb ass.... 1 for stepping into the officers traffic stop to question him about his driving. if u have a complaint about that officer there are proper ways to address it, i.e. go to the police station/ cityhall/ or sheriffs dept and speak with a supervisor. and 2 he told u what he was going to do if u did not leave... now with all that being said i dont see where any of ur 4th amend. rights were violated.
Here is my argument, getting rid of drug laws doesn't stop the vice. Say we eliminate illegal immigration laws, does it make illegal immigrants go away? Does it help solve the problem created by illegal immigration? Laws are created to curb a problem in society, and there was a problem that made drug laws be effected. A crime is an action that contravenes an existing law. So even drug trafficking is a real crime.
@tronclay It is standard procedure to shut off any electronic devices that are seized pursuant to an arrest. Some officers may not do so, but I always shut off or harmlessly disable all electronic devices. I power-down cell phones and cameras or remove the battery.
@FoxeoGames Why is it standard procedure? You get paid to follow procedure maybe thats why you dont care what it is or how it come to be, you just follow it regardless. I see no reason to power down an electronic device other than to prevent the person from continuing to record unlawful actions by the cop.
@tronclay Are you arguing the tired and always ridiculous "mind control" or "brain washed" argument?
It must be nice to completely discount someone's opinion by conveniently just telling yourself that they are brain washed by the dark forces of the universe. Jedi mind tricks by Sith lords, perhaps?
No, officers have to exercise a TON of discretion every day. I would say most of our encounters result in an exercise of discretion: arrest or not? ticket or not? Thus, thought occurs!
@Sirkinney Good arrest my ass. You are so arrogant that I hope you are investigated. I'm sure you've infringed on the rights of almost everyone you come in contact with by the way you talk. What a gift to humanity.....keep persecuting.... errr I mean protecting your fellow citizen buddy. I know I feel a lot safer now that this guy is locked up and we ended up spending a bunch of tax dollars paying this idiot cop, a judge, jail staff and a lawyer. What a country!
@JeremyKinser I'm still a state cop do this day jeremy, cause I do my job and do it correctly jeremy. every arrest made has nothing to do with your particular safety jeremy. some arrest need to be made and some may not have to be made jeremy. but you don't decide that shit jeremy. I (on the other hand) do and can make that decision jeremy. your tax dollars don't go directly to police jeremy. stop bitch'n jeremy, make a change in the system jeremy. good luck jeremy. good arrest jeremy.
@Sirkinney No you crooked sociopath, you don't get to decide the laws. The laws are written by legislature, not some cop with a highschool diploma. You are supposed to uphold all laws, not pick and choose which ones you wish to enforce. Oh well, that's probably takes too much brain power eh sarge? You can vouch for the arrest all you want, I don't give a shit. You are just showing people your true colors when you talk your shit. It's only a matter of time before you learn.....
@Sirkinney People like you are the reason Americans are so fed up with the police. There are a lot of good officers, and then pukes like you put a shit stain on their reputations. Oh well, at least I don't have to put up with you, that's for sure.
@JeremyKinser sure jeremy. you changed alot with all your comments. its a good arrest, and I would have done the same. perhaps jeremy it's people like YOU who think they can say and do what ever they want....and you learned from watching this video that you can't. your crooked J. Your all that you have called me. And yet all that you have said changes nothing. doesn't change the laws, doesn't change the arrest in this video, doesn't change the arrests i've made. changes nothing.
@Sirkinney You prove my point better than I ever could. You think your badge puts you above other people.... it doesn't. Take that badge off and you are just a punk hick. Why would you be any different when you put a badge on? Is it a super badge that makes you smarter and better equipped to handle high pressure situations?...nope. I've never even had a traffic ticket, so you can shove your crooked comment up your pig ass. You are the one who is crooked and thinks he is above reproach!
@Sirkinney So there are no hick blacks? Ok whatever you say. A police officer needs to be held accountable for his actions that put citizens in harms way. Was there a better way for the person to approach the officer about it? Was he supposed to take the plate number down and go file a complaint? Why shouldn't the citizen be able to hold the officer accountable on scene? If he can't who will? There are policies on how a police vehicle should be operated, especially unmarked vehicles.
@JeremyKinser Yes. He could have waited until the officer was done. THEN ask for the officers name and badge and tell the officer that he's going to make a complaint about his driving. When the officer is done and the officer doesn't provide the information asked then the officer is acting like a dick. But a citizen can't hold an officer accountable for shit, because a citizen doesn't know a cops job. if the cop drove like a fuck just to turn into mcdonalds or something then thats
@Sirkinney Why do you contradict yourself? You state the citizen could have made the complaint a better way, yet you say "But a citizen can't hold an officer accountable for shit because ...." Right there you prove my point. You are so arrogant you don't believe the average citizen knows their rights. It doesn't take a degree to be a cop buddy. Recognizing dangerous driving by an officer in response to a non-threatening situation can be achieved by even society's most challenged.
@JeremyKinser unless he's pulling up to mcdonalds driving like a fuck, how in the hell do you know that he's responding to a non-threatening situation? you don't. a foot note: you need an AA degree to be a cop for us. Jeremy listen. your still doing a lot of talking that has not and will not change shit. Get off youtube and go make a change if you don't like the way shit is. Run for president and make a change kid. You really think you have a valid point? sit down
@JeremyKinser and write your local county or state rep. Write to somone who may actually give a shit because I don't. Your not going to change shit challenging people on YOUTUBE. I've made over 2,500 (mostly narcotic arrests and a handful like the one on this video) and I'm still on the job because my work is clean, my work is good. I don't need or want a pat on the back. I don't need your OK to do what I do. I don't care what your think kid and there's your facts. and there's nothing
@JeremyKinser Now, do the only thing your capable of doing, which is cussing and throwing a trantrum cause that's all your really capable of. perhaps it's because your education isn't strong enough, or your mother didn't breast feed you when you were a baby, perhaps you father wasn't there for you or maybe it's because you know your world isn't strong enough to handle what you CAN'T change. I don't know, I don't care, not my problem.
@Sirkinney Look back through this thread jackass. You are the one who started the cussing so get off that high horse and back into the shithole you call your life. I am doing something about the fucked up laws and the OVER abundance of dipshit cops like yourself. I am voting Ron Paul in 2012 and am active in his campaign in my city. I can't wait until your budget is SLASHED to zero. We don't need idiots enforcing drug laws. Focus on violent crimes and thefts and you'll get more respect!
@JeremyKinser Not looking for respect J. Not worried about it. The budget slash? I've been on too long, so it won't effect me too much. Actually my cut calculated comes out to be about 7%. So instead of the upper 90's it will put me in the lower 90's., but I'll go the afternoons that will give me another 5% increase so it will be only a 2 % hit. I'll end up in the mid 90's. What ever. I could make in the low 80's and it wouldn't effect me I'm not in out rageous debt or anything.
@Sirkinney Oh I wasn't talking about the current budget slashes. I was talking about cutting all narcotics departments funded by federal dollars if Ron Paul is elected. I don't wish anyone out of a job including you, but I do wish we'd focus on REAL crime and have more oversight on civil rights abuses. Maybe they'll move you to property crimes, theft or violent crime task forces. When you aren't picking on drug users you may actually be able to somewhat clean up your county. Good luck son
@JeremyKinser it's interesting that you say that. In florida they need narcotic teams TRUST ME. But I did undercover stings so we did the dealers and the suppliers. sure there's teams for the buyers, but I did the other side for 8 years. I left that back in January of this year. 8 years was long enough of the close calls and being in court almost every day of my your life ect. I'd tell ya what I do now, but that would probably just piss you off more. Lets say though
@JeremyKinser I'm in a better position to help the common man while out and about and police presents in what I do goes a long way. But the cuts have given alot of pink slips to other state and county officers that had just started their careers. crime has gone up since the cuts as well as making our jobs alot more dangerous and perhaps making some cops more aggressive because they know back up is not what it was. But, what ever keeps the money in the pockets of our polititions.
@Sirkinney Just think how much money you'd have to fight real crime if there weren't stupid drug laws? You'd have all that federal drug enforcement money to use for real crime fighting. Then those 'criminals' wouldn't even be criminals at all. All the money that was used to fight the war on drugs could be used on education, prevention, rehab and fighting real crime. That's how you help the common man is to preach those ideas!
@JeremyKinser I seriously hope that you are talking about mainly the legalization of weed only. If you're talking about cutting things across the board, man oh man are you a complete idiot. Police will NEVER win the war on drugs, but they DO keep it from spreading worse than it would if they stopped fighting it. Some drug laws are stupid, agreed, but you seem to be preaching something a lot broader than that.
@codylong1980 Tell that to the country of Portugal who legalized all drugs over 10 years ago. They have WAY lower usage and crime rates than the US. Crime has fallen since implementation. People said the same fear mongering things you spew but they were dead wrong. It worked so well that the UN has eaten its own words and commended them. criminalization of drug use is barbaric and idiotic. People don't need the government to tell them what they can put in their bodies!
@aes30006 Let's be real here kiddo. You are trying to mince my words. Portugal, which in 2001 became the first European country to officially abolish all criminal penalties for personal possession of drugs, including marijuana, cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine. That stands as legalization as far as I'm concerned. Especially when compared to other countries. And they have way lower usage and crime rates.
@JeremyKinser a good complaint on the citizens part. see J, your problem is that your trying to black and white this whole thing or one angle this thing. In a unmark sometimes the lights aren't so great (bright enough) so maybe sometimes (i have before) you rush up to the car your trying to stop and get close enough to activate your lights (using an unmark) so the person can see the lights and or the person second guesses running off because your already on his ass. but again i'm not
@JeremyKinser trying to convince you of anything. At this point I don't think you'll ever get. You seem to be stuck on your opinion. Everyone has an opinion, but the arrest was a good. It was in orange county (orlando florida) case which I have access to. He was charge with a simple misdemeanor. the guy did 7 hours in jail (if that ) because of processing and bonded out. He paid a small court fine. You just can't walk into a police scene and get in the way. you just can't.
@Sirkinney Narcotics officer? Yah, you guys aren't doing much else than wasting the tax payers money to harass otherwise law abiding citizens. I won't even get into that bullshit. It's no wonder you don't mind spending our tax dollars to avoid a complaint. Tell me what was so serious that he had to dart through traffic without lights? There was already a marked patrol on site wasn't there? What was the rush and what was so important he couldn't listen? NOTHING! He just didn't want to listen
@Sirkinney And you are right, you can't convince me. You're a moron who thinks he is above the law. You think a badge gives you freedom to do what you want, but it doesn't and sooner or later you'll learn that. Now kid, go back to raping the rights of your fellow citizen. Rid the world of the evil dope smoker. One day they will look back upon people like you as we look upon slave owners. These draconian drug laws show such bigotry against people who ingest a drug other than alcohol....sad!
fucking "protocol." you don't know a cops job so stop trying to tell cops what to do. You get your facts from fucking t.v.. why don't you do a ride along jeremy with your local police whos area is a shit hole. ride with them for a few days, then i'll listen to what you have to say. guarantee it won't be the shit your spewing out now.
@Sirkinney And by the way dipshit! My neighbor of 9 years is a police officer and I take him out fishing on my boat all the time. He knows a lot of morons like yourself, but at least he has a head on his shoulders. The bottom line is that you think a badge means you are above the law. It means you are supposed to protect and serve buddy but you don't understand the responsibility you've been given. Oh well just another typical pig....
@JeremyKinser I don't care if you take him fishing, your sucking his dick who fucking cares. Trust me, unless yall live in small town where everyone knows eachother and fucking eachother, your neighbor "police officer" is not going to allow someone to come onto his scene when he's trying to deal with shit and have some dude who decides to involve himself into a police scene stick around and be in the way. If he does, then his officer safety skills sucks and he's a pussy.
@Sirkinney Just like I thought, you are nothing but a coward. You call an officer a pussy if he doesn't infringe on a citizens right to complain of ILLEGAL driving by a police officer. No we don't live in a small town and no my neighbor doesn't take shit from people and no I don't always agree with the way he acts. It seems that all cops believe they are better than the average man. Truth is that when you take that badge off, you are less than an average man if you act like you say you do.
Great fucking arrest. Wanna be some type of attorney. Good arrest and by the book. The moron that title this should know what he's talking about because this title to this video is bullshit.
HAHAHAH THATS WHAT YOU GET SHITHEAD!!! I hope someone in jail punks you bitch. Im a law abiding citizen,and you shithead pulitzer chasing pen jockeys out looking for the big scoop ( insert yawn here) need to stay the hell out of the way of the fucking police and let them keep our asses safe. Oh, did I mention FUCK YOU?
This was NOT an unlawful arrest. You're were interfering. I love how idiots like you think you have the power to do anything simply by possessing a video camera. Grow up!!
@gorka5270 It sounded to me that the citizen was concerned enough with the reckless driving of the officer that he exercised his rights to complain. The officer should have provided his ID and then given the man notice to move his vehicle. Refusing to give ID and simply going straight to intimidation isn't the correct procedure according to ANY police policy. It was unlawful of the officer to not provide his identification when asked....period. Instead he resorted to intimidation. what a pig
@JeremyKinser that's what it sounded like, but that's not what it was. and it wasn't UNLAWFUL for the officer not to provide ID. The issue wasn't the ID at the time. An officer doesn't have to show you ID if he's not COMING TO YOU ASKING YOU SHIT. This asshole went to a police scene and decided to get in the middle of it. OOPPs. He shouldn't have done that. It's not that the cop is a pig, it's your fucking ignorant and obvioulsy related to the guy with the camera
@Sirkinney Give me a break moron. So citizens aren't allowed to be concerned when police don't follow their own protocol? Just sit back and let them do whatever they want right? Fuck that and fuck you! They do have to provide their ID upon request especially when confronted by a citizen who believes they were not following protocol. You can't endanger others just because you are a cop! They have rules to follow too!
@JeremyKinser What's police protocol? Lets see if you know. Explain protocol. I'v ebeen in law enforcement for 17 years; I've never heard that term "protocol." And there was a marked police car on scene with a uniformed officer. Explain this "protocol" business and lets see if you can do it without cussing me. You come on my scene uninvited and I tell you to leave my scene and you don't your going to jail, bu I'll listen to your protocol concern.
@Sirkinney first off, if you don't know what protocol is and you are an officer of over 17 years, then I feel for the poor bastards that had to put up with your ignorant self. the citizen clearly stated his concerns that the officer was driving recklessly with his lights and siren off!! that's not protocol buddy. go check your regulations and you'll see that you can't just burn around without lights and sirens. it puts others in danger plain and simple.
@JeremyKinser no bitch. don't skate your way out of it. explain "protocol". You claim to know what it is so fucking explain it. A cop heading to a call quickly doesn't always mean in emergency mode, but he might have to get there before the shit becomes one. Maybe he's heading to intercept a vehicle that won't pull over for another cop and he's getting to the area so he'll be in position to help. you wouldn't run that in emergency mode either. there's NO "protocol" to every situation
@Sirkinney You stupid little fuck! Protocol is the all encompassing term for the policies and procedures an officer must follow when performing his duties. If you have never heard the word before, then you are simply a dipshit who knows nothing and shouldn't carry a gun or have any authority! The protocol that was not followed (policy in this case) was hauling ass weaving in and out of traffic in an unmarked car without sirens or lights on. There you go BITCH! Now go read a book!
@JeremyKinser Jeremy. Listen kid, let me tell you about protocol. First them you take that word and shove it up your mothers flat ass. When I served in the marines and the shit hits the fan protocol goes out the fucking window you civilian. When your a cop and your trying to put yourself in the best position to help, protocol goes out the window. standard proceedures is for standard situations. Most shit on the street isn't standard. Lol. wow kid your just clueless.
@Sirkinney And this explains your idiocy... you think you are in a war against your fellow citizens. This aint Vietnam idiot! You can call me a kid all you want but I'm as old as you are. The difference is that I've grown up. You wanna talk about my mother? Lol....you are the kiddo. A good cop always follows protocol. Nothing ever goes out the window if you have a good head on your shoulders. Even split second reactions can be executed by protocol if you are trained well.
@JeremyKinser that's the best comment you can come up with? It was a good arrest Jeremy. I would have done the same. He can get my badge and department info on his arrest form. Protocol........LOL......lets see your protocol when a guy breaks a glass bottle and comes at you, or when your partner is in a fight for his life; lets see how you would handle it. It was a good arrest kid, you don't have to agree, but no matter what or how you think about it, that's how it is.
This just goes to prove that if you see a cop break the law and call him on it they will put you in jail for whatever bullshit reason they think of! Always have a camera recording at all times if possible!!! Oh yeah and WTF did "exactly" mean? They were committing a crime and knew there was evidence!!
@CSATexan You know nothing about the law (you're an Obama voter for sure), its called infringing on an investigation, he was told 3-4 times to move, and stop it. And he was arrested, so he needs to shut the fuck up and back away. Hes a dirty cunt.
Obama voter??? NO I didn't vote for no one named Obama.
2nd how is video taping infringing on an investigation???? The Cop stopping what he was doing and arresting him did more to interfere with the so called investigation than anything else.
@TCB12453 public has the right to observe. He also has the right to confront any officer and ask for his business card if he is on duty. Its actually illegal to threaten someone to leave when they ask for your business card (which the DOJ issues as a form of identification for LEO). I could got at least a million dollars for this guy if i was his lawyer. Now stfu and dont be a neo nazi cop who acts like they know the law. Get a BAR card then talk
@WhatTheHitMarker really who told you that, cause there full of it. Most states that dont allow recording have whats called the "right of consent" so if you have a sign that says im recording audio and video below your camera. Its 100% legal by an officer approaching him and saying what are you doing and seeing the sign under a federal ruling thats the officer giving consent. Much as you do when a police officer walks up and says how are you doing then will say can i have your id.
@WhatTheHitMarker then you don't know what the hell your talking about and have no business even saying something so ridiculous.. would you agree? if your from another country then wth would you know about our laws and or why would you want to. I know there's other countries but when your commenting on American law in a video about Americans with an Orlando police officer whos under the US law. maybe focus on your laws before trying to correct me on our laws... cause it wont happen.
@blueshiftchess This is what makes reasonable discussions impossible vie the internet. Idiots like yourself. I would like to know about your laws so try responding with some sort of decency. Maybe focus on your banking legislation before you try and lecture me.
@WhatTheHitMarker if you wanted to know you should have said "i may be mis informed, but isnt it illegal to distribute photographs or video of law enforcement" Then instead of being called an idiot i would have explained no there are consent to record states which require both parties for "AUDIO" recording. Which is why people get in trouble for video recording cause most cameras you cant turn off the microphone. but you could so inform the officer if it does.
@WhatTheHitMarker what you did is create a debate after you called me wrong. So instead of having the opportunity (you might not be used that word since your not from the usa). But then ud have the opportunity to create an open dialog on the subject. dont call someone a liar (in theory) and then be like why are you such a dick cause i called you a liar and was wrong.
@WhatTheHitMarker you can also break it down to dual consent. But none of this matters. So whoever the nazi was that told you that is a liar. Unless they made some new nazi law within the past 120 days... which wouldnt surprise me. But you dont need a police officers consent (federal ruling), in most cases even in the 12 states with consent laws. You can still video record publicly, An distribute as much as you want... ima need some sort of statute or something cause i know your full of it..
this is what happens when cops gain to much control.
it should be a requirement to be in the military so u will have that honor and integrity drilled into u.
well mabye not but cops who are dicks and are cought on camera being dicks should be reprimanded and givin civil relations traning not every one is a criminal and people who speak up are not criminals if ur wrong ur wrong even if ur a cop.
@CSATexan, Yes in fact I have passed the bar and Texas law makes it a second-degree felony to intentionally intercept (using a device) or attempt to intercept any wire, electronic or oral communication, or have someone intercept a communication on one's behalf. Violation is punishable by imprisonment of two to twenty years, a fine of up to $10,000 or both. Now businesses are dfferent because you are fore-warned when you enter a store that there is surveillance.
What a load of bullshit. Where do you practice (and I do mean Practice law anyway)????
That law does not cover when the person does not have an expectation of privacy. Like for example sitting on the freeway.
But don't take my word for it. 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals just ruled that People have a clearly established right to film the police in public as long as they do so peacefully and do not interfere with officers’ duties
@milezvstheworld You didn't pass the bar........you stopped in and had a few (too many) Do you talk bullshoy by ear or by note? The cop never mentioned the camera. He said "interfering with an investigation." If you know Jack about law; you know trhis charge is a joke. No plaintiff, no death, personal injury or property damage. Cop must alledge a violation of legal right (ie cause of action) How many elements are involved in a valid cause of action? Back to the bar. This time don't stop! Peace
@CSATexan To start with, cops don't usually know a lot about law. They go write bogus tickets, a county attorney/prosecutor states what a great job he did, the judge says guilty, you open your wallet......caqse closed. We have been trained to accept this. We have been trained to be either in awe of or in fear of the law. From the cop to the judge; it's a big club and you can't be a member. Get to know some law, get an out of town lawyer, and be prepared to appeal to the next level of court.
@CSATexan By now you must have realized that no matter how obvious a case of police misconduct is, there will always be someone (or more) that will defend him and blame the citizen. A friend of mine was walking home on a lonely street one night. 2 guys he didn't know were walking behind him. He was relieved when they turned off on another st. He said to me "thank God they weren't cops; I'd have been scared shitless." If he was serious, that's pathetic.
@CSATexan I'm assuming you are some child who does not comprehend the laws and how police matters work so I'll keep this simple, the reporter interfered with a vehicle stop (there is your interference) and in Orlando, it is against the law to audio record any individual without prior consent (that is part of the wiretapping laws) So, hope that helped.
We can start with the nonsense of it is against the law to record anyone in public. The courts have ruled time and again against the idea that their is no expectation of privacy while in public. But since you are the one with the bar room law degree.
Call the police and tell them that the Payless Car Rental on 5309 McCoy Rd. Is illegally recording people. They even have audio of some burgles who I can assure you didn't give their consent.
It's self-proclaimed "reporters" like this that hurt our rights more than anything. Being a self-righteous arrogant bitch will lead the police dept to create policy to give police MORE leeway to deal with this type of crap. So thanks for eroding our rights, asshole.
Here's a tip, if you really want to investigate, start by doing a ride-along. Get to know the police chief and the officers on a personal level. Don't hop out of your car during a stop on the side of a busy road and make demands.
I don't think this cop was totally in the wrong considering the simple fact that the cameraman shouldn't have gotten in the way. There was an officer( The woman) who wasn't dealing with a citizen, that is who the discussion should have consisted of. Besides, if he was trying to conceal his identity he would have improperly concealed his badge, it was properly around his neck.
the cop had every right to arrest him, he clearly states he is interferring in his duty, so to all the dickheads out there saying he arrested him just coz he pissed him off is bullshit. How would you like it if your trying to do your job, aswell with the pressure that a cop has, and some dickhead hassling you? not very fun.
@Mrgibbsy72 its another example of cops doing what they want and obviously your a cop or associated with cops do to your statement. cops work for us. someone needs to keep them right but try filming one and see the response - this is the response.
the female officer told the guy to quietly stand out of the way...he wouldn't keep his mouth shut so they asked him to leave....well within their rights they are trying to conduct an investigation....He was interfering...period...I have filmed cops doing stuff all the time just hoping to see some get tazed or get a beat down...I have never been told to leave or turn off my camera even in LA!
@613maccabee why cause I like to watch douche bags get their asses kicked? or because I think you shouldn't interfere with officers trying to do their jobs....do you even know what the first ammendment is? tell ya what go look it up....post what you think then I'll explain to you why your dumbass is wrong....you probably won't understand but I'll at least try ok dipshit?
Seriously? how can anyone stand up for this douche bag...he stopped and interfered with an officer doing his job cause the cop passed him on the right....there is a reason their vehicles are exempt asshole....and his lights were goin when you pulled up so not buying that part. He got what he deserved
@stevent2969 It would interesting to see what his department policy is regarding unmarked cars and passing on the right. The local departments around me all have policies to NEVER pass on the right no matter what. They are also not allowed to make vehicle stops in unmarked cars.
Laws are one thing but department all have their own policies which officers are also expected to know and obey. More than one way to catch a cop not following the rules.
@silvermediastudio Policy are RULES a cop has to follow as part of his job. Courts, including the Supreme Court, have used a department's policies as evidence to decide cases for decades now.
Some times a cop doesn't get in trouble for breaking a law, but he'll get in trouble for breaking his department's policy.
So it's always good to check a department's policy on a given matter if you ever have an issue with a police officer's conduct.
@candlstudios I'm not disagreeing with you, but there is an important distinction between law and policy that you apparently fail to appreciate.
Law cannot be broken or circumvented regardless of circumstances. However, policy is more flexible, and LEO are given discretion to work as needs arise. The question not answered here is 'why did he pass on the right?' Perhaps traffic was obstructing his path on the left and he took the most expeditious, safe route around traffic. We don't know.
If you think I'm confusing policy with law I think you're ignoring the obvious. This cop doesn't want to be recorded for some reason. I can only think of one reason why he doesn't want to be recorded.
He did (or is doing) something he doesn't want video evidence of. Can you acknowledge that much?
The other cop on the scene didn't seem to have a problem with it. I think that says something about this cop's actions.
I love how he says they made an unlawful search and seizure of his video tape...LOL, You don't need a warrant to seize property on a suspect's person.
BigPapaBear1000 2 days ago
I hope you sued their ass
rubay101 2 weeks ago
@rubay101
sued for what? he was illegally parked and was interfering with an investigation. If he had not talked or illegally parked he could have legally recorded all day long. you can not break a few laws to attempt to justify things you are allowed to do.
zayahV 1 week ago
Good arrest. Total loser looking for trouble. What's new.
31488Andrew 2 weeks ago
meh. he asked him to leave as he was parked illegally the guy refused by keeping on asking him for id and such. He was identified by a uniformed officer as a police officer. I dont see how this was an illegal arrest. if the guy got back into his car and left he wouldnt have been arrested but his sense of self entitlement got the better of him.
Dunington 3 weeks ago
If this is an expressway, most states prohibit stopping your vehicle unless it is an emergency. Stopping to videotape something does not constitute an emergency and would thus be a crime.
This man was given several warnings and it was clearly explained to him that he cannot park his vehicle where he did. It is also unlawful for pedestrians to walk on the highway. He refused the lawful order and was legally arrested.
FoxeoGames 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames So What is an emergency? Do you have a definition of emergency or is that just yet another "at the officers discretion" BS definition? Is an emergency having a heart attack or dropping a lit cigarette? His job is to record and his skills were needed, perhaps thats his work emergency? And if its unlawful to "walk on the highway" then anyone who pulls over and gets out is breaking the law. An officer who pulls someone over and walks over to them is breaking the law?
tronclay 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames Its clear after reading your comment and watching the video that you are just sticking up for a fellow cop. The cop told him a couple times he was illegally parked and when the man responded by asking for his information the officer refused to give it to him and said if he didnt leave hed be arrested, the man asked another question and was arrested. Nothing was "clearly explained", it was an arrogant prick cop barking orders demanding compliance and obedience.
tronclay 1 month ago
@tronclay He was told what his violation was, and given multiple chances to act so as to avoid any legal consequences.
At 1:18, he is told he's pulled off the side of the road illegally.
At 1:22, he understands he's being asked to move and refuses
At 1:42 he's told again he's illegally parked and can be arrested
At 1:46 he's warned again
At 1:49 he's lawfully ordered to leave
At 1:52 he's told he's interfering
At 1:55, after six warnings he's arrested.
FoxeoGames 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames Huh. Wierd. At 1:22 all i see is the guy saying "Ihave a right to shoot" and the officer saying "I know."..... SO uhhh.... what video were you watching or are you in "stick up for a fellow cop" mode to the point where obvious shit isnt obvious to your eyes?
The officer cant look him in the eyes and explain what hes doing wrong and explain why hes lawfully required t p;eave then first he shouldnt expect compliance and second he shouldnt be a fucking police officer.
tronclay 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames If you can not explain yourself and your action at ALL TIMES then you should not be doing what you are doing as a police officer. Plain. And. Simple. Officers like you take shortcuts and fuck up the way things should work by taking things into your own hands and issuing out streetside justice. Let people that took more than 6 months of community college classes handle the heavy thinking, just do your jobs and follow the LAW while doing it if you expect citizensto belaqful
tronclay 1 month ago
@tronclay You do not know me at all, so it would be impossible for you to know if I take "shortcuts," whatever that means. The officer here was very clear.
At 1:22 the cameraman says, "I'm not moving," which indicates he knew he was being asked to move.
Regardless, I've given more than ample proof of the procedures of this officer. If you still refuse to accept it, then you may never understand the law and how it is applied.
FoxeoGames 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames If i say "Im not taking a shit" does that mean i know ive been asked to take a shit? Of course not, now you are stipulating that you can read this mans mind. Another thing i guess cops are good at, which is why nobody bats an eyelash when they arrest people for things as silly as "talking back". The thing is youve given NO proof. Proof comes in writing from state legislature, not from the mouth of some street cop who knows less law than some smartass college kid.
tronclay 1 month ago
@tronclay OK, eliminate 1:22 entirely and he still receives 5 warnings prior to arrest.
What proof do you want? The quoted state law? Here's what you're looking for:
Florida Statutes Title XXIII, 316.194 "Stopping, standing or parking outside of municipalities."
I have a feeling you'll still come back with something. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like you just have a general anti-police attitude; you WANT him to be wrong, yes?
FoxeoGames 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames I want him to be wrong? The guy thats "supposed" to help keep me and my family safe, you think I WANT some of them to be downright lowdown scumbags?
What you call warnings i call orders being barked out by an asshole cop. The cop had no patience or professionalism, he answered no questions for the man whatsoever he simply has the "cop" attitude: "Comply or ill make you pay for questioning my authority". Lose the attitude that I owe you ANYTHING for YOUR job choice.
tronclay 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames I read your statutes and i see nothing stating that this man was breaking the law as a pedestrian for standing where he was. Keep in mind the TITLE of the legislature or statute means nothing if the definition doesnt back it up. The statute made ZERO mention of pedestrians and laws pertaining to them, unless i missed them.
I also see zero proof that this man was parked on the "paved or main-traveled path" of the highway, he could have been parked on the dirt whichisLegal
tronclay 1 month ago
@tronclay The statute was about parking on a non-municipal highway. He parked his vehicle on the highway, and both officers mentioned it. Are you saying we should assume he didn't have a vehicle? You're then assuming; this video is not the full story, it's only what it is.
Both officers acknowledged he was in violation. If you insist on believing they are lying, that's your choice to be biased and prejudicial without the evidence to back up your prejudices. It shows your character
FoxeoGames 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames First off it says "hes pulled off to the sid eof the road illegally". The cop makes no mention of if hes on or off the pavement. Secondly, if you are so adamant that what the officer says goes and if you dont follow it you pay the consequences then why is it that when the man says "I have a right to film" and the female officer says "i know" you dont take that as proof that he IS allowed to record because the god damn officer just SAID he could???
tronclay 1 month ago
@tronclay You're arguing that there's no horse because we can't see the horse. This video is proof of why video doesn't "speak for itself;" there are numerous questions here we can't answer because video is limited -- you only see what the camera is pointed at. You cannot prove he's not parked on the pavement, I can't prove he is -- but those officers can see if he is.
The act in question is not the recording; the camera is irrelevant. The acts are the two laws I already mentioned
FoxeoGames 1 month ago
@tronclay You're arguing that there's no horse because we can't see the horse. This video is proof of why video doesn't "speak for itself;" there are numerous questions here we can't answer because video is limited -- you only see what the camera is pointed at. You cannot prove he's not parked on the pavement, I can't prove he is -- but those officers can see if he is.
The act in question is not the recording; the camera is irrelevant. The acts are the two laws I already mentioned
FoxeoGames 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames The two laws which i responded to already saying that they have no bearing if the camera man was either NOT parked on the pavement OR the cop wasnt acting lawfully. YOU assume both things are the way YOU want them to be as an officer. I look at the VIDEO and derive what i can from it. Video doesnt speak for itself? Tell that to a court of law. The officer was asked for identification, rightfully so as he wasnt in uniform and he refused to show it. Is that now unlawful?
tronclay 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames The fact of the matter is an officer can SAY whatever he chooses but it does NOT make him correct or even mean hes being truthful. If you are so naive as to think that he couldnt possibly be lying then im afraid your apparent education wasnt worth the government army money that most likely paid for it. You need examples of cops lying ON video? Say the word or just search it yourself, you couldnt possibly avoid them all.
tronclay 1 month ago
@tronclay So what are you saying? We should just assume that two officers, in broad daylight and to a man with a camera running, are blatantly lying about where he parked his car? What if this man just turned around and videoed his vehicle, wouldn't that settle it? Did the man object to their claim he was parked on the side of the highway?
What are we doing here, just assuming that all officers lie? How is that not prejudicial and judging without the facts? What is your reasoning?
FoxeoGames 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames why assume anything? IM going by the PROOF and EVIDENCE in the video. Evidence, reasonable suspiscion etc etc.... Things you seem to care nothing about as an officer which is very concerning. Oh the officer say this and yadayadayada... Yeah i guess you are right, cased closed, just because the cop said so.
tronclay 1 month ago
@tronclay I really shouldn't bother, but here's the other law the officer referenced:
Title XLVI 843.02 Resisting officer without violence to his or her person.—Whoever shall resist, obstruct, or oppose any officer ... in the lawful execution of any legal duty, without offering or doing violence to the person of the officer, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
This is Florida's version of "obstruction."
FoxeoGames 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames And the part that somehow even officers seem to forget.... "IN THE >>>LAWFUL<<< EXECUTION OF ANY LEGAL DUTY". The video shows zero proof of the camera mans car being on the "paved or main traveled" path of the highway. So at this point, the camera man can make the argument that his car was nowhere near the pavement and who are you to argue? Intelligent people and yes even cops, should go by whats obvious and apparent, not by what they feel like doing at th emoment.
tronclay 1 month ago
@tronclay I'm an officer and I've had over 6 years of college. I have a BA in Education with dual majors. I speak three languages and taught in public schools in two countries.
This officer explained himself very well. The cameraman had absolutely no business interfering with the lawful performance of the LEO's duties; it *is* a crime in every state to do so. It's known by many names: Obstruction, interfering, disorderly conduct, etc.
FoxeoGames 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames Ahh here we go again.... "interfering with the lawful performance"???? You mean standing completely off to the side, not getting in the way at all while filming? Now simply doing something an officer does not like is "interfering"? This is exactly why street cops should have more education, because apparently after all yours you are still interested in blowing smoke up my ass.
Seriously, interfering with lawful performance? Talk about a bullshit charge.
tronclay 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames By the way i have to admit, how fortunate for you and the other officers that you have MULTIPLE things you can charge someone for, for doing the same act. Funny how you can just spin things however you want as an officer and it somehow always seems to work out in your favor.
tronclay 1 month ago
@tronclay There are two separate acts here. We can assume, although without solid proof, that since both officers told him he was parked illegally that he is indeed parked illegally. This video provides no evidence otherwise, and there's no justifiable reason to think they are lying.
Another charge is the obstructing, in which he is shouting at the officer demanding information while the officer is clearly in the performance of lawful duties.
Those are two separate issues.
FoxeoGames 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames How can you define this situation as "lawful duties"? You have ZERO clue as to whats being done before the video happens. If you are going to believe the officers that the man was parked illegally then you shall also assume that the camera man is not lying in saying that the officer sped up the breakdown lane without his lights on and only turned them on because the female officer almost pulled him over because SHE didnt know he was a cop either.
tronclay 1 month ago
@tronclay The general public is to assume that an officer, giving the appearance of working, is in the performance of lawful duties. What reason did this cameraman have to approach and question the officer? What is he trying to accomplish?
This is beginning to sound like the cameraman was road raging, pulled over to yell at him, and then go this ass locked up over it. A classic case of why you don't road rage. Anyway, peace out, this is beyond ridiculous.
FoxeoGames 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames Right, I also assume that some guy wearing a tshirt and short in a red car like my grandmothers in an officer in the course of lawful duties. How fucking stupid of me.Did you not listen to the video or are you just leaving out the parts that dont work for you? He CLEARLY.... CLEARLY states that the officer (in the red car) sped up the breakdown lane with no lights on. The camera man obvious felt that this was a very unsafe situation and decided to film the situation.
tronclay 1 month ago
@tronclay Yet no proof of that happened. All depending on dept. policy, police dont nessecarily have to have lights on when first catching up to a suspect vehicle. They can accelerate to catch up to the vehicle and then light it up. But unless its a high speed pursuit its a grey area. And honestly the camera guy had no business being there. He was just being a dickhead looking for trouble. That undercover had no reason to present ID or a badge to someone outside the investigation.
BigPapaBear1000 3 days ago
@FoxeoGames I also find it funny how instead of replying to my comments regarding people walking on the side of the road and officers walking on the road during traffics, instead you just try and convince me that the officer barked enough orders and he should have been listened to. You probably cant answer my questions because you probably dont even KNOW the answers, just like the officer in the video. maybe hes not the only one who needs a re-education for their job....
tronclay 1 month ago
@tronclay I ran out of space; it's hard to debunk all of the misinformation in just one comment box.
Definition of "emergency" is up to court interpretation, but you'd be hard-pressed to argue that stopping to videotape someone is an "emergency." Car trouble or significant health problems would constitute an emergency.
Officers are permitted to violate minor laws if required in the performance of otherwise lawful LE duties. Example, "Running a red light on the way to a hold-up"
FoxeoGames 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames I have seen many people put in the hospital and even killed by police officers stepping over the line. If someone i cared about was being harrassed by an officer i would consider it of the utmost importance to record EVERYTHING. An officer knowing he is being recorded could be the difference between him crossing the line and KILLING someone or not.
Why in gods name would you NOT want someone 20 yards away filming you unless you were trying to hide something?
tronclay 1 month ago
@tronclay Why on earth would you ever want to be recorded while you go about your day? Why do you think so many celebrities end up attacking paparazzi? It's annoying to have someone following you around videoing you. While it isn't illegal, in this case the cameraman stepped over the line and interfered with the officer conducting lawful duties.
Besides, this idea that he might have killed the person had he not been videoed? Borderline ridiculous assertion; it's extremely remote.
FoxeoGames 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames Officers record me with their dashcam but i shouldnt record them with my cellphone. Makes perfect sense in assbackwards-cop-land. The camera man was not in the officers way and simply asked who he was because he didnt even know if he was a cop or not. No proof of any laws being broken, just a cop with a short fuse whos camera shy. If you think i assumed he would be killed if not for recording you are just twisting my words like an asshole for the sake of arguing.
tronclay 1 month ago
I didnt know it was unlawful to not listen to a lawful order?
flute1234 1 month ago
Look @ those tits
smitherszx7 1 month ago
ur a dumb ass.... 1 for stepping into the officers traffic stop to question him about his driving. if u have a complaint about that officer there are proper ways to address it, i.e. go to the police station/ cityhall/ or sheriffs dept and speak with a supervisor. and 2 he told u what he was going to do if u did not leave... now with all that being said i dont see where any of ur 4th amend. rights were violated.
jph090880 1 month ago
Here is my argument, getting rid of drug laws doesn't stop the vice. Say we eliminate illegal immigration laws, does it make illegal immigrants go away? Does it help solve the problem created by illegal immigration? Laws are created to curb a problem in society, and there was a problem that made drug laws be effected. A crime is an action that contravenes an existing law. So even drug trafficking is a real crime.
kimaich 1 month ago
cop 1 "make sure its off"
cop 2 "exactly"
Anyone need more proof of why cops are out of control?
tronclay 1 month ago
@tronclay It is standard procedure to shut off any electronic devices that are seized pursuant to an arrest. Some officers may not do so, but I always shut off or harmlessly disable all electronic devices. I power-down cell phones and cameras or remove the battery.
FoxeoGames 1 month ago
@FoxeoGames Why is it standard procedure? You get paid to follow procedure maybe thats why you dont care what it is or how it come to be, you just follow it regardless. I see no reason to power down an electronic device other than to prevent the person from continuing to record unlawful actions by the cop.
tronclay 1 month ago
@tronclay Are you arguing the tired and always ridiculous "mind control" or "brain washed" argument?
It must be nice to completely discount someone's opinion by conveniently just telling yourself that they are brain washed by the dark forces of the universe. Jedi mind tricks by Sith lords, perhaps?
No, officers have to exercise a TON of discretion every day. I would say most of our encounters result in an exercise of discretion: arrest or not? ticket or not? Thus, thought occurs!
FoxeoGames 1 month ago
by the way Jeremy out of all this bull shit. it was still a GOOD ARREST kid.
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney Good arrest my ass. You are so arrogant that I hope you are investigated. I'm sure you've infringed on the rights of almost everyone you come in contact with by the way you talk. What a gift to humanity.....keep persecuting.... errr I mean protecting your fellow citizen buddy. I know I feel a lot safer now that this guy is locked up and we ended up spending a bunch of tax dollars paying this idiot cop, a judge, jail staff and a lawyer. What a country!
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser I'm still a state cop do this day jeremy, cause I do my job and do it correctly jeremy. every arrest made has nothing to do with your particular safety jeremy. some arrest need to be made and some may not have to be made jeremy. but you don't decide that shit jeremy. I (on the other hand) do and can make that decision jeremy. your tax dollars don't go directly to police jeremy. stop bitch'n jeremy, make a change in the system jeremy. good luck jeremy. good arrest jeremy.
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney No you crooked sociopath, you don't get to decide the laws. The laws are written by legislature, not some cop with a highschool diploma. You are supposed to uphold all laws, not pick and choose which ones you wish to enforce. Oh well, that's probably takes too much brain power eh sarge? You can vouch for the arrest all you want, I don't give a shit. You are just showing people your true colors when you talk your shit. It's only a matter of time before you learn.....
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@Sirkinney People like you are the reason Americans are so fed up with the police. There are a lot of good officers, and then pukes like you put a shit stain on their reputations. Oh well, at least I don't have to put up with you, that's for sure.
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser sure jeremy. you changed alot with all your comments. its a good arrest, and I would have done the same. perhaps jeremy it's people like YOU who think they can say and do what ever they want....and you learned from watching this video that you can't. your crooked J. Your all that you have called me. And yet all that you have said changes nothing. doesn't change the laws, doesn't change the arrest in this video, doesn't change the arrests i've made. changes nothing.
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney You prove my point better than I ever could. You think your badge puts you above other people.... it doesn't. Take that badge off and you are just a punk hick. Why would you be any different when you put a badge on? Is it a super badge that makes you smarter and better equipped to handle high pressure situations?...nope. I've never even had a traffic ticket, so you can shove your crooked comment up your pig ass. You are the one who is crooked and thinks he is above reproach!
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser I'm not a hick jeremy, I'm black jeremy. it was a good arrest jeremy
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney So there are no hick blacks? Ok whatever you say. A police officer needs to be held accountable for his actions that put citizens in harms way. Was there a better way for the person to approach the officer about it? Was he supposed to take the plate number down and go file a complaint? Why shouldn't the citizen be able to hold the officer accountable on scene? If he can't who will? There are policies on how a police vehicle should be operated, especially unmarked vehicles.
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser Yes. He could have waited until the officer was done. THEN ask for the officers name and badge and tell the officer that he's going to make a complaint about his driving. When the officer is done and the officer doesn't provide the information asked then the officer is acting like a dick. But a citizen can't hold an officer accountable for shit, because a citizen doesn't know a cops job. if the cop drove like a fuck just to turn into mcdonalds or something then thats
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney Why do you contradict yourself? You state the citizen could have made the complaint a better way, yet you say "But a citizen can't hold an officer accountable for shit because ...." Right there you prove my point. You are so arrogant you don't believe the average citizen knows their rights. It doesn't take a degree to be a cop buddy. Recognizing dangerous driving by an officer in response to a non-threatening situation can be achieved by even society's most challenged.
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser unless he's pulling up to mcdonalds driving like a fuck, how in the hell do you know that he's responding to a non-threatening situation? you don't. a foot note: you need an AA degree to be a cop for us. Jeremy listen. your still doing a lot of talking that has not and will not change shit. Get off youtube and go make a change if you don't like the way shit is. Run for president and make a change kid. You really think you have a valid point? sit down
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser and write your local county or state rep. Write to somone who may actually give a shit because I don't. Your not going to change shit challenging people on YOUTUBE. I've made over 2,500 (mostly narcotic arrests and a handful like the one on this video) and I'm still on the job because my work is clean, my work is good. I don't need or want a pat on the back. I don't need your OK to do what I do. I don't care what your think kid and there's your facts. and there's nothing
Sirkinney 2 months ago
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Sirkinney 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser Now, do the only thing your capable of doing, which is cussing and throwing a trantrum cause that's all your really capable of. perhaps it's because your education isn't strong enough, or your mother didn't breast feed you when you were a baby, perhaps you father wasn't there for you or maybe it's because you know your world isn't strong enough to handle what you CAN'T change. I don't know, I don't care, not my problem.
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney Look back through this thread jackass. You are the one who started the cussing so get off that high horse and back into the shithole you call your life. I am doing something about the fucked up laws and the OVER abundance of dipshit cops like yourself. I am voting Ron Paul in 2012 and am active in his campaign in my city. I can't wait until your budget is SLASHED to zero. We don't need idiots enforcing drug laws. Focus on violent crimes and thefts and you'll get more respect!
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser Not looking for respect J. Not worried about it. The budget slash? I've been on too long, so it won't effect me too much. Actually my cut calculated comes out to be about 7%. So instead of the upper 90's it will put me in the lower 90's., but I'll go the afternoons that will give me another 5% increase so it will be only a 2 % hit. I'll end up in the mid 90's. What ever. I could make in the low 80's and it wouldn't effect me I'm not in out rageous debt or anything.
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney Oh I wasn't talking about the current budget slashes. I was talking about cutting all narcotics departments funded by federal dollars if Ron Paul is elected. I don't wish anyone out of a job including you, but I do wish we'd focus on REAL crime and have more oversight on civil rights abuses. Maybe they'll move you to property crimes, theft or violent crime task forces. When you aren't picking on drug users you may actually be able to somewhat clean up your county. Good luck son
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser it's interesting that you say that. In florida they need narcotic teams TRUST ME. But I did undercover stings so we did the dealers and the suppliers. sure there's teams for the buyers, but I did the other side for 8 years. I left that back in January of this year. 8 years was long enough of the close calls and being in court almost every day of my your life ect. I'd tell ya what I do now, but that would probably just piss you off more. Lets say though
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser I'm in a better position to help the common man while out and about and police presents in what I do goes a long way. But the cuts have given alot of pink slips to other state and county officers that had just started their careers. crime has gone up since the cuts as well as making our jobs alot more dangerous and perhaps making some cops more aggressive because they know back up is not what it was. But, what ever keeps the money in the pockets of our polititions.
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney Just think how much money you'd have to fight real crime if there weren't stupid drug laws? You'd have all that federal drug enforcement money to use for real crime fighting. Then those 'criminals' wouldn't even be criminals at all. All the money that was used to fight the war on drugs could be used on education, prevention, rehab and fighting real crime. That's how you help the common man is to preach those ideas!
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser I seriously hope that you are talking about mainly the legalization of weed only. If you're talking about cutting things across the board, man oh man are you a complete idiot. Police will NEVER win the war on drugs, but they DO keep it from spreading worse than it would if they stopped fighting it. Some drug laws are stupid, agreed, but you seem to be preaching something a lot broader than that.
codylong1980 1 month ago
@codylong1980 Tell that to the country of Portugal who legalized all drugs over 10 years ago. They have WAY lower usage and crime rates than the US. Crime has fallen since implementation. People said the same fear mongering things you spew but they were dead wrong. It worked so well that the UN has eaten its own words and commended them. criminalization of drug use is barbaric and idiotic. People don't need the government to tell them what they can put in their bodies!
JeremyKinser 1 month ago
@JeremyKinser You Sir, are wrong. I am Portuguese and drugs have not been legalized in my country. Get your facts first.
aes30006 1 month ago
@aes30006 Let's be real here kiddo. You are trying to mince my words. Portugal, which in 2001 became the first European country to officially abolish all criminal penalties for personal possession of drugs, including marijuana, cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine. That stands as legalization as far as I'm concerned. Especially when compared to other countries. And they have way lower usage and crime rates.
JeremyKinser 1 month ago
@JeremyKinser alright J. Happy Thanksgiving kid! and if your celebrate it Merry X-Mas
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser a good complaint on the citizens part. see J, your problem is that your trying to black and white this whole thing or one angle this thing. In a unmark sometimes the lights aren't so great (bright enough) so maybe sometimes (i have before) you rush up to the car your trying to stop and get close enough to activate your lights (using an unmark) so the person can see the lights and or the person second guesses running off because your already on his ass. but again i'm not
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser trying to convince you of anything. At this point I don't think you'll ever get. You seem to be stuck on your opinion. Everyone has an opinion, but the arrest was a good. It was in orange county (orlando florida) case which I have access to. He was charge with a simple misdemeanor. the guy did 7 hours in jail (if that ) because of processing and bonded out. He paid a small court fine. You just can't walk into a police scene and get in the way. you just can't.
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney Narcotics officer? Yah, you guys aren't doing much else than wasting the tax payers money to harass otherwise law abiding citizens. I won't even get into that bullshit. It's no wonder you don't mind spending our tax dollars to avoid a complaint. Tell me what was so serious that he had to dart through traffic without lights? There was already a marked patrol on site wasn't there? What was the rush and what was so important he couldn't listen? NOTHING! He just didn't want to listen
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@Sirkinney And you are right, you can't convince me. You're a moron who thinks he is above the law. You think a badge gives you freedom to do what you want, but it doesn't and sooner or later you'll learn that. Now kid, go back to raping the rights of your fellow citizen. Rid the world of the evil dope smoker. One day they will look back upon people like you as we look upon slave owners. These draconian drug laws show such bigotry against people who ingest a drug other than alcohol....sad!
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
fucking "protocol." you don't know a cops job so stop trying to tell cops what to do. You get your facts from fucking t.v.. why don't you do a ride along jeremy with your local police whos area is a shit hole. ride with them for a few days, then i'll listen to what you have to say. guarantee it won't be the shit your spewing out now.
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney And by the way dipshit! My neighbor of 9 years is a police officer and I take him out fishing on my boat all the time. He knows a lot of morons like yourself, but at least he has a head on his shoulders. The bottom line is that you think a badge means you are above the law. It means you are supposed to protect and serve buddy but you don't understand the responsibility you've been given. Oh well just another typical pig....
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser I don't care if you take him fishing, your sucking his dick who fucking cares. Trust me, unless yall live in small town where everyone knows eachother and fucking eachother, your neighbor "police officer" is not going to allow someone to come onto his scene when he's trying to deal with shit and have some dude who decides to involve himself into a police scene stick around and be in the way. If he does, then his officer safety skills sucks and he's a pussy.
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney Just like I thought, you are nothing but a coward. You call an officer a pussy if he doesn't infringe on a citizens right to complain of ILLEGAL driving by a police officer. No we don't live in a small town and no my neighbor doesn't take shit from people and no I don't always agree with the way he acts. It seems that all cops believe they are better than the average man. Truth is that when you take that badge off, you are less than an average man if you act like you say you do.
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser good thing your young. One day you'll figure it out as you get older and a little more wiser. Maybe.
Sirkinney 2 months ago
Lol
Sirkinney 2 months ago
Great fucking arrest. Wanna be some type of attorney. Good arrest and by the book. The moron that title this should know what he's talking about because this title to this video is bullshit.
Sirkinney 2 months ago
dumbass
chivasx90 2 months ago
wow first video where the cop isn't the jackass.
styx87 2 months ago
@styx87 no. only the first one you have decided to look up.
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney i don't understand what your talking about?
styx87 2 months ago
@styx87 I'm sorry charlie brown. I was commenting on something you said awhile back. nevermind.
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney you block-head
styx87 2 months ago
HAHAHAH THATS WHAT YOU GET SHITHEAD!!! I hope someone in jail punks you bitch. Im a law abiding citizen,and you shithead pulitzer chasing pen jockeys out looking for the big scoop ( insert yawn here) need to stay the hell out of the way of the fucking police and let them keep our asses safe. Oh, did I mention FUCK YOU?
SavageSS2010 2 months ago
This was NOT an unlawful arrest. You're were interfering. I love how idiots like you think you have the power to do anything simply by possessing a video camera. Grow up!!
gorka5270 2 months ago
@gorka5270 It sounded to me that the citizen was concerned enough with the reckless driving of the officer that he exercised his rights to complain. The officer should have provided his ID and then given the man notice to move his vehicle. Refusing to give ID and simply going straight to intimidation isn't the correct procedure according to ANY police policy. It was unlawful of the officer to not provide his identification when asked....period. Instead he resorted to intimidation. what a pig
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser that's what it sounded like, but that's not what it was. and it wasn't UNLAWFUL for the officer not to provide ID. The issue wasn't the ID at the time. An officer doesn't have to show you ID if he's not COMING TO YOU ASKING YOU SHIT. This asshole went to a police scene and decided to get in the middle of it. OOPPs. He shouldn't have done that. It's not that the cop is a pig, it's your fucking ignorant and obvioulsy related to the guy with the camera
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney Give me a break moron. So citizens aren't allowed to be concerned when police don't follow their own protocol? Just sit back and let them do whatever they want right? Fuck that and fuck you! They do have to provide their ID upon request especially when confronted by a citizen who believes they were not following protocol. You can't endanger others just because you are a cop! They have rules to follow too!
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser What's police protocol? Lets see if you know. Explain protocol. I'v ebeen in law enforcement for 17 years; I've never heard that term "protocol." And there was a marked police car on scene with a uniformed officer. Explain this "protocol" business and lets see if you can do it without cussing me. You come on my scene uninvited and I tell you to leave my scene and you don't your going to jail, bu I'll listen to your protocol concern.
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney first off, if you don't know what protocol is and you are an officer of over 17 years, then I feel for the poor bastards that had to put up with your ignorant self. the citizen clearly stated his concerns that the officer was driving recklessly with his lights and siren off!! that's not protocol buddy. go check your regulations and you'll see that you can't just burn around without lights and sirens. it puts others in danger plain and simple.
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser no bitch. don't skate your way out of it. explain "protocol". You claim to know what it is so fucking explain it. A cop heading to a call quickly doesn't always mean in emergency mode, but he might have to get there before the shit becomes one. Maybe he's heading to intercept a vehicle that won't pull over for another cop and he's getting to the area so he'll be in position to help. you wouldn't run that in emergency mode either. there's NO "protocol" to every situation
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney You stupid little fuck! Protocol is the all encompassing term for the policies and procedures an officer must follow when performing his duties. If you have never heard the word before, then you are simply a dipshit who knows nothing and shouldn't carry a gun or have any authority! The protocol that was not followed (policy in this case) was hauling ass weaving in and out of traffic in an unmarked car without sirens or lights on. There you go BITCH! Now go read a book!
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser Jeremy. Listen kid, let me tell you about protocol. First them you take that word and shove it up your mothers flat ass. When I served in the marines and the shit hits the fan protocol goes out the fucking window you civilian. When your a cop and your trying to put yourself in the best position to help, protocol goes out the window. standard proceedures is for standard situations. Most shit on the street isn't standard. Lol. wow kid your just clueless.
Sirkinney 2 months ago
@Sirkinney And this explains your idiocy... you think you are in a war against your fellow citizens. This aint Vietnam idiot! You can call me a kid all you want but I'm as old as you are. The difference is that I've grown up. You wanna talk about my mother? Lol....you are the kiddo. A good cop always follows protocol. Nothing ever goes out the window if you have a good head on your shoulders. Even split second reactions can be executed by protocol if you are trained well.
JeremyKinser 2 months ago
@JeremyKinser that's the best comment you can come up with? It was a good arrest Jeremy. I would have done the same. He can get my badge and department info on his arrest form. Protocol........LOL......lets see your protocol when a guy breaks a glass bottle and comes at you, or when your partner is in a fight for his life; lets see how you would handle it. It was a good arrest kid, you don't have to agree, but no matter what or how you think about it, that's how it is.
Sirkinney 2 months ago
Why do people always have to put their nose where it doesn't belong! He had no business there and just wanted to cause trouble.
AVeryNiceEverything 3 months ago
@AVeryNiceEverything He was exercising his rights. Something we should all know about.
nameisty 3 months ago
@nameisty yes but you are not allowed to park in the emergency lane to film im pretty sure.
AVeryNiceEverything 3 months ago
This just goes to prove that if you see a cop break the law and call him on it they will put you in jail for whatever bullshit reason they think of! Always have a camera recording at all times if possible!!! Oh yeah and WTF did "exactly" mean? They were committing a crime and knew there was evidence!!
notanova 3 months ago
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notanova 3 months ago
This camera guy is such a dick. What the hell were you even trying to do interrupting a traffic stop. You got what you deserved.
sg1can 3 months ago
And this proved what?????
Vicwatcher133 4 months ago
You got owned!
PornDawgDaddy 4 months ago
Uh, he wasn't just photographing. He was getting involved, offering his opinion, etc. Bye.
adam1885282 4 months ago
wftv sucks...guy deserved to get cuffed..i hope he got a "girlfriend" in jail..wesh news bitches
imdudits1 4 months ago
ROFL! Dumb ASS reporter.
99minerkc 4 months ago
Don't be an asshole and you won't be arrested. Stfu and stop bitching, you deserved it.
TCB12453 4 months ago
@TCB12453
To start with being an asshole isn't a crime neither is talking or bitching. Other than you not liking he guy just what crime did he commit?
CSATexan 4 months ago
@TCB12453 your a nazi too
4godaddygo 4 months ago
@4godaddygo nazi?heil hitler???huh
4godaddygo 4 months ago
Pigs...
SoulShepherd84 4 months ago
This reporter is a jackass! He got what he deserved.
kermitquaint 4 months ago
@kermitquaint
Being a jackass isn't a crime. How on earth can you claim that he should have been arrested for something that isn't illegal
CSATexan 4 months ago
@CSATexan You know nothing about the law (you're an Obama voter for sure), its called infringing on an investigation, he was told 3-4 times to move, and stop it. And he was arrested, so he needs to shut the fuck up and back away. Hes a dirty cunt.
TCB12453 4 months ago
@TCB12453
Obama voter??? NO I didn't vote for no one named Obama.
2nd how is video taping infringing on an investigation???? The Cop stopping what he was doing and arresting him did more to interfere with the so called investigation than anything else.
CSATexan 4 months ago
@TCB12453 public has the right to observe. He also has the right to confront any officer and ask for his business card if he is on duty. Its actually illegal to threaten someone to leave when they ask for your business card (which the DOJ issues as a form of identification for LEO). I could got at least a million dollars for this guy if i was his lawyer. Now stfu and dont be a neo nazi cop who acts like they know the law. Get a BAR card then talk
blueshiftchess 4 months ago
@blueshiftchess you can't distribute photographs of law enforcement agents without consent.
WhatTheHitMarker 3 months ago
@WhatTheHitMarker really who told you that, cause there full of it. Most states that dont allow recording have whats called the "right of consent" so if you have a sign that says im recording audio and video below your camera. Its 100% legal by an officer approaching him and saying what are you doing and seeing the sign under a federal ruling thats the officer giving consent. Much as you do when a police officer walks up and says how are you doing then will say can i have your id.
blueshiftchess 3 months ago
@blueshiftchess Im not from the states, there are other countries out there.....Sorry. Iknow the must divulge badge number when requested.
WhatTheHitMarker 3 months ago
@WhatTheHitMarker then you don't know what the hell your talking about and have no business even saying something so ridiculous.. would you agree? if your from another country then wth would you know about our laws and or why would you want to. I know there's other countries but when your commenting on American law in a video about Americans with an Orlando police officer whos under the US law. maybe focus on your laws before trying to correct me on our laws... cause it wont happen.
blueshiftchess 3 months ago
@blueshiftchess This is what makes reasonable discussions impossible vie the internet. Idiots like yourself. I would like to know about your laws so try responding with some sort of decency. Maybe focus on your banking legislation before you try and lecture me.
WhatTheHitMarker 3 months ago
@WhatTheHitMarker if you wanted to know you should have said "i may be mis informed, but isnt it illegal to distribute photographs or video of law enforcement" Then instead of being called an idiot i would have explained no there are consent to record states which require both parties for "AUDIO" recording. Which is why people get in trouble for video recording cause most cameras you cant turn off the microphone. but you could so inform the officer if it does.
blueshiftchess 3 months ago
@WhatTheHitMarker what you did is create a debate after you called me wrong. So instead of having the opportunity (you might not be used that word since your not from the usa). But then ud have the opportunity to create an open dialog on the subject. dont call someone a liar (in theory) and then be like why are you such a dick cause i called you a liar and was wrong.
blueshiftchess 3 months ago
@WhatTheHitMarker you can also break it down to dual consent. But none of this matters. So whoever the nazi was that told you that is a liar. Unless they made some new nazi law within the past 120 days... which wouldnt surprise me. But you dont need a police officers consent (federal ruling), in most cases even in the 12 states with consent laws. You can still video record publicly, An distribute as much as you want... ima need some sort of statute or something cause i know your full of it..
blueshiftchess 3 months ago
this is what happens when cops gain to much control.
it should be a requirement to be in the military so u will have that honor and integrity drilled into u.
well mabye not but cops who are dicks and are cought on camera being dicks should be reprimanded and givin civil relations traning not every one is a criminal and people who speak up are not criminals if ur wrong ur wrong even if ur a cop.
firebirdbill89gta 4 months ago
@CSATexan, Yes in fact I have passed the bar and Texas law makes it a second-degree felony to intentionally intercept (using a device) or attempt to intercept any wire, electronic or oral communication, or have someone intercept a communication on one's behalf. Violation is punishable by imprisonment of two to twenty years, a fine of up to $10,000 or both. Now businesses are dfferent because you are fore-warned when you enter a store that there is surveillance.
milezvstheworld 5 months ago
@milezvstheworld
What a load of bullshit. Where do you practice (and I do mean Practice law anyway)????
That law does not cover when the person does not have an expectation of privacy. Like for example sitting on the freeway.
But don't take my word for it. 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals just ruled that People have a clearly established right to film the police in public as long as they do so peacefully and do not interfere with officers’ duties
Do you need their phone number
CSATexan 5 months ago
@milezvstheworld You didn't pass the bar........you stopped in and had a few (too many) Do you talk bullshoy by ear or by note? The cop never mentioned the camera. He said "interfering with an investigation." If you know Jack about law; you know trhis charge is a joke. No plaintiff, no death, personal injury or property damage. Cop must alledge a violation of legal right (ie cause of action) How many elements are involved in a valid cause of action? Back to the bar. This time don't stop! Peace
ohannahdad 4 months ago
@ohannahdad
I think that milezvstheworld likes to watch Law and Order all the time.
CSATexan 4 months ago
@CSATexan To start with, cops don't usually know a lot about law. They go write bogus tickets, a county attorney/prosecutor states what a great job he did, the judge says guilty, you open your wallet......caqse closed. We have been trained to accept this. We have been trained to be either in awe of or in fear of the law. From the cop to the judge; it's a big club and you can't be a member. Get to know some law, get an out of town lawyer, and be prepared to appeal to the next level of court.
ohannahdad 4 months ago
@ohannahdad
I hear ya and agree bro. The police have been turned into tax collectors for the out of control city councils.
CSATexan 4 months ago
@CSATexan By now you must have realized that no matter how obvious a case of police misconduct is, there will always be someone (or more) that will defend him and blame the citizen. A friend of mine was walking home on a lonely street one night. 2 guys he didn't know were walking behind him. He was relieved when they turned off on another st. He said to me "thank God they weren't cops; I'd have been scared shitless." If he was serious, that's pathetic.
ohannahdad 4 months ago
@agnignus and to everyone else, he was arrested for violation of wiretapping laws and interferring.
milezvstheworld 5 months ago
@milezvstheworld
wiretapping laws and interfering.???
That doesn even make sense, if anything the police interfered with him not the other way around.
And just what does wiretapping laws mean??? It isn't unlawful to record anyone in public
CSATexan 5 months ago
@CSATexan I'm assuming you are some child who does not comprehend the laws and how police matters work so I'll keep this simple, the reporter interfered with a vehicle stop (there is your interference) and in Orlando, it is against the law to audio record any individual without prior consent (that is part of the wiretapping laws) So, hope that helped.
milezvstheworld 5 months ago
@milezvstheworld
We can start with the nonsense of it is against the law to record anyone in public. The courts have ruled time and again against the idea that their is no expectation of privacy while in public. But since you are the one with the bar room law degree.
Call the police and tell them that the Payless Car Rental on 5309 McCoy Rd. Is illegally recording people. They even have audio of some burgles who I can assure you didn't give their consent.
CSATexan 5 months ago
@agnignus and to everyone else, he was arrested for violation of wiretapping laws.
milezvstheworld 5 months ago
It's self-proclaimed "reporters" like this that hurt our rights more than anything. Being a self-righteous arrogant bitch will lead the police dept to create policy to give police MORE leeway to deal with this type of crap. So thanks for eroding our rights, asshole.
Here's a tip, if you really want to investigate, start by doing a ride-along. Get to know the police chief and the officers on a personal level. Don't hop out of your car during a stop on the side of a busy road and make demands.
silvermediastudio 5 months ago
I don't think this cop was totally in the wrong considering the simple fact that the cameraman shouldn't have gotten in the way. There was an officer( The woman) who wasn't dealing with a citizen, that is who the discussion should have consisted of. Besides, if he was trying to conceal his identity he would have improperly concealed his badge, it was properly around his neck.
califa213239 5 months ago
@califa213239 it's called jurisdiction. if this occured in city limits, she has none.
37butterflyprincess 5 months ago
@37butterflyprincess Discussing a matter or filing a complaint has no jurisdiction, only when it comes to criminal issues does this occur.
califa213239 5 months ago
that cruiser's camera wasnt pointed at the scene. when they do that they can get away with murder - no proof of anything.
PrimeTargetSecurity 5 months ago
the cop had every right to arrest him, he clearly states he is interferring in his duty, so to all the dickheads out there saying he arrested him just coz he pissed him off is bullshit. How would you like it if your trying to do your job, aswell with the pressure that a cop has, and some dickhead hassling you? not very fun.
Mrgibbsy72 5 months ago
@Mrgibbsy72 its another example of cops doing what they want and obviously your a cop or associated with cops do to your statement. cops work for us. someone needs to keep them right but try filming one and see the response - this is the response.
PrimeTargetSecurity 5 months ago
ALL COPS ARE ENEMIES OF THE US CONSTITUTION!!!
613maccabee 5 months ago
Wait, I'm confused. What was this investigation? The lady cop made it clear that there was no investigation, that it was closed, so...what the fuck?
LedZeppelin420666 5 months ago
thats what he fucken gets, fucken cam boy, even that bitch cop disagreed with him/her, well i say that cause he sounded like a bitch!
87vong 5 months ago
he was arrested for being a d-bag
BestTits 5 months ago
@BestTits No. He was exercising his first ammendment rights
613maccabee 5 months ago
@613maccabee still being a d-bag
BestTits 5 months ago
the female officer told the guy to quietly stand out of the way...he wouldn't keep his mouth shut so they asked him to leave....well within their rights they are trying to conduct an investigation....He was interfering...period...I have filmed cops doing stuff all the time just hoping to see some get tazed or get a beat down...I have never been told to leave or turn off my camera even in LA!
stevent2969 6 months ago
@stevent2969 Soyou are another piece of sssshit boot licker who thinks that it is OK for cops to abuse thier power?
613maccabee 5 months ago
@613maccabee why cause I like to watch douche bags get their asses kicked? or because I think you shouldn't interfere with officers trying to do their jobs....do you even know what the first ammendment is? tell ya what go look it up....post what you think then I'll explain to you why your dumbass is wrong....you probably won't understand but I'll at least try ok dipshit?
stevent2969 5 months ago
Seriously? how can anyone stand up for this douche bag...he stopped and interfered with an officer doing his job cause the cop passed him on the right....there is a reason their vehicles are exempt asshole....and his lights were goin when you pulled up so not buying that part. He got what he deserved
stevent2969 6 months ago
@stevent2969 It would interesting to see what his department policy is regarding unmarked cars and passing on the right. The local departments around me all have policies to NEVER pass on the right no matter what. They are also not allowed to make vehicle stops in unmarked cars.
Laws are one thing but department all have their own policies which officers are also expected to know and obey. More than one way to catch a cop not following the rules.
candlstudios 6 months ago
@candlstudios True. But policy is not law, simply a guideline for officers to follow. They are given discretion to perform their duties.
silvermediastudio 5 months ago
@silvermediastudio Policy are RULES a cop has to follow as part of his job. Courts, including the Supreme Court, have used a department's policies as evidence to decide cases for decades now.
Some times a cop doesn't get in trouble for breaking a law, but he'll get in trouble for breaking his department's policy.
So it's always good to check a department's policy on a given matter if you ever have an issue with a police officer's conduct.
That's why they have policies in the first place.
candlstudios 5 months ago
@candlstudios I'm not disagreeing with you, but there is an important distinction between law and policy that you apparently fail to appreciate.
Law cannot be broken or circumvented regardless of circumstances. However, policy is more flexible, and LEO are given discretion to work as needs arise. The question not answered here is 'why did he pass on the right?' Perhaps traffic was obstructing his path on the left and he took the most expeditious, safe route around traffic. We don't know.
silvermediastudio 5 months ago
@silvermediastudio I know the difference between laws and policies.
If you think I'm confusing policy with law I think you're ignoring the obvious. This cop doesn't want to be recorded for some reason. I can only think of one reason why he doesn't want to be recorded.
He did (or is doing) something he doesn't want video evidence of. Can you acknowledge that much?
The other cop on the scene didn't seem to have a problem with it. I think that says something about this cop's actions.
candlstudios 5 months ago
@candlstudios That's speculative.
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