I don't know what it is like in your country but, in Canada men make up the vast majority of the homeless and are not hired in many of the employment sectors. In addition, they are treated unequally in the legal and social support systems. Men also suffer domestic abuse but, little to no ads depict it. In Canada there are many groups, organizations, agencies for support of men in all facets of life, they even have a whole federal department, the "status of women", men nothing.
OK How many men are abused by women, how many men, after a divorce get reduced to " livin' like a dog" and thats after the woman causes it. Folks, this domestic violence thing is a front, the people who run it and I am not talking about these well meaning, but deluded volunteers. I am talking a those who orchestrated this fraud, and no they are not interested in protecting anyone, they are running an agenda. I don't know what that agenda is but it aint good.
40% of homeless women represent 40% of 1% of the total homeless population. 99% of the homeless in America are men. Most shelters only accept women. Women can get help from society and get another chance. Men don't have the same options women have. This video just feeds misconceptions and progresses stereotypes.
This video is just playing on common misconceptions about the oppression of women.
Yo show women some respect if men knew how to treat them right the world wouldnt be so messed up men are the reason women dont trust good men anymore Im suffering because of what other men do now women dont trust the good men because of the idiots.
@aman4trulove The reason women don't trust men is due to the corruptive force of the feminist propaganda machine pumping out bullshit like this. 85% of domestic violence is committed against men by women. Look at the stats. Women are mad at us before we do anything and want to punish us for shit we didn't do, because stupid fucking videos like this villainize us for shit we didn't do. For every 3 abused women there are 17 men who get abused by women. Look it up if you doubt it.
trevizo84, good point. Its not WHO commits the act of violence but THAT the act of violence takes place. People are closed minded and are missing the bigger picture f their turning it into a discriminatory issue against men.
trevizo84, good point. Its not WHO commits the act of violence but THAT the act of violence takes place. People are closed minded and are missing the bigger picture f their turning it into a discriminatory issue against men.
Actually, usaandros, no its not a lie. I am a DV counselor and its all true. 1 in 3 women are victims and beleive it or not 1 in 5 men are victims of domestic violence. Don't take it personally, no one said it was you. If your feeling personally attacked maybe you need to ask yourself why. Peace.
@Anabella1974 that trick was pretty slick... accusing people of projecting and believing that it actually works... and I am a homo so I can personally give a shit if breeders want to beat each other's asses...
I have to not agree on those "statistics" however, child abuse is domestic violence and men are also less likely to report this...
most cases I have seen 3rd party are mutual cases of people who are both borderline personalities and keep going to jail and getting out and fighting again.
2 days ago I am sick of the sexist, onesided, misleading commercials that depict women only as victims and men only as abusers. This denies reality and does not help stop violence against anyone, it just builds resentment. The makers of these ads and the prime movers of the thought behind it, should be arrested and charged with hate crimes. If we are to have a "STOP THE VIOLENCE", let it reflect the truth, men and women are both victim and abusers! STOP THE SEXISM.
The fact is that women are more often victims, it is a fact, not an opinion. I'm sick of all these men commenting videos about domestic violence always saying a bunch of stupid lies. You horrible people.
@sontag21 woah u can't just blame men women are very much apart of dimestic violence as well a matter a fact women do it more then men the suspects are children women brutaliy abuse children theres even 2 shows showing it and a commercail about women using domestic violence everyone hatrs chris the mom beats chris in every episode abd theres another show that a women beats her husband when he doesn't listen to her. also a cca comercail.
@sontag21 women report domestic violence more... my mother was severely abusive... I mean I am a fag so this feminist guilt trip bullshit has nothing to do with me personally so I don't care...
I think nobody has a right to hit anyone else myself...
The HER CENTRE is a charitable organisation working for life betterment of local women affected by domestic violence who reside in the London Borough of Greenwich. For more info contact us at Forum at Greenwich, Trafalgar Road, Greenwich, SE10 9EQ, Tel 0208 858 0748
Everyone who watches this video is missing the point; domestic violence is bad either way, whether a man does it or a woman does it. It just so happens that woman are more prone to being victims of domestic violence. So thats why some men that reply to his video are angry; instead of being angry and criticizing this video, why don't you make your own video and make your voice be heard about domestic violence!
50% of domestic abuse is women abusing their partners.
Here in Canada, there are 449 shelters for abused women spread out across the 12 provences.
There is only 1 shelter in Canada for males who suffer from abuse.
And children grow up. Look at your little boy,and know that if he is ever caught in an abusive relationship,once he turns 18 there is no hope. They are alone,and not long ago were someone's child.
I'm a woman, but just out of curiosity I searched for a youtube video on domestic violence against men. I couldn't find anything. Is it just me, or is there a problem?
"Men make up more of the homeless than women and children combined" ~ Dr. Warren Farrell
Do they blame women for this? Forced child support {& no visitation inforcement}, alimony and the spiral of debt into homelessness? 80%+ of the homeless in western countries are men... feminism would blame the males... is it then not women's advantaged state which causes an injustice for males in some areas? Is that REAL equality? Only for a radical
Fuck DV victims. They wouldn't be homeless if they were self sufficient rather then dependent on men. Not to mention that the statistics in this video is complete horse shit.
This video is a big lie. This is just a bread and butter of feminists who always consider women as victim and men as perpetrator. The fact is that men and women both are equally victims of so called definition of domestic violence. However, women victims get all the sympathy and support from society and govt., there is no help available for male victims. On the other hand men are easy target of false domestic violence case. Thus, trust between two genders are widening and will lead to more DV.
Please, stay informed, the women are attacked by men in many ocassions, is called "violence of gender". Every week 1 to 2 woman are murdered by her partner. In many cultures, the women are considered an object, an animal, this is equality? I don't think so...
Im a woman & the misandry makes me sick, too. Misogyny also sucks, but its painfully obvious in media & law that misandry is the bigger issue now with sexism. Fucking feminazis bastardized true Feminism. Women have little to bitch about anymore. If only I had unlimited comment space........
I'm gonna have to disagree with you there cause it really is that easy.
Trying to protect children? You can get custody of your kids once he gets his ass in jail so no I don't see where you are coming from cause it seems like it is that easy in retrospect I mean I know it's hard, but it is a two step process
Wake up, women are being murdered, threatened or beaten everyday, satistics prove it. By the men who are supposed to protect and provide for them. Honour and protect, Hmm
maybe if these bitches werent so bitchy,defiant and disobedient then nobody would have to kill their stupid asses...think about it. EVERY ACTION HAS A REACTION!
RIGHT!! Women usually deserve it when they get their asses kicked. Its usually a case of disobedience, cheating or unladylike behavior which warrants a good ass kicking. The Holy Bible endorces corrective discipline for women, and so do I. My wife gets out of line, and I break her face, and she knows that! That's why our marriage will stand the test of time. Cause I wont let some sorry cunt ruin my life. I'd rather break her fucking face, and I've done it before!!
Domestic Violence, domestic violence is when ur girlfriend totals both your cars, steals ur money, and her other boyfriend to visits when ur away. Then when you say she has to leave, she callls the cops and has you arressted, then steals yourstuff when your in jail. No marks on her, as long as I'm alive boyfriends can beat the shit out of their girlfriends and I'll give them a medal!
No, they're not the only domestic violence victims, but they're the overwhelming majority. Domestic violence in itself is wrong, and that's what we are fighting against.
According to the US Department of Justice in survey that spanned from 1998 to 2002, 84% of spouse abuse victims were females, and 86% of victims of dating partner abuse at were female. Males were 83% of spouse murderers and 75% of dating partner murderers
It may be true that most men do not report their domestic abuse. In that case, people should work for more awareness. Instead, people just complain about the fact that shelters for battered women don't talk about battered men.
It's not the shelters people are worried about, but the man haters running them who have hijacked the issue of domestic violence for political purposes and don't care about the actual victims in the slightest.
Maybe once those associated with such shelters stop spreading their lies that men aren't victims of dv then maybe people will stop complaining about their hatred of men.
Even if you have met men-haters working in a shelter, it would be a gross generalization to subject all shelters to this image. Many organization care for battered women without pronouncing a hatred for the male sex. If an institutions only researched lung cancer, it does not mean that it thinks that breast cancer is of no importance.
Not a gross generalsiation - the shelters run by decent honest people are few and far between. To even become a member of most dv organisations you have to sign declaration agreeing with their extremist feminist mantra. Thus anyone in such organsiations wanting to tell the truth about the plight of male victims and female abusers will be in breach of the rules they agreed to and thus can be expelled.
I can't really argue with this because you're stating a belief that is neither based on fact or, I'm assuming, personal experience. You have not personally met every worker in the United States who works in a shelter, so your statement can be easily dismissed as a gross generalization. Had you met over 10,000 workers maybe then. I'm not really sure where the paranoia comes from either. If you could state maybe your personal experience with this issue, I could understand your opinion better.
So, I am left wondering why you find videos such as this one to be so offense. So, it is perhaps that only men are seen as abusers in these DM videos. Since the majority of victims are female (as statistics show) and that most abusers are male (as statistics show), it does make sense that most videos are so. I would support also DM videos featuring male victims (though even in this case the majority of abusers would still be committed by men.)
Black people commit more crime than white people - would it be appropriate to have every single criminal on tv and in government sponsored PSAs as black?
I'd say that would be incredibly dishonest and harmful not to mention racist. Domestic violence is no different. And that majority you talk about is far, far smaller than you think.
But the fact is according to statistics White people commit 32% of murders and black people 36% of murders. White people commit 58% of non-lethal crime in the US while black people commit 39%. White people commit 67% of property crime and black people commit 30% (that is a huge difference). These are all US department statistics. So, no black people do not commit the most crime, and even in the category that they do the crime rate is about the same for both black and white people.
Ummm you seem to have forgotten to take account of the fact that there are far more white people in the states than blacks, thus the amount of crime per black person is huge.
If you can't even consider such incredibly basic points when discussing statistics then there is no point having an conversation with you.
I had actually thought about the population discrepancy but only after posting. It was perhaps erroneous of me to give legitimacy even to your claim that "black people commit more crime" by arguing with it using race numbers when the fact is that race is less a correlation to crime than poverty. Looking through this lens, the issue of crime and the depiction of criminals has nothing to do with race but with poverty level.
So yes, it would be wrong to only depict all criminals as black when you should be depicting most criminals as being poor whether they are black or white. As to your parallelism to why female shelters only depict female victims, well their mission is to help female victims, so hence their victims in their movies are female. Why would a female shelter show male victims?
You can ask. Well why don't they take care of male victims as well? Well the majority of victims are female and the abuse is more apparent and numerous, so it would be more obvious for organizations to start by taking care of women. I'm not saying shelters shouldn't start taking care of men. I would advocate doing so. But many organizations start out focused on one issue only to realize that there are more facets to the problem. This, however, does not reflect man hating.
It IS man hating. Would it be right to help one race ahead of another? No, so the same goes for gender.
You yourself admitted that 30% of victims could be men - that equates to many millions of people refused help and put at risk.
We've had dv shelters since the 1970s, the fact they won't help men is nothing to do with being too busy and overstreched. They simply won't help because the existence of male victims completely destroys all the arguments the gender feminist movement is based upon.
The issue about this is more than just whether or not shelters refuse to help men. The fact is that the issue has only slowly come into awareness. You should see this as an oversight on their part not as a deliberate attempt to hate men because it borders on paranoia. if you feel so strongly about this issue, you should feel pulled to devote your time to help the cause not blaming other people for not doing it.
Actually domestic violence pioneers recognised the plight and extent of male victims at almost exactly the same time as the first shelters for women were opened (i.e. 1971). Such people who recognised the number of male victims and twanted to help them were soon expelled from the movement so it IS a clear conspiracy rather than any oversight - i suggest you read up on your history.
There are plenty of organizations that target certain demographics of people, but that doesn't make them exclusive just targeted.
For you to prove that DV shelters and the DV movement is man-hating, you would have to give evidence of direct hatred, which you haven't. You just listed theories.
As for the Christine Summers comment, I wonder why she did not call those man-hating people anti-feminists instead of their own category of feminism. Yes, man haters can call themselves feminists, but we do not have to accept them as such. There is no reason to dirty the word "feminism" by allowing them to be part of the term, because man-hating in itself is based on inequality, which is not feminism. That is my opinion.
How many feminists working for the DV movement or in shelters have you met? If your answer is such a large number, that it takes care of any statistical anomaly then I will agree with you that DV movement is only made up of man hating people (I say people not women because DV movement is run by both men and women).
Actually men are in fact barred from becoming members of some dv organisations and not allowed to work in many shelters or sit on decision making boards. S, although there are plenty of self loathing gender feminist men out there, we can actually place most of the blame on women in this instance.
While I'm not sure I buy your conspiracy theory (I don't know what women would gain by alienating half of the population) and there may be some good reasons as to why you would bar men from working in shelters (victims may be afraid of men due to their abuse), I did more research on statistics. One study stated that women were in fact more likely to be violent first in spousal conflict. This was the "FAMILY VIOLENCE. A report from: Family Resources & Research."
The statistics were appalling if true. From what they report, women seem to be equal to men in large ranges of assault and sometimes slightly surpassing. Now, that I have conflicting statistics, it is hard to know what to believe.
Well it doesn't matter what you decide to believe - the fact is there are loads of victims of both gender out there and we should be helping all of them equally. Quite frankly whether it is 50-50 or 60-40 or 40-60 .
Anyway I'm glad you read up on some statistics telling the other side of the story. As for conspiracies - read up on Erin Pizzey - the founder of the world's first domestic violence shelters and see how she was treated.
My personal experience with people involved with women's issues have been nothing but positive. There was never any male bashing involved. For me, the majority of the problem is still lack of awareness. I certainly did not know any of these statistics, and I'm sure most people do not either. In any case, I found many organizations targeted towards male victims, so there is help out there for men. To me, this isn't man-hating but misconception problems.
Yes bt the organsiaitons helping men get no government funding whatsoever, and on top of that it isn't a fashionable or well publisised charitable issue, thus they don't' get many donations either.
I am going based on the majority that I know of based on statistics. Even given standard deviation, I doubt that the percentage of female victims will go below 70%. The fact is that the issue of DV is an important issue for many women. It is as important for male victims, but the lack of awareness does not equal hate. These shelters focus on helping women not bashing men. I don't understand the mental lap between the two.
You also stated that women are more likely to "initiate violence." I have not read the study so can't comment, but would like to know the context in which the study was done.
You also said that women are more likely to abuse children, but children are most often left in the care of their mothers and not their fathers. Abusive households tend to be in unstable environments where the father might be missing. So even probability wise, this would make sense.
Well these issues are somewhat separate from dv. However the point is that if the feminists didn't always demonise men and if we had the assumption of equal parenting in the seperation cases (something feminists campaign against very strongly) then the child would get to see both parents and such abuse could be stopped far sooner.
Feminists are quiick to highlight the crimes committed by men whilst at the same time ignoring aand sweeping under the carpet simiilar things done by women.
If you're using feminist to men "women who hate men", then I think you're using the term incorrectly. Many feminists are happily married, have children, and lead unassuming lives. Again, I think this stems from a personal insult you felt at the hands of a woman who called herself a feminist. But personal experiences shouldn't be the basis of characterization of a whole group. You make many statements to which there is no factual basis. There must be more to your impressions such as facts.
Feminism pretty much became a hate movement quite some time ago. I realsie the term used to be a noble one and the definition technically means someone who believes in equality, but very few women genuinely interesed in equality would actually call themselves a feminist today due to the way the term has been taken over by man haters, there is a clear need for people to clarify what sort of feminist they are.
Chistine Hoff Summers came up with two terms too desribe the two distinct types of feminists - "equity feminists" and "gender feminists" ( the first being feminsits interested in equality, the second being the misandric man haters). I suppose I should have used the term "gender feminists" to make my point clearer, though what with the gender feminists being the the majority in the dv movement I don't think it was much of an omission.
As for the third comment about the fact that women are more likely to use weapons, this does make sense. Women do not have the strength or muscle mass to beat up a man and must resort to weapons.
In any case, none of these statistics imply that women are only "slightly in the majority" as victims.
I apologize for writing so much. It is a bit difficult to voice your thoughts with character limits.
@harrietharmman This is what I've study this past semester - no, women are not more likely to abuse children (it goes both ways for both genders), however women are more likely to use emotional/mental abuse as a source. Men are more than 3x as likely to be the aggressor with physical harm. I do agree that men are ignored when it comes to violence because again it goes both ways. But don't pull false statistics out of the air to turn what research knows right around.
@ThallesNinja Thank fully, much of my time is spent in school. To make it sound more fair, women and men are equal in aggression. HOWEVER, men show more overt techniques (smacking, punching, hitting) and women show more covert techniques (snubbing, ruining peoples social lives and the alike). That right there my uneducated friend is fact. Maybe instead of denying factual information, you should take your own advice and spend a while learning a thing or two. It'll do a little good.
@ThallesNinja I appreciate the offer - very much infact, however you should likely take care of yourself first. If you had any real sense, you'd learn the facts and stop sticking to your own biased beliefs. I'd say what I stated is not only true but fair. Women and men are both equally violent, however they display aggression by using different methods. *Always* an exception to the averages, too.
Scared to leave? Didn't want to leave to acquire victimhood status and have everybody feel sowwy for you. Homeless? have you tried getting a job? How do you fuck up your divorce so badly that you are homeless. I never see homeless women anyway. Most women stay at a friend or relative house. So what is this BS? You dropped out on welfare? You have nobody to blame but yourself. Actions have consequences.
Your handle fits you just fine because your attitude toward these victims is disturbing! Some domestic abuse victims come from abusive families, so are you going to judge them as having only themselves to blame when they try to leave and have nobody who will take them in? No--actions have consequences, but it's the abusers' choice to use violence that caused the victims' situations! Stop making such a horrible judgment--you're either for the victims or you're for the abusers but not both!
No one is for DV and if you think he is then you are sad, but the fact is it's the choice and it doesn't matter how they were raised what they do is still there fault so life may not be fare, but sometimes you have to learn to deal and get over it.
Not at all; domestic violence shelters are not only for women. Women are the primary focus in these campaigns simply because they are the overwhelming majority of domestic violence victims. It does not mean that women can't be abusive themselves, or that men can't be victims. Abuse is abuse is abuse, and abuse is terrible, regardless of whom it is targeted towards.
My father was abusive, but my friend's mother was abusive. It goes both ways, and it's equally as terrible on both sides.
Oh? What about when he calls on the LANDLINE? Or when he speaks directly to your boss, and, having a somewhat higher position than yourself, and convinces your boss that you are hopeless, rutheless, and the worst person to ever walk the earth? What happens when you're fired, but the entirely inaccurate rumors of your inadequecy have reached the ears of all employers in the state? What do you do then?
My mom's unemployed because of my dad. We have nothing, and we DID nothing wrong.
So I have a perfectly adequate worker, but then her scorned ex barges into my office ranting about how horrible she is, and now I just magically want to fire a reliable employee? Ya right. Maybe your Mom actually is a bad employee, ever consider that?
Oh, yeah. She's a terrible employee. After nearly 20 years of teaching residents and having the most glowing reports from said residents, and after countless volounteer projects, she really is a bad employee.
My father just happens to be more ambitious than my mother; whereas she's simply a teacher, he is on several boards. Therefore, his word is law.
Besides, now that my mom is looking for work outside of the immediate area, she is being snatched up eagerly by countless emplyers.
This is DV video is one-sided. It portrays the stereotype that men are the perpetrators and women are the victims. DV policies are biased against men. However, the undersigned authorities are petitioning the states to change the DV policies to include male victims and children in the DV programs.
No, people do NOT do a better jod when they work in fear! They suffer and end up doing worse and making more mistakes than when they do NOT work in fear! And do you know what happens next, you judgmental assclown? They eventually give up trying because they've been brainwashed into thinking that not even their best efforts will ever be good enough! Never become anybody's employer because it's obvious that you'd make an excruciatingly shitty one if you were!
@radavis76 hey baby...i like the cut of your jib...your a broad with lots of spunk...would you like to come and work for me?..my names grabby mcfeelatitty...all you have to do is show up in a short short skirt and pick up paper all day
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Feminist bait. This stuff is propaganda. Don't buy into it.
Tehblues 1 year ago
what about the men who go throught his fuck these women they think their the only victims and they not
gordonlove123 1 year ago
I don't know what it is like in your country but, in Canada men make up the vast majority of the homeless and are not hired in many of the employment sectors. In addition, they are treated unequally in the legal and social support systems. Men also suffer domestic abuse but, little to no ads depict it. In Canada there are many groups, organizations, agencies for support of men in all facets of life, they even have a whole federal department, the "status of women", men nothing.
GTCism 1 year ago
OK How many men are abused by women, how many men, after a divorce get reduced to " livin' like a dog" and thats after the woman causes it. Folks, this domestic violence thing is a front, the people who run it and I am not talking about these well meaning, but deluded volunteers. I am talking a those who orchestrated this fraud, and no they are not interested in protecting anyone, they are running an agenda. I don't know what that agenda is but it aint good.
unclefixer 1 year ago
100% of homeless men don't qualify for welfare.
40% of homeless women represent 40% of 1% of the total homeless population. 99% of the homeless in America are men. Most shelters only accept women. Women can get help from society and get another chance. Men don't have the same options women have. This video just feeds misconceptions and progresses stereotypes.
This video is just playing on common misconceptions about the oppression of women.
chade1983 1 year ago
shows you how women should just shut up and stay in the kitchen, since they can't get a job elsewhere...
ckmacboy 1 year ago
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quit making all the men and boys look inferior. This is why women are the inferior species....
jumbojokerjesse 1 year ago
get back in the kitchen
Tokkoking 1 year ago
Yo show women some respect if men knew how to treat them right the world wouldnt be so messed up men are the reason women dont trust good men anymore Im suffering because of what other men do now women dont trust the good men because of the idiots.
aman4trulove 1 year ago
@aman4trulove The reason women don't trust men is due to the corruptive force of the feminist propaganda machine pumping out bullshit like this. 85% of domestic violence is committed against men by women. Look at the stats. Women are mad at us before we do anything and want to punish us for shit we didn't do, because stupid fucking videos like this villainize us for shit we didn't do. For every 3 abused women there are 17 men who get abused by women. Look it up if you doubt it.
chade1983 1 year ago
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trevizo84, good point. Its not WHO commits the act of violence but THAT the act of violence takes place. People are closed minded and are missing the bigger picture f their turning it into a discriminatory issue against men.
Anabella1974 1 year ago
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trevizo84, good point. Its not WHO commits the act of violence but THAT the act of violence takes place. People are closed minded and are missing the bigger picture f their turning it into a discriminatory issue against men.
Anabella1974 1 year ago
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Anabella1974 1 year ago
Actually, usaandros, no its not a lie. I am a DV counselor and its all true. 1 in 3 women are victims and beleive it or not 1 in 5 men are victims of domestic violence. Don't take it personally, no one said it was you. If your feeling personally attacked maybe you need to ask yourself why. Peace.
Anabella1974 1 year ago
@Anabella1974 that trick was pretty slick... accusing people of projecting and believing that it actually works... and I am a homo so I can personally give a shit if breeders want to beat each other's asses...
I have to not agree on those "statistics" however, child abuse is domestic violence and men are also less likely to report this...
most cases I have seen 3rd party are mutual cases of people who are both borderline personalities and keep going to jail and getting out and fighting again.
HerrSpieldose 1 year ago
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2 days ago I am sick of the sexist, onesided, misleading commercials that depict women only as victims and men only as abusers. This denies reality and does not help stop violence against anyone, it just builds resentment. The makers of these ads and the prime movers of the thought behind it, should be arrested and charged with hate crimes. If we are to have a "STOP THE VIOLENCE", let it reflect the truth, men and women are both victim and abusers! STOP THE SEXISM.
GTCism 1 year ago
The fact is that women are more often victims, it is a fact, not an opinion. I'm sick of all these men commenting videos about domestic violence always saying a bunch of stupid lies. You horrible people.
sontag21 1 year ago
@sontag21 woah u can't just blame men women are very much apart of dimestic violence as well a matter a fact women do it more then men the suspects are children women brutaliy abuse children theres even 2 shows showing it and a commercail about women using domestic violence everyone hatrs chris the mom beats chris in every episode abd theres another show that a women beats her husband when he doesn't listen to her. also a cca comercail.
calebt1000 1 year ago
@sontag21 women report domestic violence more... my mother was severely abusive... I mean I am a fag so this feminist guilt trip bullshit has nothing to do with me personally so I don't care...
I think nobody has a right to hit anyone else myself...
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The HER CENTRE is a charitable organisation working for life betterment of local women affected by domestic violence who reside in the London Borough of Greenwich. For more info contact us at Forum at Greenwich, Trafalgar Road, Greenwich, SE10 9EQ, Tel 0208 858 0748
charyuill 1 year ago
Everyone who watches this video is missing the point; domestic violence is bad either way, whether a man does it or a woman does it. It just so happens that woman are more prone to being victims of domestic violence. So thats why some men that reply to his video are angry; instead of being angry and criticizing this video, why don't you make your own video and make your voice be heard about domestic violence!
trevizo84 1 year ago
Hahahahaha.
Lamtitude 1 year ago
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Not so
What about the MORE prevalent domestic violence against men, BY women?
The leading predictor/determiner of DV injuries to women is women who attack first or repeatedly.
To ignore these undeniable facts is to not care at all about women's safety.
More mothers abuse and murder their children than fathers do @ 2:1 ratio
The CDC BIG study showed women being the sole partener abuser at over that rate - 71%
Search: Dr. Martin Fiebert domestic violence
KNOW THE TRUTH ON DV !
addvoc8 1 year ago
50% of domestic abuse is women abusing their partners.
Here in Canada, there are 449 shelters for abused women spread out across the 12 provences.
There is only 1 shelter in Canada for males who suffer from abuse.
And children grow up. Look at your little boy,and know that if he is ever caught in an abusive relationship,once he turns 18 there is no hope. They are alone,and not long ago were someone's child.
TruthinessDotCom 1 year ago 2
Did they miss the part where only 10% of homeless people actually ARE women?
Hzqi 1 year ago 2
I'm a woman, but just out of curiosity I searched for a youtube video on domestic violence against men. I couldn't find anything. Is it just me, or is there a problem?
NekoBlaze014 1 year ago
oh shit, one more motherfucking man hating whiner crying her cunt out
SuperViciousDog 1 year ago 2
"Men make up more of the homeless than women and children combined" ~ Dr. Warren Farrell
Do they blame women for this? Forced child support {& no visitation inforcement}, alimony and the spiral of debt into homelessness? 80%+ of the homeless in western countries are men... feminism would blame the males... is it then not women's advantaged state which causes an injustice for males in some areas? Is that REAL equality? Only for a radical
corbyworld5 2 years ago
another tax dollar funded feministic propaganda vid
TheXmillionx 2 years ago
Fuck DV victims. They wouldn't be homeless if they were self sufficient rather then dependent on men. Not to mention that the statistics in this video is complete horse shit.
hpufo 2 years ago
radavis is a bitch... go get me a beer slut
woodlawn77 2 years ago
Looks like it was made by middle schoolers.
bulletproofscales 2 years ago
This video is a big lie. This is just a bread and butter of feminists who always consider women as victim and men as perpetrator. The fact is that men and women both are equally victims of so called definition of domestic violence. However, women victims get all the sympathy and support from society and govt., there is no help available for male victims. On the other hand men are easy target of false domestic violence case. Thus, trust between two genders are widening and will lead to more DV.
usaandros 2 years ago 18
Please, stay informed, the women are attacked by men in many ocassions, is called "violence of gender". Every week 1 to 2 woman are murdered by her partner. In many cultures, the women are considered an object, an animal, this is equality? I don't think so...
AnnieCM 2 years ago
no its not equality, but who the fuck told you that you were a man's equal you stupid bitch??? where did you get that idea from??? hillarry clinton?
mariopapa3 2 years ago
Im a woman & the misandry makes me sick, too. Misogyny also sucks, but its painfully obvious in media & law that misandry is the bigger issue now with sexism. Fucking feminazis bastardized true Feminism. Women have little to bitch about anymore. If only I had unlimited comment space........
DragonTheArtist 2 years ago
""Thus, trust between two genders are widening and will lead to more DV. ""
Amen to that man.
pavewayIII 2 years ago
@usaandros completely false quadralegic transvetite get it worse
DarkKnightBob1o1 1 year ago
get a job
LouSaydus 2 years ago
I'm gonna have to disagree with you there cause it really is that easy.
Trying to protect children? You can get custody of your kids once he gets his ass in jail so no I don't see where you are coming from cause it seems like it is that easy in retrospect I mean I know it's hard, but it is a two step process
KKFireFox 2 years ago
Domestic Violence Music Video ..."if you allow him"........**Female Rapper**
........check it out
LEMOY121 2 years ago
Wake up, women are being murdered, threatened or beaten everyday, satistics prove it. By the men who are supposed to protect and provide for them. Honour and protect, Hmm
777hathor 2 years ago
maybe if these bitches werent so bitchy,defiant and disobedient then nobody would have to kill their stupid asses...think about it. EVERY ACTION HAS A REACTION!
mariopapa3 2 years ago
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RIGHT!! Women usually deserve it when they get their asses kicked. Its usually a case of disobedience, cheating or unladylike behavior which warrants a good ass kicking. The Holy Bible endorces corrective discipline for women, and so do I. My wife gets out of line, and I break her face, and she knows that! That's why our marriage will stand the test of time. Cause I wont let some sorry cunt ruin my life. I'd rather break her fucking face, and I've done it before!!
56Stiffy 2 years ago
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Domestic Violence, domestic violence is when ur girlfriend totals both your cars, steals ur money, and her other boyfriend to visits when ur away. Then when you say she has to leave, she callls the cops and has you arressted, then steals yourstuff when your in jail. No marks on her, as long as I'm alive boyfriends can beat the shit out of their girlfriends and I'll give them a medal!
anamericanstory 2 years ago
ummm you can call your boss and tell him whats going on and then get a divorce its that simple
ChrisBennett18 2 years ago
Lame shit.....
GhettoJedi26 2 years ago
No, they're not the only domestic violence victims, but they're the overwhelming majority. Domestic violence in itself is wrong, and that's what we are fighting against.
kirakirakirimi 2 years ago
Completely false - women are slightly in the majority.
Women are in fact more likely to initiate violence, more abusive to children and more likely to use weapons.
harrietharmman 2 years ago 12
According to the US Department of Justice in survey that spanned from 1998 to 2002, 84% of spouse abuse victims were females, and 86% of victims of dating partner abuse at were female. Males were 83% of spouse murderers and 75% of dating partner murderers
It may be true that most men do not report their domestic abuse. In that case, people should work for more awareness. Instead, people just complain about the fact that shelters for battered women don't talk about battered men.
ctkle 2 years ago
It's not the shelters people are worried about, but the man haters running them who have hijacked the issue of domestic violence for political purposes and don't care about the actual victims in the slightest.
Maybe once those associated with such shelters stop spreading their lies that men aren't victims of dv then maybe people will stop complaining about their hatred of men.
harrietharmman 2 years ago
Even if you have met men-haters working in a shelter, it would be a gross generalization to subject all shelters to this image. Many organization care for battered women without pronouncing a hatred for the male sex. If an institutions only researched lung cancer, it does not mean that it thinks that breast cancer is of no importance.
ctkle 2 years ago
Not a gross generalsiation - the shelters run by decent honest people are few and far between. To even become a member of most dv organisations you have to sign declaration agreeing with their extremist feminist mantra. Thus anyone in such organsiations wanting to tell the truth about the plight of male victims and female abusers will be in breach of the rules they agreed to and thus can be expelled.
harrietharmman 2 years ago
I can't really argue with this because you're stating a belief that is neither based on fact or, I'm assuming, personal experience. You have not personally met every worker in the United States who works in a shelter, so your statement can be easily dismissed as a gross generalization. Had you met over 10,000 workers maybe then. I'm not really sure where the paranoia comes from either. If you could state maybe your personal experience with this issue, I could understand your opinion better.
ctkle 2 years ago
So, I am left wondering why you find videos such as this one to be so offense. So, it is perhaps that only men are seen as abusers in these DM videos. Since the majority of victims are female (as statistics show) and that most abusers are male (as statistics show), it does make sense that most videos are so. I would support also DM videos featuring male victims (though even in this case the majority of abusers would still be committed by men.)
ctkle 2 years ago
Black people commit more crime than white people - would it be appropriate to have every single criminal on tv and in government sponsored PSAs as black?
I'd say that would be incredibly dishonest and harmful not to mention racist. Domestic violence is no different. And that majority you talk about is far, far smaller than you think.
harrietharmman 2 years ago
But the fact is according to statistics White people commit 32% of murders and black people 36% of murders. White people commit 58% of non-lethal crime in the US while black people commit 39%. White people commit 67% of property crime and black people commit 30% (that is a huge difference). These are all US department statistics. So, no black people do not commit the most crime, and even in the category that they do the crime rate is about the same for both black and white people.
ctkle 2 years ago
Ummm you seem to have forgotten to take account of the fact that there are far more white people in the states than blacks, thus the amount of crime per black person is huge.
If you can't even consider such incredibly basic points when discussing statistics then there is no point having an conversation with you.
harrietharmman 2 years ago
I had actually thought about the population discrepancy but only after posting. It was perhaps erroneous of me to give legitimacy even to your claim that "black people commit more crime" by arguing with it using race numbers when the fact is that race is less a correlation to crime than poverty. Looking through this lens, the issue of crime and the depiction of criminals has nothing to do with race but with poverty level.
ctkle 2 years ago
So yes, it would be wrong to only depict all criminals as black when you should be depicting most criminals as being poor whether they are black or white. As to your parallelism to why female shelters only depict female victims, well their mission is to help female victims, so hence their victims in their movies are female. Why would a female shelter show male victims?
ctkle 2 years ago
You can ask. Well why don't they take care of male victims as well? Well the majority of victims are female and the abuse is more apparent and numerous, so it would be more obvious for organizations to start by taking care of women. I'm not saying shelters shouldn't start taking care of men. I would advocate doing so. But many organizations start out focused on one issue only to realize that there are more facets to the problem. This, however, does not reflect man hating.
ctkle 2 years ago
It IS man hating. Would it be right to help one race ahead of another? No, so the same goes for gender.
You yourself admitted that 30% of victims could be men - that equates to many millions of people refused help and put at risk.
We've had dv shelters since the 1970s, the fact they won't help men is nothing to do with being too busy and overstreched. They simply won't help because the existence of male victims completely destroys all the arguments the gender feminist movement is based upon.
harrietharmman 2 years ago
The issue about this is more than just whether or not shelters refuse to help men. The fact is that the issue has only slowly come into awareness. You should see this as an oversight on their part not as a deliberate attempt to hate men because it borders on paranoia. if you feel so strongly about this issue, you should feel pulled to devote your time to help the cause not blaming other people for not doing it.
ctkle 2 years ago
Actually domestic violence pioneers recognised the plight and extent of male victims at almost exactly the same time as the first shelters for women were opened (i.e. 1971). Such people who recognised the number of male victims and twanted to help them were soon expelled from the movement so it IS a clear conspiracy rather than any oversight - i suggest you read up on your history.
harrietharmman 2 years ago
There are plenty of organizations that target certain demographics of people, but that doesn't make them exclusive just targeted.
For you to prove that DV shelters and the DV movement is man-hating, you would have to give evidence of direct hatred, which you haven't. You just listed theories.
ctkle 2 years ago
As for the Christine Summers comment, I wonder why she did not call those man-hating people anti-feminists instead of their own category of feminism. Yes, man haters can call themselves feminists, but we do not have to accept them as such. There is no reason to dirty the word "feminism" by allowing them to be part of the term, because man-hating in itself is based on inequality, which is not feminism. That is my opinion.
ctkle 2 years ago
Can I ask you one question?
How many feminists working for the DV movement or in shelters have you met? If your answer is such a large number, that it takes care of any statistical anomaly then I will agree with you that DV movement is only made up of man hating people (I say people not women because DV movement is run by both men and women).
ctkle 2 years ago
Actually men are in fact barred from becoming members of some dv organisations and not allowed to work in many shelters or sit on decision making boards. S, although there are plenty of self loathing gender feminist men out there, we can actually place most of the blame on women in this instance.
harrietharmman 2 years ago
While I'm not sure I buy your conspiracy theory (I don't know what women would gain by alienating half of the population) and there may be some good reasons as to why you would bar men from working in shelters (victims may be afraid of men due to their abuse), I did more research on statistics. One study stated that women were in fact more likely to be violent first in spousal conflict. This was the "FAMILY VIOLENCE. A report from: Family Resources & Research."
ctkle 2 years ago
The statistics were appalling if true. From what they report, women seem to be equal to men in large ranges of assault and sometimes slightly surpassing. Now, that I have conflicting statistics, it is hard to know what to believe.
ctkle 2 years ago
Well it doesn't matter what you decide to believe - the fact is there are loads of victims of both gender out there and we should be helping all of them equally. Quite frankly whether it is 50-50 or 60-40 or 40-60 .
Anyway I'm glad you read up on some statistics telling the other side of the story. As for conspiracies - read up on Erin Pizzey - the founder of the world's first domestic violence shelters and see how she was treated.
harrietharmman 2 years ago
My personal experience with people involved with women's issues have been nothing but positive. There was never any male bashing involved. For me, the majority of the problem is still lack of awareness. I certainly did not know any of these statistics, and I'm sure most people do not either. In any case, I found many organizations targeted towards male victims, so there is help out there for men. To me, this isn't man-hating but misconception problems.
ctkle 2 years ago
Yes bt the organsiaitons helping men get no government funding whatsoever, and on top of that it isn't a fashionable or well publisised charitable issue, thus they don't' get many donations either.
harrietharmman 2 years ago
I am going based on the majority that I know of based on statistics. Even given standard deviation, I doubt that the percentage of female victims will go below 70%. The fact is that the issue of DV is an important issue for many women. It is as important for male victims, but the lack of awareness does not equal hate. These shelters focus on helping women not bashing men. I don't understand the mental lap between the two.
ctkle 2 years ago
You also stated that women are more likely to "initiate violence." I have not read the study so can't comment, but would like to know the context in which the study was done.
You also said that women are more likely to abuse children, but children are most often left in the care of their mothers and not their fathers. Abusive households tend to be in unstable environments where the father might be missing. So even probability wise, this would make sense.
ctkle 2 years ago
Well these issues are somewhat separate from dv. However the point is that if the feminists didn't always demonise men and if we had the assumption of equal parenting in the seperation cases (something feminists campaign against very strongly) then the child would get to see both parents and such abuse could be stopped far sooner.
Feminists are quiick to highlight the crimes committed by men whilst at the same time ignoring aand sweeping under the carpet simiilar things done by women.
harrietharmman 2 years ago
If you're using feminist to men "women who hate men", then I think you're using the term incorrectly. Many feminists are happily married, have children, and lead unassuming lives. Again, I think this stems from a personal insult you felt at the hands of a woman who called herself a feminist. But personal experiences shouldn't be the basis of characterization of a whole group. You make many statements to which there is no factual basis. There must be more to your impressions such as facts.
ctkle 2 years ago
Feminism pretty much became a hate movement quite some time ago. I realsie the term used to be a noble one and the definition technically means someone who believes in equality, but very few women genuinely interesed in equality would actually call themselves a feminist today due to the way the term has been taken over by man haters, there is a clear need for people to clarify what sort of feminist they are.
harrietharmman 2 years ago
Chistine Hoff Summers came up with two terms too desribe the two distinct types of feminists - "equity feminists" and "gender feminists" ( the first being feminsits interested in equality, the second being the misandric man haters). I suppose I should have used the term "gender feminists" to make my point clearer, though what with the gender feminists being the the majority in the dv movement I don't think it was much of an omission.
harrietharmman 2 years ago
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ctkle 2 years ago
As for the third comment about the fact that women are more likely to use weapons, this does make sense. Women do not have the strength or muscle mass to beat up a man and must resort to weapons.
In any case, none of these statistics imply that women are only "slightly in the majority" as victims.
I apologize for writing so much. It is a bit difficult to voice your thoughts with character limits.
ctkle 2 years ago
@harrietharmman This is what I've study this past semester - no, women are not more likely to abuse children (it goes both ways for both genders), however women are more likely to use emotional/mental abuse as a source. Men are more than 3x as likely to be the aggressor with physical harm. I do agree that men are ignored when it comes to violence because again it goes both ways. But don't pull false statistics out of the air to turn what research knows right around.
kerst410 1 year ago
@kerst410 Then gb2college, and this time, get your facts straight
ThallesNinja 1 year ago
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kerst410 9 months ago
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kerst410 9 months ago
@ThallesNinja Thank fully, much of my time is spent in school. To make it sound more fair, women and men are equal in aggression. HOWEVER, men show more overt techniques (smacking, punching, hitting) and women show more covert techniques (snubbing, ruining peoples social lives and the alike). That right there my uneducated friend is fact. Maybe instead of denying factual information, you should take your own advice and spend a while learning a thing or two. It'll do a little good.
kerst410 9 months ago
@kerst410 It seems you're stuck on 19th/20th century. Would you like a free ticket to this century?
ThallesNinja 9 months ago
@ThallesNinja I appreciate the offer - very much infact, however you should likely take care of yourself first. If you had any real sense, you'd learn the facts and stop sticking to your own biased beliefs. I'd say what I stated is not only true but fair. Women and men are both equally violent, however they display aggression by using different methods. *Always* an exception to the averages, too.
kerst410 9 months ago
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StigmataBOB1 3 years ago
Scared to leave? Didn't want to leave to acquire victimhood status and have everybody feel sowwy for you. Homeless? have you tried getting a job? How do you fuck up your divorce so badly that you are homeless. I never see homeless women anyway. Most women stay at a friend or relative house. So what is this BS? You dropped out on welfare? You have nobody to blame but yourself. Actions have consequences.
icyhearted01 3 years ago
Your handle fits you just fine because your attitude toward these victims is disturbing! Some domestic abuse victims come from abusive families, so are you going to judge them as having only themselves to blame when they try to leave and have nobody who will take them in? No--actions have consequences, but it's the abusers' choice to use violence that caused the victims' situations! Stop making such a horrible judgment--you're either for the victims or you're for the abusers but not both!
radavis76 2 years ago
No one is for DV and if you think he is then you are sad, but the fact is it's the choice and it doesn't matter how they were raised what they do is still there fault so life may not be fare, but sometimes you have to learn to deal and get over it.
KKFireFox 2 years ago
To shaky. Use a tripod.
LordSethFilms 3 years ago
If domestic violence makes all these women homeless then imagine what it's like for men?
Women have shelters to go to whereas these sex feminist running them reufuse to admit male victims?
If it's so bad for the victism in the video imagine how much worse it would be if they were of the opposite sex?
harrietharmman 3 years ago 2
Not at all; domestic violence shelters are not only for women. Women are the primary focus in these campaigns simply because they are the overwhelming majority of domestic violence victims. It does not mean that women can't be abusive themselves, or that men can't be victims. Abuse is abuse is abuse, and abuse is terrible, regardless of whom it is targeted towards.
My father was abusive, but my friend's mother was abusive. It goes both ways, and it's equally as terrible on both sides.
kirakirakirimi 2 years ago
Its not that women get abused more, its that if a man gets abused society doesn't see that as a bad thing.
coolcreep 2 years ago
"He'd call me while I was there"
Solution? Turn off your fucking mobile.
SonicRocksBox2 3 years ago
Oh? What about when he calls on the LANDLINE? Or when he speaks directly to your boss, and, having a somewhat higher position than yourself, and convinces your boss that you are hopeless, rutheless, and the worst person to ever walk the earth? What happens when you're fired, but the entirely inaccurate rumors of your inadequecy have reached the ears of all employers in the state? What do you do then?
My mom's unemployed because of my dad. We have nothing, and we DID nothing wrong.
kirakirakirimi 2 years ago
So I have a perfectly adequate worker, but then her scorned ex barges into my office ranting about how horrible she is, and now I just magically want to fire a reliable employee? Ya right. Maybe your Mom actually is a bad employee, ever consider that?
coolcreep 2 years ago
Oh, yeah. She's a terrible employee. After nearly 20 years of teaching residents and having the most glowing reports from said residents, and after countless volounteer projects, she really is a bad employee.
My father just happens to be more ambitious than my mother; whereas she's simply a teacher, he is on several boards. Therefore, his word is law.
Besides, now that my mom is looking for work outside of the immediate area, she is being snatched up eagerly by countless emplyers.
kirakirakirimi 2 years ago
This is DV video is one-sided. It portrays the stereotype that men are the perpetrators and women are the victims. DV policies are biased against men. However, the undersigned authorities are petitioning the states to change the DV policies to include male victims and children in the DV programs.
TediusZanarukando 3 years ago
err, 39.7 percent. bahaha.
hallianna 3 years ago
1.7 percent of WOMAN????
hallianna 3 years ago
i think people do a better job when they work in fear... fewer mistakes
woodlawn77 3 years ago
No, people do NOT do a better jod when they work in fear! They suffer and end up doing worse and making more mistakes than when they do NOT work in fear! And do you know what happens next, you judgmental assclown? They eventually give up trying because they've been brainwashed into thinking that not even their best efforts will ever be good enough! Never become anybody's employer because it's obvious that you'd make an excruciatingly shitty one if you were!
radavis76 2 years ago
@radavis76 hey baby...i like the cut of your jib...your a broad with lots of spunk...would you like to come and work for me?..my names grabby mcfeelatitty...all you have to do is show up in a short short skirt and pick up paper all day
schwoogie78 1 year ago
Couldn't they get someone who could read off their script more smoothly? Why, if she was here, I'd....
*POW*
yeah, now read it better with a black eye
(just kidding)
jnoble12 3 years ago
this ad is so bad, its not even good
DannyDSHomebrew 4 years ago 5
Fuck you man!
simsguildwars 4 years ago