RON PAUL, WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR AN ANSWER! TELL AMERICAN PEOPLE HOW EXACTLY RU GOING TO CREATE JOBS? OK LETS SAY ALL TROOPS CAME BACK AND THEN WHAT? THEY ARE GOING TO SELL IPHONES AND BLACKBERRIES? DUDE BE A MEN, HOW RU GOING TO CREATE JOBS? POPULATION OF CHINA IS 1.4 B CHINESE WORK LIKE ROBOTS, BE HONEST TELL AMERICAN PEOPLE TO BUY UR BOOK U NEED CASH , U LOVE POWER, U LOVE CASH, U WILL NEVER CREATE JOBS, U HAVE NO ANSWER!
what we really need to share around the internet, is that each of us must give consent to be represented under common law.
voting in elections, is not giving required consent to be represented, an assumption from the 'elected person' is made since you failed to notify them within a 30 day period, and by default and by your negligence, they are assuming role as your representative.
you can notify that they do not represent you and you can name the person who you choose to represent you.
DeFraudzio somehow thinks that raising taxes will generate jobs. He wants all of us working on the side of the 5 freeway picking up trash. The only trash we need to pick up and throw away is DeFraudzio! Vote for Art Robinson!
@CalifornArcitect The Congressional Office of Budget has attributed the Bush tax cuts for the rich to causing trillions of dollars of debt that we are contending with right now. DeFazio supports not extending these tax cuts for the rich. You repeat the same Fox News Republican party slogan that raising taxes on the super rich is always to be spoken of as "raising our taxes". As if to say we are all super rich. Defazio is for extending the tax breaks for the middle class. You're a moron.
I did not take him out of context, that's just one more line you use in a string of excuses for this moron who doesn't even believe in global warming. According the figures the US Pentagon is spending millions to prepare for the hundreds of millions of people who are expected to flea flooded and drought stricken lands around the world, in the decades to come flowing over boarders causing strife and wars around the planet. Robinson is a ap dog of the filthy rich. You are his loyal idiot.
o and the best part: people elect some idiot like Defazio who promises to "invest in their childrens future" so they throw a ton of more money at the same federal public schools that haven't done shit for our country for the past 60 years. Just like they did in the good ol NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND act (you people are idiots).
They should require you to take a history test before you can vote but you ignorant idiots are too hostile to this idea, and this is why no good candidate will ever win.
the best part is the American people aren't smart enough to open up a history book and realize what happened to our schools. instead they listen to the candidates say "INCREASE FUNDING FOR EDUCTATION = INVESTING IN OUR CHILDRENS FUTURE" and every time someone like Art Robinson tries to make a solid point that THE FEDERAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE OUR PROBLEM, people try to make him out or actually think he is as a nutbag who is against ALL PUBLIC schools. when he is the only one with a real solution
I meet Art and his son Matthew yesterday. Totally cool guys. Art is a srt8 up local boy. His son is very respectful like his dad. I got a dozen plus ppl to vote for him
Art Robinson is one of the only decent candidates in the entire United States government, the only thing that keeps good people like him from getting elected is propaganda artists like DIRTCLANS who are paid by Defazio to get on youtube and spread bullshit and fake links anywhere they can about an honest man...
I'm not going to tell anyone who to vote for, but atleast look at Art Robinson, he is one of the only candidates who tells the truth rather than what people wan't to hear. usa needs him
i like robinson. people are calling him a nut, but they were saying the same about ron paul before all his predictions came true. i think he handles himself well in interviews, he just doesn't say what they want to hear.
when someone who is a third of your age tries to have a rational argument, and you resort to repeating the same things over and over FOR OVER 100 COMMENTS(FOX NEWS, RACISM, CHRISTIANS) that don't add anything to the debate at all.
This is what people call: Pathetic.
And its what i call: A waste of what is left of your pathetic life.
Just give up, you have already lost, you have proven incapable of rational debate and every time you respond you just look worst and worst.
DIRTCLANS, in over 100 comments (this is an actual count, anyone who wants to check, look back through ALL COMMENTS)
0 rational arguments containing evidence to back them up
0 answers to any questions i asked DIRTCLANS
10 random slurs about Christians in general
10+ times of trying to label me a racist (he is still trying to do this, all he does is take 1 quote out of its context... so sad, hes over 60 and this is what hes wasting his time doing)
@JMS13579 Christians by identity like you, are not Christians by being Christ like. You are a white Christian identity person. You are not intelligent enough to form your own identity, instead you cling to cult mentality where feel safe by believing you are part of larger group. The rest of us who are not cowards think for ourselves. And if I was working for Defazio I would be on a video log visted by significant numbers of people now wouldn't Ace? You're a real genius aren't you?
@dirtclans how does someone who didn't go to college call someone who has finished college unintelligent?
Oh thats easy, they are stubborn idiots and love being willingly stupid.
seriously man, you are fucking senile. When did you ever hear me say one time, that i am a christian or support anything christians do. You didn't. you just started ranting about christians becuase you have nothing intelligent to say whatsoever.
THIS IS NO SURPRISE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GO TO FUCKING COLLEGE LOSER.
@dirtclans you are on MULTIPLE videos dumbfuck, of course you are working for Defazio, the fact that you just tried to deny it makes it even more obvious
@JMS13579 Work for Defazio? You think I work for him? You call arguing with an idiot like you "work"? It is not work, it is a piece of cake. This whole discussion began with me posting a comment about Art Robinson promoting home schooling books for children by an author who refers to black people as lazy. You defended this by arguing - BY ARGUING - that black people are indeed lazy. Now you just lie about this and deny you ever made such bigoted statements. This isn't work my friend, it is easy!
Anyone with a brain can see dirtclans is a liar. look at the following quotes.
he just distorts my views because he can't out debate me.
all he has is propaganda about art robinson, i actually think he is being paid by Defazio, he has no proof at all about the shit he claims about art robinson, and everytime you throw facts in his face he respons with the same stubborn bullshit and brings up FOX NEWS randomly and then
"JMS SAID BLACK PEOPLE ARE LAZY" (hes distorting what i said entirely)
@JMS13579 You keep calling the facts propaganda as if you are the only person not able to Google search terms with the names Robert Mercer and Art Robinson and read for themselves that Robinson has received 98% of funding from 2 men, one giving him more than $350,000 dollars. That man being Mercer who is a hedge fund manager worth multiple billions of dollars. Just like Bush, idiots like you vote for clowns who are shills for Wall St fat cats. You should have learned from Bush. But you learn???
@dirtclans there is no credible article saying any of that. thats why every time you bring that up you make sure to tell everyone to: "type this in quotes in google" because you have to lead them to the article that you or one of your idiotic propaganda buddies wrote, its completely obvious, your website looks like fucking shit hahaha
apparently Defazio doesn't have enough money to fund a decent propaganda campaign, cus you suck dick at spreading propaganda.
@JMS13579 Yea I guess I was right, you are not able to Google search terms and find common information. The first article on this subject was in the Register Guard 2 days ago. If you were the kind of person who read the news paper once in while you might now these things. Instead all you do is watch Fox News and listen to Rush Limbaugh.
@dirtclans why don't you post a link of the story from a credible source?
because you can't
and you like being stubborn and not responding to anything i say, but instead i can look forward to a random rant about FOX NEWS, CHRISTIANS AND BLACK PEOPLE. lol. the left is sure getting pathetic these days.
@dirtclans are you retarded or just incredibly stubborn, i really can't tell. what does concerned tax payers for america have anything to do with Art Robinson you fucking idiot. Guess what, this is America, you can spend your money however the fuck you wan't, if 2 people want to throw their money into putting out an anti Defazio campaign they have the right to do that, the same way you have the right to be getting paid by Defazio, which you obviously are.
@JMS13579 Are we debating whether this America? Or whether it is a nation where people are free to spend their money any way they want? No we are not. Yet you pretend that is what I have argued. No that is what you are now arguing as a strawman. I contend only one thing, that Art Robinson gets 98% of his financing from Robert Mercer, a hedge manager worth multiple billions of dollars.
Now I know you hate this fact being brought to light. Lying about what the argument is, is just a distraction.
@JMS13579 It would appear that you will go anywhere with this discussion but to the key point here. That point being that Art Robinson is a man with little interest in society. He home schools his kids rather being a participant in his local schools. He follows right wing Christian ideals that are all about finger pointing and little about working for change. A Wall St billionaire finances Art Robinson so he can, in his old age, go to DC and follow a strict party line vote to work for Wall St.
@dirtclans If you homeschool your kids that doesn't imply you don't care about society, that is completely irrelevant, he probably thinks our public schools suck (they do) and wants his kids to get a good education. 'right wing Christian ideals' is not a synonym for 'evil' sorry. Republicans do support the financial elite in America, i just happen to think thats a better route to take than to sell out to the bottom feeders. At least the financial elite create private sector jobs.
@dirtclans the entire point of this video was to refute what idiotic propaganda spreaders like you have been saying, he literally has a direct response to the bullshit you are claiming at the very start of this video.
First, you have no credible source for anything you say, and you prove it by not being able to cite one.
second, even if concerned taxpayers is paid for by 2 people, so what?
third, you have no proof they gave any money to Art Robinson.
@JMS13579 If? If Concerned Citizens is financed by a billionaire? Not if, it is. And for you to contend that your refusal to accept this fact is the same as me not proving this fact, is just plain delusional thinking on your part. You know it is true, but you are committed to drinking the kool-aid and you can't let yourself admit that you're a sycophantic tool of the ruling class who are undermining your standard of living with you as their aid in accomplishing it. Pathetic is what you are.
@JMS1379 You ignore all the facts about the Republican party being all for letting the ruling billionaire class buy up all our politicians just as Robert Mercer, CEO of his own hedge fund worth billions of dollars, pays for 98% of all of the Art Robinson for Senate campaign costs. Polls show Robinson giving Defazio a run for his money? No, not really, Wall St is though. The class of billionaires who own run nation are giving Defazio a run for his money. Not Robinson - Robert Mercer is the one.
@dirtclans Not to mention candidates like Art Robinson and Ron Paul are anything but your typical republican and they do not owe the party much allegiance at all. They do take on the financial elite by proposing to reform or abolish the federal reserve, this could make a larger difference than every policy a democrat has ever dreamed of for wrestling power away from the rich. The fact that you try to associate Art Robinson with fox news shows you really don't understand his viewpoints at all.
@JMS13579 You don't get far going after the Fed while being bankrolled by Wall St billionaires. Art Robinson is a self important person out for fame. He could give a shit about our society. Any man who would advocate getting rid of public education is an out of touch delusional megalomaniac. Which says what about you? You who pretends that Robinson saying he wants to abolish the fed somehow erases the cold hard fact that he is owned by a Wall St billionaire? Talk is cheap.
@dirtclans he never said ABOLISH public education, he said get rid of FEDERAL education and go back to LOCALLY funded PUBLIC schools. They worked in the US for over 100 years when we had the best schools in the world, then the federal government took over education and you people wonder WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SCHOOLS? seriously..
If YOU DONT THINK that we need to stop federally funded public schools then YOU are a delusional megalomaniac, and you haven't even taken a look at the constitution.
@JMS3579 ""The whole public school system is child abuse though. There's just no other way to describe it.""
Source: Art Robinson Homeschooling Curriculum Promotional Video, Accessed October 5, 2010.
Robinson is an avid promoter of home schooling. All you do is simply deny the facts. You have done this consistently throughout our entire discussion. When you say "he never said that." And he did, YOU ARE A LIAR. You put a quote he actually did say and want me to believe that is all he said. Lie.
@dirtclans lol you lost the debate bad and AGAIN you go back to YOU LIE lol...
you don't know jack shit about
politics
history
or Art Robinson
Get that through your head, you take his quotes out of context and think you are convincing someone besides your idiotic self. when i say "he never said that"
i am referring to actually knowing his stance on public schools, and realizing you are just taking his quotes out of context for some stupid reason
@JMS13579 Here is the youtube video of Art Robinson giving a speech where he takes pride in sharing his opinion that "public schools should be abolished."
I am sure that when you watch this video you will post a response here retracting your claim that Robinson never said he thought "public schools should be abolished." Because what you wrote is a flat out lie. Who tells people such lies? Art Robinson? Or did you make that lie up on your own?
@dirtclans lol are you an idiot? he was making a joke to a bunch of republican congressman and realized that the better solution would actually be to abolish them than to vote for the bill they were discussing.
you took him out of context AGAIn
you have nothing to say AGAIN
you are just a stubborn idiot, all you did was denied everything and said "you lie" AGAIN.
Get a fucking life you uneducated old man, you are so damn annoying and stubborn it's amazing.
Anyone with a brain can see who the real liar is. DIRTCLANS is the most pathetic human being i have ever witnessed in my life. he is a racist bigot and he tries to accuse everyone else of being one as his only argument because he simply has no other arguments to use; he knows he's wrong.
Don't listen to ratty bitches like DIRTCLANS, they are being paid for by Peter Defazio, its the only reasonable explanation for why he would distort my views and lie so stubbornly over and over and over
@JMS3579 Yea, don't listen to me, instead just go through this log where you can read for yourself how you repeatedly made racist bigoted statements saying black people were lazy. You did this while defending Art Robinson for selling the same belief. It was you admitting that Art Robinson does indeed promote home school books that he sells by an author who contends that black people are lazy and unable to take care of themselves. Home schooling is for control freaks. Robinson is a theofascist.
If you don't vote for Art Robinson you are letting idiots like DIRTCLANS win, who purposefully lie and distort peoples(mine and Art Robinson's) views because they know they are wrong and can't win a rational debate.
His articles that he tells you to read are nothing but propaganda, and they are probably funded by the same people who are paying DIRTCLANS to waste his time coming on youtube spreading lies and propaganda. There is so much proof that he is a lying rat that i don't even need to say
@JMS13579 How do you win a rational debate? You argue that black people are lazy just so you can defend Art Robinson for promoting books by an author who believed the same. The rationality for your beliefs are basically dittoing Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. With this as your way of being rational you are helpless to refute the facts. The main fact - Art Robinson is being financed by a Wall St hedge fund manager worth billions of dollars. Truth is hard to fight when you're just a Fox News flunky.
@dirtclans you and i both know you are a pathetic uneducated idiot stubbornly repeating the same shit over and over that i have refuted multiple times.
the fact that you are still trying to define my own opinions on black people for me is evidence to everyone with a functioning brain that you are an idiot. you are clearly someone prejudice towards Christians however, what a fucking bigot you are haha, damn you are a pathetic form of life.
how much is Defazio paying you you slimy rat fuck?
@dirtclans I went to college, finished, 2 degrees, you didn't.
Regarding black people, You take my quotes out of context, any idiot can do that. if i had an oppinion dont you think id stand by it dumbas
Your stuborness doesn't make you look smart, it has the exact opposite effect?
Are you done yet? or are you going to keep randomly ranting and then acting like you "slam dunked me in an argument" when we both know you have gotten your ass owned on every single issue you've dared to bring up.
@JMS13579 Hilarious that you would say, "If I had an opinion don't you think I would stand by it?" Considering that last night on this log you wrote in regards to me condemning you for your bigoted statements about black people that you take back what you said. Again, you behave as though you are completely delusional about your self image. This is why i say you are so full of self hate. You deny who you are constantly. Pathetic.
@dirtclans Yes, that makes perfect sense, i am denying who i am, because i am 'delusional and full of self hate'. Or maybe you are just trying to distort my views because its the only pathetic argument you have left.
hmwhich one makes more sense?
still clinging to the black argument? in other words you admit i have proven you wrong on every SINGLE point that you have dared to bring up
so sad you cant have a rational debate in this country anymore without some idiot randomly playing race card
@dirtclans for the millionth time YOU: "PEOPLES SOCIOECONOMIC DISADVANTAGES IN THE WORLD ARE CAUSED BY CULTURAL DIFFERENCES" ME "that is a fancy phrase for lazy" it is. get over it. that comment isn't racist at all, and i never said anything like "all black people are lazy" thats just you taking me out of context because literally ITS THE ONLY PATHETIC ARGUMENT YOU HAVE LEFT. stfu and get a life, i honestly am amazed you are still keeping up this stupid stubborn shit
dirtclans can't debate with me so he tries distorting my views. If i "standed by my belief that black people are lazy" i wouldn't have already explained multiple times that he is distorting my views.
He is on his last desperate attempt at making an argument because he realized i am vastly more educated than he is and he really has no clue what hes talking about.
DIRTCLANS is being paid by someone in the Dafazio camp, i almost guarantee it. his articles are from far left wing sites lol
Real Americans vote for Art Robinson. Don't let these moochers on welfare convince you through propaganda on youtube. Art Robinson has real solutions to fix this country, the other side has nothing, their answer to everything is GIVE ME MORE MONEY FROM SOMEONE ELSE IN OUR COUNTRY VIA THE GOVT, FOR NOTHING IN RETURN AT ALL, JUST FREE MONEY VIA OTHER CITIZENS WHO EARNED IT. It doesn't work, it hasn't worked AND ITS NOT GOING TO WORK ANYMORE
@JMS379 Art Robinson is beginning his political career with a campaign that is 98% funded by "Concerned Taxpayers of America" made up of two tax payers, Daniel G. Schuster, and Robert Mercer.
Google the following, in the quotes and read all about them:
"Daniel G. Schuster Inc., an Owings Mills, Maryland concrete company and Robert Mercer, a hedge fund executive, are the only two financial supporters of Concerned Taxpayers of America."
@JMS13579 Is a racist who claims black people are lazy even when challenged to defend such a claim he stands by his belief that black people are lazy. In this log he even went so far as to sight the decolonized African continent's economic condition as evidence of his belief. He espouses verbatim the identical ignorant sycophantic fear based bigoted politics we see on Fox News - the Republican Party News channel. I have hurt his self hating self esteem. He is a cry baby.
Thats what the idiot pundit on MSNBC is doing to art, thats what DIRTCLANS is doing to me. so sad that all left wing die hard liberals have is to distort the other sides views, try to put words in their mouth, and then make an argument from there.
they are entirely conceding that they couldn't debate me or Art, so they had to make up arguments that neither of us are supporting.
Anyone who cares, read through our comments, you will realize how big of an idiot this guy is. He tries to pretend he is debating, but really he just rants about fox news, every time you bring up a point he has no argument for he says "YOU GOT THAT FROM FOX NEWS" as if that is relevant whatsoever... people like him hardly deserve to breathe, they are willingly stupid and love spreading misinformation around because they know the truth makes them look like the senile low life losers they are
"what is this about (Defazio) saying you got $40,000 from Wall St?"
Then Robinson says that's not true. Yes that is not true. Robinson's campaign has received more than $500,000 from just one source associated with Wall St. Google search words - Mercer hedge fund gives to Robinson -
Mercer is CEO of a hedge fund who is worth multiple billions. He has single handed created the Art Robinson campaign viable. Mercer knows Robinson can't win in Lane County but he just wants to pressure Dems.
i think that this guy is honest. i know that anyone that is standing by the truth and the right thing to do is always rumored by wrong stuff and fought by the ones that do wrong. just because they know the solution but don't wanna do it because it's illgotten narrow benefits
its just so funny every time a die hard liberal tries to get into a debate, they realize the fact that they know nothing about reality is about to make them look stupid, the best thing they can think to do is play the race card, over and over and over and over and over. Its the only defense mechanism they have: exhibit A is DIRTCLANS.
Anyone who reads our comments knows how big of a stubborn idiot this old man is.
Im not a racist, one of my best friends is black.
Im not a chirstian
Im not even a conservative
If these are the only arguments you have left, i have already won this debate a long time ago, you have just wasted my time for the last 50 comments or so by repeating your same dumb shit about KKK and fox news.
really man, if i was your grand kid i would be fucking embarrassed. you are supposed to become wise with age, not stubborn and pathetic.
@JMS13579 The first true and accurate things you've asserted:
"m not a chirstian Im not even a conservative"
So true, what you are is just a simple self hating bigot with very little education who goes around lying about his understanding of his own self image.
Anyone who wants a good laugh, read through DIRTCLANS and mines 'debate' and you can witness an old man literally losing his mind.
ill just tell everyone what dirtclans is going to say next:
FOX NEWS, YOU WORK FOR FOX NEWS BLAH BLAH BLAH RUSH LIMBAUGH
BLACK PEOPLE BLACK PEOPLE, WHAT DOES THIS DEBATE HAVE TO DO WITH BLACK PEOPLE, NOTHING AT ALL, ITS JUST THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK TO STUBBORNLY HOLD ON TO BECAUSE I AM LOOKING LIKE AN IDIOT DEBATING WITH YOU.
@JMS13579 In your delusional mind you actually believe people would read through your cry baby complaints and temper tantrums? It doesn't take much of an investment of reading to see you are a person with no beliefs of your own. You simply quote right wing media whores word for word. You lie about having college degrees while demonstrating you barely have a vocabulary over a 10th grader. You are a pathetic fool who is a legend in his own mind.
@dirtclans You are just jealous of the fact i have college DEGREES and you don't have shit. you try to attempt to use the hardest words you know to appear smart, and you fail miserably.
you haven't answered a single fucking one of my questions, and just like i predicted this was your response:
BLAH BLAH FOX NEWS YOU ARE BRAINWASHED RIGHT WING FOX NEWS I CANT DEBATE THE POINTS YOU BRING UP SO I JUST NEED TO MAKE FUN OF FOX NEWS OVER AND OVER AND TRY TO CONNECT YOU TO IT
@dirtclans Something happens when you go to college: you become informed and don't have to cling to the same idiotic/stubborn argument over and over: FOX NEWS FOX NEWS. Ok, everyone heard you
now are you going to answer a single fucking question I asked you or are you going to change the subject again because you know you are a fucking retard?
yea thats what i thought, you are gunna change the subject again. ill be waiting for your FOX NEWS BLAH BLAH comment, you fucking loser.
@JMS13579 You keep clinging to your delusional justifications for why you're a hate spewing bigot. You've repeatedly claimed that it's you who pays for black people on welfare. This is poor white trailer trash, culture of the Klan, bullshit 101. How many times have we all heard this crap from white Christian Identity racist scum? You don't pay for shit, you use all the infrastructure of this nation and then complain when black people use it too. Trailer trash is what you are. Poor white trash.
@JMS13579 You never said anything about black people? Again you're a simple liar. And when you spam the whole page while claiming not to be bothered, you are contradicting yourself, er ahh... you are lying. And then the lies continue. You asked about Al Qeada, I replied. You asked about taxes, I explained them to you.
You were done the moment you attempted to argue with someone who has an open mind and thinks for himself rather than sucking up cowardly fear based Fox News politics. Pathetic.
@dirtclans lol im a liar? you still stuck on the black thing? its clear you have nothing meaningful to say so you still stuck on the black thing. you haven't answered a single fucking question loser. you just stubbornly say you have over and over then bring up fox news. show me a quote where you have answered ANY question, o wait, you can't, dumbfuck. your answer to defeating alqaeda was a quote about how much we spend on energy: you have no answers you delusional old senile idiot.
@dirtclans ATTENTION EVERYONE. DIRTCLANS IS IN SUCH A BAD STATE OF DENIAL, HE IS ACTING LIKE A CHILD. HE IS CLINGING TO ONE COMMENT I MADE, WHERE I SAID IN RESPONSE TO HIM SAYING "CULTURAL DIFFERENCES ACOUNT FOR ALL SOCIOECONOMIC DIFFERENCES IN THE WORLD" I SAID "THATS A FANCY PHRASE FOR LAZY"
HE WILL NOT LET THIS GO, I HAVE POINTED THIS OUT MULTIPLE TIMES, HE IS IN A SAD STATE OF DENIAL, THIS IS THE ONLY ARGUMENT HE HAS LEFT, HE HAS BEEN DESTROYED ON EVERY DEBATE.
@linwooddeaton, Your perspective is that people get paid to give a shit about the political process of our nation? Well let me inform you, there are more people in this nation who actually care than you might think. Now if you are able to refute what I contend I would love to see you do that. Refute the fact 98% of Art Robinson's campaing money does not come from billioniares like Robert Mercer. It is one thing to make stupid allegations, it's another thing to back them up. Which you can't do.
@dirtclans you don't listen to anyone but yourself talk. shut the fuck up you old stubborn dumbfuck. there is obviously nothing i can say to make you admit how much of a fucking low life you are, because every time i try you do the same thing and try to tell me im a KKK member because i believe in cutting worthless moochers like YOU off welfare (that has nothing to do with black people at all, dumbfuck)
the fact that all you can do is play the race card is concrete evidence you are ignorant
@dirtclans Back in Rome they would laugh at you. All you can do is stage personal attacks, you haven't debated one fucking issue i have brought up. Every time i ask you why its a good idea for us to keep moochers on welfare, you change the subject and try to make it a race issue, or you make some idiotic comment about fox news.
stop trying to label me, and grow a fucking brain and learn to debate the points that i have made you look absolutely stupid with. dumbass old man, im a third of ur age
@dirtclans O look i called it AGAIN, for the fucking 10th time, i asked dirtclans about 10 questions, he doesn't answer or even talk about a single one of them and then starts ranting about the KKK and fox news.
in other words, anyone who disagrees with dirtclans, is a member of the KKK, in his senile mind that is. either that or you work for fox.
in reality its obvious that dirtclans is just a mooching loser whose pride is so hurt he has to stubbornly argue with me on youtube; he cant win.
Me: How do you plan to balance our budget and get out of debt if you keep increasing government spending by giving away money to people who don't do anything to earn it?
DIRTCLANS: YOU ARE A RACIST, LET ME BRING UP A QUOTE YOU SAID 50 COMMENTS AGO, YOU WORK FOR FOX NEWS. IDIOT. IDIOT. BRAINWASHED IDIOT. IDIOT. IDIOT.IDIOT
me: so you can't answer my question?
DIRTCLAN: EVERYONE JMS SAID THAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE LAZY, EVEN THOUGH ITS OUT OF CONTEXT
Jms also wrote, about 5 times: "Alright, since you aren't going to let this go. even though i clearly didn't state that all black people are lazy, if thats how you interpreted it, i take it back entirely, because thats not what i believe. so please stop putting words in my mouth."
I was responding to something he said, he took the quote out of context
I know, pathetic as fuck.
Dirtclans hasn't sad one thing besides "FOX NEWS BLAH BLAH" "BLACK PEOPLE BLAH BLAH" in a 4 hour argument
@JMS1379 wrote: "How do you explain the fact that African nations didn't do any of the colonizing? Or lack of African inventors? "cultural norms" that's a word used as an excuse for lazy people, that losers like you use because you have no real arguments. Black people are lazy, go ask one of them instead of trying stick up for people for the sake of seeming 'enlightened'."
He also wrote: "can you point comment where i said "all black people are lazy"
@dirtclans You couldn't answer a SINGLE one of my questions.
instead you
1. Brought up the same quote about black people being lazy that i have already: taken back, and explained how you took that quote way out of context over 5 times.
2. sent me a link to some article written by another idiot similiar to you that can't get over Americans EARN their money, they don't owe the government or the poor jack shit
3 you brought up fox news, that has to literally have been your 50th time doing so
@JMS9 How do we fight Al Qeada? The USA is 5% of the worlds population, we use 25% of the worlds energy reserves. Thus the need for the biggest military on earth. Millions of Muslims have died because the USA and it's western allies have manipulated the power structure in the middle east ever since oil mattered to us all. In just one war between Saddam Hussein's Iraq (American made puppet) and Iran, 1 million died. We aided that war w/ satellite images and weapons sales. You have no clue do you?
@dirtclans I could tell you about 100 books that you need to "read", any fucking idiot can get on youtube, pretend they are right about everything and then say "GO READ THIS ARTICLE IF YOU DONT AGREE YOU ARE WRONG"
my guess is everyone you know hates you, because only a really pissed of loser would argue the way you have been doing for the past 4 hours: no points, childish stubborn bullshit over and over and over and over and over FOX NEWS NEWS FOX NEWS, o you failed to answer a single question
@dirtclans THE QUOTE THAT DIRTCLAN WONT STOP BRINGING UP THAT HAPPENED 50 COMMENTS AGO:
I was responding to an idiotic point he made saying "cultural norms" account for peoples 'socioeconomic differences'. and my response was, that is a fancy phrase for lazy, and it is. notice i said "black people are lazy" not "all black people are lazy" and in an earlier comment i made it entirely clear saying GENERALLY.
you are willingly stupid. just shut the fuck up, you lost, you sound like an idiot.
@JMS You not only said black people were lazy, you went on to argue with examples, sighting the condition of African nations today. You called me a progressive (as if it was a derogatory term) saying I was only trying to be a hero to black people by sticking up for them. I argued that I was merely pointing out that you're a pea brain bigot who doesn't understand the significance of cultural practices and how they evolve. You only reneged on your claims after I called your bluff and quoted you.
heres the history of the 60s you learned : WHITE PEOPLE ARE MEANIES WHO ARE RACISTS AND DISCRIMINATED BLACKS THROUGH COWARDLY CHRISTIAN TERROR. A BUNCH OF BLACK PEOPLE LIKE MLK, TRIED TO BEG THEM TO STOP, BUT THE EVIL CHRISTIANS JUST KILLED INNOCENT BLACKS EVERYWHERE THEY COULD. THEN THANKS TO GOD, AKA JOHN KENNEDY, IT ALL STOPPED what really happened is Kennedy ignored civil rights until it was a popular stance to take, THEN THANKS AGAIN TO LYNDON JOHNSON who wiped his ass with our constitution
"Commentary: Wall Street has already voted By Holly Sklar Distributed by McClatchy-Tribune News Service"
First hit on Google. If you can't read this all the way through it is because you can't allow yourself to be educated about the real world. This article says all you need to know to learn who Art Robinson is owned by. Hard to accept I am sure, but see if you are able to read it all.
@JMS359 Writes: "the rich don't owe you shit low life."
Code for: "I'm a disciple of Professor Glen Beck of Fox News University. All I know can be found in the propaganda they espouse. "
Yea you're right, your argument, that is an exact quote of Limbaugh and Beck, about America being a capitalist nation, actually does mean that America has never had a tax system based on income. And all the schools, roads, hospitals, and such that are paid for by taxes, they actually from God.
"he who is willing to sacrifice freedom for security deserves neither" sounds a lot like federal welfare spending... we sacrificed our right that was plainly laid out in the 10th amendment, so we could pursue "social justice", something politicians made up and has no basis in the constitution what soever. Earl warren was the most idiotic supreme court justice in the history of this nation. you simply have no understanding of history and dont have a fucking clue what actually happened.
@dirtclans yea i don't watch fox news. give up. And look, you are still going back to that African quote which i explained over 5 times, literally, 5 times and you STILL are talking about THAT. you are taking me out of context in that black person quote because i was responding to something you said. You are as pathetic, no MORE pathetic than the pundits on fox news.
Get a fucking life old man, stop wasting your time trying to spread propaganda on youtube you fucking loser.
@dirtclans I asked you 7 questions, you answered 0. That really says a lot about what you know and don't know about politics. You have been arguing with me for about 4 hours and you still have yet to say anything that wasn't something like
" NO NO NO NO IF YOU THINK THAT THEN YOU WATCH FOX NEWS"
"JMS SAID 'BLACK PEOPLE ARE LAZY'" (again, i've explained this countless times you fucking lowlife piece of shit. go get a job. dont u have anything better to do than leave the same 2 comments
We need a candidate who will BALANCE THE BUDGET and get us OUT OF DEBT so we stop passing on this nations mess to future generations. we need somone who realises what government programs can and should be removed, ones that are unconstitutional like federal welfare or federal funding for education.
you just have no understanding of history, they had no constitutional right to fund education with federal dollars, and they did anyway. You are in the wrong, not the ones who support the const.
stop making excuses for your own failure. thats what this country is supposed to be about, instead, we give people excuses to fail. "o but shes a single mother, she deserves a little extra money" no, she doesn't. she doesn't deserve shit because she made an irresponsible choice to have a kid, and she needs to deal with the consequences, if we give hand outs to all single mothers then why the fuck would they have any incentive to be responsible and not get knocked up every time they are drunk
if you losers in America living on welfare would look around the world, you would see that you don't have it bad at all in this country, no matter who you are. Not to mention most of the people in this country who are on welfare made the choice at some point in their life to go that route: whether it was having unprotected sex or whatever, its your fucking responsibility to deal with your actions, not the nations to make up for the mistakes you made in the past by giving you money for no reason
either pick one or the other: welfare benefits or minimum wage. how would you like to be a businessman in america. you pay higher costs for labor than anywhere else in the world, then you have a higher % of your income taken than anyone else in the nation, so you can pay for people who don't work or contribute anything to the economy whatsoever. its amazing businesses still come to this country at all, they are all leaving for china because its so hard to cut you fucking moochers off.
Japan owned us in cheap labor. There is no reason that Japanese products should have ever became superior to american products besides the simple fact that we are forced to pay our unskilled workers a much higher minimum wage. japan realized its idiotic to have both A HIGH MINIMUM WAGE AND WELFARE BENEFITS, in fact its retarded from an economic stand point, you are literally asking for other countries to out compete you when you do that., and you make it incredibly easy for them to do so.
so strange that after world war 2, while Eisenhower was president, our economy grew faster than any economy in the history of the world. Once the 60s came around and welfare got greatly expanded, our country started to lose our competitive edge vs pathetic countries that are basically our colonies, like japan. Its obvious what the cause of this is: leeches that are ruining our free market system entirely. Leeches that demand high wages for unskilled labor. leeches THAT GET PAID NOT TO WORK.
the obvious fact, is that leeches like you are ruining this country, social security and welfare is the second biggest cost behind the military (most people in this country are quite happy we have the most secure nation in the world). While most people are pissed that our second biggest cost is paying for moochers.
we run government deficits year after year, your solution: SPEND MORE! ADD MORE WELFARE RECIPIENTS, GIVE ME MORE MONEY NOT TO WORK.
what candidate do you think is better than Art Robinson, how is he better and why? (actually try bringing up facts, instead of saying ""HE ISN'T A FOX NEWS IDIOT FOX NEWS BLAH BLAH FOX NEWS"
Why is less government spending a bad idea?
Why is the public sector of the economy making, on average, double the private sector in this economy?
predictable answer: this is from fox news. but if you can't answer, that shows even idiots like Hannity are more intelligent and politically aware than you.
how are we going to keep the top health care coverage in the world while covering 20 million uninsured?
how do you plan on dealing with al Qaeda if your answer to everything is CUT MILITARY SPENDING/ WITHDRAW EVERYONE. your answer is to wait again for another attack on our home soil and other nations around the world, because you don't give a fuck about anyone but yourself and your welfare check.
how is it good for a country/economy to have leeches who get paid for not working?
and somehow we got from a debate about Art Robinson, to a debate about slavery that hasn't been going on for over 150 years. sounds like this is the argument you resort to every time you have been out debated, and evidence has been shoved in your face so much that you can't even deny it, you just have to play the race card... idiots like you that vote are ruining this country. you are willingly stupid and this pleases you that you can be such a stubborn idiot
i listen to rap and hip hop more than most people on this planet. one of my old best friends was black. I have no prejudices against black people whatsoever except the fact that they are committing most of the crimes in this nation, when you ask any black person with common sense, they will tell you they are embarrassed of the way african americans acts in general.
I don't think the government should concern itself with race at all, you do, you support idiots who support affirmative action
you really don't have a fucking clue about anthropology or evolution, as you have proven you have no clue about any issue. thats what you get for not going to college
you wind up some old senile man spending all your time on youtube telling everyone who disagrees with you that THEY WORK FOR FOX NEWS. then you start insulting them as if your insults carried any weight.
why are you still talking about black people? its your only argument, play the race card, i told you 10 times i'm not a racist
And we are done for the night Tool. Maybe if I get time after my grandson goes to sleep tomorrow, while I baby sit him I might give you more of my time educating you about how much of a delusional intellectual coward you are.
@dirtclans Or maybe what is really hard is admitting to yourself, grandkids, kids and your parents that you just couldn't be a real american who could make it on their own, and you had to resort to being a lowlife supporting every candidate for public hand outs and trying to demonize every candidate that opposes them and then claim they WORK FOR FOX NEWS!
yea go to bed, you need the rest you idiot. i bet your brain is exhausted from thinking up idiotic stubborn talking points.
@JMS13579 You're done. Go back to making movies and being a legend in your own mind. As far as old goes, like I said before, I have been laborer all my life. I could work circles around you through 90 degree heat or all day in the cold rain working in the woods. I am your superior both physically and intellectually. But then again, that is nothing to brag about now is it?
@dirtclans let me talk to your grandkids, i can tell them how their grandpa is a lowlife who lives off of other people, and then tries to demonize the very people that are helping his worthless ass because he is so ashamed of himself. Or i could tell them about how in the past 2 hours an old man wasn't able to out debate somone much younger, and had to resort to the pathetic typical liberal arguments of:
There's about 300 million people in the USA. This nation was built by all of us and all of our parents and grandparents. We all broke our backs building from the days of the Mayflower to this day. A tiny class of the richest of the rich have been able to ascend from our society with the wealth to change the rules, the laws that helped regulate a free market to keep it free. They now own all of our media. They own our politicians. They want it all. You work for them. You are a sycophant.
@dirtclans Yea i heard you man, you are a delusional marxist heres the thing. If you didn't want to work for Andrew Carnegie, you didn't have to. Thats what makes him EARN his money, you had the CHOICE to work for him or not. just cus one person is fat and anothers skinny doesn't mean that the fat person was exploiting the skinny person, thats fucking idiotic. he built a scheme and idea that gave him profits, you have the same opportunity but you are too fucking stupid to acomplish anything
@JMS13579 A Marxist? Where have we heard that before? Oh yea, Sean Hannity, Bill O'lielly, Rush Limbaugh, and the rest of the media whores on Fox News.
Working for Carnegie? The question is should the rich own both the government and the entire media of the nation? Did you realize that tradition in the USA has always been to make it against the law to own both the local newspaper and the local radio or TV station. Regan and Clinton cleared those laws. That spelled the end to a free press.
@dirtclans Nope i read the communist manifesto. Have you? nope. still stuck on fox news huh? every time you say that it is basically just confirming to me that you have no real argument and are just showing childish frustration. saying "NO YOU ARE A DORK" over and over isn't intelligent, sorry to break it to you.
The great thing about America: you can become rich too (if you weren't a low life). and you can control the government in the same way you THINK rich people do now. first ammendment
@JMS13579 If working class people could control the government we would not have Art Robinson needing to be financed by his hedge fund masters. The American political process is owned by a tiny class of billionaires who own/control the American media and our politicians. You support this. You sycophantically undercut your own standard of living the same way poor dirt farming Confederate soldiers died so a tiny number of rich plantation owners could remain rich through slavery. You are anti USA.
@dirtclans I am anti USA because i dont think "the working class people could(should) control the govt" hahahahaha. that is literally, word for word, the DEFINITION of communism/marxism. Its simple, they earned the money. Just because you don't think they deserve it doesn't mean they didn't earn it.
Should we start taxing all movie starts 99% income tax because 'they don't deserve it' no, its their right to the money they made and they can do whatever the fuck they want, they don't owe u shit.
@JMS13579 No that is not the word for Communism. It is the word for Democracy. You don't think that a Constitutionally guided majority should rule? Then you support an oligarchy, which is exactly what Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and Sara Palin sycophantically work towards. You are a tool. You hate to see yourself as a such. But that is what you are - a sap, a sucker who played through his fears. Cowardice and ignorance is your guide in your thinking. You are a pathetic tool.
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RON PAUL, WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR AN ANSWER! TELL AMERICAN PEOPLE HOW EXACTLY RU GOING TO CREATE JOBS? OK LETS SAY ALL TROOPS CAME BACK AND THEN WHAT? THEY ARE GOING TO SELL IPHONES AND BLACKBERRIES? DUDE BE A MEN, HOW RU GOING TO CREATE JOBS? POPULATION OF CHINA IS 1.4 B CHINESE WORK LIKE ROBOTS, BE HONEST TELL AMERICAN PEOPLE TO BUY UR BOOK U NEED CASH , U LOVE POWER, U LOVE CASH, U WILL NEVER CREATE JOBS, U HAVE NO ANSWER!
democratsaresmart 7 months ago
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schulwitz 11 months ago
good work bro. keep the videos coming!!!
HooliTV 1 year ago
Art Robinson is a compulsive liar and I'm glad he lost!
timeofpride 1 year ago
what we really need to share around the internet, is that each of us must give consent to be represented under common law.
voting in elections, is not giving required consent to be represented, an assumption from the 'elected person' is made since you failed to notify them within a 30 day period, and by default and by your negligence, they are assuming role as your representative.
you can notify that they do not represent you and you can name the person who you choose to represent you.
slammah2012 1 year ago
JMS13579, Trust me when I say I will be enjoying a nice cold 6-pack watching Art-tard lose on Tuesday.
techexecutioner 1 year ago
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JMS13579 1 year ago
I hope Art drowns in boiling dookie.
techexecutioner 1 year ago
DeFraudzio somehow thinks that raising taxes will generate jobs. He wants all of us working on the side of the 5 freeway picking up trash. The only trash we need to pick up and throw away is DeFraudzio! Vote for Art Robinson!
CaliforniaArchitect 1 year ago 2
@CaliforniaArchitect ...go back to California.
techexecutioner 1 year ago
@CalifornArcitect The Congressional Office of Budget has attributed the Bush tax cuts for the rich to causing trillions of dollars of debt that we are contending with right now. DeFazio supports not extending these tax cuts for the rich. You repeat the same Fox News Republican party slogan that raising taxes on the super rich is always to be spoken of as "raising our taxes". As if to say we are all super rich. Defazio is for extending the tax breaks for the middle class. You're a moron.
dirtclans 1 year ago
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JMS13579 1 year ago
I did not take him out of context, that's just one more line you use in a string of excuses for this moron who doesn't even believe in global warming. According the figures the US Pentagon is spending millions to prepare for the hundreds of millions of people who are expected to flea flooded and drought stricken lands around the world, in the decades to come flowing over boarders causing strife and wars around the planet. Robinson is a ap dog of the filthy rich. You are his loyal idiot.
dirtclans 1 year ago
o and the best part: people elect some idiot like Defazio who promises to "invest in their childrens future" so they throw a ton of more money at the same federal public schools that haven't done shit for our country for the past 60 years. Just like they did in the good ol NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND act (you people are idiots).
They should require you to take a history test before you can vote but you ignorant idiots are too hostile to this idea, and this is why no good candidate will ever win.
JMS13579 1 year ago
the best part is the American people aren't smart enough to open up a history book and realize what happened to our schools. instead they listen to the candidates say "INCREASE FUNDING FOR EDUCTATION = INVESTING IN OUR CHILDRENS FUTURE" and every time someone like Art Robinson tries to make a solid point that THE FEDERAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE OUR PROBLEM, people try to make him out or actually think he is as a nutbag who is against ALL PUBLIC schools. when he is the only one with a real solution
JMS13579 1 year ago
I meet Art and his son Matthew yesterday. Totally cool guys. Art is a srt8 up local boy. His son is very respectful like his dad. I got a dozen plus ppl to vote for him
johnnyoregon 1 year ago
this dude is batshit insane
yellowjester 1 year ago
Google this
Washington Post AR2010101603822
dirtclans 1 year ago
Art Robinson is one of the only decent candidates in the entire United States government, the only thing that keeps good people like him from getting elected is propaganda artists like DIRTCLANS who are paid by Defazio to get on youtube and spread bullshit and fake links anywhere they can about an honest man...
I'm not going to tell anyone who to vote for, but atleast look at Art Robinson, he is one of the only candidates who tells the truth rather than what people wan't to hear. usa needs him
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 I agree.
adb024 1 year ago
@JMS13579 Do yourself a favor and learn what is happening in the real world beyond Fox News and Glen Beck. Do a youtube search of these words:
The Tree Hugging Pentagon
Or just copy and paste this suffix into the end of the youtube URL at the top of your browser.
watch?v=FR79KGCrqao
dirtclans 1 year ago
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JMS13579 1 year ago
i like robinson. people are calling him a nut, but they were saying the same about ron paul before all his predictions came true. i think he handles himself well in interviews, he just doesn't say what they want to hear.
RL36D 1 year ago
when someone who is a third of your age tries to have a rational argument, and you resort to repeating the same things over and over FOR OVER 100 COMMENTS(FOX NEWS, RACISM, CHRISTIANS) that don't add anything to the debate at all.
This is what people call: Pathetic.
And its what i call: A waste of what is left of your pathetic life.
Just give up, you have already lost, you have proven incapable of rational debate and every time you respond you just look worst and worst.
JMS13579 1 year ago
DIRTCLANS, in over 100 comments (this is an actual count, anyone who wants to check, look back through ALL COMMENTS)
0 rational arguments containing evidence to back them up
0 answers to any questions i asked DIRTCLANS
10 random slurs about Christians in general
10+ times of trying to label me a racist (he is still trying to do this, all he does is take 1 quote out of its context... so sad, hes over 60 and this is what hes wasting his time doing)
20+ counts randomly about fox news
JMS13579 1 year ago
so enjoy talking to yourself, instead of responding from now on i am just going to post quotes of you saying retarded shit:
how do you beat Al Qaeda "the us uses a fourth of the worlds energy" (thats not an answer... hahah)
I like how you use the word delusional so often, it is obvious you have been called this a number of times
JMS13579 1 year ago
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JMS13579 1 year ago
dirtclans is being paid by defazio to try to ruin Art Robinsons campaign, beware.
JMS13579 1 year ago
DIRTCLANS EXACT QUOTES: "I never said anything about Christians"
"Black people have been tormented by hundreds of years of cowardly Christian terror."
"how many times have we heard this crap from white christian racist scum"
"our economy was run into the ground by white christian voters who elected GW bush"
"more than 400 years in america there was a slave master culture based in the bible belt - the home of todays brand of Christianity"
"art robinson is a christian identity bigot
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 Christians by identity like you, are not Christians by being Christ like. You are a white Christian identity person. You are not intelligent enough to form your own identity, instead you cling to cult mentality where feel safe by believing you are part of larger group. The rest of us who are not cowards think for ourselves. And if I was working for Defazio I would be on a video log visted by significant numbers of people now wouldn't Ace? You're a real genius aren't you?
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans how does someone who didn't go to college call someone who has finished college unintelligent?
Oh thats easy, they are stubborn idiots and love being willingly stupid.
seriously man, you are fucking senile. When did you ever hear me say one time, that i am a christian or support anything christians do. You didn't. you just started ranting about christians becuase you have nothing intelligent to say whatsoever.
THIS IS NO SURPRISE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GO TO FUCKING COLLEGE LOSER.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@dirtclans you are on MULTIPLE videos dumbfuck, of course you are working for Defazio, the fact that you just tried to deny it makes it even more obvious
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 Work for Defazio? You think I work for him? You call arguing with an idiot like you "work"? It is not work, it is a piece of cake. This whole discussion began with me posting a comment about Art Robinson promoting home schooling books for children by an author who refers to black people as lazy. You defended this by arguing - BY ARGUING - that black people are indeed lazy. Now you just lie about this and deny you ever made such bigoted statements. This isn't work my friend, it is easy!
dirtclans 1 year ago
Anyone with a brain can see dirtclans is a liar. look at the following quotes.
he just distorts my views because he can't out debate me.
all he has is propaganda about art robinson, i actually think he is being paid by Defazio, he has no proof at all about the shit he claims about art robinson, and everytime you throw facts in his face he respons with the same stubborn bullshit and brings up FOX NEWS randomly and then
"JMS SAID BLACK PEOPLE ARE LAZY" (hes distorting what i said entirely)
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JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 You keep calling the facts propaganda as if you are the only person not able to Google search terms with the names Robert Mercer and Art Robinson and read for themselves that Robinson has received 98% of funding from 2 men, one giving him more than $350,000 dollars. That man being Mercer who is a hedge fund manager worth multiple billions of dollars. Just like Bush, idiots like you vote for clowns who are shills for Wall St fat cats. You should have learned from Bush. But you learn???
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans there is no credible article saying any of that. thats why every time you bring that up you make sure to tell everyone to: "type this in quotes in google" because you have to lead them to the article that you or one of your idiotic propaganda buddies wrote, its completely obvious, your website looks like fucking shit hahaha
apparently Defazio doesn't have enough money to fund a decent propaganda campaign, cus you suck dick at spreading propaganda.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 Yea I guess I was right, you are not able to Google search terms and find common information. The first article on this subject was in the Register Guard 2 days ago. If you were the kind of person who read the news paper once in while you might now these things. Instead all you do is watch Fox News and listen to Rush Limbaugh.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans why don't you post a link of the story from a credible source?
because you can't
and you like being stubborn and not responding to anything i say, but instead i can look forward to a random rant about FOX NEWS, CHRISTIANS AND BLACK PEOPLE. lol. the left is sure getting pathetic these days.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579
Google search terms:
Concerned Taxpayers group is powered by only two donors AR2010101603822
Not in quotes.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans are you retarded or just incredibly stubborn, i really can't tell. what does concerned tax payers for america have anything to do with Art Robinson you fucking idiot. Guess what, this is America, you can spend your money however the fuck you wan't, if 2 people want to throw their money into putting out an anti Defazio campaign they have the right to do that, the same way you have the right to be getting paid by Defazio, which you obviously are.
did you even watch this video?
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 Are we debating whether this America? Or whether it is a nation where people are free to spend their money any way they want? No we are not. Yet you pretend that is what I have argued. No that is what you are now arguing as a strawman. I contend only one thing, that Art Robinson gets 98% of his financing from Robert Mercer, a hedge manager worth multiple billions of dollars.
Now I know you hate this fact being brought to light. Lying about what the argument is, is just a distraction.
dirtclans 1 year ago
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JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 It would appear that you will go anywhere with this discussion but to the key point here. That point being that Art Robinson is a man with little interest in society. He home schools his kids rather being a participant in his local schools. He follows right wing Christian ideals that are all about finger pointing and little about working for change. A Wall St billionaire finances Art Robinson so he can, in his old age, go to DC and follow a strict party line vote to work for Wall St.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans If you homeschool your kids that doesn't imply you don't care about society, that is completely irrelevant, he probably thinks our public schools suck (they do) and wants his kids to get a good education. 'right wing Christian ideals' is not a synonym for 'evil' sorry. Republicans do support the financial elite in America, i just happen to think thats a better route to take than to sell out to the bottom feeders. At least the financial elite create private sector jobs.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@dirtclans the entire point of this video was to refute what idiotic propaganda spreaders like you have been saying, he literally has a direct response to the bullshit you are claiming at the very start of this video.
First, you have no credible source for anything you say, and you prove it by not being able to cite one.
second, even if concerned taxpayers is paid for by 2 people, so what?
third, you have no proof they gave any money to Art Robinson.
more arguments with 0 evidence from you
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 If? If Concerned Citizens is financed by a billionaire? Not if, it is. And for you to contend that your refusal to accept this fact is the same as me not proving this fact, is just plain delusional thinking on your part. You know it is true, but you are committed to drinking the kool-aid and you can't let yourself admit that you're a sycophantic tool of the ruling class who are undermining your standard of living with you as their aid in accomplishing it. Pathetic is what you are.
dirtclans 1 year ago
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JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS1379 You ignore all the facts about the Republican party being all for letting the ruling billionaire class buy up all our politicians just as Robert Mercer, CEO of his own hedge fund worth billions of dollars, pays for 98% of all of the Art Robinson for Senate campaign costs. Polls show Robinson giving Defazio a run for his money? No, not really, Wall St is though. The class of billionaires who own run nation are giving Defazio a run for his money. Not Robinson - Robert Mercer is the one.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans Not to mention candidates like Art Robinson and Ron Paul are anything but your typical republican and they do not owe the party much allegiance at all. They do take on the financial elite by proposing to reform or abolish the federal reserve, this could make a larger difference than every policy a democrat has ever dreamed of for wrestling power away from the rich. The fact that you try to associate Art Robinson with fox news shows you really don't understand his viewpoints at all.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 You don't get far going after the Fed while being bankrolled by Wall St billionaires. Art Robinson is a self important person out for fame. He could give a shit about our society. Any man who would advocate getting rid of public education is an out of touch delusional megalomaniac. Which says what about you? You who pretends that Robinson saying he wants to abolish the fed somehow erases the cold hard fact that he is owned by a Wall St billionaire? Talk is cheap.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans he never said ABOLISH public education, he said get rid of FEDERAL education and go back to LOCALLY funded PUBLIC schools. They worked in the US for over 100 years when we had the best schools in the world, then the federal government took over education and you people wonder WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SCHOOLS? seriously..
If YOU DONT THINK that we need to stop federally funded public schools then YOU are a delusional megalomaniac, and you haven't even taken a look at the constitution.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS3579 ""The whole public school system is child abuse though. There's just no other way to describe it.""
Source: Art Robinson Homeschooling Curriculum Promotional Video, Accessed October 5, 2010.
Robinson is an avid promoter of home schooling. All you do is simply deny the facts. You have done this consistently throughout our entire discussion. When you say "he never said that." And he did, YOU ARE A LIAR. You put a quote he actually did say and want me to believe that is all he said. Lie.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans lol you lost the debate bad and AGAIN you go back to YOU LIE lol...
you don't know jack shit about
politics
history
or Art Robinson
Get that through your head, you take his quotes out of context and think you are convincing someone besides your idiotic self. when i say "he never said that"
i am referring to actually knowing his stance on public schools, and realizing you are just taking his quotes out of context for some stupid reason
oh yea, you are paid by Defazio
scum bag
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 Here is the youtube video of Art Robinson giving a speech where he takes pride in sharing his opinion that "public schools should be abolished."
I am sure that when you watch this video you will post a response here retracting your claim that Robinson never said he thought "public schools should be abolished." Because what you wrote is a flat out lie. Who tells people such lies? Art Robinson? Or did you make that lie up on your own?
(after the URL slash mark)
watch?v=53AXhbo7YT0
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans lol are you an idiot? he was making a joke to a bunch of republican congressman and realized that the better solution would actually be to abolish them than to vote for the bill they were discussing.
you took him out of context AGAIn
you have nothing to say AGAIN
you are just a stubborn idiot, all you did was denied everything and said "you lie" AGAIN.
Get a fucking life you uneducated old man, you are so damn annoying and stubborn it's amazing.
JMS13579 1 year ago
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JMS13579 1 year ago
Anyone with a brain can see who the real liar is. DIRTCLANS is the most pathetic human being i have ever witnessed in my life. he is a racist bigot and he tries to accuse everyone else of being one as his only argument because he simply has no other arguments to use; he knows he's wrong.
Don't listen to ratty bitches like DIRTCLANS, they are being paid for by Peter Defazio, its the only reasonable explanation for why he would distort my views and lie so stubbornly over and over and over
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS3579 Yea, don't listen to me, instead just go through this log where you can read for yourself how you repeatedly made racist bigoted statements saying black people were lazy. You did this while defending Art Robinson for selling the same belief. It was you admitting that Art Robinson does indeed promote home school books that he sells by an author who contends that black people are lazy and unable to take care of themselves. Home schooling is for control freaks. Robinson is a theofascist.
dirtclans 1 year ago
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DIRTCLANS QUOTES: "I never said anything about Christians"
"Black people have been tormented by hundreds of years of cowardly Christian terror."
"how many times have we heard this crap from white christian racist scum"
"our economy was run into the ground by white christian voters who elected GW bush"
"more than 400 years in america there was a slave master culture based in the bible belt - the home of todays brand of Christianity"
"art robinson is a christian identity bigot"
JMS13579 1 year ago
If you don't vote for Art Robinson you are letting idiots like DIRTCLANS win, who purposefully lie and distort peoples(mine and Art Robinson's) views because they know they are wrong and can't win a rational debate.
His articles that he tells you to read are nothing but propaganda, and they are probably funded by the same people who are paying DIRTCLANS to waste his time coming on youtube spreading lies and propaganda. There is so much proof that he is a lying rat that i don't even need to say
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 How do you win a rational debate? You argue that black people are lazy just so you can defend Art Robinson for promoting books by an author who believed the same. The rationality for your beliefs are basically dittoing Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. With this as your way of being rational you are helpless to refute the facts. The main fact - Art Robinson is being financed by a Wall St hedge fund manager worth billions of dollars. Truth is hard to fight when you're just a Fox News flunky.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans you and i both know you are a pathetic uneducated idiot stubbornly repeating the same shit over and over that i have refuted multiple times.
the fact that you are still trying to define my own opinions on black people for me is evidence to everyone with a functioning brain that you are an idiot. you are clearly someone prejudice towards Christians however, what a fucking bigot you are haha, damn you are a pathetic form of life.
how much is Defazio paying you you slimy rat fuck?
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 I don't define you beliefs about black people. You do. All I do is quote you.
You really are the easiest person to slam dunk in an argument. It is as if you have no brains at all.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans I went to college, finished, 2 degrees, you didn't.
Regarding black people, You take my quotes out of context, any idiot can do that. if i had an oppinion dont you think id stand by it dumbas
Your stuborness doesn't make you look smart, it has the exact opposite effect?
Are you done yet? or are you going to keep randomly ranting and then acting like you "slam dunked me in an argument" when we both know you have gotten your ass owned on every single issue you've dared to bring up.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 Hilarious that you would say, "If I had an opinion don't you think I would stand by it?" Considering that last night on this log you wrote in regards to me condemning you for your bigoted statements about black people that you take back what you said. Again, you behave as though you are completely delusional about your self image. This is why i say you are so full of self hate. You deny who you are constantly. Pathetic.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans Yes, that makes perfect sense, i am denying who i am, because i am 'delusional and full of self hate'. Or maybe you are just trying to distort my views because its the only pathetic argument you have left.
hmwhich one makes more sense?
still clinging to the black argument? in other words you admit i have proven you wrong on every SINGLE point that you have dared to bring up
so sad you cant have a rational debate in this country anymore without some idiot randomly playing race card
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dirtclans can't debate with me so he tries distorting my views. If i "standed by my belief that black people are lazy" i wouldn't have already explained multiple times that he is distorting my views.
He is on his last desperate attempt at making an argument because he realized i am vastly more educated than he is and he really has no clue what hes talking about.
DIRTCLANS is being paid by someone in the Dafazio camp, i almost guarantee it. his articles are from far left wing sites lol
JMS13579 1 year ago
Anyone with a brain can see who the real liar is.
Real Americans vote for Art Robinson. Don't let these moochers on welfare convince you through propaganda on youtube. Art Robinson has real solutions to fix this country, the other side has nothing, their answer to everything is GIVE ME MORE MONEY FROM SOMEONE ELSE IN OUR COUNTRY VIA THE GOVT, FOR NOTHING IN RETURN AT ALL, JUST FREE MONEY VIA OTHER CITIZENS WHO EARNED IT. It doesn't work, it hasn't worked AND ITS NOT GOING TO WORK ANYMORE
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS379 Art Robinson is beginning his political career with a campaign that is 98% funded by "Concerned Taxpayers of America" made up of two tax payers, Daniel G. Schuster, and Robert Mercer.
Google the following, in the quotes and read all about them:
"Daniel G. Schuster Inc., an Owings Mills, Maryland concrete company and Robert Mercer, a hedge fund executive, are the only two financial supporters of Concerned Taxpayers of America."
Robinson is a shill for Wall St billionaires.
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DIRTCLANS QUOTES: "I never said anything about Christians"
"Black people have been tormented by hundreds of years of cowardly Christian terror."
"how many times have we heard this crap from white christian racist scum"
"our economy was run into the ground by white christian voters who elected GW bush"
"more than 400 years in america there was a slave master culture based in the bible belt - the home of todays brand of Christianity"
"art robinson is a christian identity bigot"
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just wait, all of DIRTCLANS following comments:
0 points/0questions of mine answered (ive been asking the same 10 questions that he has stubbornly refused to answer for over 100 comments)
he will try to relate me to fox news
he will say i am a racist because of a comment he is taking out of context, he will deny he is taking it out of context, then he will call me a liar.
this guy is the most pathetic person i've witnessed on youtube, an old senile loser whose pride has been severely hurt
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 Is a racist who claims black people are lazy even when challenged to defend such a claim he stands by his belief that black people are lazy. In this log he even went so far as to sight the decolonized African continent's economic condition as evidence of his belief. He espouses verbatim the identical ignorant sycophantic fear based bigoted politics we see on Fox News - the Republican Party News channel. I have hurt his self hating self esteem. He is a cry baby.
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DIRTCLANS BLATANT LIES: "I never said anything about Christians"
"Black people have been tormented by hundreds of years of cowardly Christian terror."
"how many times have we heard this crap from white christian racist scum"
"our economy was run into the ground by white christian voters who elected GW bush"
"more than 400 years in america there was a slave master culture based in the bible belt - the home of todays brand of Christianity"
"art robinson is a christian identity bigot"
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 Says he is not a Christian. He says he is not a conservative. He says lies lies lies lies.
dirtclans 1 year ago
the first line of this video says it all:
YOU ARE DISTORTING MY VIEWS
Thats what the idiot pundit on MSNBC is doing to art, thats what DIRTCLANS is doing to me. so sad that all left wing die hard liberals have is to distort the other sides views, try to put words in their mouth, and then make an argument from there.
they are entirely conceding that they couldn't debate me or Art, so they had to make up arguments that neither of us are supporting.
I know, fucking pathetic right?
JMS13579 1 year ago
Anyone who cares, read through our comments, you will realize how big of an idiot this guy is. He tries to pretend he is debating, but really he just rants about fox news, every time you bring up a point he has no argument for he says "YOU GOT THAT FROM FOX NEWS" as if that is relevant whatsoever... people like him hardly deserve to breathe, they are willingly stupid and love spreading misinformation around because they know the truth makes them look like the senile low life losers they are
JMS13579 1 year ago
"what is this about (Defazio) saying you got $40,000 from Wall St?"
Then Robinson says that's not true. Yes that is not true. Robinson's campaign has received more than $500,000 from just one source associated with Wall St. Google search words - Mercer hedge fund gives to Robinson -
Mercer is CEO of a hedge fund who is worth multiple billions. He has single handed created the Art Robinson campaign viable. Mercer knows Robinson can't win in Lane County but he just wants to pressure Dems.
dirtclans 1 year ago
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@dirtclans DIRTCLANS QUOTES: "I never said anything about Christians"
"Black people have been tormented by hundreds of years of cowardly Christian terror."
"how many times have we heard this crap from white christian racist scum"
"our economy was run into the ground by white christian voters who elected GW bush"
"more than 400 years in america there was a slave master culture based in the bible belt - the home of todays brand of Christianity"
"art robinson is a christian identity bigot"
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dirtclans 1 year ago
i think that this guy is honest. i know that anyone that is standing by the truth and the right thing to do is always rumored by wrong stuff and fought by the ones that do wrong. just because they know the solution but don't wanna do it because it's illgotten narrow benefits
MUSLIMUJAHID 1 year ago
@MUSLIMUJAHID You think? No, no you don't.
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JMS13579 1 year ago
its just so funny every time a die hard liberal tries to get into a debate, they realize the fact that they know nothing about reality is about to make them look stupid, the best thing they can think to do is play the race card, over and over and over and over and over. Its the only defense mechanism they have: exhibit A is DIRTCLANS.
Anyone who reads our comments knows how big of a stubborn idiot this old man is.
JMS13579 1 year ago
For the last fucking time.
Im not a racist, one of my best friends is black.
Im not a chirstian
Im not even a conservative
If these are the only arguments you have left, i have already won this debate a long time ago, you have just wasted my time for the last 50 comments or so by repeating your same dumb shit about KKK and fox news.
really man, if i was your grand kid i would be fucking embarrassed. you are supposed to become wise with age, not stubborn and pathetic.
JMS13579 1 year ago
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@JMS13579 The first true and accurate things you've asserted:
"m not a chirstian Im not even a conservative"
So true, what you are is just a simple self hating bigot with very little education who goes around lying about his understanding of his own self image.
dirtclans 1 year ago
Anyone who wants a good laugh, read through DIRTCLANS and mines 'debate' and you can witness an old man literally losing his mind.
ill just tell everyone what dirtclans is going to say next:
FOX NEWS, YOU WORK FOR FOX NEWS BLAH BLAH BLAH RUSH LIMBAUGH
BLACK PEOPLE BLACK PEOPLE, WHAT DOES THIS DEBATE HAVE TO DO WITH BLACK PEOPLE, NOTHING AT ALL, ITS JUST THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK TO STUBBORNLY HOLD ON TO BECAUSE I AM LOOKING LIKE AN IDIOT DEBATING WITH YOU.
yea, you are, give up.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 In your delusional mind you actually believe people would read through your cry baby complaints and temper tantrums? It doesn't take much of an investment of reading to see you are a person with no beliefs of your own. You simply quote right wing media whores word for word. You lie about having college degrees while demonstrating you barely have a vocabulary over a 10th grader. You are a pathetic fool who is a legend in his own mind.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans You are just jealous of the fact i have college DEGREES and you don't have shit. you try to attempt to use the hardest words you know to appear smart, and you fail miserably.
you haven't answered a single fucking one of my questions, and just like i predicted this was your response:
BLAH BLAH FOX NEWS YOU ARE BRAINWASHED RIGHT WING FOX NEWS I CANT DEBATE THE POINTS YOU BRING UP SO I JUST NEED TO MAKE FUN OF FOX NEWS OVER AND OVER AND TRY TO CONNECT YOU TO IT
JMS13579 1 year ago
@dirtclans Something happens when you go to college: you become informed and don't have to cling to the same idiotic/stubborn argument over and over: FOX NEWS FOX NEWS. Ok, everyone heard you
now are you going to answer a single fucking question I asked you or are you going to change the subject again because you know you are a fucking retard?
yea thats what i thought, you are gunna change the subject again. ill be waiting for your FOX NEWS BLAH BLAH comment, you fucking loser.
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JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 You keep clinging to your delusional justifications for why you're a hate spewing bigot. You've repeatedly claimed that it's you who pays for black people on welfare. This is poor white trailer trash, culture of the Klan, bullshit 101. How many times have we all heard this crap from white Christian Identity racist scum? You don't pay for shit, you use all the infrastructure of this nation and then complain when black people use it too. Trailer trash is what you are. Poor white trash.
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JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 You never said anything about black people? Again you're a simple liar. And when you spam the whole page while claiming not to be bothered, you are contradicting yourself, er ahh... you are lying. And then the lies continue. You asked about Al Qeada, I replied. You asked about taxes, I explained them to you.
You were done the moment you attempted to argue with someone who has an open mind and thinks for himself rather than sucking up cowardly fear based Fox News politics. Pathetic.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans lol im a liar? you still stuck on the black thing? its clear you have nothing meaningful to say so you still stuck on the black thing. you haven't answered a single fucking question loser. you just stubbornly say you have over and over then bring up fox news. show me a quote where you have answered ANY question, o wait, you can't, dumbfuck. your answer to defeating alqaeda was a quote about how much we spend on energy: you have no answers you delusional old senile idiot.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@dirtclans ATTENTION EVERYONE. DIRTCLANS IS IN SUCH A BAD STATE OF DENIAL, HE IS ACTING LIKE A CHILD. HE IS CLINGING TO ONE COMMENT I MADE, WHERE I SAID IN RESPONSE TO HIM SAYING "CULTURAL DIFFERENCES ACOUNT FOR ALL SOCIOECONOMIC DIFFERENCES IN THE WORLD" I SAID "THATS A FANCY PHRASE FOR LAZY"
HE WILL NOT LET THIS GO, I HAVE POINTED THIS OUT MULTIPLE TIMES, HE IS IN A SAD STATE OF DENIAL, THIS IS THE ONLY ARGUMENT HE HAS LEFT, HE HAS BEEN DESTROYED ON EVERY DEBATE.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@dirtclans I wish you'd give me the name of who hires you guys to do all this....
I've been unemployed for quite awhile.
linwooddeaton 1 year ago
@linwooddeaton i know, he must be getting paid for this, noone can be this willingly stupid for no reason...
JMS13579 1 year ago
@linwooddeaton, Your perspective is that people get paid to give a shit about the political process of our nation? Well let me inform you, there are more people in this nation who actually care than you might think. Now if you are able to refute what I contend I would love to see you do that. Refute the fact 98% of Art Robinson's campaing money does not come from billioniares like Robert Mercer. It is one thing to make stupid allegations, it's another thing to back them up. Which you can't do.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans you don't listen to anyone but yourself talk. shut the fuck up you old stubborn dumbfuck. there is obviously nothing i can say to make you admit how much of a fucking low life you are, because every time i try you do the same thing and try to tell me im a KKK member because i believe in cutting worthless moochers like YOU off welfare (that has nothing to do with black people at all, dumbfuck)
the fact that all you can do is play the race card is concrete evidence you are ignorant
JMS13579 1 year ago
@dirtclans Back in Rome they would laugh at you. All you can do is stage personal attacks, you haven't debated one fucking issue i have brought up. Every time i ask you why its a good idea for us to keep moochers on welfare, you change the subject and try to make it a race issue, or you make some idiotic comment about fox news.
stop trying to label me, and grow a fucking brain and learn to debate the points that i have made you look absolutely stupid with. dumbass old man, im a third of ur age
JMS13579 1 year ago
@dirtclans O look i called it AGAIN, for the fucking 10th time, i asked dirtclans about 10 questions, he doesn't answer or even talk about a single one of them and then starts ranting about the KKK and fox news.
in other words, anyone who disagrees with dirtclans, is a member of the KKK, in his senile mind that is. either that or you work for fox.
in reality its obvious that dirtclans is just a mooching loser whose pride is so hurt he has to stubbornly argue with me on youtube; he cant win.
JMS13579 1 year ago
This is how our arguments have been going:
Me: How do you plan to balance our budget and get out of debt if you keep increasing government spending by giving away money to people who don't do anything to earn it?
DIRTCLANS: YOU ARE A RACIST, LET ME BRING UP A QUOTE YOU SAID 50 COMMENTS AGO, YOU WORK FOR FOX NEWS. IDIOT. IDIOT. BRAINWASHED IDIOT. IDIOT. IDIOT.IDIOT
me: so you can't answer my question?
DIRTCLAN: EVERYONE JMS SAID THAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE LAZY, EVEN THOUGH ITS OUT OF CONTEXT
JMS13579 1 year ago
Jms also wrote, about 5 times: "Alright, since you aren't going to let this go. even though i clearly didn't state that all black people are lazy, if thats how you interpreted it, i take it back entirely, because thats not what i believe. so please stop putting words in my mouth."
I was responding to something he said, he took the quote out of context
I know, pathetic as fuck.
Dirtclans hasn't sad one thing besides "FOX NEWS BLAH BLAH" "BLACK PEOPLE BLAH BLAH" in a 4 hour argument
JMS13579 1 year ago
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dirtclans 1 year ago
@JMS1379 wrote: "How do you explain the fact that African nations didn't do any of the colonizing? Or lack of African inventors? "cultural norms" that's a word used as an excuse for lazy people, that losers like you use because you have no real arguments. Black people are lazy, go ask one of them instead of trying stick up for people for the sake of seeming 'enlightened'."
He also wrote: "can you point comment where i said "all black people are lazy"
you pulled out of your ass dumbfuck"
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans You couldn't answer a SINGLE one of my questions.
instead you
1. Brought up the same quote about black people being lazy that i have already: taken back, and explained how you took that quote way out of context over 5 times.
2. sent me a link to some article written by another idiot similiar to you that can't get over Americans EARN their money, they don't owe the government or the poor jack shit
3 you brought up fox news, that has to literally have been your 50th time doing so
JMS13579 1 year ago
@dirtclans Google: 10th amendment, dumbfuck.
Still waiting for your brilliant answers that you have failed to give:
how do we fix our economy, our education system?
how do we get rid of our debt?
how do we fight al qaeda if you think we should just withdraw and cut military spending?
HOW IN THE FUCK DO LOWLIFES WHO GET OTHER PEOPLES MONEY FOR NOT WORKING VIA THE GOVT HELP OUR ECONOMY/SOCIETY?
why is art robinson not the best candidate?
you have nothing but sad childish rants. fucking low life
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS9 How do we fight Al Qeada? The USA is 5% of the worlds population, we use 25% of the worlds energy reserves. Thus the need for the biggest military on earth. Millions of Muslims have died because the USA and it's western allies have manipulated the power structure in the middle east ever since oil mattered to us all. In just one war between Saddam Hussein's Iraq (American made puppet) and Iran, 1 million died. We aided that war w/ satellite images and weapons sales. You have no clue do you?
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans I could tell you about 100 books that you need to "read", any fucking idiot can get on youtube, pretend they are right about everything and then say "GO READ THIS ARTICLE IF YOU DONT AGREE YOU ARE WRONG"
my guess is everyone you know hates you, because only a really pissed of loser would argue the way you have been doing for the past 4 hours: no points, childish stubborn bullshit over and over and over and over and over FOX NEWS NEWS FOX NEWS, o you failed to answer a single question
JMS13579 1 year ago
@dirtclans THE QUOTE THAT DIRTCLAN WONT STOP BRINGING UP THAT HAPPENED 50 COMMENTS AGO:
I was responding to an idiotic point he made saying "cultural norms" account for peoples 'socioeconomic differences'. and my response was, that is a fancy phrase for lazy, and it is. notice i said "black people are lazy" not "all black people are lazy" and in an earlier comment i made it entirely clear saying GENERALLY.
you are willingly stupid. just shut the fuck up, you lost, you sound like an idiot.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS You not only said black people were lazy, you went on to argue with examples, sighting the condition of African nations today. You called me a progressive (as if it was a derogatory term) saying I was only trying to be a hero to black people by sticking up for them. I argued that I was merely pointing out that you're a pea brain bigot who doesn't understand the significance of cultural practices and how they evolve. You only reneged on your claims after I called your bluff and quoted you.
dirtclans 1 year ago
As of this morning, Art is losing miserably. This was'nt expected. I thought he
would fair better. I guess he needs to start putting together a sign pick-up plan
before the winds hit. And there are many and not biodegradable..................
sfaster 1 year ago
heres the history of the 60s you learned : WHITE PEOPLE ARE MEANIES WHO ARE RACISTS AND DISCRIMINATED BLACKS THROUGH COWARDLY CHRISTIAN TERROR. A BUNCH OF BLACK PEOPLE LIKE MLK, TRIED TO BEG THEM TO STOP, BUT THE EVIL CHRISTIANS JUST KILLED INNOCENT BLACKS EVERYWHERE THEY COULD. THEN THANKS TO GOD, AKA JOHN KENNEDY, IT ALL STOPPED what really happened is Kennedy ignored civil rights until it was a popular stance to take, THEN THANKS AGAIN TO LYNDON JOHNSON who wiped his ass with our constitution
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 @JMS13579
Google this in the quotes:
"Commentary: Wall Street has already voted By Holly Sklar Distributed by McClatchy-Tribune News Service"
First hit on Google. If you can't read this all the way through it is because you can't allow yourself to be educated about the real world. This article says all you need to know to learn who Art Robinson is owned by. Hard to accept I am sure, but see if you are able to read it all.
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JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS359 Writes: "the rich don't owe you shit low life."
Code for: "I'm a disciple of Professor Glen Beck of Fox News University. All I know can be found in the propaganda they espouse. "
Yea you're right, your argument, that is an exact quote of Limbaugh and Beck, about America being a capitalist nation, actually does mean that America has never had a tax system based on income. And all the schools, roads, hospitals, and such that are paid for by taxes, they actually from God.
You're right.
dirtclans 1 year ago
"he who is willing to sacrifice freedom for security deserves neither" sounds a lot like federal welfare spending... we sacrificed our right that was plainly laid out in the 10th amendment, so we could pursue "social justice", something politicians made up and has no basis in the constitution what soever. Earl warren was the most idiotic supreme court justice in the history of this nation. you simply have no understanding of history and dont have a fucking clue what actually happened.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 Google this:
"The lies of Fox News" or just paste this suffix into the youtube url at the top of your browser:
watch?v=ok01hJHvobM
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans yea i don't watch fox news. give up. And look, you are still going back to that African quote which i explained over 5 times, literally, 5 times and you STILL are talking about THAT. you are taking me out of context in that black person quote because i was responding to something you said. You are as pathetic, no MORE pathetic than the pundits on fox news.
Get a fucking life old man, stop wasting your time trying to spread propaganda on youtube you fucking loser.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@dirtclans I asked you 7 questions, you answered 0. That really says a lot about what you know and don't know about politics. You have been arguing with me for about 4 hours and you still have yet to say anything that wasn't something like
" NO NO NO NO IF YOU THINK THAT THEN YOU WATCH FOX NEWS"
"JMS SAID 'BLACK PEOPLE ARE LAZY'" (again, i've explained this countless times you fucking lowlife piece of shit. go get a job. dont u have anything better to do than leave the same 2 comments
JMS13579 1 year ago
We need a candidate who will BALANCE THE BUDGET and get us OUT OF DEBT so we stop passing on this nations mess to future generations. we need somone who realises what government programs can and should be removed, ones that are unconstitutional like federal welfare or federal funding for education.
you just have no understanding of history, they had no constitutional right to fund education with federal dollars, and they did anyway. You are in the wrong, not the ones who support the const.
JMS13579 1 year ago
stop making excuses for your own failure. thats what this country is supposed to be about, instead, we give people excuses to fail. "o but shes a single mother, she deserves a little extra money" no, she doesn't. she doesn't deserve shit because she made an irresponsible choice to have a kid, and she needs to deal with the consequences, if we give hand outs to all single mothers then why the fuck would they have any incentive to be responsible and not get knocked up every time they are drunk
JMS13579 1 year ago
if you losers in America living on welfare would look around the world, you would see that you don't have it bad at all in this country, no matter who you are. Not to mention most of the people in this country who are on welfare made the choice at some point in their life to go that route: whether it was having unprotected sex or whatever, its your fucking responsibility to deal with your actions, not the nations to make up for the mistakes you made in the past by giving you money for no reason
JMS13579 1 year ago
either pick one or the other: welfare benefits or minimum wage. how would you like to be a businessman in america. you pay higher costs for labor than anywhere else in the world, then you have a higher % of your income taken than anyone else in the nation, so you can pay for people who don't work or contribute anything to the economy whatsoever. its amazing businesses still come to this country at all, they are all leaving for china because its so hard to cut you fucking moochers off.
JMS13579 1 year ago
Japan owned us in cheap labor. There is no reason that Japanese products should have ever became superior to american products besides the simple fact that we are forced to pay our unskilled workers a much higher minimum wage. japan realized its idiotic to have both A HIGH MINIMUM WAGE AND WELFARE BENEFITS, in fact its retarded from an economic stand point, you are literally asking for other countries to out compete you when you do that., and you make it incredibly easy for them to do so.
JMS13579 1 year ago
so strange that after world war 2, while Eisenhower was president, our economy grew faster than any economy in the history of the world. Once the 60s came around and welfare got greatly expanded, our country started to lose our competitive edge vs pathetic countries that are basically our colonies, like japan. Its obvious what the cause of this is: leeches that are ruining our free market system entirely. Leeches that demand high wages for unskilled labor. leeches THAT GET PAID NOT TO WORK.
JMS13579 1 year ago
the obvious fact, is that leeches like you are ruining this country, social security and welfare is the second biggest cost behind the military (most people in this country are quite happy we have the most secure nation in the world). While most people are pissed that our second biggest cost is paying for moochers.
we run government deficits year after year, your solution: SPEND MORE! ADD MORE WELFARE RECIPIENTS, GIVE ME MORE MONEY NOT TO WORK.
its illogical, its idiotic, IT DOESN'T WORK.
JMS13579 1 year ago
what candidate do you think is better than Art Robinson, how is he better and why? (actually try bringing up facts, instead of saying ""HE ISN'T A FOX NEWS IDIOT FOX NEWS BLAH BLAH FOX NEWS"
Why is less government spending a bad idea?
Why is the public sector of the economy making, on average, double the private sector in this economy?
predictable answer: this is from fox news. but if you can't answer, that shows even idiots like Hannity are more intelligent and politically aware than you.
JMS13579 1 year ago
how are we going to keep the top health care coverage in the world while covering 20 million uninsured?
how do you plan on dealing with al Qaeda if your answer to everything is CUT MILITARY SPENDING/ WITHDRAW EVERYONE. your answer is to wait again for another attack on our home soil and other nations around the world, because you don't give a fuck about anyone but yourself and your welfare check.
how is it good for a country/economy to have leeches who get paid for not working?
JMS13579 1 year ago
and somehow we got from a debate about Art Robinson, to a debate about slavery that hasn't been going on for over 150 years. sounds like this is the argument you resort to every time you have been out debated, and evidence has been shoved in your face so much that you can't even deny it, you just have to play the race card... idiots like you that vote are ruining this country. you are willingly stupid and this pleases you that you can be such a stubborn idiot
JMS13579 1 year ago
i listen to rap and hip hop more than most people on this planet. one of my old best friends was black. I have no prejudices against black people whatsoever except the fact that they are committing most of the crimes in this nation, when you ask any black person with common sense, they will tell you they are embarrassed of the way african americans acts in general.
I don't think the government should concern itself with race at all, you do, you support idiots who support affirmative action
JMS13579 1 year ago
you really don't have a fucking clue about anthropology or evolution, as you have proven you have no clue about any issue. thats what you get for not going to college
you wind up some old senile man spending all your time on youtube telling everyone who disagrees with you that THEY WORK FOR FOX NEWS. then you start insulting them as if your insults carried any weight.
why are you still talking about black people? its your only argument, play the race card, i told you 10 times i'm not a racist
JMS13579 1 year ago
And we are done for the night Tool. Maybe if I get time after my grandson goes to sleep tomorrow, while I baby sit him I might give you more of my time educating you about how much of a delusional intellectual coward you are.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans Or maybe what is really hard is admitting to yourself, grandkids, kids and your parents that you just couldn't be a real american who could make it on their own, and you had to resort to being a lowlife supporting every candidate for public hand outs and trying to demonize every candidate that opposes them and then claim they WORK FOR FOX NEWS!
yea go to bed, you need the rest you idiot. i bet your brain is exhausted from thinking up idiotic stubborn talking points.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@dirtclans you are the stupidest old person i have witnessed in my entire life. you must be going senile.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 You're done. Go back to making movies and being a legend in your own mind. As far as old goes, like I said before, I have been laborer all my life. I could work circles around you through 90 degree heat or all day in the cold rain working in the woods. I am your superior both physically and intellectually. But then again, that is nothing to brag about now is it?
Good night.
dirtclans 1 year ago
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JMS13579 1 year ago
@dirtclans If you need history lessons i charge 100 dollars a class.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@dirtclans let me talk to your grandkids, i can tell them how their grandpa is a lowlife who lives off of other people, and then tries to demonize the very people that are helping his worthless ass because he is so ashamed of himself. Or i could tell them about how in the past 2 hours an old man wasn't able to out debate somone much younger, and had to resort to the pathetic typical liberal arguments of:
1. YOU ARE A RACIST
2. YOU WORK FOR FOX NEWS
3. YOU ARE UNEDUCATED-thats 2 degrees gramps
JMS13579 1 year ago
There's about 300 million people in the USA. This nation was built by all of us and all of our parents and grandparents. We all broke our backs building from the days of the Mayflower to this day. A tiny class of the richest of the rich have been able to ascend from our society with the wealth to change the rules, the laws that helped regulate a free market to keep it free. They now own all of our media. They own our politicians. They want it all. You work for them. You are a sycophant.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans Yea i heard you man, you are a delusional marxist heres the thing. If you didn't want to work for Andrew Carnegie, you didn't have to. Thats what makes him EARN his money, you had the CHOICE to work for him or not. just cus one person is fat and anothers skinny doesn't mean that the fat person was exploiting the skinny person, thats fucking idiotic. he built a scheme and idea that gave him profits, you have the same opportunity but you are too fucking stupid to acomplish anything
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 A Marxist? Where have we heard that before? Oh yea, Sean Hannity, Bill O'lielly, Rush Limbaugh, and the rest of the media whores on Fox News.
Working for Carnegie? The question is should the rich own both the government and the entire media of the nation? Did you realize that tradition in the USA has always been to make it against the law to own both the local newspaper and the local radio or TV station. Regan and Clinton cleared those laws. That spelled the end to a free press.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans Nope i read the communist manifesto. Have you? nope. still stuck on fox news huh? every time you say that it is basically just confirming to me that you have no real argument and are just showing childish frustration. saying "NO YOU ARE A DORK" over and over isn't intelligent, sorry to break it to you.
The great thing about America: you can become rich too (if you weren't a low life). and you can control the government in the same way you THINK rich people do now. first ammendment
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 If working class people could control the government we would not have Art Robinson needing to be financed by his hedge fund masters. The American political process is owned by a tiny class of billionaires who own/control the American media and our politicians. You support this. You sycophantically undercut your own standard of living the same way poor dirt farming Confederate soldiers died so a tiny number of rich plantation owners could remain rich through slavery. You are anti USA.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans I am anti USA because i dont think "the working class people could(should) control the govt" hahahahaha. that is literally, word for word, the DEFINITION of communism/marxism. Its simple, they earned the money. Just because you don't think they deserve it doesn't mean they didn't earn it.
Should we start taxing all movie starts 99% income tax because 'they don't deserve it' no, its their right to the money they made and they can do whatever the fuck they want, they don't owe u shit.
JMS13579 1 year ago
@JMS13579 No that is not the word for Communism. It is the word for Democracy. You don't think that a Constitutionally guided majority should rule? Then you support an oligarchy, which is exactly what Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and Sara Palin sycophantically work towards. You are a tool. You hate to see yourself as a such. But that is what you are - a sap, a sucker who played through his fears. Cowardice and ignorance is your guide in your thinking. You are a pathetic tool.
dirtclans 1 year ago
@dirtclans production controlled through state means ruled by the proletariat (or roughly, working class) =communism.
history 101. take it sometime.
EVERY citizen is aloud one vote, that is far from an oligarchy you clueless idiot.
every one of your comments is 1 badly supported point that i show is idiotic, followed by tons of random insults.
when are you going to give up you pathetic senile idiot, i know its hard to admit someone much younger than you is smarter and better informed
JMS13579 1 year ago