As salamu alaika. This is very beneficial and may Allah reward our brother for this talk. Can you give me the evidence for the Jinn being on earth 2000 years before Adam?
an Arab scholar Ibn Khaldun actually came up with an idea similar to Darwin's theory of human evolution in 14th century in his book The Muqaddimah in which he says: The higher stage of man is reached from the world of monkeys, in which both sagacity and preception are found, but which has not reached the stage of actual reflection and thinking. At this point we come to the first stage of man. This is as far as our (physical) observation extends (pages 74-75)
3 minutes in and your still not talking about the start of everything? I don't get it. I only clicked this to try and here some of islam'screation myth, whatever that may be. Is it the same as the jews/christians? I have always asumed it was due to there conections.
How can you title this "creation acording to islam" and then spend the first 3 minutes blathering on about mohammad? Do you worship mohommad? Seems like it.
It's funny how Muslims make such a big deal about how Muhammad was illiterate, and yet he was able to write such an "amazing" book like the Quran. OK, I hear that it sounds beautiful in Arabic, but Homer was illiterate and sounds great in Greek. Also, the stories in the Quran were myths and accounts that were common to his time, although he put his own spin on them. There is no evidence that the Quran is the word of God, and there is no evidence for God.
@jerrytatum none of what you have said is true..the coran never said that semen came from the backbone..actually he describes exactly from where it comes and further more he describes the periods of pregnancy..and this is like 1400 years ago.
and for the second time there are no verse in the coran that says the earth is flat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@MrBillH60 hhhh..u really just dont know anything..actually mohammed came also with miracles which no man can do just go read some history..besides jesus and mohammed are just prophets from the same god..and we believe in both of them..and we muslims are much closer to jesus than you'll ever be.
and for those who say that the coran sais that the world is flat..plizzz stop saying thing if u havent actually read the coran..because he doesnt say so
''and we muslims are much closer to jesus than you'll ever be''
Lol, let's not forget your ancestors spat on the Cross for hundreds of years. Quite literally, before and after Saladin's reign. But no, you are not close to Jesus, as you so frightfully put it.
These are the comments of the ancient Muslim scholars word for word. Even some Saudi scholars wrote a book a few years ago to disprove the spherical aspect of the earth and they claimed that it is a myth, agreed with the above mentioned scholars, and said we must believe the Qur’an and reject the spherical aspect of the earth
The Koran teaches that the world is flat. This doctrine is believed by Islamic scholars even today. The Bible revealed that the earth is round in Isaiah 40:22. "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth".
The 1st is 2 determine who God is. Jesus came w/miracles to prove His authenticity as to who He was. Mohammad had no such proof. Jesus did that inwhich no man could do. Mohammad did that inwhich ANY man can do. The Holy Spirit came upon Jesus n God spoke from heaven pertaining to Jesus for all to see. Mohammad went into a cave for none to see but he. ANY man can say they went into a cave and say, Thus says the Lord. Jesus killed no man. Mohammad killed many.
@MrBillH60 oh yeah huw about adam dummy he had niether no mother and no father so if anything you idiot he wouldve been god. but there is no god but allah, all the prophets had powers that which no other had. for exmple musa or moses raising the entire sea,that is truly amazing i cant believe i was once a christian fool like you.
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29:19 See they not how Allah originates creation, then repeats it: truly that is easy for Allah.
29:20 Say: "Travel through the earth and see how Allah did originate creation; so will Allah produce a later creation: for Allah has power over all things.
Science can only, by definition, tell us the how of what's inside this universe. It cannot explain the why, and it cannot go further into issues outside of this universe, (i.e. Allah).
Stick to science no problem, but if you leave religion, you will find on the day of judgement how useful your words were.
The first law of thermodynamics discredits the idea of a supernatural being, for a supernatural being to impose itself on our universe from its realm would indicate a creation of energy, which breaks thermodynamics. Religion has less proof going for it than thermodynamics. Ergo, my money is with the physicists on this one.
I just want to point out a simple point. We all know by intuition that all things in our life have a maker. This computer, a pen, a house. Even a paper clip has a maker! No way can anyone accept a pen coming together on its own. Yet we can believe Human beings just came together on their own? how, is not the focus now, but can you accept that human beings just existing with no cause?
then you must also assume that this supernatural being had a cause. No? Didn;t think so. It raises more questions than it answers. Most things are created as a result of naturalistic causes, even watches can be looked at as an adaptation by humanity to know when the day ends. a naturalistic explanation puts a full stop to all of it. Oh, and if you dig into stuff like biochemistry, its quite easy to see how 'human beings could have come together'. Y'all just gotta look.
You're jumping the gun. And skipping my point for something you assume is greater in importance which you fail to understand.
I say, a naturalistic explanation is something that "raises more questions than it answers".
A higher power creating being puts a full stop to all of it, and unlike any other religion we have preserved, authentic revelation to make any topic crystal clear for anyone who asks.
You can take your own advice, "Y'all just gotta look"
Take smallpox for example. The naturalistic explanation is simple, it evolved, no grand supernatural reason for it to exist, every species for itself.
But for you, it's a problem.
Did god create smallpox? It's based on DNA, like us? Same goes with all other forms of deadly Bacteria and Viruses, where did they come from?
We point out the similarities between Chimp and Human DNA, and you say "Same genes same designer"
@IslamTalks Yea but youre defending an opinion not a factual theory. You believe a higher power exists because a man from the Middle East told you that. If he told you that elves and goblins exist you would also believe that. Science is not trying to destroy religion in fact; it is just the observation of nature. Science never said that there is no God but that theyre probably is no God. There is no evidence, no trace of him except writings that contradict themselves.
If your argument is that complexity requires a creator, then you must also understand that the creator must be equally, or more complex, than its creation.
This leaves you with a little problem.
Because if the creator is equally or more complex than the thing that you're saying requires a creator, then that logically, has to mean that the creator also has a creator, equally or more complex than himself, who, in turn, would also require a creator.
that would be true if we were living in a pre darwinian era.
we now know that we werent created but have evolved over millions of years. so creationism is merely psudeo sciencee made up by primitive individuals in a time before we knew what we know now.
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I challenge all the muslims to undergo hypnotism and they will discover what they were born as in their previous births. This will disprove Heaven, Hell, hellfire, judgement day and o fcourse Islam. search for Ramachandra Guruji` experiments in yotube and you will find out the real truth.
Is it a mercy by God that he made a magic apple, put Adam and Eve near it and told him not to eat it, made Satan tempt him and then when Adam did the natural pushed hm out of Heaven and kept fighting Satan ever since, and asked Mo to spread this nonsense and made him kill all non-believers. Isn`t he mad!
Relax guys,your debate has turned into mud slinging.I'm an athiest,my mother is a catholic eucharistic minister.We get along fine.I don't care what anyone else "believes".What I don't like is other people telling me I'm a bad or lost person because I don't follow what someone said a thousand or more years ago.We are all free to think what we wish and do what we wish as long as it does not negatively affect others.Which is,unfortunatly what I am finding fundamentalist sects to be doing.
Ofcourse! No one wants to hear about going to hellfire, having said that, will it change the facts of life?
We muslims say what we say with proofs, not out of our own desires. Why would we want to upset everyone? see.
You can live your life with the free choice Allah gave you. Look, it's not all fear and damnation, cause there's a way out, Islam, if you submit yourself to the creator and follow the teachings of the Messenger you can gain everything! What an amazing thing!
Allah presents the argument for those who deny the existence of God Almighty,
"Are humans created from nothing? or are they their own creators? Are they the creators of the earth and the universe? No way! Rather they are only uncertain."
Chapter 52: verses 35-36
So if you reject Allah as your creator, you will find nothing else certain about how you came about.
So stupid ...if you accepte religious dogma you are certain but you are stupide as hell it self...GCREATOR HAS NO IMAGE,HAS NO NAME,HAS NO BOOK,NEEDS NO WORSHIP,NO BILDINGS,NO LAWS but he does leave mark on his creations and we can see it ,we can hear it ...that is information....but that is outside the perception of most humans so they accept dogma. You are not free my friend...your life is dictated by the book
Look at you, trying to shame me for believing and being proud of yourself for being a non believer, your the one who is a loser and has no respect, religion aside I wish you said this to my face, why in the world you disrespect someone who hasn't said or done anything to you, oh yea your a non believer, who cares what I do there is no God after all, you are sick man, fuck you
WEll I guess you cannot get around the LOGIC I prosed to you, obviously, because you'd just rather " BELIEVE" .This goes directly AGAINST the supposed logic that you faith uses to back it's claims as to the VALIDITY of yor chosen faith. So forget logic huh ? You JUST cannot address the fact that "IF" god indeed has created us to "test" us, that this would be RIDICULOUS, due to the FACT that a TRUE god would ALREADY KNOW the outcome of such a "test". You cannot address this properly, can you ???
I have already told you dumb ass that God already knows the outcome, the test is a mercy for us, so that we know why we have the rank and position that we have, you are the one incapable of grasping this concept not me, Imagine we are all living in heaven except for some in hell those in hell would be like why are we here, so now we know why they are there cus they lived lives like you, you will not ask once to God why am I in hell cus you know how you lived your life,
So he(allah) knows the outcome right? So (for example), lets say you are a bad person, and he knows that you will do bad in this earth. So before even creating the earth and putting you in it, he says to you that you are going to be bad, and there for he's going to put you in hell straight away. What are you going to say? You will say,"but allah, you havent even tested me, Give me a chance". That is why allah let the test happen, so that you may see that you truly belong in hell or paradise.
How old were Adam and Eve when they ate apple? How old were they when they were created? How many days they spent without eating apple, and what they ate in -between? What was in that apple to make tehm aware that they were naked? What else they knew till then and what else they came to know along with nakedness? Why God made that apple ? Why that apple tree wasn`t fenced by God ? Why don`t you eat some apple and understand that all the Mo had told was for his own lust and greed.?
Dude you are lost, Life is a test, and there would be no point to life had there not been such a test. In the end all will be revealed and you will be among the losers if you keep that attitude.
A real " god" would not waste it's time on "tests". A real god would already KNOW the outcome of his test, PRIOR to there even being a test. Why don't you think logically, first, before you make such statements ?
People love to talk about how great god is, with all it's (his?) supposed unlimited powers, then they FORGET that god HAS these "unlimited" powers. Why "test" then, if god knows the outcome of it ? Does god like to waste his TIME ??? Apparently he does, which destroys your belief ....
Its a shame you speak like this, he already knows the outcome and he does not need the creation, the test is for us and it is a mercy for us if only you knew. Unfortunately you feel better about yourself if you think the way you do so ahead its your problem but dont call me weak its you the weak one
I am not ashamed of my comments I have to remove them you fool, and I bet your dumb ass doesn't even know what a quantum leap even is,but you are trying to make me seem dumb or uneducated because I believe in God and you must be smarter then me cus I you don't lmao, dude I understood relativity at the age of 10, physics is my favorite thing to study after religion and I could without Googling it explain a quantum leap in detail or layman's terms while you just use big words and insult believers
Brother be at peace...... when some one has a lock on there heart, they can't see any thing even if there is some thing as huge as sun before them. They just find logic and science and they never find it.. Dont be angry and frustrated. be at peace brother because you are among those lucky ones who have truth in there heart. blessings on you brother
The thing is...that every time a Prophet (as) is mentioned they say Allayhi Salaam (upon him be peace)..or InshaAllah is used A LOT...meaning God willing... they are very basic and used by many everywhere** Mohammad (pbuh, peace be upon him) they say sallalahu allayhi wa salaam...peace and blessings be upon him...I hope this helps a little**
I am trying to understand you friend...but it is hard because you keep talking in arabic to praise god or something. Please just speak in english friend, or maybe I should try learning arbic. In any case very hard to hear a coherent sentence
when you people make false accusation about Islam,God or the holy Quran...youre wrong!..If I do a sin it is between me and God...what the f**k you care..?..
leffe- answer to your question is "NO"!! But you should look up and see how much child molesters your country and the west has.Including s.d.d's,teen pregnancies,homo's, etc....you come to find out that your land has the most of these I mentioned above.....
"im only asking" lol sure your just asking...god forgive you for you do not know what you are speaking about..i suggest you educate yourself before asking about things you know absolutely nothing about.
But, of course, the real answer to you question is "Yes". More important than that, many present day Muslims use this as an example, and marry preteen grils or marry off there preteen daughters. The Iatola Komani stated "It is joyous if your daughter has her 1st period in her husbands house" !!!
The Quran states that the earth was flat and spread out like a carpet, that there were pillars holding up the sky to suspend the stars as lamps, that the sun revolved around the earth and not the other way around (never stating that the earth itself was in motion), and nowhere in the Quran is there any statement about evolution! The Quran even states that male sperm comes from the an area between the rib cage and spinal cord!
Uh, I've seen Kent Hovind's cornpone presentations. True, he does appeal to a certain undereducated segment of the population. If you dare, please seek ExtantDodo and Thunderf00t's refutation of Hovind's videos. It might save your life !
Hovind is a clown, he denies modern science to an extreme. I could refute this guy with one point, does light travel in a constant speed, yes, so how can we see stars billions of light years away if the universe is only 20000 years old as Hovind claims, simple, he is wrong.
i find it quite entertaining that ppl who nothing about the quran or islam feel they can make such ridiculous comments and form theories, id love to see how quickly youd be laughed out of a hospital if you went into a hospital full of doctors and tried to talk about medicine after having read one anatomy text book.
I find it quite entertaining that people think they can learn about the origin of the cosmos by studieing books written by people for whom the wheelbarrel would be cosidered emergent technology.
lol yes heres another person who has no idea what they are talking about...you guys are really entertaining really you are...to both commments above your comments only prove my point, you know nothing about islam or the holy quran. may allah forgive your sins and guide you.
Well, I don't know much about Astrology either. But I do know about history, science, astronomy. Enough to know that every primative society had a creation myth. And that each one was wrong.
in the 8th century, Ja'far al-Sadiq refuted the geocentric model of the universe common at the time, in which the Earth is not moving and the Sun, and the planets are orbiting around it.
What pre-modern Muslim scientists discovered and achieved has nothing to do with the Quran. Secondly, the Quran has many bizarre things to say, such as ants having the ability to talk, that man was created from clay, that the stars will fall down onto the earth when the sky becomes weak on judgement day, and has two different contradictory things to say about the length of Allah's day and which was created first: the heavens or the earth.
find it quite entertaining that ppl who nothing about the quran or islam feel they can make such ridiculous comments and form theories, id love to see how quickly youd be laughed out of a hospital if you went into a hospital full of doctors and tried to talk about medicine after having read one anatomy text book.
dont comment on which you know absolutely nothing about, i suggest you go educate yourself...you obviously know nothing about islam or the holy quran and i can bet you dont know much about modern science either or you would not feel compelled to talk on a topic you know nothing about..
hello 11 months a ago you made a statement, regarding what the quran say, i would say read the quran because thats not what its says, it quite the oppisite, i was a christian , im a convert to islam, the bible says those things, science proves the quran is valid, please do your reserach. i hope i have helped you in some way. may god bless you and your entire fameily.....
assala mu aly kum ( may peace and blessings be upon you) and may god give you wisdom and the power to reconise the truth
why are you all so sure!!!!! why be controlled by religion??????? thats goes for any religion by the way! i just dont get it why???????? self peservation,knowldge, and kindness to others is the only religion we should ever need!forget the rest!
People will realize that Islam has two faces: 'moderate' and 'extreme'. These 'two faces' have been designed to throw the host countries (which they have invaded) off the scent of the true agenda of Islam, which is to make EVERY human on EARTH abide by Sharia law, and everyone who does not will be allowed to live in these new Muslim lands, but will have to pay a special 'kuffar' tax, and be classed as second rate citizens, or in some cases slaves.
As salamu alaika. This is very beneficial and may Allah reward our brother for this talk. Can you give me the evidence for the Jinn being on earth 2000 years before Adam?
ibngray 22 hours ago
:) Hello in your channel
Philosophy122333 3 weeks ago
All I heard for several seconds was "AAAHHHKKKKKKKMED AHHHHHHHKAHHHHHKKKKKKKK I'M A TERRORIST DIE INFIDELS" and stopped watching.
Recoil816 3 months ago
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djhalling 3 months ago
God damn people are so stupid. Grow a brain people. This shit is made up.
TheHolyMongolEmpire 5 months ago
What a load of camel crap.
venomfanex 6 months ago
an Arab scholar Ibn Khaldun actually came up with an idea similar to Darwin's theory of human evolution in 14th century in his book The Muqaddimah in which he says: The higher stage of man is reached from the world of monkeys, in which both sagacity and preception are found, but which has not reached the stage of actual reflection and thinking. At this point we come to the first stage of man. This is as far as our (physical) observation extends (pages 74-75)
akkadianarab 7 months ago
3 minutes in and your still not talking about the start of everything? I don't get it. I only clicked this to try and here some of islam'screation myth, whatever that may be. Is it the same as the jews/christians? I have always asumed it was due to there conections.
How can you title this "creation acording to islam" and then spend the first 3 minutes blathering on about mohammad? Do you worship mohommad? Seems like it.
Ihatemelee 7 months ago
It's funny how Muslims make such a big deal about how Muhammad was illiterate, and yet he was able to write such an "amazing" book like the Quran. OK, I hear that it sounds beautiful in Arabic, but Homer was illiterate and sounds great in Greek. Also, the stories in the Quran were myths and accounts that were common to his time, although he put his own spin on them. There is no evidence that the Quran is the word of God, and there is no evidence for God.
Vincentaneous 8 months ago
come on, guys. the aliens created us. :D
carsch06 10 months ago
@BelfastAtheist
first you dont know a thing about my incestors
second you dont know a thing about jesus, actually his name is issa by the way
and finally go read some more, because if you were to debate with me i'll crush you
PS:you can start by chapter 19 of the coran (sourat maryam or mery) so that you would know how much we're close to him
you can also watch this :watch?v=JcMzHgq2zRo
kalels8 10 months ago
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Piss be unto him.
Eldeecue 11 months ago
Nine minutes and nineteen seconds of video. Not a single word on creation.
zukuss 1 year ago
Islam Talks Shite!
rogan71 1 year ago
@jerrytatum none of what you have said is true..the coran never said that semen came from the backbone..actually he describes exactly from where it comes and further more he describes the periods of pregnancy..and this is like 1400 years ago.
and for the second time there are no verse in the coran that says the earth is flat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STOP LYING to poeple!
kalels8 1 year ago
@MrBillH60 hhhh..u really just dont know anything..actually mohammed came also with miracles which no man can do just go read some history..besides jesus and mohammed are just prophets from the same god..and we believe in both of them..and we muslims are much closer to jesus than you'll ever be.
and for those who say that the coran sais that the world is flat..plizzz stop saying thing if u havent actually read the coran..because he doesnt say so
kalels8 1 year ago
@kalels8
''and we muslims are much closer to jesus than you'll ever be''
Lol, let's not forget your ancestors spat on the Cross for hundreds of years. Quite literally, before and after Saladin's reign. But no, you are not close to Jesus, as you so frightfully put it.
BelfastAtheist 10 months ago
Did you know - Quran plagiarised the wrong theory of ancient Greek scientists who believed that Semen originates from the backbone?
jerrytatum 1 year ago
Blunders in the Koran...
These are the comments of the ancient Muslim scholars word for word. Even some Saudi scholars wrote a book a few years ago to disprove the spherical aspect of the earth and they claimed that it is a myth, agreed with the above mentioned scholars, and said we must believe the Qur’an and reject the spherical aspect of the earth
jerrytatum 1 year ago
@jerrytatum I have 1 word for you, satellites. You're a moron, science wins
TheHomelessCripple 1 year ago
Blunders in the Koran...
The Koran teaches that the world is flat. This doctrine is believed by Islamic scholars even today. The Bible revealed that the earth is round in Isaiah 40:22. "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth".
jerrytatum 1 year ago
@jerrytatum no actully the bible sais the world is flat
5dx4mr 1 year ago
The 1st is 2 determine who God is. Jesus came w/miracles to prove His authenticity as to who He was. Mohammad had no such proof. Jesus did that inwhich no man could do. Mohammad did that inwhich ANY man can do. The Holy Spirit came upon Jesus n God spoke from heaven pertaining to Jesus for all to see. Mohammad went into a cave for none to see but he. ANY man can say they went into a cave and say, Thus says the Lord. Jesus killed no man. Mohammad killed many.
Jesus saves lives, Mohammad kills
MrBillH60 1 year ago
@MrBillH60 u just dont know anything
bilalz400 1 year ago
@MrBillH60 oh yeah huw about adam dummy he had niether no mother and no father so if anything you idiot he wouldve been god. but there is no god but allah, all the prophets had powers that which no other had. for exmple musa or moses raising the entire sea,that is truly amazing i cant believe i was once a christian fool like you.
MrPs3forall 9 months ago
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IslamIsTheTruth99 1 year ago
This is a bunch of fucking bull shit.
flabbyhabbybabby1 1 year ago
This video is very deceiving and it just brainwashing people into believing in a fake god who has no begotten son
b45100 1 year ago
Praise reason, not dogma.
ThorGoLucky 1 year ago
The longest and most boring intro in the world. No doubt to try to add something of importance to this most rubbish speech. Inshalah!!!!!!!!!
sallywilton 1 year ago
Fuck islam.
Fuck allah.
Fuck mohammed (PIGS be upon him).
luxfair 1 year ago
This video is boring. Just some guy talking, crap after crap.
Cinnarbar 1 year ago
LOL! Muslims are the most stupid of all religionists. This vid proves it.
C0C0nutFace 1 year ago
@C0C0nutFace What's a religionist?
MsVenaLuna 1 year ago
This vid is like a voice out of the Dark Ages.
luvdomus 1 year ago 19
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dedskin1 1 year ago
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dedskin1 1 year ago
Quran:
29:19 See they not how Allah originates creation, then repeats it: truly that is easy for Allah.
29:20 Say: "Travel through the earth and see how Allah did originate creation; so will Allah produce a later creation: for Allah has power over all things.
falcon02012 2 years ago
How old is the earth according to Islam?
enyawix 2 years ago
13.8 billion years
falcon02012 2 years ago
Thankyou.
Please keep this out there.
You are doing a great job of helping people to learn where to go in there efforts to understand things.
Based on your accent, I reckon you're either a Kiwi, or from Melbourne, or atleast one of the bigger cities in Australia's south-east.
Am I close?
naganokumas 2 years ago
science disproves creationism and creation theories of all religions, islam and christianity, end of discussion.
sesshy34 2 years ago
Science and religion go hand in hand.
Science can only, by definition, tell us the how of what's inside this universe. It cannot explain the why, and it cannot go further into issues outside of this universe, (i.e. Allah).
Stick to science no problem, but if you leave religion, you will find on the day of judgement how useful your words were.
IslamTalks 2 years ago
Except for the fact that in all probability none of us will experience any thing like a "day of judgement."
robisnum1 2 years ago
But how can we know for sure that Allah is there outside of the universe?
Subher0 2 years ago
I know from 2 things:
1) scripture revealed by Allah; whether you believe it or not
2) Reason; knowing some of the attributes of Allah. The idea that Allah is inside the universe contradicts those attributes.
IslamTalks 2 years ago
The first law of thermodynamics discredits the idea of a supernatural being, for a supernatural being to impose itself on our universe from its realm would indicate a creation of energy, which breaks thermodynamics. Religion has less proof going for it than thermodynamics. Ergo, my money is with the physicists on this one.
wetmackeral 2 years ago
I just want to point out a simple point. We all know by intuition that all things in our life have a maker. This computer, a pen, a house. Even a paper clip has a maker! No way can anyone accept a pen coming together on its own. Yet we can believe Human beings just came together on their own? how, is not the focus now, but can you accept that human beings just existing with no cause?
IslamTalks 2 years ago
then you must also assume that this supernatural being had a cause. No? Didn;t think so. It raises more questions than it answers. Most things are created as a result of naturalistic causes, even watches can be looked at as an adaptation by humanity to know when the day ends. a naturalistic explanation puts a full stop to all of it. Oh, and if you dig into stuff like biochemistry, its quite easy to see how 'human beings could have come together'. Y'all just gotta look.
wetmackeral 2 years ago
@IslamTalks
Oh please, you know as well as I do, pens, computers and houses do not reproduce.
They aren't subject to variation and natural selection. Living creatures are.
You're being deliberately dishonest.
evillutionskate 2 years ago 4
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@evillutionskate
You're jumping the gun. And skipping my point for something you assume is greater in importance which you fail to understand.
I say, a naturalistic explanation is something that "raises more questions than it answers".
A higher power creating being puts a full stop to all of it, and unlike any other religion we have preserved, authentic revelation to make any topic crystal clear for anyone who asks.
You can take your own advice, "Y'all just gotta look"
IslamTalks 2 years ago
No, you're wrong.
Take smallpox for example. The naturalistic explanation is simple, it evolved, no grand supernatural reason for it to exist, every species for itself.
But for you, it's a problem.
Did god create smallpox? It's based on DNA, like us? Same goes with all other forms of deadly Bacteria and Viruses, where did they come from?
We point out the similarities between Chimp and Human DNA, and you say "Same genes same designer"
So what about smallpox, same genes right?
evillutionskate 2 years ago
@IslamTalks Yea but youre defending an opinion not a factual theory. You believe a higher power exists because a man from the Middle East told you that. If he told you that elves and goblins exist you would also believe that. Science is not trying to destroy religion in fact; it is just the observation of nature. Science never said that there is no God but that theyre probably is no God. There is no evidence, no trace of him except writings that contradict themselves.
Korianne75 1 year ago
@evillutionskate
ok so who reproduced the first human beings den? they reproduced themselves? lol fink before u say summit...
birgun100 1 year ago
@birgun100
Who? What kind of idiotic question is that?
"Who" reproduced the first Nylon eating bacteria?
evillutionskate 1 year ago
@birgun100 Shut up you Brainless Moron...
TacticalAtheist 1 year ago
@IslamTalks pens and computers and paper clips etc. are NON-LIVING, they can't evolve like organic material can
electricbumblebee 2 years ago
If your argument is that complexity requires a creator, then you must also understand that the creator must be equally, or more complex, than its creation.
This leaves you with a little problem.
Because if the creator is equally or more complex than the thing that you're saying requires a creator, then that logically, has to mean that the creator also has a creator, equally or more complex than himself, who, in turn, would also require a creator.
So who created Allah?
Vehementi 1 year ago
that would be true if we were living in a pre darwinian era.
we now know that we werent created but have evolved over millions of years. so creationism is merely psudeo sciencee made up by primitive individuals in a time before we knew what we know now.
deathstar367 1 year ago
@wetmackeral the big bang breaks thermodynamics also.
Chase9803 1 year ago
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I challenge all the muslims to undergo hypnotism and they will discover what they were born as in their previous births. This will disprove Heaven, Hell, hellfire, judgement day and o fcourse Islam. search for Ramachandra Guruji` experiments in yotube and you will find out the real truth.
uddathunni 2 years ago
Is it a mercy by God that he made a magic apple, put Adam and Eve near it and told him not to eat it, made Satan tempt him and then when Adam did the natural pushed hm out of Heaven and kept fighting Satan ever since, and asked Mo to spread this nonsense and made him kill all non-believers. Isn`t he mad!
uddathunni 2 years ago
BISMILLAH-AR-RAHMAAN-AR-RAHEEM,
026.005: Never cometh there unto them a fresh reminder from the Beneficent One, but they turn away from it.
026.006
They have indeed rejected (the Message): so they will know soon (enough) the truth of what they mocked at!
walkindown 2 years ago
you are mad.
rahman530 2 years ago
im not even religious but i can listen to mulims talk all day.....is that kinda wierd?
keggerous 2 years ago
Me too! I have recently become religious and I could listen to muslims talk about Islam all day and night!
its0my0tube 2 years ago
Relax guys,your debate has turned into mud slinging.I'm an athiest,my mother is a catholic eucharistic minister.We get along fine.I don't care what anyone else "believes".What I don't like is other people telling me I'm a bad or lost person because I don't follow what someone said a thousand or more years ago.We are all free to think what we wish and do what we wish as long as it does not negatively affect others.Which is,unfortunatly what I am finding fundamentalist sects to be doing.
coolintruddle 2 years ago 2
Ofcourse! No one wants to hear about going to hellfire, having said that, will it change the facts of life?
We muslims say what we say with proofs, not out of our own desires. Why would we want to upset everyone? see.
You can live your life with the free choice Allah gave you. Look, it's not all fear and damnation, cause there's a way out, Islam, if you submit yourself to the creator and follow the teachings of the Messenger you can gain everything! What an amazing thing!
IslamTalks 2 years ago
what proofs??
manky22 2 years ago 5
Allah presents the argument for those who deny the existence of God Almighty,
"Are humans created from nothing? or are they their own creators? Are they the creators of the earth and the universe? No way! Rather they are only uncertain."
Chapter 52: verses 35-36
So if you reject Allah as your creator, you will find nothing else certain about how you came about.
IslamTalks 2 years ago
@IslamTalks I'm not actually certain on my creation.
DetectiveCoolnuggets 1 year ago
So stupid ...if you accepte religious dogma you are certain but you are stupide as hell it self...GCREATOR HAS NO IMAGE,HAS NO NAME,HAS NO BOOK,NEEDS NO WORSHIP,NO BILDINGS,NO LAWS but he does leave mark on his creations and we can see it ,we can hear it ...that is information....but that is outside the perception of most humans so they accept dogma. You are not free my friend...your life is dictated by the book
dedskin1 1 year ago
Look at you, trying to shame me for believing and being proud of yourself for being a non believer, your the one who is a loser and has no respect, religion aside I wish you said this to my face, why in the world you disrespect someone who hasn't said or done anything to you, oh yea your a non believer, who cares what I do there is no God after all, you are sick man, fuck you
KilluminatiMujahad 2 years ago
WEll I guess you cannot get around the LOGIC I prosed to you, obviously, because you'd just rather " BELIEVE" .This goes directly AGAINST the supposed logic that you faith uses to back it's claims as to the VALIDITY of yor chosen faith. So forget logic huh ? You JUST cannot address the fact that "IF" god indeed has created us to "test" us, that this would be RIDICULOUS, due to the FACT that a TRUE god would ALREADY KNOW the outcome of such a "test". You cannot address this properly, can you ???
gblueslover2 2 years ago
I have already told you dumb ass that God already knows the outcome, the test is a mercy for us, so that we know why we have the rank and position that we have, you are the one incapable of grasping this concept not me, Imagine we are all living in heaven except for some in hell those in hell would be like why are we here, so now we know why they are there cus they lived lives like you, you will not ask once to God why am I in hell cus you know how you lived your life,
KilluminatiMujahad 2 years ago
God does not need anything from us, we need him and everything he does is for us, we pray to him to thank him for his mercy.
KilluminatiMujahad 2 years ago
Indeed he doesnt, so therefore there isn't any need for tests, when he already KNOWS the outcome. You aren't thinking logically, at all.
gblueslover2 2 years ago
So he(allah) knows the outcome right? So (for example), lets say you are a bad person, and he knows that you will do bad in this earth. So before even creating the earth and putting you in it, he says to you that you are going to be bad, and there for he's going to put you in hell straight away. What are you going to say? You will say,"but allah, you havent even tested me, Give me a chance". That is why allah let the test happen, so that you may see that you truly belong in hell or paradise.
rahman530 2 years ago
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gblueslover2 2 years ago
abusing the modern technology .
that what this is about.
F mohamad.
massage from : IRAN
sagemanone 2 years ago
How old were Adam and Eve when they ate apple? How old were they when they were created? How many days they spent without eating apple, and what they ate in -between? What was in that apple to make tehm aware that they were naked? What else they knew till then and what else they came to know along with nakedness? Why God made that apple ? Why that apple tree wasn`t fenced by God ? Why don`t you eat some apple and understand that all the Mo had told was for his own lust and greed.?
uddathunni 2 years ago
because it was a test.
ilYasHD 2 years ago
Dude you are lost, Life is a test, and there would be no point to life had there not been such a test. In the end all will be revealed and you will be among the losers if you keep that attitude.
KilluminatiMujahad 2 years ago
A real " god" would not waste it's time on "tests". A real god would already KNOW the outcome of his test, PRIOR to there even being a test. Why don't you think logically, first, before you make such statements ?
People love to talk about how great god is, with all it's (his?) supposed unlimited powers, then they FORGET that god HAS these "unlimited" powers. Why "test" then, if god knows the outcome of it ? Does god like to waste his TIME ??? Apparently he does, which destroys your belief ....
gblueslover2 2 years ago
Its a shame you speak like this, he already knows the outcome and he does not need the creation, the test is for us and it is a mercy for us if only you knew. Unfortunately you feel better about yourself if you think the way you do so ahead its your problem but dont call me weak its you the weak one
KilluminatiMujahad 2 years ago
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gblueslover2 2 years ago
I am not ashamed of my comments I have to remove them you fool, and I bet your dumb ass doesn't even know what a quantum leap even is,but you are trying to make me seem dumb or uneducated because I believe in God and you must be smarter then me cus I you don't lmao, dude I understood relativity at the age of 10, physics is my favorite thing to study after religion and I could without Googling it explain a quantum leap in detail or layman's terms while you just use big words and insult believers
KilluminatiMujahad 2 years ago
Brother be at peace...... when some one has a lock on there heart, they can't see any thing even if there is some thing as huge as sun before them. They just find logic and science and they never find it.. Dont be angry and frustrated. be at peace brother because you are among those lucky ones who have truth in there heart. blessings on you brother
vagahat704 2 years ago 2
Alhumdullilah brother, thank you for your comment, Inshallah I lenr patience better, Salam Alekum
KilluminatiMujahad 2 years ago
Authentic? The Koran is known to be authentic because... it says it is. Does anyone detect a circular argument here?
Gorteenminogue 3 years ago
What is the Origin of the Universe?
Primeval Atom or God?
See my latest video.
freethinker2008 3 years ago
What do you know, a Muslim astronaut.
Aegialeus 3 years ago
The thing is...that every time a Prophet (as) is mentioned they say Allayhi Salaam (upon him be peace)..or InshaAllah is used A LOT...meaning God willing... they are very basic and used by many everywhere** Mohammad (pbuh, peace be upon him) they say sallalahu allayhi wa salaam...peace and blessings be upon him...I hope this helps a little**
mzjwright 3 years ago
I am trying to understand you friend...but it is hard because you keep talking in arabic to praise god or something. Please just speak in english friend, or maybe I should try learning arbic. In any case very hard to hear a coherent sentence
lodidodi69 3 years ago
atleast we all agree on the most logical things ....
Timmortal94 3 years ago
It is arabic.. give arabic title stupid guy!!
tnuocca7 3 years ago
It begins with a prayer in Arabic, but after the prayer the rest is in (accented) English.
Pirwzwhomper 3 years ago
Tsk, tsk, muhajidin. DO you use that same mouth to worship your grim god, Allah? Shame on you. Such language.
You should wash your mouth out with soap. And if you have no soap, you could always use sand.
Turandot29 3 years ago 13
im sorry...:(
muhajidin 3 years ago 2
im sorry...if you think Im gonna go quiet
when you people make false accusation about Islam,God or the holy Quran...youre wrong!..If I do a sin it is between me and God...what the f**k you care..?..
muhajidin 3 years ago
Is it true that Mohamad the paedophile prophet married Aisha when she was 6 and fucked her when she was 9?
I'm only asking.
leffehoegaarden 4 years ago
leffe- answer to your question is "NO"!! But you should look up and see how much child molesters your country and the west has.Including s.d.d's,teen pregnancies,homo's, etc....you come to find out that your land has the most of these I mentioned above.....
afghan619 4 years ago
"im only asking" lol sure your just asking...god forgive you for you do not know what you are speaking about..i suggest you educate yourself before asking about things you know absolutely nothing about.
1fq 4 years ago
But, of course, the real answer to you question is "Yes". More important than that, many present day Muslims use this as an example, and marry preteen grils or marry off there preteen daughters. The Iatola Komani stated "It is joyous if your daughter has her 1st period in her husbands house" !!!
stevekap8 3 years ago
The Quran states that the earth was flat and spread out like a carpet, that there were pillars holding up the sky to suspend the stars as lamps, that the sun revolved around the earth and not the other way around (never stating that the earth itself was in motion), and nowhere in the Quran is there any statement about evolution! The Quran even states that male sperm comes from the an area between the rib cage and spinal cord!
Modern science is the death of Islam.
EricMetalGuitarist 4 years ago
Modern science is the death of *ALL* religions ... but I still see walking corpses everywhere. :: sigh ::
Turandot29 4 years ago 2
not christianity watch "kent hovind seminars" give it a chance it might change your life!
salvador36213 4 years ago
Uh, I've seen Kent Hovind's cornpone presentations. True, he does appeal to a certain undereducated segment of the population. If you dare, please seek ExtantDodo and Thunderf00t's refutation of Hovind's videos. It might save your life !
Turandot29 4 years ago 4
Hovind is a clown, he denies modern science to an extreme. I could refute this guy with one point, does light travel in a constant speed, yes, so how can we see stars billions of light years away if the universe is only 20000 years old as Hovind claims, simple, he is wrong.
KilluminatiMujahad 2 years ago
i find it quite entertaining that ppl who nothing about the quran or islam feel they can make such ridiculous comments and form theories, id love to see how quickly youd be laughed out of a hospital if you went into a hospital full of doctors and tried to talk about medicine after having read one anatomy text book.
1fq 4 years ago
I find it quite entertaining that people think they can learn about the origin of the cosmos by studieing books written by people for whom the wheelbarrel would be cosidered emergent technology.
stevekap8 4 years ago
lol yes heres another person who has no idea what they are talking about...you guys are really entertaining really you are...to both commments above your comments only prove my point, you know nothing about islam or the holy quran. may allah forgive your sins and guide you.
1fq 4 years ago 4
Well, I don't know much about Astrology either. But I do know about history, science, astronomy. Enough to know that every primative society had a creation myth. And that each one was wrong.
stevekap8 3 years ago
stevekap8, I recognize your phrase about the wheelbarrel being emergent technology for ancient ppls as being a comment made by Sam Harris.
Nice job.
Turandot29 3 years ago
in the 8th century, Ja'far al-Sadiq refuted the geocentric model of the universe common at the time, in which the Earth is not moving and the Sun, and the planets are orbiting around it.
idiot, real muslims were exceptional astronomers
remember Algebra and Algorithems?
Terranous 4 years ago
And the Quran never compares the earth to a carpet, look up some lexicon of Arabic before you think you are able to perceive a translation.
Terranous 4 years ago
What pre-modern Muslim scientists discovered and achieved has nothing to do with the Quran. Secondly, the Quran has many bizarre things to say, such as ants having the ability to talk, that man was created from clay, that the stars will fall down onto the earth when the sky becomes weak on judgement day, and has two different contradictory things to say about the length of Allah's day and which was created first: the heavens or the earth.
EricMetalGuitarist 4 years ago
find it quite entertaining that ppl who nothing about the quran or islam feel they can make such ridiculous comments and form theories, id love to see how quickly youd be laughed out of a hospital if you went into a hospital full of doctors and tried to talk about medicine after having read one anatomy text book.
1fq 4 years ago 2
dont comment on which you know absolutely nothing about, i suggest you go educate yourself...you obviously know nothing about islam or the holy quran and i can bet you dont know much about modern science either or you would not feel compelled to talk on a topic you know nothing about..
1fq 4 years ago
hello 11 months a ago you made a statement, regarding what the quran say, i would say read the quran because thats not what its says, it quite the oppisite, i was a christian , im a convert to islam, the bible says those things, science proves the quran is valid, please do your reserach. i hope i have helped you in some way. may god bless you and your entire fameily.....
assala mu aly kum ( may peace and blessings be upon you) and may god give you wisdom and the power to reconise the truth
tiger3242 3 years ago
ok m8
do u wana say that in english?
janirani 4 years ago
why are you all so sure!!!!! why be controlled by religion??????? thats goes for any religion by the way! i just dont get it why???????? self peservation,knowldge, and kindness to others is the only religion we should ever need!forget the rest!
AOBSHADOWGLASS 4 years ago
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People will realize that Islam has two faces: 'moderate' and 'extreme'. These 'two faces' have been designed to throw the host countries (which they have invaded) off the scent of the true agenda of Islam, which is to make EVERY human on EARTH abide by Sharia law, and everyone who does not will be allowed to live in these new Muslim lands, but will have to pay a special 'kuffar' tax, and be classed as second rate citizens, or in some cases slaves.
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE BACON!
only1duk 4 years ago
Salam,
keep your eye out - this will be uploaded as a video in the near future.
SplitmoonProductions 4 years ago
sheikh shady because of you i have changed my life, may allah bless you and keep you as our learned teacher
all brothers learn from him and his lectures
salam
janirani 4 years ago 2