he word "auctoritas" - whose opinion is considered an authority. You write as if you we need to listen to you. The bible is not given to you to interpret on your own. Remember this that the Scriptures is given to the Church - the mainstay and bedrock of truth as Paul would say to Timothy and not to any single Christian to bend as he wishes. The letters of Paul were not addressed to singular entities but addressed to the churches in Asia and Europe. What the Church says as true is binding.
@marikuda the word "auctoritas" - whose opinion is considered an authority. You write as if you we need to listen to you. The bible is not given to you to interpret on your own. Remember this that the Scriptures is given to the Church - the mainstay and bedrock of truth as Paul would say to Timothy and not to any single Christian to interpret. The letters of Paul were addressed to singular entities but addressed to the churches in Asia and Europe. What the Church says as true is binding.
@markiruda Your statement "... and do his will.. " is already predicating that which is not faith. Doing his will is a definition of charity. Being saved is not vocal per se and acceptance but its completion is in acts. As I have said, Jesus did not abrogate the material reality as the conduit of grace. Your statement "no need to do these things" is a personal opinion and not normative. You do not have the authority to declare that this is wrong and that is correct. All these debate comes from
The black Nazarene is not itself God per se, but through which God can communicate His healing grace. God has the absolute freedom to do anything under His power. If He chooses to do it this way, then no man can question that. We know the thing by its fruits. The question becomes this: who has the authority to interpret if this thing is God's or not? This is actually gist of the argument, not the authenticity of the procession or not.
@wellasang 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” JOHN 4:23-24
@markiruda@wellasang@markiruda that anything material has in itself an imprint of the divine, the supernatural cause. The locus of Jesus' dialogue to the constant irritation of the Pharisees and the Sadducees is Jesus' claim of being not of this world. If we appreciate the Judaic faith, then we can understand from their point of view why the teaching of Jesus is already in itself idolatrous; He is in their eyes only a creature and not YHWH.
@markiruda I understand that we need to accept the Lord in our hearts and from there we do His will to be saved. However, the content of this faith varies from one person to person, since our experience in faith is different, which also stems from our being unique in the mind of God. Jesus as the Second Person in the Trinity did not remain God as the creator separate from His creatures; He became Man - He incarnated. If we truly understand what this incarnation means, then we can understand
@wellasang 3 “You shall have no other gods before[a] me. 4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, EXODUS 20:3-5
na mi2ss ko ng sumalang sa lubid at andas i remember kapag malapit n s my lugar nmin gingwa n kng hagdan at patunga oo mahirap at delicado pero wla ng mas hi2rap pa s gingwa ng diyos para mailigtas tau... s mga hnd naniniwala s itim n nazareno subkan nyong sumalang isang beses lang at my mararamdaman kaung ka2iba laht ng sakit ko nwala shil s kanya... VIVA VIVA NAZARENO....
CATHOLICS do not "WORSHIP" MARY NOR SAINTS. we do not make them equal to God nor substitute to God nor a sort of Goddes instead of worshiping them WE VENERATE THEM
or HONOR THEM. 1.)we HOnor Mary bcos She is da mother of Jesus, the Son of God. 2.) Mary was honored by God, hu chus her as the mother of his divine Son, and sent his angel to announce this choice to her.
@TheEdumanz Kahit kaylan ay hindi pa ako nakasali jan.Nandito ako sa US for 20 yrs na.Nababahala lang ako sa mga diboto. Hindi lang yan relihiyon, but also part of freedom of expresion yan at mahirap ipagbawal.Concern lang ako sa safety nila.Kahit gaano pa sila ka relihiyo so ay hindi sila patatawarin ni kamatayan kung hindi sila magiging safety sa kanilang gawi.
@redsoil5 Kahit ilang aksidente pa ang mangyayari dito, wala yang katumbas sa daang-daang taong pinatay sa ngalan ng relihiyon, katoliko man o kristyano, islam, etc... at relihiyong katoliko din ung ginamit na rason para halos ubusin ang mga katutubo sa latin and south america, inquisition sa atin at crusada sa middle east.
@hellwitu.. pls i suggest u read the bible.. and even praying to the saints and Mary is very wrong.. Why? pede nman tayo dumirekta ky God with the help of our only mediator and that is Jesus.
sa isang discusiion sa flickr site.. entitled "NPJN: taken during the 400th anniversary of the arrival of the nazarene in the philippines at quiapo manila, 9th january" may isang paliwanag don na..
at kung sa palagay ninyu mali ang pag akay sa amin ng simbahang katolika, bakit hindi kayu kumilos ng matuwid at ng walang pag uyam sa inyung kapwa na hnde kaanib ng inyung samahan, sekta o kung anumang relihiyon.. kailangan bang magbitaw tayu ng mga salitang marahas, walang respeto para lamang makapaghikayat ng pag anib sa inyung sekta o relihiyon?
sa mga hinde kaanib ng simbahang katoliko at d nakaka intindi at nakakaunawa tungkol sa kaugnayan ng tradisyon at pananampalataya. sana'y matuto tayong rumespeto kung tunay na kayu ang matuwid at siya nang maliligtas
i agree na kasunod ang iglesia nyo sa tunay iglesia sa unang siglo at ito ang bumababoy sa mga aral ni cristo kaya kayo sumasamba sa mga imahe ngayon... magsialis kayo jan habang may oras pa....
pagkaboling...,seems its really hard for you to understand matters and simply easy for you to criticize.. As the way you think,you simply making your God stupid that His impartiality is unreasonable. I'm really sorry for you...GBU!
@pagkabolingitjud sa inyo lang bawal, ipinagbawal dahil may gustong iba na ipasamba sa inyo... hindi na si Cristo kundi si Manalo....!!!!! Ngayon sino ang sinasamba mo?
@pagkabolingitjud 403 years ikumpara mo sa 95 years... o ano pa ba ang itatalo noon.... walang nagbago... kaisa isa pa rin ang Iglesia Catolica sa may pinakamaraming deboto at kaanib na nagpapatunay lang na ITO ANG TUNYA NA IGLESIANG ITINATAG NI CRISTO... ito ang TUNAY NA IGLESIA NI CRISTO!
Respeto na lang po... I respect your OPINION guys.. Respeto na lang po...bakit namin sasambahin ang Bato???? kahit... BAto pa ang nasa Harapan namin o kahit ano pang Sculpture yan... Peo kung Sa puso at Isipan naman namin si Jeus Pa din.. Mangbatikos sana kayu kung Bato ang Nasa isip at puso namin.. e di komo't Bato ang nasa Harapan namin.. Bato n cnasamba namin... Respeto na lang po.. comment lang.. I Love You God.. sori po kung my maoofend man sa cnabi ko po.. Sori po..
alm mu po b kung san ngaoriginate ung mga imahe n gngmit ng mga catholics? romans used to bow down to their gods lyk jupiter nd mars equivalent s god ng greeks n cna zeus nd ares. nd den nung nconvert n cla as christians ndi nla maalis un pgsmba s mga imahe kea gumawa pdn cla but nstead cna Mary n nd c Jesus..
Romans 1:22,23 " Although they claimed to be wise, they exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles."
2 Kings 18:4, He removed the high places, smashed the sacred stones and cut down the Asherah poles, He broke into pieces the bronze snake Moses had made, for at that time the Islaelites had been burning incense to it. ( It was called Nehustan.)
Kun literal nting ttanggapin ang EX 20:3-5 mssabing ipinagbabawal ng Dios ang lahat ng uri ng sining at arkitektura s mundo.Lhat ng sining ay kalarawan at kawangis ng SASINUKOB. Ang 22o,ipinagbbawal ng Dios ang mga huwad na dios-diosan na mkikita noon s paganong kulturang iyon na s knila ay yun ang 2nay na dios. Subalit hindi ipinagbbawal ng Dios na gmitin ang mga estatwa s mg lugar ng smbahan na nkktulong s mga tao na madama ang presensya ng 2nay na Dios,2lad ng cncsabi s Biblya.
binasa mu po b mabuti ung exodus 20:3-5? tama po n ngapagawa xa na cherubim s ark of the covenant ska ung 2ngkol s ahas s story ni Moses n nagpgaling ng mga tao pro dba wla nman cnbi ang Diyos n luhuran nyu ung mga un? God is a spirit so we must worship Him in spirit and in truth.
@rolly808 Exodus 20:5, "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;"
@rolly808 Leviticus 26:1, "Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God."
@rolly808 Exodus 20:4, "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:"
@rolly808 ano p ba kailangan mo malaman rolly para magising ka.God bless nlng.nawa magising ka bago p mahuli ang lahat.wag mo sabihin nobody warned you.
Exodus 20: 4-5 "Thou shalt not make unto thee ANY GRAVEN IMAGE OR ANY LIKENESS OF ANYTHING THAT IS IN HEAVEN ABOVE OR THAT IS IN THE EARTH BENEATH, OR THAT IS IN THE WATER UNDER THE EARTH; thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them;for I the Lord thy GOD am a jealous GOD, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;"
Ako ang nag set ng mga kwitis sa fiesta ng nazareno.suportahan sana ako ng mga konsehal ng 3rd district of manila taon taon sa pagpapa fireworks sa fiesta ng quiapo at binondo, pagpalain nawa tayo ng Mahal na Poon Hesus Nazareno.Ralph C. Soriano binondo manila.maraming salamat po.
Ako ang nag set ng mga kwitis sa fiesta ng nazareno.suportahan sana ako ng mga konsehal ng 3rd district of manila taon taon sa pagpapa fireworks sa fiesta ng quiapo at binondo, pagpalain nawa tayo ng Mahal na Poon Hesus Nazareno.Ralph C. Soriano binondo manila.maraming salamat po.
Ako ang nag set ng mga kwitis sa fiesta ng nazareno.suportahan sana ako ng mga konsehal ng 3rd district of manila taon taon sa pagpapa fireworks sa fiesta ng quiapo at binondo, pagpalain nawa tayo ng Mahal na Poon Hesus Nazareno.Ralph C. Soriano binondo manila.maraming salamat po.
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Ako ang nag set ng mga kwitis sa fiesta ng nazareno.suportahan sana ako ng mga konsehal ng 3rd district of manila taon taon sa pagpapa fireworks sa fiesta ng quiapo at binondo, pagpalain nawa tayo ng Mahal na Poon Hesus Nazareno.Ralph C. Soriano binondo manila.maraming salamat po.
Ako ang nag set ng mga kwitis sa fiesta ng nazareno.suportahan sana ako ng mga konsehal ng 3rd district of manila taon taon sa pagpapa fireworks sa fiesta ng quiapo at binondo, pagpalain nawa tayo ng Mahal na Poon Hesus Nazareno.Ralph C. Soriano binondo manila.maraming salamat po.
Ako ang nag set ng mga kwitis sa fiesta ng nazareno.suportahan sana ako ng mga konsehal ng 3rd district of manila taon taon sa pagpapa fireworks sa fiesta ng quiapo at binondo.Ralph C. Soriano binondo manila.maraming salamat po.
Ako ang nag set ng mga kwitis sa fiesta ng nazareno.suportahan sana ako ng mga konsehal ng 3rd district of manila taon taon sa pagpapa fireworks sa fiesta ng quiapo at binondo.Ralph C. Soriano binondo manila.maraming salamat po.
Ako ang nag set ng mga kwitis sa fiesta ng nazareno.suportahan sana ako ng mga konsehal ng 3rd district of manila taon taon sa pagpapa fireworks sa fiesta ng quiapo at binondo.Ralph C. Soriano binondo manila.maraming salamat po.
to ogi...Re God wants imageless...(Jn4:22-23). It was spoken here of God the Father,his Spirit. Yes,God d Father is spirit that's why in C.Churches there's no images or statues of God d Father. But since d Word became Flesh(Jn 1:1-18;Phil 2:5-8;1 Tim 3:16) Christ's body was finite.Therefore,d human face of Jesus can b portrayed as d Church recognized its represenations in holy images to b legitimate.(cf. Gal 3:1).
tama naging tao nga Sya.. pero naintndhan mu b mbuti ung Gal 3:1? nd come to think of it after Jesus' death, wla nman tau nbasa n ngpagawa ng mga imahe cna paul, peter, nd d rest of d apostles, ryt??? do u knw y?? bcoz its idolatry!
@TheEdumanz ... Its the will Of God my friend...Hindi mangyayari na milyong tao ang dadagsa sa Quiapo upang ipahayag sa buong mundo na Mahal nila si Jesus attaos pusong magpasalamat na sila ay buhay pa at patuloy na nananalig sa Kanya...Mabuhay ang Nazareno..Mabuhay ang PIlipino !!!!
yep.. just wat lyk d bible says.. ....... many will be decieved.. even your priest warns u about too much attention to a statue, is it not?? your priest said that the statue is just a decoration of your church.. why wud celebrate and even give too much adoration to a decoration? you all worship a statue made only b a mortal man? God cannot be represented by anything in this world because He is He..
God created the Earth and its people...80% of earths inhabitants right now are Catholic.Would you say that God will allow His creatures to be deceived..God is so powerful to deter those unrighteousness..That millions of people flocking there just proves that Jesus Christ exist in many ways and not just in the Bible...He exist in the people and people empowers ..... Have Faith my dear friend !!!!
@kobejep.. infact God is doing everything to save His people but sadly some of us are blinded by human traditions.. rememder the great flood?? how many were saved? only the household of Noah isnt it? God will not hesitate to wipe out all those who were so stubborn to listen to His word. your faith is so strong and genuine but you are so blinded my friend..
@hellwitu.. if rolly808 based his answer in the bible alone i will not argue.. and he also said that the bible is incomplete? did he also mean that God's word is incomplete? i will ask you a very simple question.. how sure are you that the images you are bowing down is the exact face of Jesus? what was your basis? if it was the bible then you win my friend.
to ogi... U used a wrong phrase "Believing Christ doesn't...."D word Christian in Webster dic means,one hu believes in Christ. In verses James 2:19-20 d devil believes there's really one God, but not indicating he believes to Jesus Christ as God. So u missed d point. (Devils do really believes in God,n as d ONLY creator of all things,bcos Lucifer,d fallen angel, ws also made by God)
Believing in Christ does not automatically make somebody a Christian....The demons believe in Christ too ( James 2:19-20) .... God wants imageless worship ( John 4 :22-23)
how do yo share the gospel if u cant answer the biblical attacks made by prtestants. i recommend u read ARALING PAMBIBLIA PARA SA MGA DINEDEBATENG KATOLIKO by nonoy lopez so that you wont appear like idiots when it comes to answering common questions raised by biblicists.
(continuation from below) We see d woman to b Mary n d offspring to b Jesus,d MESSIAH.D disobedience of Eve brought ruin to mankind,D OBEDIENCE OF MARY BROUGHT SALVATION! "For d Lord hath created a new thing upon d earth:A WOMAN SHALL COMPASS A MAN" (Jer 31:22). TRULY,MARY IS THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN!
FULL OF GRACE,name gven by God thru Gabriel(Luke 1:26-38)denotes Mary as IMMACULATE-perfectly clean;MIRRIAM,name gven by her parents,which in Heb means PRINCESS,signifies dt Mary wud bcome D QUEEN OF HEAVEN."I'l put enmity bet u n d woman..."Gen 3:15. It's 1 of d proofs for d Immaculate Conception of Mary,bcos it says dt der's enmity bet d woman n d serpent,namely,bet Mary n sin.Mary is d macula(latin) meaning sinless,as she ws conceived w/o original sin n remained sinless d whole life.
A great sign appeared in d sky,a woman clothed wit d sun...Rev 12:1-4.Being d Mother of Jesus,Mary is venerated as QUEEN OF HEAVEN.Mary is crowned wit 12 stars,rpresenting d 12 tribes of Israel n 12 Apostles,bcos she's d Mother of d Church.She's clothed wit d sun,signifying d Holy Spirit,bcos she's d Full of Grace. D moon under her feet,symbolizng d firmament,indicates dt she's d QUEEN OF HEAVEN.D pains of birth rpresent tribulations dt Mary n all Christians ought to endure for d love of Christ.
C Church never considered images/relics as god!They dsn't teach they'r miraculous n dsn't stop such dvotion even many of dem r spurious. It merly says they'r often d occasion of God's miracles. Honor/vneration is paid to Mary/saints,so as to objects connected wit dem...as d cross to Christ;n God hs often seen fit to reward ds dvotion as Bible attest:Mat14:34-36;Luke 8:43-48;Acts 19:11-12.
Sa paglalakad ko may nakasalubong ako nagtanong MAHIRAP BANG SUMALANG? matagal bago ko nakasagot ng OO. Tapos nag abot sya ng boteng may lamang konting tubig. Hindi ko alam kung nakapagpasalamat pa ako sa kanya. Pero natuwa ako sapagkat tingin ko mabuti syang tao. gusto ko sanang magpasalamat. Ewan ko kung makikita ko pa sya o matatandaan kung sakali mang magkita ulit kami.
Sa mga bumabatikos. opinion nyo yan.
Thanks for those comment malay nyo makatulong nga ang mga panglilibak nyo.
the filipinos are realy devoted and faithful.. no other nation do this thing, even italy and spain who taught the country the doctrine of catholism. but, why we're still poor ? i think we are practicing a wrong faith.
idolatry.wicked.
Julst2021 4 months ago
idols
robten78 5 months ago
he word "auctoritas" - whose opinion is considered an authority. You write as if you we need to listen to you. The bible is not given to you to interpret on your own. Remember this that the Scriptures is given to the Church - the mainstay and bedrock of truth as Paul would say to Timothy and not to any single Christian to bend as he wishes. The letters of Paul were not addressed to singular entities but addressed to the churches in Asia and Europe. What the Church says as true is binding.
wellasang 10 months ago
@marikuda the word "auctoritas" - whose opinion is considered an authority. You write as if you we need to listen to you. The bible is not given to you to interpret on your own. Remember this that the Scriptures is given to the Church - the mainstay and bedrock of truth as Paul would say to Timothy and not to any single Christian to interpret. The letters of Paul were addressed to singular entities but addressed to the churches in Asia and Europe. What the Church says as true is binding.
wellasang 10 months ago
@markiruda Your statement "... and do his will.. " is already predicating that which is not faith. Doing his will is a definition of charity. Being saved is not vocal per se and acceptance but its completion is in acts. As I have said, Jesus did not abrogate the material reality as the conduit of grace. Your statement "no need to do these things" is a personal opinion and not normative. You do not have the authority to declare that this is wrong and that is correct. All these debate comes from
wellasang 10 months ago
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Plams 97:7 All who worship images are put to shame, those who boast in idols...
Jesus said, " I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,
but by me." (Jesus) John 14:6
therainbowchild777 11 months ago
The black Nazarene is not itself God per se, but through which God can communicate His healing grace. God has the absolute freedom to do anything under His power. If He chooses to do it this way, then no man can question that. We know the thing by its fruits. The question becomes this: who has the authority to interpret if this thing is God's or not? This is actually gist of the argument, not the authenticity of the procession or not.
wellasang 1 year ago
@wellasang 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” JOHN 4:23-24
markiruda 1 year ago
@markiruda @wellasang @markiruda that anything material has in itself an imprint of the divine, the supernatural cause. The locus of Jesus' dialogue to the constant irritation of the Pharisees and the Sadducees is Jesus' claim of being not of this world. If we appreciate the Judaic faith, then we can understand from their point of view why the teaching of Jesus is already in itself idolatrous; He is in their eyes only a creature and not YHWH.
wellasang 1 year ago
if you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour with all your heart and do his will.. you will be SAVED! no need to do these things..
markiruda 1 year ago
@markiruda I understand that we need to accept the Lord in our hearts and from there we do His will to be saved. However, the content of this faith varies from one person to person, since our experience in faith is different, which also stems from our being unique in the mind of God. Jesus as the Second Person in the Trinity did not remain God as the creator separate from His creatures; He became Man - He incarnated. If we truly understand what this incarnation means, then we can understand
wellasang 1 year ago
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@wellasang 3 “You shall have no other gods before[a] me. 4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, EXODUS 20:3-5
markiruda 1 year ago
na mi2ss ko ng sumalang sa lubid at andas i remember kapag malapit n s my lugar nmin gingwa n kng hagdan at patunga oo mahirap at delicado pero wla ng mas hi2rap pa s gingwa ng diyos para mailigtas tau... s mga hnd naniniwala s itim n nazareno subkan nyong sumalang isang beses lang at my mararamdaman kaung ka2iba laht ng sakit ko nwala shil s kanya... VIVA VIVA NAZARENO....
TheHada999 1 year ago
For those who are criticizing these people, please respect them. There's nothing wrong being pagans. That's their beliefs. Nobody's perfect.
agentofchaos1 2 years ago
@Patts138 - your words differ from what we are seeing above.. maybe you're not worshiping those
images but what about the people on this video? could you easily say that they are ONLY venerating that black image? nope.. i think not..
TheEdumanz 2 years ago
dapat sa 2011 feast ng Black Nazarene sumama na ang lahat ng Pari sa prusisyong ito. Tingin nyo?
ee1awards 2 years ago
para sa mga bumabatikos ke mary and saints
CATHOLICS do not "WORSHIP" MARY NOR SAINTS. we do not make them equal to God nor substitute to God nor a sort of Goddes instead of worshiping them WE VENERATE THEM
or HONOR THEM. 1.)we HOnor Mary bcos She is da mother of Jesus, the Son of God. 2.) Mary was honored by God, hu chus her as the mother of his divine Son, and sent his angel to announce this choice to her.
Pattz138 2 years ago 2
Marami pang mamamatay at masusugatan kung hindi pagiisipan ang tamang logistics sa prosisyon.
Suggestion ko ay mabuti pa kung ilagak nalang ng 1 week ang poong Nazareno sa Luneta at doon nalang pupuntahan at hahalikan ng mga Deboto.
Lahat ng hahalik ay nakapila at may mga Marshalls sa buong lingo para sa pagpapanatili ng kapayapaan at kaayusan.
Maglagay din ng mga PORTABLE TOILET at trash can sa paligid, at yung mga vendors na magtitinda ng kakanin ay nakaayos.
redsoil5 2 years ago
@redsoil5 - marami pa talagang ma3tay jan kung ndi nyu pa iti2gil yan..
TheEdumanz 2 years ago
@TheEdumanz Kahit kaylan ay hindi pa ako nakasali jan.Nandito ako sa US for 20 yrs na.Nababahala lang ako sa mga diboto. Hindi lang yan relihiyon, but also part of freedom of expresion yan at mahirap ipagbawal.Concern lang ako sa safety nila.Kahit gaano pa sila ka relihiyo so ay hindi sila patatawarin ni kamatayan kung hindi sila magiging safety sa kanilang gawi.
redsoil5 2 years ago
@redsoil5 Kahit ilang aksidente pa ang mangyayari dito, wala yang katumbas sa daang-daang taong pinatay sa ngalan ng relihiyon, katoliko man o kristyano, islam, etc... at relihiyong katoliko din ung ginamit na rason para halos ubusin ang mga katutubo sa latin and south america, inquisition sa atin at crusada sa middle east.
agentofchaos1 2 years ago
@agentofchaos1 ang KATOLIKO AY KRISTIANO at di ito mg kaiba
knightslucky 1 year ago
damn i didnt realize how HUGE this celebration was in the philippines. its breathtaking to see that amount of people.
lovelyspringweather 2 years ago
@hellwitu.. pls i suggest u read the bible.. and even praying to the saints and Mary is very wrong.. Why? pede nman tayo dumirekta ky God with the help of our only mediator and that is Jesus.
TheEdumanz 2 years ago
na may bumaril sa poon kaya may bullet mark sa mukha search nyu na lang at naron ang paliwanag ukul sa bullet mark
akuzaki0 2 years ago
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akuzaki0 2 years ago
sa isang discusiion sa flickr site.. entitled "NPJN: taken during the 400th anniversary of the arrival of the nazarene in the philippines at quiapo manila, 9th january" may isang paliwanag don na..
akuzaki0 2 years ago
anu kaya yung nakasulat sa blog na ito? The Catholic Eternal Truth: IGLESIA NI CRISTO: EXAMINED search nyu dated, SUNDAY, JULY 19, 2009
akuzaki0 2 years ago
@pagkabolingitjud... anu po ung nasa loob ng cathedral nyu?
akuzaki0 2 years ago
Mabuhay ang mga Pilipinong may magiting na debosyon at pagpapahalaga sa tradisyon at pananampalataya!
Viva! Nuestro Padre Jesus Nazareno!
akuzaki0 2 years ago
at kung sa palagay ninyu mali ang pag akay sa amin ng simbahang katolika, bakit hindi kayu kumilos ng matuwid at ng walang pag uyam sa inyung kapwa na hnde kaanib ng inyung samahan, sekta o kung anumang relihiyon.. kailangan bang magbitaw tayu ng mga salitang marahas, walang respeto para lamang makapaghikayat ng pag anib sa inyung sekta o relihiyon?
akuzaki0 2 years ago
sa mga hinde kaanib ng simbahang katoliko at d nakaka intindi at nakakaunawa tungkol sa kaugnayan ng tradisyon at pananampalataya. sana'y matuto tayong rumespeto kung tunay na kayu ang matuwid at siya nang maliligtas
akuzaki0 2 years ago
i agree na kasunod ang iglesia nyo sa tunay iglesia sa unang siglo at ito ang bumababoy sa mga aral ni cristo kaya kayo sumasamba sa mga imahe ngayon... magsialis kayo jan habang may oras pa....
pagkabolingitjud 2 years ago
pagkaboling...,seems its really hard for you to understand matters and simply easy for you to criticize.. As the way you think,you simply making your God stupid that His impartiality is unreasonable. I'm really sorry for you...GBU!
misterRR1000 2 years ago
hayy nako.. nadidimlan ang pag-iisip talaga at sumasamba sa mga imahe kahit bawal...
pagkabolingitjud 2 years ago
@pagkabolingitjud sa inyo lang bawal, ipinagbawal dahil may gustong iba na ipasamba sa inyo... hindi na si Cristo kundi si Manalo....!!!!! Ngayon sino ang sinasamba mo?
mellwell2005 2 years ago
@pagkabolingitjud 403 years ikumpara mo sa 95 years... o ano pa ba ang itatalo noon.... walang nagbago... kaisa isa pa rin ang Iglesia Catolica sa may pinakamaraming deboto at kaanib na nagpapatunay lang na ITO ANG TUNYA NA IGLESIANG ITINATAG NI CRISTO... ito ang TUNAY NA IGLESIA NI CRISTO!
mellwell2005 2 years ago
Respeto na lang po... I respect your OPINION guys.. Respeto na lang po...bakit namin sasambahin ang Bato???? kahit... BAto pa ang nasa Harapan namin o kahit ano pang Sculpture yan... Peo kung Sa puso at Isipan naman namin si Jeus Pa din.. Mangbatikos sana kayu kung Bato ang Nasa isip at puso namin.. e di komo't Bato ang nasa Harapan namin.. Bato n cnasamba namin... Respeto na lang po.. comment lang.. I Love You God.. sori po kung my maoofend man sa cnabi ko po.. Sori po..
Pattz138 2 years ago
Who cares....Katoliko ba kayo.....Malalaman lng natin kng tama o mali sa katapusan ng panahon
PRL18 2 years ago
alm mu po b kung san ngaoriginate ung mga imahe n gngmit ng mga catholics? romans used to bow down to their gods lyk jupiter nd mars equivalent s god ng greeks n cna zeus nd ares. nd den nung nconvert n cla as christians ndi nla maalis un pgsmba s mga imahe kea gumawa pdn cla but nstead cna Mary n nd c Jesus..
TheEdumanz 2 years ago
Romans 1:22,23 " Although they claimed to be wise, they exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles."
ogiatnas 2 years ago
2 Kings 18:4, He removed the high places, smashed the sacred stones and cut down the Asherah poles, He broke into pieces the bronze snake Moses had made, for at that time the Islaelites had been burning incense to it. ( It was called Nehustan.)
ogiatnas 2 years ago
Kun literal nting ttanggapin ang EX 20:3-5 mssabing ipinagbabawal ng Dios ang lahat ng uri ng sining at arkitektura s mundo.Lhat ng sining ay kalarawan at kawangis ng SASINUKOB. Ang 22o,ipinagbbawal ng Dios ang mga huwad na dios-diosan na mkikita noon s paganong kulturang iyon na s knila ay yun ang 2nay na dios. Subalit hindi ipinagbbawal ng Dios na gmitin ang mga estatwa s mg lugar ng smbahan na nkktulong s mga tao na madama ang presensya ng 2nay na Dios,2lad ng cncsabi s Biblya.
rolly808 2 years ago 7
binasa mu po b mabuti ung exodus 20:3-5? tama po n ngapagawa xa na cherubim s ark of the covenant ska ung 2ngkol s ahas s story ni Moses n nagpgaling ng mga tao pro dba wla nman cnbi ang Diyos n luhuran nyu ung mga un? God is a spirit so we must worship Him in spirit and in truth.
TheEdumanz 2 years ago
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@rolly808 Deuteronomy 29:17, "And ye have seen their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which were among them:)
Julst2021 4 months ago
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@rolly808 Exodus 20:5, "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;"
Julst2021 4 months ago
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@rolly808 Leviticus 26:1, "Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God."
Julst2021 4 months ago
@rolly808 Exodus 20:4, "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:"
Julst2021 4 months ago
@rolly808 Romans 1:25
25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
Julst2021 4 months ago
@rolly808 ano p ba kailangan mo malaman rolly para magising ka.God bless nlng.nawa magising ka bago p mahuli ang lahat.wag mo sabihin nobody warned you.
Julst2021 4 months ago
@rolly808 ano?u'r lost.read your bible.get to know God.this is an abomination.HE hates it.
Julst2021 2 months ago
Exodus 20: 4-5 "Thou shalt not make unto thee ANY GRAVEN IMAGE OR ANY LIKENESS OF ANYTHING THAT IS IN HEAVEN ABOVE OR THAT IS IN THE EARTH BENEATH, OR THAT IS IN THE WATER UNDER THE EARTH; thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them;for I the Lord thy GOD am a jealous GOD, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;"
ogiatnas 2 years ago
ang mga imahe ng mga diyus-diyosan ang siyang pinagbawal ng Diyos.
MALINAW na MALINAW yun!
Kung tutuusin nagpagawa ang Diyos ng Kerubin (Exo.) na may imahe para ipadama ng Diyos na tunay siyang buhay.
Ginamit din ng Diyos ang imahe ng isang ahas upang kung sinuman ang tumingin doon ay gagaling!
Ang Bawal ay imahe ng diyos-diyosan.
Sa amin bang katoliko ay diyos-diyosan yun???
Viva Itim na Nazareno. (Ako'y Maitim, ngunit kahalina halina!, Songs 1:5)
MrJbo20 2 years ago 3
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Ako ang nag set ng mga kwitis sa fiesta ng nazareno.suportahan sana ako ng mga konsehal ng 3rd district of manila taon taon sa pagpapa fireworks sa fiesta ng quiapo at binondo, pagpalain nawa tayo ng Mahal na Poon Hesus Nazareno.Ralph C. Soriano binondo manila.maraming salamat po.
uh69blackass69uh 2 years ago
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Ako ang nag set ng mga kwitis sa fiesta ng nazareno.suportahan sana ako ng mga konsehal ng 3rd district of manila taon taon sa pagpapa fireworks sa fiesta ng quiapo at binondo, pagpalain nawa tayo ng Mahal na Poon Hesus Nazareno.Ralph C. Soriano binondo manila.maraming salamat po.
uh69blackass69uh 2 years ago
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Ako ang nag set ng mga kwitis sa fiesta ng nazareno.suportahan sana ako ng mga konsehal ng 3rd district of manila taon taon sa pagpapa fireworks sa fiesta ng quiapo at binondo, pagpalain nawa tayo ng Mahal na Poon Hesus Nazareno.Ralph C. Soriano binondo manila.maraming salamat po.
uh69blackass69uh 2 years ago
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Ako ang nag set ng mga kwitis sa fiesta ng nazareno.suportahan sana ako ng mga konsehal ng 3rd district of manila taon taon sa pagpapa fireworks sa fiesta ng quiapo at binondo, pagpalain nawa tayo ng Mahal na Poon Hesus Nazareno.Ralph C. Soriano binondo manila.maraming salamat po.
uh69blackass69uh 2 years ago
Ako ang nag set ng mga kwitis sa fiesta ng nazareno.suportahan sana ako ng mga konsehal ng 3rd district of manila taon taon sa pagpapa fireworks sa fiesta ng quiapo at binondo, pagpalain nawa tayo ng Mahal na Poon Hesus Nazareno.Ralph C. Soriano binondo manila.maraming salamat po.
ralphbosero 2 years ago 3
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Ako ang nag set ng mga kwitis sa fiesta ng nazareno.suportahan sana ako ng mga konsehal ng 3rd district of manila taon taon sa pagpapa fireworks sa fiesta ng quiapo at binondo.Ralph C. Soriano binondo manila.maraming salamat po.
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Ako ang nag set ng mga kwitis sa fiesta ng nazareno.suportahan sana ako ng mga konsehal ng 3rd district of manila taon taon sa pagpapa fireworks sa fiesta ng quiapo at binondo.Ralph C. Soriano binondo manila.maraming salamat po.
ralphbosero 2 years ago
Ako ang nag set ng mga kwitis sa fiesta ng nazareno.suportahan sana ako ng mga konsehal ng 3rd district of manila taon taon sa pagpapa fireworks sa fiesta ng quiapo at binondo.Ralph C. Soriano binondo manila.maraming salamat po.
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rolly808 2 years ago
to ogi...Re God wants imageless...(Jn4:22-23). It was spoken here of God the Father,his Spirit. Yes,God d Father is spirit that's why in C.Churches there's no images or statues of God d Father. But since d Word became Flesh(Jn 1:1-18;Phil 2:5-8;1 Tim 3:16) Christ's body was finite.Therefore,d human face of Jesus can b portrayed as d Church recognized its represenations in holy images to b legitimate.(cf. Gal 3:1).
rolly808 2 years ago 4
tama naging tao nga Sya.. pero naintndhan mu b mbuti ung Gal 3:1? nd come to think of it after Jesus' death, wla nman tau nbasa n ngpagawa ng mga imahe cna paul, peter, nd d rest of d apostles, ryt??? do u knw y?? bcoz its idolatry!
TheEdumanz 2 years ago
@TheEdumanz ... Its the will Of God my friend...Hindi mangyayari na milyong tao ang dadagsa sa Quiapo upang ipahayag sa buong mundo na Mahal nila si Jesus attaos pusong magpasalamat na sila ay buhay pa at patuloy na nananalig sa Kanya...Mabuhay ang Nazareno..Mabuhay ang PIlipino !!!!
kobejep 2 years ago
yep.. just wat lyk d bible says.. ....... many will be decieved.. even your priest warns u about too much attention to a statue, is it not?? your priest said that the statue is just a decoration of your church.. why wud celebrate and even give too much adoration to a decoration? you all worship a statue made only b a mortal man? God cannot be represented by anything in this world because He is He..
TheEdumanz 2 years ago
God created the Earth and its people...80% of earths inhabitants right now are Catholic.Would you say that God will allow His creatures to be deceived..God is so powerful to deter those unrighteousness..That millions of people flocking there just proves that Jesus Christ exist in many ways and not just in the Bible...He exist in the people and people empowers ..... Have Faith my dear friend !!!!
kobejep 2 years ago
@kobejep.. infact God is doing everything to save His people but sadly some of us are blinded by human traditions.. rememder the great flood?? how many were saved? only the household of Noah isnt it? God will not hesitate to wipe out all those who were so stubborn to listen to His word. your faith is so strong and genuine but you are so blinded my friend..
TheEdumanz 2 years ago
@hellwitu.. if rolly808 based his answer in the bible alone i will not argue.. and he also said that the bible is incomplete? did he also mean that God's word is incomplete? i will ask you a very simple question.. how sure are you that the images you are bowing down is the exact face of Jesus? what was your basis? if it was the bible then you win my friend.
TheEdumanz 2 years ago
to ogi... U used a wrong phrase "Believing Christ doesn't...."D word Christian in Webster dic means,one hu believes in Christ. In verses James 2:19-20 d devil believes there's really one God, but not indicating he believes to Jesus Christ as God. So u missed d point. (Devils do really believes in God,n as d ONLY creator of all things,bcos Lucifer,d fallen angel, ws also made by God)
rolly808 2 years ago 3
Believing in Christ does not automatically make somebody a Christian....The demons believe in Christ too ( James 2:19-20) .... God wants imageless worship ( John 4 :22-23)
ogiatnas 3 years ago
I just hope you're not blind, why you can't see and understand what's ALL indicated below... Peace.
rolly808 3 years ago 2
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rolly808 3 years ago
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how do yo share the gospel if u cant answer the biblical attacks made by prtestants. i recommend u read ARALING PAMBIBLIA PARA SA MGA DINEDEBATENG KATOLIKO by nonoy lopez so that you wont appear like idiots when it comes to answering common questions raised by biblicists.
tikbalang65 3 years ago
A FOOL doesn't care whether he understands and learned a thing or not; all he wants to do is show how smart he is. PROVERBS 18:2
rolly808 3 years ago 2
(continuation from below) We see d woman to b Mary n d offspring to b Jesus,d MESSIAH.D disobedience of Eve brought ruin to mankind,D OBEDIENCE OF MARY BROUGHT SALVATION! "For d Lord hath created a new thing upon d earth:A WOMAN SHALL COMPASS A MAN" (Jer 31:22). TRULY,MARY IS THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN!
rolly808 3 years ago 4
FULL OF GRACE,name gven by God thru Gabriel(Luke 1:26-38)denotes Mary as IMMACULATE-perfectly clean;MIRRIAM,name gven by her parents,which in Heb means PRINCESS,signifies dt Mary wud bcome D QUEEN OF HEAVEN."I'l put enmity bet u n d woman..."Gen 3:15. It's 1 of d proofs for d Immaculate Conception of Mary,bcos it says dt der's enmity bet d woman n d serpent,namely,bet Mary n sin.Mary is d macula(latin) meaning sinless,as she ws conceived w/o original sin n remained sinless d whole life.
rolly808 3 years ago 4
A great sign appeared in d sky,a woman clothed wit d sun...Rev 12:1-4.Being d Mother of Jesus,Mary is venerated as QUEEN OF HEAVEN.Mary is crowned wit 12 stars,rpresenting d 12 tribes of Israel n 12 Apostles,bcos she's d Mother of d Church.She's clothed wit d sun,signifying d Holy Spirit,bcos she's d Full of Grace. D moon under her feet,symbolizng d firmament,indicates dt she's d QUEEN OF HEAVEN.D pains of birth rpresent tribulations dt Mary n all Christians ought to endure for d love of Christ.
rolly808 3 years ago 4
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Catholics compared to Greeks and Romans who worshipped gods and goddesses and even Babylonians....
There's no such thing as Queen of Heaven. Those guys are sickos!
JBR 3 years ago
C Church never considered images/relics as god!They dsn't teach they'r miraculous n dsn't stop such dvotion even many of dem r spurious. It merly says they'r often d occasion of God's miracles. Honor/vneration is paid to Mary/saints,so as to objects connected wit dem...as d cross to Christ;n God hs often seen fit to reward ds dvotion as Bible attest:Mat14:34-36;Luke 8:43-48;Acts 19:11-12.
rolly808 3 years ago 3
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rolly808 3 years ago
Sa paglalakad ko may nakasalubong ako nagtanong MAHIRAP BANG SUMALANG? matagal bago ko nakasagot ng OO. Tapos nag abot sya ng boteng may lamang konting tubig. Hindi ko alam kung nakapagpasalamat pa ako sa kanya. Pero natuwa ako sapagkat tingin ko mabuti syang tao. gusto ko sanang magpasalamat. Ewan ko kung makikita ko pa sya o matatandaan kung sakali mang magkita ulit kami.
Sa mga bumabatikos. opinion nyo yan.
Thanks for those comment malay nyo makatulong nga ang mga panglilibak nyo.
Redengalvez 3 years ago 3
just wanna ask eckoviscon if TVpatrol authorized this copy. how do we get permission from abs-cbn to copy their tv/news videos?
victorbenedicto 3 years ago
the filipinos are realy devoted and faithful.. no other nation do this thing, even italy and spain who taught the country the doctrine of catholism. but, why we're still poor ? i think we are practicing a wrong faith.
jonbal2001 3 years ago
@jonbal2001 so GOD means money to you..gudluck with that...
mayla12 2 months ago
Esto si que es fe...
kazooie1404 3 years ago